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He was always mentioned as being past, FTG mentioned or not. When C compares A to him, he doesn't specify FTG. We keep assumptions to a minimal, Minato was fast by himself without FTG. In Kakashi Gaiden, he also goes from where he is to Kakashi, when he saves him, very quickly. It wasn't with FTG, because FTG doesn't make smoke, which appeared when he saved Kakashi, meaning he got there fast like that without using FTG. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:06, April 13, 2010 (UTC)