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== Reply ==
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== Cumbersome articles ==
I never intended to add it. Its crap, its useless. I was just testing the code from my console and then when I moved Monobook.js ==> Common.js I tested that too and I guess I was beaten by Firebug's '''''feature''''' of not clearing the console window after running the code.--'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 13:17, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
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Tabs and drop downs? Do you mean like the [[Zetsu]] article? And can you please provide me some examples of "troublesome articles" as you mentioned? As for long articles: While I do understand that popular characters such as Naruto, Sasuke, and the like are demanded to have the most detail, [[Special:LongPages|pages such as these]] have rather slow loading times as compared to other articles. You are correct that unfortunately, users do feel the need to further stuff already long articles with pictures and such. --[[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 00:38, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
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:I'm optimistic that Kakashi and Sasuke can get under 100k. Which is still long, I guess, but a dramatic improvement. Sasuke's is currently 155K, yet about 45k of that is just the summary of events of chapters 580-700. ''Just the summary''. As in, not counting whatever Personality and Abilities also happens in that time frame. Hell, his second-to-last quote is about 1.5k on its own. You take a generous axe to these two things and Sasuke's article becomes about the same size as Sakura's currently is.
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:Naruto's is a problem, though. Always will be. But I disagree with tabs or whatever else on principle. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 01:00, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
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::Ah, I see. Even if the scrolling function were implemented, users could still edit it out, whether intentionally or unintentionally, just to place further additions to the long pages. An issue indeed. I do feel that edits like [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_Uzumaki?diff=999072&oldid=998645 this], while in good-faith, further add more to the problem. It may be a minor edit, but let us say a thousand more users do those "minor edits" and that's part of what makes articles so long. A solution for this may indeed be... difficult to find, whether it be tabs, scrolling, taking out pictures, etc. An attempt to shorten Naruto's article was to take out the anime only arcs altogether as well, though that has not been too effective over the long-term...
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::--[[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 01:04, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
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:::First things first the content needs to be compressed, if I had my way. Naruto vs Sasuke's last fight was 4 paragraphs, and goes on to detail just about every move the two of them did. The rest of the article is just as stupid and this is repeated on just about every character's articles. None of that is needed. If we can do that, and make sure that actually sticks however would be a great benefit.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 01:17, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
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::::I wholeheartedly agree. Naruto and Sasuke's second battle at the Valley of the End is the reason why I brought up this issue. For instance, in both of Naruto and Sasuke's articles, and I say this due to lack of better phraseology, they have been stuffed with every move they made in that fight and users are adding way too much stuff on top of that. Those "summaries" essentially cover every muscular movement Naruto and Sasuke seem to make towards each other. Also, users tend to have a fixation for the colored manga images and proceed to insert too many of them within articles describing Naruto and Sasuke's final fight. It is all quite unnecessary from my standpoint, and has to be shortened in some manner as a first step. Though, as SnapperTwo notified me on my talkpage, removing such images will only cause users to insert them back into the article. Another step taken was shortening introductions in various articles due to them having too much content to fulfill the purpose of them being simple summaries, though we have had to deal with users wanting to unnecessarily revise our contributions i.e., users adding more descriptions (and possibly spoiler content), links in the introductions, and so on. --[[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 01:38, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Question on idle talks ==
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Continuing this conversation, I have noticed that in Naruto and Sasuke's articles, summaries that potentially lead to anime-only arcs have been removed. For instance, [[Naruto_Uzumaki#Three-Tails.27_Appearance|this]] in Naruto's article and [[Sasuke_Uchiha#Past_Arc:_The_Locus_of_Konoha|this]] in Sasuke's (which is understandable). To further thin articles like these (such as Kakashi's, Sakura's, etc), would it not be valid to remove any paragraphs that sequentially start out with "In the anime, this happened" and attempt to leave links to them (if possible) to keep the consistency and further thin these articles? -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 16:46, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
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:^Never mind that, TheUltimateThree. We will find other ways to shorten long pages. -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 00:12, January 17, 2015 (UTC)
   
Yeah, thanks for that message, even if it was just an automated one.
 
   
I actually do have a question.
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== Well then... ==
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Those big bold letters on your user pages has me like... ಠ_ಠ Gotten quite tired of chat, have you not? And is there a User Banhammer template, or you just created that red link to annoy you-know-who? -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 21:32, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
   
How long does a 'talk correspondence' need to be idle for it ti be considered dead?
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== Star Wars ==
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Hey, I saw you like Star Wars' version of canon, and I gotta ask you - what do you think about what happened to the EU on April 25, 2014? Do you hate it or like it (please say you hate it)? [[User:Gemnist|Gemnist]] ([[User talk:Gemnist|talk]]) 00:26, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Gemnist
   
Thanks a whole bunch. I'm new--[[User:SummerBlossom|SummerBlossom]] ([[User talk:SummerBlossom|talk]]) 17:29, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
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:THANK YOU!!! My optimistic guess is though: this is just a scam meant to avoid any plot details on the sequel trilogy, and soon everything that happened pre-Episode VI will be considered - by 2019 - and then the "Legends" covers will become collectible-level. All in a day's work to maintain a brand name. I was really hoping, though, that they're all one single universe. [[User:Gemnist|Gemnist]] ([[User talk:Gemnist|talk]]) 04:26, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Gemnist
   
== Sandbox2 ==
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::Not sure if I explained myself well. I meant everything BEFORE Return of the Jedi, not after. After, we'll have to wait and see - unfortunately. [[User:Gemnist|Gemnist]] ([[User talk:Gemnist|talk]]) 16:39, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Gemnist
Your opinion on [[Narutopedia:Sandbox2|this]] would be much appreciated! You can leave your opinion [[Narutopedia talk:Sandbox2|here]]. {{User:Teppei Kiyoshi/Sig1}} 12:26, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== red chakra ==
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== Scuffle: SuperSajuuk ==
Yes, anime doesn't count. 2 out of 9 isn't much evidence.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:16, June 20, 2013 (UTC)
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Not to be rude, but I don't think you've really read it in context. And no, as a forum operator, it is my duty to moderate the forums, I am not going to just ignore Seelentau or I will be accused of "not doing my job". If he wants me to stop getting on my case, he does not need to resort to flames and abusive behaviour. If you hadn't noticed, I have not flamed him, swore at him, nor even used "Ad Hominem" towards him, yet somehow I'm in the wrong for being friendly and polite?
   
== Translation ==
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I would advise you contact other sysops and ask them to assess the situation, it feels incredibly biased in favour of letting Tau use his sysop flag as a way to get whatever he wants or be abusive to users for no reason. So Tau saying things like "I'm a failure of a moderator" and "I'm bitter for him being sysop" is not trolling behaviour? Good to know, I'll just be forwarding all of this to Wikia Staff as it seems like it's painfully obvious Dantman is too busy to care or notice his sysops going around contravening TOU: unlike what you claim, the TOU gets to override the wiki's local policies at any time, so they'll be agreeing with me as well on this matter. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 14:33, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
Hey, would you be able to translate this: [[User:Teppei_Kiyoshi/Sandbox#Shinobi_Retsuden_3]]..? {{User:Teppei Kiyoshi/Sig1}} 12:46, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: Not my intention T_T ==
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:I have spoken to users on Central Wiki, including VSTF, who agree fully with me that Tau's behaviour is abusive. Telling Tau he can continue this not only damages the wiki's reputation, but is 100% contravening Wikia TOU, which you seem to not care for. Do you want to lose your rights as well for '''encouraging inappropriate and abusive behaviour'''? Your messages to me and Tau are being included in evidence which I am sending to Wikia for their involvement in this situation, as it seems you cannot keep yourself from encouraging everyone else to be as crass and as abusive as they want to me. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:20, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
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::The email hasn't been sent yet, I'm working on gathering evidence. I'll be including evidence of other sysops encouraging the behaviour in said email, so your message to Tau will be included. Even when I send it, I won't be making any screen captures of private conversations with Wikia Staff to the public. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:27, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
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:::And no, you won't start removing my posts either. So you can desist that behaviour as well. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:30, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
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::::You do not need to blank the replies. You can copy/paste from the source to a Notepad document and leave the replies as they should be. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:33, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::He did not break forum policy in any way. Saying just "owned" is not making a swipe at anyone, but writing messages like Seelentau did is making a clear swipe at someone and is a personal attack. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:42, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
   
I know the idea was born from a good place. I don't know if I'm just overreacting As usual but I have this overwhelming feeling that this is going to start another bad fad. One of the reasons why I was so against this is because I knew people would abuse it like this. This is why I prefer the times when we were expressly told that we weren't a democracy.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:29, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
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== Scuffle: Seelentau ==
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Sorry if all this means any extra work for you. Wasn't my intention. But no, I'm not gonna change my ways. SuperSajuuk is a danger to this wiki and should be dealt with accordingly. It's simply not right that a normal user has all rights a sysop has, even though he was deemed unfit to be a sysop. I don't care about my own rank, as I said, but since you have way more experience in this, you should talk to Dantman. I tried and he didn't respond, so yeah. Please do something. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:11, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
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:I doubt that he'll ever change his behaviour as long as he isn't a sysop himself. And only the devil knows what he'll do then. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:20, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
   
Since Obamacare.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:39, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
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== six paths sage mode ==
   
== Image Deletion ==
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hey mate...a user named kuroiraikou keeps changine the six paths sage mode article...& the small one in the six paths sage tech...wanted to talk him out of doing it but then thought U can be more effective... --'''[[User:DARK ZER06 |DARK ZERO]]'''--''[[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]'' 09:58, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
Need help, could you please delete the last image i uploaded? if you can. File name: Chen Taijutsu Mater.PNG. I made a mistake in the file's name, after the image deletion i will upload the image with its name corrected :). [[User:Dan.Faulkner|Dan.Faulkner]] ([[User talk:Dan.Faulkner|talk]]) 15:09, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: Mods Group ==
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== re: moval ==
Hey, just wondering what your opinion is on [[Forum:Moderators Group|this forum topic]] proposal. I'm aware you already posted there, but wanted to see what your opinion is of the idea in general. :) --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:18, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
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Meh. I do not really feel the need to ask and wait, wait, wait for it to work. I will just be doing it manually in the meantime until I eventually get tired, and probably then I will ask for a bot.<br>-- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 23:34, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
   
:The reasoning for this being proposed was because there was a time yesterday in which no sysop was online and there was continual edit / revert warring occuring that could not be dealt with (it was dealt with by Omnibender, 2 hours later), so having a small group of users who can quickly protect a page until a sysop comes online to stop the warring would make it easier to get the point across that the user should use the talkpage. I will wait until you have read the whole discussion to make the full opinion though :) --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:39, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
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== RE: Character Pages ==
   
== OmegaRasengan is being rude ==
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Oh ok I understand it makes since now. Thanks for the help. [[User:AllstarUchiha|AllstarUchiha]] ([[User talk:AllstarUchiha|talk]]) 01:11, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
I created a page of what is a new technique in the latest chapter, and he practically began yelling at me and wishing me to be banned.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 18:35, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
 
: This is all I am saying, I am not wishing you were banned, I stated I am surprised that your speculative article creations hasn't resulted a ban. What you are doing is speculating on something we do not know about yet. That is all. --[[User:OmegaRasengan|OmegaRasengan]] ([[User talk:OmegaRasengan|talk]]) 18:39, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== I need help, please ==
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== tailed beast genders ==
   
I was trying to do some minor edits on the new technique that Obito [[Ten-Tails Chakra Weapons|recently used]], and they were reverted twice by two different users. I didn't made any intentional vandalism at all and all I did was adding a comma to the Third Hokage's name and removed the space to the end of the sentence with the first reference. Not only that, I even changed offense and defense to that of the British English's offence and defence. I don't know what to do without being blocked or have my edit reverted the third time. I need help, please. All I can do is wait. <span style="border-left:1px solid red; border-top:1px solid red; border-right:1px solid red; border-bottom:1px solid red;">[[User:Dekoshu|Dekoshu]] [[User talk:Dekoshu|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Dekoshu|contrib]]</span> 02:07, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
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Question: why did you remove them?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 23:00, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:It didn't say they don't, either. This was discussed on the talkpage. Gyuki is a bull for example and bulls are male.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 23:39, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
 
It can be seen in [[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Ten-Tails_Chakra_Weapons?action=history]]. <span style="border-left:1px solid red; border-top:1px solid red; border-right:1px solid red; border-bottom:1px solid red;">[[User:Dekoshu|Dekoshu]] [[User talk:Dekoshu|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Dekoshu|contrib]]</span> 02:12, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
I am very sorry. I meant that you can look at the history to see what happened to my edits. I was trying to give you a link to the past and recent edits and the link didn't take me to the right location. <span style="border-left:1px solid red; border-top:1px solid red; border-right:1px solid red; border-bottom:1px solid red;">[[User:Dekoshu|Dekoshu]] [[User talk:Dekoshu|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Dekoshu|contrib]]</span> 02:12, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
I fixed the link now. <span style="border-left:1px solid red; border-top:1px solid red; border-right:1px solid red; border-bottom:1px solid red;">[[User:Dekoshu|Dekoshu]] [[User talk:Dekoshu|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Dekoshu|contrib]]</span> 02:13, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Thank you for understanding. But still, I wasn't adding any swear words, I didn't add any speculations, and I didn't even remove the whole text from the article. All I did was in honesty, was removing the unnecessary space between what the Third Hokage said and the reference of when he said it, and changed those the wording of offense and defense to match that of British English in that article, as well as according to what Hiruzen Sarutobi said by adding a comma. <span style="border-left:1px solid red; border-top:1px solid red; border-right:1px solid red; border-bottom:1px solid red;">[[User:Dekoshu|Dekoshu]] [[User talk:Dekoshu|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Dekoshu|contrib]]</span> 02:23, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
I literally don't get what's going on, TheUltimate3. When I did a minor edit without any real signs of vandalism, this happened [[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Ten-Tails_Chakra_Weapons?diff=806550&oldid=806548]], yet when somebody else did it later, there was no reverting the words offence and defence to offense and defense at all. And when I made the next minor edit, this happened again [[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Ten-Tails_Chakra_Weapons?diff=806717&oldid=806713]], and I wasn't even adding any false information. Seelentau and Ten Tailed Fox are responsible for this. I was intent on improving the article, not trying to vandalize it, destroy it or adding speculations on it. <span style="border-left:1px solid red; border-top:1px solid red; border-right:1px solid red; border-bottom:1px solid red;">[[User:Dekoshu|Dekoshu]] [[User talk:Dekoshu|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Dekoshu|contrib]]</span> 02:41, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
 
Okay. I fully understand now. I am calming down now. Thank you very much. I am just not too sure now if I can edit articles again without another one of those reverts. <span style="border-left:1px solid red; border-top:1px solid red; border-right:1px solid red; border-bottom:1px solid red;">[[User:Dekoshu|Dekoshu]] [[User talk:Dekoshu|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Dekoshu|contrib]]</span> 02:44, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Okay. But would adding a summary would really help the other same users to prove I am simply fixing something?? <span style="border-left:1px solid red; border-top:1px solid red; border-right:1px solid red; border-bottom:1px solid red;">[[User:Dekoshu|Dekoshu]] [[User talk:Dekoshu|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Dekoshu|contrib]]</span> 02:47, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Am I required to add a summary to my edit every time? I shouldn't take it personally in the first place, anyways. Reverts are bound to happen, anyway. I am trying to avoid being blocked in anyway possible. But I am still bound to make mistakes like everybody else. <span style="border-left:1px solid red; border-top:1px solid red; border-right:1px solid red; border-bottom:1px solid red;">[[User:Dekoshu|Dekoshu]] [[User talk:Dekoshu|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Dekoshu|contrib]]</span> 02:56, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Thank you very much for the advice. It was really helpful. Not only that, you also helped me with not having to be completely ashamed of my edits and take it too personally. <span style="border-left:1px solid red; border-top:1px solid red; border-right:1px solid red; border-bottom:1px solid red;">[[User:Dekoshu|Dekoshu]] [[User talk:Dekoshu|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Dekoshu|contrib]]</span> 03:01, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
It's just that if I try to justify something regarding my actions, people could easily conceive it as a guilty conscience or assume or speculate as something else. If I try to do anything less than what is accepted, I would be told to not take it personally, calm down, not worry about it, or something else and be criticized for almost anything I have done. It's like I have to pick and use the best approach every single time in any Wiki for the first time so I get or receive none of that or at least minimize it or at best even prevent that from ever happening once or again. I cannot change the past so easily and I can only affect the present and the future. There is only so much I can take as a single person. <span style="border-left:1px solid red; border-top:1px solid red; border-right:1px solid red; border-bottom:1px solid red;">[[User:Dekoshu|Dekoshu]] [[User talk:Dekoshu|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Dekoshu|contrib]]</span> 04:57, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Skype ==
 
Hey, wanted to ask if you've got Skype. If not, it isn't a major issue. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 14:07, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Chapter 643 scan ==
 
Hey Ultimate3, I found a Chinese scan of the next chapter. But I doubt if it's real or not. check it please [[User:Shakhmoot|<choose><option>http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png</option></choose>]][[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sup>(Contact)</sup>]] 12:03, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
:I'm the one who has to apologize, sorry if that bothers you and I won't do it again. [[User:Shakhmoot|<choose><option>http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png</option></choose>]][[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sup>(Contact)</sup>]] 15:12, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Wood Release ==
 
 
Can you please weigh in [[Talk:Wood Release: Flowering Tree|here]]? I know the discussion is long, but skim through it if you can; there are some important points. At this point, we just need some other opinions as the same users keep tossing it back and forth and, so far, everyone has their own opinions of what's going on. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 01:15, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
: We might want to wait on some of these issues. Mangastream released a statement and said that these early chapter translations are highly unreliable, because they were leaked from a Chinese company who, like Viz, gets the chapters early, and then the scanalators made a hasty, Chinese to Japanese to English translation. Mangastream itself is waiting until tomorrow to release the chapters. It might be wise to wait for the RAWs, or, at the very least, a better translation, to clear the mess up. What say you? ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 12:07, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== ...I put Hashirama... ==
 
 
...was as fast as Tobirama ''without'' the Thunder God Technique. Not that he was faster. He was only faster than the Tailed Beast Ball, which I noted.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 19:33, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: 327/328 ==
 
Unless I'm mistaken, this isn't the first instance of where two episodes in a row referred to the same character and in both, the image used in the infobox was just the one from the previous episode. I could be wrong, but I vaguely remember such a thing happening before. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 13:19, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Cumbersome articles Edit

Tabs and drop downs? Do you mean like the Zetsu article? And can you please provide me some examples of "troublesome articles" as you mentioned? As for long articles: While I do understand that popular characters such as Naruto, Sasuke, and the like are demanded to have the most detail, pages such as these have rather slow loading times as compared to other articles. You are correct that unfortunately, users do feel the need to further stuff already long articles with pictures and such. --WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 00:38, January 13, 2015 (UTC)

I'm optimistic that Kakashi and Sasuke can get under 100k. Which is still long, I guess, but a dramatic improvement. Sasuke's is currently 155K, yet about 45k of that is just the summary of events of chapters 580-700. Just the summary. As in, not counting whatever Personality and Abilities also happens in that time frame. Hell, his second-to-last quote is about 1.5k on its own. You take a generous axe to these two things and Sasuke's article becomes about the same size as Sakura's currently is.
Naruto's is a problem, though. Always will be. But I disagree with tabs or whatever else on principle. ~SnapperTo 01:00, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Even if the scrolling function were implemented, users could still edit it out, whether intentionally or unintentionally, just to place further additions to the long pages. An issue indeed. I do feel that edits like this, while in good-faith, further add more to the problem. It may be a minor edit, but let us say a thousand more users do those "minor edits" and that's part of what makes articles so long. A solution for this may indeed be... difficult to find, whether it be tabs, scrolling, taking out pictures, etc. An attempt to shorten Naruto's article was to take out the anime only arcs altogether as well, though that has not been too effective over the long-term...
--WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 01:04, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
First things first the content needs to be compressed, if I had my way. Naruto vs Sasuke's last fight was 4 paragraphs, and goes on to detail just about every move the two of them did. The rest of the article is just as stupid and this is repeated on just about every character's articles. None of that is needed. If we can do that, and make sure that actually sticks however would be a great benefit.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 01:17, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
I wholeheartedly agree. Naruto and Sasuke's second battle at the Valley of the End is the reason why I brought up this issue. For instance, in both of Naruto and Sasuke's articles, and I say this due to lack of better phraseology, they have been stuffed with every move they made in that fight and users are adding way too much stuff on top of that. Those "summaries" essentially cover every muscular movement Naruto and Sasuke seem to make towards each other. Also, users tend to have a fixation for the colored manga images and proceed to insert too many of them within articles describing Naruto and Sasuke's final fight. It is all quite unnecessary from my standpoint, and has to be shortened in some manner as a first step. Though, as SnapperTwo notified me on my talkpage, removing such images will only cause users to insert them back into the article. Another step taken was shortening introductions in various articles due to them having too much content to fulfill the purpose of them being simple summaries, though we have had to deal with users wanting to unnecessarily revise our contributions i.e., users adding more descriptions (and possibly spoiler content), links in the introductions, and so on. --WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 01:38, January 13, 2015 (UTC)

Continuing this conversation, I have noticed that in Naruto and Sasuke's articles, summaries that potentially lead to anime-only arcs have been removed. For instance, this in Naruto's article and this in Sasuke's (which is understandable). To further thin articles like these (such as Kakashi's, Sakura's, etc), would it not be valid to remove any paragraphs that sequentially start out with "In the anime, this happened" and attempt to leave links to them (if possible) to keep the consistency and further thin these articles? -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 16:46, January 16, 2015 (UTC)

^Never mind that, TheUltimateThree. We will find other ways to shorten long pages. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 00:12, January 17, 2015 (UTC)


Well then... Edit

Those big bold letters on your user pages has me like... ಠ_ಠ Gotten quite tired of chat, have you not? And is there a User Banhammer template, or you just created that red link to annoy you-know-who? -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 21:32, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

Star Wars Edit

Hey, I saw you like Star Wars' version of canon, and I gotta ask you - what do you think about what happened to the EU on April 25, 2014? Do you hate it or like it (please say you hate it)? Gemnist (talk) 00:26, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Gemnist

THANK YOU!!! My optimistic guess is though: this is just a scam meant to avoid any plot details on the sequel trilogy, and soon everything that happened pre-Episode VI will be considered - by 2019 - and then the "Legends" covers will become collectible-level. All in a day's work to maintain a brand name. I was really hoping, though, that they're all one single universe. Gemnist (talk) 04:26, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Gemnist
Not sure if I explained myself well. I meant everything BEFORE Return of the Jedi, not after. After, we'll have to wait and see - unfortunately. Gemnist (talk) 16:39, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Gemnist

Scuffle: SuperSajuuk Edit

Not to be rude, but I don't think you've really read it in context. And no, as a forum operator, it is my duty to moderate the forums, I am not going to just ignore Seelentau or I will be accused of "not doing my job". If he wants me to stop getting on my case, he does not need to resort to flames and abusive behaviour. If you hadn't noticed, I have not flamed him, swore at him, nor even used "Ad Hominem" towards him, yet somehow I'm in the wrong for being friendly and polite?

I would advise you contact other sysops and ask them to assess the situation, it feels incredibly biased in favour of letting Tau use his sysop flag as a way to get whatever he wants or be abusive to users for no reason. So Tau saying things like "I'm a failure of a moderator" and "I'm bitter for him being sysop" is not trolling behaviour? Good to know, I'll just be forwarding all of this to Wikia Staff as it seems like it's painfully obvious Dantman is too busy to care or notice his sysops going around contravening TOU: unlike what you claim, the TOU gets to override the wiki's local policies at any time, so they'll be agreeing with me as well on this matter. --Sajuuk [Moderator] talk | contribs | Channel 14:33, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

I have spoken to users on Central Wiki, including VSTF, who agree fully with me that Tau's behaviour is abusive. Telling Tau he can continue this not only damages the wiki's reputation, but is 100% contravening Wikia TOU, which you seem to not care for. Do you want to lose your rights as well for encouraging inappropriate and abusive behaviour? Your messages to me and Tau are being included in evidence which I am sending to Wikia for their involvement in this situation, as it seems you cannot keep yourself from encouraging everyone else to be as crass and as abusive as they want to me. --Sajuuk [Moderator] talk | contribs | Channel 15:20, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
The email hasn't been sent yet, I'm working on gathering evidence. I'll be including evidence of other sysops encouraging the behaviour in said email, so your message to Tau will be included. Even when I send it, I won't be making any screen captures of private conversations with Wikia Staff to the public. --Sajuuk [Moderator] talk | contribs | Channel 15:27, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
And no, you won't start removing my posts either. So you can desist that behaviour as well. --Sajuuk [Moderator] talk | contribs | Channel 15:30, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
You do not need to blank the replies. You can copy/paste from the source to a Notepad document and leave the replies as they should be. --Sajuuk [Moderator] talk | contribs | Channel 15:33, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
He did not break forum policy in any way. Saying just "owned" is not making a swipe at anyone, but writing messages like Seelentau did is making a clear swipe at someone and is a personal attack. --Sajuuk [Moderator] talk | contribs | Channel 15:42, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

Scuffle: Seelentau Edit

Sorry if all this means any extra work for you. Wasn't my intention. But no, I'm not gonna change my ways. SuperSajuuk is a danger to this wiki and should be dealt with accordingly. It's simply not right that a normal user has all rights a sysop has, even though he was deemed unfit to be a sysop. I don't care about my own rank, as I said, but since you have way more experience in this, you should talk to Dantman. I tried and he didn't respond, so yeah. Please do something. • Seelentau 愛 17:11, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

I doubt that he'll ever change his behaviour as long as he isn't a sysop himself. And only the devil knows what he'll do then. • Seelentau 愛 17:20, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

six paths sage mode Edit

hey mate...a user named kuroiraikou keeps changine the six paths sage mode article...& the small one in the six paths sage tech...wanted to talk him out of doing it but then thought U can be more effective... --DARK ZERO--talk 09:58, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

re: moval Edit

Meh. I do not really feel the need to ask and wait, wait, wait for it to work. I will just be doing it manually in the meantime until I eventually get tired, and probably then I will ask for a bot.
-- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 23:34, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Character Pages Edit

Oh ok I understand it makes since now. Thanks for the help. AllstarUchiha (talk) 01:11, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

tailed beast genders Edit

Question: why did you remove them?--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 23:00, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

It didn't say they don't, either. This was discussed on the talkpage. Gyuki is a bull for example and bulls are male.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 23:39, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

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