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== Is this allowed ? ==
 
   
[[:File:Dead Ame Orphans.png|Is it allowed to do this ?]] --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 21:13, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
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== Cumbersome articles ==
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Tabs and drop downs? Do you mean like the [[Zetsu]] article? And can you please provide me some examples of "troublesome articles" as you mentioned? As for long articles: While I do understand that popular characters such as Naruto, Sasuke, and the like are demanded to have the most detail, [[Special:LongPages|pages such as these]] have rather slow loading times as compared to other articles. You are correct that unfortunately, users do feel the need to further stuff already long articles with pictures and such. --[[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 00:38, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
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:I'm optimistic that Kakashi and Sasuke can get under 100k. Which is still long, I guess, but a dramatic improvement. Sasuke's is currently 155K, yet about 45k of that is just the summary of events of chapters 580-700. ''Just the summary''. As in, not counting whatever Personality and Abilities also happens in that time frame. Hell, his second-to-last quote is about 1.5k on its own. You take a generous axe to these two things and Sasuke's article becomes about the same size as Sakura's currently is.
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:Naruto's is a problem, though. Always will be. But I disagree with tabs or whatever else on principle. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 01:00, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
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::Ah, I see. Even if the scrolling function were implemented, users could still edit it out, whether intentionally or unintentionally, just to place further additions to the long pages. An issue indeed. I do feel that edits like [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_Uzumaki?diff=999072&oldid=998645 this], while in good-faith, further add more to the problem. It may be a minor edit, but let us say a thousand more users do those "minor edits" and that's part of what makes articles so long. A solution for this may indeed be... difficult to find, whether it be tabs, scrolling, taking out pictures, etc. An attempt to shorten Naruto's article was to take out the anime only arcs altogether as well, though that has not been too effective over the long-term...
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::--[[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 01:04, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
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:::First things first the content needs to be compressed, if I had my way. Naruto vs Sasuke's last fight was 4 paragraphs, and goes on to detail just about every move the two of them did. The rest of the article is just as stupid and this is repeated on just about every character's articles. None of that is needed. If we can do that, and make sure that actually sticks however would be a great benefit.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 01:17, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
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::::I wholeheartedly agree. Naruto and Sasuke's second battle at the Valley of the End is the reason why I brought up this issue. For instance, in both of Naruto and Sasuke's articles, and I say this due to lack of better phraseology, they have been stuffed with every move they made in that fight and users are adding way too much stuff on top of that. Those "summaries" essentially cover every muscular movement Naruto and Sasuke seem to make towards each other. Also, users tend to have a fixation for the colored manga images and proceed to insert too many of them within articles describing Naruto and Sasuke's final fight. It is all quite unnecessary from my standpoint, and has to be shortened in some manner as a first step. Though, as SnapperTwo notified me on my talkpage, removing such images will only cause users to insert them back into the article. Another step taken was shortening introductions in various articles due to them having too much content to fulfill the purpose of them being simple summaries, though we have had to deal with users wanting to unnecessarily revise our contributions i.e., users adding more descriptions (and possibly spoiler content), links in the introductions, and so on. --[[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 01:38, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
   
:That's what I thought and my belief is that it'd count as being fanart, but I wasn't really asking you to do anything about it, just wanted to know if it was allowed or not. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 09:24, May 13, 2012 (UTC)
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Continuing this conversation, I have noticed that in Naruto and Sasuke's articles, summaries that potentially lead to anime-only arcs have been removed. For instance, [[Naruto_Uzumaki#Three-Tails.27_Appearance|this]] in Naruto's article and [[Sasuke_Uchiha#Past_Arc:_The_Locus_of_Konoha|this]] in Sasuke's (which is understandable). To further thin articles like these (such as Kakashi's, Sakura's, etc), would it not be valid to remove any paragraphs that sequentially start out with "In the anime, this happened" and attempt to leave links to them (if possible) to keep the consistency and further thin these articles? -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 16:46, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
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:^Never mind that, TheUltimateThree. We will find other ways to shorten long pages. -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 00:12, January 17, 2015 (UTC)
   
== [[Narutopedia talk:Image policy#Administrative Delcaration]] ==
 
   
If that's the case, then [[User_talk:EzioLover]] should be suspended for updating images. If he does not get suspended, clearly you only made that declaration to stop me uploading. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 19:05, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
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== Well then... ==
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Those big bold letters on your user pages has me like... ಠ_ಠ Gotten quite tired of chat, have you not? And is there a User Banhammer template, or you just created that red link to annoy you-know-who? -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 21:32, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
   
you mean i cant upload any images?? but i didnt know about this declaration so please forgive me i just downloaded the blu-ray version and i wanted to update thats all...and for how much time?? --[[User:EzioLover|EzioLover]] ([[User talk:EzioLover|talk]]) 19:18, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
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== Star Wars ==
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Hey, I saw you like Star Wars' version of canon, and I gotta ask you - what do you think about what happened to the EU on April 25, 2014? Do you hate it or like it (please say you hate it)? [[User:Gemnist|Gemnist]] ([[User talk:Gemnist|talk]]) 00:26, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Gemnist
   
I'm a bit slow to understand so I have a few questions. Bear with me por favor.
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:THANK YOU!!! My optimistic guess is though: this is just a scam meant to avoid any plot details on the sequel trilogy, and soon everything that happened pre-Episode VI will be considered - by 2019 - and then the "Legends" covers will become collectible-level. All in a day's work to maintain a brand name. I was really hoping, though, that they're all one single universe. [[User:Gemnist|Gemnist]] ([[User talk:Gemnist|talk]]) 04:26, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Gemnist
* does that mean no [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Infiltration_and_Reconnaissance_Party?diff=prev&oldid=640995 this-ing]?
 
* Do you also mean no [[:File:Ten Puppet Collection of Chikamatsu.jpg|doing this]] or do you mean uploading entirely different files and replacing the images currently in the articles or both?--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:23, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
* Suppose in the switching out of manga images when the anime airs (that's still allowed right o.O). And an image is uploaded: [[:File:Black Secret Technique Machine Triple Shot.png|bem]] but someone else finds an even better version: [[:File:Kurohigi Kiki Sanpatsu.png|bam]] not in terms of quality or fodder like that but in terms of showing the "entirety" of the technique/scene from the manga version... Is that mk? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:45, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
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::Not sure if I explained myself well. I meant everything BEFORE Return of the Jedi, not after. After, we'll have to wait and see - unfortunately. [[User:Gemnist|Gemnist]] ([[User talk:Gemnist|talk]]) 16:39, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Gemnist
   
[[Tailed Beast Rasengan|While I see the reasoning for your edit here]], the problem is, that's like the only good shot that exists in the episode. Chances are, we won't see it again. :( --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 12:10, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
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== Scuffle: SuperSajuuk ==
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Not to be rude, but I don't think you've really read it in context. And no, as a forum operator, it is my duty to moderate the forums, I am not going to just ignore Seelentau or I will be accused of "not doing my job". If he wants me to stop getting on my case, he does not need to resort to flames and abusive behaviour. If you hadn't noticed, I have not flamed him, swore at him, nor even used "Ad Hominem" towards him, yet somehow I'm in the wrong for being friendly and polite?
   
:If it comes up again, will I be able to change it ? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 12:12, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
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I would advise you contact other sysops and ask them to assess the situation, it feels incredibly biased in favour of letting Tau use his sysop flag as a way to get whatever he wants or be abusive to users for no reason. So Tau saying things like "I'm a failure of a moderator" and "I'm bitter for him being sysop" is not trolling behaviour? Good to know, I'll just be forwarding all of this to Wikia Staff as it seems like it's painfully obvious Dantman is too busy to care or notice his sysops going around contravening TOU: unlike what you claim, the TOU gets to override the wiki's local policies at any time, so they'll be agreeing with me as well on this matter. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 14:33, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
   
::Let me apologise for the failure of the Biju Rasengan image. -.- I've added in a comment tag above the Fair Use Rationale to remind me to update that image when a shot appears that's similar to the manga image that also has Naruto in it. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 12:24, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
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:I have spoken to users on Central Wiki, including VSTF, who agree fully with me that Tau's behaviour is abusive. Telling Tau he can continue this not only damages the wiki's reputation, but is 100% contravening Wikia TOU, which you seem to not care for. Do you want to lose your rights as well for '''encouraging inappropriate and abusive behaviour'''? Your messages to me and Tau are being included in evidence which I am sending to Wikia for their involvement in this situation, as it seems you cannot keep yourself from encouraging everyone else to be as crass and as abusive as they want to me. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:20, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
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::The email hasn't been sent yet, I'm working on gathering evidence. I'll be including evidence of other sysops encouraging the behaviour in said email, so your message to Tau will be included. Even when I send it, I won't be making any screen captures of private conversations with Wikia Staff to the public. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:27, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
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:::And no, you won't start removing my posts either. So you can desist that behaviour as well. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:30, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
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::::You do not need to blank the replies. You can copy/paste from the source to a Notepad document and leave the replies as they should be. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:33, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::He did not break forum policy in any way. Saying just "owned" is not making a swipe at anyone, but writing messages like Seelentau did is making a clear swipe at someone and is a personal attack. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:42, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Offer of Assistance ==
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== Scuffle: Seelentau ==
You know, I was just thinking about this, and I thought I'd extend my hand in this offer. I know I have an edit count of just under 200, but you know my record from around Wikia as a whole. Perhaps I could lend your administration a hand on the Image issue? You know, categorization, making sure all the proper tags are on them and whatnot, and deletion of duplicates or images that violate policy. What do you think? Besides, the only reason I'm not too active over here is because I can never seem to find something to get involved with. Those sticks over there on Bleach Wiki seem to have a hernia whenever anyone other than themselves make an edit, so I haven't really found a home on one of the canon wikis yet. Maybe that can change. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 23:16, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
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Sorry if all this means any extra work for you. Wasn't my intention. But no, I'm not gonna change my ways. SuperSajuuk is a danger to this wiki and should be dealt with accordingly. It's simply not right that a normal user has all rights a sysop has, even though he was deemed unfit to be a sysop. I don't care about my own rank, as I said, but since you have way more experience in this, you should talk to Dantman. I tried and he didn't respond, so yeah. Please do something. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau ]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:11, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
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:I doubt that he'll ever change his behaviour as long as he isn't a sysop himself. And only the devil knows what he'll do then. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:20, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Adoption discussion==
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== six paths sage mode ==
As someone involved in the [[Forum:Administrative_Declaration]] dispute, I thought you would be interested in [[w:forum:AR:Adoption request for Narutopedia Wiki]] since it appears to be related to it. I also contacted Dantman. This wiki's got a lotta SysOps'n Rollbackers and active editors so contacting them all is kinda intimidating =P [[User talk:Tyciol|+]]Y[[Special:Contributions/Tyciol|c]] 06:17, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
:... Need I say more? — [[User talk:Simant|S<small>im</small>A<small>nt</small>]] 06:42, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
::I'm sorry I've been way out of it this weekend. What's happening?--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Uzumaki Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 09:49, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::The adoption request has absolutely nothing to do with the Declaration, Tyciol is completely out of the loop and has simply jumped in without a clue of what the real issue is. I simply placed an adoption request for someone here to be made a crat because of the fact there are no active bureaucrats. Last I heard, the wiki goes up for adoption if all bureaucrats are not active for 2 months. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 09:53, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::I see. I was under the impression when Dantman wasn't around I act in his stead since I believe it was me and Dantman who started moving in like 2009. /shrug Guess I never thought we '''needed''' a bureaucrat.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Uzumaki Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 09:59, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::Bureaucrats are the only people who can set people to Rollback status and there are a whole pile of people in the Rollback group that never come here any more. There are many people on this wiki who deserve rollback status but simply can't get it due to the lack of any active bureaucrats. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 10:06, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Thanks :) ==
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hey mate...a user named kuroiraikou keeps changine the six paths sage mode article...& the small one in the six paths sage tech...wanted to talk him out of doing it but then thought U can be more effective... --'''[[User:DARK ZER06 |DARK ZERO]]'''--''[[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]'' 09:58, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
   
Thanks for putting the latest episode article back to the proper name. :) --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 11:44, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
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== re: moval ==
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Meh. I do not really feel the need to ask and wait, wait, wait for it to work. I will just be doing it manually in the meantime until I eventually get tired, and probably then I will ask for a bot.<br>-- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 23:34, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Edo Tensei stuff ==
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== RE: Character Pages ==
   
Could you switch out the images for the Edo Tensei article when/if they're uploaded. Protection and all that.
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Oh ok I understand it makes since now. Thanks for the help. [[User:AllstarUchiha|AllstarUchiha]] ([[User talk:AllstarUchiha|talk]]) 01:11, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
Alsooo, I was minding my own business yesterday when I came across some information... you're the Bleach wikia founder O_O I was thoroughly impressed and also realised that... you're really a fossil =\ --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:11, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
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== tailed beast genders ==
   
Lool don't you hate when that happens though. I have a friend that begged for bureaucrat status on a wiki and once he got it he demoted the founder and then took over the wikia. =\
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Question: why did you remove them?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 23:00, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:It didn't say they don't, either. This was discussed on the talkpage. Gyuki is a bull for example and bulls are male.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 23:39, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
I think I have a full grasp on the declaration, it's just that Edo Tensei is sysop-level protected and all.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:23, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
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==[[Tenseigan: Scattering Truth-Seeking Balls]]==
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Why did you revert the rename? Unless you can think of a name that includes [[Tenseigan]] and [[Truth-Seeking Ball]] AND that hints that there are multiple of those balls, rename appropriately. Not to be angry or anything, but you are reverting renames for no apparent reason.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 13:03, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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:Plus, even though the name is longer, it perfectly captures what is happening in the technique. Unlike the previous name, an that what unnamed techniques should do.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 13:04, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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::He did in fact used black spheres. It shows that you haven't seen the movie yet. He even used 'em like a shield, similarly to Obito. In his normal spheres, he didn't use the truth-seeking balls.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 14:42, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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:::a) I am not the one who created the page. b) The movie is already in the theaters, so there is a way to watch it without piracy. c) Nobody suggested you looking yourself. d) I am not accusing you of anything >.<--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 15:06, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Question: Then WHY do edits on material when you have no idea what happened/is happening?--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 15:21, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::I saw that. There is no way I could've known the difference, 'cause, as Suzaku said, they look exactly the same. Well, the original creator provided proof in the form of a link to a Youtube video where the entire movie is shown in 4 parts, so...--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 15:30, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::[[Chakra Rosary|does]] [[Tenseigan: Scattering Chakra Rosary|this]] please 'ya now?--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 16:04, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
   
Just needed someone to slap sense into us.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:27, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
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== Impressive ==
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Congratulations. You are the sole user that has received [[Thread:151791#10|at least 20 kudos]] on one comment. I guess people really like you and your opinions. <sup>(Not much of an honor, I know, but it was something I just happened to notice.)</sup> -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 02:48, January 31, 2015 (UTC)
   
[[:File:Fu sacrifice.png|This as well por favor]].--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:36, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
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Congrats TU3, that is indeed something. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 02:51, January 31, 2015 (UTC)
   
:Cerez, he changed the protection level so you can add it yourself :) --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 12:38, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
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== Location/Village infoboxes ==
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Hey I just started a [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:161643 discussion] of a possibility to integrate infoboxes for locations and or villages and I was wondering what you think of it. --[[User:OmegaRasengan|OmegaRasengan]] ([[User talk:OmegaRasengan|talk]]) 20:43, February 1, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Image Upload Hogging ==
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== Founder of Narutopedia ==
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Thanks [[User:Sasuke79|Sasuke79]] ([[User talk:Sasuke79|talk]]) 17:53, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
   
I believe there is such a thing as hogging the image uploading. When I mean that, I don't mean that they hold it ransom and forbid anyone touching it :P. What I generally mean by it is that other users upload their images and don't let other people try to upload their own, maybe better quality, images which is slightly aggrieving as it seems like other people are being written out of the equation and not being allowed to contribute. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 12:20, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
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== KKM ==
   
:I know people can upload when they want, but it's annoying if other people can't upload because "someone" else has already uploaded before them and nobody will allow the newer image to be used. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 12:30, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
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Okay, so you just classified the Byakugan as a KKM due to Kaguya only being listed as a KKM user, making all of Kaguya's techniques KKM. Since Hagoromo is the same case as his mother, only being listed as a KKM and not a KKG user and thereby his Rinnegan is a KKM too, wouldn't that mean his TSB (and the rest of his techniques) are KKM as well? -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 21:58, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
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:Well, as I said, it only listed Hagoromo as a KKM user and not a KKG user. And you're right, we don't have bloody clue what it is. But yeah, doesn't him being listed as only a KKM user mean anything? I think it does mean that all of his techniques are KKM, being listed as one and all... -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 22:09, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
   
::{{Quote|I want Impure World Reincarnation to be Resurrection. I want Sage Art: Many Ultra-Big Ball Spiralling Serial Spheres to be Sage Art: Super Big Ball Rasentarengan. I desperately want Minato's full body shot out of his article. But unfortunately, save for the last one, there have been descent, disagreements, and finally closure.}}
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== [[Thread:162690]] ==
:I don't see how this has any relevance to Image Upload Hogging. -.- --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 13:08, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Song Pages ==
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[http://naruto.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk%3AAttack_Prevention_Technique&diff=1014325&oldid=1014284 Considering this comment you made], may I have your opinion in this thread?<br>-- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 23:23, February 10, 2015 (UTC)
Hello TheUltimate3, I was wondering if you could help me with [[Future Eve|this page]] as we do not know if it is the right song. Kunoichi101 had put a delete tag on it but I'm not sure if we should keep it on there or if we should do something else. Can you please help? [[User_Talk:Joshbl56|<span style="color:green;">Joshbl56</span>]] 08:01, May 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Site Notice ==
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== Tenseigan (Energy Vessel) ==
   
Hey TU3, the [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice|declaration has ended]]? And where does we use that? :D [[User:IndxcvNovelist|IndxcvNovelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]|[[w:c:rockleespinoff|My]] [[w:c:phoenixrising|Wiki]]) 11:09, May 28, 2012 (UTC)
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TheUltimateThree, it was referred to as the ''Tenseigan'' as well in the movie, not the "Energy Vessel." And "Tenseigan (Energy Vessel)" is distinguishable enough. -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 23:57, February 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Lifted Embargo ==
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== Re: Naruto's Six Paths Sage Mode ==
   
Oh how I wish you hadn't Ulti-san.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:45, May 28, 2012 (UTC)
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I really don't want to be involved in that guy's antics. What do you want to know? The databook article doesn't mention the tailed beasts at all, it just says that it's a gift from the Rikudo Sennin. Also, he was in that mode when he kicked the Gudodama, not in normal Sage Mode or in Kurama Mode, if that's of importance. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:05, February 12, 2015 (UTC)
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:[http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=52141270&postcount=69 Here.] And I agree with both of you, I don't even want to dignify that guy's statements with a response.
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:-- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 15:34, February 12, 2015 (UTC)
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::Not true. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:52, February 12, 2015 (UTC)
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:::I have the physical copy and a high quality digital copy, there's no blurry text for me. So yeah, the other one. :D • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:44, February 12, 2015 (UTC)
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::::I did, but I have no idea where else it is mentioned (or where that information came from). • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:57, February 12, 2015 (UTC)
   
Doomed.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:02, May 28, 2012 (UTC)
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== Infobox Pictures ==
   
== tt ==
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Hi I have another question about character pages. Would it be alright if the info boxes had how they looked in The Last? Because every character page has how they look like in Part 1, Part 2, and rhe Epilogue, but I think a pic of how they looked in The Last should be added because all of them have a different appearance. [[User:AllstarUchiha|AllstarUchiha]] ([[User talk:AllstarUchiha|talk]]) 23:38, February 17, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hello {{Unsigned|Paul Dy}}
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== WoW ==
   
==Madara==
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As a fellow Azerothian, I'd like to know your opinion on the overall state of the game as it is now. Do you think of quitting? Or do you enjoy WoD? And how would you rank all the expansions, from best to worst? My ranking goes:
U edit 'madara' page and remove that image:
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# Wrath of The Lich King (The golden age, highest number of subscribers. Northrend is an environmentally stunning continent that has the best lore&story yet with fitting soundtrack accompanying it all, dungeons&raids well designed.)
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# Mists of Pandaria ("WoW 2.0" essentially, worked out more or less, everything except Pandas was great about it ironically.)
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# Cataslysm (Epic start, anticlimactic ending expansion. Let's level 10 alts before the novelty wears off.)
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# The Burning Crusade (There's a group which says TBC > WOTLK, but in my opinion it was a "Let's patch what was wrong with Vanilla and make iconic characters from Warcraft III into villains for no apparent reasons besides the cool factor" expansion.)
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# Warlords of Draenor (The unfulfilled promises/false marketing expansion.)
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# Vanilla.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 22:43, February 21, 2015 (UTC)
   
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It's cool, I hope it gets better. And well, that's the thing. The Garrison was great at first but has become a mandatory chore and it killed professions. Who needs herbalism? Everyone has a garden. Who needs mining? Everyone has a mine. Hell primary professions too from followers. Not to mention Enchanting and Jewelcrafting have been greatly reduced to fewer slots and "perks" of Blacksmithing, Tailoring and so on are gone too. Also the only thing gold is for now are Savage Blood and mounts.
   
Why? Spoiler?
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Since daily quest hubs have been removed, reputations are a grind... kill 10 000 mobs to get exalted, fun. And that's the thing - you are in the world until you hit 100, but once you do, there's no reasons. Hidden treasures and rares drop equipment inferior to heroic dungeons, raids, invasions and follower missions.
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So while the experience from 90 to 100 was great, one of the best, there's simply not much to do at 100. The endgame consists of garrison chores, 2 raids. For those who do PvP queuing for Ashran. For those who care about achievements, grinding for reputations with no rewards besides a follower. And optionally pet battles for those who like Pokemon.
   
and thx, i'll try don't contribute again. {{Unsigned|Rodrigo Rodrigues Silva}}
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Hopefully 6.2 gives me a reason to come back. I had much more fun and more things to do in MoP.
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And I'm glad you agree about WotLK, I miss it T_T For WoD, even though it has the lore, the actual stories are half-assed. It was obviously rushed so they could launch it in November. What they did with Orgrim has no excuse ._.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 10:36, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Episode Names ==
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They might as well remove the professions completely at this point, the very few enchants and gems make little difference. Also removing mandatory stats (Hit, Expertise and so on) while adding the new stats makes the removal of Reforging bizarre, it would have been more usable than ever now. For hubs, the only differences between them and no daily hubs is that the former gives you x reason to kill y mobs in location z, while in WoD you aren't told killing which mobs and where gives you reputation for which faction and since there's no quest telling you to do so, there's less volition to partake in such an activity. So the removal of dailies hasn't solved anything only worsened it.
   
Why do people change the name of the episode articles to the "literal" translation, rather than just using the name given by the animators and the one listed on Wikipedia ? :S --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 11:24, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
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Also I don't get why people hated dailies. Well, some of them I do, but dailies like Cataclysm's Molten Front or Mists of Pandaria's Landfall were superb, some of the best in WoW. The way I see it:
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# People complain that they "must" do x
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# Blizzard removes x
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# People suddenly complain that Blizzard removed the x and that there's nothing to do now
   
:I like it when the episodes are named how they were named. If someone comes here and see an article about Episode 30 and the article name differs from the official name, then they would be confused. Consistency is better for the anime episodes imo. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 11:37, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
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For the rest, don't tell me that by "the best new character of the expac" you mean Joan of Argus.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 12:18, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
::It happened again on the episode where Sasuke uses the Dragon Flame Technique against Orochimaru. The user moved the page 3-4 times unnecessarily and left a trail of redirects =.= --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:15, July 27, 2012 (UTC)
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Now that you talk Draenei and Velen, it was the dumbest idea ever to make him do something in WoD and eventually sacrifice himself. But guess what, it doesn't freaking count, cause it wasn't our Velen, who still does shit but sits in Exodar, but AU past Velen lol.
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There was really no reason to make another one and let him die if Blizzard ain't gonna do a thing with our Velen, so they might have as well killed him.
   
== Image ==
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And I don't see anything special about Yrel. The best of her character so far has been the hentai pic of her getting pounded by "daddy Blackhand" Originally, she was supposed to be Velen's niece and Maraad's love interest, but Feminists were complaining that "a woman doesn't need no man" so Blizzard scrapped her and Maraad having been in love and possibly her being Velen's niece as well. I hope not though, since it's been suggested that Kil'jaeden is Velen's brother, if that's true, then that would make Yrel Kil'jaeden's daugher, THAT would be some interesting plot development and twist. I hope they go that route.
   
y r u deleting my image again and again???{{Unsigned|LordLance}}
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And I agree. It's one thing listening to your fans, but another to dance according to a minority's command. Blizzard only listens to the loudest, never content always complaining group of nerds.
   
ok i get it sorry for d trouble:){{Unsigned|LordLance}}
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* Fat Alliance neckbeard: "Warlords of Draenor is just another Orc Expansion, change that else I'm cancelling my sub!"
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# "Blizzard reworks Gorground, removes Orgrim Doomhammer's storyline and character development, reduces him to a minute cameo in Talador and shits on his head"
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# Fat alliance nerd: "Hahaha, there ya go Horde faggets"
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# Blizzard: "See? We listen to our fans!"
   
== Re: If it's not obvious by now... ==
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* But the dumbest one ever was:
It's my style and I've made it my style because of all the heat and arguments this wiki has had with me over the most ridiculous of reasons. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:38, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
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# "Waa waa waaa, I can play WoW only at night when I can't see the environment and mobs, I'm also an adult who's afraid of the dark, so do something Blizz or else I will crap my underwear and unsubscribe"
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# Meeting at Blizzard: "We are rapidly losing subs, what do we do? We must act quickly!"
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# An employee: "(sarcastic remark) I know, lets listen to the crybabies and remove the day/night time cycle, haha..."
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# Derpy Colleagues: "(taken seriously) Brilliant! We are going to be richer than ever, muhahahaha!"
   
:I don't. However, I feel that sometimes being "antagonistic" to people can make them better editors so we don't have to keep reminding people not to break policies. That's just my opinion though.
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* Some months later, nerds cry that the day/night cycle was removed and demand its comeback, threatening with cancellation of their subscription otherwise:
{{Quote|Because I will be watching.}}
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# Blizzard responds: "To satisfy both parties, we are bringing nights but only in 1/4 of Azeroth's zones and in 2 Draenor zones!"
:STALKER! /jokes --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:44, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
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--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 15:22, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Kunoichi101 ==
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I wonder what's up with the forehead thingy he gave her tho. Well, this time around, Varian stayed back on our Azeroth and "you" are essentially supposed to be the hero/commander whoever. The Alliance has more heroes and otherwise than just Varian, though. Tirion Fordring was heavily featured in WotLK, Thrall or rather "Go'el" was heavily featured in Cata (oh wait, he is Horde, or is he?) and hey, in MoP Varian's son Anduin had more appearances than his father, so as you can see, it's not all just about Varian ; D
You might want to get involved with this again. The user is still acting high and mighty and is refusing to listen to anyone and constantly freaks out for absolutely no reason whatsoever --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:42, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:{{Quote|And for the record, English in the infoboxes, not an issue.}}
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And dunno, love and revenge for the loss of it are strong motivations, rather than just: "I'm a mere priestess with no combat experience, that can become a top-class Paladin in just a few days with no explanation whatsoever, because I believe in myself." Not to mention I think Maraad deserved better, should have at least gotten some pussy, but nope, he went back into the past from which he had escaped only to get killed by an orc. His should have been a more of a redemption story, because if you have seen Lords of War last episode, he kinda had messed up and lived with regret. Not sure if dying to protect Yrel did him justice, but if they had been in love, maybe it would have more.
It doesn't do anything. It shows up nothing whatsoever on the infoboxes. All that was added was the episode's name. =.=
 
   
:{{Quote|Unfortunately, it would be an abuse of my ability to unblock you Kunoichi}}
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And what do you mean by Tyrande? Malfurion was sleeping in the Emerald Dream for thousands of years, she did just fine all that time by herself and was especially badass in Warcraft III. She is no way dependent on him.
She was not blocked for the large edits, I believe she was blocked for poor wiki etiquette towards other users when asked basic questions
 
   
:I am getting the feeling you are very against everything I try to do here. That's my opinion because it feels very much like it. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:24, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
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Gorground was originally supposed to heavily feature Orgrim Doomhammer and depict his transformation from a bad guy into a good one, but Alliance alpha/beta testers complained about WoD "featuring too many orcs" (duh, it's Draenor biatch) so Gorground got reworked into its current form, plants vs fungi, hence the mess that's Orgrim's short appearance in Talador, after the cut storyline they simply put him there for the sake of it I guess.
   
::I know, I'm following up on your comments, is all. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:27, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
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And I disagree about MoP being Horde focused. There were Varian and Anduin, LOTS of Jaina as well. Not to mention if freaking escalated with the Alliance raiding Orgrimmar.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 17:05, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
:::I suppose, but I feel the way I try to get newer editors on how things work here does have its merits. If someone can't take a slightly blunt response, then clearly they aren't editors who would last here very long. If people take the bluntness and improve on it, they can become better editors. But yeah, you are right: it's a battle of ideals and obviously I try to go along with the wiki culture as best as possible, but I do feel that some of the culture from before does need to shift and change to adapt to today's standards. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:37, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
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We may continue once I return from my extended walk that I gotta take so I don't become a pig after eating all that meat and candies.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 19:21, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
{{Quote|Not your choice to make. I do not want Narutopedia to be one of those closed off wikis where new users are scared off because the current body make it look like a frat where only a few chosen people can get in.}}
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Alright, so my extended walk has run short somewhat, cause I'm lazy. So:
I know, I don't intend to be that intimidating lol
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Correction, when this is all over, she will be the full on leader of the AU past Draenei, meaning she will be completely irrelevant in the next expansion pack, since we are likely not going to stay in that time and universe, so much for a new Alliance hero.
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And I know my lore pal. The Argent Crusade is still more Alliance-friendly though, since they kinda hate the Undead. And by this Tirion ain't Alliance logic, Thrall ain't Horde either, since he isn't the Warchief anymore and he is kinda a Human-lover. Talk about Stockholm syndrome.
   
{{Quote|But I'm not doing anything of physical importance as of now, so tell me what parts of our culture do you feel need adapting?}}
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Gorgrond, there's this piece of trivia [http://wow.gamepedia.com/Orgrim_Doomhammer_%28Warlords_of_Draenor%29#Trivia] it has no reference, but that's what people say on forums, so shrugs.
The whole culture about the images. When the latest episode came out, I uploaded several images. Now, out of all those images, I can guarantee just one of them is being used. The rest were replaced by cropped images. I keep feeling as though there are some users here who are jealous of me having the ability to capture at 1920x1080 (applies only to Nartuo Shippuden) since not a lot of people can and because of that, my images are either cropped for no reason or not used at all in favour of other user's images. If I counted all the images I've uploaded, I'd guarantee 2/5 of them are being used.
 
   
There was also another case with the rationale. Fairly recently, Cerez went to about 4 of my images and just changed the rationale for no reason, citing "useless info". This then started an unnecessary revert war, since (from what I understand) the rationale is to depict THAT image. They aren't supposed to be streamlined to be matching. The stuff he removed was relating to the image being 1080p High Definition and that if the image was to be replaced, it had to be 1920x1080 or greater, not less. I asked Jacce to sysop protect those images due to it.
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A few questions:
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# What do you predict to come after WoD?
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# What would you do if you were in Blizzard seat?
   
There are many other things, but those two are most prominent imo. I feel that the wiki should be taking advantage of Shippuden's 1080p quality and not tossing it away with crappy 480p images. --
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This was supposed to be much longer but I forgot a half of it.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 20:48, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:56, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:I know this probably is none of business, but what's going with Kunoichi101? Well, sorta of my business, I suppose. I know her, personally. She's not the type to stir trouble. Maybe I can talk to her? We used to go school together, so she'll listen to me.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 22:49, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
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Draenei aren't the only race which needs progression. When was the last time we've got Gnome, Dwarf lore update or at least characters' stories continuation? In WotLK I believe. And as you mention Worgen... the Worgen, Forsaken and Blood Elves technically aren't even races, so I find it stupid that they are considered as such. The Worgen are mostly Gilnean Humans and Night Elves affected by a Druidic curse, not an actual race, but at least two races using a transformation, so they are more like a faction if anything.
::You might try reading the messages at her talkpage. ~[[User:IndxcvNovelist|IndxcvNovelist]] <sup>([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/IndxcvNovelist|contribs]] | [[w:c:phoenixrising|PR]] | [[w:c:rockleespinoff|RLS]])</sup> 22:53, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
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Forsaken also are animated mostly Human and High Elven corpses, not a single biological race, not to mention they can't even reproduce, yet another faction considered a race in WoW. And the Blood Elves are High Elves on crack, that's it. They should freaking rejoin the Alliance now that their addiction is no longer an issue. The only reason they stay with the Horde is because Sylvanas introduced them there and for in-game faction balance, Hordes would cry if their only good looking race were to join the Alliance and Forsaken were removed. Lore-wise, Lordaeron should have been long reclaimed.
   
== English ==
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# Flying has been removed with WoD, who visits Stormwind/Orgrimmar or any of Azeroth nowadays anyway? Level 90 boost it is, the old continents are a ghost town.
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# Talk about it, Stormwind is yet to be completely repaired, doesn't make any sense story-wise, Blizzard is just lazy.
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# Doubtful they would do such a thing. They don't really care about the lore/story. This is evident with you starting in Cataclysm era (unless you are a Blood Elf or Draenei, in which case you timetravel back even further) then you timetravel back in time once arriving on Outland, then you travel slightly into the Future (but still you are in the past) once arriving on Northrend, then you travel into the time from which you had started and there goes MoP and WoD. Obviously, I get that this can't be completely avoided, but they should update the old stuff at least slightly so it makes more sense. But sure, they aren't gonna remake Pandaria now just because Garrosh is dead, it's still "recent enough" Outland and Northrend on the other hand definitely aren't.
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# There's a quite recent crackpot "theory" around the WoW forums, that at the end of WoD, our time and universe will either be erased or we won't be able to return back home for some reason, meaning the next expansion would take place on the past AU Azeroth instead, essentially "retconning" everything until WoD outta existence. The level cap would be moved back to 1-60. While very interesting, I doubt Blizzard has balls to do such a thing, not to mention the amount of content they would have both to remove and rework. But if they did it, it would be "WoW 2.0" essentially and lore-wise a semi-reboot (shit happened, but got erased) but there would be no Lich King and all that cool shit and nerds would commit suicide.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 11:15, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
Just a question. Why do we need to add the literal english if it is the same with the article name? ~[[User:IndxcvNovelist|IndxcvNovelist]] <sup>([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/IndxcvNovelist|contribs]] | [[w:c:phoenixrising|PR]] | [[w:c:rockleespinoff|RLS]])</sup> 22:39, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
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# In that case, the next expansion's location would have to take place on Azeroth. Not sure if we want Burning Legion on Azeroth :P Also why just Stormwind? Poor Ironforge, Gnomeregan (yet to be completely reclaimed btw) Darnassus, Exodar and now Gilneas (yet to be reclaimed as well) they are just kinda... there. Same for the Horde's besides Orgrimmar.
:Then it should be added only in such cases.... <span style="text-decoration:underline;">[[w:c:naruto:User:UltimateSupreme|¤<big>U</big>LTIMATE <span style="color:red;"><big>S</big>UPREME¤]]</span></span>[[User talk:UltimateSupreme|(T@lk)]]☺ 03:07, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
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# Well, this is a huge problem with Warcraft. There are too many stories to tell and WoW is too limited to do it properly. We have Bolvar sitting frozen, doing nothing, will anything ever be done with that? Hence why Warcraft 4 should be a thing.
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# Obviously they can't update everything to match a single point in time, but it should at least make sense during the questing experience, that CAN be done. Consider that when a character is made as level 1, we play during "year 0" let's say. And essentially as we level up, years go by. In that case, if they fix Draenei starting zones, Blood Elf starting zones, Outland and Northrend, it will all fit.
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# Makes you question tho what's the freaking point of us doing anything there, since Garrosh is dead, most of the Warlords are dead and the Dark Portal is destroyed, they are no longer a threat to us and we don't owe those people anything. About the crackpot theory, well, level 105 or 110 seems strange, one would have thought that it would be 100 at most and that's it.
   
== Signature ==
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About the races you agree I guess? Which races would you add/remove to/from which faction?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 12:19, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
I'm going to ask you to stop changing your signature, you're in direct violation of point 12, subsection note 2-3. If you persist, I'll be forced to call down Shodaime TranClan to ban you.
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Ugh, offtopic, but I would break necks and cut testicles/ovaries at the moment >_< '''I have lost 7 matches of Pokemon Showdown in a row''', what the hell, is this no luck day or what? Aarrghhh... That would have been okay and all, but '''the last one was a tie, YET I lost and the other one won''', how did the computer decide that I'm the loser even though it was a tie? "The universe conspires against me"--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 13:32, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
Best Regards,<br/>
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Pokemon is like chess or a card game, just with more options. The major difference is that there's quite a lot of randomness present in Pokemon, unlike chess or card games which have minimal. On the thing:
Pleasedon'tbanme.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 02:22, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
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# In my opinion there are 2 major reasons why the cities are empty. One is that each new expansion's hub has everything in it (all the portals, vendors, trainers etc.) and the second that there are too many realms but not enough players. I'd reduce the number in half at least.
:Serious? ~[[User:IndxcvNovelist|IndxcvNovelist]] <sup>([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/IndxcvNovelist|contribs]] | [[w:c:phoenixrising|PR]] | [[w:c:rockleespinoff|RLS]])</sup> 03:44, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
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# Talking Garrosh, is it just me or is his character kinda inconsistent? I remember in Cata him being angry at Sylvanas for using the plague on innocents and using her Valkyres to raise enemies' corpses into her own army. So I get the vibe that originally, he wasn't intended to be so evil.
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# We kinda already do that though, with the exceptions of the aforementioned locations. And new isn't always good either, viz MoP. Blizzard tried to do WoW 2.0 with it and most refused it cause "Kung-Fu Panda lol"
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# Thing is, they can't hurt anyone anymore but themselves, their portals are destroyed and most of their forces have been killed. It would take many years before they could attempt another assault on our or AU past Azeroth. Well, I guess Gul'dan needs to die so AU Medivh doesn't contact him and all.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 14:39, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Re: My take on your "Culture" issue ==
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== reporting bad edit ==
{{Quote|If an image is cropped, I assume they are done because we don't really need the entire image. In fact, typically we don't want the entire image.}}
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Per my request and discussion on the requests page, [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Teuchi?diff=1026084&oldid=1018898 here] is one of Kunoichi's pointless edits. There's probably more that were done recently, but that one caught my eye. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 10:12, March 14, 2015 (UTC)
Most of the character images I upload from Shippuden are tagged HDShot. I tag them like this because it's HD and the image should stay HD. If it is cropped out of the 16:9 ratio, by default and by computer logic, the image stops being HD automatically, which gives a misleading filename. Hence why, I put in my rationale that it's a 1080p HD image and that if it's to be replaced (eg, using the upload a new version system), it must be in 1080p and not less, because that's a degradation of the original quality. In the [[:File:Ninja Swordsmen Revived.png]] file, [[User:Abramnamikaze|another user]] uploaded over my 1080p image with a tiny image that generally violated the replaceability of the image in the rationale. My opinion is that if you want the rationale to say only specific things and not be user-generated, you should create a form that simply gives predefined rationale that can't be changed.
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:The reason for that policy being added was based on Simant telling Kunoichi101 off for removing the trailing comma from the end of infobox lists, because it does nothing to improve the article and just adds a pointless revision for people to see (those commas will keep coming back due to semantic forms, so the edit to remove them is pointless). In that case, she continued to remove the comma despite being told to stop at least 3 times by Simant, so I decided to add a clear policy of "don't make edits that don't change the appearance of the page" to build on things ranging from removing the underscores, adding/removing spaces and fixing headings.
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:The problem is that, you can make these kind of "unseen" edits as part of another edit (like expanding an article), but Kunoichi is just going into pages and making only edits that nobody is going to see reflected on the page, she doesn't actually contribute anything to expanding the wiki's content in terms of expanding stubs or uploading images: her edits are primarily minor and bordering on obsessive in nature.
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:But I'll continue to report bad edits as and when they happen. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 13:39, March 14, 2015 (UTC)
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::<blockquote>''And I'm just gonna ask out loud, when did I say to stop letting me know when Kunoichi101 did something that pissed you off?''</blockquote>
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::I eventually got bored of all the bad edits that I just stopped bothering to report them, since it was basically equating to every edit she made. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 10:44, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
   
{{Quote|The "image can only be replaced by another 1080p" image is in my opinion, not a valid rational. As you've stated earlier, not many people have the ability to change the image in that case which gives you an edge (I suspect that was the point, to avoid the problems you were having with Culture Issue #1) but I understand why it was removed. Valid implacability rationals is more, "Image of similar rational", "Image that shows a better representation of the described" ect.}}
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==Talk page formatting==
It's there to stop what happened on the file mentioned above by the replacement of an image that is less than 1920x1080 (or around that if cropped). I don't put that there to give myself an edge: I just don't like it when I upload large 1920x1080 images (some are nearly 2MB or larger) and then having them cleared for much smaller and not-so-great quality images.
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Is fromatting talk pages not allowed or something cause it appears to get sajuuk pretty butt-hurt. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 15:53, March 18, 2015 (UTC)
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:alright thanks. i don't really think ive edited a old one in a long while so i wont. thanks again. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 16:06, March 18, 2015 (UTC)
   
{{Quote|The issue is not the quality, but representation. I don't care if an image is 360p as long is it represents things right.}}
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== Chakra ==
Quality is just as important as the representation of an image. You could have a perfect representation of an image, but terrible quality. It won't look good for the wiki if we have a lot of people uploading terrible images with a perfect representation of the image. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 10:49, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
::{{Quote|Doesn't change the fact it's not a valid rational.}}
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If you would be so inclined... would you weigh in on [[Thread:165680|this discussion]]? Some guy needs help learning the concept of chakra... Would like your opinion, personally... <br>{{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 02:32, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
:I can't seem to find anything written down that you must write the rationale a specific way. I put in 1080p High Definition because the images I upload are just that: 1080p. They should not be replaced by an image of anything lower than that (using the Upload a new version of the file: if it's a separate file, then that's not violating the replaceability).
 
   
::{{Quote|You are right however, quality is important, still not as important as representation, but yes it is important.}}
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== Re: Serious Question ==
:It's important when in the case of character infobox images. [[:File:Fuguki.png|Click here for an example]]. This image is a good representation, but it's let down by the fact the image is of a terrible quality due to the grainy background, which is severely degrading that image.
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I'll just quote the Manual of Style:
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:''Do not make edits that do absolutely nothing to change the appearance of the page when it is rendered, such as adding or removing a space between paragraphs, adding underscores in spaces when including an image onto an article, or removing unused parameters from infobox templates. This does nothing except add pointless edit revisions to the page history and does not improve the wiki.''
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:''Do not go adding last names to links unless you have a valid reason to do so (full character name hasn't been used earlier in the article). Full names should not be abused to bypass redirects.''
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:''Do not change page numbers in ref tags to have a leading zero. Going around the wiki and changing 3 to 03 despite most pages sticking to 3 doesn't improve the wiki at all and just adds pointless edits, just stick with 3.''
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Those are full definitions of pointless edits, especially the first one, which (while you considered to be fine) Kunoichi101 regularly violates with her edits. Two other types of pointless edit include:
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:Reverting something just because another editor did so, for the sake of "I just want to click the undo button".
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:"Stating the obvious" (aka stating something that a viewer can already determine without it being spelled, either because it's mentioned elsewhere on the page, or because they already know what it is referring to). An example of this type of edit would be stating that a trivia point is mentioned in the episode on an episode article (eg "As mentioned in the episode, X means Y" on a page that summarises the episode).
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'''Very rarely''' (and I put heavy emphasis on that), she makes a minor edit that is actually good (such as correcting poor spelling), but the vast majority of her edits are those which do nothing to change the page's appearances and Simant regularly told her to stop those edits. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:11, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
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:That will take time so you won't be able to get a reply for that for a few days. But you can start by looking at the contributions and comparing at least the first page of "mainspace" only edits on her contributions list. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:43, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
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::Apologies, I'm gonna be quite busy, both with other wiki's and irl, so I won't be able to fulfil your request for examples of pointless edits. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:22, April 20, 2015 (UTC)
   
::{{Quote|It is not important enough however where a made up rational that reads like "this way, only a few people can upload images!" is appropriate.}}
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== Protection Removal ==
:It's not written as to intend that. You said yourself that you can access 1920x1080 resolution. I got my Crunchyroll account to improve the wiki with much higher quality images, I didn't get it to waste my money since I don't really need to watch in 1080p but I do for the improvement of this wiki. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 11:04, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:::{{Quote|However I'm getting away from myself. I'm not interested in just images. What else concerns you about our culture. I'm sure it's not just images.}}
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Greetings, TU3!
::I can't think of anything really, my pet peeve is just how some users handle a situation with the images I upload and some users are too fixed in one specific way and they don't seem to want to change it. There's another culture that I have to address and it's with the release of a new episode. I don't think your aware of it, but when the new episode is released on Thursday, Cerez literally spams uploads to the wiki for various images. He clearly mentioned [[Forum:Administrative Declaration#Discussion|here]]:
 
{{Quote|Cerez365|Also, my "hogging" of uploading images as the self-proclaimed image <s>queen</s> chief (I always thought I was just the Herald) has been brought up as an issue. Thinking about it, this might actually be the underlying issue and though I didn't see anyone going out of their way to do this for me, nor did I complain- I paid my dues as a noob ( '-'), I'll try to curb that and give some of the younger ones more of a chance to contribute in that manner.}}
 
::However, several weeks later, I have seen absolutely no indication whatsoever that Cerez intends to curb his uploading and he is certainly giving nobody else a chance to upload. His belief (in my opinion) is that "I upload an image and I will revert any attempts to make the image better" which is extremely selfish because he's clearly telling people that he wants to continue being the chief image uploader and he's refusing to give other people, like me, the chance to even try. I suggested at one point in the declaration that a list of images that need swapped out (manga -> anime) should be provided by someone on the episode's talkpage so that the community can get involved and so it wouldn't be the same 3 people uploading images. That obviously hasn't went anywhere because of Cerez's attitude to hogging the uploader. I checked the upload log and he uploaded at least 15 images, maybe even more, on the release of the recent episode. I barely got in 8 and had I not got my 8 uploads in, Cerez would probably have 25 uploads. Please don't tell me that's not hogging the uploader because if someone uploads 25 images within 30 minutes, it is. He's giving nobody else the chance and I understand that he's not able to rewatch the episodes, but if that's the case, then all he should be doing is listing the manga images, enjoying the episode more and not just watching it for the sake of spamming the wiki with images. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 11:13, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:::There isn't really any other concerns, other than the ones I've pointed out above. There are probably other cultures that I'm not aware of but the main one that I get involved in is the images. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 11:23, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
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My rights to create my own user profile were revoked by Dantman back in 2008, when I was new to the wiki. I was hoping that you or another Sysop could maybe reinstate me, since I'm a forum mod now and I'd like to be able to leave some links or help users figure out what the hell I'm actually doing here.
   
:::Something I didn't mention is that I have messaged Cerez 2-3 times now, asking him quite politely to remember that he said he would curb the uploads but he hasn't ever responded or even listened. It's why I feel I should mentioned it to you so you can let him know. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 13:10, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
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Any help would be appreciated :)--[[User:NeedleJizo|Jizo ]] ([[User talk:NeedleJizo|talk]]) 12:05, April 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Re: Talkpage Policy ==
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== re: Manuel of Style ==
I didn't threaten him. I told him that if he removed my messages again then I would list him for blocking on Jacce's talkpage. I was slightly blunt but not threatening =.= --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:40, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:@TheUltimate3 Thank you for your support. The Fox King([[User:The Fox King|tylerbryant547@gmail.com]] ([[User talk:The Fox King|talk]]) 03:29, June 21, 2012 (UTC))
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I agree that it might have to be altered. And well, I was referring more to the [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Kunoichi101?diff=1025488&oldid=1025473 long wall of text I put on her talk page]. Basically, she's been consistently ignoring user requests for years, which is why this witch hunt is happening in the first place. It's not ''all'' because of the Manual of Style.
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EDIT: So yeah, her not heeding what others tell her not to do is why she's been blocked so much and why you-know-who has made it known he wants her gone... {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 09:25, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:<sup>(Funny how I was just talking about the Image Wars with someone else...)</sup> Yeah, it isn't required, but those user requests that have been ignored eventually have become warnings, and ignoring warnings is what gets her blocked, from what I've seen.
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:{{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 09:35, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
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::A user isn't required to listen to user requests... yet she gets [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log?page=User%3AKunoichi101&type=block blocked] for not doing so. That just sounds and looks weird to me. Also, some users complain that such edits "[[User_talk:Kuroiraikou#Minor_changes|add additional entry to page history and RC]]" and is unnecessary. Hey, I'm just telling you what I see. But the Manual of Style should probably be altered. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 09:46, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Really? No discussion, huh? Well, while that was added, Simant enforced it. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 09:47, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Policies can be added without any discussion, if they are deemed to be necessary (hint: [[Project:Three-revert rule]]). Simant enforced a lot of non-written policies, but this one regularly came up as an issue, so I added it. Discussions don't need to be made on obvious common sense things, so there is nothing to change.
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::::Also, I would appreciate that you stop demeaning me whenever you get an opportunity to do so. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 09:51, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Pre-edit conflict: [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Narutopedia:Manual_of_Style?diff=1039146&oldid=1039133 Getting ready for war]. May the force be with you, Master.
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:::::Post edit conflict: Ugh. Seriously, Sajuuk? {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 09:53, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::I'm blatantly serious. I like how you've agreed with the policy so long, but when TU3 raises a stink, you immediately jump to his side and decide the policy is useless. That policy is perfectly valid, Kunoichi has been warned about those edits for years, other users have also been warned about useless edits, so there is nothing to discuss. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 09:57, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
::I haven't been revert warring. Edit warring either on purpose. I try not to fight on here and yes, this week I have made some mistakes, but I haven't tried to add anything on the article that isn't true. The Fox King([[User:The Fox King|tylerbryant547@gmail.com]] ([[User talk:The Fox King|talk]]) 11:38, June 21, 2012 (UTC))
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Note: I only said "seriously" due to frustration with the edit conflict. And I never said the policy was useless, thank you very much. And also, I've already created a topic on the Manual of Style talk page, so it should be discussed there. And I'm on my own side. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 10:00, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:I apologise for that then. The timing of the message was simply bad. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 10:01, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
:::What is interesting about them. I know some were pointless, I just let my favoritism and respect for Madara go too far by here and there adding things true, but unnecessary. I won't do that anymore though. From here on, I'll only attribute abilities that are existent and that no one has added or edit his page to correct spelling errors and such. The Fox King([[User:The Fox King|tylerbryant547@gmail.com]] ([[User talk:The Fox King|talk]]) 12:07, June 21, 2012 (UTC))
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== My Name ==
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I would appreciate you to call me Sajuuk, like every other member of this wiki does. I do not appreciate you calling me "Forum Moderator", because it's obvious you are doing it to deride and make my opinion seem irrelevant to the community. So, you call me Sajuuk, like everyone else, or I'm going to just go to Dantman and complain about your behaviour to wiki editors. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 14:27, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
::::What didn't you like about them. You retorted my thanking you for supporting me against Speysider's threat and said that my edits catching your eye were not usually a good thing. The Fox King([[User:The Fox King|tylerbryant547@gmail.com]] ([[User talk:The Fox King|talk]]) 12:20, June 21, 2012 (UTC))
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:Because you are using any other name, other than "Sajuuk", to refer to me in a degrading manner, as though my opinion is somehow irrelevant and you wish to do whatever possible to make that opinion irrelevant in a serious discussion. I don't ask much, but you cannot just keep referring to editors in any way you wish. If they ask you to refer to them in a certain way, common courtesy is that you should actually honour the request.
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:Also, just because of the way the policy discussion is going, doesn't mean Kunoichi should be infinitely blocked. If she can't make anything other than "non-page changing edits", she should consider simply making no contribution and focusing on some other part of the wiki, like the forums. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:15, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
:::::It was not a threat, it was slightly blunt but not threatening =.=
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::The forums are not "my playground", I don't know why you think they are. Sure I pushed for them to be opened up more, but that's only because I felt it was a way to improve the wiki as a whole. And it has, to an extent.
:::::Why don't you just leave it be since TU3 has told you he has become interested in your edits ? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:22, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
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::Also, if you haven't noticed, she just reverts things because she doesn't actually pay any attention to the multitude of announcement and information posts made by translators and other wiki members, as well as making edits "just in case". She also has no concept of how to use preview, despite knowing of its existence, yet ignores every request to actually use it.
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::These are not suitable, nor acceptable, excuses to make edits. You don't just make edits on the basis of "just in case", the wiki is not a public sandbox: you also don't just keep ignoring editor requests to use specific wiki features to help you to stop making about 5-10 edits in a row. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:24, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
Sorry about the misunderstanding TheUltimate3. I will try not to make you hate them then. The Fox king([[User:The Fox King|tylerbryant547@gmail.com]] ([[User talk:The Fox King|talk]]) 12:43, June 21, 2012 (UTC))
 
 
== File move ==
 
Please move [[:File:Yondaime Mizukage.png|this]] to [[:File:Nidaime Mizukage.png]]. I typo'd the name =.= --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 13:08, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Main Article ==
 
I got a problem from Speysider. He told me that using main article on the main characters/supporting characters is not necessary. so can the anime filler in part II the same as the Adventures at Sea Arc??? I don't want to have a fight with him. [[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 23:24, June 21, 2012 (UTC)Kunoichi101
 
:you should know that kunoichi101 asked for the comminuties opinion because this is a community and not run by one people and now that the community doesnt agree with him he wnats it deleted but it shouldnt be deleted so i will give you the link to it and please dont delete it ok? because it should be talked about by everyone here is the link [[Forum:Main Article with the anime filler]]--{{Unsigned|64.20.45.178}}
 
 
== Excessive Uploads ==
 
[[User:Droidkaju]] is excessively uploading for the past couple of days. In 2 days, he's uploaded nearly 25 images and a lot of them are of poor quality (I know game images are poor quality, but I think they could be much better than the ones he's uploading), unnecessary (5 images for a technique is pointless) and contain black bars. I didn't want to tell him since it would seem pointless, so I'd thought I'd let you know. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 13:44, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
:I don't see a problem with it... — [[User talk:Simant|S<small>im</small>A<small>nt</small>]] 14:49, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::I am not saying there is a problem, nor do I care. I am merely making mention of it. =.= --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:51, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I'm beginning to have a problem with the excessive uploading by the user I mentioned up above. He's so eager to upload crap tons of images that he's uploading images that show nothing but a coloured blur, continually contain black bars and are generally unusuable on the wiki. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 19:23, June 27, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Video Game forum ==
 
can you look at this. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Video_game_characters
 
[[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 06:28, June 28, 2012 (UTC)Kunoichi101
 
 
so you watch naruto. who is your favorite team. my is team 7--[[User:Nicole Janine Holbrook|Nicole Janine Holbrook]] ([[User talk:Nicole Janine Holbrook|talk]]) 15:58, July 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Image embargo ==
 
I didn't think I'd need to ask this, but we need another image embargo. The number of people constantly uploading images that are watermarked by Saiyan Island is ridiculous. Even if it's only for 2 weeks, it would at least stop the nuisance others are creating. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:04, July 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Problem ==
 
[[Talk:Sage Mode]]. This has gone completely out of control and Elveonora is literally bashing and insulting people for no reason. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 21:56, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Naruto's Page ==
 
Hello there! I was wondering if you could go back and fix the Naruto page because Gabriel Dal Belo has some text (very small but really annoying). [[User_Talk:Joshbl56|<span style="color:green;">Joshbl56</span>]] 23:35, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Road to stuff ==
 
 
Heller. If you would, could you please add a <nowiki>== See Also ==</nowiki> section on the movie's article and put the [[Road to Naruto The Movie]] article underneath it. The page is protected.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:39, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== rationales ==
 
I'm trying to make small fixes to rationales, for example [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/File:Kakuzu_masks2.png?diff=prev&oldid=667594 here], just so they say the right thing and they are being reverted. Nothing is wrong with my edit so I don't see Cerez's continual problems with my contributions. I get proper internet access for a couple hours and already I can't contribute =.= --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 14:53, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:<s>If you don't want it to be a valid rationale, that is your problem, not mine. Go and talk about it in private with the other admins and make it a rule, then I might stop putting it in. Until that time arrives, it's perfectly valid until other admins say otherwise. You and Cerez gang up on me every single time I try to improve this wiki. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 14:58, July 19, 2012 (UTC)</s>
 
 
::Sorry about that, I only saw the first bit and misread what you had said. Again, apologies. I've strike out'd the above since I was a bit hasty =] --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:01, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I'd like to point out, just so you know Ulti for future references that I'm using the standard mark up that has been used on the template which explains the fair use rationale as well as the one that everybody who is here now excluding the user above me uses as well users who were here before my time have used. Now while I don't mind overlooking the images uploaded by said user and their rationale, I am not going to let it spread to other rationales. I see no need to overcomplicate something as simple as rationale. It's high quality write Resolution= High and call it a day.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:07, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:But it isn't! That's your problem, you don't know what the resolutions are for HD so you think none of these images are HD, when they are. Even the images you and others have uploaded are 720p HD and that is why I am putting it in. It's your problem if you don't want to accept that because TU3 is actually agreeing with me that it's fine to put in 720p High Definition. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:13, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
::ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:16, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Sorry about this Ulti. I was just explaining my position to you. I don't intend to entertain this.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:20, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Request ==
 
I shouldn't be asking this, but I'm going to have to now. Please tell Cerez to back off and stop being so antagonising about all my edits and to stop revert warring with everything I do. I'm really starting to become bored of his behaviour because he is out to get me. Cerez, I know you'll read this but I do not want you to reply because you will, as you always do, skew the facts and make me out to be a bad guy for no reason whatsoever. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:58, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:This problem will never end. Admin intervention will always be needed. Let's take the case of [[:File:Kinkaku sealed.png|this file]]. You told me it was perfectly fine on my talk page to put "720p High Definition" on the resolution parameter of the rationale and Cerez just ignored me and continued to revert my edit which really did piss me off because, if I get an admin's clearance, there should be no discussion because the staff have said "I approve of this, case closed". Instead of being civil and reading my edit summaries, he has become immature and has descenced to using pathetic insults and calling me a child which I'm not going to tolerate. I'm not going to waste a single bit of my time trying to make him grow up because he won't and as I said previously, the issue will not be solved until the admins intervene. I'm doing nothing wrong, I am trying to defend my edits and I get yelled at constantly. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:58, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::Believe me I have tried and have been ignored completely. He is refusing to listen to me and does not address me by my username anymore and just calls me "User" or "child" so I'm not wasting my time bringing it up to him to end the feud. He will only stop if an admin tells him to. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 19:21, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: "Spey" ==
 
 
If we must, just remember you asked for it. No good will come of this, however...
 
*puts on Busoshoku Haki*
 
 
It could be any number of things really:
 
* [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Forbidden_Words?diff=668660&oldid=668658 this]
 
* [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/File:Kohaku_no_Johei.png?diff=668656&oldid=668651 this]
 
* Any of the recent image uploads from episode 270 and their rationale or have been recently uploaded
 
* [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Ch%C5%8Dza_Akimichi?diff=668622&oldid=668566 this]
 
* Me calling him "child" which at the time was used as colloquialism and would equate to me calling you "nigguh" or "gurlll".
 
 
First to apologise about this again but I suppose you'll find entertainment out of it no?
 
 
Now there's a lot to be said about the whole matter but I won't because I am trying to be civil towards him and [[Forum:Purpose of Image Tags and Characters in image templates ?|for all the good it did]]. I've tried to explain everything I do, but it doesn't seem to register where he is concerned because nothing the user does seems wrong to him (not ever tying to usurp control of the entire wiki) and I can't do anything about that really. But all I can say is that I've tried and the whole situation is tiresome to someone with the emotional depth of a teaspoon, but now [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAlTOfl9F2w this is as much single that can be given any more]. It's supposed to be a simple thing: if the user steps out of line, marshal him. It's what I'd expect any one to do to any other person on the wiki.
 
 
One more thing. If you'd recall to mind the Pakura infobox image fiasco, having rationales that say "Only by an image in Widescreen format (nothing less than 1280x720 accepted) and with the same license format" and the stink that was raised because another user cropped the image, those are the issues I want to avoid. Suppose an image even labelled "720p HD" is cropped down and no longer 720p, then the rationale would either have to be changed or, like with Pakura's image, reuploaded altogether (raising problems either way). Those are the things which can be avoided by simply saying "Low, Medium, High". --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:09, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Decision Time ==
 
{{Quote|No images.}}So your saying I can't upload ?
 
{{Quote|No synopsis.}}I don't even touch the synopsis >_<
 
{{Quote|No editing existing images that other people upload.}}This should really be directed towards Cerez, he is the one who starts the problems with it because I don't start problems: I make a fix and he reverts it for no reason.
 
 
I find this way too harsh. A ban for contributing? I'm trying to contribute and now your telling me I can't. >_> This decision solves nothing, all you have done is make a very threatening decision to ban people if they so much as look at each other's edits and, as I said, this will not solve a single thing. This clearly favours Cerez and is not an unbiased decision in any form. I would appreciate it if the other administrators, including Dantman, would provide me their thoughts on my talkpage because I do not agree to any part of this decision: it's threatening and very condescending and I find it insulting as well as rude. Did you consult any of the other administrators and Dantman to discuss this, or are you just making up your own decisions without consulting anyone else? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:11, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Ok. I'm fine with that. Though I'll have questions to clarify some things.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:51, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
My God this is getting out of hand and tiresome.
 
 
Look here Speysider, I like uploading images and have been told not to do so, I like writing new Synopses so that the homepage is updated quickly and regularly and have been told not to do so. I was planning on even asking questions and decided not to do so either and you don't see me crying foul. The only reason this benefits me is because I'm an all-purpose user, nothing more, the only way Ulti could stop me contributing is nothing short of banning me because of what I edit here. Now you want to have a full fleet of administrators coming down on something as trivial as the nit-picking of two users? Why not go to central and have them oversee the decision as well or maybe get the admins from the other Naruto wikis to chime in?
 
 
I don't know about you but I have a whole lot of shame and would rather not escalate this any further. As you've said before I hate you, when in fact I don't mind you at all, so how about we expand on that and make our own compromise and see whether or not Ultimate accepts it oui? Since you contribute mainly in the images section, you do your thing there, and i'll not mind you. If you want to tag every image from 0.1p-1080p S/HD or with widescreen and whatever else tags you want go right ahead. I realise now that I'm way too grown to be keeping up this foolishness with you on a day to day basis and at least, promise from this point onwards, to respect the contributions you make and let them alone. Sounds fair enough? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]
 
 
:Finally! Someone willing to compromise!--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:29, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::@Cerez: I had typed up a big long speel but because '''someone''' chose to delete this talkpage, I can't remember what I said. I'll just say that all I wanted from you is for you to say exactly what you have just proposed. So I'm going to accept your proposal because I don't want any more fighting, but I won't hesitate to drop a line to Dantman or any other administrator if you break your proposal. Let's put all of this behind us and start anew because you do good work here but I feel this has went out of hand.
 
::@TU3: I got your reply on my talkpage but I need to question this:
 
{{Quote|But the problem area, namely the New Episodes is regrettably forbidden until I say otherwise.}}
 
This wasn't even a problem. The problem was, in general, images. Basically, by your message here, you are telling me I cannot upload a single image from any anime episode, so what's the point of me being here to upload images? You might want to rethink that. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:54, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Technically, I don't have to rethink anything. Nor is it necessary, if you two truly wish to honor this truce. I'll hold both of you to this, and naturally I will be watching. As such, none of your actions will be restricted. Don't disappoint me. /playsSkyrim--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:59, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::Did you read what I said ? What you have told me is both me and Cerez am forbidden from uploading a thing and that is what I wish you to rethink. Cerez uploads images from the manga and the anime and I do not want to stop him doing so and I do not find it fair that we should both be barred from uploading COMPLETELY and let others take control of uploading. From what you have said, this is an infinite ban of the uploader so why not just get the central wiki to make us a new usergroup for those who are not allowed to upload because that is what you are telling me. So yeah, I would like you to rethink what you have said. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:04, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
# I think you've misunderstood what I said Speysider. I am not afraid of the popo, you can call them. Don't take this either as an indication that things such as changing the images you upload won't still be changed for ones more favourable, it's just that in the future, it will have more community involved.
 
# The rest of the conversation, I am lost to so I'll plea the 5th on the basis that it might incriminate me? So am I or am I not restricted from doing stuff before I go back to my Spanish soap operas.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:09, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I probably did and all I wanted was community discussions in images, not people making their own decisions to crop images. An image should, imo, only be cropped if the community thinks it is necessary. Or, we'll just have another repeat of this. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:13, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::I just re-read what TU3 said and he isn't restricting us from doing anything, so might I suggest to you TU3 to go to your original messages to me and Cerez and cross out bits that you originally put so as to avoid confusion ? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 19:10, July 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:::The issue is done Speysider and I'm not doing anything. Let it go.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:23, July 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::::Once you confirm here if we are restricted from doing anything or not (excluding the restriction of not touching each other's edit in a 3 hour window that doesn't include talkpages and forum posts), then I will let it go :) I would like to be absolutely sure of where the situation is before doing anything. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 21:31, July 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
By the Titans boy, did you actually read this entire thing, or do you just enjoy controversy for the sake of it? I have said, quite plainly, that as long as you and Cerez hold to your truce, there is no restrictions. Don't trade one stupid feud with another. Don't even respond to this, the issue is '''closed.'''--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:43, July 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Operation: Imagedawn==
 
What's it about? —<span style="text-shadow: 0px 1px 2px #000;">'''''[[User:White Flash|<span style="color:#000; font-family: Papyrus;">White</span>]] [[User talk:White Flash|<span style="color:#000; font-family: Papyrus;">Flash</span>]]'''''</span> 10:53, July 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Signatures: Important? ==
 
this is Kunoichi101, there's something i want to ask. signatures are important, yes? if so, then look at the signature forum i created because one of them left me a message "without" a signature on my talk page. i don't like users who never use signatures before. <.< [[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 05:13, July 25, 2012 (UTC)Kunoichi101
 
 
== Thank You==
 
Thank you, thank you VERY much for ending this annoying problem with admins on Hinata's appearance. I have managed a LOT of wikis over the years, and I can tell you this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.
 
 
This problem with stingy/over powered admins on this wiki I have multiple complaints about so I thank you for stepping up and ending this stupidity.
 
--[[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 17:18, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: [[:File:Pein Rikudō.png]] ==
 
I put in Pein Rikudo just so it looks better and so people can see the Romaji name. Again, there is no rationale standard so there isn't exactly anything wrong with it :/ --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 11:50, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:It's not dumb, it just makes the rationale look better imo. I've done the very same thing in loads of other places on other images I've uploaded and there's been no issue there. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:01, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::Well, it's not exactly doing any harm imo. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:08, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Same with linking to Edo Tensei. Most people know the technique as Edo Tensei. Now I feel harassed: first it was Cerez messing with the rationale's on my images (which we have agreed on) and now I've got you doing it. Can't anyone just leave my edits alone ... --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 19:29, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:It's not a pointless redirect. It's perfectly valid. Also I only get attached to the edits when people like you start dictating your opinion for no reason whatsoever. There is nothing wrong whatsoever with using <nowiki>[[</nowiki>Edo Tensei]] in the rationale. If you think it's pointless, fine but don't bring your opinion into something. It's starting to become annoying. Keep your opinions about what I put in rationale's out of what you are supposed to be doing, which is not stalking whatever I do reverting them. =.= Not one other user seems to give a damn about it, but you. Why does that not surprise me in the slightest ? You want to put your nose in a lot of things that really aren't a problem just to generate problems. IIRC, the link for Edo Tensei exists on OTHER USER'S UPLOADS AND IN THEIR RATIONALE and there is no problem there. Me thinks you are trying to be a nuisance to me. Nobody else cares and it's very annoying when I have opinionated edits made for no reason at all. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 21:50, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Sorry for stepping into conversation, but I don't see any problem with it either.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:47, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Ultimate, you might be an admin, but:
 
* Is it against rules?
 
* Does it make any harm?
 
I don't think there's anything bad. As he said, the majority refer to some techniques in their Japanese form.
 
It's easier to type Edo Tensei than "Impure world resurrection/reincarnation" IF the only redirect would be in it's Japanese form, only then it would be a problem.
 
Not to mention it's not just English-speaking fans/visitors that come to this site.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:56, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:What Elveonora said is quite true. It does no harm at all. And the way I write the links is so that the page displays the Romaji but links to the actual named article anyway. Nothing that I am doing breaks any one of the rules, so stop making them up as you go along to piss people off. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:01, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
* "But that's not an excuse to have things formatted differently across the Wiki"
 
* "But this is an English Language wiki. We have established guidelines on what get's translated, and what doesn't. Impure World Reincarnation falls into the translated"
 
 
That's true, things like "Rasengan" aren't being translated. BUT if that's the case, why not to make an exception for Edo Tensei as the majority refers to it as such, as well?
 
I don't watch the English anime, so I have no idea (there might be the problem) but do they say: "Summoning: Impure World Resurrection Technique!!!" ?
 
True it's weird to have part of the wiki one way and the rest the other... it's really not an issue though when people know what a term does refer to.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:11, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
@Elveonora: They call it "Summoning Jutsu: Reanimation" in the English Dub and "Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei" in the Sub. Edo Tensei is what everyone knows it by so I don't see the issue at hand here. Almost everyone I know calls the technique Edo Tensei, so I'm pretty sure any user who comes here is going to know what it means. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:14, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:TheUltimate3, can you please stop putting words in my mouth? Also that naming policy is for ARTICLES, NOT IMAGES! Jesus Christ. Everything you are saying is making you look like a total moron who makes up rules and policies and takes them out of context when he feels like it. There is NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT I AM DOING, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS MAKING A DAMNED ISSUE OUT OF IT FOR NO APPARENT REASON! You are the most annoying admin here and I really wish you would just stop abusing your position. NOBODY ELSE, NOT EVEN CEREZ, CARES HOW THEY LINK TO PAGES IN A RATIONALE! --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:18, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
{{Quote|Then by all means, be wrong. I don't care. Wave your banner in clear defiance!}}
 
Problem with you is, you think everyone's wrong. In this case, the only person who's wrong is you. Your the one who is being defiant. You have also misinterpreted that Naming policy because I'm 100% sure that is intended for articles and not for anything to do with images or their rationales.
 
 
{{Quote|Getting pissy doesn't mean your edits golden nuggets that are free from being altered. It's about time you stop acting like a child and accept that}}I'm not acting like a child, I'm trying to defend myself from your opinionated edits that make no sense and are not needed. If you want, I can go straight to Dantman and ask him to tell you how stupid you are being. How does that sound? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:39, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Image stalking :/ ==
 
Please stop stalking every edit I do to images. It's becoming a nuisance if I can't be allowed to do anything without having them reverted for no apparent reason. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:27, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
{{Quote|1) I'm not stalking your images.}}You kinda are by changing things only you seem to have a problem with. Elveonora said above that he doesn't see any issue with it.
 
{{Quote|2) I've already told you, if I see inconsistency, I will change it. I'm not however going to dive into the image sea looking for them. If I happen to stumble across them, I will make the edit.}}Problem is, your the only one doing it, so that makes you a stalker.
 
{{Quote|Lets take a good look at how 1 and 2 are related. You have, in the past 3 to 4 months, made overwhelmingly made the most uploads of any one user.}}So? Funny how you don't mention Cerez either, when he was doing it long before I was here =.=
 
{{Quote|I'm not stalking your uploads, you threw a million of them at me and told me to dodge them}}Because I don't like you. You keep stalking my edits and reverting them when nobody else has an issue. I would appreciate it if you could get off my back and just stop getting involved with everything I do now. It's a burden. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:16, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I'm going to respectfully ask that you stop mentioning me in every discussion you have ok? I'm getting a bit exasperated at the fact that everything you have an issue with you mention me. Argue on your own merit and not what I do or do not do because I know for a fact that I'm way too lazy to be covering a linked name with the romaji name in a simple description.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:26, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I wasn't even referring to you in that way. I was simply pointing out that TU3 is quite wrong to say I've made the most uploads since you were also making lots of anime uploads as well and that he never complained when you did it before and that he's only complaining because I'm involved. It wasn't directed at you in any way, I was merely making an example. =.= --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:44, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::It doesn't matter which manner you were referring to me in, stop using me as a benchmark because the undertone you're trying to set that Ulti is playing favourites— whether intentional or no, is becoming painfully apparent. Just leave me out of it altogether because as i've said, I'm way too lazy to do <nowiki>[[Wind Release: Dust Cloud Technique|Fūton: Fūjin no Jutsu]]</nowiki> that with any image.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:04, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:::Nobody is asking you to do that and nor would I even ask you to do it. I'm choosing to do it on my images because I want to and since your not touching my images, I think others should do the very same --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:07, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::::That is not the issue here, nor my concern. I've asked you already to stop using me as a benchmark, that's all I have to say.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:15, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I would like both of you to not use my Talk Page to talk amongst yourselves >.> Cerez, don't get involved unless dragged in stupidly. Speysider, don't use Cerez for...whatever point you were trying to make. I've already told you I don't care who uploads what. If I see something I'm going to change it. And thats nice that Elveonora doesn't have a problem with it. I however do, as it shows a lack of consistency.--17:27, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I'll only listen to you on the last point if you and ALL of the administrators get together on Skype and make a decision. I'm not going to listen to you because it sounds like it's just your opinion. Dantman did not state anything about what we discussed yesterday to do with images, as he was under the impression it was article links. So, I'm just going to keep doing what I do until some person makes a policy after '''discussing it with every other admin'''. Renegade admins annoy me when they do their own thing without consulting others >_> --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:29, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Do you purposely not listen to what other people or do you not just care when they don't agree with you? The naming policy was made by many users years ago. Keeping things consistent across the wiki is not only common sense, but also made by many users years ago. It's asinine for someone to even '''''assume''''' consistency should take a backseat just because of where it is. Goddamnnit man, use your common sense. I want consistency. I don't want things labeled different just because someone thinks he's being oh so clever (and I'm not talking about u. I'm talking about every anon that I've had the misfortune to monitor since I made keeping the Wiki consistent, vandal free, and orderly as my primary function). Renegade admins annoy you. Cool. People with delusions of grandeur do it for me.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:38, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Also, reread what Dantman wrote.
 
{{Quote|1)So when someone comes along and just edits the image page to clean it up and make the links conform to our naming policy for whatever reason. Since it follows a policy we're enforcing elsewhere, improves the consistency of the wiki whether we are enforcing consistency or not, and you have no ownership over the page. You have no right to object to people going and cleaning up image pages to fit the naming policy.}}
 
:::I have just as much right to edit the image pages as you do. Except I have a leg to stand on (consistency) compared to you (i like X better).--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:41, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== cool site ==
 
 
Apologies for the caps and multi messaging. Good to know it's a bug too.{{unsigned|Mikesec256}}
 
 
== Kusanagi - Oro edit ==
 
 
Orochimaru's body got sealed, not him. Kishimoto wouldn't draw random generic snakes moving around and getting killed, panel space can be saved for more important things. It was obviously Orochimaru burnt by Amaterasu, he wouldn't come out of Anko if he was in Totsuka Sword--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 01:41, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
The sword is stated to seal anything for all eternity, Orochimaru has obviously escaped it with only his body sucked in, his soul stayed in the "impure world" and even was watching from inside Anko since then all along. Again, the escaping snakes were obviously Orochimaru that was burnt. There aren't 2 Orochimarus, one in Totsuka and the other now walking around.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:33, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
* his chakra = consciousness
 
* he didn't do the same with Sasuke, the latter absorbed his soul
 
* there's no sealed Orochimaru
 
* every living being has only 1 soul, there can't be 2 same people with one around and other revived
 
* Nagato said that to ease Naruto, the same in Kushina's case
 
* the snakes escaping and getting killed were obviously obvious, not drawn for fun
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:07, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== New Wikia Skin ==
 
 
[http://us6.memecdn.com/Welcome-to-the-Dark-Side_o_64197.jpg Lulsicle].--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:36, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Enough ==
 
{{Quote|Now the file name for that one is perfectly fine, and (logically) not a page that needs a move which would appear to be simply that it is in English. Now with that being said, the final decision here lies with Jacce as it is his decision to follow up on the Request.}}It's not just because it's English: naming technique images in Romaji is shorter. See the examples I gave to Cerez to show the major difference naming something in Romaji has over naming it in English. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:10, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I know, I'm just responding to your statement that you made, because I do have every valid right to request Jacce to move pages and/or files. Cerez isn't the arbitrator of Jacce's requests :/ --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:17, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Delete ==
 
 
Can you please delete the redirect which you left while moving [[:File:539263-161757812.jpg|this image]]. {{User:UltimateSupreme/Sig}} 12:18, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Obito Uchiha ==
 
Thank you, for protecting the Obito page, the user that kept changing Tobi to Obito was really getting on my nerves. I ask if you can check the page for any changes the user had made.--[[User:Droidkaju|Droidkaju]] ([[User talk:Droidkaju|talk]]) 23:04, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Okay, since this user keeps on changing everything and i have to revert everything back, can you keep the page protected temporarily.--[[User:Droidkaju|Droidkaju]] ([[User talk:Droidkaju|talk]]) 02:57, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
----
 
 
Hi, just a question. Shouldn't we change it from Tobi to Obito, since we all know it has been revealed. Droidkaju insisted on still using the Tobi codename. ~[[User:IndxcvNovelist|IndxcvNovelist]] <sup>([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/IndxcvNovelist|contribs]] | [[w:c:phoenixrising|PR]] | [[w:c:rockleespinoff|RLS]])</sup> 21:43, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Naruto Uzumaki page==
 
There's something wrong with the Naruto Uzumaki page. {{User:Lelouch Di Britannia/Sig2}} 10:58, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Tense in episode articles ==
 
 
I noticed the [[Narutopedia:Writing policy]] says that articles should be in past tense, but it looks like the most recent episode recap pages are in the present tense. Personally, I like it in the present tense, but I'm asking because I recently cleaned up the [[The End of Tears]] page and in the process switched everything to present tense having seen the newer pages. Let me know if this was a mistake, and I'll fix it. Related question: Was my page edit appropriate? If I modified too much without using the talk page, let me know. I'm still getting a feel for the editing etiquette. Thanks! [[User:Meganeko317|Meganeko317]] ([[User talk:Meganeko317|talk]]) 03:22, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Apologies ==
 
Sorry for my trouble and nonsense editing and stuff, if i have a problem i will consult it with you.
 
 
Obito was 13 before the current timeline of Naruto, in Part I he would have been 26-27 years old. [[User:XImmortalAresX|XImmortalAresX]] ([[User talk:XImmortalAresX|talk]]) 15:11, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Relationships page ==
 
 
Very sorry about that! It's been a long while that I just forgot. ^_^; Well I already asked Jacce about the issue, but if you can do it before Jacce can, that will be great! [[User:KazeKitsune|KazeKitsune]] ([[User talk:KazeKitsune|talk]]) 23:02, September 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Permission ==
 
 
Where can I get permission to edit certain articles like Naruto or Sasuke?--[[User:Itachi7000|Itachi7000]] ([[User talk:Itachi7000|talk]]) 23:13, October 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Hi Ultimate this is 6paths here again, thanks for the welcome message, I was wondering if i can have authority to edit articles, I follow what is going on here correctly so if you want another editor, I'm available :) --[[User:Naruto6paths|Naruto6paths]] ([[User talk:Naruto6paths|talk]]) 18:36, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Ok, thanks for the feedback, I'll get to work. --[[User:Naruto6paths|Naruto6paths]] ([[User talk:Naruto6paths|talk]]) 19:44, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== TheUltimate3 Sensei ==
 
 
Thank you admin TheUltimate3 sensei ^_^
 
I have something slightly trivial to ask that's really making me wonder and maybe you know and maybe you don't, I just want to know whether or not you know which anime episode Madara is supposed to debut in(as Edo Tensei of course). It's most likely you don't know the exact episode, but I don't read the manga much and maybe someone who does can calculate chapters into episodes. Whether you know or not, I appreciate your answer! [[Special:Contributions/165.138.142.66|165.138.142.66]] ([[User talk:165.138.142.66|talk]]) 13:36, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: English variant ==
 
 
Oh lawdy. I didn't see that o.o" --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:39, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I'd say there's going to be an uprising but, I dunno. Seems like something we'd all just have to go with. I'm fine with either all the same.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:11, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Broken Lists ==
 
Listen, I'm not sure if you or anyone else has noticed or if it's just me. Put whenever I go to the 'List of' parts of something that involves a group, be it jutsu, people, etc, it comes up as Database Error. I'm putting these up so that people can do their searching quickly. And as soon as the originals are fixed, which I hope is soon, I intend to take the ones I put up down.
 
 
--[[User:YoukoTaichou|YoukoTaichou]] ([[User talk:YoukoTaichou|talk]]) 00:03, November 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Meh, it wasn't unexpected, I just thought that after a couple of months, people would like to have quick links to particular types of moves.
 
So is it alright to re-add the jutsu that only involve a clone in an attack like Lightning Transmission, Clone Great Explosion, etc as Clone Techniques? Or is the offer only for the 'List of' parts?
 
 
Actually, if you think about it, attacks that involve clones in an attack, like Lightning Transmission or Naruto Uzumaki Combo, could be considered Collaboration Jutsu in a sense. Though that might be pushing it.
 
 
Also, would you mind spreading around my reason for doing what I'm doing to the big editors so that they don't undo my work?
 
--[[User:YoukoTaichou|YoukoTaichou]] ([[User talk:YoukoTaichou|talk]]) 01:19, November 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Just making sure. Most jutsu like those are listed under the Derived Jutsu list in Shadow Clone Jutsu anyway.
 
 
So I got the okay for the 'List-of' alternate links then?
 
 
Anyway, would you mind spreading the word, I'd really appreciate it; I don't really know who the 'bosses' of this wikia are.
 
In exchange I'll send you a youtube link to a vid that will make you die laughing.
 
 
--[[User:YoukoTaichou|YoukoTaichou]] ([[User talk:YoukoTaichou|talk]]) 02:00, November 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== deleted topic ==
 
 
Why? It's completely valid... you didn't even put up a reason--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:13, November 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
The Anko one. It was brought up before but never concluded. In my opinion, canon/filler should have been separated for a long while already... sounds like lots of work, I know. Many manga/databook references can be provided that prove the sea arc to be incorrect. Basically the animator gave Anko a false background which contradicts with facts--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 02:35, November 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== What can I do? ==
 
 
What can I do to improve this wiki? [[User:Randomfvideos|Randomfvideos]] ([[User talk:Randomfvideos|talk]]) 01:08, November 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Scissor Pincers ==
 
Yes it is. While your at it, take away my rollback status because I don't want anything to do with this site, thanks largely in part to Cerez flaming me because he didn't like me tagging a page that has literally nothing important on it on the wiki. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 23:13, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== The "other wiki" ==
 
 
Gladimir, c'est moi Shirley. This is my last communicã as it is no longer safe ''at that place''. Hide yourself and wait for the signal mon ami.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:07, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Lul. Roundabout way of asking if you've seen the revived [[http://naruto.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_Answers answers wikia]. Also, take your medicine :/ --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:30, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
'[[Forum:Answers_Wiki|Cause we asked nicely]], and no-one seemed against it._.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:49, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Archives ==
 
 
I remember you saying that you use monobook. Does the script for lowering priority of editing archives affect monobbok in any way? I tried <code>?useskin=monobook</code> and I didn't see any change. Just thought of asking you.— {{User:UltimateSupreme/SigCode|16:10 UTC|Tuesday|18 December 2012}}
 
:Fine... Well, I read somewhere that the {{Tlx|ArchiveList}} doesnot work properly sometimes. Do you know anything about it?— {{User:UltimateSupreme/SigCode|16:23 UTC|Tuesday|18 December 2012}}
 
 
== Partner panel ==
 
 
I thought the partner panel is not just for Akatsuki, as I see [[J]] and [[J's Partner|his partner]], [[Killer B]] and [[A]], and etc. [[User:Yatanogarasu|Yatanogarasu]] ([[User_talk:Yatanogarasu|Talk]]) 23:33, December 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Hinata's lovely speech in the most recent chapter ==
 
 
I don't know, it's a bit too much, maybe. Are you looking for something specific? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:23, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Protect Site ==
 
 
Can you please [[Special:ProtectSite|ProtectSite]]?''' ~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:black;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 16:12, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:There's no reason to protect the site. There's no mass vandalism or anything that would require a site lockdown. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:47, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::Kinda. There's this vandal whose vandalism is quite distinctive. He or she erases a lot of info from articles, replacing some stuff with gibberish, and some with texts like "Great job, I never thought of it like that" or "Thanks for the answer, it all makes sense now". He or she can change their IP address across many ranges, most likely using some sort of proxy. While range-blocks can work sometimes, for example, 220.255.xxx.xxx IPs are quite common to be range-blocked here, this vandal requires a more far-reaching block. They're at it at the moment, and it's not the first time. They've been more disruptive in the past but simply blocking each IP they use is pointless, because they readily discard it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:56, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:::Oh. I haven't noticed that lately though... --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:58, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::::Any more questions :P?
 
::::Thats a typical spambot behaviour.''' ~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:black;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 06:16, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I do think we need a bit more protection. Seems like the wikia has just been left bare for vandals to have their way with it. Except that we have good editors and such.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:27, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Omnibender already did it.''' ~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:black;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 12:04, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::Gonna be honest, after my comment I spent most of yesterday bedridden sick. Sorry about not responding.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:56, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Please ==
 
Please activate chat in your wiki! It's a request.{{unsigned|Sasuke The Destructor}}
 
:The answer to that will be a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-MSqnoGXhs <insert answer>] we're not an online board, we're an encyclopaedia.--[[User:White_Flash|White Flash]] <sup>([[User talk:White_Flash|Contact]])</sup> 16:24, January 16, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Cumbersome articles Edit

Tabs and drop downs? Do you mean like the Zetsu article? And can you please provide me some examples of "troublesome articles" as you mentioned? As for long articles: While I do understand that popular characters such as Naruto, Sasuke, and the like are demanded to have the most detail, pages such as these have rather slow loading times as compared to other articles. You are correct that unfortunately, users do feel the need to further stuff already long articles with pictures and such. --WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 00:38, January 13, 2015 (UTC)

I'm optimistic that Kakashi and Sasuke can get under 100k. Which is still long, I guess, but a dramatic improvement. Sasuke's is currently 155K, yet about 45k of that is just the summary of events of chapters 580-700. Just the summary. As in, not counting whatever Personality and Abilities also happens in that time frame. Hell, his second-to-last quote is about 1.5k on its own. You take a generous axe to these two things and Sasuke's article becomes about the same size as Sakura's currently is.
Naruto's is a problem, though. Always will be. But I disagree with tabs or whatever else on principle. ~SnapperTo 01:00, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Even if the scrolling function were implemented, users could still edit it out, whether intentionally or unintentionally, just to place further additions to the long pages. An issue indeed. I do feel that edits like this, while in good-faith, further add more to the problem. It may be a minor edit, but let us say a thousand more users do those "minor edits" and that's part of what makes articles so long. A solution for this may indeed be... difficult to find, whether it be tabs, scrolling, taking out pictures, etc. An attempt to shorten Naruto's article was to take out the anime only arcs altogether as well, though that has not been too effective over the long-term...
--WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 01:04, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
First things first the content needs to be compressed, if I had my way. Naruto vs Sasuke's last fight was 4 paragraphs, and goes on to detail just about every move the two of them did. The rest of the article is just as stupid and this is repeated on just about every character's articles. None of that is needed. If we can do that, and make sure that actually sticks however would be a great benefit.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 01:17, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
I wholeheartedly agree. Naruto and Sasuke's second battle at the Valley of the End is the reason why I brought up this issue. For instance, in both of Naruto and Sasuke's articles, and I say this due to lack of better phraseology, they have been stuffed with every move they made in that fight and users are adding way too much stuff on top of that. Those "summaries" essentially cover every muscular movement Naruto and Sasuke seem to make towards each other. Also, users tend to have a fixation for the colored manga images and proceed to insert too many of them within articles describing Naruto and Sasuke's final fight. It is all quite unnecessary from my standpoint, and has to be shortened in some manner as a first step. Though, as SnapperTwo notified me on my talkpage, removing such images will only cause users to insert them back into the article. Another step taken was shortening introductions in various articles due to them having too much content to fulfill the purpose of them being simple summaries, though we have had to deal with users wanting to unnecessarily revise our contributions i.e., users adding more descriptions (and possibly spoiler content), links in the introductions, and so on. --WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 01:38, January 13, 2015 (UTC)

Continuing this conversation, I have noticed that in Naruto and Sasuke's articles, summaries that potentially lead to anime-only arcs have been removed. For instance, this in Naruto's article and this in Sasuke's (which is understandable). To further thin articles like these (such as Kakashi's, Sakura's, etc), would it not be valid to remove any paragraphs that sequentially start out with "In the anime, this happened" and attempt to leave links to them (if possible) to keep the consistency and further thin these articles? -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 16:46, January 16, 2015 (UTC)

^Never mind that, TheUltimateThree. We will find other ways to shorten long pages. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 00:12, January 17, 2015 (UTC)


Well then... Edit

Those big bold letters on your user pages has me like... ಠ_ಠ Gotten quite tired of chat, have you not? And is there a User Banhammer template, or you just created that red link to annoy you-know-who? -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 21:32, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

Star Wars Edit

Hey, I saw you like Star Wars' version of canon, and I gotta ask you - what do you think about what happened to the EU on April 25, 2014? Do you hate it or like it (please say you hate it)? Gemnist (talk) 00:26, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Gemnist

THANK YOU!!! My optimistic guess is though: this is just a scam meant to avoid any plot details on the sequel trilogy, and soon everything that happened pre-Episode VI will be considered - by 2019 - and then the "Legends" covers will become collectible-level. All in a day's work to maintain a brand name. I was really hoping, though, that they're all one single universe. Gemnist (talk) 04:26, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Gemnist
Not sure if I explained myself well. I meant everything BEFORE Return of the Jedi, not after. After, we'll have to wait and see - unfortunately. Gemnist (talk) 16:39, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Gemnist

Scuffle: SuperSajuuk Edit

Not to be rude, but I don't think you've really read it in context. And no, as a forum operator, it is my duty to moderate the forums, I am not going to just ignore Seelentau or I will be accused of "not doing my job". If he wants me to stop getting on my case, he does not need to resort to flames and abusive behaviour. If you hadn't noticed, I have not flamed him, swore at him, nor even used "Ad Hominem" towards him, yet somehow I'm in the wrong for being friendly and polite?

I would advise you contact other sysops and ask them to assess the situation, it feels incredibly biased in favour of letting Tau use his sysop flag as a way to get whatever he wants or be abusive to users for no reason. So Tau saying things like "I'm a failure of a moderator" and "I'm bitter for him being sysop" is not trolling behaviour? Good to know, I'll just be forwarding all of this to Wikia Staff as it seems like it's painfully obvious Dantman is too busy to care or notice his sysops going around contravening TOU: unlike what you claim, the TOU gets to override the wiki's local policies at any time, so they'll be agreeing with me as well on this matter. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 14:33, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

I have spoken to users on Central Wiki, including VSTF, who agree fully with me that Tau's behaviour is abusive. Telling Tau he can continue this not only damages the wiki's reputation, but is 100% contravening Wikia TOU, which you seem to not care for. Do you want to lose your rights as well for encouraging inappropriate and abusive behaviour? Your messages to me and Tau are being included in evidence which I am sending to Wikia for their involvement in this situation, as it seems you cannot keep yourself from encouraging everyone else to be as crass and as abusive as they want to me. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 15:20, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
The email hasn't been sent yet, I'm working on gathering evidence. I'll be including evidence of other sysops encouraging the behaviour in said email, so your message to Tau will be included. Even when I send it, I won't be making any screen captures of private conversations with Wikia Staff to the public. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 15:27, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
And no, you won't start removing my posts either. So you can desist that behaviour as well. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 15:30, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
You do not need to blank the replies. You can copy/paste from the source to a Notepad document and leave the replies as they should be. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 15:33, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
He did not break forum policy in any way. Saying just "owned" is not making a swipe at anyone, but writing messages like Seelentau did is making a clear swipe at someone and is a personal attack. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 15:42, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

Scuffle: Seelentau Edit

Sorry if all this means any extra work for you. Wasn't my intention. But no, I'm not gonna change my ways. SuperSajuuk is a danger to this wiki and should be dealt with accordingly. It's simply not right that a normal user has all rights a sysop has, even though he was deemed unfit to be a sysop. I don't care about my own rank, as I said, but since you have way more experience in this, you should talk to Dantman. I tried and he didn't respond, so yeah. Please do something. • Seelentau 愛 17:11, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

I doubt that he'll ever change his behaviour as long as he isn't a sysop himself. And only the devil knows what he'll do then. • Seelentau 愛 17:20, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

six paths sage mode Edit

hey mate...a user named kuroiraikou keeps changine the six paths sage mode article...& the small one in the six paths sage tech...wanted to talk him out of doing it but then thought U can be more effective... --DARK ZERO--talk 09:58, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

re: moval Edit

Meh. I do not really feel the need to ask and wait, wait, wait for it to work. I will just be doing it manually in the meantime until I eventually get tired, and probably then I will ask for a bot.
-- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 23:34, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Character Pages Edit

Oh ok I understand it makes since now. Thanks for the help. AllstarUchiha (talk) 01:11, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

tailed beast genders Edit

Question: why did you remove them?--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 23:00, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

It didn't say they don't, either. This was discussed on the talkpage. Gyuki is a bull for example and bulls are male.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 23:39, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Tenseigan: Scattering Truth-Seeking BallsEdit

Why did you revert the rename? Unless you can think of a name that includes Tenseigan and Truth-Seeking Ball AND that hints that there are multiple of those balls, rename appropriately. Not to be angry or anything, but you are reverting renames for no apparent reason.--Omojuze (talk) 13:03, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

Plus, even though the name is longer, it perfectly captures what is happening in the technique. Unlike the previous name, an that what unnamed techniques should do.--Omojuze (talk) 13:04, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
He did in fact used black spheres. It shows that you haven't seen the movie yet. He even used 'em like a shield, similarly to Obito. In his normal spheres, he didn't use the truth-seeking balls.--Omojuze (talk) 14:42, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
a) I am not the one who created the page. b) The movie is already in the theaters, so there is a way to watch it without piracy. c) Nobody suggested you looking yourself. d) I am not accusing you of anything >.<--Omojuze (talk) 15:06, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
Question: Then WHY do edits on material when you have no idea what happened/is happening?--Omojuze (talk) 15:21, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
I saw that. There is no way I could've known the difference, 'cause, as Suzaku said, they look exactly the same. Well, the original creator provided proof in the form of a link to a Youtube video where the entire movie is shown in 4 parts, so...--Omojuze (talk) 15:30, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
does this please 'ya now?--Omojuze (talk) 16:04, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

Impressive Edit

Congratulations. You are the sole user that has received at least 20 kudos on one comment. I guess people really like you and your opinions. (Not much of an honor, I know, but it was something I just happened to notice.) -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 02:48, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Congrats TU3, that is indeed something. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 02:51, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Location/Village infoboxes Edit

Hey I just started a discussion of a possibility to integrate infoboxes for locations and or villages and I was wondering what you think of it. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 20:43, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

Founder of Narutopedia Edit

Thanks Sasuke79 (talk) 17:53, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

KKM Edit

Okay, so you just classified the Byakugan as a KKM due to Kaguya only being listed as a KKM user, making all of Kaguya's techniques KKM. Since Hagoromo is the same case as his mother, only being listed as a KKM and not a KKG user and thereby his Rinnegan is a KKM too, wouldn't that mean his TSB (and the rest of his techniques) are KKM as well? -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 21:58, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Well, as I said, it only listed Hagoromo as a KKM user and not a KKG user. And you're right, we don't have bloody clue what it is. But yeah, doesn't him being listed as only a KKM user mean anything? I think it does mean that all of his techniques are KKM, being listed as one and all... -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 22:09, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Thread:162690 Edit

Considering this comment you made, may I have your opinion in this thread?
-- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 23:23, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

Tenseigan (Energy Vessel) Edit

TheUltimateThree, it was referred to as the Tenseigan as well in the movie, not the "Energy Vessel." And "Tenseigan (Energy Vessel)" is distinguishable enough. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 23:57, February 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Naruto's Six Paths Sage Mode Edit

I really don't want to be involved in that guy's antics. What do you want to know? The databook article doesn't mention the tailed beasts at all, it just says that it's a gift from the Rikudo Sennin. Also, he was in that mode when he kicked the Gudodama, not in normal Sage Mode or in Kurama Mode, if that's of importance. • Seelentau 愛 15:05, February 12, 2015 (UTC)

Here. And I agree with both of you, I don't even want to dignify that guy's statements with a response.
-- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 15:34, February 12, 2015 (UTC)
Not true. • Seelentau 愛 16:52, February 12, 2015 (UTC)
I have the physical copy and a high quality digital copy, there's no blurry text for me. So yeah, the other one. :D • Seelentau 愛 18:44, February 12, 2015 (UTC)
I did, but I have no idea where else it is mentioned (or where that information came from). • Seelentau 愛 18:57, February 12, 2015 (UTC)

Infobox Pictures Edit

Hi I have another question about character pages. Would it be alright if the info boxes had how they looked in The Last? Because every character page has how they look like in Part 1, Part 2, and rhe Epilogue, but I think a pic of how they looked in The Last should be added because all of them have a different appearance. AllstarUchiha (talk) 23:38, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

WoW Edit

As a fellow Azerothian, I'd like to know your opinion on the overall state of the game as it is now. Do you think of quitting? Or do you enjoy WoD? And how would you rank all the expansions, from best to worst? My ranking goes:

  1. Wrath of The Lich King (The golden age, highest number of subscribers. Northrend is an environmentally stunning continent that has the best lore&story yet with fitting soundtrack accompanying it all, dungeons&raids well designed.)
  2. Mists of Pandaria ("WoW 2.0" essentially, worked out more or less, everything except Pandas was great about it ironically.)
  3. Cataslysm (Epic start, anticlimactic ending expansion. Let's level 10 alts before the novelty wears off.)
  4. The Burning Crusade (There's a group which says TBC > WOTLK, but in my opinion it was a "Let's patch what was wrong with Vanilla and make iconic characters from Warcraft III into villains for no apparent reasons besides the cool factor" expansion.)
  5. Warlords of Draenor (The unfulfilled promises/false marketing expansion.)
  6. Vanilla.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 22:43, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

It's cool, I hope it gets better. And well, that's the thing. The Garrison was great at first but has become a mandatory chore and it killed professions. Who needs herbalism? Everyone has a garden. Who needs mining? Everyone has a mine. Hell primary professions too from followers. Not to mention Enchanting and Jewelcrafting have been greatly reduced to fewer slots and "perks" of Blacksmithing, Tailoring and so on are gone too. Also the only thing gold is for now are Savage Blood and mounts.

Since daily quest hubs have been removed, reputations are a grind... kill 10 000 mobs to get exalted, fun. And that's the thing - you are in the world until you hit 100, but once you do, there's no reasons. Hidden treasures and rares drop equipment inferior to heroic dungeons, raids, invasions and follower missions. So while the experience from 90 to 100 was great, one of the best, there's simply not much to do at 100. The endgame consists of garrison chores, 2 raids. For those who do PvP queuing for Ashran. For those who care about achievements, grinding for reputations with no rewards besides a follower. And optionally pet battles for those who like Pokemon.

Hopefully 6.2 gives me a reason to come back. I had much more fun and more things to do in MoP. And I'm glad you agree about WotLK, I miss it T_T For WoD, even though it has the lore, the actual stories are half-assed. It was obviously rushed so they could launch it in November. What they did with Orgrim has no excuse ._.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 10:36, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

They might as well remove the professions completely at this point, the very few enchants and gems make little difference. Also removing mandatory stats (Hit, Expertise and so on) while adding the new stats makes the removal of Reforging bizarre, it would have been more usable than ever now. For hubs, the only differences between them and no daily hubs is that the former gives you x reason to kill y mobs in location z, while in WoD you aren't told killing which mobs and where gives you reputation for which faction and since there's no quest telling you to do so, there's less volition to partake in such an activity. So the removal of dailies hasn't solved anything only worsened it.

Also I don't get why people hated dailies. Well, some of them I do, but dailies like Cataclysm's Molten Front or Mists of Pandaria's Landfall were superb, some of the best in WoW. The way I see it:

  1. People complain that they "must" do x
  2. Blizzard removes x
  3. People suddenly complain that Blizzard removed the x and that there's nothing to do now

For the rest, don't tell me that by "the best new character of the expac" you mean Joan of Argus.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 12:18, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Now that you talk Draenei and Velen, it was the dumbest idea ever to make him do something in WoD and eventually sacrifice himself. But guess what, it doesn't freaking count, cause it wasn't our Velen, who still does shit but sits in Exodar, but AU past Velen lol. There was really no reason to make another one and let him die if Blizzard ain't gonna do a thing with our Velen, so they might have as well killed him.

And I don't see anything special about Yrel. The best of her character so far has been the hentai pic of her getting pounded by "daddy Blackhand" Originally, she was supposed to be Velen's niece and Maraad's love interest, but Feminists were complaining that "a woman doesn't need no man" so Blizzard scrapped her and Maraad having been in love and possibly her being Velen's niece as well. I hope not though, since it's been suggested that Kil'jaeden is Velen's brother, if that's true, then that would make Yrel Kil'jaeden's daugher, THAT would be some interesting plot development and twist. I hope they go that route.

And I agree. It's one thing listening to your fans, but another to dance according to a minority's command. Blizzard only listens to the loudest, never content always complaining group of nerds.

  • Fat Alliance neckbeard: "Warlords of Draenor is just another Orc Expansion, change that else I'm cancelling my sub!"
  1. "Blizzard reworks Gorground, removes Orgrim Doomhammer's storyline and character development, reduces him to a minute cameo in Talador and shits on his head"
  2. Fat alliance nerd: "Hahaha, there ya go Horde faggets"
  3. Blizzard: "See? We listen to our fans!"
  • But the dumbest one ever was:
  1. "Waa waa waaa, I can play WoW only at night when I can't see the environment and mobs, I'm also an adult who's afraid of the dark, so do something Blizz or else I will crap my underwear and unsubscribe"
  2. Meeting at Blizzard: "We are rapidly losing subs, what do we do? We must act quickly!"
  3. An employee: "(sarcastic remark) I know, lets listen to the crybabies and remove the day/night time cycle, haha..."
  4. Derpy Colleagues: "(taken seriously) Brilliant! We are going to be richer than ever, muhahahaha!"
  • Some months later, nerds cry that the day/night cycle was removed and demand its comeback, threatening with cancellation of their subscription otherwise:
  1. Blizzard responds: "To satisfy both parties, we are bringing nights but only in 1/4 of Azeroth's zones and in 2 Draenor zones!"

--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 15:22, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

I wonder what's up with the forehead thingy he gave her tho. Well, this time around, Varian stayed back on our Azeroth and "you" are essentially supposed to be the hero/commander whoever. The Alliance has more heroes and otherwise than just Varian, though. Tirion Fordring was heavily featured in WotLK, Thrall or rather "Go'el" was heavily featured in Cata (oh wait, he is Horde, or is he?) and hey, in MoP Varian's son Anduin had more appearances than his father, so as you can see, it's not all just about Varian ; D

And dunno, love and revenge for the loss of it are strong motivations, rather than just: "I'm a mere priestess with no combat experience, that can become a top-class Paladin in just a few days with no explanation whatsoever, because I believe in myself." Not to mention I think Maraad deserved better, should have at least gotten some pussy, but nope, he went back into the past from which he had escaped only to get killed by an orc. His should have been a more of a redemption story, because if you have seen Lords of War last episode, he kinda had messed up and lived with regret. Not sure if dying to protect Yrel did him justice, but if they had been in love, maybe it would have more.

And what do you mean by Tyrande? Malfurion was sleeping in the Emerald Dream for thousands of years, she did just fine all that time by herself and was especially badass in Warcraft III. She is no way dependent on him.

Gorground was originally supposed to heavily feature Orgrim Doomhammer and depict his transformation from a bad guy into a good one, but Alliance alpha/beta testers complained about WoD "featuring too many orcs" (duh, it's Draenor biatch) so Gorground got reworked into its current form, plants vs fungi, hence the mess that's Orgrim's short appearance in Talador, after the cut storyline they simply put him there for the sake of it I guess.

And I disagree about MoP being Horde focused. There were Varian and Anduin, LOTS of Jaina as well. Not to mention if freaking escalated with the Alliance raiding Orgrimmar.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 17:05, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

We may continue once I return from my extended walk that I gotta take so I don't become a pig after eating all that meat and candies.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 19:21, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, so my extended walk has run short somewhat, cause I'm lazy. So: Correction, when this is all over, she will be the full on leader of the AU past Draenei, meaning she will be completely irrelevant in the next expansion pack, since we are likely not going to stay in that time and universe, so much for a new Alliance hero. And I know my lore pal. The Argent Crusade is still more Alliance-friendly though, since they kinda hate the Undead. And by this Tirion ain't Alliance logic, Thrall ain't Horde either, since he isn't the Warchief anymore and he is kinda a Human-lover. Talk about Stockholm syndrome.

Gorgrond, there's this piece of trivia [1] it has no reference, but that's what people say on forums, so shrugs.

A few questions:

  1. What do you predict to come after WoD?
  2. What would you do if you were in Blizzard seat?

This was supposed to be much longer but I forgot a half of it.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 20:48, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Draenei aren't the only race which needs progression. When was the last time we've got Gnome, Dwarf lore update or at least characters' stories continuation? In WotLK I believe. And as you mention Worgen... the Worgen, Forsaken and Blood Elves technically aren't even races, so I find it stupid that they are considered as such. The Worgen are mostly Gilnean Humans and Night Elves affected by a Druidic curse, not an actual race, but at least two races using a transformation, so they are more like a faction if anything. Forsaken also are animated mostly Human and High Elven corpses, not a single biological race, not to mention they can't even reproduce, yet another faction considered a race in WoW. And the Blood Elves are High Elves on crack, that's it. They should freaking rejoin the Alliance now that their addiction is no longer an issue. The only reason they stay with the Horde is because Sylvanas introduced them there and for in-game faction balance, Hordes would cry if their only good looking race were to join the Alliance and Forsaken were removed. Lore-wise, Lordaeron should have been long reclaimed.

  1. Flying has been removed with WoD, who visits Stormwind/Orgrimmar or any of Azeroth nowadays anyway? Level 90 boost it is, the old continents are a ghost town.
  2. Talk about it, Stormwind is yet to be completely repaired, doesn't make any sense story-wise, Blizzard is just lazy.
  3. Doubtful they would do such a thing. They don't really care about the lore/story. This is evident with you starting in Cataclysm era (unless you are a Blood Elf or Draenei, in which case you timetravel back even further) then you timetravel back in time once arriving on Outland, then you travel slightly into the Future (but still you are in the past) once arriving on Northrend, then you travel into the time from which you had started and there goes MoP and WoD. Obviously, I get that this can't be completely avoided, but they should update the old stuff at least slightly so it makes more sense. But sure, they aren't gonna remake Pandaria now just because Garrosh is dead, it's still "recent enough" Outland and Northrend on the other hand definitely aren't.
  4. There's a quite recent crackpot "theory" around the WoW forums, that at the end of WoD, our time and universe will either be erased or we won't be able to return back home for some reason, meaning the next expansion would take place on the past AU Azeroth instead, essentially "retconning" everything until WoD outta existence. The level cap would be moved back to 1-60. While very interesting, I doubt Blizzard has balls to do such a thing, not to mention the amount of content they would have both to remove and rework. But if they did it, it would be "WoW 2.0" essentially and lore-wise a semi-reboot (shit happened, but got erased) but there would be no Lich King and all that cool shit and nerds would commit suicide.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 11:15, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
  1. In that case, the next expansion's location would have to take place on Azeroth. Not sure if we want Burning Legion on Azeroth :P Also why just Stormwind? Poor Ironforge, Gnomeregan (yet to be completely reclaimed btw) Darnassus, Exodar and now Gilneas (yet to be reclaimed as well) they are just kinda... there. Same for the Horde's besides Orgrimmar.
  2. Well, this is a huge problem with Warcraft. There are too many stories to tell and WoW is too limited to do it properly. We have Bolvar sitting frozen, doing nothing, will anything ever be done with that? Hence why Warcraft 4 should be a thing.
  3. Obviously they can't update everything to match a single point in time, but it should at least make sense during the questing experience, that CAN be done. Consider that when a character is made as level 1, we play during "year 0" let's say. And essentially as we level up, years go by. In that case, if they fix Draenei starting zones, Blood Elf starting zones, Outland and Northrend, it will all fit.
  4. Makes you question tho what's the freaking point of us doing anything there, since Garrosh is dead, most of the Warlords are dead and the Dark Portal is destroyed, they are no longer a threat to us and we don't owe those people anything. About the crackpot theory, well, level 105 or 110 seems strange, one would have thought that it would be 100 at most and that's it.

About the races you agree I guess? Which races would you add/remove to/from which faction?--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 12:19, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Ugh, offtopic, but I would break necks and cut testicles/ovaries at the moment >_< I have lost 7 matches of Pokemon Showdown in a row, what the hell, is this no luck day or what? Aarrghhh... That would have been okay and all, but the last one was a tie, YET I lost and the other one won, how did the computer decide that I'm the loser even though it was a tie? "The universe conspires against me"--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 13:32, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Pokemon is like chess or a card game, just with more options. The major difference is that there's quite a lot of randomness present in Pokemon, unlike chess or card games which have minimal. On the thing:

  1. In my opinion there are 2 major reasons why the cities are empty. One is that each new expansion's hub has everything in it (all the portals, vendors, trainers etc.) and the second that there are too many realms but not enough players. I'd reduce the number in half at least.
  2. Talking Garrosh, is it just me or is his character kinda inconsistent? I remember in Cata him being angry at Sylvanas for using the plague on innocents and using her Valkyres to raise enemies' corpses into her own army. So I get the vibe that originally, he wasn't intended to be so evil.
  3. We kinda already do that though, with the exceptions of the aforementioned locations. And new isn't always good either, viz MoP. Blizzard tried to do WoW 2.0 with it and most refused it cause "Kung-Fu Panda lol"
  4. Thing is, they can't hurt anyone anymore but themselves, their portals are destroyed and most of their forces have been killed. It would take many years before they could attempt another assault on our or AU past Azeroth. Well, I guess Gul'dan needs to die so AU Medivh doesn't contact him and all.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 14:39, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

reporting bad edit Edit

Per my request and discussion on the requests page, here is one of Kunoichi's pointless edits. There's probably more that were done recently, but that one caught my eye. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 10:12, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

The reason for that policy being added was based on Simant telling Kunoichi101 off for removing the trailing comma from the end of infobox lists, because it does nothing to improve the article and just adds a pointless revision for people to see (those commas will keep coming back due to semantic forms, so the edit to remove them is pointless). In that case, she continued to remove the comma despite being told to stop at least 3 times by Simant, so I decided to add a clear policy of "don't make edits that don't change the appearance of the page" to build on things ranging from removing the underscores, adding/removing spaces and fixing headings.
The problem is that, you can make these kind of "unseen" edits as part of another edit (like expanding an article), but Kunoichi is just going into pages and making only edits that nobody is going to see reflected on the page, she doesn't actually contribute anything to expanding the wiki's content in terms of expanding stubs or uploading images: her edits are primarily minor and bordering on obsessive in nature.
But I'll continue to report bad edits as and when they happen. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 13:39, March 14, 2015 (UTC)
And I'm just gonna ask out loud, when did I say to stop letting me know when Kunoichi101 did something that pissed you off?
I eventually got bored of all the bad edits that I just stopped bothering to report them, since it was basically equating to every edit she made. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 10:44, April 14, 2015 (UTC)

Talk page formattingEdit

Is fromatting talk pages not allowed or something cause it appears to get sajuuk pretty butt-hurt. Munchvtec (talk) 15:53, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

alright thanks. i don't really think ive edited a old one in a long while so i wont. thanks again. Munchvtec (talk) 16:06, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

Chakra Edit

If you would be so inclined... would you weigh in on this discussion? Some guy needs help learning the concept of chakra... Would like your opinion, personally...
WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 02:32, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Serious Question Edit

I'll just quote the Manual of Style:

Do not make edits that do absolutely nothing to change the appearance of the page when it is rendered, such as adding or removing a space between paragraphs, adding underscores in spaces when including an image onto an article, or removing unused parameters from infobox templates. This does nothing except add pointless edit revisions to the page history and does not improve the wiki.
Do not go adding last names to links unless you have a valid reason to do so (full character name hasn't been used earlier in the article). Full names should not be abused to bypass redirects.
Do not change page numbers in ref tags to have a leading zero. Going around the wiki and changing 3 to 03 despite most pages sticking to 3 doesn't improve the wiki at all and just adds pointless edits, just stick with 3.

Those are full definitions of pointless edits, especially the first one, which (while you considered to be fine) Kunoichi101 regularly violates with her edits. Two other types of pointless edit include:

Reverting something just because another editor did so, for the sake of "I just want to click the undo button".
"Stating the obvious" (aka stating something that a viewer can already determine without it being spelled, either because it's mentioned elsewhere on the page, or because they already know what it is referring to). An example of this type of edit would be stating that a trivia point is mentioned in the episode on an episode article (eg "As mentioned in the episode, X means Y" on a page that summarises the episode).

Very rarely (and I put heavy emphasis on that), she makes a minor edit that is actually good (such as correcting poor spelling), but the vast majority of her edits are those which do nothing to change the page's appearances and Simant regularly told her to stop those edits. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 18:11, April 14, 2015 (UTC)

That will take time so you won't be able to get a reply for that for a few days. But you can start by looking at the contributions and comparing at least the first page of "mainspace" only edits on her contributions list. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 18:43, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
Apologies, I'm gonna be quite busy, both with other wiki's and irl, so I won't be able to fulfil your request for examples of pointless edits. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 16:22, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

Protection Removal Edit

Greetings, TU3!

My rights to create my own user profile were revoked by Dantman back in 2008, when I was new to the wiki. I was hoping that you or another Sysop could maybe reinstate me, since I'm a forum mod now and I'd like to be able to leave some links or help users figure out what the hell I'm actually doing here.

Any help would be appreciated :)--Jizo 悟 (talk) 12:05, April 23, 2015 (UTC)

re: Manuel of Style Edit

I agree that it might have to be altered. And well, I was referring more to the long wall of text I put on her talk page. Basically, she's been consistently ignoring user requests for years, which is why this witch hunt is happening in the first place. It's not all because of the Manual of Style. EDIT: So yeah, her not heeding what others tell her not to do is why she's been blocked so much and why you-know-who has made it known he wants her gone... WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 09:25, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

(Funny how I was just talking about the Image Wars with someone else...) Yeah, it isn't required, but those user requests that have been ignored eventually have become warnings, and ignoring warnings is what gets her blocked, from what I've seen.
WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 09:35, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
A user isn't required to listen to user requests... yet she gets blocked for not doing so. That just sounds and looks weird to me. Also, some users complain that such edits "add additional entry to page history and RC" and is unnecessary. Hey, I'm just telling you what I see. But the Manual of Style should probably be altered. WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 09:46, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
Really? No discussion, huh? Well, while that was added, Simant enforced it. WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 09:47, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
Policies can be added without any discussion, if they are deemed to be necessary (hint: Project:Three-revert rule). Simant enforced a lot of non-written policies, but this one regularly came up as an issue, so I added it. Discussions don't need to be made on obvious common sense things, so there is nothing to change.
Also, I would appreciate that you stop demeaning me whenever you get an opportunity to do so. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 09:51, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
Pre-edit conflict: Getting ready for war. May the force be with you, Master.
Post edit conflict: Ugh. Seriously, Sajuuk? WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 09:53, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
I'm blatantly serious. I like how you've agreed with the policy so long, but when TU3 raises a stink, you immediately jump to his side and decide the policy is useless. That policy is perfectly valid, Kunoichi has been warned about those edits for years, other users have also been warned about useless edits, so there is nothing to discuss. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 09:57, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Note: I only said "seriously" due to frustration with the edit conflict. And I never said the policy was useless, thank you very much. And also, I've already created a topic on the Manual of Style talk page, so it should be discussed there. And I'm on my own side. WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 10:00, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

I apologise for that then. The timing of the message was simply bad. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 10:01, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

My Name Edit

I would appreciate you to call me Sajuuk, like every other member of this wiki does. I do not appreciate you calling me "Forum Moderator", because it's obvious you are doing it to deride and make my opinion seem irrelevant to the community. So, you call me Sajuuk, like everyone else, or I'm going to just go to Dantman and complain about your behaviour to wiki editors. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 14:27, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Because you are using any other name, other than "Sajuuk", to refer to me in a degrading manner, as though my opinion is somehow irrelevant and you wish to do whatever possible to make that opinion irrelevant in a serious discussion. I don't ask much, but you cannot just keep referring to editors in any way you wish. If they ask you to refer to them in a certain way, common courtesy is that you should actually honour the request.
Also, just because of the way the policy discussion is going, doesn't mean Kunoichi should be infinitely blocked. If she can't make anything other than "non-page changing edits", she should consider simply making no contribution and focusing on some other part of the wiki, like the forums. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 15:15, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
The forums are not "my playground", I don't know why you think they are. Sure I pushed for them to be opened up more, but that's only because I felt it was a way to improve the wiki as a whole. And it has, to an extent.
Also, if you haven't noticed, she just reverts things because she doesn't actually pay any attention to the multitude of announcement and information posts made by translators and other wiki members, as well as making edits "just in case". She also has no concept of how to use preview, despite knowing of its existence, yet ignores every request to actually use it.
These are not suitable, nor acceptable, excuses to make edits. You don't just make edits on the basis of "just in case", the wiki is not a public sandbox: you also don't just keep ignoring editor requests to use specific wiki features to help you to stop making about 5-10 edits in a row. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 15:24, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

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