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== Is this allowed ? ==
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== I need help, please ==
   
[[:File:Dead Ame Orphans.png|Is it allowed to do this ?]] --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 21:13, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:That's what I thought and my belief is that it'd count as being fanart, but I wasn't really asking you to do anything about it, just wanted to know if it was allowed or not. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 09:24, May 13, 2012 (UTC)
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Ya, I wondered about that, too. Gotta see what the raw says. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 14:12, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
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== So... ==
   
== [[Narutopedia talk:Image policy#Administrative Delcaration]] ==
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it seems we have a deeper problem in this wiki. I got that feeling ever since ShounenSuki left. He was the calm that held the wiki together and now that he's gone, every discussion turns ape-shit in a couple of hours. See Blaze Release. I asked Elve-kun to start a discussion and left for maybe four hours, and when I come back, there are multiple replies with accusations and bolded words, because we all know that someone who bolds his words is right and the others are wrong.
   
If that's the case, then [[User_talk:EzioLover]] should be suspended for updating images. If he does not get suspended, clearly you only made that declaration to stop me uploading. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 19:05, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
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Ever since I began here, I only wanted to clarify stuff, since I'm most likely the one with the most Naruto knowledge, at least in the German fandom. I never intended to give my personal views on happenings, every discussion I began was based on the manga and what he gives us. But most of the time, I'm confronted with ignorance and words like ''bias'' or so.
   
you mean i cant upload any images?? but i didnt know about this declaration so please forgive me i just downloaded the blu-ray version and i wanted to update thats all...and for how much time?? --[[User:EzioLover|EzioLover]] ([[User talk:EzioLover|talk]]) 19:18, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
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You remember when Suki did his New Years Fact Checking or whatever he called it? He explained some stuff and BAMM, everyone believed him, no big deal. Now I do the same, I explain to you guys what Enton, Senjutsu and all that stuff is, all based on the manga and everything, but in return I get "discussions" as seen on the Blaze Release talk page.
   
I'm a bit slow to understand so I have a few questions. Bear with me por favor.
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If it was a random fan who wanted to tell us otherwise because he simply doesn't know better, I'd do it like you and not start a big discussion. But I am by no means a random fan. As I said before, I'm Seelentau, I know my stuff and I believe you guys should trust me a little more, instead of telling me to go and beat dead dolphin horse babies or whatever.
* does that mean no [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Infiltration_and_Reconnaissance_Party?diff=prev&oldid=640995 this-ing]?
 
* Do you also mean no [[:File:Ten Puppet Collection of Chikamatsu.jpg|doing this]] or do you mean uploading entirely different files and replacing the images currently in the articles or both?--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:23, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
* Suppose in the switching out of manga images when the anime airs (that's still allowed right o.O). And an image is uploaded: [[:File:Black Secret Technique Machine Triple Shot.png|bem]] but someone else finds an even better version: [[:File:Kurohigi Kiki Sanpatsu.png|bam]] not in terms of quality or fodder like that but in terms of showing the "entirety" of the technique/scene from the manga version... Is that mk? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:45, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
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Anyways, I think we need to find a new calm. I originally intended to be it, but apparently, I'm not suited for it. So what do we do? I don't wanna go the current road any longer (or at all). [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 22:00, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
   
[[Tailed Beast Rasengan|While I see the reasoning for your edit here]], the problem is, that's like the only good shot that exists in the episode. Chances are, we won't see it again. :( --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 12:10, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
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:If I may offer a solution: maybe Seelentau should replace Suki as a sysop in the capacity of the site's translator. Considering Suki has, in effect, left the wiki, I think this is the most appropriate thing to do. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:02, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::The problem we are having is that everyone's ego is damn too high and each one of us wants to be right and command the others. That's pretty much all. Having had a single figure (Suki) that we followed had its pros imo. Because now, we all want to be Suki. To put it into better words: People demand democracy and want to overthrow the monarch. But once the rule is in their hands, they start fighting against each other--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:04, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
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:Thank you, both of you for your feedback. The decision on who should be a sysop is not mine to make. That lies with Dantman.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:18, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
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:Ya, thank you guys for replying. But I don't think making me a Sysop is going to solve the core problem. It doesn't make me more correct than the rest of you guys or in any way better than you. I think the only little thing most of you need to understand is that I in fact see things as black and white when it comes to the manga. At least 95% of everything I write during discussions is based on what the manga gave us. That's also why I don't understand anyone who calls me biased or a fanboy. It could very well be that I'm blinded by myself or so, but if you really want to prove me wrong, calling me something or saying I beat things isn't the right way. I mean, we all work towards the same goal and when I present you guys a possible mistake, it's your job to prove me wrong, not prove why you're right or call me anything. For example, I wrote on the Blaze Release discussion<br />
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"that it was cast from one eye, and then manipulated with the other. - but that is not the case. • Seelentau 愛 議 21:38, June 25, 2014 (UTC)"<br />
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Now, I say that never happened and the easiest way to prove me wrong would simply be to give me a manga chapter where it happened. From there on, we could discuss further.<br />
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Another thing that comes to mind, again related to Blaze Release, is how some of you handle new information. Sasuke used no Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi, but a normal Kagutsuchi (whatever that is). Instead of accepting it as something new, you guys say that it's not something that needs to be discussed, for whatever reason. But I believe that it shines a new light on things. So what are we going to do? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 09:33, June 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:The main problem lies in the manga itself. I don't know how you guys see it, but in the past, everything that happened in the manga was easy to understand and document. Lately, there pops up so much stuff that's not explained completely or just gives flimsy hints towards things we already took for granted, so the the fans are forced to link the recent events with the "old knowledge" by themselves. Naturally, people interpret certain key elements different than others, and that's where discussions start. Just look at the ridiculously long debates about "Naruto having Magma Release", "Naruto and the 9 Tailed Beasts inside him in general", "Kaguya's eye being a Sharingan or not", "Blaze Release being something we did not think about before or so..." and it goes on and on '''and on'''.
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:Of course it's a problem how quickly discussions start to get out of control. I deliberately refrain myself from participating in any of these debates as I know that I will quickly lose any motivation to come to the wiki itself - just because it never goes forward. To spreak in fanboy-language, it reminds me of Izanagi.
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:Making somebody an admin for this reason is again not legit enough for me, but that's not for me to decide either. For future discussions with seemingly no end: A good action in my eyes is to, for once, not continue until every participant hates each other even more while there's still no consensus reached, but instead agree on a way to write down the discussed subject in a way everybody can agree on. If that's not the case, write down both versions as possible probabilities. I know this wiki does not include speculation, but a conclusion based on the own argumentation is also speculation in its own way. I mean, nobody can't really say what's going on in Kishimoto's head, right?
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:The argument "I can't go back on what I said as I am 100% sure it's right" is also no warranty for a victory in the discussion. The opposing participants think so just as well. What gives anybody the right to think that his or her thoughts are superior to others? [[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 10:36, June 26, 2014 (UTC)
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::'''@Seelentau:''' I don't recall anybody has called ''you'' a fanboy. The term get's thrown at everyone else though. That being said, in response to "that it was cast from one eye, and then manipulated with the other. - but that is not the case" comment, when we first see the Kagutsuchi, in chapter 464 states that he Sasuke casts the Amaterasu with his left eye, then manipulates it with the right, which we see in what basically amounts to slow motion in this current chapter. Unless of course you mean to tell me that what has been in the chapter for damn near four years is wrong then by the Old, this wiki we have much much bigger problems. And to a "normal" Kagutsuchi because it dropped the prefix, I will point out to [[Sage Art: Lava Release Rasenshuriken|this technique]] which I was told over and over ''had'' to have Wind Release, despite not having it as a suffix.
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::So what are we going to do? At this point, I want to us to stop assuming everything we see is new unless it is actually explained as being new. We have a wealth of information that Kishimoto has already provided us, if he isn't explaining anything now, then we '''''must''''' assume, and I know you really really hate using that word, that it is because we should already know it. But I've stated this 100 times before and naturally that blanket decision is not mine alone to make, but you know that.
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::'''@Norleon:''' Izanami. But I see your point. That would be the best course of action, it opens itself up to other issues. For example, picking at the "Naruto and the tailed beasts" thing, that got stupid when it was brought up that because Minato also had a talking tailed beast him in, that that made him a jinchuriki, but when Naruto had 9 of basically the same thing, he wasn't. Then it spiraled into stupid from there. Adjusting it to be more ambiguous could work, but then by that same token it would have to be adjusted to be just as ambiguous for Minato, and so on. And that doesn't get into the realm of infoboxes, categories, ect. The idea is sound and damn may even work. But such ambiguity would have ripples at everything.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:41, June 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:::I'm all for us stating more possibilities in the articles. Why are we so afraid of doing things such as: "Note: Hagoromo proclaimed that his mother has power of the Sharingan, while an identical eye of Madara's was called a Rinnegan. Sasuke's eye which is similar is also a Rinnegan. Currently it's unknown which is true" etc.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:46, June 26, 2014 (UTC)
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::::'''@TU:''' I don't know if I was called it directly, but I was called it indirectly, I think. But that doesn't bother me.
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::::Regarding the Blaze Release thing, you're right (as far as I remember the Japanese text). So if he uses his right eye to '''only''' manipulate it, then how do you explain the instances where he has only his right eye opened? The fight against Obito comes to mind. Also, the Lava Rasen Shuriken itself is ambiguous, I or instance say it's not Wind Release. So I wouldn't count it as an example. (See? That's what discussions are. Not the horse beating thing.)
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::::How does one explain something to be new? Isn't it new if it simply has never happened before? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 13:20, June 27, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Flames created off panel or "quick" (thus still off panel). We don't always see Naruto creating the necessary Wind Release: Rasengan or see him go through the motions of producing shadow clones, but we know he's doing that. But I do not plan to go through the Blaze Release confusion in my talk page. Consider it me losing if that'll make you feel better.
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:::::But what can be considered new has to actually ''be'' new. Small variation of we already know, isn't something totally world breaking new. If it was, damn near more than half of just about everything we see could be labeled a new technique, new trait, new anything, simply because it wasn't 1:1 of what we have seen before. As I stated before, regrettably using the Blaze Release I just said I didn't want to use again, we know his right eye manipulates the flames while his left creates it. What we don't need is two dedicated panels every time Sasuke points black fire arrows at something. Just as we don't need something of 4 panels for Naruto preparing a Rasenshuriken, parts of techniques are cut out to save time, because Kishimoto expects us to know what's happening because he already showed us it before. But something is new when it is actually something that has ''never'' happened before. If something happens and we are literally unable to go "Ok in the past, X happened so Y", taking into account the very first use of something, subsequent usage and the like, then that is something new. What we saw with Sasuke wasn't new because we know that is how it has always worked, we just have to use the dreaded common sense to understand that every piece of it is likely not going to be drawn down because it was essentially been a waste.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:47, June 27, 2014 (UTC)
   
:If it comes up again, will I be able to change it ? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 12:12, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
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== weird ==
   
::Let me apologise for the failure of the Biju Rasengan image. -.- I've added in a comment tag above the Fair Use Rationale to remind me to update that image when a shot appears that's similar to the manga image that also has Naruto in it. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 12:24, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
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I could have sword that I did put your comment back. Although those beers may have something to do with it--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:43, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Offer of Assistance ==
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== Re: Intervention ==
You know, I was just thinking about this, and I thought I'd extend my hand in this offer. I know I have an edit count of just under 200, but you know my record from around Wikia as a whole. Perhaps I could lend your administration a hand on the Image issue? You know, categorization, making sure all the proper tags are on them and whatnot, and deletion of duplicates or images that violate policy. What do you think? Besides, the only reason I'm not too active over here is because I can never seem to find something to get involved with. Those sticks over there on Bleach Wiki seem to have a hernia whenever anyone other than themselves make an edit, so I haven't really found a home on one of the canon wikis yet. Maybe that can change. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 23:16, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
==Adoption discussion==
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The irony of that is astonishing since you guys replaced a much higher quality image with the current one simply because it was "too close up". --[[User:M4ND0N|Mandon]] ([[User talk:M4ND0N|talk]]) 22:46, July 5, 2014 (UTC)
As someone involved in the [[Forum:Administrative_Declaration]] dispute, I thought you would be interested in [[w:forum:AR:Adoption request for Narutopedia Wiki]] since it appears to be related to it. I also contacted Dantman. This wiki's got a lotta SysOps'n Rollbackers and active editors so contacting them all is kinda intimidating =P [[User talk:Tyciol|+]]Y[[Special:Contributions/Tyciol|c]] 06:17, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
:... Need I say more? — [[User talk:Simant|S<small>im</small>A<small>nt</small>]] 06:42, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
::I'm sorry I've been way out of it this weekend. What's happening?--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Uzumaki Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 09:49, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::The adoption request has absolutely nothing to do with the Declaration, Tyciol is completely out of the loop and has simply jumped in without a clue of what the real issue is. I simply placed an adoption request for someone here to be made a crat because of the fact there are no active bureaucrats. Last I heard, the wiki goes up for adoption if all bureaucrats are not active for 2 months. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 09:53, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::I see. I was under the impression when Dantman wasn't around I act in his stead since I believe it was me and Dantman who started moving in like 2009. /shrug Guess I never thought we '''needed''' a bureaucrat.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Uzumaki Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 09:59, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::Bureaucrats are the only people who can set people to Rollback status and there are a whole pile of people in the Rollback group that never come here any more. There are many people on this wiki who deserve rollback status but simply can't get it due to the lack of any active bureaucrats. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 10:06, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Thanks :) ==
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== Madara Uchiha editing ==
   
Thanks for putting the latest episode article back to the proper name. :) --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 11:44, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
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Look, I am not saying that I am a die-hard fan of Madara, I am just saying that sections like his Sharingan should have more specifics. A lot of cutting out took place after I spent several weeks editing it like I did other pages. I have no problem with simplifying the sections. It's just when you put a lot of work into something, you feel bad when basically it isn't considered good enough and plain cut off. I am not trying to start an edit war I am just speaking my mind.Steveo920, 18:22, July 7, 2014
   
== Edo Tensei stuff ==
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Sorry if my writing style comes off as an obsessed fan, but I am not. Personally, I hate narcissists. Also, I am not asking you to restore or give the okay for me to restore my edits. I also have been simplifying sections all over the site. I am just saying you didn't have to announce to all readers that I'm "waving my dick to Madara". Steveo920, 19;34, July 7, 2014
   
Could you switch out the images for the Edo Tensei article when/if they're uploaded. Protection and all that.
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Hey, I am open to constructive criticism. I was just giving my two cents to the subject on editing. I you think there was something wrong with my editing, that's fine. I'm all for making this site seem professional, just keep it civil and not embarrassing should others read it. Steveo920, 20:38, July 7, 2014
 
Alsooo, I was minding my own business yesterday when I came across some information... you're the Bleach wikia founder O_O I was thoroughly impressed and also realised that... you're really a fossil =\ --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:11, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Lool don't you hate when that happens though. I have a friend that begged for bureaucrat status on a wiki and once he got it he demoted the founder and then took over the wikia. =\
 
 
I think I have a full grasp on the declaration, it's just that Edo Tensei is sysop-level protected and all.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:23, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Just needed someone to slap sense into us.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:27, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
[[:File:Fu sacrifice.png|This as well por favor]].--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:36, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:Cerez, he changed the protection level so you can add it yourself :) --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 12:38, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Image Upload Hogging ==
 
 
I believe there is such a thing as hogging the image uploading. When I mean that, I don't mean that they hold it ransom and forbid anyone touching it :P. What I generally mean by it is that other users upload their images and don't let other people try to upload their own, maybe better quality, images which is slightly aggrieving as it seems like other people are being written out of the equation and not being allowed to contribute. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 12:20, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I know people can upload when they want, but it's annoying if other people can't upload because "someone" else has already uploaded before them and nobody will allow the newer image to be used. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 12:30, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::{{Quote|I want Impure World Reincarnation to be Resurrection. I want Sage Art: Many Ultra-Big Ball Spiralling Serial Spheres to be Sage Art: Super Big Ball Rasentarengan. I desperately want Minato's full body shot out of his article. But unfortunately, save for the last one, there have been descent, disagreements, and finally closure.}}
 
:I don't see how this has any relevance to Image Upload Hogging. -.- --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 13:08, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Song Pages ==
 
Hello TheUltimate3, I was wondering if you could help me with [[Future Eve|this page]] as we do not know if it is the right song. Kunoichi101 had put a delete tag on it but I'm not sure if we should keep it on there or if we should do something else. Can you please help? [[User_Talk:Joshbl56|<span style="color:green;">Joshbl56</span>]] 08:01, May 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Site Notice ==
 
 
Hey TU3, the [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice|declaration has ended]]? And where does we use that? :D —[[User:IndxcvNovelist|IndxcvNovelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]|[[w:c:rockleespinoff|My]] [[w:c:phoenixrising|Wiki]]) 11:09, May 28, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Lifted Embargo ==
 
 
Oh how I wish you hadn't Ulti-san.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:45, May 28, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Doomed.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:02, May 28, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== tt ==
 
 
Hello {{Unsigned|Paul Dy}}
 
 
==Madara==
 
U edit 'madara' page and remove that image:
 
 
madarassusanoo.jpg
 
 
Why? Spoiler?
 
 
and thx, i'll try don't contribute again. {{Unsigned|Rodrigo Rodrigues Silva}}
 
 
== Episode Names ==
 
 
Why do people change the name of the episode articles to the "literal" translation, rather than just using the name given by the animators and the one listed on Wikipedia ? :S --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 11:24, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I like it when the episodes are named how they were named. If someone comes here and see an article about Episode 30 and the article name differs from the official name, then they would be confused. Consistency is better for the anime episodes imo. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 11:37, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::It happened again on the episode where Sasuke uses the Dragon Flame Technique against Orochimaru. The user moved the page 3-4 times unnecessarily and left a trail of redirects =.= --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:15, July 27, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Image ==
 
 
y r u deleting my image again and again???{{Unsigned|LordLance}}
 
 
ok i get it sorry for d trouble:){{Unsigned|LordLance}}
 
 
== Re: If it's not obvious by now... ==
 
It's my style and I've made it my style because of all the heat and arguments this wiki has had with me over the most ridiculous of reasons. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:38, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I don't. However, I feel that sometimes being "antagonistic" to people can make them better editors so we don't have to keep reminding people not to break policies. That's just my opinion though.
 
{{Quote|Because I will be watching.}}
 
:STALKER! /jokes --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:44, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Kunoichi101 ==
 
You might want to get involved with this again. The user is still acting high and mighty and is refusing to listen to anyone and constantly freaks out for absolutely no reason whatsoever --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:42, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:{{Quote|And for the record, English in the infoboxes, not an issue.}}
 
It doesn't do anything. It shows up nothing whatsoever on the infoboxes. All that was added was the episode's name. =.=
 
 
:{{Quote|Unfortunately, it would be an abuse of my ability to unblock you Kunoichi}}
 
She was not blocked for the large edits, I believe she was blocked for poor wiki etiquette towards other users when asked basic questions
 
 
:I am getting the feeling you are very against everything I try to do here. That's my opinion because it feels very much like it. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:24, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::I know, I'm following up on your comments, is all. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:27, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:::I suppose, but I feel the way I try to get newer editors on how things work here does have its merits. If someone can't take a slightly blunt response, then clearly they aren't editors who would last here very long. If people take the bluntness and improve on it, they can become better editors. But yeah, you are right: it's a battle of ideals and obviously I try to go along with the wiki culture as best as possible, but I do feel that some of the culture from before does need to shift and change to adapt to today's standards. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:37, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
{{Quote|Not your choice to make. I do not want Narutopedia to be one of those closed off wikis where new users are scared off because the current body make it look like a frat where only a few chosen people can get in.}}
 
I know, I don't intend to be that intimidating lol
 
 
{{Quote|But I'm not doing anything of physical importance as of now, so tell me what parts of our culture do you feel need adapting?}}
 
The whole culture about the images. When the latest episode came out, I uploaded several images. Now, out of all those images, I can guarantee just one of them is being used. The rest were replaced by cropped images. I keep feeling as though there are some users here who are jealous of me having the ability to capture at 1920x1080 (applies only to Nartuo Shippuden) since not a lot of people can and because of that, my images are either cropped for no reason or not used at all in favour of other user's images. If I counted all the images I've uploaded, I'd guarantee 2/5 of them are being used.
 
 
There was also another case with the rationale. Fairly recently, Cerez went to about 4 of my images and just changed the rationale for no reason, citing "useless info". This then started an unnecessary revert war, since (from what I understand) the rationale is to depict THAT image. They aren't supposed to be streamlined to be matching. The stuff he removed was relating to the image being 1080p High Definition and that if the image was to be replaced, it had to be 1920x1080 or greater, not less. I asked Jacce to sysop protect those images due to it.
 
 
There are many other things, but those two are most prominent imo. I feel that the wiki should be taking advantage of Shippuden's 1080p quality and not tossing it away with crappy 480p images. --
 
[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:56, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I know this probably is none of business, but what's going with Kunoichi101? Well, sorta of my business, I suppose. I know her, personally. She's not the type to stir trouble. Maybe I can talk to her? We used to go school together, so she'll listen to me.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 22:49, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
::You might try reading the messages at her talkpage. ~[[User:IndxcvNovelist|IndxcvNovelist]] <sup>([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/IndxcvNovelist|contribs]] | [[w:c:phoenixrising|PR]] | [[w:c:rockleespinoff|RLS]])</sup> 22:53, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== English ==
 
 
Just a question. Why do we need to add the literal english if it is the same with the article name? ~[[User:IndxcvNovelist|IndxcvNovelist]] <sup>([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/IndxcvNovelist|contribs]] | [[w:c:phoenixrising|PR]] | [[w:c:rockleespinoff|RLS]])</sup> 22:39, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Then it should be added only in such cases.... — <span style="text-decoration:underline;">[[w:c:naruto:User:UltimateSupreme|¤<big>U</big>LTIMATE <span style="color:red;"><big>S</big>UPREME¤]]</span></span>[[User talk:UltimateSupreme|(T@lk)]]☺ 03:07, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Signature ==
 
 
I'm going to ask you to stop changing your signature, you're in direct violation of point 12, subsection note 2-3. If you persist, I'll be forced to call down Shodaime TranClan to ban you.
 
 
Best Regards,<br/>
 
Pleasedon'tbanme.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 02:22, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Serious? ~[[User:IndxcvNovelist|IndxcvNovelist]] <sup>([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/IndxcvNovelist|contribs]] | [[w:c:phoenixrising|PR]] | [[w:c:rockleespinoff|RLS]])</sup> 03:44, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: My take on your "Culture" issue ==
 
{{Quote|If an image is cropped, I assume they are done because we don't really need the entire image. In fact, typically we don't want the entire image.}}
 
Most of the character images I upload from Shippuden are tagged HDShot. I tag them like this because it's HD and the image should stay HD. If it is cropped out of the 16:9 ratio, by default and by computer logic, the image stops being HD automatically, which gives a misleading filename. Hence why, I put in my rationale that it's a 1080p HD image and that if it's to be replaced (eg, using the upload a new version system), it must be in 1080p and not less, because that's a degradation of the original quality. In the [[:File:Ninja Swordsmen Revived.png]] file, [[User:Abramnamikaze|another user]] uploaded over my 1080p image with a tiny image that generally violated the replaceability of the image in the rationale. My opinion is that if you want the rationale to say only specific things and not be user-generated, you should create a form that simply gives predefined rationale that can't be changed.
 
 
{{Quote|The "image can only be replaced by another 1080p" image is in my opinion, not a valid rational. As you've stated earlier, not many people have the ability to change the image in that case which gives you an edge (I suspect that was the point, to avoid the problems you were having with Culture Issue #1) but I understand why it was removed. Valid implacability rationals is more, "Image of similar rational", "Image that shows a better representation of the described" ect.}}
 
It's there to stop what happened on the file mentioned above by the replacement of an image that is less than 1920x1080 (or around that if cropped). I don't put that there to give myself an edge: I just don't like it when I upload large 1920x1080 images (some are nearly 2MB or larger) and then having them cleared for much smaller and not-so-great quality images.
 
 
{{Quote|The issue is not the quality, but representation. I don't care if an image is 360p as long is it represents things right.}}
 
Quality is just as important as the representation of an image. You could have a perfect representation of an image, but terrible quality. It won't look good for the wiki if we have a lot of people uploading terrible images with a perfect representation of the image. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 10:49, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::{{Quote|Doesn't change the fact it's not a valid rational.}}
 
:I can't seem to find anything written down that you must write the rationale a specific way. I put in 1080p High Definition because the images I upload are just that: 1080p. They should not be replaced by an image of anything lower than that (using the Upload a new version of the file: if it's a separate file, then that's not violating the replaceability).
 
 
::{{Quote|You are right however, quality is important, still not as important as representation, but yes it is important.}}
 
:It's important when in the case of character infobox images. [[:File:Fuguki.png|Click here for an example]]. This image is a good representation, but it's let down by the fact the image is of a terrible quality due to the grainy background, which is severely degrading that image.
 
 
::{{Quote|It is not important enough however where a made up rational that reads like "this way, only a few people can upload images!" is appropriate.}}
 
:It's not written as to intend that. You said yourself that you can access 1920x1080 resolution. I got my Crunchyroll account to improve the wiki with much higher quality images, I didn't get it to waste my money since I don't really need to watch in 1080p but I do for the improvement of this wiki. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 11:04, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:::{{Quote|However I'm getting away from myself. I'm not interested in just images. What else concerns you about our culture. I'm sure it's not just images.}}
 
::I can't think of anything really, my pet peeve is just how some users handle a situation with the images I upload and some users are too fixed in one specific way and they don't seem to want to change it. There's another culture that I have to address and it's with the release of a new episode. I don't think your aware of it, but when the new episode is released on Thursday, Cerez literally spams uploads to the wiki for various images. He clearly mentioned [[Forum:Administrative Declaration#Discussion|here]]:
 
{{Quote|Cerez365|Also, my "hogging" of uploading images as the self-proclaimed image <s>queen</s> chief (I always thought I was just the Herald) has been brought up as an issue. Thinking about it, this might actually be the underlying issue and though I didn't see anyone going out of their way to do this for me, nor did I complain- I paid my dues as a noob ( '-'), I'll try to curb that and give some of the younger ones more of a chance to contribute in that manner.}}
 
::However, several weeks later, I have seen absolutely no indication whatsoever that Cerez intends to curb his uploading and he is certainly giving nobody else a chance to upload. His belief (in my opinion) is that "I upload an image and I will revert any attempts to make the image better" which is extremely selfish because he's clearly telling people that he wants to continue being the chief image uploader and he's refusing to give other people, like me, the chance to even try. I suggested at one point in the declaration that a list of images that need swapped out (manga -> anime) should be provided by someone on the episode's talkpage so that the community can get involved and so it wouldn't be the same 3 people uploading images. That obviously hasn't went anywhere because of Cerez's attitude to hogging the uploader. I checked the upload log and he uploaded at least 15 images, maybe even more, on the release of the recent episode. I barely got in 8 and had I not got my 8 uploads in, Cerez would probably have 25 uploads. Please don't tell me that's not hogging the uploader because if someone uploads 25 images within 30 minutes, it is. He's giving nobody else the chance and I understand that he's not able to rewatch the episodes, but if that's the case, then all he should be doing is listing the manga images, enjoying the episode more and not just watching it for the sake of spamming the wiki with images. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 11:13, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:::There isn't really any other concerns, other than the ones I've pointed out above. There are probably other cultures that I'm not aware of but the main one that I get involved in is the images. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 11:23, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:::Something I didn't mention is that I have messaged Cerez 2-3 times now, asking him quite politely to remember that he said he would curb the uploads but he hasn't ever responded or even listened. It's why I feel I should mentioned it to you so you can let him know. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 13:10, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Talkpage Policy ==
 
I didn't threaten him. I told him that if he removed my messages again then I would list him for blocking on Jacce's talkpage. I was slightly blunt but not threatening =.= --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:40, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:@TheUltimate3 Thank you for your support. The Fox King([[User:The Fox King|tylerbryant547@gmail.com]] ([[User talk:The Fox King|talk]]) 03:29, June 21, 2012 (UTC))
 
 
::I haven't been revert warring. Edit warring either on purpose. I try not to fight on here and yes, this week I have made some mistakes, but I haven't tried to add anything on the article that isn't true. The Fox King([[User:The Fox King|tylerbryant547@gmail.com]] ([[User talk:The Fox King|talk]]) 11:38, June 21, 2012 (UTC))
 
 
:::What is interesting about them. I know some were pointless, I just let my favoritism and respect for Madara go too far by here and there adding things true, but unnecessary. I won't do that anymore though. From here on, I'll only attribute abilities that are existent and that no one has added or edit his page to correct spelling errors and such. The Fox King([[User:The Fox King|tylerbryant547@gmail.com]] ([[User talk:The Fox King|talk]]) 12:07, June 21, 2012 (UTC))
 
 
::::What didn't you like about them. You retorted my thanking you for supporting me against Speysider's threat and said that my edits catching your eye were not usually a good thing. The Fox King([[User:The Fox King|tylerbryant547@gmail.com]] ([[User talk:The Fox King|talk]]) 12:20, June 21, 2012 (UTC))
 
 
:::::It was not a threat, it was slightly blunt but not threatening =.=
 
:::::Why don't you just leave it be since TU3 has told you he has become interested in your edits ? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:22, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Sorry about the misunderstanding TheUltimate3. I will try not to make you hate them then. The Fox king([[User:The Fox King|tylerbryant547@gmail.com]] ([[User talk:The Fox King|talk]]) 12:43, June 21, 2012 (UTC))
 
 
== File move ==
 
Please move [[:File:Yondaime Mizukage.png|this]] to [[:File:Nidaime Mizukage.png]]. I typo'd the name =.= --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 13:08, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Main Article ==
 
I got a problem from Speysider. He told me that using main article on the main characters/supporting characters is not necessary. so can the anime filler in part II the same as the Adventures at Sea Arc??? I don't want to have a fight with him. [[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 23:24, June 21, 2012 (UTC)Kunoichi101
 
:you should know that kunoichi101 asked for the comminuties opinion because this is a community and not run by one people and now that the community doesnt agree with him he wnats it deleted but it shouldnt be deleted so i will give you the link to it and please dont delete it ok? because it should be talked about by everyone here is the link [[Forum:Main Article with the anime filler]]--{{Unsigned|64.20.45.178}}
 
 
== Excessive Uploads ==
 
[[User:Droidkaju]] is excessively uploading for the past couple of days. In 2 days, he's uploaded nearly 25 images and a lot of them are of poor quality (I know game images are poor quality, but I think they could be much better than the ones he's uploading), unnecessary (5 images for a technique is pointless) and contain black bars. I didn't want to tell him since it would seem pointless, so I'd thought I'd let you know. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 13:44, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
:I don't see a problem with it... — [[User talk:Simant|S<small>im</small>A<small>nt</small>]] 14:49, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::I am not saying there is a problem, nor do I care. I am merely making mention of it. =.= --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:51, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I'm beginning to have a problem with the excessive uploading by the user I mentioned up above. He's so eager to upload crap tons of images that he's uploading images that show nothing but a coloured blur, continually contain black bars and are generally unusuable on the wiki. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 19:23, June 27, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Video Game forum ==
 
can you look at this. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Video_game_characters
 
[[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 06:28, June 28, 2012 (UTC)Kunoichi101
 
 
so you watch naruto. who is your favorite team. my is team 7--[[User:Nicole Janine Holbrook|Nicole Janine Holbrook]] ([[User talk:Nicole Janine Holbrook|talk]]) 15:58, July 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Image embargo ==
 
I didn't think I'd need to ask this, but we need another image embargo. The number of people constantly uploading images that are watermarked by Saiyan Island is ridiculous. Even if it's only for 2 weeks, it would at least stop the nuisance others are creating. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:04, July 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Problem ==
 
[[Talk:Sage Mode]]. This has gone completely out of control and Elveonora is literally bashing and insulting people for no reason. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 21:56, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Naruto's Page ==
 
Hello there! I was wondering if you could go back and fix the Naruto page because Gabriel Dal Belo has some text (very small but really annoying). [[User_Talk:Joshbl56|<span style="color:green;">Joshbl56</span>]] 23:35, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Road to stuff ==
 
 
Heller. If you would, could you please add a <nowiki>== See Also ==</nowiki> section on the movie's article and put the [[Road to Naruto The Movie]] article underneath it. The page is protected.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:39, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== rationales ==
 
I'm trying to make small fixes to rationales, for example [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/File:Kakuzu_masks2.png?diff=prev&oldid=667594 here], just so they say the right thing and they are being reverted. Nothing is wrong with my edit so I don't see Cerez's continual problems with my contributions. I get proper internet access for a couple hours and already I can't contribute =.= --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 14:53, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:<s>If you don't want it to be a valid rationale, that is your problem, not mine. Go and talk about it in private with the other admins and make it a rule, then I might stop putting it in. Until that time arrives, it's perfectly valid until other admins say otherwise. You and Cerez gang up on me every single time I try to improve this wiki. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 14:58, July 19, 2012 (UTC)</s>
 
 
::Sorry about that, I only saw the first bit and misread what you had said. Again, apologies. I've strike out'd the above since I was a bit hasty =] --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:01, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I'd like to point out, just so you know Ulti for future references that I'm using the standard mark up that has been used on the template which explains the fair use rationale as well as the one that everybody who is here now excluding the user above me uses as well users who were here before my time have used. Now while I don't mind overlooking the images uploaded by said user and their rationale, I am not going to let it spread to other rationales. I see no need to overcomplicate something as simple as rationale. It's high quality write Resolution= High and call it a day.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:07, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:But it isn't! That's your problem, you don't know what the resolutions are for HD so you think none of these images are HD, when they are. Even the images you and others have uploaded are 720p HD and that is why I am putting it in. It's your problem if you don't want to accept that because TU3 is actually agreeing with me that it's fine to put in 720p High Definition. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:13, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
::ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:16, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Sorry about this Ulti. I was just explaining my position to you. I don't intend to entertain this.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:20, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
 
== Request ==
 
== Request ==
I shouldn't be asking this, but I'm going to have to now. Please tell Cerez to back off and stop being so antagonising about all my edits and to stop revert warring with everything I do. I'm really starting to become bored of his behaviour because he is out to get me. Cerez, I know you'll read this but I do not want you to reply because you will, as you always do, skew the facts and make me out to be a bad guy for no reason whatsoever. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:58, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
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Hi. May I ask you to look at [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Wood_Release:_Several_Thousand_Hands this talkpage]? It's about a missing derived jutsu and nobody answered until now. If you don't agree with what I wrote, please tell me where I'm wrong. Thanks in advance! [[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 18:05, July 9, 2014 (UTC)
 
:This problem will never end. Admin intervention will always be needed. Let's take the case of [[:File:Kinkaku sealed.png|this file]]. You told me it was perfectly fine on my talk page to put "720p High Definition" on the resolution parameter of the rationale and Cerez just ignored me and continued to revert my edit which really did piss me off because, if I get an admin's clearance, there should be no discussion because the staff have said "I approve of this, case closed". Instead of being civil and reading my edit summaries, he has become immature and has descenced to using pathetic insults and calling me a child which I'm not going to tolerate. I'm not going to waste a single bit of my time trying to make him grow up because he won't and as I said previously, the issue will not be solved until the admins intervene. I'm doing nothing wrong, I am trying to defend my edits and I get yelled at constantly. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:58, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::Believe me I have tried and have been ignored completely. He is refusing to listen to me and does not address me by my username anymore and just calls me "User" or "child" so I'm not wasting my time bringing it up to him to end the feud. He will only stop if an admin tells him to. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 19:21, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: "Spey" ==
 
 
If we must, just remember you asked for it. No good will come of this, however...
 
*puts on Busoshoku Haki*
 
 
It could be any number of things really:
 
* [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Forbidden_Words?diff=668660&oldid=668658 this]
 
* [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/File:Kohaku_no_Johei.png?diff=668656&oldid=668651 this]
 
* Any of the recent image uploads from episode 270 and their rationale or have been recently uploaded
 
* [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Ch%C5%8Dza_Akimichi?diff=668622&oldid=668566 this]
 
* Me calling him "child" which at the time was used as colloquialism and would equate to me calling you "nigguh" or "gurlll".
 
 
First to apologise about this again but I suppose you'll find entertainment out of it no?
 
 
Now there's a lot to be said about the whole matter but I won't because I am trying to be civil towards him and [[Forum:Purpose of Image Tags and Characters in image templates ?|for all the good it did]]. I've tried to explain everything I do, but it doesn't seem to register where he is concerned because nothing the user does seems wrong to him (not ever tying to usurp control of the entire wiki) and I can't do anything about that really. But all I can say is that I've tried and the whole situation is tiresome to someone with the emotional depth of a teaspoon, but now [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAlTOfl9F2w this is as much single that can be given any more]. It's supposed to be a simple thing: if the user steps out of line, marshal him. It's what I'd expect any one to do to any other person on the wiki.
 
 
One more thing. If you'd recall to mind the Pakura infobox image fiasco, having rationales that say "Only by an image in Widescreen format (nothing less than 1280x720 accepted) and with the same license format" and the stink that was raised because another user cropped the image, those are the issues I want to avoid. Suppose an image even labelled "720p HD" is cropped down and no longer 720p, then the rationale would either have to be changed or, like with Pakura's image, reuploaded altogether (raising problems either way). Those are the things which can be avoided by simply saying "Low, Medium, High". --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:09, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Decision Time ==
 
{{Quote|No images.}}So your saying I can't upload ?
 
{{Quote|No synopsis.}}I don't even touch the synopsis >_<
 
{{Quote|No editing existing images that other people upload.}}This should really be directed towards Cerez, he is the one who starts the problems with it because I don't start problems: I make a fix and he reverts it for no reason.
 
 
I find this way too harsh. A ban for contributing? I'm trying to contribute and now your telling me I can't. >_> This decision solves nothing, all you have done is make a very threatening decision to ban people if they so much as look at each other's edits and, as I said, this will not solve a single thing. This clearly favours Cerez and is not an unbiased decision in any form. I would appreciate it if the other administrators, including Dantman, would provide me their thoughts on my talkpage because I do not agree to any part of this decision: it's threatening and very condescending and I find it insulting as well as rude. Did you consult any of the other administrators and Dantman to discuss this, or are you just making up your own decisions without consulting anyone else? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:11, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Ok. I'm fine with that. Though I'll have questions to clarify some things.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:51, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
My God this is getting out of hand and tiresome.
 
 
Look here Speysider, I like uploading images and have been told not to do so, I like writing new Synopses so that the homepage is updated quickly and regularly and have been told not to do so. I was planning on even asking questions and decided not to do so either and you don't see me crying foul. The only reason this benefits me is because I'm an all-purpose user, nothing more, the only way Ulti could stop me contributing is nothing short of banning me because of what I edit here. Now you want to have a full fleet of administrators coming down on something as trivial as the nit-picking of two users? Why not go to central and have them oversee the decision as well or maybe get the admins from the other Naruto wikis to chime in?
 
 
I don't know about you but I have a whole lot of shame and would rather not escalate this any further. As you've said before I hate you, when in fact I don't mind you at all, so how about we expand on that and make our own compromise and see whether or not Ultimate accepts it oui? Since you contribute mainly in the images section, you do your thing there, and i'll not mind you. If you want to tag every image from 0.1p-1080p S/HD or with widescreen and whatever else tags you want go right ahead. I realise now that I'm way too grown to be keeping up this foolishness with you on a day to day basis and at least, promise from this point onwards, to respect the contributions you make and let them alone. Sounds fair enough? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]
 
 
:Finally! Someone willing to compromise!--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:29, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::@Cerez: I had typed up a big long speel but because '''someone''' chose to delete this talkpage, I can't remember what I said. I'll just say that all I wanted from you is for you to say exactly what you have just proposed. So I'm going to accept your proposal because I don't want any more fighting, but I won't hesitate to drop a line to Dantman or any other administrator if you break your proposal. Let's put all of this behind us and start anew because you do good work here but I feel this has went out of hand.
 
::@TU3: I got your reply on my talkpage but I need to question this:
 
{{Quote|But the problem area, namely the New Episodes is regrettably forbidden until I say otherwise.}}
 
This wasn't even a problem. The problem was, in general, images. Basically, by your message here, you are telling me I cannot upload a single image from any anime episode, so what's the point of me being here to upload images? You might want to rethink that. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:54, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Technically, I don't have to rethink anything. Nor is it necessary, if you two truly wish to honor this truce. I'll hold both of you to this, and naturally I will be watching. As such, none of your actions will be restricted. Don't disappoint me. /playsSkyrim--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:59, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::Did you read what I said ? What you have told me is both me and Cerez am forbidden from uploading a thing and that is what I wish you to rethink. Cerez uploads images from the manga and the anime and I do not want to stop him doing so and I do not find it fair that we should both be barred from uploading COMPLETELY and let others take control of uploading. From what you have said, this is an infinite ban of the uploader so why not just get the central wiki to make us a new usergroup for those who are not allowed to upload because that is what you are telling me. So yeah, I would like you to rethink what you have said. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:04, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
# I think you've misunderstood what I said Speysider. I am not afraid of the popo, you can call them. Don't take this either as an indication that things such as changing the images you upload won't still be changed for ones more favourable, it's just that in the future, it will have more community involved.
 
# The rest of the conversation, I am lost to so I'll plea the 5th on the basis that it might incriminate me? So am I or am I not restricted from doing stuff before I go back to my Spanish soap operas.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:09, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I probably did and all I wanted was community discussions in images, not people making their own decisions to crop images. An image should, imo, only be cropped if the community thinks it is necessary. Or, we'll just have another repeat of this. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:13, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::I just re-read what TU3 said and he isn't restricting us from doing anything, so might I suggest to you TU3 to go to your original messages to me and Cerez and cross out bits that you originally put so as to avoid confusion ? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 19:10, July 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:::The issue is done Speysider and I'm not doing anything. Let it go.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:23, July 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::::Once you confirm here if we are restricted from doing anything or not (excluding the restriction of not touching each other's edit in a 3 hour window that doesn't include talkpages and forum posts), then I will let it go :) I would like to be absolutely sure of where the situation is before doing anything. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 21:31, July 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
By the Titans boy, did you actually read this entire thing, or do you just enjoy controversy for the sake of it? I have said, quite plainly, that as long as you and Cerez hold to your truce, there is no restrictions. Don't trade one stupid feud with another. Don't even respond to this, the issue is '''closed.'''--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:43, July 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Operation: Imagedawn==
 
What's it about? —<span style="text-shadow: 0px 1px 2px #000;">'''''[[User:White Flash|<span style="color:#000; font-family: Papyrus;">White</span>]] [[User talk:White Flash|<span style="color:#000; font-family: Papyrus;">Flash</span>]]'''''</span> 10:53, July 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Signatures: Important? ==
 
this is Kunoichi101, there's something i want to ask. signatures are important, yes? if so, then look at the signature forum i created because one of them left me a message "without" a signature on my talk page. i don't like users who never use signatures before. <.< [[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 05:13, July 25, 2012 (UTC)Kunoichi101
 
 
== Thank You==
 
Thank you, thank you VERY much for ending this annoying problem with admins on Hinata's appearance. I have managed a LOT of wikis over the years, and I can tell you this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.
 
 
This problem with stingy/over powered admins on this wiki I have multiple complaints about so I thank you for stepping up and ending this stupidity.
 
--[[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 17:18, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: [[:File:Pein Rikudō.png]] ==
 
I put in Pein Rikudo just so it looks better and so people can see the Romaji name. Again, there is no rationale standard so there isn't exactly anything wrong with it :/ --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 11:50, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:It's not dumb, it just makes the rationale look better imo. I've done the very same thing in loads of other places on other images I've uploaded and there's been no issue there. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:01, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::Well, it's not exactly doing any harm imo. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:08, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Same with linking to Edo Tensei. Most people know the technique as Edo Tensei. Now I feel harassed: first it was Cerez messing with the rationale's on my images (which we have agreed on) and now I've got you doing it. Can't anyone just leave my edits alone ... --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 19:29, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:It's not a pointless redirect. It's perfectly valid. Also I only get attached to the edits when people like you start dictating your opinion for no reason whatsoever. There is nothing wrong whatsoever with using <nowiki>[[</nowiki>Edo Tensei]] in the rationale. If you think it's pointless, fine but don't bring your opinion into something. It's starting to become annoying. Keep your opinions about what I put in rationale's out of what you are supposed to be doing, which is not stalking whatever I do reverting them. =.= Not one other user seems to give a damn about it, but you. Why does that not surprise me in the slightest ? You want to put your nose in a lot of things that really aren't a problem just to generate problems. IIRC, the link for Edo Tensei exists on OTHER USER'S UPLOADS AND IN THEIR RATIONALE and there is no problem there. Me thinks you are trying to be a nuisance to me. Nobody else cares and it's very annoying when I have opinionated edits made for no reason at all. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 21:50, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Sorry for stepping into conversation, but I don't see any problem with it either.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:47, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Ultimate, you might be an admin, but:
 
* Is it against rules?
 
* Does it make any harm?
 
I don't think there's anything bad. As he said, the majority refer to some techniques in their Japanese form.
 
It's easier to type Edo Tensei than "Impure world resurrection/reincarnation" IF the only redirect would be in it's Japanese form, only then it would be a problem.
 
Not to mention it's not just English-speaking fans/visitors that come to this site.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:56, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:What Elveonora said is quite true. It does no harm at all. And the way I write the links is so that the page displays the Romaji but links to the actual named article anyway. Nothing that I am doing breaks any one of the rules, so stop making them up as you go along to piss people off. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:01, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
* "But that's not an excuse to have things formatted differently across the Wiki"
 
* "But this is an English Language wiki. We have established guidelines on what get's translated, and what doesn't. Impure World Reincarnation falls into the translated"
 
 
That's true, things like "Rasengan" aren't being translated. BUT if that's the case, why not to make an exception for Edo Tensei as the majority refers to it as such, as well?
 
I don't watch the English anime, so I have no idea (there might be the problem) but do they say: "Summoning: Impure World Resurrection Technique!!!" ?
 
True it's weird to have part of the wiki one way and the rest the other... it's really not an issue though when people know what a term does refer to.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:11, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
@Elveonora: They call it "Summoning Jutsu: Reanimation" in the English Dub and "Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei" in the Sub. Edo Tensei is what everyone knows it by so I don't see the issue at hand here. Almost everyone I know calls the technique Edo Tensei, so I'm pretty sure any user who comes here is going to know what it means. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:14, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:TheUltimate3, can you please stop putting words in my mouth? Also that naming policy is for ARTICLES, NOT IMAGES! Jesus Christ. Everything you are saying is making you look like a total moron who makes up rules and policies and takes them out of context when he feels like it. There is NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT I AM DOING, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS MAKING A DAMNED ISSUE OUT OF IT FOR NO APPARENT REASON! You are the most annoying admin here and I really wish you would just stop abusing your position. NOBODY ELSE, NOT EVEN CEREZ, CARES HOW THEY LINK TO PAGES IN A RATIONALE! --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:18, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
{{Quote|Then by all means, be wrong. I don't care. Wave your banner in clear defiance!}}
 
Problem with you is, you think everyone's wrong. In this case, the only person who's wrong is you. Your the one who is being defiant. You have also misinterpreted that Naming policy because I'm 100% sure that is intended for articles and not for anything to do with images or their rationales.
 
 
{{Quote|Getting pissy doesn't mean your edits golden nuggets that are free from being altered. It's about time you stop acting like a child and accept that}}I'm not acting like a child, I'm trying to defend myself from your opinionated edits that make no sense and are not needed. If you want, I can go straight to Dantman and ask him to tell you how stupid you are being. How does that sound? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:39, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Image stalking :/ ==
 
Please stop stalking every edit I do to images. It's becoming a nuisance if I can't be allowed to do anything without having them reverted for no apparent reason. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:27, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
{{Quote|1) I'm not stalking your images.}}You kinda are by changing things only you seem to have a problem with. Elveonora said above that he doesn't see any issue with it.
 
{{Quote|2) I've already told you, if I see inconsistency, I will change it. I'm not however going to dive into the image sea looking for them. If I happen to stumble across them, I will make the edit.}}Problem is, your the only one doing it, so that makes you a stalker.
 
{{Quote|Lets take a good look at how 1 and 2 are related. You have, in the past 3 to 4 months, made overwhelmingly made the most uploads of any one user.}}So? Funny how you don't mention Cerez either, when he was doing it long before I was here =.=
 
{{Quote|I'm not stalking your uploads, you threw a million of them at me and told me to dodge them}}Because I don't like you. You keep stalking my edits and reverting them when nobody else has an issue. I would appreciate it if you could get off my back and just stop getting involved with everything I do now. It's a burden. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:16, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I'm going to respectfully ask that you stop mentioning me in every discussion you have ok? I'm getting a bit exasperated at the fact that everything you have an issue with you mention me. Argue on your own merit and not what I do or do not do because I know for a fact that I'm way too lazy to be covering a linked name with the romaji name in a simple description.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:26, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I wasn't even referring to you in that way. I was simply pointing out that TU3 is quite wrong to say I've made the most uploads since you were also making lots of anime uploads as well and that he never complained when you did it before and that he's only complaining because I'm involved. It wasn't directed at you in any way, I was merely making an example. =.= --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:44, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::It doesn't matter which manner you were referring to me in, stop using me as a benchmark because the undertone you're trying to set that Ulti is playing favourites— whether intentional or no, is becoming painfully apparent. Just leave me out of it altogether because as i've said, I'm way too lazy to do <nowiki>[[Wind Release: Dust Cloud Technique|Fūton: Fūjin no Jutsu]]</nowiki> that with any image.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:04, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:::Nobody is asking you to do that and nor would I even ask you to do it. I'm choosing to do it on my images because I want to and since your not touching my images, I think others should do the very same --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:07, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::::That is not the issue here, nor my concern. I've asked you already to stop using me as a benchmark, that's all I have to say.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:15, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I would like both of you to not use my Talk Page to talk amongst yourselves >.> Cerez, don't get involved unless dragged in stupidly. Speysider, don't use Cerez for...whatever point you were trying to make. I've already told you I don't care who uploads what. If I see something I'm going to change it. And thats nice that Elveonora doesn't have a problem with it. I however do, as it shows a lack of consistency.--17:27, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I'll only listen to you on the last point if you and ALL of the administrators get together on Skype and make a decision. I'm not going to listen to you because it sounds like it's just your opinion. Dantman did not state anything about what we discussed yesterday to do with images, as he was under the impression it was article links. So, I'm just going to keep doing what I do until some person makes a policy after '''discussing it with every other admin'''. Renegade admins annoy me when they do their own thing without consulting others >_> --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:29, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Do you purposely not listen to what other people or do you not just care when they don't agree with you? The naming policy was made by many users years ago. Keeping things consistent across the wiki is not only common sense, but also made by many users years ago. It's asinine for someone to even '''''assume''''' consistency should take a backseat just because of where it is. Goddamnnit man, use your common sense. I want consistency. I don't want things labeled different just because someone thinks he's being oh so clever (and I'm not talking about u. I'm talking about every anon that I've had the misfortune to monitor since I made keeping the Wiki consistent, vandal free, and orderly as my primary function). Renegade admins annoy you. Cool. People with delusions of grandeur do it for me.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:38, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Also, reread what Dantman wrote.
 
{{Quote|1)So when someone comes along and just edits the image page to clean it up and make the links conform to our naming policy for whatever reason. Since it follows a policy we're enforcing elsewhere, improves the consistency of the wiki whether we are enforcing consistency or not, and you have no ownership over the page. You have no right to object to people going and cleaning up image pages to fit the naming policy.}}
 
:::I have just as much right to edit the image pages as you do. Except I have a leg to stand on (consistency) compared to you (i like X better).--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:41, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== cool site ==
 
 
Apologies for the caps and multi messaging. Good to know it's a bug too.{{unsigned|Mikesec256}}
 
 
== Kusanagi - Oro edit ==
 
 
Orochimaru's body got sealed, not him. Kishimoto wouldn't draw random generic snakes moving around and getting killed, panel space can be saved for more important things. It was obviously Orochimaru burnt by Amaterasu, he wouldn't come out of Anko if he was in Totsuka Sword--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 01:41, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
The sword is stated to seal anything for all eternity, Orochimaru has obviously escaped it with only his body sucked in, his soul stayed in the "impure world" and even was watching from inside Anko since then all along. Again, the escaping snakes were obviously Orochimaru that was burnt. There aren't 2 Orochimarus, one in Totsuka and the other now walking around.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:33, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
* his chakra = consciousness
 
* he didn't do the same with Sasuke, the latter absorbed his soul
 
* there's no sealed Orochimaru
 
* every living being has only 1 soul, there can't be 2 same people with one around and other revived
 
* Nagato said that to ease Naruto, the same in Kushina's case
 
* the snakes escaping and getting killed were obviously obvious, not drawn for fun
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:07, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== New Wikia Skin ==
 
 
[http://us6.memecdn.com/Welcome-to-the-Dark-Side_o_64197.jpg Lulsicle].--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:36, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Enough ==
 
{{Quote|Now the file name for that one is perfectly fine, and (logically) not a page that needs a move which would appear to be simply that it is in English. Now with that being said, the final decision here lies with Jacce as it is his decision to follow up on the Request.}}It's not just because it's English: naming technique images in Romaji is shorter. See the examples I gave to Cerez to show the major difference naming something in Romaji has over naming it in English. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:10, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I know, I'm just responding to your statement that you made, because I do have every valid right to request Jacce to move pages and/or files. Cerez isn't the arbitrator of Jacce's requests :/ --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:17, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Delete ==
 
 
Can you please delete the redirect which you left while moving [[:File:539263-161757812.jpg|this image]]. {{User:UltimateSupreme/Sig}} 12:18, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Obito Uchiha ==
 
Thank you, for protecting the Obito page, the user that kept changing Tobi to Obito was really getting on my nerves. I ask if you can check the page for any changes the user had made.--[[User:Droidkaju|Droidkaju]] ([[User talk:Droidkaju|talk]]) 23:04, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Okay, since this user keeps on changing everything and i have to revert everything back, can you keep the page protected temporarily.--[[User:Droidkaju|Droidkaju]] ([[User talk:Droidkaju|talk]]) 02:57, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
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Hi, just a question. Shouldn't we change it from Tobi to Obito, since we all know it has been revealed. Droidkaju insisted on still using the Tobi codename. ~[[User:IndxcvNovelist|IndxcvNovelist]] <sup>([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/IndxcvNovelist|contribs]] | [[w:c:phoenixrising|PR]] | [[w:c:rockleespinoff|RLS]])</sup> 21:43, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Naruto Uzumaki page==
 
There's something wrong with the Naruto Uzumaki page. {{User:Lelouch Di Britannia/Sig2}} 10:58, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Tense in episode articles ==
 
 
I noticed the [[Narutopedia:Writing policy]] says that articles should be in past tense, but it looks like the most recent episode recap pages are in the present tense. Personally, I like it in the present tense, but I'm asking because I recently cleaned up the [[The End of Tears]] page and in the process switched everything to present tense having seen the newer pages. Let me know if this was a mistake, and I'll fix it. Related question: Was my page edit appropriate? If I modified too much without using the talk page, let me know. I'm still getting a feel for the editing etiquette. Thanks! [[User:Meganeko317|Meganeko317]] ([[User talk:Meganeko317|talk]]) 03:22, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
   
== Apologies ==
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== Talk Page ==
Sorry for my trouble and nonsense editing and stuff, if i have a problem i will consult it with you.
 
   
Obito was 13 before the current timeline of Naruto, in Part I he would have been 26-27 years old. [[User:XImmortalAresX|XImmortalAresX]] ([[User talk:XImmortalAresX|talk]]) 15:11, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
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Hi, there is no Talk Page for the Naruto Uzumaki Region Combo, I didn't edit immediately because I am not sure if we should add Flight Technique or Six Paths Sage Technique as a parent--[[User:MERCURIOUS|MERCURIOUS]] ([[User talk:MERCURIOUS|talk]]) 19:27, July 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Re: Relationships page ==
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Well, I am not sure how Naruto would attack a flying opponent from all directions(from below as well) if he cannot fly.--[[User:MERCURIOUS|MERCURIOUS]] ([[User talk:MERCURIOUS|talk]]) 21:03, July 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
Very sorry about that! It's been a long while that I just forgot. ^_^; Well I already asked Jacce about the issue, but if you can do it before Jacce can, that will be great! [[User:KazeKitsune|KazeKitsune]] ([[User talk:KazeKitsune|talk]]) 23:02, September 8, 2012 (UTC)
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==Matianu.alexandruionut==
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I'm not getting in an edit war with him. Can you deal with him on the Rinnegan Shifting Technique page? [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User:WindStar7125]] [[User talk:WindStar7125|<sup>(Talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|<sub>(Contributions)</sub>]] 19:11, July 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Permission ==
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==Gantta==
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This Gantta guy keeps reverting edits on the Kamui page. Can you please tell him that on this wiki, we do things democratically and don't define things to suit any one person's needs? I don't wanna get into an edit war with this guy; he's a new editor and is already becoming annoying. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User:WindStar7125]] [[User talk:WindStar7125|<sup>(Talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|<sub>(Contributions)</sub>]] 16:11, July 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
Where can I get permission to edit certain articles like Naruto or Sasuke?--[[User:Itachi7000|Itachi7000]] ([[User talk:Itachi7000|talk]]) 23:13, October 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Hi Ultimate this is 6paths here again, thanks for the welcome message, I was wondering if i can have authority to edit articles, I follow what is going on here correctly so if you want another editor, I'm available :) --[[User:Naruto6paths|Naruto6paths]] ([[User talk:Naruto6paths|talk]]) 18:36, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
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Evidence that contrast your second paragraph was offered up in the talk section. I guess "this gantta guy" is a democratic deadbeat.
   
Ok, thanks for the feedback, I'll get to work. --[[User:Naruto6paths|Naruto6paths]] ([[User talk:Naruto6paths|talk]]) 19:44, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
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--[[User:Gantta|Gantta]] ([[User talk:Gantta|talk]]) 17:16, July 19, 2014 (UTC)Ganta
   
== TheUltimate3 Sensei ==
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hello,nomme me sysop svp et je te mets des pages nouvelles--[[User:Sasuke449|Sasuke449]] ([[User talk:Sasuke449|talk]]) 14:46, July 24, 2014 (UTC)
   
Thank you admin TheUltimate3 sensei ^_^
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== cool ==
I have something slightly trivial to ask that's really making me wonder and maybe you know and maybe you don't, I just want to know whether or not you know which anime episode Madara is supposed to debut in(as Edo Tensei of course). It's most likely you don't know the exact episode, but I don't read the manga much and maybe someone who does can calculate chapters into episodes. Whether you know or not, I appreciate your answer! [[Special:Contributions/165.138.142.66|165.138.142.66]] ([[User talk:165.138.142.66|talk]]) 13:36, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: English variant ==
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Although this time I'm not talking about any merger, just listing Kaguya as jinchuuriki of the Tailed Beasts, since they are inside of her. Not listing Gedo Mazo. ok... I got it already, you want it separate at all costs, but is there a reason not to list Kaguya?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:14, July 24, 2014 (UTC)
   
Oh lawdy. I didn't see that o.o" --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:39, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
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Nah. Don't take this as an insult, because I know you are an intelligent guy. You are just kinda jitterish and stutterish. You see things twice as problematic as they are.
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They actually don't stop being separate/don't merge when inside the Gedo Mazo. I originally also thought that to be the case, but was wrong. They are just inside while chakra is syphoned from them. Had they merged, it would have been impossible to unseal them, without using creation of all things again, that is.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:34, July 24, 2014 (UTC)
   
I'd say there's going to be an uprising but, I dunno. Seems like something we'd all just have to go with. I'm fine with either all the same.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:11, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
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== Saying Hello and asking a Question ==
   
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Hello My Name is Paul Dy. How is your Day.--Paul Anthony Dy 16:48, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Broken Lists ==
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== Chat ==
Listen, I'm not sure if you or anyone else has noticed or if it's just me. Put whenever I go to the 'List of' parts of something that involves a group, be it jutsu, people, etc, it comes up as Database Error. I'm putting these up so that people can do their searching quickly. And as soon as the originals are fixed, which I hope is soon, I intend to take the ones I put up down.
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Can you please come onto the live chat ? Need to discuss something with as many sysops as possible. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 19:52, July 27, 2014 (UTC)
   
--[[User:YoukoTaichou|YoukoTaichou]] ([[User talk:YoukoTaichou|talk]]) 00:03, November 5, 2012 (UTC)
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== Kaguya ==
   
Meh, it wasn't unexpected, I just thought that after a couple of months, people would like to have quick links to particular types of moves.
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There was no need to lock the article, really.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:03, July 28, 2014 (UTC)
So is it alright to re-add the jutsu that only involve a clone in an attack like Lightning Transmission, Clone Great Explosion, etc as Clone Techniques? Or is the offer only for the 'List of' parts?
 
   
Actually, if you think about it, attacks that involve clones in an attack, like Lightning Transmission or Naruto Uzumaki Combo, could be considered Collaboration Jutsu in a sense. Though that might be pushing it.
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Articles are usually protected when edits are being reverted back and forth, or not? If you disagreed, you could just hit rollback and call it a day or something. But yeah, I brought it to talkpage, feel free to comment--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:13, July 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
Also, would you mind spreading around my reason for doing what I'm doing to the big editors so that they don't undo my work?
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== Gaara ==
--[[User:YoukoTaichou|YoukoTaichou]] ([[User talk:YoukoTaichou|talk]]) 01:19, November 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Just making sure. Most jutsu like those are listed under the Derived Jutsu list in Shadow Clone Jutsu anyway.
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Since I sense things quickly getting out of hand with that talk page, and wish to spare you the headache of breaking up another needless argument, I'll ask your opinion here since I know you and I can at least remain civil with each other. Gaara's eye rings and Magnet Release. The previous ruling found that we don't list Gaara as a user. Fine. He hasn't actually been seen using it, but I do think we should list him regardless. Orochimaru hasn't used Wood Release, and we list him because we know he has it. Tsunade's Lightning Release, I know that you know is a screwy situation. That being said, don't you think we have enough context clues (since that is a viable means of drawing a canon conclusion from any literature) to say that Gaara does?
   
So I got the okay for the 'List-of' alternate links then?
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* His father, a Magnet Release user, has the same markings.
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* He has those exact markings and is the jinchūriki of a tailed beast that can use Magnet Release.
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** The argument, used by some, that Gaara's marks are from insomnia was never actually stated in either the anime or the manga. That argument, itself, was speculation born from Part I, when he was stated to not have slept since he was very young.
   
Anyway, would you mind spreading the word, I'd really appreciate it; I don't really know who the 'bosses' of this wikia are.
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You and I both know that no author on the face of the planet does that for shits and giggles. I also don't believe that Kishimoto will write it in a databook. I could be wrong, but again, authors simply don't spoon feed their readers every minute detail of information. Sometimes you have to put two and two together and Kishimoto has all but flat out said it just by showing the scene of Gaara's father gaining the ''exact same'' markings as his son.
In exchange I'll send you a youtube link to a vid that will make you die laughing.
 
   
--[[User:YoukoTaichou|YoukoTaichou]] ([[User talk:YoukoTaichou|talk]]) 02:00, November 5, 2012 (UTC)
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Your thoughts? I'd really appreciate it because I really don't want another drawn out, insult ridden, argument to form on a talk page meant to further the betterment of our information here on the wiki. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 21:12, July 31, 2014 (UTC)
   
== deleted topic ==
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:Correction, Gamabunta attributed those rings to insomnia--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:19, July 31, 2014 (UTC)
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::<sup><small>[Edit Conflict]</small></sup> What Elveonora said, Gamabunta stated it in [[Naruto's Ninja Handbook|Episode 78]] of the anime. I can't be certain, but it might also be stated in either [[The Naruto Shinobi Handbook!!|Chapter 134]] or [[A Storm-Like Battle!!|Chapter 135]] in the manga. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 21:21, July 31, 2014 (UTC)
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::: Gamabunta also stated that Gaara never had any sleep his entire life (lie) and that Shukaku eats the souls of those hosts that fall asleep (also false). Gamabunta's statements, are also, hearsay, while Gaara's father demonstrating the rings is visual evidence, which, as anyone who studies criminal justice knows, trumps hearsay. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 21:25, July 31, 2014 (UTC)
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::::Sorry, But I'm going with a statement from a toad in the actual manga over a "guy on the internet"'s feelings. EDIT: @Foxie, no offense meant, but you telling us it's not insomnia despite the manga having told us it was insomnia is just too much :P--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:33, July 31, 2014 (UTC)
   
Why? It's completely valid... you didn't even put up a reason--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:13, November 5, 2012 (UTC)
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What the hell? Don't use my page as a staging ground for this fight? Take it back to Gaara's talk page.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:37, July 31, 2014 (UTC)
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:There's no fight, just some friendly exchange of opinions.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:46, July 31, 2014 (UTC)
   
The Anko one. It was brought up before but never concluded. In my opinion, canon/filler should have been separated for a long while already... sounds like lots of work, I know. Many manga/databook references can be provided that prove the sea arc to be incorrect. Basically the animator gave Anko a false background which contradicts with facts--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 02:35, November 5, 2012 (UTC)
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Hey Shouldnt Naruto's Jutsu be updated with http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Scale_Powder_Creation
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Since the page was made and it has as user Naruto
   
== What can I do? ==
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But it doesnt display on Naruto's page....
   
What can I do to improve this wiki? [[User:Randomfvideos|Randomfvideos]] ([[User talk:Randomfvideos|talk]]) 01:08, November 5, 2012 (UTC)
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[[User:Matianu.alexandruionut|Matianu.alexandruionut]] ([[User talk:Matianu.alexandruionut|talk]]) 12:29, August 8, 2014 (UTC) Hey there.... Shouldnt we also put the Steam ninjutsu and Acid Creation on Naruto's jutsu page ? Since is not there.... But the pages were already made.
   
== Re: Scissor Pincers ==
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http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Acid_Creation
Yes it is. While your at it, take away my rollback status because I don't want anything to do with this site, thanks largely in part to Cerez flaming me because he didn't like me tagging a page that has literally nothing important on it on the wiki. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 23:13, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
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http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Steam_Ninjutsu
   
== The "other wiki" ==
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[[User:Matianu.alexandruionut|Matianu.alexandruionut]] ([[User talk:Matianu.alexandruionut|talk]]) 12:37, August 8, 2014 (UTC) Okay i see. Sorry im new to this.... :)
   
Gladimir, c'est moi Shirley. This is my last communicã as it is no longer safe ''at that place''. Hide yourself and wait for the signal mon ami.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:07, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
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== Re: Regarding Rabbit Monster ==
   
Lul. Roundabout way of asking if you've seen the revived [[http://naruto.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_Answers answers wikia]. Also, take your medicine :/ --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:30, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
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He says "No way, mother... here!" and then "It has... no human form!? This is no Ten-Tails Transformation through mother's will. (-) It has no stability!!". The (-) part is a little hard to translate. It's something about how the tailed beasts in Naruto's earlier attack called out to begin to split or so... • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:25, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
'[[Forum:Answers_Wiki|Cause we asked nicely]], and no-one seemed against it._.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:49, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
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==TBB Rasenshuriken==
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I also disagreed with @Tau on that matter, I thought it was ridiculous that it was a TSB made up this technique. Just curious, if you disagreed with that as well, why did you allow @Tau to confirm that the TBB Rasenshuriken was made from a TSB? Only to change it now? Again, just a genuine question. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User:WindStar7125]] [[User talk:WindStar7125|<sup>(Talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|<sub>(Contributions)</sub>]] 18:05, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Archives ==
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Oh, OK :). I see you're trying to lessen the amount of speculation on this wiki. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User:WindStar7125]] [[User talk:WindStar7125|<sup>(Talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|<sub>(Contributions)</sub>]] 18:10, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
I remember you saying that you use monobook. Does the script for lowering priority of editing archives affect monobbok in any way? I tried <code>?useskin=monobook</code> and I didn't see any change. Just thought of asking you.— {{User:UltimateSupreme/SigCode|16:10 UTC|Tuesday|18 December 2012}}
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== Gaara and Magnet Release ==
:Fine... Well, I read somewhere that the {{Tlx|ArchiveList}} doesnot work properly sometimes. Do you know anything about it?— {{User:UltimateSupreme/SigCode|16:23 UTC|Tuesday|18 December 2012}}
 
   
== Partner panel ==
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I'm not interested in an edit war, only in restoring what the initial consensus came to by undoing the edits Elve made by himself. I was under the impression you disagreed with him.--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 19:01, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
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: I find it hard to believe that you're okay with this. You surely know we won't be given any more evidence after this with the manga coming to its end and Gaara's importance over as far as the story is concerned. At what point do we say "enough" and do what is blatantly made obvious to us by the author? I say this not to continue arguing with you over a discussion you closed but because I vehemently disagree with an issue that has this much evidence in its favor being swept under the carpet. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 20:58, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
I thought the partner panel is not just for Akatsuki, as I see [[J]] and [[J's Partner|his partner]], [[Killer B]] and [[A]], and etc. [[User:Yatanogarasu|Yatanogarasu]] ([[User_talk:Yatanogarasu|Talk]]) 23:33, December 19, 2012 (UTC)
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:: I won't hold your decision against you, and I'll make peace with the current state of affairs, but you definitely got one thing right, this wikia fails a little more because of that decision. Thanks for trying anyway.--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 21:01, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Re: Hinata's lovely speech in the most recent chapter ==
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Understood. As much as I hate it, you're right. I suppose I'll just have to hope to all Nine Divines Kishi gives us something more that they can't refute. Anyways, sorry for all the trouble. I don't go into an argument ''trying'' to cause issues but that always seems to be the result. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 21:14, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
I don't know, it's a bit too much, maybe. Are you looking for something specific? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:23, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
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Hey, i was wondering something. for this [http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140804094415/naruto/images/2/27/Utakata.png|image]:
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I was thinking of editing it to remove everything but Utakata himself, as he is the point and focal point of image. tl;dr i was going to remove everything else 'cept for him over a transparent background. I know you guys don't seem to edit pictures, but as long as the main part is still there, is it acceptable?--[[User:RexGodwin|RexGodwin]] ([[User talk:RexGodwin|talk]]) 00:46, August 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Protect Site ==
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==Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken==
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Should this page be locked from editing? Editors like Bruh25 keep adding unconfirmed information on the page. There has been a crazy amount of editing on this page recently, and it's getting annoying. I'm sick of editors doing what they feel like doing and what they see fit, but I can't do anything about it (you can though, you're a sysop) so even if I can't edit it after it's locked, for the better of the wiki, can it be locked? The warning isn't working because user Animevsmanga still edited the article regardless of it. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User:WindStar7125]] [[User talk:WindStar7125|<sup>(Talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|<sub>(Contributions)</sub>]] 20:27, August 16, 2014 (UTC)
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:Never mind, it's been locked. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User:WindStar7125]] [[User talk:WindStar7125|<sup>(Talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|<sub>(Contributions)</sub>]] 20:52, August 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
Can you please [[Special:ProtectSite|ProtectSite]]?''' ~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:black;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 16:12, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
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Considering you removed Truth-Seeking Ball as the parent technique to Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken, can you remove Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken and Multiple Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken from the Derived Jutsu section in the TSB article? I can't seem to remove it. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User:WindStar7125]] [[User talk:WindStar7125|<sup>(Talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|<sub>(Contributions)</sub>]] 23:03, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
:There's no reason to protect the site. There's no mass vandalism or anything that would require a site lockdown. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:47, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
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Question: why did you remove it again?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 09:52, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
::Kinda. There's this vandal whose vandalism is quite distinctive. He or she erases a lot of info from articles, replacing some stuff with gibberish, and some with texts like "Great job, I never thought of it like that" or "Thanks for the answer, it all makes sense now". He or she can change their IP address across many ranges, most likely using some sort of proxy. While range-blocks can work sometimes, for example, 220.255.xxx.xxx IPs are quite common to be range-blocked here, this vandal requires a more far-reaching block. They're at it at the moment, and it's not the first time. They've been more disruptive in the past but simply blocking each IP they use is pointless, because they readily discard it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:56, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
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That's what the manga makes it look like though. Question: once the anime reaches that point and Pierrot makes Naruto use his TSB to form TBB, will you add it back?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:31, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
:::Oh. I haven't noticed that lately though... --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:58, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
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Funny--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:59, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
::::Any more questions :P?
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::::Thats a typical spambot behaviour.''' ~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:black;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 06:16, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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Never been called Speyjuuk before. That's a first. I'm probs gonna need a page of nicknames soon xD --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:29, August 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
I do think we need a bit more protection. Seems like the wikia has just been left bare for vandals to have their way with it. Except that we have good editors and such.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:27, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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== TSB ===
:Omnibender already did it.''' ~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:black;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 12:04, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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I leave that talk page in your capable hands as I sense that it would go badly if I joined in now. But, as I said last night, that discussion just got inordinately stupid. Good luck to you, good sir. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 15:48, August 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
::Gonna be honest, after my comment I spent most of yesterday bedridden sick. Sorry about not responding.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:56, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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We have 2-3 inactive sysops (ShonenSuki, Simant and Omnibender it would seem?) wouldn't it make sense to take away at least ShonenSuki's sysop status and in case Simant doesn't show up soon, so then his? Omni either doesn't give a damn anymore and left or he is busy, but he may show up eventually.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:43, August 20, 2014 (UTC)
Please activate chat in your wiki! It's a request.{{unsigned|Sasuke The Destructor}}
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:Omni isn't exactly inactive (he's only been inactive for about 2-3 weeks), but I agree that Suki's flag should be removed, he's clearly not interested in the series anymore. This might be better taken up in a [[Board:Wiki Discussions|thread on the forums]] though.... --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:44, August 20, 2014 (UTC)
:The answer to that will be a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-MSqnoGXhs <insert answer>] we're not an online board, we're an encyclopaedia.--[[User:White_Flash|White Flash]] <sup>([[User talk:White_Flash|Contact]])</sup> 16:24, January 16, 2013 (UTC)
 

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I need help, please Edit

Ya, I wondered about that, too. Gotta see what the raw says. Seelentau 愛 14:12, April 2, 2014 (UTC)

So... Edit

it seems we have a deeper problem in this wiki. I got that feeling ever since ShounenSuki left. He was the calm that held the wiki together and now that he's gone, every discussion turns ape-shit in a couple of hours. See Blaze Release. I asked Elve-kun to start a discussion and left for maybe four hours, and when I come back, there are multiple replies with accusations and bolded words, because we all know that someone who bolds his words is right and the others are wrong.

Ever since I began here, I only wanted to clarify stuff, since I'm most likely the one with the most Naruto knowledge, at least in the German fandom. I never intended to give my personal views on happenings, every discussion I began was based on the manga and what he gives us. But most of the time, I'm confronted with ignorance and words like bias or so.

You remember when Suki did his New Years Fact Checking or whatever he called it? He explained some stuff and BAMM, everyone believed him, no big deal. Now I do the same, I explain to you guys what Enton, Senjutsu and all that stuff is, all based on the manga and everything, but in return I get "discussions" as seen on the Blaze Release talk page.

If it was a random fan who wanted to tell us otherwise because he simply doesn't know better, I'd do it like you and not start a big discussion. But I am by no means a random fan. As I said before, I'm Seelentau, I know my stuff and I believe you guys should trust me a little more, instead of telling me to go and beat dead dolphin horse babies or whatever.

Anyways, I think we need to find a new calm. I originally intended to be it, but apparently, I'm not suited for it. So what do we do? I don't wanna go the current road any longer (or at all). • Seelentau 愛 22:00, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

If I may offer a solution: maybe Seelentau should replace Suki as a sysop in the capacity of the site's translator. Considering Suki has, in effect, left the wiki, I think this is the most appropriate thing to do. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 22:02, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
The problem we are having is that everyone's ego is damn too high and each one of us wants to be right and command the others. That's pretty much all. Having had a single figure (Suki) that we followed had its pros imo. Because now, we all want to be Suki. To put it into better words: People demand democracy and want to overthrow the monarch. But once the rule is in their hands, they start fighting against each other--Elveonora (talk) 23:04, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, both of you for your feedback. The decision on who should be a sysop is not mine to make. That lies with Dantman.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 23:18, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
Ya, thank you guys for replying. But I don't think making me a Sysop is going to solve the core problem. It doesn't make me more correct than the rest of you guys or in any way better than you. I think the only little thing most of you need to understand is that I in fact see things as black and white when it comes to the manga. At least 95% of everything I write during discussions is based on what the manga gave us. That's also why I don't understand anyone who calls me biased or a fanboy. It could very well be that I'm blinded by myself or so, but if you really want to prove me wrong, calling me something or saying I beat things isn't the right way. I mean, we all work towards the same goal and when I present you guys a possible mistake, it's your job to prove me wrong, not prove why you're right or call me anything. For example, I wrote on the Blaze Release discussion

"that it was cast from one eye, and then manipulated with the other. - but that is not the case. • Seelentau 愛 議 21:38, June 25, 2014 (UTC)"
Now, I say that never happened and the easiest way to prove me wrong would simply be to give me a manga chapter where it happened. From there on, we could discuss further.
Another thing that comes to mind, again related to Blaze Release, is how some of you handle new information. Sasuke used no Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi, but a normal Kagutsuchi (whatever that is). Instead of accepting it as something new, you guys say that it's not something that needs to be discussed, for whatever reason. But I believe that it shines a new light on things. So what are we going to do? • Seelentau 愛 09:33, June 26, 2014 (UTC)

The main problem lies in the manga itself. I don't know how you guys see it, but in the past, everything that happened in the manga was easy to understand and document. Lately, there pops up so much stuff that's not explained completely or just gives flimsy hints towards things we already took for granted, so the the fans are forced to link the recent events with the "old knowledge" by themselves. Naturally, people interpret certain key elements different than others, and that's where discussions start. Just look at the ridiculously long debates about "Naruto having Magma Release", "Naruto and the 9 Tailed Beasts inside him in general", "Kaguya's eye being a Sharingan or not", "Blaze Release being something we did not think about before or so..." and it goes on and on and on.
Of course it's a problem how quickly discussions start to get out of control. I deliberately refrain myself from participating in any of these debates as I know that I will quickly lose any motivation to come to the wiki itself - just because it never goes forward. To spreak in fanboy-language, it reminds me of Izanagi.
Making somebody an admin for this reason is again not legit enough for me, but that's not for me to decide either. For future discussions with seemingly no end: A good action in my eyes is to, for once, not continue until every participant hates each other even more while there's still no consensus reached, but instead agree on a way to write down the discussed subject in a way everybody can agree on. If that's not the case, write down both versions as possible probabilities. I know this wiki does not include speculation, but a conclusion based on the own argumentation is also speculation in its own way. I mean, nobody can't really say what's going on in Kishimoto's head, right?
The argument "I can't go back on what I said as I am 100% sure it's right" is also no warranty for a victory in the discussion. The opposing participants think so just as well. What gives anybody the right to think that his or her thoughts are superior to others? Norleon (talk) 10:36, June 26, 2014 (UTC)
@Seelentau: I don't recall anybody has called you a fanboy. The term get's thrown at everyone else though. That being said, in response to "that it was cast from one eye, and then manipulated with the other. - but that is not the case" comment, when we first see the Kagutsuchi, in chapter 464 states that he Sasuke casts the Amaterasu with his left eye, then manipulates it with the right, which we see in what basically amounts to slow motion in this current chapter. Unless of course you mean to tell me that what has been in the chapter for damn near four years is wrong then by the Old, this wiki we have much much bigger problems. And to a "normal" Kagutsuchi because it dropped the prefix, I will point out to this technique which I was told over and over had to have Wind Release, despite not having it as a suffix.
So what are we going to do? At this point, I want to us to stop assuming everything we see is new unless it is actually explained as being new. We have a wealth of information that Kishimoto has already provided us, if he isn't explaining anything now, then we must assume, and I know you really really hate using that word, that it is because we should already know it. But I've stated this 100 times before and naturally that blanket decision is not mine alone to make, but you know that.
@Norleon: Izanami. But I see your point. That would be the best course of action, it opens itself up to other issues. For example, picking at the "Naruto and the tailed beasts" thing, that got stupid when it was brought up that because Minato also had a talking tailed beast him in, that that made him a jinchuriki, but when Naruto had 9 of basically the same thing, he wasn't. Then it spiraled into stupid from there. Adjusting it to be more ambiguous could work, but then by that same token it would have to be adjusted to be just as ambiguous for Minato, and so on. And that doesn't get into the realm of infoboxes, categories, ect. The idea is sound and damn may even work. But such ambiguity would have ripples at everything.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 11:41, June 26, 2014 (UTC)
I'm all for us stating more possibilities in the articles. Why are we so afraid of doing things such as: "Note: Hagoromo proclaimed that his mother has power of the Sharingan, while an identical eye of Madara's was called a Rinnegan. Sasuke's eye which is similar is also a Rinnegan. Currently it's unknown which is true" etc.--Elveonora (talk) 11:46, June 26, 2014 (UTC)
@TU: I don't know if I was called it directly, but I was called it indirectly, I think. But that doesn't bother me.
Regarding the Blaze Release thing, you're right (as far as I remember the Japanese text). So if he uses his right eye to only manipulate it, then how do you explain the instances where he has only his right eye opened? The fight against Obito comes to mind. Also, the Lava Rasen Shuriken itself is ambiguous, I or instance say it's not Wind Release. So I wouldn't count it as an example. (See? That's what discussions are. Not the horse beating thing.)
How does one explain something to be new? Isn't it new if it simply has never happened before? • Seelentau 愛 13:20, June 27, 2014 (UTC)
Flames created off panel or "quick" (thus still off panel). We don't always see Naruto creating the necessary Wind Release: Rasengan or see him go through the motions of producing shadow clones, but we know he's doing that. But I do not plan to go through the Blaze Release confusion in my talk page. Consider it me losing if that'll make you feel better.
But what can be considered new has to actually be new. Small variation of we already know, isn't something totally world breaking new. If it was, damn near more than half of just about everything we see could be labeled a new technique, new trait, new anything, simply because it wasn't 1:1 of what we have seen before. As I stated before, regrettably using the Blaze Release I just said I didn't want to use again, we know his right eye manipulates the flames while his left creates it. What we don't need is two dedicated panels every time Sasuke points black fire arrows at something. Just as we don't need something of 4 panels for Naruto preparing a Rasenshuriken, parts of techniques are cut out to save time, because Kishimoto expects us to know what's happening because he already showed us it before. But something is new when it is actually something that has never happened before. If something happens and we are literally unable to go "Ok in the past, X happened so Y", taking into account the very first use of something, subsequent usage and the like, then that is something new. What we saw with Sasuke wasn't new because we know that is how it has always worked, we just have to use the dreaded common sense to understand that every piece of it is likely not going to be drawn down because it was essentially been a waste.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 13:47, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

weird Edit

I could have sword that I did put your comment back. Although those beers may have something to do with it--Elveonora (talk) 22:43, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Intervention Edit

The irony of that is astonishing since you guys replaced a much higher quality image with the current one simply because it was "too close up". --Mandon (talk) 22:46, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Madara Uchiha editing Edit

Look, I am not saying that I am a die-hard fan of Madara, I am just saying that sections like his Sharingan should have more specifics. A lot of cutting out took place after I spent several weeks editing it like I did other pages. I have no problem with simplifying the sections. It's just when you put a lot of work into something, you feel bad when basically it isn't considered good enough and plain cut off. I am not trying to start an edit war I am just speaking my mind.Steveo920, 18:22, July 7, 2014

Sorry if my writing style comes off as an obsessed fan, but I am not. Personally, I hate narcissists. Also, I am not asking you to restore or give the okay for me to restore my edits. I also have been simplifying sections all over the site. I am just saying you didn't have to announce to all readers that I'm "waving my dick to Madara". Steveo920, 19;34, July 7, 2014

Hey, I am open to constructive criticism. I was just giving my two cents to the subject on editing. I you think there was something wrong with my editing, that's fine. I'm all for making this site seem professional, just keep it civil and not embarrassing should others read it. Steveo920, 20:38, July 7, 2014

Request Edit

Hi. May I ask you to look at this talkpage? It's about a missing derived jutsu and nobody answered until now. If you don't agree with what I wrote, please tell me where I'm wrong. Thanks in advance! Norleon (talk) 18:05, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Talk Page Edit

Hi, there is no Talk Page for the Naruto Uzumaki Region Combo, I didn't edit immediately because I am not sure if we should add Flight Technique or Six Paths Sage Technique as a parent--MERCURIOUS (talk) 19:27, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Well, I am not sure how Naruto would attack a flying opponent from all directions(from below as well) if he cannot fly.--MERCURIOUS (talk) 21:03, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Matianu.alexandruionutEdit

I'm not getting in an edit war with him. Can you deal with him on the Rinnegan Shifting Technique page? WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task (Talk) (Contributions) 19:11, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

GanttaEdit

This Gantta guy keeps reverting edits on the Kamui page. Can you please tell him that on this wiki, we do things democratically and don't define things to suit any one person's needs? I don't wanna get into an edit war with this guy; he's a new editor and is already becoming annoying. WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task (Talk) (Contributions) 16:11, July 19, 2014 (UTC)


Evidence that contrast your second paragraph was offered up in the talk section. I guess "this gantta guy" is a democratic deadbeat.

--Gantta (talk) 17:16, July 19, 2014 (UTC)Ganta

hello,nomme me sysop svp et je te mets des pages nouvelles--Sasuke449 (talk) 14:46, July 24, 2014 (UTC)

cool Edit

Although this time I'm not talking about any merger, just listing Kaguya as jinchuuriki of the Tailed Beasts, since they are inside of her. Not listing Gedo Mazo. ok... I got it already, you want it separate at all costs, but is there a reason not to list Kaguya?--Elveonora (talk) 15:14, July 24, 2014 (UTC)

Nah. Don't take this as an insult, because I know you are an intelligent guy. You are just kinda jitterish and stutterish. You see things twice as problematic as they are. They actually don't stop being separate/don't merge when inside the Gedo Mazo. I originally also thought that to be the case, but was wrong. They are just inside while chakra is syphoned from them. Had they merged, it would have been impossible to unseal them, without using creation of all things again, that is.--Elveonora (talk) 15:34, July 24, 2014 (UTC)

Saying Hello and asking a Question Edit

Hello My Name is Paul Dy. How is your Day.--Paul Anthony Dy 16:48, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

Chat Edit

Can you please come onto the live chat ? Need to discuss something with as many sysops as possible. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 19:52, July 27, 2014 (UTC)

Kaguya Edit

There was no need to lock the article, really.--Elveonora (talk) 15:03, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

Articles are usually protected when edits are being reverted back and forth, or not? If you disagreed, you could just hit rollback and call it a day or something. But yeah, I brought it to talkpage, feel free to comment--Elveonora (talk) 15:13, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

Gaara Edit

Since I sense things quickly getting out of hand with that talk page, and wish to spare you the headache of breaking up another needless argument, I'll ask your opinion here since I know you and I can at least remain civil with each other. Gaara's eye rings and Magnet Release. The previous ruling found that we don't list Gaara as a user. Fine. He hasn't actually been seen using it, but I do think we should list him regardless. Orochimaru hasn't used Wood Release, and we list him because we know he has it. Tsunade's Lightning Release, I know that you know is a screwy situation. That being said, don't you think we have enough context clues (since that is a viable means of drawing a canon conclusion from any literature) to say that Gaara does?

  • His father, a Magnet Release user, has the same markings.
  • He has those exact markings and is the jinchūriki of a tailed beast that can use Magnet Release.
    • The argument, used by some, that Gaara's marks are from insomnia was never actually stated in either the anime or the manga. That argument, itself, was speculation born from Part I, when he was stated to not have slept since he was very young.

You and I both know that no author on the face of the planet does that for shits and giggles. I also don't believe that Kishimoto will write it in a databook. I could be wrong, but again, authors simply don't spoon feed their readers every minute detail of information. Sometimes you have to put two and two together and Kishimoto has all but flat out said it just by showing the scene of Gaara's father gaining the exact same markings as his son.

Your thoughts? I'd really appreciate it because I really don't want another drawn out, insult ridden, argument to form on a talk page meant to further the betterment of our information here on the wiki. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 21:12, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

Correction, Gamabunta attributed those rings to insomnia--Elveonora (talk) 21:19, July 31, 2014 (UTC)
[Edit Conflict] What Elveonora said, Gamabunta stated it in Episode 78 of the anime. I can't be certain, but it might also be stated in either Chapter 134 or Chapter 135 in the manga. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 21:21, July 31, 2014 (UTC)
Gamabunta also stated that Gaara never had any sleep his entire life (lie) and that Shukaku eats the souls of those hosts that fall asleep (also false). Gamabunta's statements, are also, hearsay, while Gaara's father demonstrating the rings is visual evidence, which, as anyone who studies criminal justice knows, trumps hearsay. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 21:25, July 31, 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, But I'm going with a statement from a toad in the actual manga over a "guy on the internet"'s feelings. EDIT: @Foxie, no offense meant, but you telling us it's not insomnia despite the manga having told us it was insomnia is just too much :P--Elveonora (talk) 21:33, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

What the hell? Don't use my page as a staging ground for this fight? Take it back to Gaara's talk page.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 21:37, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

There's no fight, just some friendly exchange of opinions.--Elveonora (talk) 21:46, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Shouldnt Naruto's Jutsu be updated with http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Scale_Powder_Creation Since the page was made and it has as user Naruto

But it doesnt display on Naruto's page....

Matianu.alexandruionut (talk) 12:29, August 8, 2014 (UTC) Hey there.... Shouldnt we also put the Steam ninjutsu and Acid Creation on Naruto's jutsu page ? Since is not there.... But the pages were already made.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Acid_Creation http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Steam_Ninjutsu

Matianu.alexandruionut (talk) 12:37, August 8, 2014 (UTC) Okay i see. Sorry im new to this.... :)

Re: Regarding Rabbit Monster Edit

He says "No way, mother... here!" and then "It has... no human form!? This is no Ten-Tails Transformation through mother's will. (-) It has no stability!!". The (-) part is a little hard to translate. It's something about how the tailed beasts in Naruto's earlier attack called out to begin to split or so... • Seelentau 愛 10:25, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

TBB RasenshurikenEdit

I also disagreed with @Tau on that matter, I thought it was ridiculous that it was a TSB made up this technique. Just curious, if you disagreed with that as well, why did you allow @Tau to confirm that the TBB Rasenshuriken was made from a TSB? Only to change it now? Again, just a genuine question. WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task (Talk) (Contributions) 18:05, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, OK :). I see you're trying to lessen the amount of speculation on this wiki. WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task (Talk) (Contributions) 18:10, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

Gaara and Magnet Release Edit

I'm not interested in an edit war, only in restoring what the initial consensus came to by undoing the edits Elve made by himself. I was under the impression you disagreed with him.--Reliops (talk) 19:01, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

I find it hard to believe that you're okay with this. You surely know we won't be given any more evidence after this with the manga coming to its end and Gaara's importance over as far as the story is concerned. At what point do we say "enough" and do what is blatantly made obvious to us by the author? I say this not to continue arguing with you over a discussion you closed but because I vehemently disagree with an issue that has this much evidence in its favor being swept under the carpet. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 20:58, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
I won't hold your decision against you, and I'll make peace with the current state of affairs, but you definitely got one thing right, this wikia fails a little more because of that decision. Thanks for trying anyway.--Reliops (talk) 21:01, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

Understood. As much as I hate it, you're right. I suppose I'll just have to hope to all Nine Divines Kishi gives us something more that they can't refute. Anyways, sorry for all the trouble. I don't go into an argument trying to cause issues but that always seems to be the result. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 21:14, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

TransparencyEdit

Hey, i was wondering something. for this [1]: I was thinking of editing it to remove everything but Utakata himself, as he is the point and focal point of image. tl;dr i was going to remove everything else 'cept for him over a transparent background. I know you guys don't seem to edit pictures, but as long as the main part is still there, is it acceptable?--RexGodwin (talk) 00:46, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast RasenshurikenEdit

Should this page be locked from editing? Editors like Bruh25 keep adding unconfirmed information on the page. There has been a crazy amount of editing on this page recently, and it's getting annoying. I'm sick of editors doing what they feel like doing and what they see fit, but I can't do anything about it (you can though, you're a sysop) so even if I can't edit it after it's locked, for the better of the wiki, can it be locked? The warning isn't working because user Animevsmanga still edited the article regardless of it. WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task (Talk) (Contributions) 20:27, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

Never mind, it's been locked. WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task (Talk) (Contributions) 20:52, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

TSB ArticleEdit

Considering you removed Truth-Seeking Ball as the parent technique to Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken, can you remove Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken and Multiple Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken from the Derived Jutsu section in the TSB article? I can't seem to remove it. WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task (Talk) (Contributions) 23:03, August 18, 2014 (UTC)

Question: why did you remove it again?--Elveonora (talk) 09:52, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

That's what the manga makes it look like though. Question: once the anime reaches that point and Pierrot makes Naruto use his TSB to form TBB, will you add it back?--Elveonora (talk) 11:31, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

Funny--Elveonora (talk) 11:59, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

lol Edit

Never been called Speyjuuk before. That's a first. I'm probs gonna need a page of nicknames soon xD --SuperSajuuk Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 12:29, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

TSB =Edit

I leave that talk page in your capable hands as I sense that it would go badly if I joined in now. But, as I said last night, that discussion just got inordinately stupid. Good luck to you, good sir. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 15:48, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

question Edit

We have 2-3 inactive sysops (ShonenSuki, Simant and Omnibender it would seem?) wouldn't it make sense to take away at least ShonenSuki's sysop status and in case Simant doesn't show up soon, so then his? Omni either doesn't give a damn anymore and left or he is busy, but he may show up eventually.--Elveonora (talk) 18:43, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

Omni isn't exactly inactive (he's only been inactive for about 2-3 weeks), but I agree that Suki's flag should be removed, he's clearly not interested in the series anymore. This might be better taken up in a thread on the forums though.... --SuperSajuuk Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 18:44, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

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