"I'm very poor at conveying my actual feelings in written text" no worries lad, no further words needed, we hurt those we love the most after all ;) Just know it's mutual ;D--Elveonora (talk) 11:59, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
Re: King-Kong Sized Text
Yep, it's due to the Darwin stuff. I just set my zoom level for Narutopedia to 90% so it's not as bad. Nothing we can do about it though, it's meant to accommodate those with big screens. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 17:49, November 19, 2013 (UTC)
- Yup, Darwin increased the font-size. Similar to Spey, I was using a 90% zoom, so didn't realise. I have fixed it now. Just clear your cache.--~UltimateSupreme 18:00, November 19, 2013 (UTC)
Link to Interview
First, happy birthday, have fun. Second, I was reading the Ten Tails Revival arc talkpage and was wandering if I may have the interview link that you read regarding the finale of Naruto being broken up into 3 parts. Thank you so much. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 23:37, December 12, 2013 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
Return of Madara Arc Beginning
Since you are the one who founded this page on the wiki, then I think I should bring this topic up on your home page. Granted, I have posted the same message on the Arc's talkpage. Here it is: "I am sorry to keep nagging about this, but after careful consideration, I think the arc should start at 656... The arc is called the "Return of Madara Arc". In this chapter, this is when Madara truly returns, as he is alive in the last panel. I think everything after it is more like "Madara's Last Stand" than his return. It's like calling the Ten-Tails Revival Arc it's respected name, however only after the Ten-Tails is revived and starts it's rampage. Also, I think the two-page spread at the end of 655 sort of looks like the end of an arc to me. Also, in 656, this is when Madara truly takes control of the war, as he forces Obito to revive him. If the community decides not to change the beginning of the arc, then I think we need to work on the page and put everything in it's rightful place, as the first picture and paragraph are from the Ten-Tails Revival Arc. These are just my thoughts, take your time and think about it. However, I respect any decision that the community decides. Have a good day!" --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 20:44, January 4, 2014 (UTC)
Question about Sections
What a fancy new avatar, scared the **** outta me. But not gonna work on me, you've got yourself a problem young man, a big one: "Likewise, my top five least favorite characters, in order, are: Kabuto Yakushi, Sakura Haruno, Karin, Suigetsu, and Jūgo" 5 minutes for you to come up with an explanation! Well... I can understand Sakura, but Karin deserves reevaluation after having done that epic chains thing.... the rest, someone needs serious explainin' to do ;) --Elveonora (talk) 21:51, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
I'm glad you took your time to respond, much appreciated. I wouldn't say it was without foundation. Personality/morally-wise, allegiance/loyalty-wise and regarding his actions, Kabuto indeed is a very conflicted person. It was shown already back during Part I. Chunin Exams when he healed Hinata. I really can't think of a reason why he did do that other than because deep inside, he is still the old Kabuto from before Oro found him - a person who first is a medic before anything else. I would even go as far as to say he has split personality of sorts, but I don't blame the guy, most people would have gone crazy in his place... he was still young and mentally fragile and it hit him hard and also then Orochimaru took advantage of this fragile mind and twisted it into a strange individual. He and Obito aren't that different imo. much less than you make it seem. Despite being both adults, deep inside, they are just children crying out loud for recognition and love since those things were taken from them, but the world doesn't answer, they feel betrayed and full of hate, so they decided to make the world listen by force.
Suigetsu hasn't had a defining moment yet you say? Taking a hit from Tailed Beast Ball for his friends and surviving shows badassness and character to me, he is also funny and kinda twisted. In fact Hydrification Technique makes the user seemingly mortally unaffected by physical damage as long as he is hydrated enough and has chakra, sort of immortality if you will, that ain't cool? Jugo has a great character, I really like him for some reason, he is more intelligent and kind than he appears and is very loyal and not really an evil person (he kills to protect tho), but you are right, he kinda sucks penises and isn't really thinking of his own future nor does he seem to have any ambitions beyond following his boyfriends. But again imo, Juugo has the brain, he just lacks will of his own. It can be understood tho I guess, he needed Kimimaro and now needs Sasuke to restrain his crazy persona and being an underling is his repayment for that. He is a prisoner in his own cage so to speak. Mutant powers are more badass to me than you give them credit for also. Like he ain't even a ninja with proper training it would seem yet can do plenty of shi* using his creepy appendixes and such ;)
Minato is a mixed mag, I like him as much as I dislike him and every following day I do either more/less than the another. He has his defining qualities but also lots of flaws. Partially he lives up to his hype and yet he doesn't ._. But I guess a portion of my dislike for him may also stem from him being a father to that stupid boring predictable Jesus with blonde head and a part of my liking for him may stem from his being a Tobirama wannabe... I mean, what's "original" about him anyway?--Elveonora (talk) 12:01, February 13, 2014 (UTC)
It's alright pal, we all need a hug once in a while and to let out what eats us from inside. I know exactly what you are talking about, I'm a third wheel so to speak as well. Barely anyone acknowledges my existence or cares about my needs or feelings. My brother has always been the one pampered with. I hardly have anything to wear, while he gets expensive clothing all the time (I have like two pairs of everything at most and many years old) T_T I guess you are right, even I feel like wearing a mask sometime in order to start anew, to forget the past.--Elveonora (talk) 17:06, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
Naruto is an Uzumaki, something tells me he will survive without third-party support. I expect inside of him awakening some hidden power, Rinnegan or something for plot reason or shi*, he will simply regain consciousness and heal, but that alone won't help him much I guess. I'm worried more about Sasuke, I sense a Rinnegan as well, something along the lines "Did I say Senju cells/DNA? I meant to say that chakra is enough" cheap BS. Sakura has proven that she doesn't suck completely, so she may live for now... I guess. But she is outta chakra, so she is gonna be a nuisance again rather than a help, so thinking again, right, **** should die. Ino will just take her place as a main medical ninja :D Wow, so much suspense I haven't felt in a while. Stuff's good, Kishi decided to prove he deserves the cash in the end I guess. Expecting Oro+Kabuto team-up some epic one million snakes no jutsu against Madara/Yamazetsuto. Karin's chains will come in handy and I expect the moment you had hoped for incoming as well, there's an opportunity for Juigetsu and Jugo to show something new as well.--Elveonora (talk) 13:10, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
Re: forum post
Agree with your post. We should be trying to make some effort to break the trend where every discussion on the forums has to be about improving the wiki. TBH, the forum names / descriptions should be updated so that users dont' feel intimidated into discussing the latest chapters / episode. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 22:08, March 5, 2014 (UTC)
- Indeed, I was thinking about maybe making a thread to suggest a new forum layout. Actually, thinking about it, I'll do just that :P --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 22:15, March 5, 2014 (UTC)
Some of the reasons that people are coming up with to prevent the forums from being used for discussions about the series are quite funny to read. I've give plenty of things that the users who do not want this to pass can do to avoid reading the forums, but it seems to be having no effect -.- --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 16:59, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
It ISN'T speculation
All three Sage Modes have shown they are very different in the physical enhancements. Kabuto and Hashirama, for instance, have shown greater agility and maneuverability (Kabuto's) and enhanced endurance and regeneration (Hashirama) over Naruto, Minato, and Jiraiya's which has explicitly shown to enhance speed, strength, and durability. Kabuto lacks the strength and durability aspect from his battle with Itachi and Sasuke-an normal chokuto pierced his skin with no elemental enhancement, and he couldn't knock Itachi away in the taijutsu clashes with pure physical strength despite Itachi not having insane physical strength. It isn't speculation. Its pure manga FACT.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 04:26, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
- Then how do you explain, if Kabuto had Naruto's Sage Mode strength (which can toss Rhino's as big as Gamabunta or Kurama), why couldn't he sent Itachi flying with each taijutsu clash? An Itachi who didn't use Susanoo to anchor himself at all? If his Sage Mode had given him enhanced durability, why was he slashed and cut up by a normal sword?--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 04:34, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
- Chakra Disruption Blades are not normal blades. They are Madara's will given form and have shown to be three times sharper and more durable than steel. Bringing that up shows a lack of attention. And Preta Path, like all the Paths, have shown a massive amount of physical strength in feats beforehand. Oh and the reason why he couldn't break out? PRETA PATH WAS CONSUMING HIS CHAKRA! Do you ignore that? You ignore crucial facts mentioned about the above weapons and Paths, you ignore circumstances. Just so you can claim all Sage Modes are the same when they've empirically shown to be different.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 04:43, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
- ...it isn't an opinion. I'm going by what the manga has shown. Why does it need to be said when we've had these things laid out without being explicitly said? Ten Tailed Fox, that's a dishonest way to act on the wiki.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 04:48, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
The face wouldn't be half as funny without the text :D For the episode, it's one of my most favorite episodes of Naruto and the most re-watched one. It has choreography beyond perfection, great action, great use of soundtrack and so on. Had it followed the manga strictly, it would have been short and boring imo. I'm with Shak on this one, the guy has to work on another episode. I honestly liked it. Just forget a few frames of purposely bad art (it's not the same as bad animation, it was just 80's cartoon-like to make it more dramatic or something. Many years from now, once Naruto will be nothing but almost forgotten past, I would watch it again just for this specific episode, that much I enjoy it--Elveonora (talk) 16:56, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
hey i uploaded an image which was an black and white copy of an already uploaded image which i saw after uploading so now i had edited it in kabuto just because its having a lower resolution to be there so please dont undo it(Ravendra275 (talk) 17:02, March 14, 2014 (UTC))
I hope you are right! If the chat isn't active tomorrow or Thursday, then it'll be pretty strange and odd :/ --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 15:35, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
WHY DID YOU BLOCKED ME LAST YEAR? DON'T YOU KNOW THE SHAMENESS I FELT AFTER YOU DID THAT? PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT ME, BECAUSE OF THIS CERTAIN REASON, JUST THE VERY MINOR REASON YOU BLOCKED ME. I'M NOT YET AWARE OF THE RULES YOU KNOW. IT'S MY FIRST TIME EDITING AND THEN BLOCK?? WHY YOU DIDN'T LEAVE ME A WARNING OR A MESSEGE FIRST BEFORE YOU BLOCK ME? I STILL CANT GET OVER AFTER THE EMBARASSMENT YOU MADE ME FEEL. 2,000 EDITS? BLOCK ME?? I AM VERY THANKFUL TO SNAPPER2 WITH THE EDIT OF 20,000 THAT HE REMOVED YOUR BLOCK TO ME IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE HE UNDERSTANDS THAT IT'S MY FIRST TIME TO EDIT AND NOT YET AWARE OF THE RULES. I WILL LEARN TO HACK YOUR ACCOUNT AND I'LL MAKE SURE YOU DIE REGRETING IT. YOU BETTER RESIGN AS AN ADMIN. I'M SURE YOU WILL BLOCK THIS ACCOUNT FOR THIS REASON! 545phil (talk) 08:42, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
Sorry. From now on, I will never edit from this wiki anymore. Sorry I said that. Due to how I really feel that's why I did it. But let's admit, we are both wrong. I will stop editing here and mind my own business from now on. Goodbye. 545phil (talk) 09:00, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
Hai, I was wondering if you had a Skype account. It's no biggie if you don't have one, but it'd be useful to chat with ya in a more private area :P --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 18:40, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
- Heh, what's your Facebook ? You can send me a DM on Twitter if you don't want to reveal it in public. :P --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 20:29, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
The video game jutsu articles
As much as I have been the one to block those users before, that was more out of the creation of duplicate articles. Having looked up quite a bit on the topic, I've generally been able to turn them into half decent articles. From the original, pre threaded forum topic, the main user who discussed this with me was Snapper. I've agreed not to keep creating those articles while the discussion carried on, though it never quite picks up steam. We have agreed that a centralized page is the way to go, but there's still no clear consensus on how the page should be. In the mean time, I mend the articles that do pop-up, because that means less back-tracking and looking up when the centralized pages do go forward, as much as I dislike the "cleaning up" after others' poor edits. I half suspect that those accounts that make those articles use that list, because pretty much all the articles they create are from the games listed there, but it still doesn't make sense for me that they create it with such bad English right in the title if they were just copying it. They also use the game translation instead of the literal one, and don't add the kanji and rōmaji, despite them being available there. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:43, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not against individual articles myself, either before or during that topic's discussion I went ahead and created individual articles for all the combos of most characters who debuted in Storm 3. The topic of discussion when it died out was how to make the page. Snapper prefers a game-centric page, and not listing some of the stuff we do in articles, like classification (kenjutsu, taijutsu, ninjutsu), range, and class (offensive, defensive, supplementary) because due to gameplay reasons, most are offensive and short-range. I'd rather keep those, and make them character-centric, to cut down on duplicate content between pages. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:46, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
"new" Sage Tailed Beast Mode
elitist behavior and abuse of sysop status
No offense, but this is getting out of control. You are too hasty with your edits and you ignore anyone but Seel and Ulti. I don't think opinion of just 2-3 people is enough to classify Naruto as jinchuuriki of all the Tailed Beasts, sorry for breaking your bubble, but there are other editors, too. And yes, I exist as well--Elveonora (talk) 17:15, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
What I'm saying is that there are like 15 active editors. 3 agree and 1 (me) disagrees for example and you find that enough to make a move? Give some more time for people to respond, Omni hasn't even given his opinion yet for example.--Elveonora (talk) 17:24, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
I'm not into edit wars, so I'll ask this question: Why exactly was my edit of his Rinnegan undone? It fits the article, plus it emphasizes his eye more, just like for his Sharingan, Mangekyo Sharingan, and Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan. WindStar7125 (talk) 19:46, April 16, 2014 (UTC) WindStar7125
He doesn't reply since he doesn't have the balls or the sincerity to justify his bull shit on this site. This place would be a lot better if elitist shit like him either died or got off their high-horse to accept the edits of others (or even consider them for that matter). --ElvinWindSword (talk) 05:28, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
One could argue that you blocking edits and access to infoboxes can be implied as a form of harassment. But my strong tone was only geared to gain your attention and now that I have it I would like to give you some advice. Instead of making this wikia a hiearchy between editors, I would suggest that you have a more democratic process. If the majority of users disagree with your edits, you shouldn't threaten to ban them from editing (like you did with me) you should encourage diversity in opinions. --ElvinWindSword (talk) 01:58, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
Foxy-sama, sorry for that. But did you check the spoilers images for the next chapter? About 12 pages have been released about it. My question is, is it better to create a thread about this chapter? The chapter title is Sasuke's Rinnegan…!! (サスケの輪廻眼…!!, Sasuke no Rinnegan…!!). —Shakhmoot (Talk) 04:15, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
- Here. —Shakhmoot (Talk) 04:21, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure about the kanji and hiragana and everything. From my little experience with Naruto's terms. it's clear to me the name that I gave to you is correct. —Shakhmoot (Talk) 04:50, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
- I tried to get the other techniques that used in this chapter. For example, Madara's first jutsu called (as I think but Seel-senpai could get a better one) Sage Art: Yin Release Thunder Sect (仙法・陰遁雷派, Senpō: Inton Raiha) and his second jutsu is Sage Art: Storm Release Light Fang (仙法・嵐遁光牙, Senpō: Ranton Kōga). —Shakhmoot (Talk) 05:19, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
I'm curious as to why this thread was closed. According to the reason you gave, you say there was "too much nonsensical bickering". All I saw was one post from a troll and nothing indicating that anyone was bickering. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 07:28, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
Re: Naruto 674
Putting here since the topic is for 673, and not for off-topic subjects.
Ten Tailed Fox wrote: "Wishful thinking is the formation of beliefs and making decisions according to what might be pleasing to imagine instead of by appealing to evidence, rationality, or reality. It is a product of resolving conflicts between belief and desire."
So, you see, it may be frustrating, but I am sticking to the definition. I don't have to disagree. Its still wishful thinking.
That doesn't differ from what I said to stop doing. You act like "wishful thinking" is something I don't know the definition of, when it's blatantly obvious and self-explanatory. *shrugs* No idea how you got there, but regardless. And the reason I said it's not wishful thinking is there a great sum of people, even on here, who believe the old man doesn't have sharingan, despite having rinnegan. Following that logic, Naruto doesn't need sharigan. Am I saying I wish for this? No. Am I saying I like this? No. Am I saying anything even remotely related that would vaguely be pleasing? No. I wish Naruto doesn't get it. But Kish could still give it to him, and we'd have to guess as to how. And if that happens, it proves those who say Hagomoro doesn't have sharingan right. I wouldn't like them to be right since it contradicts the knowledge we have.
Now, if you can show me where someone have a great deal of wishful thinking for NAruto to have Rinnegan, other than saying it just in passing or simply thinking he will get it (which differentiates from wishful (wishful being in your dreams)), I'll back down. I'm too lazy to find people saying it, but I haven't seen anyone say it yet either. As I have been saying since my reactivation on the site, I'm not afraid to admit I was wrong.
Not everything someone says is wishful thinking, crazy fandom stuff, etc. Hell, even the Tobi=Obito people were right, and at the time it was not even conceivable to even entertain the idea. I wish a bit of arrogance and condescension would be lost. It doesn't help anyone, and it doesn't serve a purpose even if right. And being right doesn't make you better than anyone. We even talk about being peaceful and respectful on the wiki, but we seem to all (myself included) get easily irritated and behave improperly. There are more civilized ways around it. Instead of saying wishful thinking, say: there is currently no substantial (or any, at all) evidence to support such a claim; Or: it can easily be refuted by [...]. And it especially seems to be the sysops lately more than any other person, even if the sysops themselves disagree they'll say the other is wishful thinking, essentially an idiot, "carry on", etc. It has to stop. Not to mention being a sysop doesn't give you intricate and personal access to all the details regarding Naruto.
Thank you for having a conversation with me. I actually do like you, which is why it is a pet peeve of mine and gets me angry when someone, anyone, tries to act like they're better, or someone is an idiot, or "wishful thinking". And I do it, too. I am not infallible. I do it a whole hell of a lot, and I'm working on being better.
And no, sweety, you are wrong on that: "Same can be said of the discussion about the Lava Rasenshuriken. All the facts in the series would tell it has Wind Release in it." I've been the loudest, probably rudest, as well, proponent of fuuton being in Youton Rasenshuriken. Go back and read my posts in it ;). But as I said, thank you for having a conversation with me. It does clear it up, and in the future I know what to look for to understand how you mean things. Though that being said, TU3 on the other hand, even if he said the same as you... He's a bit too uptight to rationalize his behaviour. But everyone could stand to bring themselves down a notch, I suppose.
As for the sysop thing, it was more of being a role model of how to act with other members and never a thing about abusing powers. I never thought any of you abuse powers, but at the same time never treat everyone with a certain level of respect becoming of someone who is supposed to be a "leader". I think you're great sysops, but like how I am, I think we have issues interacting with others. And most people here want fanon out, but people can have differing opinions and theories have it be non-fanon. And strictly speaking, every theory that isn't blatantly stated is fanon. But my issues only stem from the interactions between people with conflicting theories and how obstinate people will be in not even trying to be objective to try and have the most accurate and detailed information, instead reverting to the basic human behaviour of "No, I'm right, you're wrong." We need to learn to be more objective and at least try and see if the other side is right. A good way is to find points of refutation for both sides. "Well this side says this, and this is why it's wrong." It's done in official debates all the time because it's the best way. And sometimes you have to debate for a side you're privately against, finding points as to why it's right, using points to showcase why your private side is wrong. And a lot of the time someone may change their mind because the logic works. And sometimes the logic doesn't work.
The entire reason I even messaged you was because I think, out of all people, and while you're still human, sysops should promote certain behaviours while showing how someone is supposed to act. If someone sees you all behaving rudely, they'll think it's okay to treat someone else like crap. And that's not good for the wiki in any context. --Taynio (talk) 19:04, April 22, 2014 (UTC)