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Taynio

aka Christie Oholivama

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Yeah I think that's the case. I also found another thing, the minimum number for a graduating class is 36 according to one of the fanbooks or the mini databook(I dont remember which) and the ninja registration numbers are given upon graduation to genin. So going by that and the fact that Asuma and Gai were wearing chunin flak jackets in chapter 599 when Obito was 13, it means Kakashi was 11 when he became a Jonin, which also means Obito was 16 and 8 months when he attacked Konoha with Kyuubi as Kakashi would of been 14 and 25 days at that time too every day things keep fitting into this the more i search [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 01:17, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
Yeah I think that's the case. I also found another thing, the minimum number for a graduating class is 36 according to one of the fanbooks or the mini databook(I dont remember which) and the ninja registration numbers are given upon graduation to genin. So going by that and the fact that Asuma and Gai were wearing chunin flak jackets in chapter 599 when Obito was 13, it means Kakashi was 11 when he became a Jonin, which also means Obito was 16 and 8 months when he attacked Konoha with Kyuubi as Kakashi would of been 14 and 25 days at that time too every day things keep fitting into this the more i search [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 01:17, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
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== so you agree with me ==
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That Son Goku supplied the Yoton chakra. Why didn't you say a thing on the relevant talkpage?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:24, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
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So Orochimaru is a tailed beast? He can do the same. The real Tailed Beasts are still inside of Gedo Mazo which is inside of Madara. They only "project" their consciousness to the chakra pieces I believe.
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I think people take the chakra monsters/entities too literary. In my honest opinion they are no different "existence-wise" than say a human. They are blood, flesh and bone like anyone.
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For the Yoton topic, I'd appreciate that people who agree with me and disagree with the decision '''should''' voice their opinion and not be afraid, because because of that, people like Foxie abuse their sysop rights with: "I don't see, I don't hear, only what I think matters and since I agree with myself, it's ultimate"
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Don't tell me people are afraid to disagree with the sysops, that would be just sad.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:12, April 15, 2014 (UTC)
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I don't entirely agree. The reason why they aren't needed in their entirety is because they possess each a portion of the Gedo Mazo's chakra. By reclaiming said chakra, it gets restored to its original state, the "Ten-Tails"/Shinju, it doesn't need the rest of them, because the rest wasn't a part of what was originally taken from it by the Sage, but rather what he gave to the part/s with his YYR.
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And again, Orochimaru is exactly the same and he isn't a Tailed Beast. You guys say that Itachi sealed him (which I disagree with, but that's another topic) and yet there he is walking around. By your own understanding then, there are two Orochimarus and that must mean that there's no such thing as the real Orochimaru? lol.
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Also how are you so sure that lets say Iruka being sealed inside of Naruto wouldn't appear just like the Tailed Beasts, chakra in some cage/mental plane? He wouldn't obviously be crawling through his guts.
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Also I'm not sure if Yin Kurama and Yang Kurama are a precedent to be taken as a proof to the notion of them being just chakra, since it's an unique case. I would rather attribute the split to the mysterious workings of Shiki Fujin.
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Kurama is a proof that the Tailed Beasts have souls, otherwise there wouldn't have been anything for the Shinigami to take. That means there is such a thing as "the real them"--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:57, April 15, 2014 (UTC)
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== Re: Wishful Thinking ==
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So it is wrong of my to assume people are participating in "wishful thinking" when they say Naruto will obtain a Rinnegan (barring a Sharingan transplant), even though all the facts we know in the series point to that exact conclusion? I believe that is the very definition. Also, the only reason I gave a definition is because you implied that ''I'' was implying (that's a mouthful) they were "wishing" (your words) this stuff upon the series. That is not wishful thinking. Wishful thinking, as I already explained, is ignoring pre-established facts to come to conclusions that would be more mentally pleasing. Same can be said of the discussion about the Lava Rasenshuriken. All the facts in the series would tell it has Wind Release in it. I know you disagree with this, but you have no facts from the series to support yourself with, because Rasenshuriken has only ever been made with wind prior to the last chapter. The fact that Naruto didn't make a "Magnet Release Rasenshuriken" further supports this. So I label it "wishful thinking". Its pleasing to think about a shuriken made entirely out of lava chakra, but the facts simply don't support it.
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Don't take it as me being rude. Its a curse, but I'm incredibly blunt, and sometimes unintentionally sarcastic. The sarcasm carries into my real-life personality. I'm a very sarcastic person, it just happens. Blunt + sarcasm doesn't go over well with people over the internet, because they seem to take it as anger, when, in reality, I'm not angry at all in 99.9% of the discussions that take place around here.
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<nowiki>*</nowiki>shrug* Live and let live, I suppose. But I hope that clears it up... somewhat. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 16:27, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
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: Also, small side note, but me being a sysop has nothing to do with anything at all. Like, nothing. If you're referring to what Elve was saying earlier, he says that to any sysop that gets particularly feisty with him. My sysop "powers" (very lose term, but whatever) allow me to edit protected articles, protect articles, delete what needs deleting, and ban trolls that mess up our stuff. That "power" (again, not really power, but whatevs) has nothing to do with my normal behavior on the site. I was like this before I became a sysop. Again. Blunt person. I've only exercised my being a sysop ''once'' in my tenure here, to end an argument that broke out on a talk page that shouldn't have been there.
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: It really is a pet peeve of mine when people see "Sysop" on my page, or the pages of TheUltimate and the other sysops, and immediately cry "power abuse!" when they either don't get their way, or they get disagreed with. As I have said many times in the past, sysops are just ordinary users with a few extra buttons to help around the site. Don't go equating this to some sort of power structure. This isn't politics. I don't have the time or the energy for that crap. I'm just here to edit and make sure fanfiction doesn't make it into the articles. So. Yeah. /rant ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 16:36, April 21, 2014 (UTC)

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Don't use such terms when referring to me no matter what, thank you.--Elveonora (talk) 15:59, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, thought you used it the "sweety" in a degrading manner. Kinda like people talk to their pets despite knowing they mostly do not understand and can't respond by speech, yet they do so in their stead, in fact conversing with themselves. Some people use such terms thinking it makes the opinion of one they argue with less valid and gives them upper hand, kinda like "yeah, whatever you say, you are wrong" attitude.--Elveonora (talk) 16:24, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

I know that. Also just informing you it matters not if you are female, male or whatever, we are equal on the internet and both of us are editors and common visitors here. I know your intention informing me is good, you thought I might not know I was talking to one person, but well, I did, so thank you for informing me anyway--Elveonora (talk) 16:51, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Deleting posts Edit

I didn't mean to imply you meant to do that. :) Skitts (talk) 23:53, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Sakura summon Edit

You have a fair point, it's unknown if Sakura summoned Katsuyu, but she did summon a slug. So I think we should add to her abilities the ability to summon a slug. TheOtherSides (talk) 10:25, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

More interesting things Edit

Yeah I think that's the case. I also found another thing, the minimum number for a graduating class is 36 according to one of the fanbooks or the mini databook(I dont remember which) and the ninja registration numbers are given upon graduation to genin. So going by that and the fact that Asuma and Gai were wearing chunin flak jackets in chapter 599 when Obito was 13, it means Kakashi was 11 when he became a Jonin, which also means Obito was 16 and 8 months when he attacked Konoha with Kyuubi as Kakashi would of been 14 and 25 days at that time too every day things keep fitting into this the more i search ItachiWasAHero (talk) 01:17, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

so you agree with me Edit

That Son Goku supplied the Yoton chakra. Why didn't you say a thing on the relevant talkpage?--Elveonora (talk) 23:24, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

So Orochimaru is a tailed beast? He can do the same. The real Tailed Beasts are still inside of Gedo Mazo which is inside of Madara. They only "project" their consciousness to the chakra pieces I believe. I think people take the chakra monsters/entities too literary. In my honest opinion they are no different "existence-wise" than say a human. They are blood, flesh and bone like anyone. For the Yoton topic, I'd appreciate that people who agree with me and disagree with the decision should voice their opinion and not be afraid, because because of that, people like Foxie abuse their sysop rights with: "I don't see, I don't hear, only what I think matters and since I agree with myself, it's ultimate" Don't tell me people are afraid to disagree with the sysops, that would be just sad.--Elveonora (talk) 14:12, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

I don't entirely agree. The reason why they aren't needed in their entirety is because they possess each a portion of the Gedo Mazo's chakra. By reclaiming said chakra, it gets restored to its original state, the "Ten-Tails"/Shinju, it doesn't need the rest of them, because the rest wasn't a part of what was originally taken from it by the Sage, but rather what he gave to the part/s with his YYR.

And again, Orochimaru is exactly the same and he isn't a Tailed Beast. You guys say that Itachi sealed him (which I disagree with, but that's another topic) and yet there he is walking around. By your own understanding then, there are two Orochimarus and that must mean that there's no such thing as the real Orochimaru? lol. Also how are you so sure that lets say Iruka being sealed inside of Naruto wouldn't appear just like the Tailed Beasts, chakra in some cage/mental plane? He wouldn't obviously be crawling through his guts.

Also I'm not sure if Yin Kurama and Yang Kurama are a precedent to be taken as a proof to the notion of them being just chakra, since it's an unique case. I would rather attribute the split to the mysterious workings of Shiki Fujin.

Kurama is a proof that the Tailed Beasts have souls, otherwise there wouldn't have been anything for the Shinigami to take. That means there is such a thing as "the real them"--Elveonora (talk) 14:57, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Wishful Thinking Edit

So it is wrong of my to assume people are participating in "wishful thinking" when they say Naruto will obtain a Rinnegan (barring a Sharingan transplant), even though all the facts we know in the series point to that exact conclusion? I believe that is the very definition. Also, the only reason I gave a definition is because you implied that I was implying (that's a mouthful) they were "wishing" (your words) this stuff upon the series. That is not wishful thinking. Wishful thinking, as I already explained, is ignoring pre-established facts to come to conclusions that would be more mentally pleasing. Same can be said of the discussion about the Lava Rasenshuriken. All the facts in the series would tell it has Wind Release in it. I know you disagree with this, but you have no facts from the series to support yourself with, because Rasenshuriken has only ever been made with wind prior to the last chapter. The fact that Naruto didn't make a "Magnet Release Rasenshuriken" further supports this. So I label it "wishful thinking". Its pleasing to think about a shuriken made entirely out of lava chakra, but the facts simply don't support it.

Don't take it as me being rude. Its a curse, but I'm incredibly blunt, and sometimes unintentionally sarcastic. The sarcasm carries into my real-life personality. I'm a very sarcastic person, it just happens. Blunt + sarcasm doesn't go over well with people over the internet, because they seem to take it as anger, when, in reality, I'm not angry at all in 99.9% of the discussions that take place around here.

*shrug* Live and let live, I suppose. But I hope that clears it up... somewhat. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
Yamagakure Symbol
16:27, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
Also, small side note, but me being a sysop has nothing to do with anything at all. Like, nothing. If you're referring to what Elve was saying earlier, he says that to any sysop that gets particularly feisty with him. My sysop "powers" (very lose term, but whatever) allow me to edit protected articles, protect articles, delete what needs deleting, and ban trolls that mess up our stuff. That "power" (again, not really power, but whatevs) has nothing to do with my normal behavior on the site. I was like this before I became a sysop. Again. Blunt person. I've only exercised my being a sysop once in my tenure here, to end an argument that broke out on a talk page that shouldn't have been there.
It really is a pet peeve of mine when people see "Sysop" on my page, or the pages of TheUltimate and the other sysops, and immediately cry "power abuse!" when they either don't get their way, or they get disagreed with. As I have said many times in the past, sysops are just ordinary users with a few extra buttons to help around the site. Don't go equating this to some sort of power structure. This isn't politics. I don't have the time or the energy for that crap. I'm just here to edit and make sure fanfiction doesn't make it into the articles. So. Yeah. /rant ~ Ten Tailed Fox
Yamagakure Symbol
16:36, April 21, 2014 (UTC)

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