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*cough* Simant, could you break down what this is all about. I can barely understand bad programming, but I have a strong feeling you are doing something horribly horribly wrong. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 17, 2009 @ 20:00 (UTC)

A self closed <nowiki/> tag can be used as a whitespace barrier. If you place it in between the content and the start or end of a parserfunction parameter it can act as a barrier that will prevent the whitespace in between itself and the content. In essence {{#if:{{{foo|}}}|<nowiki/> only}} will retain the space before "only". Also, it is unnecessary to place a #switch block inside of a #ifeq, what you did could have been handled using the #switch itself. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 17, 2009 @ 20:25 (UTC)
We could switch over to a set of from-to fields in the form instead of a list of chapter numbers if you're sure we don't have anything that skips chapters or includes older chapters or whatever. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 20, 2009 @ 21:26 (UTC)
I'm working right now, can't do something like that right now. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 20, 2009 @ 21:32 (UTC)

Ask templates are screwy, you can't pass manual parameters to it, the template only gets the values of properties you ask for using the ? in the later part of the #ask. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 23, 2009 @ 00:28 (UTC)

Just to point out

Lover is a valid family tree value in this series, as Minato and Kushina weren't married (based off their last names) and yet we have Naruto. Just pointing that out when you are finalizing values.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 20:59, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Family Tree

I dunno. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 26, 2009 @ 23:11 (UTC)

Perhaps the |sort= property in #ask that can sort by a property in the query. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 01:33 (UTC)
^_^ You might want to actually look at the source code for that extension. It's a old (MW 1.7 old, right after they dropped PHP4 ugh) ugly extension that uses a tag (tags are bad for template coding), and produces lists, NOT simply resorting of a list in a flexible way. See if you can do a proper |sort=. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 02:02 (UTC)
As far as I can comprehend with a beating head, "erm, sure". ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 02:10 (UTC)
What are you even trying to sort that can't be done with the |sort= parameter? ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 21:05 (UTC)
If you have multiple separate queries I have no problem with separate subsections. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 21:19 (UTC)
@_@, I dunno, maybe I'll deal with this later when I'm not ill. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 30, 2009 @ 00:01 (UTC)

Re: Twin Rasengan

The translation I gave was hypothetical, based on my knowledge of Japanese and Kishimoto-sensei's naming conventions. The translation given on the Twin Rasengan page is... awkward at best. I don't know how the person who put it in got that name, it seems to be from one of the films or games, none of which I've seen or played, respectively.

In my opinion, the Twin Rasengan page should be merged with the Rasenrengan page, I see hardly any difference. I also think the Japanese given on the Twin Rasengan page is fancruft, made up by someone with just enough knowledge of Japanese to use an on-line dictionary.

Then again, since I don't know the films, nor the games, I cannot really say anything conclusive. I've heard weirder names from those. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 22:53, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Image rationale

If the pic has a rationale, it is most likely that the up loader just made a mistake, so I suggest that you fix the mistakes so the pic gets the right info. If you can't fix it for some reason, like if the manga/anime isn't available at the moment, you could put a {{delete|reason: wrong info in rationale or something similar at the top, and just wait for an other user to fix it. Jacce | Talk 15:33, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Re: File name move

Done ^^ --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 22:58, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Ask queries

I don't believe ! was disabled, no reason for that I know of. ~ is probably not enabled anyways. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 5, 2009 @ 22:22 (UTC)

Re: Help

I'm really not the right person to ask for help with these kinds of things. If I can't copy something that I know works or figure it out through trial and error, then it's beyond me. That said, I've been fiddling. Compare the following:

+Manga, +Anime

+Manga, -Anime

-Manga, +Anime

-Manga, -Anime

If semantics worked the way we think it should, Adamantine Prison Wall would only be present in the first query. Instead, it is listed in all four. Based on these results, using ! will only exclude things with one value. Since Protection of the Eight Trigrams is tagged as Anime and Game, you want a query that excludes two values (something like [[Jutsu media::!Anime||Game]]). I couldn't find anything that does that at Help:Semantic search, so the only solution I can offer is to remove the Game tag. ~SnapperTo 04:17, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

! works, just not when there are two values for one parameter. It gets confused if there's more than one. ~SnapperTo 00:12, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Images

Personally, they are pure *$&@ in my honest opinion. I would have removed them myself if I wasn't already in the position I am in (bad cop of the Wiki). Personally if you want to remove them and site that they are terrible I won't stop you.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 22:08, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Dude, don't worry. Soon I will download all Shippuuden episodes and will review the characters, jutsus, location and etc. His pictures will be replaced no matter what. :) And soon they will be deleted. I just don't have big hard disk and may be I should delete Naruto episodes first.--Donatelo (talk) 20:53, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
I never thought about CD's, but 36,2GB - this is 10 DVD(4GB). LOL--Donatelo (talk) 21:10, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Rationales

I guess not including the episode number doesn't make it invalid, but it doesn't make it a good rationale. Those should really be fixed to have proper information of where the image came from. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 19, 2009 @ 23:09 (UTC)

Chime in here

Here. I like you enough to handle this. (I am extremely biased as I hate Newthx2u with a passion only matched by my hatred for CoolTamerBoy.)--TheUltimate3 (talk) 01:28, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

OVA Debuts

Hmm, I dunno. In a way OVA only characters don't even have a debut, they're just part of an OVA. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 24, 2009 @ 17:57 (UTC)

Re: Clans

All information I can find is focussed on the four noble clans of Konoha: the Uchiha, the Hyūga, the Akimichi, and the Aburame. I couldn't find any general information about shinobi clans and families. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 19:55, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Bots

My apologies for that. I can't actually see well what the bot changes, so things like that can slip through. I still have to find out how to work the bot properly ^^

I'll undo any bad edits I did with the bot. Good luck testing the infobox. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 19:06, December 1, 2009 (UTC)


Orochimaru used the Fireball Jutsu in episode 29 Thunderbender18 (talk) 06:07, December 5, 2009 (UTC)


why the infromation about being the current longest jutsu name(Hokage 60 year old technique...)was deleted.Is there some kind of policy? Just wondering... Ttogafer (talk) 20:12, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

I totally forgot about Japanese. Thanks for the explanation.Ttogafer (talk) 20:27, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Anbu Mask

One instance isn't enough to claim it is usually the case. It could have been part of Kabuto's disguise.

The mask also didn't have any hair attached to it in the manga, nor did any of the other ANBU masks I could find. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 02:49, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Re: First Hokage Necklace

I have a feeling you might be watching a badly translated version of episode 91, actually...

From chapter 159: "That there~ It's a mineral of which there aren't two in the world, once owned by the First Hokage." (「ありゃ この世に二つとない鉱石で初代火影が持ってたもんだ」, "Arya Kono yo ni futatsu to nai kōseki de Shodai Hokage ga motteta mon da")

It's easy to mistranslates this as there being two in the world, but at least in the manga it says there is only one. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 22:59, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Episode Infobox

You sure about that formula? ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 8, 2009 @ 17:50 (UTC)

Chapter 478

Where may I read chapter 478? User:Master Shannara December 9, 2009

Thank you

Thank you very much for telling me! i really appreciate you telling me :D —This unsigned comment was made by Torune (talkcontribs) .


 it is “believed“ that Shikuro Aburame is  Torune’s father. Shouldn’t this be a spoiler? Ttogafer (talk) 18:37, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Should I delete the wrong files or it should be waited till friday? Ttogafer (talk) 21:08, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking the next Friday for me 18 december. Ttogafer (talk) 21:12, December 11, 2009 (UTC)


Why are you nomimating it for deletion? I worked really hard on it and it was mentioned to be the style the Raikage uses from the latest fanbook! User:SuperSaiyaMan

RE: Thanks

Thanks for telling me Simant-Sama. But do i have to wait to edit Torune then because there were a revert war?--Torune (talk) 21:03, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Auto-confirmation

Well then that´s a problem. Do you know anyone that know when i become an auto-confirmed member?--Torune (talk) 21:16, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

Thank you so freaking much for helping me with this matter i really appreciate it :D


Why would there be a Hand Seal stat? That falls under ninjutsu, since seals are required to trigger it. Fuinjutsu is most likely what the Seal Stat is referring to. —This unsigned comment was made by SuperSaiyaMan (talkcontribs) .

Re: Itachi Uchiha New Image

Itachi's hair is a bit odd, but not necessarily wrong...

I was talking about those images lacking the single most defining feature of Itachi's face. The one feature that makes Itachi Itachi: the lines down his cheeks. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 20:06, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

See, that's the problem. A lot, if not most, characters have tiny lines between their eyes and their nose. Those lines indicate the actual crevices humans have there. In Itachi's case, those lines extend all the way down to about the same height as his mouth. Those lines are as characteristic of Itachi as those whiskers are to Naruto. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 20:18, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
You think? Maybe it seems that way in the anime, but not so much in the manga.
Compare the scene where he is first truly revealed at age 18 [1], the scene with him just after the massacre at age 13 [2], the scene with him just before he died at age 21 [3] and the scene with him, while still in the Academy at about age 7 [4]. you can see the stripes are about the same length throughout his life and throughout the manga. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 20:32, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

What the bunny? D:

I didn't touch that template article, I was using the template on someone's talk page. This be whacked up plz D: ~Hakinu (talk | contribs) 19:38, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

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