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Seelentau

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  • I live in Germany
  • My occupation is Translator
  • I am Male
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== Chapter 621 translation ==
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== Re: colored manga ==
   
Hi Seelentau, I want to ask about the third missing kanji of Hashirama's Hotei no Jutsu, have you found it? And about Hōbi no Jutsu, is it better to move the page to its literal name? or that's better? —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 21:31, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
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ah right thnk u for telling me. the only other website i know to buy the colored edition volumes is plus.shonenjump.com but sadly for some reason the website does not accept my credit card payment. I really would love to obtain the colored images like the way you do and if there is any other way u could help me tht would be excellent. Srry if im annoying ya wth this.--[[User:Deeinfernodestroyer|Deeinfernodestroyer]] ([[User talk:Deeinfernodestroyer|talk]]) 09:18, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
:Omni-san just added a third kanji for "Hotei", but I don't know if it's right or not. I checked a bad quality scanned panel for this jutsu. So it was unclear for me. And about the naming, let's wait for Viz translation of these technqiues to see what are the appropriate translations for that. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 22:07, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: Unconfirmed Kanji ==
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== Translation request ==
   
Sorry, but I added the kanji form the chapter scripts on [http://naruto-spoiler.seesaa.net/article/332165522.html this webpage]. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 16:53, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
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Senpai, what's the literal meaning/rōmaji/furigana of 落風伝? Thank you ^_^ —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 16:09, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
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:I agree with you that the first kanji isn't that clear from that image, but it's the closet one to it according to 2ch anime threads. So what's the meaning of refūden anyway? —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 16:28, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
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:I'm using Denshi Jisho(MILES better than Google) and it gives me these results for 落風伝:
   
== Veil of Cat Fire ==
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落, kun:ochi, ochiru, otosu and on: raku. Meaning: come down; drop; fall.
   
From [http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/naruto_storm3/images/system/03/06utakata/02.jpg here], I think I found the missing kanji from {{translation|?炎猫火||Ten'en Byōka}}: . Is that the one? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:30, February 28, 2013 (UTC)
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風, kun: kaze and on: fuu. Meaning: air; manner; style; wind.
:So, "Wrapping Blaze Cat Fire" or "Wrapping Flame Cat Fire"? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 04:25, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Kanji ==
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伝, kun:tsutau, tsutaeru, tsutawaru, tsudau, tsute, zutai and on: ten, den. Meaning: communicate; follow; go along; legend; report; tradition; transmit; walk along.
Hey Seelentau, ich find's zwar mittlerweile schon komisch sich hier auf deutsch zu unterhalten, aber was soll's! Ich arbeite als admin momentan auf einem anderen wiki aktiv mit und wir stehen gerade vor einem kleinen Problem. Viele Familiennamen werden ja in Japan mit Kanji geschrieben und jedes Kanji kann dabei unterschiedlich ausgelegt werden. Betrifft das auch die Vornamen? Die Namen in Hiragana zu schreiben wäre falsch, nicht wahr?
 
   
Daher frage ich dich, da du anscheinend auf diesem wiki mit am meisten japanisch verstehst (Hut ab dafür). Weißt du irgendeine Seite im internet, mit der man die Namen ermitteln könnte? Oder eine andere Methode? Wenn nicht, isses nicht schlimm, aber es würde auf jedenfall ungemein helfen! ;)
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So it would be more of "Rakufūden"(or alternatively "Rakupūden"), which would mean roughly "Falling Wind Chronicles".
   
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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...Where did you find this anyway?--[[User:JouXIII|JouXIII]] ([[User talk:JouXIII|talk]]) 16:46, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
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:I don't use google to translate stuff^^ • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:48, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
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::Alright then, good to hear.^^--[[User:JouXIII|JouXIII]] ([[User talk:JouXIII|talk]]) 16:53, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Thanks senpai, I think it does make sense anyway. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 20:58, August 8, 2015 (UTC)
   
[[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 11:10, February 28, 2013 (UTC)
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== The Last/Otsutsuki lore ==
:Nun, wie die Kanji aussehen, weiß ich und auch, wie sie auf Romanji (heißt das so?) geschrieben werden. Ich wusste nur nicht, wie und worüber man Kanji erstellen kann. Die Seite, die du mir gegeben hast, sollte mir aber weiterhelfen können. Vielen Dank! ;)[[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 15:06, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Sage Mode Thoughts? ==
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Hello good sir. I would like to know if you perhaps might not own Retsu no Sho and the novel adaptation of the movie, especially the latter. Just wondering if there aren't some details in those that are not well explained in the movie. For example, i remember it was stated in the Tenseigan energy vessel article that it uses natural energy (not sure if it still says so) what's the source for that? Pretty much asking for fine details in Retsu no Sho and the movie's novelization that aren't in the movie itself, thank you.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 18:25, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
   
What's your opinion on the whole Sage Mode issue on its talk page? Do you think there are distinct types of it or something else (like me)? There's no general agreement, so we can't restructure the article until there is one. You know of anything in the manga to (somewhat) clear this up? [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 01:05, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
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Too bad, would like the Otsutsuki Clan article and everything Otsutsuki related to be as correct and complete as humanly possible, since I made that article. But thanks nonetheless.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 18:53, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
   
Thanks for the response, that's basically what I was thinking. Oh, and sorry about that section spam. My phone must've gone derp when I submitted it. :o [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 20:22, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
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== Kanji confirmation ==
   
== Name Mean/Translate? ==
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Can you confirm that Sakura's jutsu in the bottom image [http://www.shonengamez.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/narueirro.jpg here] is 桜花裂衝? The romaji is a bit hard to see. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:20, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
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:Also I reason I asked. All the sources I had for that game jutsu are in Japanese, so I didn't question which kanji it was. Dunno how I got the current romaji, I know there are Japanese gameplay videos on youtube, but I don't recall if she says the name of the ougi. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:38, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hi, comrade Seelentau. This is my first time talk to u, nice to meet u ^_^.
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== Translation Request? ==
I just read in ur profile that u know some Japanese things. Can u (if u want or not busy) transate some names for me? THANKYOU [[User:Small brother|Small brother]] ([[User talk:Small brother|talk]]) 15:37, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
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Hey Seele. If you don't mind spoilers, would it be much trouble for you to translate two new techniques from one of the leaks from Boruto the Movie? The video quality is meh but you can still hear the names. The techniques are: a earth-like quicklime technique used by Kurotsuchi (pretty sure it's not [[Lava Release: Quicklime Congealing Technique|this]]) and a crystal-like technique used by Chōjūrō. Here's the --> [https:http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Seelentau?action=edit&section=50//www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v3JBYpIsNc link]. If you don't like spoilers, it's ok if you don't watch it ;)--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 09:26, August 8, 2015 (UTC)
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:Oh, gotcha. Maybe in the future then :) --[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 11:28, August 8, 2015 (UTC)
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::btw, have you [[Lava Release: Ash Stone Seal Technique|found this]] or have you managed to hear it for yourself? If the latter, then maybe "Ash Pile Seal" would be closer (like [[Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning]]) and the "Lava Release" part wasn't mentioned. Just curious :) ? And thanks again, have you managed to dig up anything regarding Chojuro's technique?--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 19:22, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Oh, thank you. Is it Water Release or anything? also, if the novel is available, is Organic Dinosaur translating it? If so, could I have a link please, just to keep up with the news? :) --[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 19:30, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Oh, ok. :( Well thanks anyways. Are you translating it? (and you have it in secret? >.<) on Narutoforums?--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 19:34, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Where the names come from then? haha. If it's a secret, I understand, I'll trust you, have no reason not to. :)--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 19:36, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::You said "no to all" so I figured it's not on narutoboards.. lol. But thanks a lot, Seele :) --[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]])
   
Yeah. Ok thankyou. Here:
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== Re:Stinky Shinki ==
# Jinpachi Mishima = 三島 仁八
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Tjaaa, das Internet ist ein lustiger Ort für lustige Leute. Bin echt gespannt, was im Endeffekt draus wird. xD [[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 17:56, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
# Heihachi Mishima = 三島 平八
 
# Kazuya Mishima = 三島 一八
 
# Jin Kazama = 風間 仁
 
# Jun Kazama = 風間 準
 
# Asuka Kazama = 風間 飛鳥
 
# Yoshimitsu = 吉光
 
# Kunimitsu = 州光
 
# Ganryu = 巌竜
 
# Kazumi or Kazume Mishima. (Not sure if this name is actually exist). Or, Miharu Hirano = 平野 美晴.
 
So so so sorry if it's long. THANKYOU [[User:Small brother|Small brother]] ([[User talk:Small brother|talk]]) 17:40, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Hi, oh yeah so sorry I forgot, now i added. Can u also only translate this page? [http://www.tekken-official.jp/tag2/chara/unknown.html]. Sorry for disturbing and thank u. THANKYOU [[User:Small brother|Small brother]] ([[User talk:Small brother|talk]]) 18:18, March 3, 2013 (UTC)
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== Article edits ==
   
Hi, comrade. Sorry to disturb, I just want to know if u finished the translate. If u busy then took ur time, only when u r free if u wan. I just come to remind, sorry again for disturbing and thankyou ^_^. THANKYOU [[User:Small brother|Small brother]] ([[User talk:Small brother|talk]]) 16:00, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
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I think it would be better to restrict discussions involving edits to certain articles to talkpages these days rather than forum threads, given their tendency [[Thread:180873|to explode]] for no proper reason. :/ What do you think? {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 19:27, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
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:My point exactly. Not necessarily the forums. Instead, you have a thread like the one I just linked asking when some articles should be updated (rather than just asking on the talkpage), and then it devolves to either people thinking the wiki is already 100% accurate (which is just wrong) or, someone coming in and saying "Don't add unconfirmed info to articles or it'll be reverted" then the users are like "Ah! He's threatening us!" or so. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 19:46, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hi, long time no talking comrade. Comrade, why don't u reply? I'm not angry of course, I just wanna know if u finished it, if I disturb u now then I'm sorry. THANKYOU [[User:Small brother|Small brother]] ([[User talk:Small brother|talk]]) 21:02, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
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== Japanese name of Heaven Spear Kick? ==
   
Hi again comrade, ok understood, no need to apologize really, u were busy, and thank you very much for the translations ^_^. Could translate the page (link above)? No need for the name only the description, of course of u r free, sorry for disturbing and thank you ^_^. THANKYOU [[User:Small brother|Small brother]] ([[User talk:Small brother|talk]]) 06:24, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
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Sorry to bother you with this, but I want to get this out of my mind. I presume you have tried it in the past already, but Heaven Spear Kick not having Japanese name is really bothering me... I mean, does it have one? I've tried to search it, but I've limited options... Do you know someone to ask? And if you do, could you ask is it 天槍蹴, Tensōshū(literally Heaven Spear Kick)? Again, Sorry to bother you with this...--[[User:JouXIII|JouXIII]] ([[User talk:JouXIII|talk]]) 22:55, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
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:Alright, thanks.--[[User:JouXIII|JouXIII]] ([[User talk:JouXIII|talk]]) 22:59, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Question ==
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Should I talk about Katasuke in the part of Boruto personality with the cheating bits since he is the one who tricks him in the beginning to use it the device? Or should we just wait for the full movie and edit it later? [[User:GodlyHades|GodlyHades]] ([[User talk:GodlyHades|talk]]) 02:34, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hi Seelentau, can you translate the title of the upcoming opening song of Naruto Shippūden (ニワカ雨ニモ負ケズ) .. Thanks —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 20:40, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
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==Timeline Page==
:Isn't ''Niwaka Ame ni mo Makezu''? Because we need to edit the music article to create this song article. Anyway, here is the [http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/naruto/news/news07/index.html#143633 source for the song title]. [[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 20:51, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
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Could you give me a link to your Timeline page. Thanks. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 14:51, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
::That's good, thanks so much ^_^ [[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 21:50, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
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:oh lol. I must have missed that. thanks again. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 14:57, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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== Timeline ==
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Hello Seelentau,
   
== Possible rename ==
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i wonder bit about your timeline. How did you know when exactly was born Izuna?
   
Could you check the audio at [[Talk:Splitting Technique#Rename to Fission Technique.]]? As far as dialogue goes, we might have a name for the technique, similar to Mirage Genjutsu. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:15, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
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--[[User:Makimaki11|Makimaki11]] ([[User talk:Makimaki11|talk]]) 10:56, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Madara's brothers ==
 
   
What exactly does he say? I still can't get over the fact both scanlations got the number of brothers wrong. Is there any way what Madara said can be interpreted as "we're five brothers" instead of "I have five brothers"? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:49, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
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Hello Seelentau,
   
== Re: Only chapters ==
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i wonder bit about your timeline. How did you know when exactly was born Izuna?
   
That's how it's done since before I came around. I presume it's because if you go to the chapter, there's a number and link to the volume. Volumes also list new characters. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:30, March 10, 2013 (UTC)
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--[[User:Makimaki11|Makimaki11]] ([[User talk:Makimaki11|talk]]) 10:57, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Kamui's dimension ==
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OK now let me explain you my observations and you can see for yourself if that is fitting in.
   
In chapter 597, page 6 if I'm not mistaken. Kakashi says something like "Ore no Kamui no Jikūkan (something else)". The way he says it, can "Kamui no Jikūkan" be considered a name for the dimension Kamui sends stuff to? There's a discussion in the page's talk about a rename. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:25, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
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As we know Hiruzen, Koharu and Homura were coming from Academy very soon and we know that they were having Nidaime for Sensei. Pretty much same as Kakashi was for team 7.
:Bump. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 03:05, March 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Sound Four Technique ==
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But then we go to flashback where escape unit was made off Kagami, Torifu, Danzou, Homura, Koharu, Hiruzen, under the Nidaime.
   
What is the exact translation? We currently have it as "Sound Four: Summoning Technique: Four Corner Beast Formation". Kanji and romaji seem to be correct going by Japanese Wikipedia (though they dropped the group's name from the technique's name). 音隠れ四人衆・口寄せ・四獣包囲の陣, Otogakure Yoninshū: Kuchiyose: Shijū Hōi no Jin. First two parts are easy, "Sound Four: Summoning: Four Beasts ??? Formation", but the other part has more translation options. Also, should the Four Beasts part be translated as that? [http://tangorin.com/general/四獣 It has two possible meanings], and both apply: Four different summons ("beasts"), and the Sound Four's standing in each direction being a reference to 四神. Maybe even 四神獣? And I have no idea what would be the [http://tangorin.com/general/包囲 best translation] for 包囲. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:33, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
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There was notion that bait is gonna die. Which gets confirmed that KIN&GIN bros eventually killed Nidaime. Kin and GIn being 44 when they died, makes me think that they didnt die in natural death. So i believe Nidaime killed them and they killed him, but due to respect they didnt tell us.
:Bump. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:40, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Could you please take a look Mr. Tau? :D ==
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So going to ages..Kagami was 25 years old, torifu 30. So COmpany (Hiruzen, Koharu, Homura, Danzou) was either between 25 and 30 or 30 and bit over. But since Torifu was there with Koharu and Hiruzen (of year 0 and Tobi's attack on Konoha) and roughly same age of 57 it makes me think that he was Same age as Hiruzen.
   
[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:The_Snake_and%E2%80%A6 here please]--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:57, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
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So Going by that, Kagami was 25 at the time and Nidaime died when Hiruzen was thirty (when KInGin bros confirmed that they have killed Nidaime). That is year 27 before Naruto was born. It was as well Hiruzen day when he became Hokage. it was first shinobi world war.
   
== Episode 306 translations ==
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Also Tobirama's rival was IZuna, which practically makes him same age. So it would make Tobirama 61 years old, thus i believe that it is a bit too much. There wasnt 30 year old diff between Tobirama and Hiruzen, that im sure off.
   
Hi Seelentau and how are you? I have two question for this episode, the first is what's the kanji of Eyebright that said here? I couldn't find the suitable kanji for that at all. The second is about [[Might Guy]]'s taijutsu technique that used in this episode, what's it? Thanks —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 16:42, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
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So i believe that Nidaime was around 50 when he died. Madara used Senju cells to prolong his life, thus he looked like very old. The diff between Madara and IZuna, cant be more than 3 year as well.--[[User:Makimaki11|Makimaki11]] ([[User talk:Makimaki11|talk]]) 12:54, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Naruto movie 6 ==
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Well for Kagami and Torifu there is confirmed date at the time when flashback occured. So it is not without basis. And it is also confirmed that Hiruzen became Hokage and 99% that Tobirama died at that day.
can you edit the article since you know Japanese --[[User:Roger (UserJmootams brother)|Roger (UserJmootams brother)]] ([[User talk:Roger (UserJmootams brother)|talk]]) 19:42, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Earth Golem ==
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Anyway nice timeline indeed. YOu did great work though. Based on what is given to us thorugh databook and vauge data from manga, you certainly did your job.
   
Hi Seelentau, I found in the Studio Pierrot blog webpage that the [[Earth Golem]]s' name is revealed to be (土牢剛霊無, ''Dorō Gōremu''). What's the exact meaning of its name? —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 16:49, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks though.
:There's a topic about it in the episode's talk page as well. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:22, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
::While I did not find that talk page, I found the translation for the Kanji: ''Earth Prison Strength Soul Nothingness''. It's a Gairaigo. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:45, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::And about the talk page, check [[Talk:The Vengeful#New information|here]]. Thanks so much ^_^ —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 17:53, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== chapter 626 ==
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--[[User:Makimaki11|Makimaki11]] ([[User talk:Makimaki11|talk]]) 14:04, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
   
Could you please translate the sound effects? People say Madara put Hashi under a genjutsu, do the last panels support that?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:15, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
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== Novel listing ==
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[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Vanishing_Rasengan?diff=1086299&oldid=1086287] <-- Hey Seele. I know that, albeit novel is novel, we should just list "hiden series" stuff in that section, and for various reasons. First of all, it's speculation friendly, for example, Kunoichi, who previously listed characters and techniques that we don't even know if they appeared in the novel version of the movie/episode, using the whole "well it appeared in the episode/movie, so..." notion. Also, it's more lenient and convenient. I dunno, it's listing an adaptation, I just don't think it's worthy.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 09:38, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
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:Also, there's the whole notion if the hiden series were to be animated, we could get rid of the section entirely.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 09:40, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
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::Well the manga is the main source and it has pictures (yes, I said it >.<) But, regarding speculation, we cannot confirm whether it is or not, and that is what's frustrating. It just leaves a lot of articles with missing information or false information, so it's better to just omit everything than to leave ~5% of it here, and the other 95 not.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 09:49, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Well because I had to remove them (well they basically came from Kunoichi) a while ago, and had to ask her to limit novel sections to the hiden novels. But [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Cleaver_Sword?diff=prev&oldid=1086155 like here], without any source it's hard to say whether she's right or not. I trust you regarding such stuff, but not her. >.<--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 09:53, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
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::::[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Infobox:Kirisame?diff=prev&oldid=1045889] <-- Well then could you say the same about the edit right here? It's regarding the "Waterfall Village OVA" novel adaptation. Although, yes, he was one of the major villains, adding it without proof is still wrong. Like I said, this just encourages speculation, with the whole "well, it appeared in the anime/movie, so it had to appear here too" notion. We should just avoid that.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 09:59, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::See, there's no way to confirm these edits, which are most probably true, but we don't know. And that's what leaves 95% of the information missing, leaving the wiki very unclean in that specific sense.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 10:21, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::I'm just saying that anime/movie adaptation novels shouldn't be registered on the entirety due to it being hard to distinguish the information. Unlike with the games, which can be found online and we can actually see, the books leave the reader to interpretate what is happening more often that not, which leads to more speculation.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 10:30, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::::Which will never be fully possible. At least with the games, one can find more than half of the information online. This is not the case with the anime/movie novel adaptations. Honestly, it just leaves the wiki unclean, but if you're so adamant with that, so be it.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 10:36, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::::The notion of being clean and sticking to actual original novels doesn't make sense? k. >.>--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 10:39, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::::::Sure, because "adaptation" = "original" >.> --[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 10:46, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
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Those "original" novels tell basically what happens/happened in the movie, don't see what's so original about that. but, yeah, if you're so adamant, I'll leave it to you to maintain such matters. --[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 10:50, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
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:Well a few sources did say that it was Wind Release after seeing the movie, so I don't believe that this is exclusive, at least not until I see the movie anyways.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 10:55, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
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::[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Rasengan?diff=1087212&oldid=1087199] <-- See, there's no quick way to affirm edits like these, which sounds so realistic, but might not be.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 22:40, August 14, 2015 (UTC)
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::[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Moon_Transportation_Device?diff=1088633&oldid=1072471] [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Puppet-Cursing_Sphere?diff=1088632&oldid=1039893] [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Silver_Wheel_Reincarnation_Explosion?diff=1088631&oldid=1072469] [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Golden_Wheel_Reincarnation_Explosion?diff=1088630&oldid=1072466] [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Localised_Reincarnation_Explosion?diff=1088629&oldid=1064985] [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Projection_Technique?diff=1088628&oldid=1077721] [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Puppet_Reincarnation?diff=1088627&oldid=1072460] [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Puppet_Technique?diff=1088626&oldid=1080540] [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Tenseigan_Chakra_Mode?diff=1088625&oldid=1059840] [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Gentle_Step_Spiralling_Twin_Lion_Fists?diff=1088624&oldid=1079200] <-- See... >.> Can you even confirm any of these... >.> I told you that this would happen.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 09:51, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
   
Thank you, please, once it becomes available, we would like that translated I guess ^_ sound effect signs should not be dismissed :P if not raw then viz would do, but that will take a while.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:34, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
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== Colored Image: Hiden: Hiding in Scale Powder Technique ==
   
Raws are available now. We also need a proper translation on Hashirama's new technique. As far as Tangorin can help me, it's "Summit/Top/Peak Transformed Buddha". [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:02, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
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I already asked [[Talk:Hiden: Hiding in Scale Powder Technique|here]], but i figured asking directly may help results. Do you have an image of Hiding in Scale Powder colored in the manga?--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:42, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
   
Thanks, I meant when Hashi looks up and there appears to be a sound effect, is that rain dropping or something like that?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:00, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: Unused pictures ==
   
Awesome, thank you mister :D--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:13, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
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The wiki is supposed to delete unused images, as per Fair Use (I assume). However, I don't make my way to the Image Mines to see which image is used and what isn't.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:27, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Episode 308 translations ==
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Why Do U Prevent Canon Material In The Wikia? [[User:Bob1200|Bob1200]] ([[User talk:Bob1200|talk]]) 13:44, August 14, 2015 (UTC)
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:I'm not going to discuss this. Take your fanon shit to the fanon wiki. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 13:46, August 14, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hi Seelentau. If you have spare time, could you give the kanji names and literal meaning for these following techniques from the recent episode:
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== Translations ==
#[[Hayate]]'s [[Secret Sword: Earth Shadow]].
 
#[[Iō (medical-nin)|Iō]]'s [[Earth Release: Flying Stones]].
 
#[[Yūgao]]'s [[Moonlit Night]].
 
Thanks so much. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 14:54, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Ah okay, take your time. :) —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 15:03, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== any opinion? ==
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Hey, Seel. I don't we've ever spoken, so sorry if its rude for asking for some of your time. I current need help for a wiki that I frequent. I've seen you on there a couple of months ago, and I know your handiwork. So I'd like to ask for you to proof-read [page][http://http://dragonuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Kik%C5%8Dha]. Because with some research i've come that these could be incorrect. Its more with the variations below. I have some opinion what they could be, but I sadly don't speak japanese. Thanks in advance ^^
   
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Madara_Uchiha#creation_of_all_things if any of course, if so, would like to know what you think--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:49, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
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--{{SUBST:User:New World God/Sig}} 15:33, August 14, 2015 (UTC)
   
More input needed, not just from you, but anyone, I find this unconcluded and confusing http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Chakra#life_force_topic I believe you have some original japanese sources at your disposal, is this anywhere specified?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:08, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
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==colored images==
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was wondering man, do u have any of the entire volumes in color? and care to share?--[[User:RexGodwin|RexGodwin]] ([[User talk:RexGodwin|talk]]) 06:46, August 15, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Episode 309 translations ==
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== Translation Help ==
   
Hi Seelentau, I ask you about the country which appeared in this episode. According to the ending episode, it's called {{translation|此の国|Ko no Kuni}}. But I couldn't find a suitable translation. The subtitles referred for it to "This nation". —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 13:17, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
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Hey there, I need a little help here...
:Okay, but we have to name this country to create its article. Should it better to called it (Land of This)??!! —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 13:35, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== ancient Kirin topic ==
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I already know that theoretically '仏術' can be read as either "butsujutsu" or "hotokesube".
   
Just bored, so wanted to explain it to you. In order to "catch" the natural lightning, Sasuke has to use lightning natured chakra, it wouldn't work with ordinary chakra because there's no way it could reach that high, he just links the natural lightning in the sky with a super-weak chidori in hand like a magnet of sorts, shapes it using shape transformation alone and then brings it down using the link. So all in all, chidori/lightning release is needed to tame it, tho the monster itself isn't created with lightning chakra, that's why it isn't called Lightning Release: Kirin and yet it is one 0_o more examples of the same things are: [[Fire Release: Mist Blaze Dance Technique]] and [[Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning]] mist blaze uses natural fire to ignite fire release chakra natured gas and with Asuma's technique, the gun-powder is also coated in fire release chakra and then ignited by natural means. Again, I was just bored so it's for nothing, sorry for spamming ur talkpage :)--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:23, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
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Now, is it also possible to read it as "bujutsu"? I've made some searches and it seems in some cases you can read '' as "bu"('仏供'as "buku" and '仏子' as "bushi").
   
== UNS3 ultimates ==
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I just want to make sure...--[[User:JouXIII|JouXIII]] ([[User talk:JouXIII|talk]]) 16:33, August 15, 2015 (UTC)
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:...As in "sure, I'll look into it" or "sure, you can read it like that"?--[[User:JouXIII|JouXIII]] ([[User talk:JouXIII|talk]]) 20:27, August 15, 2015 (UTC)
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::Alright, just wanted to be sure. Thank you! ^_^ --[[User:JouXIII|JouXIII]] ([[User talk:JouXIII|talk]]) 21:04, August 15, 2015 (UTC)
   
So, kanji for some of the ultimates from the game started to appear. I would have waited around a bit longer to add and ask for translations, but some other users already started adding them, so I checked to see if they matched the ones where I could find them. The ones with kanji for now are:
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== Okay ==
* [[Cat Fire Bowl]]. The very literal translation made this an easy one, but I'd like to put some trivia around the actual cat brazier in it, but I have no idea if it has a mythological or cultural significance to point out.
 
* [[Five-Mountain Jump]]. There was a wrong kanji in it, but I corrected it, and the translation is the same as far as I know, so no need to change anything I think.
 
* [[Freight Bubbles]]. I added the kanji for that one, because someone else had added the wrong ones, but I don't know if the game name is an accurate translation of the Japanese.
 
* [[Lightning Straight]]. I did my best to add the literal translation of the several kanji in it.
 
* [[Rough Sea Splash]]. I moved it from "Rough Sea Spume" when someone added the kanji.
 
* [[Scale Powder Blasting]]. We've had the kanji for that from day one basically, since they were readable in one of the earliest videos of the game.
 
* [[Scorching River Great Eruption]]. Another one I moved from the game name when someone added the wrong kanji. I put the kanji I found in more than one source.
 
* [[Sickle Mist Technique]]. The "Ninja Art" part was dropped, like in many articles. The only thing I'm not sure if it's "-kiri" or "-giri".
 
* [[Storm Release: Black Hunting]]. I added the kanji, put what I believe to be the proper pronunciation of the kanji in the trivia, and added literal English, which could use a more proper look.
 
* [[Sword of Kagutsuchi]]. Kanji were added when videos with good enough audio became available, they're correct.
 
* [[Tengai Shinsei]]. Actual kanji are finally available, and I think this will end up being left untranslated, kinda in keeping with some other Rinnegan techniques, particularly Deva Path ones, which this also seems to be.
 
* Mifune's ultimate is the only new ultimate we still don't have an article for, because we didn't even have the game name for it. The game name for it is "Resident Decapitation", and the only source I have on the Japanese says his ultimate is called {{translation|居斬|いきる|Ikiru}}. I'm certain that in this technique or in at least one of the above there's a pun or word-play I did not find or recognise.
 
   
I'm still going through sites and lists, and I was able to gather a significant portion of the techniques used in the Ultimate Ninja series, though the thread I made about it in the forums is not up to date with what I have, I'm trying to translate as much as I can before asking for help. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:58, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
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[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/%C5%8Ctsutsuki_Clan?diff=1087666&oldid=1087665 Based on this], wouldn't Hinata being part of Hamura's lineage ([https://www.google.com/search?q=lineage&oq=lineage&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 lineal descent from an ancestor]) contradict the claims of her and other members of the Hyuga clan being descendants of Hagoromo through atavism? Can you break it down for me, please? ^__^ {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 01:41, August 16, 2015 (UTC)
:Like I said, I'm trying to get as many game jutsu kanji done by myself before asking for you to take a look at it, because when I do ask for it, it'll be a lot. I have a 50 page long file where I'm listing everything I can. Most of it is already in a thread I made in the forums, spanning from UN1 through UN5, and UNS, but it's still missing UNI/S2/SG/S3 techniques in the thread. Most of UNS2/G is coming from the site I got UNS3 info, since most characters' movesets didn't change, only bummer is that they all lost a combo in UNS3, so there's usually one technique being left out, but that site still hasn't published all the movesets. I'm also trying to find Ultimate Ninja Heroes 3 stuff, since that in the Japanese games, that is sort of what would UN6 would have been (UN4, 5 and that are from the same series subset), but so far all I managed are youtube videos, which are harder to get kanji out of. Something I discovered since making the topic, is that kamakiri, written with the same kama kanji, but using a different kanji for the kiri part, is the word for a praying mantis. I'm sort of wondering in the pun is deliberate, and an indication that the romaji would actually be kamakiri instead of kamagiri. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:54, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
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:Must of missed that. Thank you :D ~ {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 01:50, August 16, 2015 (UTC)
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::Whoops. Seems like I contributed to it already and ignored it afterwards x) {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 01:55, August 16, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Kotoamatsukami ==
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== RE: Infobox manga debut section ==
   
Hi Seelentau, wondering why you removed my edit on Kotoamatsukami regarding the decade limitation between uses?... Do you not agree with what I wrote? Thanks. --[[User:UchihaFan|UchihaFan]] ([[User talk:UchihaFan|talk]]) 17:44, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
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So the number instead of the name?--''[[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme</span>]]'' 17:42, August 16, 2015 (UTC)
   
I agree with you that what I wrote can't be proven literally from manga facts.
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== Re: Edit Acheive ==
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thought i changed it because of Kaze's edit on Hinata article. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Hinata_Hy%C5%ABga?diff=1087966&oldid=1087954 [[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 18:49, August 16, 2015 (UTC)
   
Consequently, the following statement from Shisui's page "This genjutsu however, could only be used once a decade, unless the user had a way to augment the process such as with Hashirama Senju's cells, thereby drastically reducing the time required from ten years to only a few hours." would also be circumstantial conjecture at best and not pure manga facts.
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== Re:What the hell... ==
   
There are only two references to the use of Kotoamatsukami by Shisui :
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[Shrug] Just me being a perfectionist/neat freak. Don't mind me lol XD [[User:KazeKitsune|KazeKitsune]] ([[User talk:KazeKitsune|talk]]) 19:38, August 16, 2015 (UTC)
   
1- Ao fought Shisui and has full knowledge of the ability of his Mangekyō Sharingan.
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== RE: Section Removal ==
   
2- Shisui tried using Kotoamatsukami to prevent the coup d'etat.
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I Removed It Because I Don't Feel Like Being The Target Of Intolerance Because U Guys Can't Deal With How I Type. Also, What Rules? I've Never Seen Any Place For Rules, lol. [[User:Bob1200|Bob1200]] ([[User talk:Bob1200|talk]]) 12:43, August 17, 2015 (UTC)
   
At the time of his death, Shisui was about the same age as Itachi : around 17 years old... If you assume he did not awake his Mangekyō Sharingan before the age of 7 AND that he can only use Kotoamatsukami twice every decade (once for each eye) then you must conclude that the fight with Ao and the coup d'etat are the only two times Shisui used Kotoamatsukami!
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== RE:RE: Section Removal ==
   
Furthermore, we know the use of Sharigan by non-Uchiha such as Kakashi is very taxing on chakra, thus it is more than reasonable to assume that the use of Mangekyō Sharingan by a crow would be even more so, to the point that it would take a decade for it to "recharge".
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'''You're not the target of anything. It's just that if you write like shit, you're gonna get shit for it. There are basic grammar rules you have to adhere to and if you don't like that, feel free to leave. You can read the rules here.''' Also, read everything linked in the yellow box. Otherwise, there'll be consequences you'll have to face if you continue like that in the future. Seelentau 12:52, August 17, 2015 (UTC)
   
What are your thoughts on this?...By the way, if I'm bothering you with my questions, don't worry about it, just tell me to shut up! ;-) Thanks --[[User:UchihaFan|UchihaFan]] ([[User talk:UchihaFan|talk]]) 18:37, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
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Seems Like Intolerance To Me. Forcing Someone To Do Something In A Specific Way. I Don't Care What Other People Think About How I Type, If They Can't Deal With It Then That's Their Problem For Being Intolerant Douchebags. [[User:Bob1200|Bob1200]] ([[User talk:Bob1200|talk]]) 12:55, August 17, 2015 (UTC)
   
== re:Obito age ==
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:U Do Realize I'm Not A New Member Right? I've Been Editing Stuff Here For Over A Year, lol. [[User:Bob1200|Bob1200]] ([[User talk:Bob1200|talk]]) 13:04, August 17, 2015 (UTC)
   
Thank you for support ^_ dunno why do people have issues with that. Although, I would like you to check Kakashi's and then Rin and Obito's ninja registration numbers. Is it obviously a retcon, since as of the number, Kakashi was originally to graduate before them, not along with them--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:11, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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== Forum ==
   
Yes, I obviously know that since I'm saying the same. But Kakashi's ninja registration number is uneven to those of Obito and Kakashi, suggesting difference of years between his participation in the academy and theirs. At least that's how I understand those numbers, Kakashi's is 009720 while Obito and Rin's are 010886 and 010885, suggesting the other two were in the same bunch of graduates--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:31, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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Btw I Have Yet To See Any Rules About Grammar, lol. [[User:Bob1200|Bob1200]] ([[User talk:Bob1200|talk]]) 13:17, August 17, 2015 (UTC)
   
Do you understand how the Itachiwashero guy counts? I'm not getting his schematics, I don't want to offend and state him to be wrong, even though I'm more or less certain that Obito is around 34 now. Either I'm too dumb or he isn't explaining it properly.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:47, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
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== Hey ==
   
== Master Chen ==
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Just ignore him. He's an attention-seeker, that's why he writes like that. Don't even bother with him, unless he breaks the rules.--[[User talk:JOA20|JOA<sup>20</sup>]]13:27, August 17, 2015 (UTC)
   
From the Old Man and the Dragon's Eye, during the episode, he's also called "Master Chen". What does: {{translation||チェン老師|Chen Rōshi}} translate into exactly? Lord Tangorin gave me some translations, but they don't quite fit Chen. They only fit if I sort of translate them separately, which would result into something like "Old Master". [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:31, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
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==Talk Pages==
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If you could pitch in to these two talk pages that would be great. No one seems to want to. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Kazekage_Clan and http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Fus%C5%8D#Occupation.3F [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 13:28, August 17, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Sakumo killing Sasori's parents matter ==
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== JW ==
   
I know there isn't any specific reference for this, but the war had begun before Nagato turned 10 (since then was after when Jiraiya began teaching him and noted him to have mastered all basic nature transformation and shit at that age) and Nagato's age during his death is around 42, unless I'm mistaken. Sasori's parents died before he turned 5 since that's when grandma with wooden hand started to teach him puppetry, so let's say 4. 35 (his age) - 4 = 31.
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Why Was My Vanishing Rasengan Talk Page Taken Off? People Tell Me To Use Talk Pages And Then When I Do They Get Deleted, Like Dafaq. Did I Put It In The Wrong Place Or Something? [[User:Bob1200|Bob1200]] ([[User talk:Bob1200|talk]]) 15:15, August 17, 2015 (UTC)
42 (Nagato's age) - 31 years of difference = 11 and as you may know, Second World War as still raged when Nagato was 11, so Sakumo indeed killed the parents during that war. I'm bringing this up because you have removed that from articles--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:18, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
If we assume the Ame Orphans were about the same age which is safe to I guess, Yahiko died as about 25 years old, SINCE Chouji described him as a man in between 25-30 years old by his appearance, the former being more likely. He died about 17 years before current events during the very end of 3rd Shinobi World War, well... 25+17=42, that's it. Since I doubt Nagato and Konan were older than that, that's their most probable age. Even if it's off by a little bit up or down, Sakumo still killed Sasori's parents during 2nd Shinobi World War for fuc*ing SURE, since it began some time before Nagato's parents died and lasted up to his maturity. Glad I could help--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:38, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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== RE: JW ==
   
Depends, Sasori was 35 as we know. It's not that much of an assumption, let's say Yahiko was rather 30 than 25. 54 (Jiraiya's age) - 17 = 37, I doubt there was only 7 year difference between Ame Orphans and J-man when he began teaching them, that would have made him 17 when fighting Hanzo so improbable, Sannin were like in their early 20's so Nagato and Konan being 42 is a very close approximate rather than assumption. We don't know exactly when 2nd Shinobi World War started, but it was before Nagato turned 10 and lasted up to their maturity. And since there is 7 years of difference between Sasori and Nagato (circa) and the former's parents died before he turned 5, there was definitely a war when Nagato was 11. I mean, it's not completely baseless, is it?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:27, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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I Did Read The Rules But I Didn't See Anything About Talk Pages Being Removed For Being On Topic. [[User:Bob1200|Bob1200]] ([[User talk:Bob1200|talk]]) 15:50, August 17, 2015 (UTC)
   
His article, something akin to Chiyo teaching him puppetry at 5 to compensate for the loss of his parents--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:34, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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== Ruby ==
   
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I added basic support to {{tlx|translation}}:
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* {{translation|Sharingan|写 輪 眼|lit meaning=Copy Wheel Eye|viz meaning=Mirror Wheel Eye|furigana =うつし わ め}}
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* {{translation|Ghost in the shell|攻殻 機動隊|furigana =こうか きどうたい}}
   
== Archive ==
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Removed parenthesis from infobox--''[[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme</span>]]'' 06:46, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
Hey i would like to ask how can i create an archive?--[[User:ROOT 根|ROOT 根]] ([[User talk:ROOT 根|talk]]) 16:08, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== My apologies ==
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Doesn't matter. Its optional. Add it only where needed.<br/>
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Are there many articles that need ninjutsu? If not just add it like we do with [[Dōjutsu]] on [[Rinnegan]] and others.<br/>
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Changed to that format.--''[[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme</span>]]'' 12:52, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hopefully you don't take a disagreement personally, you can think anything you want about me but you aren't an authority I must agree with, even though I respect you greatly for things you have done for this place and all. I just think in that case, you are seeing more to it than there is. We were told everyone has an affinity and that Uchihas had one for fire, nowhere it suggests the nature itself is hereditary, rather the talent for it is, because if what you are saying was true, then all Uzumakis would share a single chakra nature or any clan with heavy inbreeding for that matter. The reason why Uchihas do is because it's a tradition to use Katon and what's being passed down with the genes is talent, even a person unrelated to Uchiha may have fire affinity.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:50, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
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== Jutsu classification ==
   
Re-reading some stuff more in-depth, you might be right actually. It would appear that some people's chakra "lean" towards a certain nature. The whole Kakuzu hearts thing hints as such--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:30, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
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So, I don't know why exactly you added ninjutsu and dōjutsu to the classification of many kekkei genkai, but it's messing up the category added to the article, and them being detected as kekkei genkai in [[Special:BrowseData]]. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:34, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
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:Well, he'll need to tinker with a few more templates to get it working again. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:31, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hi, I don't know if you get on Fan sites but I currently Run http://naruto-fandom.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_Fandom_Wiki. I am now looking for admins on the wikia, and ways to figure out how to let people create characters using the infoboxes you guys have here. Let me know if you could possibly help please.
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== Novel listings ==
   
[[User:EmperorSigma|EmperorSigma]] ([[User talk:EmperorSigma|talk]]) 16:14, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
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Just to confirm, do novel mentions really count as debuts?--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 18:01, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
   
== feedback ==
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== V-Jump scan of Storm 4 ==
   
Just would like your personal opinion on these:
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Senpai, [http://www.saiyanisland.com/2015/08/naruto-storm-4-boruto-and-sarada-ultimate-jutsu-scan/ a new scan] from the latest V-Jump issue has been released for the upcoming Storm game.. it shows some good information like Sarada can use Fire Release jutsu... Also it's been stated that the [[Vanishing Rasengan]] is named as seen in the image description but the kanji is blurry and not clear... can you clarify it? Thanks —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 12:21, August 21, 2015 (UTC)
* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Ten-Tails#species/classification%20again%20... the topic is dead, so just to talkpage please
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:Okay what about ???の"螺旋丸"?! Is it a description of his Rasengan or what?? —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 12:50, August 21, 2015 (UTC)
* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Earth_Release:_Earth_Shore_Return#Shinobi%20Alliance something has to be done
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::In the same scan, from [http://www.shonengamez.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Qv2vrlq.jpg here], at least we got the name of their combination ulitmate jutsu, it's called {{Translation|'''New Age: Lightning Swift Rasengan'''|新齢・雷迅螺旋丸|Shinrei: Raijin Rasengan}}, not sure about the "New Age" thing, thoughts? —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 13:45, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Kabuto_Yakushi#the_article_as_is transfusion and transplants do not alter DNA
 
* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Six_Paths_of_Pain#Madara_Says :-/
 
* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Orochimaru#when_head_hit_a_wall a serious one
 
Thank you--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:28, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
So you do in fact agree with some of my sentiments? But this is a wiki, shouldn't be about "who is right" but "what is correct" The only "evidence" they would likely accept is if Kishimoto himself has appeared sitting on their laps, whispering into their ears, while massaging their nipples, this reminds me the whole "is Orochimaru a Sage?" case and many religion-science related topic I have had in the past, I know it's unrelated to this show, but trying to convince fanatics in delusion is pretty much the same.
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== Choku Tomoe ==
Still, I'd like to hear at least your personal opinion on topics 1, 3 and 5.
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Does anything canon like the databook say anything about Indra and his reincarnations having Choku Tomoe?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 00:58, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
The author is limited in how much he can explain things and progress the plot at the same time, the manga chapters are getting shorter and shorter... (no idea why is that, but perhaps it's not selling enough?)
 
Funny, since the topics were brought up because the manga ITSELF says otherwise to what we have listed here.
 
First, it's clear Kishimoto obviously has a pretty clear distinction between DNA and cells. A foreign cell doesn't alter DNA of host cell, at least in most cases not, especially not blood cells, unless it's a parasitic virus. The only thing that blood juice did to Kabuto was the injected cells were trying to defeat Kabuto's immune system, procreate and replace his own cells, but his body WON and reverted the process. Kishimoto EVEN bothered to explain what happened to Kabuto and why he looked like that by drawing Jugo and having him clarify it was a result of Sage Transformation (Jugo's own mutative ability), commenting on Orochimaru's doing, that what he did was absorb the chakra that Kabuto had from Anko and undo his Senninka.
 
So already two-three things are false on Narutopedia:
 
* we state he is a mutant, which is false
 
* that Orochimaru's DNA was responsible for his form, while he purposely took on that form
 
* for this, people get confused ans speculate that he lost these powers, which is false, Orochimaru didn't suck out his blood or anything.
 
   
The one about white-snake guy's sealing is an obvious one, I don't think I have to repeat myself for 50th time. And at last, Jubi's classification as a "tailed beast" is definitely incorrect, I'm 99% sure of that. Not only it's false, but we should update information as more is getting revealed, the latest pieces of information state it's a deity, so we should list it as such. Another thing, [[Demonic Statue of the Outer Path]] and [[Ten-Tails]] should have been merged long ago in my opinion. Sorry if it's too long :-/--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:36, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
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== Just something I thought was interesting.. ==
   
== The big one ==
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If Kishi were to have kept up the Stat charts, they would have had a 6th and 7th tier added in DB4.
   
Well, here it comes. The single, most massive translation check request you'll ever receive. Going through the sources linked and mentioned at forum topic, I have done my best to list pretty much every possible technique in the Ultimate Ninja series. There are still a few to come in, but that depends on the site I get kanji for UNS3 updating. At the moment, all the kanji I can copy and paste from somewhere else is listed and translated. The only specific aid I can still provide, other than answering particulars about some translations here and there, is to link specifically for the UNH3 moveset videos, since that one, I wasn't able to find actual moveset lists that I can copy and paste. Don't hesitate to bug me about it, you'll probably want once you see the size of list, if you haven't already. [[Forum:Video game jutsu overhaul|The list]]. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:31, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/search?q=naruto+settei&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all
   
== Your skills are required ==
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As this site you already know well, gives each member stat points and you can upgrade the stat point to higher tiers.
   
What exactly did Zetsu say about Nagato's relation to the Senju in chapter 606, page 12 should it be? Thank you.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:53, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
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I thought this was very interesting and wonder what it means, and the possible new scores for some people albeit we will never know.. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 01:44, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
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:I have literally no clue what you want from me. :D • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 06:23, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
   
So the word "descent" is really there? I trust you more than some random forum guy, so I take it Uzumaki are indeed descendants of Senju?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:09, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
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Don't want anything from you, just thought you might be interested in this. ._. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 06:26, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
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:Oh, maybe I shouldn't literally write in English what I'd say in German^^ What I meant was that I don't understand what you mean. What does reddit have to do with the databook stats? @.@ • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 06:29, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
   
But doesn't lineage go both ways, meaning Uzumaki could have been first? This is his response to your translation:
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I noticed that the users on Reddit in this post made their own accounts on the official Naruto training website thing and got their own official Ninja Registration I.D.s, they did the trainings on the site and were given their own official stat points and the highest numbers I have seen on the stat points now are 7. I think that means that if Kishi decided to keep the stat system in we would see 5.5's, 6's, 6.5's, and 7's on the new stats. Very interesting, easy to make fanon stats for characters now. I even made my own list using this new knowledge. Separated from base stats I made boosted stats too [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 11:55, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
* There is no word there that says descend 降りる from Senju Lineage, it says of Senju Lineage/Blood Relations (Kettō), you will never find the descend or descendant Kanji on that text. The Viz Translation uses "of"
 
* We have here the Younger Son who clearly isn't known to have had red hair, in fact if we look at the anime depiction, the hair color is black and none of his shown Senju descendants did have red hair.
 
* Then suddenly there's a "descendant" clan (Uzumaki) of the Younger Son whose pure blooded members (Naruto is half) all have red hair? Impossible. Obviously the Uzumakis like ancient clans practice "inbreeding" that they have always had red hair.
 
   
Taking Biology into account, hair is one of the most consistent genes, and having the same color of hair in a clan who inbreeds is true. It doesn't make sense that a "descending" clan could develop such an unorthodox hair color if the original hair color was a different color. The interbreeding clan (Senju) would have to have red hair, or a strong dominant gene for it, but the Senjus don't, and red hair in itself is a recessive gene in humans.
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== device ==
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No need to be so anal ._. Can you please answer that? Does that mean Boruto in the movie canon can actually use Wind, Water and Lightning then?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 12:21, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
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:Thank you for answering. Ten-Ten should have been banned too then, because she didn't have to carry all those thousands kunai and shuriken among other things.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 12:52, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
   
Oh, also unrelated, but latest chapters again likely wrongly supports that Hashirama had lived long enough to see Tsunade develop super strength, so about her late childhood/early adolescence I would say... unless she was born like that. Databooks suggest one thing, manga SEVERAL others. Chapter cover 303 says that by Part II. it's been 50 years since his death, meaning he died when Tsunade was 4 .__.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:56, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Also isn't Hashirama's god gate no jutsu a barrier technique rather than sealing technique?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:10, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
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== Lol. ==
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Clearly you don't know who you're dealing with, judging by what you wrote on my talk. I will forgive your ignorance this time, but threaten to ban me again and you will realize you made a huge mistake. [[User:MDateX|MDateX]] ([[User talk:MDateX|talk]]) 15:21, August 28, 2015 (UTC)
   
You are correct, it's missing in the volume release. This is the only thing I could get http://a.mpcdn.net/manga/p/739/132537/1.jpg ... could be photoshopped or otherwise added by anyone but Kishimoto? take a look before it gets deleted :P--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:55, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
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== Hamura's TSB ==
   
Hmm... it's present on all scanlation covers. Anyway, we can be "sure" Hashirama outlived Tobirama 0_o--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:03, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
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So [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Truth-Seeking_Ball?diff=1093289&oldid=1093273 Hamura's TSB] are indeed in an S-shaped formation? {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 02:26, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
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:I guess... "Sure." :D And well, [http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=%BB%F0%D3%B0%C8%CC%D5%DF&tid=3451578080&pic_id=7abfc9fcc3cec3fd0bb19c3cd588d43f8694271d&pn=1&see_lz=0#!/pid6ee6d01373f082024d0ab67648fbfbedaa641b0f/pn1 they didn't look S-shaped to me]... >_< {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 02:39, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
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::Well, if they're not S-shaped, then why did you put them as [[wikipedia:sigmoidal|sigmoidal]]? >.< {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 02:50, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
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:::=w= Okay~ :P {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 02:55, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
   
Tailed Beasts were created in the Jubi's image and share its chakra, their souls were inserted by Rikudou Sennin. Black Zetsu was created in image of White Zetsu, shares his power and is Madara's will embodied. I strongly believe what Madara did back there was Creation of All Things--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:53, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
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== History ==
   
Yes. It's about concept, both cases were created from something (Tailed Beasts from Jubi's chakra, Black Zetsu from White Zetsu's body) and forms of both are embodiment of will/imagination - Yin and then blown life with - Yang.
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I think some pages could use some history sections, like the five great countries and shinobi maybe? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 03:32, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
Well, White Zetsus are clones of Hashirama or rather even possibly clones of [[Hashirama's Living Clone]] but as you can see, the latter has no soul/consciousness. Zetsus look NOTHING like Hashirama despite having his DNA, meaning their form was Madara's invention "yin" and he made them alive unlike HLC with "yang" Uchiha Madara in the end, indeed is a lesser version of Sage of Six Paths, also stated by Kabuto.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:59, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
No. Also Tailed Beasts weren't created from Jubi, just its chakra. Seemingly even after the process, some had left since Madara sucked it to stay alive. In both cases, something serves as a medium (chakra, body) Rikudou Sennin didn't have to completely (or almost completely) rid the Jubi of its chakra, it was in order to defeat it. Since only a fragment of each of the Tailed Beasts' chakra is/would be enough to revive it, so would have been a fragment enough to create them in the first place. White Zetsus were definitely created with Yin-Yang release too, not only Madara's statement suggests it, but also [[Swirl Zetsu]] serves as enough of a proof to me, his forms represents... lack of imagination :D He might have been the very first before Madara settled on the final "design"--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:46, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
For you it represents a different technique somehow, while to me it seems to be the same thing. The separation part isn't mandatory to the technique. As I said, So6p didn't have to make Jubi an invalid, he could have just used a little bit of its existing chakra rather than permanently removing it from its body and splitting it. But I strongly believe that a medium may be a necessity (not a requirement tho) for Creation of All Things, since there's only as much "imagination" can do. It's easier to do it according to a template/from something than to make nothing turn into existence. Both White and Black Zetsus were created using yin-yang release. Hash's cells as a medium => giving it form and other qualities/attributes with yin => giving it life with yang. For BZ, using already shaped Hash from WZ => turning it into will embodied thus slightly altering its mind and form with yin => giving it life with yang.
 
 
I know where you think is a difference though. Adam being made of soil/dirt while Eva from his rib? Now, what more reasoning do you still have for Madara not being BS user?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:43, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
He did, he didn't take a part of WZ like his rib and made BZ from it, he created BZ only accordingly to WZ to fit him, notice that BZ is different, so there's body forming. He only glued them together, BZ didn't grow from WZ's body--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:10, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
I'm saying he didn't grow from his body, by "gluing" I meant that BZ grew in place where WZ has half his side missing. He isn't his alter-ego since they are both separate individuals, so the comparison doesn't work--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:21, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
You are right. But how does that change being yin-yang release? Even Madara says so. Cool, so WZ's leg was sacrificed to make BZ, they both are still separate entities though. Think of them as of conjoined twins--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:40, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Whatever the case, he used YYR to create WZs, so still not creation of all things?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:07, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
I don't think all YYR techniques work the same, creating stuff and **** therefore it must be the same technique Rikudou Sennin used. Izanagi is Yin-Yang Release too, yet it's not "creation" rather manipulation of tangible and intangible, switching them around. I believe either manga states it's it soon, or next databook will list him, but I think we should list him already now, there's not much harm, is there? EDIT: also I believe GoDai already has an explanation for the whole "shinobi alliance doton users" thingy--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:17, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Fūtō ==
 
 
The kanji are taken from the spoiler script found [http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=47360665&postcount=8 here]. [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 20:15, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Something interesting? ==
 
 
In mangastream's version of 632, they put in these two pages after the colour spread, seems to be a sort of recap about Naruto and Sasuke. In [http://blog.pierrot.jp/archives/5526 this] Pierrot blog post, there seems to be something about Road to Ninja and the Prologue to Road to Ninja episode. Something interesting in either of these? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 05:51, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== should explain the alliance thing? ==
 
 
A nature can be used either as an energy with each having unique properties, or as a material. And according to Godai, using pre-existing source of material (which is more than likely true since it's suggested by usage of techniques) requires less of elemental chakra to manipulate and less skill too.
 
For an example, using nearby water source to form a dragon is less taxing and difficult than what Tobirama did against Hiruzen in manga, creating it from chakra. So same goes for the Earth Wall. Everyone's chakra can be changed into either of the five natures. While it takes years of training to use nature besides one's own affinity, the chakra has since it must have hints of all 5, otherwise it should be possible to change it into anything, not just those main things. The "affinity leaning" must be something contained within cells of an individual which create the chakra rather than the chakra itself, supported by having an organ transplanted giving a nature to the recipient, while getting chakra restored with transfer technique or absorbing it from anyone, DOESN'T grant a new nature. It all supports my understanding ;-) but back to the point.
 
 
So while it may be difficult for someone with Wind affinity to use Fire, Hand Seals should help, since they make control and concentration easier. So in my opinion and I strongly believe it, anyone can create elemental chakra of any x from the 5 natures to a '''lesser''' extent. For example Naruto was told to imagine two forces grinding edges against each other which would thin and sharpen his chakra in order to create stronger and more of wind natured chakra. So perhaps Katon chakra is being created by thinking of sensation of heat? Water by concentrating about wet and imagining waves? Well in short, if the lesser extent is true and with the GoDai stuff, using pre-existing earth from ground made it much easier, while they wouldn't be able to use it like Hiruzen did, spitting it from mouth. As much and you dislike it and don't want to hear it, if true it says than anyone can do (as long as skilled enough) a basic let's say C or D rank Katon, Doton, Suiton, Raiton and Fuuton technique with hand seals and available material medium. Even though Naruto's affinity is Wind, he isn't skilled at Fuuton, since he can just create amount and maintain it long enough to combine it with shape transformation and form a Shuriken. But he is yet to be shown infusing/enhancing already existing air with wind chakra like Temari, and nowhere close to Danzo (which I would say was the most impressive user) blowing sharp air from mouth.
 
So in short, Naruto is the same level Fuuton user as Shikamaru, Chouji and Ino are Doton, a low one. But he had to combine it with Rasengan and it was hard due to "looking left while also looking right" thingy and he has to use wind natured chakra as energy to do this, while the 3 had benefit of using existing material and doing only very basic form of shape transformation. Disagree?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:19, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
That's not really how it works because your saying that by thinking of a certain scene or sensation you can use any element and it shouldn't be hard for naruto to do fire style the thing is that you have to do apply Nature Transformation to change your chakra to a specific type.[[User:Whiteraven1|Whiteraven1]] ([[User talk:Whiteraven1|talk]]) 18:39, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== strength of a hundred seal ==
 
 
What evidence is there to suggest that it's a separate technique from "yin seal" ? Just because the "release" fuinjutsu is called "yin seal: release" doesn't mean the "storage" technique has to be yin seal. Doesn't have to follow Shiki Fuujin pattern.
 
The thing that it increased her strength and stuff is speculation, hell, she hasn't done anything close to Tsunade yet. Also someone should get his/her shit straight already, now one article says one thing, some else another, like [[Cherry Blossom Impact]] states Sakura to be user of [[Yin Seal]]--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:22, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Byakugō is written here with another kanji than in [[Strength of a Hundred Technique]], right? So shouldn't it have another name?--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 16:01, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Yin seal stuff ==
 
 
I'm still catching up a bit. I don't edit for just under two days, discussion on a subjects kicks it into overdrive in more than one talk page, talk about Murphy's Law. Anyway, I have not read everything (and probably won't), but what I currently in-series is that: Strength of a Hundred Seal so far is another name for Yin Seal (I read Shizune's sentence as in "the seal needed for SoaH"), Sakura does have Yin Seal, and based on her thoughts she can/will release it, so she should be listed as having it (think Obito with Human Path claim), but we still don't know which technique she's going to use, just Creation Rebirth, or actually Strength of a Hundred, which would imply in her know CR too, as we currently list SoaH as a derived one from it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:12, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Seal of White Strength ==
 
 
Shouldn't [[White Strength Seal]] be named "Seal of White Strength?" 白豪'''の'''印. After looking up some seal techniques, not every technique has の/''no'' in it's kanji (e.g., [[Five Elements Seal]]), but when it does (e.g., [[Shrine Seal]]), shouldn't we acknowledge that? Like we do for [[Strength of a Hundred Technique]], [[Sword of Totsuka]] and other techniques with の/''no'' in their kanji.
 
 
I know the whole の thing is a little troublesome and sometimes gets in the way of translations, but shouldn't we be consistent with this? General Awesomo 10:55, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
:As far as I know, we've never been consistent with that. Many Jutsu have names like "x no Jutsu" and are translated as "x Technique", that's why I decided to go with that translation. Of course you're free to change it, but I think this whole matter has lived through enough changes in the past week. I don't want to change anything related to it until we've more information on that topic. Oh, and as Omnibender said, they don't have to be translated as "Technique of x", although I handle it like this in the German Narutopedia. As I mentioned somewhere else, I really don't know why Suki-senpai named the Byakugō no Jutsu that way, it should've been either "Hundred Strength Technique" or "Technique of Hundred Strength", since its Japanese name is Byakugō no Jutsu and not Byaku no Gō (no) Jutsu. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:37, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Tail Chasing Fang Rotating Fang ==
 
 
Could you check if the change by anonymous user was correct: is it "ooi gagatenga" or "ooi gatenga"? By the way, could you check if full name of [[Human Beast Combination Transformation: Three-Headed Wolf]] is correct?--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 23:09, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
:OK, thanks.--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 18:52, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Well, thanks for response anyway.--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 18:29, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
:By the way, with "Formation E", how will E be read in Japanese?--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 18:48, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Thanks.--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 19:05, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Episode 316 translation stuff ==
 
 
Hi Seelentau and how are you? Long time no see there ... I have question and request about the latest episode. The question is could you give the moniker name of [[Heiji]] that he said to Kabuto? And my request is if you could check the kanji names and literal meaning of the episode technique like [[Earth Release: Sand Dance]] and [[Winding Smoke Technique]] and [[Daimaru]]'s moniker name. Thanks —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 08:14, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Kidaichū ==
 
 
Any mistakes in how scanlations translated what Shino said about them? I want to make a page for the new bug species. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:52, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== re: age estimates ==
 
 
There's a reference in his article.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:32, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Yes and no? You are correct at that my dear, but Minato wasn't older than mid-twenties during his death since he was Nagato's generation.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:00, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
* Shikamaru, Chouji and Ino are the same age as Naruto, so even if possibly wrong, it's more than slightly reasonable to assume that his father would be about the same age as their parents by now (circa 41, 1 year more or less)
 
* More likely than not, Jiraya began teaching Minato after Nagato, once returning from 2nd Shinobi World War. J-man left Nagato as 10 years old and Minato just graduated form Academy as 10 years old to become J-man's student, so they both were mostly the same age, difference of months. Chouji described Yahiko as someone of age 25-30, the former more likely. 25+17 (he died about 1 year before Naruto's birth) equals 42, Nagato and Konan's ages. 42-16 = 26, Minato's age when he died.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:34, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Forwards ==
 
 
Grammatically, it's not correct from what I know at least. Forward still indicates a definite direction, but I'm guessing you wanted it to convey the verb meaning in terms of movement right? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:50, June 12, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Chapter 634 ==
 
 
Could you write down translations of the new techniques?--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 21:56, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Thanks for cheching them.--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 14:27, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Oro Zetsu stuff ==
 
 
My sincerest apology for the constant interruption and bothering of yours with matters of little life relevant importance, but your expertise is unmatched amongst us, that's why I look up to you with another request you could help with I'm certain; if not for the feedback, we would appreciate if you told us what does the sound effect after Orochimaru transfers his being into the Zetsu clone and when he transforms say? Thousands thanks in advance.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:43, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Sure, but sugar-coating is my specialty, that's why I still have all my teeth intact :D But to get to the task, chapter 618 page 15 or so.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:55, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
So all in all it says nothing afraid, am I? 0_0 What's your opinion on the matter? And yes, sometimes we get lot of inactive editors and at times like this, the very opposite of that...--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:34, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Lol, fair enough and no, should be all for now. But crap? Well, it used to be better, but I wouldn't say that. Do you read anything else?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:24, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Hmm... I guess so. Actually, I read something similar a few days ago, about fans falsely predicting and believing things to be as they want them, only to be disappointed once they turn out differently - going against their wishes, not realizing they aren't the author but readers. Then they say x is crap because it didn't happen their way etc. But well, I'm here mostly for the community too, there still is stuff that interest me and I'm happy about some things like Oro coming back and so on, but I would say it has lost its appeal due to being too long and getting less about ninja than anything, even though the Hashirama's flashback kinda brought back for a little the original theme. Also may I ask when it happened? You loosing most of interest I mean, since I remember you worked on the timeline and similar stuff--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:48, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
You might have "Orochimaru's syndrome" 0_0 once you achieve immortality, you cease valuing life and seeing its true meaning and beauty. Hopefully you won't leave anytime soon, not because we need a translator, but because many have left as of late. Hell, I even miss X29 :D Also people with more than half a brain are needed because as you can see, most of the fanbase aren't the cleverest of folks ._.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:33, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Light and Dark==
 
Hey, Seelentau. I neither know if I can add this to your talk page, nor if it's appropriate, but I am compelled to ask you an important question to me. First off, i'd would like to say that unlike most of the Naruto fanbase, I don't read the series blindly and solely for entertainment. I am more interested in deciphering the many morals, lessons, and overall meaning that Kishi offers in Naruto. With that, I tend to compare it to our lives and how the world is. And for a translator like yourself, whether or not you enjoy the series as much as I do, I know that you must surely be a person who pays close attention to detail. My guess is that most translators do.
 
:However, before I digress, allow me to present my question to you if you don't mind answering it. Hiruzen and Danzo are two characters who have represented light and dark in the series, much like Madara and Hashirama. In your opinion, which group of individuals are a better representation?
 
::Hiruzen and Danzo or Hashirama and Madara? [[File: Senju_Symbol.svg|20px]]'''KotoSenju''' ''('''OldUser:'''JaZZBaND)''-[[user talk: Koto Senju|Talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Koto Senju|Contributions]] 05:46, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Thank You!!! I thought you might say, due to the fact that they were the original. Also, I like your point about the fact that Hiruzen and Danzo were pretty much stained and shaped by Konoha's environment at the time (kind of like parents and kids). Oh, and just as I imagined you would, you gave me an honest answer, instead of backing it up with bias like most would. Thanks, Seelentau, if I have any more questions, I will look forward to your opinion. [[File: Senju_Symbol.svg|20px]]'''KotoSenju''' ''('''OldUser:'''JaZZBaND)''-[[user talk: Koto Senju|Talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Koto Senju|Contributions]] 15:51, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== [[Soul Removal]]'s new name ==
 
 
Is there any way we can make Absorption Soul Technique sound more...English? Absorbing Soul Technique? General Awesomo 22:40, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
:...what? Do you want a translation of the Japanese name or an English name based on that translation? Those names aren't actually supposed to sound English at all, they're just representing the Japanese word in another language. Furthermore, the same Kanji is translated as "Absorbtion" [[Spiralling Absorption Sphere|here]], that's why I translated it that way. Oh and if you want me to answer you on your talk page, I suggest you put a link to it in your signature. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:53, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
::I was just wondering if 吸 could also be translated as "absorbing" or other variants of the word. So that maybe we can make a better sounding name.
 
 
::Also, I don't see the point of having a discussion being split up by two user talk pages. Why do some users do that? General Awesomo 22:59, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::It could, but as I said, this isn't about good sounding or so. People do that because it's hard to keep track of the discussion. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 23:03, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::I'm just saying if we can make it sound a little better without disrupting the translation, it wouldn't hurt. But I'll respect this decision, and I'll try to get used to this way of discussing. General Awesomo ([[User talk:General Awesomo|talk]]) 23:26, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Re: colored manga Edit

ah right thnk u for telling me. the only other website i know to buy the colored edition volumes is plus.shonenjump.com but sadly for some reason the website does not accept my credit card payment. I really would love to obtain the colored images like the way you do and if there is any other way u could help me tht would be excellent. Srry if im annoying ya wth this.--Deeinfernodestroyer (talk) 09:18, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Translation request Edit

Senpai, what's the literal meaning/rōmaji/furigana of 落風伝? Thank you ^_^ —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 16:09, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with you that the first kanji isn't that clear from that image, but it's the closet one to it according to 2ch anime threads. So what's the meaning of refūden anyway? —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 16:28, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
I'm using Denshi Jisho(MILES better than Google) and it gives me these results for 落風伝:

落, kun:ochi, ochiru, otosu and on: raku. Meaning: come down; drop; fall.

風, kun: kaze and on: fuu. Meaning: air; manner; style; wind.

伝, kun:tsutau, tsutaeru, tsutawaru, tsudau, tsute, zutai and on: ten, den. Meaning: communicate; follow; go along; legend; report; tradition; transmit; walk along.

So it would be more of "Rakufūden"(or alternatively "Rakupūden"), which would mean roughly "Falling Wind Chronicles".

...Where did you find this anyway?--JouXIII (talk) 16:46, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

I don't use google to translate stuff^^ • Seelentau 愛 16:48, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
Alright then, good to hear.^^--JouXIII (talk) 16:53, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
Thanks senpai, I think it does make sense anyway. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 20:58, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

The Last/Otsutsuki lore Edit

Hello good sir. I would like to know if you perhaps might not own Retsu no Sho and the novel adaptation of the movie, especially the latter. Just wondering if there aren't some details in those that are not well explained in the movie. For example, i remember it was stated in the Tenseigan energy vessel article that it uses natural energy (not sure if it still says so) what's the source for that? Pretty much asking for fine details in Retsu no Sho and the movie's novelization that aren't in the movie itself, thank you.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 18:25, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Too bad, would like the Otsutsuki Clan article and everything Otsutsuki related to be as correct and complete as humanly possible, since I made that article. But thanks nonetheless.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 18:53, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Kanji confirmation Edit

Can you confirm that Sakura's jutsu in the bottom image here is 桜花裂衝? The romaji is a bit hard to see. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:20, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Also I reason I asked. All the sources I had for that game jutsu are in Japanese, so I didn't question which kanji it was. Dunno how I got the current romaji, I know there are Japanese gameplay videos on youtube, but I don't recall if she says the name of the ougi. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:38, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Translation Request? Edit

Hey Seele. If you don't mind spoilers, would it be much trouble for you to translate two new techniques from one of the leaks from Boruto the Movie? The video quality is meh but you can still hear the names. The techniques are: a earth-like quicklime technique used by Kurotsuchi (pretty sure it's not this) and a crystal-like technique used by Chōjūrō. Here's the --> [https:http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Seelentau?action=edit&section=50//www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v3JBYpIsNc link]. If you don't like spoilers, it's ok if you don't watch it ;)--Omojuze (talk) 09:26, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, gotcha. Maybe in the future then :) --Omojuze (talk) 11:28, August 8, 2015 (UTC)
btw, have you found this or have you managed to hear it for yourself? If the latter, then maybe "Ash Pile Seal" would be closer (like Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning) and the "Lava Release" part wasn't mentioned. Just curious :) ? And thanks again, have you managed to dig up anything regarding Chojuro's technique?--Omojuze (talk) 19:22, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
Oh, thank you. Is it Water Release or anything? also, if the novel is available, is Organic Dinosaur translating it? If so, could I have a link please, just to keep up with the news? :) --Omojuze (talk) 19:30, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
Oh, ok. :( Well thanks anyways. Are you translating it? (and you have it in secret? >.<) on Narutoforums?--Omojuze (talk) 19:34, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
Where the names come from then? haha. If it's a secret, I understand, I'll trust you, have no reason not to. :)--Omojuze (talk) 19:36, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
You said "no to all" so I figured it's not on narutoboards.. lol. But thanks a lot, Seele :) --Omojuze (talk)

Re:Stinky Shinki Edit

Tjaaa, das Internet ist ein lustiger Ort für lustige Leute. Bin echt gespannt, was im Endeffekt draus wird. xD Norleon (talk) 17:56, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Article edits Edit

I think it would be better to restrict discussions involving edits to certain articles to talkpages these days rather than forum threads, given their tendency to explode for no proper reason. :/ What do you think? WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 19:27, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

My point exactly. Not necessarily the forums. Instead, you have a thread like the one I just linked asking when some articles should be updated (rather than just asking on the talkpage), and then it devolves to either people thinking the wiki is already 100% accurate (which is just wrong) or, someone coming in and saying "Don't add unconfirmed info to articles or it'll be reverted" then the users are like "Ah! He's threatening us!" or so. WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 19:46, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Japanese name of Heaven Spear Kick? Edit

Sorry to bother you with this, but I want to get this out of my mind. I presume you have tried it in the past already, but Heaven Spear Kick not having Japanese name is really bothering me... I mean, does it have one? I've tried to search it, but I've limited options... Do you know someone to ask? And if you do, could you ask is it 天槍蹴, Tensōshū(literally Heaven Spear Kick)? Again, Sorry to bother you with this...--JouXIII (talk) 22:55, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, thanks.--JouXIII (talk) 22:59, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Should I talk about Katasuke in the part of Boruto personality with the cheating bits since he is the one who tricks him in the beginning to use it the device? Or should we just wait for the full movie and edit it later? GodlyHades (talk) 02:34, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Timeline PageEdit

Could you give me a link to your Timeline page. Thanks. Munchvtec (talk) 14:51, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

oh lol. I must have missed that. thanks again. Munchvtec (talk) 14:57, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Timeline Edit

Hello Seelentau,

i wonder bit about your timeline. How did you know when exactly was born Izuna?

--Makimaki11 (talk) 10:56, August 12, 2015 (UTC)


Hello Seelentau,

i wonder bit about your timeline. How did you know when exactly was born Izuna?

--Makimaki11 (talk) 10:57, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

OK now let me explain you my observations and you can see for yourself if that is fitting in.

As we know Hiruzen, Koharu and Homura were coming from Academy very soon and we know that they were having Nidaime for Sensei. Pretty much same as Kakashi was for team 7.

But then we go to flashback where escape unit was made off Kagami, Torifu, Danzou, Homura, Koharu, Hiruzen, under the Nidaime.

There was notion that bait is gonna die. Which gets confirmed that KIN&GIN bros eventually killed Nidaime. Kin and GIn being 44 when they died, makes me think that they didnt die in natural death. So i believe Nidaime killed them and they killed him, but due to respect they didnt tell us.

So going to ages..Kagami was 25 years old, torifu 30. So COmpany (Hiruzen, Koharu, Homura, Danzou) was either between 25 and 30 or 30 and bit over. But since Torifu was there with Koharu and Hiruzen (of year 0 and Tobi's attack on Konoha) and roughly same age of 57 it makes me think that he was Same age as Hiruzen.

So Going by that, Kagami was 25 at the time and Nidaime died when Hiruzen was thirty (when KInGin bros confirmed that they have killed Nidaime). That is year 27 before Naruto was born. It was as well Hiruzen day when he became Hokage. it was first shinobi world war.

Also Tobirama's rival was IZuna, which practically makes him same age. So it would make Tobirama 61 years old, thus i believe that it is a bit too much. There wasnt 30 year old diff between Tobirama and Hiruzen, that im sure off.

So i believe that Nidaime was around 50 when he died. Madara used Senju cells to prolong his life, thus he looked like very old. The diff between Madara and IZuna, cant be more than 3 year as well.--Makimaki11 (talk) 12:54, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Well for Kagami and Torifu there is confirmed date at the time when flashback occured. So it is not without basis. And it is also confirmed that Hiruzen became Hokage and 99% that Tobirama died at that day.

Anyway nice timeline indeed. YOu did great work though. Based on what is given to us thorugh databook and vauge data from manga, you certainly did your job.

Thanks though.

--Makimaki11 (talk) 14:04, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Novel listing Edit

[1] <-- Hey Seele. I know that, albeit novel is novel, we should just list "hiden series" stuff in that section, and for various reasons. First of all, it's speculation friendly, for example, Kunoichi, who previously listed characters and techniques that we don't even know if they appeared in the novel version of the movie/episode, using the whole "well it appeared in the episode/movie, so..." notion. Also, it's more lenient and convenient. I dunno, it's listing an adaptation, I just don't think it's worthy.--Omojuze (talk) 09:38, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

Also, there's the whole notion if the hiden series were to be animated, we could get rid of the section entirely.--Omojuze (talk) 09:40, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
Well the manga is the main source and it has pictures (yes, I said it >.<) But, regarding speculation, we cannot confirm whether it is or not, and that is what's frustrating. It just leaves a lot of articles with missing information or false information, so it's better to just omit everything than to leave ~5% of it here, and the other 95 not.--Omojuze (talk) 09:49, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
Well because I had to remove them (well they basically came from Kunoichi) a while ago, and had to ask her to limit novel sections to the hiden novels. But like here, without any source it's hard to say whether she's right or not. I trust you regarding such stuff, but not her. >.<--Omojuze (talk) 09:53, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
[2] <-- Well then could you say the same about the edit right here? It's regarding the "Waterfall Village OVA" novel adaptation. Although, yes, he was one of the major villains, adding it without proof is still wrong. Like I said, this just encourages speculation, with the whole "well, it appeared in the anime/movie, so it had to appear here too" notion. We should just avoid that.--Omojuze (talk) 09:59, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
See, there's no way to confirm these edits, which are most probably true, but we don't know. And that's what leaves 95% of the information missing, leaving the wiki very unclean in that specific sense.--Omojuze (talk) 10:21, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
I'm just saying that anime/movie adaptation novels shouldn't be registered on the entirety due to it being hard to distinguish the information. Unlike with the games, which can be found online and we can actually see, the books leave the reader to interpretate what is happening more often that not, which leads to more speculation.--Omojuze (talk) 10:30, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
Which will never be fully possible. At least with the games, one can find more than half of the information online. This is not the case with the anime/movie novel adaptations. Honestly, it just leaves the wiki unclean, but if you're so adamant with that, so be it.--Omojuze (talk) 10:36, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
The notion of being clean and sticking to actual original novels doesn't make sense? k. >.>--Omojuze (talk) 10:39, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
Sure, because "adaptation" = "original" >.> --Omojuze (talk) 10:46, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

Those "original" novels tell basically what happens/happened in the movie, don't see what's so original about that. but, yeah, if you're so adamant, I'll leave it to you to maintain such matters. --Omojuze (talk) 10:50, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

Well a few sources did say that it was Wind Release after seeing the movie, so I don't believe that this is exclusive, at least not until I see the movie anyways.--Omojuze (talk) 10:55, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
[3] <-- See, there's no quick way to affirm edits like these, which sounds so realistic, but might not be.--Omojuze (talk) 22:40, August 14, 2015 (UTC)
[4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] <-- See... >.> Can you even confirm any of these... >.> I told you that this would happen.--Omojuze (talk) 09:51, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Colored Image: Hiden: Hiding in Scale Powder Technique Edit

I already asked here, but i figured asking directly may help results. Do you have an image of Hiding in Scale Powder colored in the manga?--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 11:42, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Unused pictures Edit

The wiki is supposed to delete unused images, as per Fair Use (I assume). However, I don't make my way to the Image Mines to see which image is used and what isn't.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 12:27, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

Why Do U Prevent Canon Material In The Wikia? Bob1200 (talk) 13:44, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not going to discuss this. Take your fanon shit to the fanon wiki. • Seelentau 愛 13:46, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

Translations Edit

Hey, Seel. I don't we've ever spoken, so sorry if its rude for asking for some of your time. I current need help for a wiki that I frequent. I've seen you on there a couple of months ago, and I know your handiwork. So I'd like to ask for you to proof-read [page][14]. Because with some research i've come that these could be incorrect. Its more with the variations below. I have some opinion what they could be, but I sadly don't speak japanese. Thanks in advance ^^

--{{SUBST:User:New World God/Sig}} 15:33, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

colored imagesEdit

was wondering man, do u have any of the entire volumes in color? and care to share?--RexGodwin (talk) 06:46, August 15, 2015 (UTC)

Translation Help Edit

Hey there, I need a little help here...

I already know that theoretically '仏術' can be read as either "butsujutsu" or "hotokesube".

Now, is it also possible to read it as "bujutsu"? I've made some searches and it seems in some cases you can read '仏' as "bu"('仏供'as "buku" and '仏子' as "bushi").

I just want to make sure...--JouXIII (talk) 16:33, August 15, 2015 (UTC)

...As in "sure, I'll look into it" or "sure, you can read it like that"?--JouXIII (talk) 20:27, August 15, 2015 (UTC)
Alright, just wanted to be sure. Thank you! ^_^ --JouXIII (talk) 21:04, August 15, 2015 (UTC)

Okay Edit

Based on this, wouldn't Hinata being part of Hamura's lineage (lineal descent from an ancestor) contradict the claims of her and other members of the Hyuga clan being descendants of Hagoromo through atavism? Can you break it down for me, please? ^__^ WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 01:41, August 16, 2015 (UTC)

Must of missed that. Thank you :D ~ WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 01:50, August 16, 2015 (UTC)
Whoops. Seems like I contributed to it already and ignored it afterwards x) WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 01:55, August 16, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Infobox manga debut section Edit

So the number instead of the name?--~UltimateSupreme 17:42, August 16, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Edit Acheive Edit

thought i changed it because of Kaze's edit on Hinata article. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Hinata_Hy%C5%ABga?diff=1087966&oldid=1087954 Kunoichi101 (talk) 18:49, August 16, 2015 (UTC)

Re:What the hell... Edit

[Shrug] Just me being a perfectionist/neat freak. Don't mind me lol XD KazeKitsune (talk) 19:38, August 16, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Section Removal Edit

I Removed It Because I Don't Feel Like Being The Target Of Intolerance Because U Guys Can't Deal With How I Type. Also, What Rules? I've Never Seen Any Place For Rules, lol. Bob1200 (talk) 12:43, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

RE:RE: Section Removal Edit

You're not the target of anything. It's just that if you write like shit, you're gonna get shit for it. There are basic grammar rules you have to adhere to and if you don't like that, feel free to leave. You can read the rules here. Also, read everything linked in the yellow box. Otherwise, there'll be consequences you'll have to face if you continue like that in the future. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:52, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

Seems Like Intolerance To Me. Forcing Someone To Do Something In A Specific Way. I Don't Care What Other People Think About How I Type, If They Can't Deal With It Then That's Their Problem For Being Intolerant Douchebags. Bob1200 (talk) 12:55, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

U Do Realize I'm Not A New Member Right? I've Been Editing Stuff Here For Over A Year, lol. Bob1200 (talk) 13:04, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

Forum Edit

Btw I Have Yet To See Any Rules About Grammar, lol. Bob1200 (talk) 13:17, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

Hey Edit

Just ignore him. He's an attention-seeker, that's why he writes like that. Don't even bother with him, unless he breaks the rules.--JOA2013:27, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

Talk PagesEdit

If you could pitch in to these two talk pages that would be great. No one seems to want to. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Kazekage_Clan and http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Fus%C5%8D#Occupation.3F Munchvtec (talk) 13:28, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

JW Edit

Why Was My Vanishing Rasengan Talk Page Taken Off? People Tell Me To Use Talk Pages And Then When I Do They Get Deleted, Like Dafaq. Did I Put It In The Wrong Place Or Something? Bob1200 (talk) 15:15, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

RE: JW Edit

I Did Read The Rules But I Didn't See Anything About Talk Pages Being Removed For Being On Topic. Bob1200 (talk) 15:50, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

Ruby Edit

I added basic support to {{translation}}:

  • Sharingan (写 輪 眼, うつし わ め, Literally meaning: Copy Wheel Eye, Meaning (Viz): Mirror Wheel Eye)
  • Ghost in the shell (攻殻 機動隊, こうか きどうたい)

Removed parenthesis from infobox--~UltimateSupreme 06:46, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Doesn't matter. Its optional. Add it only where needed.
Are there many articles that need ninjutsu? If not just add it like we do with Dōjutsu on Rinnegan and others.
Changed to that format.--~UltimateSupreme 12:52, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Jutsu classification Edit

So, I don't know why exactly you added ninjutsu and dōjutsu to the classification of many kekkei genkai, but it's messing up the category added to the article, and them being detected as kekkei genkai in Special:BrowseData. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:34, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

Well, he'll need to tinker with a few more templates to get it working again. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:31, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

Novel listings Edit

Just to confirm, do novel mentions really count as debuts?--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 18:01, August 20, 2015 (UTC)

V-Jump scan of Storm 4 Edit

Senpai, a new scan from the latest V-Jump issue has been released for the upcoming Storm game.. it shows some good information like Sarada can use Fire Release jutsu... Also it's been stated that the Vanishing Rasengan is named as seen in the image description but the kanji is blurry and not clear... can you clarify it? Thanks —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 12:21, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Okay what about ???の"螺旋丸"?! Is it a description of his Rasengan or what?? —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 12:50, August 21, 2015 (UTC)
In the same scan, from here, at least we got the name of their combination ulitmate jutsu, it's called New Age: Lightning Swift Rasengan (新齢・雷迅螺旋丸, Shinrei: Raijin Rasengan), not sure about the "New Age" thing, thoughts? —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 13:45, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

Choku Tomoe Edit

Does anything canon like the databook say anything about Indra and his reincarnations having Choku Tomoe?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 00:58, August 23, 2015 (UTC)

Just something I thought was interesting.. Edit

If Kishi were to have kept up the Stat charts, they would have had a 6th and 7th tier added in DB4.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/search?q=naruto+settei&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all

As this site you already know well, gives each member stat points and you can upgrade the stat point to higher tiers.

I thought this was very interesting and wonder what it means, and the possible new scores for some people albeit we will never know.. QuakingStar (talk) 01:44, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

I have literally no clue what you want from me. :D • Seelentau 愛 06:23, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

Don't want anything from you, just thought you might be interested in this. ._. QuakingStar (talk) 06:26, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, maybe I shouldn't literally write in English what I'd say in German^^ What I meant was that I don't understand what you mean. What does reddit have to do with the databook stats? @.@ • Seelentau 愛 06:29, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

I noticed that the users on Reddit in this post made their own accounts on the official Naruto training website thing and got their own official Ninja Registration I.D.s, they did the trainings on the site and were given their own official stat points and the highest numbers I have seen on the stat points now are 7. I think that means that if Kishi decided to keep the stat system in we would see 5.5's, 6's, 6.5's, and 7's on the new stats. Very interesting, easy to make fanon stats for characters now. I even made my own list using this new knowledge. Separated from base stats I made boosted stats too QuakingStar (talk) 11:55, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

device Edit

No need to be so anal ._. Can you please answer that? Does that mean Boruto in the movie canon can actually use Wind, Water and Lightning then?--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 12:21, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for answering. Ten-Ten should have been banned too then, because she didn't have to carry all those thousands kunai and shuriken among other things.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 12:52, August 27, 2015 (UTC)


Lol. Edit

Clearly you don't know who you're dealing with, judging by what you wrote on my talk. I will forgive your ignorance this time, but threaten to ban me again and you will realize you made a huge mistake. MDateX (talk) 15:21, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

Hamura's TSB Edit

So Hamura's TSB are indeed in an S-shaped formation? WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 02:26, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

I guess... "Sure." :D And well, they didn't look S-shaped to me... >_< WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 02:39, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
Well, if they're not S-shaped, then why did you put them as sigmoidal? >.< WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 02:50, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
=w= Okay~ :P WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 02:55, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

History Edit

I think some pages could use some history sections, like the five great countries and shinobi maybe? Justin Holland (talk) 03:32, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

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