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Seelentau

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  • I live in Germany
  • My occupation is Translator
  • I am Male
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== Chapter 621 translation ==
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== Translation ==
   
Hi Seelentau, I want to ask about the third missing kanji of Hashirama's Hotei no Jutsu, have you found it? And about Hōbi no Jutsu, is it better to move the page to its literal name? or that's better? [[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 21:31, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
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When you get a chance, could you translate a quote for me? Its Konan talking to Obito, but I can't remember if its one whole quote or two: but they're in the same chapter. Naruto chapter 509, where Konan calls Naruto the "light" and Obito "darkness". Could you get me the literal English as well as the romaji of both quotes? Take your time, its a personal request for something I'm working on, so no rush. Thanks :) ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 04:14, February 18, 2014 (UTC)
:Omni-san just added a third kanji for "Hotei", but I don't know if it's right or not. I checked a bad quality scanned panel for this jutsu. So it was unclear for me. And about the naming, let's wait for Viz translation of these technqiues to see what are the appropriate translations for that. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 22:07, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: Unconfirmed Kanji ==
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== Nawaki and Dan's deaths ==
   
Sorry, but I added the kanji form the chapter scripts on [http://naruto-spoiler.seesaa.net/article/332165522.html this webpage]. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 16:53, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
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Did they die just "in a war" or during 2nd Shinobi World War?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:10, February 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Veil of Cat Fire ==
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==Request==
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Hi. Can you please help me with [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:J%C5%8Dta_Mishina?title=Talk%3AJ%C5%8Dta_Mishina&cb=4430 this] topic? In fact, do you know what gender the two buried characters have? Thanks. [[User:Idontcareaboutmyname|Idontcareaboutmyname]] ([[User talk:Idontcareaboutmyname|talk]]) 17:59, February 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
From [http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/naruto_storm3/images/system/03/06utakata/02.jpg here], I think I found the missing kanji from {{translation|?炎猫火||Ten'en Byōka}}: 纏. Is that the one? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:30, February 28, 2013 (UTC)
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== Just to kill time ==
:So, "Wrapping Blaze Cat Fire" or "Wrapping Flame Cat Fire"? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 04:25, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Kanji ==
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I'm wondering what you think happened to Senju Clan. As seen, during the peace treaty there was plenty of them. Also do you think "Tobi" was in fact Obito just going crazy or Spiral Zetsu speaking on him/transformed?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:56, February 20, 2014 (UTC)
Hey Seelentau, ich find's zwar mittlerweile schon komisch sich hier auf deutsch zu unterhalten, aber was soll's! Ich arbeite als admin momentan auf einem anderen wiki aktiv mit und wir stehen gerade vor einem kleinen Problem. Viele Familiennamen werden ja in Japan mit Kanji geschrieben und jedes Kanji kann dabei unterschiedlich ausgelegt werden. Betrifft das auch die Vornamen? Die Namen in Hiragana zu schreiben wäre falsch, nicht wahr?
 
   
Daher frage ich dich, da du anscheinend auf diesem wiki mit am meisten japanisch verstehst (Hut ab dafür). Weißt du irgendeine Seite im internet, mit der man die Namen ermitteln könnte? Oder eine andere Methode? Wenn nicht, isses nicht schlimm, aber es würde auf jedenfall ungemein helfen! ;)
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== tracks' name translation ==
   
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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Youtube and such list Naruto Shippuuden OST2's "Unkempt Hair (乱髪, Ranpatsu)" as "Midaregami" and "Red Rose (紅薔薇, Benibara)" as "Beni Soubi" instead. Which are correct, I presume ours? Thanks--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:24, February 24, 2014 (UTC)
   
[[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 11:10, February 28, 2013 (UTC)
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Bump--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:40, March 1, 2014 (UTC)
:Nun, wie die Kanji aussehen, weiß ich und auch, wie sie auf Romanji (heißt das so?) geschrieben werden. Ich wusste nur nicht, wie und worüber man Kanji erstellen kann. Die Seite, die du mir gegeben hast, sollte mir aber weiterhelfen können. Vielen Dank! ;)[[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 15:06, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Sage Mode Thoughts? ==
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Thought so, thanks a lot.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:55, March 1, 2014 (UTC)
   
What's your opinion on the whole Sage Mode issue on its talk page? Do you think there are distinct types of it or something else (like me)? There's no general agreement, so we can't restructure the article until there is one. You know of anything in the manga to (somewhat) clear this up? [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 01:05, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
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== Chapter 666 ==
   
Thanks for the response, that's basically what I was thinking. Oh, and sorry about that section spam. My phone must've gone derp when I submitted it. :o [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 20:22, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
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Hi senpai, seems you found the raw version of this chapter. But what about [http://online.mangaraw.net/Naruto-Chapter-666-1-10503.html this page]? Can you summarize it what's written here? And I think it confirmed that the [[Spiral Zetsu]]'s name is already Guruguru. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 13:53, February 28, 2014 (UTC)
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:We're looking forward.. ''And have a safe drive and be at home peacefully'' —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 14:17, February 28, 2014 (UTC)
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::Hi Mr. Seelentau, I was wondering if you have any more information regarding that page? It looks pretty cool and informative, and I was wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing what else it says? -[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 04:03, March 2, 2014 (UTC)
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::::No problem senpai. Take your time and don't rush it and make it easy. You're the best here. ^_^ —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 22:36, March 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Yes, you are one of the most valuable assets to the wiki! Thanks for all you do for us!--[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 22:38, March 6, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Name Mean/Translate? ==
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== Chapter 667 ==
   
Hi, comrade Seelentau. This is my first time talk to u, nice to meet u ^_^.
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Seems Kishi put [http://online.mangaraw.net/Naruto-Chapter-667-1-10539.html another special page this week]. It's about Madara and Izuna. So, don't rush this time as well, senpai. ^_^ —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 13:24, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
I just read in ur profile that u know some Japanese things. Can u (if u want or not busy) transate some names for me? THANKYOU [[User:Small brother|Small brother]] ([[User talk:Small brother|talk]]) 15:37, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Yeah. Ok thankyou. Here:
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Just to know, It's been noticed that Kishi begin to release those special pages on every week starting from the last week just like One Piece special pages. He calls it {{Translation|'''Fourth Shinobi World War Notebook'''|第四次忍界大戦備忘録|Daiyonji Ninkai Taisen Bibōroku}}. So we're expecting for him to release this notebook pages every week, hopefully... —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 15:03, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
# Jinpachi Mishima = 三島 仁八
 
# Heihachi Mishima = 三島 平八
 
# Kazuya Mishima = 三島 一八
 
# Jin Kazama = 風間 仁
 
# Jun Kazama = 風間 準
 
# Asuka Kazama = 風間 飛鳥
 
# Yoshimitsu = 吉光
 
# Kunimitsu = 州光
 
# Ganryu = 巌竜
 
# Kazumi or Kazume Mishima. (Not sure if this name is actually exist). Or, Miharu Hirano = 平野 美晴.
 
So so so sorry if it's long. THANKYOU [[User:Small brother|Small brother]] ([[User talk:Small brother|talk]]) 17:40, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Hi, oh yeah so sorry I forgot, now i added. Can u also only translate this page? [http://www.tekken-official.jp/tag2/chara/unknown.html]. Sorry for disturbing and thank u. THANKYOU [[User:Small brother|Small brother]] ([[User talk:Small brother|talk]]) 18:18, March 3, 2013 (UTC)
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Hey, not too sure you haven't already but when you get the time, could you translate what Kabuto said about healing Sasuke and Tobirama's (assumed) involvement.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:31, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
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:Thanks so much for your outstanding work and no problem at all, senpai. Just translate the most important things when any other pages will be released in the future. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 15:32, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hi, comrade. Sorry to disturb, I just want to know if u finished the translate. If u busy then took ur time, only when u r free if u wan. I just come to remind, sorry again for disturbing and thankyou ^_^. THANKYOU [[User:Small brother|Small brother]] ([[User talk:Small brother|talk]]) 16:00, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
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== Names ==
   
Hi, long time no talking comrade. Comrade, why don't u reply? I'm not angry of course, I just wanna know if u finished it, if I disturb u now then I'm sorry. THANKYOU [[User:Small brother|Small brother]] ([[User talk:Small brother|talk]]) 21:02, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for the quick response! Sadly it didn't help me with the names I'm looking at. I'll try and give you the names here (the are on the wiki, but then you won't have to look for it).
   
Hi again comrade, ok understood, no need to apologize really, u were busy, and thank you very much for the translations ^_^. Could translate the page (link above)? No need for the name only the description, of course of u r free, sorry for disturbing and thank you ^_^. THANKYOU [[User:Small brother|Small brother]] ([[User talk:Small brother|talk]]) 06:24, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
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<p> (Ame - アメ, Ame). (Dango - ダンゴ, Dango). (Choco - チョゴ, Chogo) -- One of these is a girl </p>
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<p> (Ayato - アヤト, Ayato). (Hajiki - ハジキ, Hajiki). (Mari - マリ, Mari) -- One of these is a girl </p>
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<p> (Kiri - キリ, Kiri). (Sō - ソウ, Sō). (Shimo - シモ, Shimo) -- One of these is a girl </p>
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--[[User:Kasan94|Kasan94]] ([[User talk:Kasan94|talk]]) 14:59, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
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:: Thank you very much! --[[User:Kasan94|Kasan94]] ([[User talk:Kasan94|talk]]) 21:23, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Question ==
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== Translation request ==
   
Hi Seelentau, can you translate the title of the upcoming opening song of Naruto Shippūden (ニワカ雨ニモ負ケズ) .. Thanks —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 20:40, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
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Hi senpai, I want to you to translate this line for me:
:Isn't ''Niwaka Ame ni mo Makezu''? Because we need to edit the music article to create this song article. Anyway, here is the [http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/naruto/news/news07/index.html#143633 source for the song title]. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 20:51, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
::That's good, thanks so much ^_^ —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 21:50, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Possible rename ==
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カカシに助けられダンゾウ裏切るが命を狙われることに
   
Could you check the audio at [[Talk:Splitting Technique#Rename to Fission Technique.]]? As far as dialogue goes, we might have a name for the technique, similar to Mirage Genjutsu. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:15, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
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It's about a short summary of March 20's anime episode posted in 2ch anime threads. Also it claims that the fillers will continue on April. [[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 04:38, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:Okay, somehow I got it... Thanks so much senpai. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 12:24, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Madara's brothers ==
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=== Another request please ===
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Senpai, could you check my talkpage again? And also, I wonder about the credits list in the latest episode. If possible, could you check it for me especially that Root's member?? Thanks so much... —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 21:47, March 13, 2014 (UTC)
   
What exactly does he say? I still can't get over the fact both scanlations got the number of brothers wrong. Is there any way what Madara said can be interpreted as "we're five brothers" instead of "I have five brothers"? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:49, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
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'''Due to personal problems I won't be that active in the upcoming weeks. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.'''
   
== Re: Only chapters ==
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== I'm not blind ==
   
That's how it's done since before I came around. I presume it's because if you go to the chapter, there's a number and link to the volume. Volumes also list new characters. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:30, March 10, 2013 (UTC)
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I'm well aware that real life occupies you otherwise at the present (when doesn't it tho? xD perhaps when we are asleep) but once you find some time and interest (be it a week from now or two, I'm not hurrying you nor am I in a hurry) then I would like to know your opinion on how the special Jugo Clan bodies actually work. The bodily fluids are responsible for Senninka, but is it the fluids/enzyme themselves what actually make the bodies absorb natural energy? Because originally, I had them separated but Omni merged the two. I assume it's a separate thing from the fluids within the special bodies what absorbs natural energy.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:24, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Kamui's dimension ==
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"since the PC is my top priority" you should be ashamed... like seriously. Well, who am i kidding myself? ;D But quite often I would best just smash my laptop and throw it outta window. The constant latency issues and disconnects are just unbearable. Like this man doesn't get angered easily, but enough is enough. And wow, good luck with relocation.
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For special bodies, yeah, I wanted to know tho if you think the fluids which allow transformation do also absorb natural energy or not. Because if the latter, we might have two kekkei genkai going on. Do you see them as separate or one thing?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:22, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
In chapter 597, page 6 if I'm not mistaken. Kakashi says something like "Ore no Kamui no Jikūkan (something else)". The way he says it, can "Kamui no Jikūkan" be considered a name for the dimension Kamui sends stuff to? There's a discussion in the page's talk about a rename. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:25, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
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A little help my man. You might have noticed my topic at Kabuto's talkpage. The dialogue and context clearly state twice in the chapter/episode that Kabuto's form is a result of Senninka. This is further evidenced by Kabuto's appearance now while healing Sasuke, as he is in Sage Mode/Senninka, he regained not just the horns but everything. Currently it's assumed Kabuto's snake appearance by the time of the war is a result of Orochimaru's cells, which is contradicted. How to make sense of it?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:30, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
:Bump. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 03:05, March 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Sound Four Technique ==
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Not sure what you mean by that. Do you disagree with me or the article as is? Also not sure what you are referring to with that. If to [http://www.qpic.ws/images/unbenanntnmn.png this], then I don't disagree more or less with that explanation of yours. I'm not arguing semantics anymore. What I'm talking about is that according to that chapter, Kabuto's snake form is due to Senninka/Sage Mode rather than Orochimaru's cells as the article currently claims.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:09, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
What is the exact translation? We currently have it as "Sound Four: Summoning Technique: Four Corner Beast Formation". Kanji and romaji seem to be correct going by Japanese Wikipedia (though they dropped the group's name from the technique's name). 音隠れ四人衆・口寄せ・四獣包囲の陣, Otogakure Yoninshū: Kuchiyose: Shijū Hōi no Jin. First two parts are easy, "Sound Four: Summoning: Four Beasts ??? Formation", but the other part has more translation options. Also, should the Four Beasts part be translated as that? [http://tangorin.com/general/四獣 It has two possible meanings], and both apply: Four different summons ("beasts"), and the Sound Four's standing in each direction being a reference to 四神. Maybe even 四神獣? And I have no idea what would be the [http://tangorin.com/general/包囲 best translation] for 包囲. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:33, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
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Only under the (in my opinion quite clearly false) impression that [http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140224114658/naruto/images/e/e4/Kabuto_full.png this form] is a later stage of [http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090813180058/naruto/images/a/ab/Orochi_In_Kabuto2.PNG this] ignoring the fact that his arm and face do not even look the same between the two, not to mention what he said. He stated that if it were to take over completely, he would die and he is obviously alive. As you could see in the chapter, when Suigetsu asked what's with Kabuto and Jugo's bodies, he started talking about Senninka. Later in the same chapter Orochimaru undoing Senninka removed Kabuto's snake features. Are we finally on the same page? ^_--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:22, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
:Bump. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:40, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Could you please take a look Mr. Tau? :D ==
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Well, I'm not Kishimoto, just pointing out what was stated and shown in the chapter.
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But Oro-takeover obviously didn't happen, that's as clear as day, because he would have died had it happened and wouldn't be Kabuto but Orochimaru 2. Just because he appeared during the war with a similar form, it was simply assumed by the fanbase that it did happen and he ended up like that as a result. And that's the thing, he isn't always looking like that. After Orochimaru undid Senninka, Kabuto turned normal. He is now healing Sasuke in Senninka/Sage Mode hence he has snake features again ^_ In short, Kabuto using Senjutsu = snake features, Kabuto not using Senjutsu = no snake features--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:52, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:The_Snake_and%E2%80%A6 here please]--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:57, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
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== Maito Dai ==
   
== Episode 306 translations ==
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Senpai, sorry for the disturbance. But is it better to wait for Viz's release of this chapter on Monday to see how they will romanize his name? —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 20:32, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
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:You're right. Because Might Guy's name came from Viz's guidebooks as stated from his trivia section. So, at least we'll wait to Monday to see how Viz will romanize his name. I asked OmegaRasengan for this favor and let's see... —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 21:12, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
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::Wakatteru, so we won't be redirecting his name to any other name till the new databook's release. Thanks for your response, senpai... —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 21:21, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hi Seelentau and how are you? I have two question for this episode, the first is what's the kanji of Eyebright that said here? I couldn't find the suitable kanji for that at all. The second is about [[Might Guy]]'s taijutsu technique that used in this episode, what's it? Thanks —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 16:42, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re:Bot work ==
   
== Naruto movie 6 ==
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Sure. But there are probably more things that need editing like for example pages like [[Baku (ANBU)]], [[Bird-Masked ANBU Member]], etc.. Also the word needs to be changed in the infobox.''[[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme</span>]]'' 15:56, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
can you edit the article since you know Japanese --[[User:Roger (UserJmootams brother)|Roger (UserJmootams brother)]] ([[User talk:Roger (UserJmootams brother)|talk]]) 19:42, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Earth Golem ==
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I'm on it.--''[[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme</span>]]'' 15:05, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hi Seelentau, I found in the Studio Pierrot blog webpage that the [[Earth Golem]]s' name is revealed to be (土牢剛霊無, ''Dorō Gōremu''). What's the exact meaning of its name? —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 16:49, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
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== Today's episode ==
:There's a topic about it in the episode's talk page as well. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:22, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
::While I did not find that talk page, I found the translation for the Kanji: ''Earth Prison Strength Soul Nothingness''. It's a Gairaigo. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:45, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::And about the talk page, check [[Talk:The Vengeful#New information|here]]. Thanks so much ^_^ —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 17:53, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== chapter 626 ==
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It's more than awesome, I really loved every scene of it... But I'm just wondering about Tenzō's jūin is still active during all that time. I don't recall that Yamato in the recent days talks so much about the Root, so this episode could cover that part I think, couldn't it? —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 12:17, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
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:Yeah, me as well. It's getting better and better... —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 12:24, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
Could you please translate the sound effects? People say Madara put Hashi under a genjutsu, do the last panels support that?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:15, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
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That definitely wasn't Shisui's Sharingan I suppose. Then why was it loosing sight? Also not sure how to feel about this episode. Yamato is/was quite feminine I would say, like come on... what happened to the whole "Roots have no emotions" ??? He definitely sucked as one. I still don't consider it canon, it requires a leap of faith and I'm an atheist. I mean, I could definitely see Yamato having been a Root as canon in Kishi's head, I just don't like the stuff surrounding it made by Pierrot like his interactions with Kakashi, smoke people, experiment reject substory that makes it even more confusing (so is he Tenzo? ._.) and so on --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:29, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
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:He isn't Tenzō and he has emotions because he wasn't adopted as a baby, but as a child and learned to have emotions while sitting in Orochimaru's tank. The stuff surrounding Yamato's background isn't that relevant, hm? I mean, who cares if he at some point met some smoke people, that ain't gonna change anything about his timeline. And since the whole stuff fits, I'll incorporate it. ^_^ [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:34, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
Thank you, please, once it becomes available, we would like that translated I guess ^_ sound effect signs should not be dismissed :P if not raw then viz would do, but that will take a while.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:34, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
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== Fukai? ==
   
Raws are available now. We also need a proper translation on Hashirama's new technique. As far as Tangorin can help me, it's "Summit/Top/Peak Transformed Buddha". [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:02, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
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In the episode with Fukai, did it say that Fukai's Father, Uncle and predecesors were jinchuriki or did it only mention his uncle and father. The answer is needed for a small debate Thank You. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 15:47, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
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:[http://raw.narutoverse.org/Raw/542/narutoverse03/ Here is the line, senpai]... —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 15:50, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
   
Thanks, I meant when Hashi looks up and there appears to be a sound effect, is that rain dropping or something like that?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:00, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
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Okay Thank You. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 15:50, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
   
Awesome, thank you mister :D--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:13, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
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== Unnecessary Snapping ==
   
== Episode 308 translations ==
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My apologizes for snapping at you (I think it was mostly you) this weekend. Weird week.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:43, March 24, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hi Seelentau. If you have spare time, could you give the kanji names and literal meaning for these following techniques from the recent episode:
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== just thought it might be thought worthy ==
#[[Hayate]]'s [[Secret Sword: Earth Shadow]].
 
#[[Iō (medical-nin)|Iō]]'s [[Earth Release: Flying Stones]].
 
#[[Yūgao]]'s [[Moonlit Night]].
 
Thanks so much. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 14:54, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Ah okay, take your time. :) —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 15:03, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== any opinion? ==
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I believe that Kishi has made So6p's brother to explain Ginkaku and Kinkaku. They were suspected to be of direct descent from So6p, but for that, they would either have to be Senju, Uzumaki or Uchiha, none of which they appeared to be. Meaning the brother was made to serve as ancestry for the two.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:49, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
   
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Madara_Uchiha#creation_of_all_things if any of course, if so, would like to know what you think--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:49, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
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== Indras Dōjutsu.svg ==
   
More input needed, not just from you, but anyone, I find this unconcluded and confusing http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Chakra#life_force_topic I believe you have some original japanese sources at your disposal, is this anywhere specified?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:08, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
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You refers to "put together" both Dojutsu (background of the Mangekyo Sharingan and form of the Indra's Dojutsu)?
   
== Episode 309 translations ==
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[[User:Sasukeuzumaki|Sasukeuzumaki]] ([[User Talk:Sasukeuzumaki|Mi discusión]]) 13:32, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hi Seelentau, I ask you about the country which appeared in this episode. According to the ending episode, it's called {{translation|此の国|Ko no Kuni}}. But I couldn't find a suitable translation. The subtitles referred for it to "This nation". —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 13:17, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
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:The icon is ready. This is the icon: http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140327140208/pruebasburijji/es/images/2/24/Saimingan.svg. Do you like? --[[User:Sasukeuzumaki|Sasukeuzumaki]] ([[User Talk:Sasukeuzumaki|Mi discusión]]) 14:09, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
:Okay, but we have to name this country to create its article. Should it better to called it (Land of This)??!! —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 13:35, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== ancient Kirin topic ==
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::What is the link of your wiki? --[[User:Sasukeuzumaki|Sasukeuzumaki]] ([[User Talk:Sasukeuzumaki|Mi discusión]]) 14:29, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
   
Just bored, so wanted to explain it to you. In order to "catch" the natural lightning, Sasuke has to use lightning natured chakra, it wouldn't work with ordinary chakra because there's no way it could reach that high, he just links the natural lightning in the sky with a super-weak chidori in hand like a magnet of sorts, shapes it using shape transformation alone and then brings it down using the link. So all in all, chidori/lightning release is needed to tame it, tho the monster itself isn't created with lightning chakra, that's why it isn't called Lightning Release: Kirin and yet it is one 0_o more examples of the same things are: [[Fire Release: Mist Blaze Dance Technique]] and [[Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning]] mist blaze uses natural fire to ignite fire release chakra natured gas and with Asuma's technique, the gun-powder is also coated in fire release chakra and then ignited by natural means. Again, I was just bored so it's for nothing, sorry for spamming ur talkpage :)--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:23, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
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== why is it ==
   
== UNS3 ultimates ==
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That as of lately, the chapters have a page state "chapter end" only for there to be one extra page after that?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:21, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
   
So, kanji for some of the ultimates from the game started to appear. I would have waited around a bit longer to add and ask for translations, but some other users already started adding them, so I checked to see if they matched the ones where I could find them. The ones with kanji for now are:
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== Sasuke's Tsukuyomi ==
* [[Cat Fire Bowl]]. The very literal translation made this an easy one, but I'd like to put some trivia around the actual cat brazier in it, but I have no idea if it has a mythological or cultural significance to point out.
 
* [[Five-Mountain Jump]]. There was a wrong kanji in it, but I corrected it, and the translation is the same as far as I know, so no need to change anything I think.
 
* [[Freight Bubbles]]. I added the kanji for that one, because someone else had added the wrong ones, but I don't know if the game name is an accurate translation of the Japanese.
 
* [[Lightning Straight]]. I did my best to add the literal translation of the several kanji in it.
 
* [[Rough Sea Splash]]. I moved it from "Rough Sea Spume" when someone added the kanji.
 
* [[Scale Powder Blasting]]. We've had the kanji for that from day one basically, since they were readable in one of the earliest videos of the game.
 
* [[Scorching River Great Eruption]]. Another one I moved from the game name when someone added the wrong kanji. I put the kanji I found in more than one source.
 
* [[Sickle Mist Technique]]. The "Ninja Art" part was dropped, like in many articles. The only thing I'm not sure if it's "-kiri" or "-giri".
 
* [[Storm Release: Black Hunting]]. I added the kanji, put what I believe to be the proper pronunciation of the kanji in the trivia, and added literal English, which could use a more proper look.
 
* [[Sword of Kagutsuchi]]. Kanji were added when videos with good enough audio became available, they're correct.
 
* [[Tengai Shinsei]]. Actual kanji are finally available, and I think this will end up being left untranslated, kinda in keeping with some other Rinnegan techniques, particularly Deva Path ones, which this also seems to be.
 
* Mifune's ultimate is the only new ultimate we still don't have an article for, because we didn't even have the game name for it. The game name for it is "Resident Decapitation", and the only source I have on the Japanese says his ultimate is called {{translation|居斬|いきる|Ikiru}}. I'm certain that in this technique or in at least one of the above there's a pun or word-play I did not find or recognise.
 
   
I'm still going through sites and lists, and I was able to gather a significant portion of the techniques used in the Ultimate Ninja series, though the thread I made about it in the forums is not up to date with what I have, I'm trying to translate as much as I can before asking for help. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:58, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
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Oh no, so you too? ... T_T why "nah" ?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:16, April 1, 2014 (UTC)
:Like I said, I'm trying to get as many game jutsu kanji done by myself before asking for you to take a look at it, because when I do ask for it, it'll be a lot. I have a 50 page long file where I'm listing everything I can. Most of it is already in a thread I made in the forums, spanning from UN1 through UN5, and UNS, but it's still missing UNI/S2/SG/S3 techniques in the thread. Most of UNS2/G is coming from the site I got UNS3 info, since most characters' movesets didn't change, only bummer is that they all lost a combo in UNS3, so there's usually one technique being left out, but that site still hasn't published all the movesets. I'm also trying to find Ultimate Ninja Heroes 3 stuff, since that in the Japanese games, that is sort of what would UN6 would have been (UN4, 5 and that are from the same series subset), but so far all I managed are youtube videos, which are harder to get kanji out of. Something I discovered since making the topic, is that kamakiri, written with the same kama kanji, but using a different kanji for the kiri part, is the word for a praying mantis. I'm sort of wondering in the pun is deliberate, and an indication that the romaji would actually be kamakiri instead of kamagiri. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:54, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Kotoamatsukami ==
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* Plenty of things have been deducted through context.
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* Plenty of things weren't spoken, only shown. According to this logic, we should dismiss a character's usage of a technique if he/she doesn't spell out its name before casting it. So a Rasengan used without Naruto yelling "Rasengan!!!" first doesn't count as one, I get it? We are safe when it comes to him tho, he is dumb enough to do it each time.
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* So suddenly a passage from a databook is old, yet it isn't old when it comes to the whole Kakashi-Obito timeline, gud.
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* Not sure if I get this.
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* Good question, but since Sasuke managed to break Itachi out of it with just Genjutsu: Sharingan (meaning it was possible and enough), that means Itachi wasted a Tsukuyomi for nothing. We can try to assume an unspoken context to it, like it having been Kishi's way of telling us that Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi, but it would be an assumption.
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* Gyuki broke him out of it?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:42, April 1, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hi Seelentau, wondering why you removed my edit on Kotoamatsukami regarding the decade limitation between uses?... Do you not agree with what I wrote? Thanks. --[[User:UchihaFan|UchihaFan]] ([[User talk:UchihaFan|talk]]) 17:44, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
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As much as I don't want to have this discussion ''again'', I kindly ask that this matter be brought to the article's talk page. Having the matter discussed in specific user talk pages where few others would check is essentially robbing others the chance to participate. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:08, April 1, 2014 (UTC)
   
I agree with you that what I wrote can't be proven literally from manga facts.
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== Re: Mythology ==
   
Consequently, the following statement from Shisui's page "This genjutsu however, could only be used once a decade, unless the user had a way to augment the process such as with Hashirama Senju's cells, thereby drastically reducing the time required from ten years to only a few hours." would also be circumstantial conjecture at best and not pure manga facts.
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The Asura are originally from Hinduism, as are several other elements of Buddhist cosmology (Buddhism originated in India). The concept of Chakra also comes from Hinduism. The various Japanese spellings all essentially refer to the same thing: アスラ (''Asura'') is a direct transliteration of the actual Sanskrit word, while 阿修羅 (''Ashura'', ''Asura'') and 修羅 (''Shura'') are derived from Chinese translations of the Sanskrit, which would have migrated from China to Japan through Buddhism. The same is true for Indra, インドラ (''Indora'') is a transliteration of the Sanskrit while 因陀羅 (''Indora'', ''Indara'') is a translation of the Chinese (Indra is known as Śakra in Buddhism). In both cases, Kishimoto probably took the most common readings (''Ashura'' and ''Indora'').
   
There are only two references to the use of Kotoamatsukami by Shisui :
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As for why he used "Asura and Indra," which aren't particularily dichotomous (Asura referring to a mythological species while Indra refers to a specific deity), as opposed to say "Asura and Deva" or "Agni and Indra", it's hard to say. Part of it is probably that the Asura and Deva have distinct personalities (Asura = passionate / Deva = emotionless), while Indra has certain imagery that can be connected to Sasuke and Susano'o (wielding a lightning bolt, a god of storms and war). The two names also have three syllables and end with ''ra'', making them sound related. At least, that's my assumption. [[User:FF-Suzaku|FF-Suzaku]] ([[User talk:FF-Suzaku|talk]]) 09:06, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
1- Ao fought Shisui and has full knowledge of the ability of his Mangekyō Sharingan.
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Borrowing topic. Not sure if it's of any worth, but the Hyuga name has to do with Sun, while Kaguya the first known Byakugan user was related to the Moon. Something to make of it?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:19, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
2- Shisui tried using Kotoamatsukami to prevent the coup d'etat.
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== Parentage ==
   
At the time of his death, Shisui was about the same age as Itachi : around 17 years old... If you assume he did not awake his Mangekyō Sharingan before the age of 7 AND that he can only use Kotoamatsukami twice every decade (once for each eye) then you must conclude that the fight with Ao and the coup d'etat are the only two times Shisui used Kotoamatsukami!
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Unless what I'm reading is, it says that Asura and Indra's mother is [[Kaguya Ootsutsuki]]. Which would mean, that their grandmother is also their mother. I just...I just really need to be sure if that is correct.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:11, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
Furthermore, we know the use of Sharigan by non-Uchiha such as Kakashi is very taxing on chakra, thus it is more than reasonable to assume that the use of Mangekyō Sharingan by a crow would be even more so, to the point that it would take a decade for it to "recharge".
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Gods obviously love incest. Also in case of nobles, it's done to maintain "pure blood" so that could have been the case as well--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:11, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
What are your thoughts on this?...By the way, if I'm bothering you with my questions, don't worry about it, just tell me to shut up! ;-) Thanks --[[User:UchihaFan|UchihaFan]] ([[User talk:UchihaFan|talk]]) 18:37, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
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== Icon ==
   
== re:Obito age ==
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The new icon doesn't appears because it's necessary refresh the browser, as Ctrl+F5.
   
Thank you for support ^_ dunno why do people have issues with that. Although, I would like you to check Kakashi's and then Rin and Obito's ninja registration numbers. Is it obviously a retcon, since as of the number, Kakashi was originally to graduate before them, not along with them--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:11, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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Also, the icon can be late, but it appears correctly early.
   
Yes, I obviously know that since I'm saying the same. But Kakashi's ninja registration number is uneven to those of Obito and Kakashi, suggesting difference of years between his participation in the academy and theirs. At least that's how I understand those numbers, Kakashi's is 009720 while Obito and Rin's are 010886 and 010885, suggesting the other two were in the same bunch of graduates--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:31, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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[[User:Sasukeuzumaki|Sasukeuzumaki]] ([[User Talk:Sasukeuzumaki|Mi discusión]]) 19:52, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
Do you understand how the Itachiwashero guy counts? I'm not getting his schematics, I don't want to offend and state him to be wrong, even though I'm more or less certain that Obito is around 34 now. Either I'm too dumb or he isn't explaining it properly.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:47, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
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== 671 raw ==
   
== Master Chen ==
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Is it already out? MP and MS translations differ considerably, I'm not sure which of them has added words and meaning that don't belong there, so could you then please translate the relevant passages? Thanks. Especially I'm curious about the incest. If Kaguya is mother of Ashura and Indra, then wouldn't that make Hagoromo's sons his half-brothers as well? 0_o--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:36, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
From the Old Man and the Dragon's Eye, during the episode, he's also called "Master Chen". What does: {{translation||チェン老師|Chen Rōshi}} translate into exactly? Lord Tangorin gave me some translations, but they don't quite fit Chen. They only fit if I sort of translate them separately, which would result into something like "Old Master". [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:31, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
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Everything doesn't fit, but ok ^_ But yes, they are more accurate than usual.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:01, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Sakumo killing Sasori's parents matter ==
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Contradicts manga? ^_ The whole Obito-Kakashi thing. I'm telling you the manga is more accurate than the old databooks and Pierrot based it on the old information. But whatever, let us enjoy the stuff flawed or not, everything will come to light, eventually.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:16, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
I know there isn't any specific reference for this, but the war had begun before Nagato turned 10 (since then was after when Jiraiya began teaching him and noted him to have mastered all basic nature transformation and shit at that age) and Nagato's age during his death is around 42, unless I'm mistaken. Sasori's parents died before he turned 5 since that's when grandma with wooden hand started to teach him puppetry, so let's say 4. 35 (his age) - 4 = 31.
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Wouldn't the manga be corrected in re-releases if it had such big errors in it? And even if they talk to Kishi, you imply that we should trust the man who contradicts himself.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:30, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
42 (Nagato's age) - 31 years of difference = 11 and as you may know, Second World War as still raged when Nagato was 11, so Sakumo indeed killed the parents during that war. I'm bringing this up because you have removed that from articles--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:18, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
If we assume the Ame Orphans were about the same age which is safe to I guess, Yahiko died as about 25 years old, SINCE Chouji described him as a man in between 25-30 years old by his appearance, the former being more likely. He died about 17 years before current events during the very end of 3rd Shinobi World War, well... 25+17=42, that's it. Since I doubt Nagato and Konan were older than that, that's their most probable age. Even if it's off by a little bit up or down, Sakumo still killed Sasori's parents during 2nd Shinobi World War for fuc*ing SURE, since it began some time before Nagato's parents died and lasted up to his maturity. Glad I could help--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:38, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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If the author says so, it's canon, as weird as it may be. We should document it and once and IF it changes in a re-release, it shall be updated--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:09, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
Depends, Sasori was 35 as we know. It's not that much of an assumption, let's say Yahiko was rather 30 than 25. 54 (Jiraiya's age) - 17 = 37, I doubt there was only 7 year difference between Ame Orphans and J-man when he began teaching them, that would have made him 17 when fighting Hanzo so improbable, Sannin were like in their early 20's so Nagato and Konan being 42 is a very close approximate rather than assumption. We don't know exactly when 2nd Shinobi World War started, but it was before Nagato turned 10 and lasted up to their maturity. And since there is 7 years of difference between Sasori and Nagato (circa) and the former's parents died before he turned 5, there was definitely a war when Nagato was 11. I mean, it's not completely baseless, is it?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:27, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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Jut wondering, do the latest chapters actually state that Naruto and Sasuke are literal reincarnations or not? Because panda uses transmigrants or something like that--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:22, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
His article, something akin to Chiyo teaching him puppetry at 5 to compensate for the loss of his parents--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:34, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you a lot. But they are unlikely to be Ashura and Indra in person, right? The dialogue says only their chakras continue to get passed down. Because I can't see how could there be Madara&Sasuke and Hashirama&Naruto all at once--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:02, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
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Thank you pal. I won't bother you any longer for today ^_ --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:28, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Archive ==
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Hey, could you translate what the Sage says when Naruto and Sasuke gives him their hands: does he ask for their dominant hand or just a hand? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:05, April 5, 2014 (UTC)
Hey i would like to ask how can i create an archive?--[[User:ROOT 根|ROOT 根]] ([[User talk:ROOT 根|talk]]) 16:08, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== My apologies ==
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== infinite tsukuyomi portrayal ==
   
Hopefully you don't take a disagreement personally, you can think anything you want about me but you aren't an authority I must agree with, even though I respect you greatly for things you have done for this place and all. I just think in that case, you are seeing more to it than there is. We were told everyone has an affinity and that Uchihas had one for fire, nowhere it suggests the nature itself is hereditary, rather the talent for it is, because if what you are saying was true, then all Uzumakis would share a single chakra nature or any clan with heavy inbreeding for that matter. The reason why Uchihas do is because it's a tradition to use Katon and what's being passed down with the genes is talent, even a person unrelated to Uchiha may have fire affinity.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:50, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
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What I in fact was referring to how in the movie, Naruto and Sakura literary got transported over to another dimension, rather than just being asleep, that's contradictory.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:44, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
Re-reading some stuff more in-depth, you might be right actually. It would appear that some people's chakra "lean" towards a certain nature. The whole Kakuzu hearts thing hints as such--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:30, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
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Do you recall the movie at all? If not then I suggest you to rewatch it.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:11, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hi, I don't know if you get on Fan sites but I currently Run http://naruto-fandom.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_Fandom_Wiki. I am now looking for admins on the wikia, and ways to figure out how to let people create characters using the infoboxes you guys have here. Let me know if you could possibly help please.
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The movie version trapped Naruto and Sakura there physically to another dimension, also made it possible for AU Sakura to enter real world. While the manga adaptation simply puts people's minds into said space.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:25, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
[[User:EmperorSigma|EmperorSigma]] ([[User talk:EmperorSigma|talk]]) 16:14, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
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Kishimoto wrote the movie. Yet the technique presented in it differs from what's been stated and shown in manga. That I suppose makes the former non-canon?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:31, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
== feedback ==
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Not the events in the movie themselves, but things like techniques and so on, since it was made by Kishi.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:32, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
Just would like your personal opinion on these:
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Sorry for eavesdropping, but I don't think there's any indication that Naruto and Sakura got physically transported. It was all an illusion -- they likely remained stationary while the events occured (in fact, I believe only a short while actually passes while they're trapped in it). The Sakura that was displaced from the Genjutsu World was likewise an illusion; she ultimately faded from existence (and given that the episode was created to promote the movie, is probably even less canon than the movie itself). Besides, the technique Obito used in the film was the Limited Tsukuyomi, not the Infinite Tsukuyomi. [[User:FF-Suzaku|FF-Suzaku]] ([[User talk:FF-Suzaku|talk]]) 09:39, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Ten-Tails#species/classification%20again%20... the topic is dead, so just to talkpage please
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:Then I suggest you to rewatch it again. After Naruto and Sakura left the alternate world, Naruto still had the Yondaime cloak on which just disappeared into nothing like 5 seconds later and both of them noticed it. There's plenty of evidence they were actually there. They weren't just seeing things, since when do two people experience the same hallucination at once? Also if the world weren't real, then the whole plot of the movie would have been pointless. And Limited Tsukuyomi was stated to be a trial version of Infinite Tsukuyomi, same technique, just incomplete.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:38, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Earth_Release:_Earth_Shore_Return#Shinobi%20Alliance something has to be done
 
* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Kabuto_Yakushi#the_article_as_is transfusion and transplants do not alter DNA
 
* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Six_Paths_of_Pain#Madara_Says :-/
 
* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Orochimaru#when_head_hit_a_wall a serious one
 
Thank you--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:28, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
So you do in fact agree with some of my sentiments? But this is a wiki, shouldn't be about "who is right" but "what is correct" The only "evidence" they would likely accept is if Kishimoto himself has appeared sitting on their laps, whispering into their ears, while massaging their nipples, this reminds me the whole "is Orochimaru a Sage?" case and many religion-science related topic I have had in the past, I know it's unrelated to this show, but trying to convince fanatics in delusion is pretty much the same.
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== Sand Siblings ougi ==
Still, I'd like to hear at least your personal opinion on topics 1, 3 and 5.
 
The author is limited in how much he can explain things and progress the plot at the same time, the manga chapters are getting shorter and shorter... (no idea why is that, but perhaps it's not selling enough?)
 
Funny, since the topics were brought up because the manga ITSELF says otherwise to what we have listed here.
 
First, it's clear Kishimoto obviously has a pretty clear distinction between DNA and cells. A foreign cell doesn't alter DNA of host cell, at least in most cases not, especially not blood cells, unless it's a parasitic virus. The only thing that blood juice did to Kabuto was the injected cells were trying to defeat Kabuto's immune system, procreate and replace his own cells, but his body WON and reverted the process. Kishimoto EVEN bothered to explain what happened to Kabuto and why he looked like that by drawing Jugo and having him clarify it was a result of Sage Transformation (Jugo's own mutative ability), commenting on Orochimaru's doing, that what he did was absorb the chakra that Kabuto had from Anko and undo his Senninka.
 
So already two-three things are false on Narutopedia:
 
* we state he is a mutant, which is false
 
* that Orochimaru's DNA was responsible for his form, while he purposely took on that form
 
* for this, people get confused ans speculate that he lost these powers, which is false, Orochimaru didn't suck out his blood or anything.
 
   
The one about white-snake guy's sealing is an obvious one, I don't think I have to repeat myself for 50th time. And at last, Jubi's classification as a "tailed beast" is definitely incorrect, I'm 99% sure of that. Not only it's false, but we should update information as more is getting revealed, the latest pieces of information state it's a deity, so we should list it as such. Another thing, [[Demonic Statue of the Outer Path]] and [[Ten-Tails]] should have been merged long ago in my opinion. Sorry if it's too long :-/--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:36, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
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In the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGF4DxHBrCY latest UNSR trailer], you can hear the name of their combo ultimate. From the sound alone, I think it's 灼熱砂縛柩/"Shakunetsu Sabaku Kyū". Is it incorrect for me to translate the shakunetsu part as "scorching hot" instead of "scorching heat"? In this case, in English at least, it seems more appropriate. I know tangorin also translates it as "red hot", which sort of gives leeway to translate as hot, but that is already the more literal translation of 赤熱/sekinetsu. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 03:16, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
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:Why the em dash instead of the interpunct though? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:35, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
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::Ok then. In other UNSR news, the official site has been updated. There's not much, but there is [http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/naruto_r/system/ one page] with info. Anything interesting there worth noting? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:11, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
   
== The big one ==
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== haha xD ==
   
Well, here it comes. The single, most massive translation check request you'll ever receive. Going through the sources linked and mentioned at forum topic, I have done my best to list pretty much every possible technique in the Ultimate Ninja series. There are still a few to come in, but that depends on the site I get kanji for UNS3 updating. At the moment, all the kanji I can copy and paste from somewhere else is listed and translated. The only specific aid I can still provide, other than answering particulars about some translations here and there, is to link specifically for the UNH3 moveset videos, since that one, I wasn't able to find actual moveset lists that I can copy and paste. Don't hesitate to bug me about it, you'll probably want once you see the size of list, if you haven't already. [[Forum:Video game jutsu overhaul|The list]]. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:31, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
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It seems Shaduw and Shadow use this website for dating purposes... and then Spey wonders why some are against further socializing, we don't need this.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:14, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Your skills are required ==
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== Kaguya = an extraterrestrial ? ._. ==
   
What exactly did Zetsu say about Nagato's relation to the Senju in chapter 606, page 12 should it be? Thank you.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:53, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
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Does the dialogue suggests so when Naruto asks about this?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:11, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
   
So the word "descent" is really there? I trust you more than some random forum guy, so I take it Uzumaki are indeed descendants of Senju?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:09, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
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== night moth ==
   
But doesn't lineage go both ways, meaning Uzumaki could have been first? This is his response to your translation:
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Why exactly did some translate it like that?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:09, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
* There is no word there that says descend 降りる from Senju Lineage, it says of Senju Lineage/Blood Relations (Kettō), you will never find the descend or descendant Kanji on that text. The Viz Translation uses "of"
 
* We have here the Younger Son who clearly isn't known to have had red hair, in fact if we look at the anime depiction, the hair color is black and none of his shown Senju descendants did have red hair.
 
* Then suddenly there's a "descendant" clan (Uzumaki) of the Younger Son whose pure blooded members (Naruto is half) all have red hair? Impossible. Obviously the Uzumakis like ancient clans practice "inbreeding" that they have always had red hair.
 
   
Taking Biology into account, hair is one of the most consistent genes, and having the same color of hair in a clan who inbreeds is true. It doesn't make sense that a "descending" clan could develop such an unorthodox hair color if the original hair color was a different color. The interbreeding clan (Senju) would have to have red hair, or a strong dominant gene for it, but the Senjus don't, and red hair in itself is a recessive gene in humans.
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According to google translate (lol) stands for moth (Ga) so perhaps there's some double meaning to it?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:25, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
   
Oh, also unrelated, but latest chapters again likely wrongly supports that Hashirama had lived long enough to see Tsunade develop super strength, so about her late childhood/early adolescence I would say... unless she was born like that. Databooks suggest one thing, manga SEVERAL others. Chapter cover 303 says that by Part II. it's been 50 years since his death, meaning he died when Tsunade was 4 .__.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:56, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
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Even tho I'm sure your translation is correct and it's meant to be Night Guy, contextually, night and moth together do make more sense, since moths are nocturnal I believe? Also moths are perceived as symbols of death and the technique requires Gate of Death.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:31, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
   
Also isn't Hashirama's god gate no jutsu a barrier technique rather than sealing technique?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:10, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
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== Senju clan of the forest ==
   
You are correct, it's missing in the volume release. This is the only thing I could get http://a.mpcdn.net/manga/p/739/132537/1.jpg ... could be photoshopped or otherwise added by anyone but Kishimoto? take a look before it gets deleted :P--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:55, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
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Is there a passage anywhere in those chapters where Obito told Sasuke the story about Konoha's founding, or in the third databook, perhaps in a character entry, that specifically says that the reason the Senju were called "of the forest" was due to Hashirama's Wood Release? I do recall some databook entry saying that their name being "Senju" was due to them having great skill in all areas of jutsu instead of focusing on just one. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:04, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
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:About Wood Release/of the forest or Senju/due to mastery in many skill areas? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:05, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
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::Which one is the first you heard now? The "of the forest" being attributed to Hashirama's Wood Release, or the name Senju being a reference of skills in all areas of jutsu? I'm more certain of the Senju one, which appeared either in the third databook or in a later artbook. I recall reading that in a scanlation. The "of the forest" is the one I need a bit more info on. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:23, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hmm... it's present on all scanlation covers. Anyway, we can be "sure" Hashirama outlived Tobirama 0_o--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:03, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
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== Character number source ==
   
Tailed Beasts were created in the Jubi's image and share its chakra, their souls were inserted by Rikudou Sennin. Black Zetsu was created in image of White Zetsu, shares his power and is Madara's will embodied. I strongly believe what Madara did back there was Creation of All Things--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:53, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
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Could you check if I translated [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_Shippūden:_Ultimate_Ninja_Storm_Revolution?diff=866306&oldid=865802 this] properly? Many thanks. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:00, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
Yes. It's about concept, both cases were created from something (Tailed Beasts from Jubi's chakra, Black Zetsu from White Zetsu's body) and forms of both are embodiment of will/imagination - Yin and then blown life with - Yang.
 
Well, White Zetsus are clones of Hashirama or rather even possibly clones of [[Hashirama's Living Clone]] but as you can see, the latter has no soul/consciousness. Zetsus look NOTHING like Hashirama despite having his DNA, meaning their form was Madara's invention "yin" and he made them alive unlike HLC with "yang" Uchiha Madara in the end, indeed is a lesser version of Sage of Six Paths, also stated by Kabuto.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:59, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
No. Also Tailed Beasts weren't created from Jubi, just its chakra. Seemingly even after the process, some had left since Madara sucked it to stay alive. In both cases, something serves as a medium (chakra, body) Rikudou Sennin didn't have to completely (or almost completely) rid the Jubi of its chakra, it was in order to defeat it. Since only a fragment of each of the Tailed Beasts' chakra is/would be enough to revive it, so would have been a fragment enough to create them in the first place. White Zetsus were definitely created with Yin-Yang release too, not only Madara's statement suggests it, but also [[Swirl Zetsu]] serves as enough of a proof to me, his forms represents... lack of imagination :D He might have been the very first before Madara settled on the final "design"--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:46, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
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== About Enton ==
   
For you it represents a different technique somehow, while to me it seems to be the same thing. The separation part isn't mandatory to the technique. As I said, So6p didn't have to make Jubi an invalid, he could have just used a little bit of its existing chakra rather than permanently removing it from its body and splitting it. But I strongly believe that a medium may be a necessity (not a requirement tho) for Creation of All Things, since there's only as much "imagination" can do. It's easier to do it according to a template/from something than to make nothing turn into existence. Both White and Black Zetsus were created using yin-yang release. Hash's cells as a medium => giving it form and other qualities/attributes with yin => giving it life with yang. For BZ, using already shaped Hash from WZ => turning it into will embodied thus slightly altering its mind and form with yin => giving it life with yang.
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While the discussion about Kagutsuchi kind of overwhelmed the point of the topic, it seemed that we were generally in agreement about how the black flames should be defined. I think we should continue to push that, and take the Kagutsuchi stuff to its own topic... Hopefully folks will start answering '''my''' questions then. :p Thought I should ask you since you're the one who first brought it up. I still agree that Enton's definition here should be changed. —「[[User Talk:SaiST|'''SaiST''']]」<sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px|link=Special:Contributions/SaiST]]</sup> 14:57, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
I know where you think is a difference though. Adam being made of soil/dirt while Eva from his rib? Now, what more reasoning do you still have for Madara not being BS user?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:43, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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== 673 ==
   
He did, he didn't take a part of WZ like his rib and made BZ from it, he created BZ only accordingly to WZ to fit him, notice that BZ is different, so there's body forming. He only glued them together, BZ didn't grow from WZ's body--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:10, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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Either Kishimoto is going for maximum crazy, or someone went through a lot of trouble to make a fake spoiler for 673. It looks like the [http://s29.postimg.org/6u1pseafb/spoiler1.jpg first] [http://s4.postimg.org/e9bqyaeod/spoiler_2_a.jpg three] [http://s29.postimg.org/gtwm8alon/spoiler2.jpg pages] are out, per that thing that Jump has been doing for a couple weeks now. And they look insane. Are they good quality enough to translate? Anything other than the obvious stuff? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:23, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
I'm saying he didn't grow from his body, by "gluing" I meant that BZ grew in place where WZ has half his side missing. He isn't his alter-ego since they are both separate individuals, so the comparison doesn't work--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:21, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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: They're real. Bleach's came out too. Looks like Naruto really ''is'' a pseudo-jinchūriki if that's what I think it is. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 01:34, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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::I thought that too. Keeping all that out of the articles until the entire chapter comes out might be problematic. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:38, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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::: We might want to put up a message sitewide, or something. That technique kanji is {{translation|Sage Technique: Lava Release Rasenshuriken|仙術・溶遁螺旋手裏剣|Senjutsu: Yōton Rasenshuriken}} for sure, but I don't know if we want to hold off on adding that content until the entire chapter comes out. Like you said, it's going to be hard. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 01:49, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
You are right. But how does that change being yin-yang release? Even Madara says so. Cool, so WZ's leg was sacrificed to make BZ, they both are still separate entities though. Think of them as of conjoined twins--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:40, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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Yay, Lava Shuriken !!! Epicz--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:30, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:Saw them, Foxy-sama. It's {{translation|'''Sage Art: Lava Release Rasenshuriken'''|仙法・熔遁螺旋手裏剣|Senpō: Yōton Rasenshuriken}}. I predict that Naruto will use all sorts of the bijū skills techniques like Matatabi's fire release and Isobu's water release and so on. Can't wait :) —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 14:37, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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::... Sand control too? ._.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:45, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
Whatever the case, he used YYR to create WZs, so still not creation of all things?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:07, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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http://puu.sh/85LqZ.png http://puu.sh/85Lru.png http://puu.sh/85LuR.png<br />
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Not sure what exactly Madara's talking about on the second page... [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:21, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:So Naruto uses a KKG now, rait?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:23, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:Per definition, yes. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:27, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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::This scenario gives me quite a headache. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:33, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:::How come? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:13, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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::::I saw the raws. Does this mean that Naruto now can use a kekkei tōta (wind+fire+earth nature) or it's just a Lava Release Rasenshuriken?--[[User:JOA20|JOA20]] ([[User talk:JOA20|talk]]) 16:18, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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::::: No. That literally translated to "Sage Art: Lava Release Rasenshuriken". Why would he have a kekkei tōta? Also @Seel, I think he's referring to the fact that this chapter will pretty much confirm Naruto as a pseudo-jinchūriki of eight of the nine tailed beasts as well as Naruto demonstrating a kekkei genkai. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 16:22, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::I don't think there's Fūton involved here. It's the same as a Wind Release Rasenshuriken, just with Lava Release. By the way, he's using the fire-radical kanji here. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:26, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Then what about the shuriken-like protusions? Anyway, you're right, Naruto only talks about Lava Release here.--[[User:JOA20|JOA20]] ([[User talk:JOA20|talk]]) 16:28, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::What about them? They're made of lava, too. I also think that it's justified to write down the information given by these spoilers, since technically, even if we'd only add them after the whole chapter is available, it would still be earlier than the official release of the chapter. Furthermore, these information come from an official source, so it's legit to add them in my opinion. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:35, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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I don't really think the pseudo is the issue here, on the contrary, I think that this chapter really cements that quite unambiguously. I still disagree with Son's Lava Release being considered kkg, and by extension Roshi and now Naruto's though. Kkg stems from genetics, which I still don't think it's the case for Son. I know we already have Shinju with Sharingan, which makes it even worse for me, because in one case, it feels right to me, and the other it feels wrong. I still hope that if another databook is published, Son's Lava Release techniques are not considered kkg. Regarding the new Rasenshuriken, I think it does contain Wind Release. The blades cut through the stone, that feels like wind chakra to me. I'd list the technique as Wind Release and Lava Release. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:39, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:Ah, yes. Naruto asked Son for Chakra, not for a KKG. I don't think his LR is KKG, too. So to sum this up, Naruto has no LR KKG, no FR/ER natures and his new Rasen Shuriken is LR and we write in the trivia that it's unclear if he's still using WR, too. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:44, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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::If we're going to officially add this content, I suggest we create the page first, then take the discussion of the technique's elements there.--'''NaviiGator''' <small>''('''A.K.A.'''KotoSenju)''</small><sup><small>[[user talk: Koto Senju|Talk Page]]-[[Special:Contributions/Koto Senju|My Contributions]]</small></sup> 16:45, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Does anyone mind me creating the page now?--[[User:JOA20|JOA20]] ([[User talk:JOA20|talk]]) 16:51, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Or, better yet, [[Board:Naruto Discussion|create a thread about it]] before making a page ;)
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:::@JOA: Pages shouldn't be created from a closed discussion on a user's talkpage... :/ --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:52, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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::::Not sure if sarcasm or change of mind Seel. You're the one who made the topic proposing that we list Son's LR as kkg for it, that also got Roshi listed as having LR as a kkg. As far as I'm concerned, no Son-based LR would be listed as kkg, they'd stay as tailed beast skill only. They'd still have to have ER and FR added though. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:06, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::I did? Oh well, change of mind, I guess, since the German wiki (=me) doesn't list them as KKG, either. But I wouldn't add ER/FR to Roshi's and Naruto's article, since they (or at least Naruto) got pre-mixed lava chakra, he didn't need to apply Seishitsuhenka. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:09, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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How else would they have LR? Advanced natures don't exist on their own. Should Danzō have ER and WR removed because he gets Wood Release from the arm already? Besides, we've Son breathing just fire. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:17, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:If we decide to add the technique, I'm going to update Naruto's page to reflect his status as a pseudo. We were iffy before, but this puts it beyond a shadow of a doubt. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 17:18, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:No, they don't. But as I said, Naruto asks Son for some chakra, not the ability to create fire and earth chakra. Son kneaded his chakra and gave it the lava nature, then Naruto used it in his technique. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:22, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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::In Conclusion.
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:::1) Naruto is a Pesudo-Jinchuriki of the One, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six, Seven, and Eight-Tails, and the jinchuriki of the Nine-Tails.
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:::2) Son Goku's Lava Release is not a kekkei genkai for it's jinchuriki (No real opinion on this one)
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:::3) Lava Release: Rasenshuriken is a thing.
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:::4) Madara is boned.
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::Sound good?--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:20, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
I don't think all YYR techniques work the same, creating stuff and **** therefore it must be the same technique Rikudou Sennin used. Izanagi is Yin-Yang Release too, yet it's not "creation" rather manipulation of tangible and intangible, switching them around. I believe either manga states it's it soon, or next databook will list him, but I think we should list him already now, there's not much harm, is there? EDIT: also I believe GoDai already has an explanation for the whole "shinobi alliance doton users" thingy--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:17, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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::: Sounds fantastic. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 17:21, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Re: Fūtō ==
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Are we ''really'' sure Naruto is a pseudo-jinchuriki though? Minato and Kushina appeared in his mind when he had their chakra, the tailed beasts are just doing the same thing now, aren't they? He didn't acquire the chakra through special means like the Kin-Gin Brothers, just through a regular chakra transfer, and there's nothing saying his tailed beast chakra can't run out (as in, his body isn't known to be producing more of it). If he's a pseudo-jinchuriki, then wouldn't the entire alliance all be Kurama's pseudo-jinchuriki?--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 17:41, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:There's a difference in having a beast's chakra and having its consciousness. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:43, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
The kanji are taken from the spoiler script found [http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=47360665&postcount=8 here]. [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 20:15, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
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::: Yeah, he's talking to them and they're responding by giving him their chakra. That's way different than just having their chakra inside of him. Even Kinkaku and Ginkaku couldn't do that. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 17:44, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Something interesting? ==
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::::My point was that Minato and Kushina also appeared in his mind and that Kushina also used her techniques within it. This is really no different, but he isn't considered a pseudo-jinchuriki of his parents (whatever that would even mean). He does technically fit the requirements for pseudo though. Sora in the anime seems to have had a finite amount of Nine-Tails chakra, and we weren't explicitly told Kinkaku and Ginkaku's bodies were capable of producing more Nine-Tails chakra without eating more chakra meat (as likely as it seems).--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 17:48, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Of course he's not a Jinchuriki of his parents. Was the term "pesudo-jinchuriki" ever defined by the manga or is it a term you guys came up with? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:51, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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This discussion should really be happening on the forum thread, it's becoming hard to follow this here on the talkpage ;) --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:55, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
In mangastream's version of 632, they put in these two pages after the colour spread, seems to be a sort of recap about Naruto and Sasuke. In [http://blog.pierrot.jp/archives/5526 this] Pierrot blog post, there seems to be something about Road to Ninja and the Prologue to Road to Ninja episode. Something interesting in either of these? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 05:51, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
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== topic I'd really like your opinion on ==
   
== should explain the alliance thing? ==
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Regarding what's up with Tailed Beast Rasengan. An actual technique or just an impossible concept?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:23, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
A nature can be used either as an energy with each having unique properties, or as a material. And according to Godai, using pre-existing source of material (which is more than likely true since it's suggested by usage of techniques) requires less of elemental chakra to manipulate and less skill too.
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But then it isn't Rasengan but a [[Tailed Beast Ball]]--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:03, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
For an example, using nearby water source to form a dragon is less taxing and difficult than what Tobirama did against Hiruzen in manga, creating it from chakra. So same goes for the Earth Wall. Everyone's chakra can be changed into either of the five natures. While it takes years of training to use nature besides one's own affinity, the chakra has since it must have hints of all 5, otherwise it should be possible to change it into anything, not just those main things. The "affinity leaning" must be something contained within cells of an individual which create the chakra rather than the chakra itself, supported by having an organ transplanted giving a nature to the recipient, while getting chakra restored with transfer technique or absorbing it from anyone, DOESN'T grant a new nature. It all supports my understanding ;-) but back to the point.
 
   
So while it may be difficult for someone with Wind affinity to use Fire, Hand Seals should help, since they make control and concentration easier. So in my opinion and I strongly believe it, anyone can create elemental chakra of any x from the 5 natures to a '''lesser''' extent. For example Naruto was told to imagine two forces grinding edges against each other which would thin and sharpen his chakra in order to create stronger and more of wind natured chakra. So perhaps Katon chakra is being created by thinking of sensation of heat? Water by concentrating about wet and imagining waves? Well in short, if the lesser extent is true and with the GoDai stuff, using pre-existing earth from ground made it much easier, while they wouldn't be able to use it like Hiruzen did, spitting it from mouth. As much and you dislike it and don't want to hear it, if true it says than anyone can do (as long as skilled enough) a basic let's say C or D rank Katon, Doton, Suiton, Raiton and Fuuton technique with hand seals and available material medium. Even though Naruto's affinity is Wind, he isn't skilled at Fuuton, since he can just create amount and maintain it long enough to combine it with shape transformation and form a Shuriken. But he is yet to be shown infusing/enhancing already existing air with wind chakra like Temari, and nowhere close to Danzo (which I would say was the most impressive user) blowing sharp air from mouth.
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Please, be that kind and explain to Foxie the difference. His ears are obviously deaf, perhaps he should learn to read from lips. I hope you actually understand me.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:50, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
So in short, Naruto is the same level Fuuton user as Shikamaru, Chouji and Ino are Doton, a low one. But he had to combine it with Rasengan and it was hard due to "looking left while also looking right" thingy and he has to use wind natured chakra as energy to do this, while the 3 had benefit of using existing material and doing only very basic form of shape transformation. Disagree?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:19, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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:I was talking about the topic of listing Naruto as Yoton user--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:32, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
That's not really how it works because your saying that by thinking of a certain scene or sensation you can use any element and it shouldn't be hard for naruto to do fire style the thing is that you have to do apply Nature Transformation to change your chakra to a specific type.[[User:Whiteraven1|Whiteraven1]] ([[User talk:Whiteraven1|talk]]) 18:39, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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That's the sad part, we are tearing each other apart instead of cooperating. But trust me, I want to, but that's hard with certain arrogant and ignorant individuals. Perhaps I'm one too :P Oh well ._.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:51, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
== strength of a hundred seal ==
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I may or may not agree (not that my opinion is even relevant around here) but I'm still curious how you are gonna handle that over at German wiki and your reasoning behind it.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:00, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
What evidence is there to suggest that it's a separate technique from "yin seal" ? Just because the "release" fuinjutsu is called "yin seal: release" doesn't mean the "storage" technique has to be yin seal. Doesn't have to follow Shiki Fuujin pattern.
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That's my man, finally someone who gets that Naruto doesn't have Katon and Doton natures and ability to merge them. Now only they have to get this. Listing him as a user is a fallacy of the highest caliber--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:21, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
The thing that it increased her strength and stuff is speculation, hell, she hasn't done anything close to Tsunade yet. Also someone should get his/her shit straight already, now one article says one thing, some else another, like [[Cherry Blossom Impact]] states Sakura to be user of [[Yin Seal]]--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:22, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Byakugō is written here with another kanji than in [[Strength of a Hundred Technique]], right? So shouldn't it have another name?--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 16:01, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: Yin seal stuff ==
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== chakra receivers same as truth balls? ==
   
I'm still catching up a bit. I don't edit for just under two days, discussion on a subjects kicks it into overdrive in more than one talk page, talk about Murphy's Law. Anyway, I have not read everything (and probably won't), but what I currently in-series is that: Strength of a Hundred Seal so far is another name for Yin Seal (I read Shizune's sentence as in "the seal needed for SoaH"), Sakura does have Yin Seal, and based on her thoughts she can/will release it, so she should be listed as having it (think Obito with Human Path claim), but we still don't know which technique she's going to use, just Creation Rebirth, or actually Strength of a Hundred, which would imply in her know CR too, as we currently list SoaH as a derived one from it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:12, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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If you think about it, Madara made them from his will (yin) and Hashirama Plant Clone's body (Yang), not to mention Hashirama was also a Sage.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:29, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
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:And the fact they seem to negate chakra and ninjutsu. --[[User:Taynio|Taynio]] ([[User talk:Taynio|talk]]) 15:31, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Seal of White Strength ==
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== When the raws come.. ==
   
Shouldn't [[White Strength Seal]] be named "Seal of White Strength?" 白豪'''の'''印. After looking up some seal techniques, not every technique has の/''no'' in it's kanji (e.g., [[Five Elements Seal]]), but when it does (e.g., [[Shrine Seal]]), shouldn't we acknowledge that? Like we do for [[Strength of a Hundred Technique]], [[Sword of Totsuka]] and other techniques with の/''no'' in their kanji.
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Can you translate everything about Kaguya's third eye ?Rinnegan/Sharingan, and Sasuke's supposed Rinnegan please?? [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 17:37, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
I know the whole の thing is a little troublesome and sometimes gets in the way of translations, but shouldn't we be consistent with this? General Awesomo 10:55, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
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== Hidan ==
:As far as I know, we've never been consistent with that. Many Jutsu have names like "x no Jutsu" and are translated as "x Technique", that's why I decided to go with that translation. Of course you're free to change it, but I think this whole matter has lived through enough changes in the past week. I don't want to change anything related to it until we've more information on that topic. Oh, and as Omnibender said, they don't have to be translated as "Technique of x", although I handle it like this in the German Narutopedia. As I mentioned somewhere else, I really don't know why Suki-senpai named the Byakugō no Jutsu that way, it should've been either "Hundred Strength Technique" or "Technique of Hundred Strength", since its Japanese name is Byakugō no Jutsu and not Byaku no Gō (no) Jutsu. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:37, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Tail Chasing Fang Rotating Fang ==
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Senpai, is it true that Deidara joined Akatsuki before Hidan and that makes Hidan was the newest member besides Tobi? If yes, could you remind me which chapter that stated this event? Thanks so much... —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 22:23, April 17, 2014 (UTC)
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:I can take this one. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] | [[User talk:Jacce|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacce|Contributions]] 07:29, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
Could you check if the change by anonymous user was correct: is it "ooi gagatenga" or "ooi gatenga"? By the way, could you check if full name of [[Human Beast Combination Transformation: Three-Headed Wolf]] is correct?--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 23:09, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: Anime specials and such ==
:OK, thanks.--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 18:52, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Well, thanks for response anyway.--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 18:29, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
:By the way, with "Formation E", how will E be read in Japanese?--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 18:48, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Thanks.--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 19:05, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Episode 316 translation stuff ==
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Sure senpai, just two question please. Do you want a list for just fillers or all the arcs together? And do I have to include the specials from the canon episodes as well? [[User:Shakhmoot/Anime#The Anime-only Arcs|Firstly check this]] and say your opinion about it. :) —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 11:12, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hi Seelentau and how are you? Long time no see there ... I have question and request about the latest episode. The question is could you give the moniker name of [[Heiji]] that he said to Kabuto? And my request is if you could check the kanji names and literal meaning of the episode technique like [[Earth Release: Sand Dance]] and [[Winding Smoke Technique]] and [[Daimaru]]'s moniker name. Thanks —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 08:14, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
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It's quite long list (just for Shippūden), but it may help you a lot:
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Start-up At Last!'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル ついに始動!}} / Episodes #1 - #2.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Art is an Explosion!'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 芸術は爆発だ!}} / Episodes #6 - #7.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Kakashi Team Mobilized!'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル カカシ班出動!}} / Episodes #8 - #9.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Summer Formation!'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 夏の陣!}} / Episodes #22 - #23.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: It's Blown Away to Another Dimension!'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 異空間まで吹っ飛ばせ!}} / Episodes #29 - #30.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Emergency, The Newborn Kakashi Team Departure for the Front!'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル いざ、新生カカシ班出陣!}} / Episodes #36 - #37.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Time of the Battle, Coming!'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 戦いの刻、来たる!}} / Episodes #40 - #41.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Sasuke Appears!'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル サスケ登場!}} / Episodes #51 - #52.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Sprout Konoha!'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 木ノ葉芽吹く!}} / Episodes #53 - #54.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Claw Rip the Darkness! Blowing Gale'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 闇を裂く鉤爪!烈風吹き抜ける}} / Episodes #57 - #58.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Konoha, Complete Closure! On High Alert'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 木ノ葉、完全閉鎖!厳戒態勢}} / Episodes #64 - #65.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Red Chakra! Runaway and Destruction'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 赤きチャクラ!破壊と暴走}} / Episodes #68 - #69.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Big Clash! Akatsuki vs. Asuma Team Battle'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 大激突!暁VSアスマ班 決戦}} / Episodes #76 - #77.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Asuma Dies! Sarrow and Despair'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル アスマ死す!絶望と慟哭}} / Episodes #78 - #79.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: The Will of Fire Entrusted, New Jutsu's Explostion'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 託された火の意志、新術炸裂!}} / Episodes #86 - #87.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Three-Tails Emergance Arc, Naruto vs. Guren!'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 三尾出現の章・ナルトVS紅蓮!}} / Episodes #101 - #102.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Three-Tails Emergance Arc, Battle of Sealing!'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 三尾出現の章・封印大作戦!}} / Episodes #103 - #104.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Kakashi Chronicles ~Boys' Life on the Battlefield~'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル カカシ外伝 〜戦場のボーイズライフ〜}} / Episodes #119 - #120.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Tales of a Gutsy Ninja ~Jiraiya Ninja Scroll~'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル ド根性忍伝 〜自来也忍法帖〜}} / Episodes #127 - #128.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Amegakure Infiltrated! Jiraiya's Determination'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜雨隠れ潜入!自来也の決意〜}} / Episodes #129 - #130.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Vicissitudes's End! Reunion of Brothers'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜流転の果て!兄弟の再会〜}} / Episodes #135 - #136.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Naruto's Tears! The Vow of Comeback'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜ナルトの涙!再起の誓い〜}} / Episodes #153 - #154.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Big Adventure! The Quest for the Fourth Hokage's Legacy'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜大冒険!四代目の遺産を探せ〜}} / Episodes #170 - #171.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Record of the Gutsy Ninja Master and Student'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜ド根性師弟忍風録〜}} / Episodes #186 - #187.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Time to Start the Move! The Five Kage Summit Convened'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜動き出す時代!緊急招集五影会談〜}} / Episodes #197 - #198.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Into the Fourth Great Shinobi War! Five Kage's Decision'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜第四次忍界大戦へ!五影の決断〜}} / Episodes #221 - #222.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Father's Decision and Mother's Tears ~Naruto's Birth~'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 父の決断 母の涙 〜ナルト出生の秘密〜}} / Episodes #248 - #249.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Time for the Oath!! Ino-Shika-Chō's Farewell'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 誓いの時 〜さらば猪鹿蝶!!〜}} / Episodes #273 - #274.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: The Two People's Secret Story, Tsunade and Raikage's Bet'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 秘話・綱手 & 雷影 〜二人が賭けたもの〜}} / Episodes #286 - #287.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: The Will of Unchanging, The Heart Moves'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜変わらぬ意志・心動く時〜}} / Episodes #327 - #328.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: Akatsuki Starts its Moves, Bridage to Youth'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 暁始動〜青春への懸け橋〜}} / Episodes #347 - #348.
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#{{translation|'''Naruto Shippūden Special: The Boy Called Tenzō'''|NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜テンゾウと呼ばれた少年〜}} / Episodes #353 - #354.
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Anything else, senpai? —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 14:57, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
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:I just took the Japanese names from Shippūden's Japanese Wikipedia page and I translated them. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 15:17, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
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::[http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/NARUTO_-%E3%83%8A%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88-_%E7%96%BE%E9%A2%A8%E4%BC%9D#%E8%84%9A%E6%B3%A8 Here]. Just take a look for the footnotes, and you're warmly welcome :) —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 15:46, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Kidaichū ==
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== ignored topics ==
   
Any mistakes in how scanlations translated what Shino said about them? I want to make a page for the new bug species. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:52, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
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For some reason, people are too busy arguing about forum and chat rules and if Lava Release Shuriken is Lava Release or not (0_o) instead of contributing to the important topics... I know your stance at this point is: "I don't care what you guys do" but are you really okay with Naruto being listed as a jinchuuriki of all 9 Tailed Beasts and so on, not to mention the logic of this wiki is beyond me. Speculation makes its way into the articles super fast (just check Naruto's abilities section) and actual stuff that's obvious doesn't get listed until we are told twice, because autism (like Hagoromo being Senjutsu user)--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:16, April 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
== re: age estimates ==
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It's good, I'd like you state your opinion on the whole which natures Naruto has topic. And are you sure that Naruto is host of all Biju? Because we were never shown them entering his body, in fact we were multiple times told that he only has their chakra. Naruto originally pulled out (before Madara resealed them) the 2-7 Tailed Beasts from Obito using their chakra. What you suggest is that the Tailed Beasts pulled themselves out, existing twice or something.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:40, April 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
There's a reference in his article.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:32, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
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== Dōjutsu info clarification ==
   
Yes and no? You are correct at that my dear, but Minato wasn't older than mid-twenties during his death since he was Nagato's generation.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:00, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
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Hey. Could you translate what Hagoromoro says about Kaguya's dōjutsu whether she had the Sharingan or wielded its power. I think the wording might help us to set a way to deal with her/Sasuke's dōjutsu. Also if recent raws are out, does Madara refer to Sasuke's dōjutsu as the Rinnegan explicitly? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:54, April 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
* Shikamaru, Chouji and Ino are the same age as Naruto, so even if possibly wrong, it's more than slightly reasonable to assume that his father would be about the same age as their parents by now (circa 41, 1 year more or less)
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== Naruto 674 ==
* More likely than not, Jiraya began teaching Minato after Nagato, once returning from 2nd Shinobi World War. J-man left Nagato as 10 years old and Minato just graduated form Academy as 10 years old to become J-man's student, so they both were mostly the same age, difference of months. Chouji described Yahiko as someone of age 25-30, the former more likely. 25+17 (he died about 1 year before Naruto's birth) equals 42, Nagato and Konan's ages. 42-16 = 26, Minato's age when he died.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:34, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: Forwards ==
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Seems the entire RAW came out earlier this week, confirmed by Baidu (Bleach and One Piece did the same). Linkage for translations is [http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2996839943 here]. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 04:23, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
   
Grammatically, it's not correct from what I know at least. Forward still indicates a definite direction, but I'm guessing you wanted it to convey the verb meaning in terms of movement right? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:50, June 12, 2013 (UTC)
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Is it just me or have the tomoe from Sasuke's Rinnegan eventually vanished?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:27, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
 
== Chapter 634 ==
 
 
Could you write down translations of the new techniques?--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 21:56, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Thanks for cheching them.--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 14:27, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Oro Zetsu stuff ==
 
 
My sincerest apology for the constant interruption and bothering of yours with matters of little life relevant importance, but your expertise is unmatched amongst us, that's why I look up to you with another request you could help with I'm certain; if not for the feedback, we would appreciate if you told us what does the sound effect after Orochimaru transfers his being into the Zetsu clone and when he transforms say? Thousands thanks in advance.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:43, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Sure, but sugar-coating is my specialty, that's why I still have all my teeth intact :D But to get to the task, chapter 618 page 15 or so.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:55, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
So all in all it says nothing afraid, am I? 0_0 What's your opinion on the matter? And yes, sometimes we get lot of inactive editors and at times like this, the very opposite of that...--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:34, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Lol, fair enough and no, should be all for now. But crap? Well, it used to be better, but I wouldn't say that. Do you read anything else?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:24, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Hmm... I guess so. Actually, I read something similar a few days ago, about fans falsely predicting and believing things to be as they want them, only to be disappointed once they turn out differently - going against their wishes, not realizing they aren't the author but readers. Then they say x is crap because it didn't happen their way etc. But well, I'm here mostly for the community too, there still is stuff that interest me and I'm happy about some things like Oro coming back and so on, but I would say it has lost its appeal due to being too long and getting less about ninja than anything, even though the Hashirama's flashback kinda brought back for a little the original theme. Also may I ask when it happened? You loosing most of interest I mean, since I remember you worked on the timeline and similar stuff--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:48, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
You might have "Orochimaru's syndrome" 0_0 once you achieve immortality, you cease valuing life and seeing its true meaning and beauty. Hopefully you won't leave anytime soon, not because we need a translator, but because many have left as of late. Hell, I even miss X29 :D Also people with more than half a brain are needed because as you can see, most of the fanbase aren't the cleverest of folks ._.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:33, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Light and Dark==
 
Hey, Seelentau. I neither know if I can add this to your talk page, nor if it's appropriate, but I am compelled to ask you an important question to me. First off, i'd would like to say that unlike most of the Naruto fanbase, I don't read the series blindly and solely for entertainment. I am more interested in deciphering the many morals, lessons, and overall meaning that Kishi offers in Naruto. With that, I tend to compare it to our lives and how the world is. And for a translator like yourself, whether or not you enjoy the series as much as I do, I know that you must surely be a person who pays close attention to detail. My guess is that most translators do.
 
:However, before I digress, allow me to present my question to you if you don't mind answering it. Hiruzen and Danzo are two characters who have represented light and dark in the series, much like Madara and Hashirama. In your opinion, which group of individuals are a better representation?
 
::Hiruzen and Danzo or Hashirama and Madara? [[File: Senju_Symbol.svg|20px]]'''KotoSenju''' ''('''OldUser:'''JaZZBaND)''-[[user talk: Koto Senju|Talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Koto Senju|Contributions]] 05:46, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Thank You!!! I thought you might say, due to the fact that they were the original. Also, I like your point about the fact that Hiruzen and Danzo were pretty much stained and shaped by Konoha's environment at the time (kind of like parents and kids). Oh, and just as I imagined you would, you gave me an honest answer, instead of backing it up with bias like most would. Thanks, Seelentau, if I have any more questions, I will look forward to your opinion. [[File: Senju_Symbol.svg|20px]]'''KotoSenju''' ''('''OldUser:'''JaZZBaND)''-[[user talk: Koto Senju|Talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Koto Senju|Contributions]] 15:51, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== [[Soul Removal]]'s new name ==
 
 
Is there any way we can make Absorption Soul Technique sound more...English? Absorbing Soul Technique? General Awesomo 22:40, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
:...what? Do you want a translation of the Japanese name or an English name based on that translation? Those names aren't actually supposed to sound English at all, they're just representing the Japanese word in another language. Furthermore, the same Kanji is translated as "Absorbtion" [[Spiralling Absorption Sphere|here]], that's why I translated it that way. Oh and if you want me to answer you on your talk page, I suggest you put a link to it in your signature. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:53, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
::I was just wondering if 吸 could also be translated as "absorbing" or other variants of the word. So that maybe we can make a better sounding name.
 
 
::Also, I don't see the point of having a discussion being split up by two user talk pages. Why do some users do that? General Awesomo 22:59, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::It could, but as I said, this isn't about good sounding or so. People do that because it's hard to keep track of the discussion. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 23:03, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::I'm just saying if we can make it sound a little better without disrupting the translation, it wouldn't hurt. But I'll respect this decision, and I'll try to get used to this way of discussing. General Awesomo ([[User talk:General Awesomo|talk]]) 23:26, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Translation Edit

When you get a chance, could you translate a quote for me? Its Konan talking to Obito, but I can't remember if its one whole quote or two: but they're in the same chapter. Naruto chapter 509, where Konan calls Naruto the "light" and Obito "darkness". Could you get me the literal English as well as the romaji of both quotes? Take your time, its a personal request for something I'm working on, so no rush. Thanks :) ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 04:14, February 18, 2014 (UTC)

Nawaki and Dan's deaths Edit

Did they die just "in a war" or during 2nd Shinobi World War?--Elveonora (talk) 14:10, February 18, 2014 (UTC)

RequestEdit

Hi. Can you please help me with this topic? In fact, do you know what gender the two buried characters have? Thanks. Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 17:59, February 20, 2014 (UTC)

Just to kill time Edit

I'm wondering what you think happened to Senju Clan. As seen, during the peace treaty there was plenty of them. Also do you think "Tobi" was in fact Obito just going crazy or Spiral Zetsu speaking on him/transformed?--Elveonora (talk) 20:56, February 20, 2014 (UTC)

tracks' name translation Edit

Youtube and such list Naruto Shippuuden OST2's "Unkempt Hair (乱髪, Ranpatsu)" as "Midaregami" and "Red Rose (紅薔薇, Benibara)" as "Beni Soubi" instead. Which are correct, I presume ours? Thanks--Elveonora (talk) 21:24, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

Bump--Elveonora (talk) 13:40, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

Thought so, thanks a lot.--Elveonora (talk) 22:55, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

Chapter 666 Edit

Hi senpai, seems you found the raw version of this chapter. But what about this page? Can you summarize it what's written here? And I think it confirmed that the Spiral Zetsu's name is already Guruguru. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 13:53, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

We're looking forward.. And have a safe drive and be at home peacefullyShakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 14:17, February 28, 2014 (UTC)
Hi Mr. Seelentau, I was wondering if you have any more information regarding that page? It looks pretty cool and informative, and I was wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing what else it says? -KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 04:03, March 2, 2014 (UTC)
No problem senpai. Take your time and don't rush it and make it easy. You're the best here. ^_^ —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 22:36, March 6, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, you are one of the most valuable assets to the wiki! Thanks for all you do for us!--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 22:38, March 6, 2014 (UTC)

Chapter 667 Edit

Seems Kishi put another special page this week. It's about Madara and Izuna. So, don't rush this time as well, senpai. ^_^ —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 13:24, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Just to know, It's been noticed that Kishi begin to release those special pages on every week starting from the last week just like One Piece special pages. He calls it Fourth Shinobi World War Notebook (第四次忍界大戦備忘録, Daiyonji Ninkai Taisen Bibōroku). So we're expecting for him to release this notebook pages every week, hopefully... —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 15:03, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, not too sure you haven't already but when you get the time, could you translate what Kabuto said about healing Sasuke and Tobirama's (assumed) involvement.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 13:31, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your outstanding work and no problem at all, senpai. Just translate the most important things when any other pages will be released in the future. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 15:32, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

Names Edit

Thanks for the quick response! Sadly it didn't help me with the names I'm looking at. I'll try and give you the names here (the are on the wiki, but then you won't have to look for it).

(Ame - アメ, Ame). (Dango - ダンゴ, Dango). (Choco - チョゴ, Chogo) -- One of these is a girl

(Ayato - アヤト, Ayato). (Hajiki - ハジキ, Hajiki). (Mari - マリ, Mari) -- One of these is a girl

(Kiri - キリ, Kiri). (Sō - ソウ, Sō). (Shimo - シモ, Shimo) -- One of these is a girl

--Kasan94 (talk) 14:59, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much! --Kasan94 (talk) 21:23, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Translation request Edit

Hi senpai, I want to you to translate this line for me:

カカシに助けられダンゾウ裏切るが命を狙われることに

It's about a short summary of March 20's anime episode posted in 2ch anime threads. Also it claims that the fillers will continue on April. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 04:38, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, somehow I got it... Thanks so much senpai. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 12:24, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Another request please Edit

Senpai, could you check my talkpage again? And also, I wonder about the credits list in the latest episode. If possible, could you check it for me especially that Root's member?? Thanks so much... —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 21:47, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

Due to personal problems I won't be that active in the upcoming weeks. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.

I'm not blind Edit

I'm well aware that real life occupies you otherwise at the present (when doesn't it tho? xD perhaps when we are asleep) but once you find some time and interest (be it a week from now or two, I'm not hurrying you nor am I in a hurry) then I would like to know your opinion on how the special Jugo Clan bodies actually work. The bodily fluids are responsible for Senninka, but is it the fluids/enzyme themselves what actually make the bodies absorb natural energy? Because originally, I had them separated but Omni merged the two. I assume it's a separate thing from the fluids within the special bodies what absorbs natural energy.--Elveonora (talk) 19:24, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

"since the PC is my top priority" you should be ashamed... like seriously. Well, who am i kidding myself? ;D But quite often I would best just smash my laptop and throw it outta window. The constant latency issues and disconnects are just unbearable. Like this man doesn't get angered easily, but enough is enough. And wow, good luck with relocation. For special bodies, yeah, I wanted to know tho if you think the fluids which allow transformation do also absorb natural energy or not. Because if the latter, we might have two kekkei genkai going on. Do you see them as separate or one thing?--Elveonora (talk) 23:22, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

A little help my man. You might have noticed my topic at Kabuto's talkpage. The dialogue and context clearly state twice in the chapter/episode that Kabuto's form is a result of Senninka. This is further evidenced by Kabuto's appearance now while healing Sasuke, as he is in Sage Mode/Senninka, he regained not just the horns but everything. Currently it's assumed Kabuto's snake appearance by the time of the war is a result of Orochimaru's cells, which is contradicted. How to make sense of it?--Elveonora (talk) 14:30, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by that. Do you disagree with me or the article as is? Also not sure what you are referring to with that. If to this, then I don't disagree more or less with that explanation of yours. I'm not arguing semantics anymore. What I'm talking about is that according to that chapter, Kabuto's snake form is due to Senninka/Sage Mode rather than Orochimaru's cells as the article currently claims.--Elveonora (talk) 22:09, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Only under the (in my opinion quite clearly false) impression that this form is a later stage of this ignoring the fact that his arm and face do not even look the same between the two, not to mention what he said. He stated that if it were to take over completely, he would die and he is obviously alive. As you could see in the chapter, when Suigetsu asked what's with Kabuto and Jugo's bodies, he started talking about Senninka. Later in the same chapter Orochimaru undoing Senninka removed Kabuto's snake features. Are we finally on the same page? ^_--Elveonora (talk) 22:22, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Well, I'm not Kishimoto, just pointing out what was stated and shown in the chapter. But Oro-takeover obviously didn't happen, that's as clear as day, because he would have died had it happened and wouldn't be Kabuto but Orochimaru 2. Just because he appeared during the war with a similar form, it was simply assumed by the fanbase that it did happen and he ended up like that as a result. And that's the thing, he isn't always looking like that. After Orochimaru undid Senninka, Kabuto turned normal. He is now healing Sasuke in Senninka/Sage Mode hence he has snake features again ^_ In short, Kabuto using Senjutsu = snake features, Kabuto not using Senjutsu = no snake features--Elveonora (talk) 22:52, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Maito Dai Edit

Senpai, sorry for the disturbance. But is it better to wait for Viz's release of this chapter on Monday to see how they will romanize his name? —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 20:32, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

You're right. Because Might Guy's name came from Viz's guidebooks as stated from his trivia section. So, at least we'll wait to Monday to see how Viz will romanize his name. I asked OmegaRasengan for this favor and let's see... —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 21:12, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
Wakatteru, so we won't be redirecting his name to any other name till the new databook's release. Thanks for your response, senpai... —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 21:21, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Bot work Edit

Sure. But there are probably more things that need editing like for example pages like Baku (ANBU), Bird-Masked ANBU Member, etc.. Also the word needs to be changed in the infobox.~UltimateSupreme 15:56, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'm on it.--~UltimateSupreme 15:05, March 20, 2014 (UTC)

Today's episode Edit

It's more than awesome, I really loved every scene of it... But I'm just wondering about Tenzō's jūin is still active during all that time. I don't recall that Yamato in the recent days talks so much about the Root, so this episode could cover that part I think, couldn't it? —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 12:17, March 20, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, me as well. It's getting better and better... —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 12:24, March 20, 2014 (UTC)

That definitely wasn't Shisui's Sharingan I suppose. Then why was it loosing sight? Also not sure how to feel about this episode. Yamato is/was quite feminine I would say, like come on... what happened to the whole "Roots have no emotions" ??? He definitely sucked as one. I still don't consider it canon, it requires a leap of faith and I'm an atheist. I mean, I could definitely see Yamato having been a Root as canon in Kishi's head, I just don't like the stuff surrounding it made by Pierrot like his interactions with Kakashi, smoke people, experiment reject substory that makes it even more confusing (so is he Tenzo? ._.) and so on --Elveonora (talk) 12:29, March 20, 2014 (UTC)

He isn't Tenzō and he has emotions because he wasn't adopted as a baby, but as a child and learned to have emotions while sitting in Orochimaru's tank. The stuff surrounding Yamato's background isn't that relevant, hm? I mean, who cares if he at some point met some smoke people, that ain't gonna change anything about his timeline. And since the whole stuff fits, I'll incorporate it. ^_^ Seelentau 愛 12:34, March 20, 2014 (UTC)

Fukai? Edit

In the episode with Fukai, did it say that Fukai's Father, Uncle and predecesors were jinchuriki or did it only mention his uncle and father. The answer is needed for a small debate Thank You. Munchvtec (talk) 15:47, March 21, 2014 (UTC)

Here is the line, senpai... —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 15:50, March 21, 2014 (UTC)

Okay Thank You. Munchvtec (talk) 15:50, March 21, 2014 (UTC)

Unnecessary Snapping Edit

My apologizes for snapping at you (I think it was mostly you) this weekend. Weird week.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 12:43, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

just thought it might be thought worthy Edit

I believe that Kishi has made So6p's brother to explain Ginkaku and Kinkaku. They were suspected to be of direct descent from So6p, but for that, they would either have to be Senju, Uzumaki or Uchiha, none of which they appeared to be. Meaning the brother was made to serve as ancestry for the two.--Elveonora (talk) 11:49, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Indras Dōjutsu.svg Edit

You refers to "put together" both Dojutsu (background of the Mangekyo Sharingan and form of the Indra's Dojutsu)?

Sasukeuzumaki (Mi discusión) 13:32, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

The icon is ready. This is the icon: http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140327140208/pruebasburijji/es/images/2/24/Saimingan.svg. Do you like? --Sasukeuzumaki (Mi discusión) 14:09, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
What is the link of your wiki? --Sasukeuzumaki (Mi discusión) 14:29, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

why is it Edit

That as of lately, the chapters have a page state "chapter end" only for there to be one extra page after that?--Elveonora (talk) 13:21, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke's Tsukuyomi Edit

Oh no, so you too? ... T_T why "nah" ?--Elveonora (talk) 12:16, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

  • Plenty of things have been deducted through context.
  • Plenty of things weren't spoken, only shown. According to this logic, we should dismiss a character's usage of a technique if he/she doesn't spell out its name before casting it. So a Rasengan used without Naruto yelling "Rasengan!!!" first doesn't count as one, I get it? We are safe when it comes to him tho, he is dumb enough to do it each time.
  • So suddenly a passage from a databook is old, yet it isn't old when it comes to the whole Kakashi-Obito timeline, gud.
  • Not sure if I get this.
  • Good question, but since Sasuke managed to break Itachi out of it with just Genjutsu: Sharingan (meaning it was possible and enough), that means Itachi wasted a Tsukuyomi for nothing. We can try to assume an unspoken context to it, like it having been Kishi's way of telling us that Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi, but it would be an assumption.
  • Gyuki broke him out of it?--Elveonora (talk) 15:42, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

As much as I don't want to have this discussion again, I kindly ask that this matter be brought to the article's talk page. Having the matter discussed in specific user talk pages where few others would check is essentially robbing others the chance to participate. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:08, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Mythology Edit

The Asura are originally from Hinduism, as are several other elements of Buddhist cosmology (Buddhism originated in India). The concept of Chakra also comes from Hinduism. The various Japanese spellings all essentially refer to the same thing: アスラ (Asura) is a direct transliteration of the actual Sanskrit word, while 阿修羅 (Ashura, Asura) and 修羅 (Shura) are derived from Chinese translations of the Sanskrit, which would have migrated from China to Japan through Buddhism. The same is true for Indra, インドラ (Indora) is a transliteration of the Sanskrit while 因陀羅 (Indora, Indara) is a translation of the Chinese (Indra is known as Śakra in Buddhism). In both cases, Kishimoto probably took the most common readings (Ashura and Indora).

As for why he used "Asura and Indra," which aren't particularily dichotomous (Asura referring to a mythological species while Indra refers to a specific deity), as opposed to say "Asura and Deva" or "Agni and Indra", it's hard to say. Part of it is probably that the Asura and Deva have distinct personalities (Asura = passionate / Deva = emotionless), while Indra has certain imagery that can be connected to Sasuke and Susano'o (wielding a lightning bolt, a god of storms and war). The two names also have three syllables and end with ra, making them sound related. At least, that's my assumption. FF-Suzaku (talk) 09:06, April 2, 2014 (UTC)

Borrowing topic. Not sure if it's of any worth, but the Hyuga name has to do with Sun, while Kaguya the first known Byakugan user was related to the Moon. Something to make of it?--Elveonora (talk) 13:19, April 2, 2014 (UTC)

Parentage Edit

Unless what I'm reading is, it says that Asura and Indra's mother is Kaguya Ootsutsuki. Which would mean, that their grandmother is also their mother. I just...I just really need to be sure if that is correct.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 14:11, April 2, 2014 (UTC)

Gods obviously love incest. Also in case of nobles, it's done to maintain "pure blood" so that could have been the case as well--Elveonora (talk) 20:11, April 2, 2014 (UTC)

Icon Edit

The new icon doesn't appears because it's necessary refresh the browser, as Ctrl+F5.

Also, the icon can be late, but it appears correctly early.

Sasukeuzumaki (Mi discusión) 19:52, April 2, 2014 (UTC)

671 raw Edit

Is it already out? MP and MS translations differ considerably, I'm not sure which of them has added words and meaning that don't belong there, so could you then please translate the relevant passages? Thanks. Especially I'm curious about the incest. If Kaguya is mother of Ashura and Indra, then wouldn't that make Hagoromo's sons his half-brothers as well? 0_o--Elveonora (talk) 11:36, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Everything doesn't fit, but ok ^_ But yes, they are more accurate than usual.--Elveonora (talk) 12:01, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Contradicts manga? ^_ The whole Obito-Kakashi thing. I'm telling you the manga is more accurate than the old databooks and Pierrot based it on the old information. But whatever, let us enjoy the stuff flawed or not, everything will come to light, eventually.--Elveonora (talk) 12:16, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Wouldn't the manga be corrected in re-releases if it had such big errors in it? And even if they talk to Kishi, you imply that we should trust the man who contradicts himself.--Elveonora (talk) 12:30, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

If the author says so, it's canon, as weird as it may be. We should document it and once and IF it changes in a re-release, it shall be updated--Elveonora (talk) 17:09, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Jut wondering, do the latest chapters actually state that Naruto and Sasuke are literal reincarnations or not? Because panda uses transmigrants or something like that--Elveonora (talk) 18:22, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you a lot. But they are unlikely to be Ashura and Indra in person, right? The dialogue says only their chakras continue to get passed down. Because I can't see how could there be Madara&Sasuke and Hashirama&Naruto all at once--Elveonora (talk) 21:02, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you pal. I won't bother you any longer for today ^_ --Elveonora (talk) 21:28, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, could you translate what the Sage says when Naruto and Sasuke gives him their hands: does he ask for their dominant hand or just a hand? --Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 11:05, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

infinite tsukuyomi portrayal Edit

What I in fact was referring to how in the movie, Naruto and Sakura literary got transported over to another dimension, rather than just being asleep, that's contradictory.--Elveonora (talk) 12:44, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Do you recall the movie at all? If not then I suggest you to rewatch it.--Elveonora (talk) 13:11, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

The movie version trapped Naruto and Sakura there physically to another dimension, also made it possible for AU Sakura to enter real world. While the manga adaptation simply puts people's minds into said space.--Elveonora (talk) 14:25, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Kishimoto wrote the movie. Yet the technique presented in it differs from what's been stated and shown in manga. That I suppose makes the former non-canon?--Elveonora (talk) 14:31, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Not the events in the movie themselves, but things like techniques and so on, since it was made by Kishi.--Elveonora (talk) 22:32, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for eavesdropping, but I don't think there's any indication that Naruto and Sakura got physically transported. It was all an illusion -- they likely remained stationary while the events occured (in fact, I believe only a short while actually passes while they're trapped in it). The Sakura that was displaced from the Genjutsu World was likewise an illusion; she ultimately faded from existence (and given that the episode was created to promote the movie, is probably even less canon than the movie itself). Besides, the technique Obito used in the film was the Limited Tsukuyomi, not the Infinite Tsukuyomi. FF-Suzaku (talk) 09:39, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Then I suggest you to rewatch it again. After Naruto and Sakura left the alternate world, Naruto still had the Yondaime cloak on which just disappeared into nothing like 5 seconds later and both of them noticed it. There's plenty of evidence they were actually there. They weren't just seeing things, since when do two people experience the same hallucination at once? Also if the world weren't real, then the whole plot of the movie would have been pointless. And Limited Tsukuyomi was stated to be a trial version of Infinite Tsukuyomi, same technique, just incomplete.--Elveonora (talk) 10:38, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Sand Siblings ougi Edit

In the latest UNSR trailer, you can hear the name of their combo ultimate. From the sound alone, I think it's 灼熱砂縛柩/"Shakunetsu Sabaku Kyū". Is it incorrect for me to translate the shakunetsu part as "scorching hot" instead of "scorching heat"? In this case, in English at least, it seems more appropriate. I know tangorin also translates it as "red hot", which sort of gives leeway to translate 熱 as hot, but that is already the more literal translation of 赤熱/sekinetsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:16, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Why the em dash instead of the interpunct though? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:35, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
Ok then. In other UNSR news, the official site has been updated. There's not much, but there is one page with info. Anything interesting there worth noting? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:11, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

haha xD Edit

It seems Shaduw and Shadow use this website for dating purposes... and then Spey wonders why some are against further socializing, we don't need this.--Elveonora (talk) 14:14, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Kaguya = an extraterrestrial ? ._. Edit

Does the dialogue suggests so when Naruto asks about this?--Elveonora (talk) 16:11, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

night moth Edit

Why exactly did some translate it like that?--Elveonora (talk) 10:09, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

According to google translate (lol) ガ stands for moth (Ga) so perhaps there's some double meaning to it?--Elveonora (talk) 10:25, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Even tho I'm sure your translation is correct and it's meant to be Night Guy, contextually, night and moth together do make more sense, since moths are nocturnal I believe? Also moths are perceived as symbols of death and the technique requires Gate of Death.--Elveonora (talk) 10:31, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Senju clan of the forest Edit

Is there a passage anywhere in those chapters where Obito told Sasuke the story about Konoha's founding, or in the third databook, perhaps in a character entry, that specifically says that the reason the Senju were called "of the forest" was due to Hashirama's Wood Release? I do recall some databook entry saying that their name being "Senju" was due to them having great skill in all areas of jutsu instead of focusing on just one. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:04, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

About Wood Release/of the forest or Senju/due to mastery in many skill areas? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:05, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
Which one is the first you heard now? The "of the forest" being attributed to Hashirama's Wood Release, or the name Senju being a reference of skills in all areas of jutsu? I'm more certain of the Senju one, which appeared either in the third databook or in a later artbook. I recall reading that in a scanlation. The "of the forest" is the one I need a bit more info on. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:23, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

Character number source Edit

Could you check if I translated this properly? Many thanks. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:00, April 10, 2014 (UTC)


About Enton Edit

While the discussion about Kagutsuchi kind of overwhelmed the point of the topic, it seemed that we were generally in agreement about how the black flames should be defined. I think we should continue to push that, and take the Kagutsuchi stuff to its own topic... Hopefully folks will start answering my questions then. :p Thought I should ask you since you're the one who first brought it up. I still agree that Enton's definition here should be changed. —「SaiSTMangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal) 14:57, April 11, 2014 (UTC)

673 Edit

Either Kishimoto is going for maximum crazy, or someone went through a lot of trouble to make a fake spoiler for 673. It looks like the first three pages are out, per that thing that Jump has been doing for a couple weeks now. And they look insane. Are they good quality enough to translate? Anything other than the obvious stuff? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:23, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

They're real. Bleach's came out too. Looks like Naruto really is a pseudo-jinchūriki if that's what I think it is. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 01:34, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
I thought that too. Keeping all that out of the articles until the entire chapter comes out might be problematic. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:38, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
We might want to put up a message sitewide, or something. That technique kanji is Sage Technique: Lava Release Rasenshuriken (仙術・溶遁螺旋手裏剣, Senjutsu: Yōton Rasenshuriken) for sure, but I don't know if we want to hold off on adding that content until the entire chapter comes out. Like you said, it's going to be hard. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 01:49, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

Yay, Lava Shuriken !!! Epicz--Elveonora (talk) 14:30, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

Saw them, Foxy-sama. It's Sage Art: Lava Release Rasenshuriken (仙法・熔遁螺旋手裏剣, Senpō: Yōton Rasenshuriken). I predict that Naruto will use all sorts of the bijū skills techniques like Matatabi's fire release and Isobu's water release and so on. Can't wait :) —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 14:37, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
... Sand control too? ._.--Elveonora (talk) 14:45, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

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Not sure what exactly Madara's talking about on the second page... Seelentau 愛 15:21, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

So Naruto uses a KKG now, rait?--Elveonora (talk) 15:23, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
Per definition, yes. Seelentau 愛 15:27, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
This scenario gives me quite a headache. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:33, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
How come? Seelentau 愛 16:13, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
I saw the raws. Does this mean that Naruto now can use a kekkei tōta (wind+fire+earth nature) or it's just a Lava Release Rasenshuriken?--JOA20 (talk) 16:18, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
No. That literally translated to "Sage Art: Lava Release Rasenshuriken". Why would he have a kekkei tōta? Also @Seel, I think he's referring to the fact that this chapter will pretty much confirm Naruto as a pseudo-jinchūriki of eight of the nine tailed beasts as well as Naruto demonstrating a kekkei genkai. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 16:22, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
I don't think there's Fūton involved here. It's the same as a Wind Release Rasenshuriken, just with Lava Release. By the way, he's using the fire-radical kanji here. Seelentau 愛 16:26, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
Then what about the shuriken-like protusions? Anyway, you're right, Naruto only talks about Lava Release here.--JOA20 (talk) 16:28, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
What about them? They're made of lava, too. I also think that it's justified to write down the information given by these spoilers, since technically, even if we'd only add them after the whole chapter is available, it would still be earlier than the official release of the chapter. Furthermore, these information come from an official source, so it's legit to add them in my opinion. Seelentau 愛 16:35, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

I don't really think the pseudo is the issue here, on the contrary, I think that this chapter really cements that quite unambiguously. I still disagree with Son's Lava Release being considered kkg, and by extension Roshi and now Naruto's though. Kkg stems from genetics, which I still don't think it's the case for Son. I know we already have Shinju with Sharingan, which makes it even worse for me, because in one case, it feels right to me, and the other it feels wrong. I still hope that if another databook is published, Son's Lava Release techniques are not considered kkg. Regarding the new Rasenshuriken, I think it does contain Wind Release. The blades cut through the stone, that feels like wind chakra to me. I'd list the technique as Wind Release and Lava Release. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:39, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, yes. Naruto asked Son for Chakra, not for a KKG. I don't think his LR is KKG, too. So to sum this up, Naruto has no LR KKG, no FR/ER natures and his new Rasen Shuriken is LR and we write in the trivia that it's unclear if he's still using WR, too. Seelentau 愛 16:44, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
If we're going to officially add this content, I suggest we create the page first, then take the discussion of the technique's elements there.--NaviiGator (A.K.A.KotoSenju)Talk Page-My Contributions 16:45, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone mind me creating the page now?--JOA20 (talk) 16:51, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
Or, better yet, create a thread about it before making a page ;)
@JOA: Pages shouldn't be created from a closed discussion on a user's talkpage... :/ --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 16:52, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
Not sure if sarcasm or change of mind Seel. You're the one who made the topic proposing that we list Son's LR as kkg for it, that also got Roshi listed as having LR as a kkg. As far as I'm concerned, no Son-based LR would be listed as kkg, they'd stay as tailed beast skill only. They'd still have to have ER and FR added though. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:06, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
I did? Oh well, change of mind, I guess, since the German wiki (=me) doesn't list them as KKG, either. But I wouldn't add ER/FR to Roshi's and Naruto's article, since they (or at least Naruto) got pre-mixed lava chakra, he didn't need to apply Seishitsuhenka. Seelentau 愛 17:09, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

How else would they have LR? Advanced natures don't exist on their own. Should Danzō have ER and WR removed because he gets Wood Release from the arm already? Besides, we've Son breathing just fire. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:17, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

If we decide to add the technique, I'm going to update Naruto's page to reflect his status as a pseudo. We were iffy before, but this puts it beyond a shadow of a doubt. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 17:18, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
No, they don't. But as I said, Naruto asks Son for some chakra, not the ability to create fire and earth chakra. Son kneaded his chakra and gave it the lava nature, then Naruto used it in his technique. Seelentau 愛 17:22, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
In Conclusion.
1) Naruto is a Pesudo-Jinchuriki of the One, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six, Seven, and Eight-Tails, and the jinchuriki of the Nine-Tails.
2) Son Goku's Lava Release is not a kekkei genkai for it's jinchuriki (No real opinion on this one)
3) Lava Release: Rasenshuriken is a thing.
4) Madara is boned.
Sound good?--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 17:20, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
Sounds fantastic. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 17:21, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

Are we really sure Naruto is a pseudo-jinchuriki though? Minato and Kushina appeared in his mind when he had their chakra, the tailed beasts are just doing the same thing now, aren't they? He didn't acquire the chakra through special means like the Kin-Gin Brothers, just through a regular chakra transfer, and there's nothing saying his tailed beast chakra can't run out (as in, his body isn't known to be producing more of it). If he's a pseudo-jinchuriki, then wouldn't the entire alliance all be Kurama's pseudo-jinchuriki?--BeyondRed (talk) 17:41, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

There's a difference in having a beast's chakra and having its consciousness. Seelentau 愛 17:43, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, he's talking to them and they're responding by giving him their chakra. That's way different than just having their chakra inside of him. Even Kinkaku and Ginkaku couldn't do that. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 17:44, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
My point was that Minato and Kushina also appeared in his mind and that Kushina also used her techniques within it. This is really no different, but he isn't considered a pseudo-jinchuriki of his parents (whatever that would even mean). He does technically fit the requirements for pseudo though. Sora in the anime seems to have had a finite amount of Nine-Tails chakra, and we weren't explicitly told Kinkaku and Ginkaku's bodies were capable of producing more Nine-Tails chakra without eating more chakra meat (as likely as it seems).--BeyondRed (talk) 17:48, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
Of course he's not a Jinchuriki of his parents. Was the term "pesudo-jinchuriki" ever defined by the manga or is it a term you guys came up with? Seelentau 愛 17:51, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

This discussion should really be happening on the forum thread, it's becoming hard to follow this here on the talkpage ;) --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 17:55, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

topic I'd really like your opinion on Edit

Regarding what's up with Tailed Beast Rasengan. An actual technique or just an impossible concept?--Elveonora (talk) 19:23, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

But then it isn't Rasengan but a Tailed Beast Ball--Elveonora (talk) 20:03, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

Please, be that kind and explain to Foxie the difference. His ears are obviously deaf, perhaps he should learn to read from lips. I hope you actually understand me.--Elveonora (talk) 21:50, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

I was talking about the topic of listing Naruto as Yoton user--Elveonora (talk) 22:32, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

That's the sad part, we are tearing each other apart instead of cooperating. But trust me, I want to, but that's hard with certain arrogant and ignorant individuals. Perhaps I'm one too :P Oh well ._.--Elveonora (talk) 22:51, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

I may or may not agree (not that my opinion is even relevant around here) but I'm still curious how you are gonna handle that over at German wiki and your reasoning behind it.--Elveonora (talk) 23:00, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

That's my man, finally someone who gets that Naruto doesn't have Katon and Doton natures and ability to merge them. Now only they have to get this. Listing him as a user is a fallacy of the highest caliber--Elveonora (talk) 23:21, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

chakra receivers same as truth balls? Edit

If you think about it, Madara made them from his will (yin) and Hashirama Plant Clone's body (Yang), not to mention Hashirama was also a Sage.--Elveonora (talk) 15:29, April 16, 2014 (UTC)

And the fact they seem to negate chakra and ninjutsu. --Taynio (talk) 15:31, April 16, 2014 (UTC)

When the raws come.. Edit

Can you translate everything about Kaguya's third eye ?Rinnegan/Sharingan, and Sasuke's supposed Rinnegan please?? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:37, April 16, 2014 (UTC)

Hidan Edit

Senpai, is it true that Deidara joined Akatsuki before Hidan and that makes Hidan was the newest member besides Tobi? If yes, could you remind me which chapter that stated this event? Thanks so much... —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 22:23, April 17, 2014 (UTC)

I can take this one. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 07:29, April 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Anime specials and such Edit

Sure senpai, just two question please. Do you want a list for just fillers or all the arcs together? And do I have to include the specials from the canon episodes as well? Firstly check this and say your opinion about it. :) —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 11:12, April 18, 2014 (UTC)

It's quite long list (just for Shippūden), but it may help you a lot:

  1. Naruto Shippūden Special: Start-up At Last! (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル ついに始動!) / Episodes #1 - #2.
  2. Naruto Shippūden Special: Art is an Explosion! (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 芸術は爆発だ!) / Episodes #6 - #7.
  3. Naruto Shippūden Special: Kakashi Team Mobilized! (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル カカシ班出動!) / Episodes #8 - #9.
  4. Naruto Shippūden Special: Summer Formation! (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 夏の陣!) / Episodes #22 - #23.
  5. Naruto Shippūden Special: It's Blown Away to Another Dimension! (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 異空間まで吹っ飛ばせ!) / Episodes #29 - #30.
  6. Naruto Shippūden Special: Emergency, The Newborn Kakashi Team Departure for the Front! (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル いざ、新生カカシ班出陣!) / Episodes #36 - #37.
  7. Naruto Shippūden Special: Time of the Battle, Coming! (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 戦いの刻、来たる!) / Episodes #40 - #41.
  8. Naruto Shippūden Special: Sasuke Appears! (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル サスケ登場!) / Episodes #51 - #52.
  9. Naruto Shippūden Special: Sprout Konoha! (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 木ノ葉芽吹く!) / Episodes #53 - #54.
  10. Naruto Shippūden Special: Claw Rip the Darkness! Blowing Gale (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 闇を裂く鉤爪!烈風吹き抜ける) / Episodes #57 - #58.
  11. Naruto Shippūden Special: Konoha, Complete Closure! On High Alert (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 木ノ葉、完全閉鎖!厳戒態勢) / Episodes #64 - #65.
  12. Naruto Shippūden Special: Red Chakra! Runaway and Destruction (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 赤きチャクラ!破壊と暴走) / Episodes #68 - #69.
  13. Naruto Shippūden Special: Big Clash! Akatsuki vs. Asuma Team Battle (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 大激突!暁VSアスマ班 決戦) / Episodes #76 - #77.
  14. Naruto Shippūden Special: Asuma Dies! Sarrow and Despair (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル アスマ死す!絶望と慟哭) / Episodes #78 - #79.
  15. Naruto Shippūden Special: The Will of Fire Entrusted, New Jutsu's Explostion (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 託された火の意志、新術炸裂!) / Episodes #86 - #87.
  16. Naruto Shippūden Special: Three-Tails Emergance Arc, Naruto vs. Guren! (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 三尾出現の章・ナルトVS紅蓮!) / Episodes #101 - #102.
  17. Naruto Shippūden Special: Three-Tails Emergance Arc, Battle of Sealing! (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 三尾出現の章・封印大作戦!) / Episodes #103 - #104.
  18. Naruto Shippūden Special: Kakashi Chronicles ~Boys' Life on the Battlefield~ (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル カカシ外伝 〜戦場のボーイズライフ〜) / Episodes #119 - #120.
  19. Naruto Shippūden Special: Tales of a Gutsy Ninja ~Jiraiya Ninja Scroll~ (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル ド根性忍伝 〜自来也忍法帖〜) / Episodes #127 - #128.
  20. Naruto Shippūden Special: Amegakure Infiltrated! Jiraiya's Determination (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜雨隠れ潜入!自来也の決意〜) / Episodes #129 - #130.
  21. Naruto Shippūden Special: Vicissitudes's End! Reunion of Brothers (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜流転の果て!兄弟の再会〜) / Episodes #135 - #136.
  22. Naruto Shippūden Special: Naruto's Tears! The Vow of Comeback (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜ナルトの涙!再起の誓い〜) / Episodes #153 - #154.
  23. Naruto Shippūden Special: Big Adventure! The Quest for the Fourth Hokage's Legacy (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜大冒険!四代目の遺産を探せ〜) / Episodes #170 - #171.
  24. Naruto Shippūden Special: Record of the Gutsy Ninja Master and Student (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜ド根性師弟忍風録〜) / Episodes #186 - #187.
  25. Naruto Shippūden Special: Time to Start the Move! The Five Kage Summit Convened (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜動き出す時代!緊急招集五影会談〜) / Episodes #197 - #198.
  26. Naruto Shippūden Special: Into the Fourth Great Shinobi War! Five Kage's Decision (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜第四次忍界大戦へ!五影の決断〜) / Episodes #221 - #222.
  27. Naruto Shippūden Special: Father's Decision and Mother's Tears ~Naruto's Birth~ (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 父の決断 母の涙 〜ナルト出生の秘密〜) / Episodes #248 - #249.
  28. Naruto Shippūden Special: Time for the Oath!! Ino-Shika-Chō's Farewell (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 誓いの時 〜さらば猪鹿蝶!!〜) / Episodes #273 - #274.
  29. Naruto Shippūden Special: The Two People's Secret Story, Tsunade and Raikage's Bet (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 秘話・綱手 & 雷影 〜二人が賭けたもの〜) / Episodes #286 - #287.
  30. Naruto Shippūden Special: The Will of Unchanging, The Heart Moves (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜変わらぬ意志・心動く時〜) / Episodes #327 - #328.
  31. Naruto Shippūden Special: Akatsuki Starts its Moves, Bridage to Youth (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 暁始動〜青春への懸け橋〜) / Episodes #347 - #348.
  32. Naruto Shippūden Special: The Boy Called Tenzō (NARUTO疾風伝スペシャル 〜テンゾウと呼ばれた少年〜) / Episodes #353 - #354.

Anything else, senpai? —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 14:57, April 18, 2014 (UTC)

I just took the Japanese names from Shippūden's Japanese Wikipedia page and I translated them. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 15:17, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
Here. Just take a look for the footnotes, and you're warmly welcome :) —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 15:46, April 18, 2014 (UTC)

ignored topics Edit

For some reason, people are too busy arguing about forum and chat rules and if Lava Release Shuriken is Lava Release or not (0_o) instead of contributing to the important topics... I know your stance at this point is: "I don't care what you guys do" but are you really okay with Naruto being listed as a jinchuuriki of all 9 Tailed Beasts and so on, not to mention the logic of this wiki is beyond me. Speculation makes its way into the articles super fast (just check Naruto's abilities section) and actual stuff that's obvious doesn't get listed until we are told twice, because autism (like Hagoromo being Senjutsu user)--Elveonora (talk) 13:16, April 19, 2014 (UTC)

It's good, I'd like you state your opinion on the whole which natures Naruto has topic. And are you sure that Naruto is host of all Biju? Because we were never shown them entering his body, in fact we were multiple times told that he only has their chakra. Naruto originally pulled out (before Madara resealed them) the 2-7 Tailed Beasts from Obito using their chakra. What you suggest is that the Tailed Beasts pulled themselves out, existing twice or something.--Elveonora (talk) 13:40, April 19, 2014 (UTC)

Dōjutsu info clarification Edit

Hey. Could you translate what Hagoromoro says about Kaguya's dōjutsu whether she had the Sharingan or wielded its power. I think the wording might help us to set a way to deal with her/Sasuke's dōjutsu. Also if recent raws are out, does Madara refer to Sasuke's dōjutsu as the Rinnegan explicitly? --Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 23:54, April 19, 2014 (UTC)

Naruto 674 Edit

Seems the entire RAW came out earlier this week, confirmed by Baidu (Bleach and One Piece did the same). Linkage for translations is here. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 04:23, April 21, 2014 (UTC)

Is it just me or have the tomoe from Sasuke's Rinnegan eventually vanished?--Elveonora (talk) 13:27, April 21, 2014 (UTC)

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