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== Outer Path Discussions ==
 
   
When you get the chance, could you give your input in these two discussions relating to the [[Outer Path]]?:
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== Verlassen des Wikis ==
* [[Talk:Demonic Statue of the Outer Path#Outer_Path]]
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Bitte lass es nicht dazu kommen! Ich verstehe, warum du sauer bist, aber in manchen Fällen muss man einfach über die Ignoranz und Sturheit der anderen hinwegsehen, bis eine glasklare Antwort vom Mangaka kommt (am besten in Form eines neuen Databooks, wann immer das auch sein mag). Aus genau diesem Grund nehme ich an den meisten Diskussionen nicht teil, weil ich Angst hab, mir das Wiki dadurch verderben zu lassen.
* [[Talk:Outer Path#Abilities]]
 
Thanks in advance. =) [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 17:15, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== 588 ==
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Auch wenn wir bis jetzt nicht so viel miteinander zu tun hatten bitte ich dich, die Sache mit dem Aufhören nochmal zu überdenken. Immerhin bist du meiner Meinung nach eine der wenigen Personen hier mit einem gesunden Menschenverstand, ganz zu schweigen von deinen Japanisch-Kenntnissen. Dein Verlassen wäre ein Verlust für das Wiki, ganz sicher! [[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 23:03, September 7, 2014 (UTC)
   
When you get your hands in a raw, could you translate what Madara says in the bottom right panel, right after being hit by the Dust Release? Mangastream and Mangareader translations are wildly different. If reader is right, there's a potential weakness of Susanoo to be listed, being inside it makes the user slower. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:44, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
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== Re: I'd like you to ==
:For the same reason, i.e. conflictions in the translations, could you also please translate what both Mei and Ōnoki say as Madara is being sealed [http://raw.narutoverse.org/Raw/588/narutoverse16/ here]? [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 17:05, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
::I think you're putting way too much confidence in my translation skills. I am honoured by that, but I doubt my translations are going to be as good as Suki-senpai's. Nevertheless, I'll give it a try today and tomorrow. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:45, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Madara: 「スサノオを出していた分塵遁の吸収が間に合わなかっただ···」 ''"Susanoo o dashiteita Bun Jinton no Kyūshū ga maniowa nakatta da..."''.
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Request denied. You're upset that's understandable. You want to leave, that is understandable. But I'm not going to encourage this kind of response by banning you and keeping you from coming back if you calm down and decide you want to come back.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:53, September 8, 2014 (UTC)
:I think it's something like ''"The parts that put out Susanoo couldn't use the Jinton absorption in time..."''. I think he meant ''Bunshin'', but there's a Kanji missing. At least that's what it looks like to me.
 
   
Mei: 「砂 がイヤなら術の吸収を止めればいいのよ ま···そしたら雷水龍弾でしびれちゃって動けないけど」 ''"Suna ga iya nara Jutsu no Kyūshū o tomereba iinoyo. Ma...soshitara Raisuiryūdan de shibirechatte ugokenai kedo"''
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Your a great addition to this wiki and deep down i don't think anyone wants you to leave. The wiki needs you. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 17:38, September 8, 2014 (UTC)
:Should be something like ''"It's okay if the sand isn't enough to stop the Jutsu absorption. But his movements will be numbed by the Lightning Water Dragon Bullet then"''
 
   
Ōnoki: 「そのスキにワシが塵遁をかます! そうならば封印する時間は充分じゃぜ」 ''"Sono suki ni washi ga Jinton o kamasu! naraba fūinsuru Jikan wa jūbun jaze"''
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Seelentau-san, what's going on?! I was held at school, so I couldn't come on the wiki until now, but from what I understand, you're leaving? Why?! The wiki needs, and I'll be really sad if you leave. :(--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 02:26, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
:Should be something like ''"I will force Jinton in that gap! If that's the case there's enough time to seal him"''
 
   
There we go. As I said, don't take them for perfect, they're just my own translations. They're as nonvalid as everyone elses. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:10, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
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== Apology & Question ==
   
:Thanks Seelentau, your help is much appreciated and it clarified/resolved exactly what I was after. [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 16:31, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
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So, first, I would like you to know that, though I disagreed venomously with your analysis of the Jiton (and still do), I do not harbor any ill will towards you. I'm glad you decided to stick around because, truth be told, you were right about one thing: you are a pretty unbias reader of the series. Doesn't mean I agree with some of your explanations, but I'd be wrong not to say as much. I never wanted to drive you from the wiki because, as many others have expressed, you are very much needed here and it would truly be a loss for the wiki without you around. If you still dislike me, well, I can't help that, but I do want to extend to you an sincere apology for letting my frustration with everything get the best of me. I miss the days when we, as a site, could sit down and discuss conflicting ideas without feeling the burning desire to tear each other's throats out and I know you feel the same.
   
Does anyone know if SSS (3x "s" Omni - ShounenSukiSensei of course) plan on coming back ? : ( --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:17, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
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That being said, I have an honest question for you in regards to the Gudōdama. We're both aware of how contentious that debate is, and the fact of the matter is, we're banging our heads into a wall over some fairly simple questions. It is my belief that Kishimoto finally gave us the natures for the Gudōdama (regardless of the user; the technique itself) with Black Zetsu's remark. I realize that some disagree with me on this point, and you might too, which is the point of my question:
:I don't know about the others, but since I don't have any way to contact Suki-sensei, I don't know about his status. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:02, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Would you mind writing out and translating Itachi's genjutsu command to Kabuto? [[Special:Contributions/64.134.191.42|64.134.191.42]] ([[User talk:64.134.191.42|talk]]) 03:17, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
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''After examining the RAW of Black Zetsu's text, and knowing what previous characters have said in regards to the Truth-Seeking Balls, do you think that ''solid'' manga evidence suggests that each user's Gudōdama is of a different and unique composition? Or do you think that the technique, like any other technique, is composed of the exact same elements?''
:What exactly do you mean? The hand signs? They're correct in mangapanda's version. It seems like Kabuto was lying to Tobi about them. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 05:05, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Sorry, I meant this one: [http://raw.narutoverse.org/Raw/588/narutoverse03/]. [[Special:Contributions/76.173.61.174|76.173.61.174]] ([[User talk:76.173.61.174|talk]]) 00:23, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
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That question seems to be the only one keeping us from finally putting this whole TSB debate behind us once and for all. Let me be clear, I don't care either way. I have my beliefs, but if the manga says something, we obviously need to document it. If its still too ambiguous, we wait, but recently it was decided that every user had the same natures except Naruto, whom the consensus said should have every nature but Yin-Yang, due to a few user's absolute refusal to believe he can use them. I just want the issue behind us. So, regarding that question, what is your thoughts? (And for any third party reading this, please don't butt in. Its rude to barge into other's conversations.) ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 23:06, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
   
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: I suppose the only logical thing to do then is to wait, and, as you said, record what we know. Madara did say something about being surprised that Naruto wasn't erased when he blocked his Gudōdama, and thought that it might have something to do with him being heavily wounded (having not noticed his senjutsu enhancement yet), so I assume that means his can too. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 23:40, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
Hello Seelentau, does "Tokoyomi" (常世見) mean "looking into eternity" or "looking into the land of the dead"? -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- 02:47, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Thanks :) -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- 17:10, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== [[Forbidden Words]] Kanji ==
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:: I believe the evidence is there for Jiton. Using context clues and making an assumption are two different things. With the TSB, I understand the convolution, but there really is nothing like that for Gaara, Shukaku, and the other Jiton users. If you go back and read all of related chapters (even some of Gaara's words in his fight with Kimimaro) its quite apparent that's what Kishi intended. TheUltimate3 and the others have a valid point when they say Kishimoto won't tell us everything. Like any author, he's going to assume that we have the necessary material to put two and two together to get four. In areas where its murky (I believe that 3 out of 4 users of TSB having consistently all the same thing isn't murky, but I can see why you and others do), we can just do our best and record only what has been flat out told to us, but in areas where its pretty much obvious, we need to be readers, no Kishi's editors, and do the math. That's just my opinion though. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 00:33, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
I copy/pasted the Kanji for the latest episode from Wikipedia, but I think it's wrong. Can you confirm? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 10:54, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Ya, when I saw the episode, I saw the NG in the subtitles. Thanks! :) --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:07, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
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::: Its pretty simple: does the manga support it, or is the evidence too flimsy to hold up? If someone can show me page, after page, after page, after chapter, after interview, after quote, etc, ect, that something is a certain way in the manga and it all holds up: add it. There's nothing wrong with that. Jiton is one example of that. When Gaara's father displayed the ''exact same rings'' as his son in his eyes, Kishi was basically handing us that information on a platter, regardless of whether we think so or not. If weren't a contributor to this wiki, and was just reading this manga to myself, that would've been an "''Aha!''" moment for me, because I'm the type of reader who will connect information. That's part of reading a story like this and its enjoyable when the author wants you to notice something rather than slap you in the face with information all the time. Sometimes, they want you to find it yourself, and I have fun looking for it. But if someone tells me that Sasuke has Hashirama's cells, for example (this was an actual argument), just because Kabuto said he used his studies of Hashirama's cells to heal him, and that's the ''only evidence they give me'', I'm going to wave them off and call crap on it.
   
== Little Finger/Toe Absolute Attack ==
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::: That's why I, personally, wasn't involving Science in the Jiton debate (yes, I know others were). Kishi says he sucks at Science. We don't know how much he sucks (he obviously thought that Sakura's method of keeping Naruto alive was legit, for example; it wasn't. Punched through a rib and a lung scientifically), so its an assumption to say he'd even know what diamagnetism is. To him, it literally could've been as simple as "Hey, I want [insert Jiton user here] to magnetize this!" and that's it. But the manga itself held up, in my view, consistently. So to answer your question in one concerted effort: Where do we draw the line? If the manga supports it, and we can give enough references to back it up, add it. If it doesn't hold up or the references are too flimsy to use? Wait. That's how I see it. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 01:00, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
Could you please take a look at [[Talk:Little Finger Absolute Attack|this discussion]]? Given where Guy actually attacks, it seems more appropriate to name the [[Little Finger Absolute Attack|technique]] "''Little Toe Absolute Attack''", as long as the Japanese allows for that of course. [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 00:06, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
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:::: That's where consensus comes in. Its one thing if one or two people are seeing the same thing. If three, four, five people are all seeing the same thing based on the same evidence, you've got one of two things going on: mass hysteria, which is unlikely, or something legitimate is being presented. I mean, the consensus, prior to your analysis on Jiton, was literally unanimous. Even in the recent debates, I only saw Elveonora and Munch (can never say his full username) that still saw things similarly to you (Elve had his own ideas, but that's getting more and more common lately). And what's more, we were all seeing the same evidence. The same consistency. The same patterns and the same context clues. In those cases, consensus is our best option. If there isn't one, then obviously the evidence is too flimsy. You'll see me doing the same thing. Where I'm on the fence with something, or want to believe something, but the current evidence just doesn't hold up, so I'll ask to wait on it. I have no problem waiting when the information isn't there. Its when we literally have the answer ''right in front of us'' and we're screaming at each other over the stupidest technicalities that I start having issues. As for "grasping for straws", I shouldn't have jumped on that bandwagon, and I apologize. I let my frustration get the better of me. But there are cases of that. The debate on whether or not Naruto could use certain elements through his connection to the Bijū, for example. We had ''one user'' who just refused to let it go through and was even reverting the edits once the decision was made out of nothing more than his own stubbornness to give in. ''That'' is grasping for straws and when that happens, we obviously need to deal with the user in question, because that's a person problem, not a wiki issue. So, yes, it was wrong of me to accuse you of that. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 01:28, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
== 593 ==
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::::: If the manga supports it? Absolutely. Kishi may retcon or correct facts later, but you can't tell a group of users who have reference after reference from the manga supporting their argument that they are wrong. Their basis is the manga. No different from anything else we add on this wiki. I mean, if we can't use the manga to prove our points, and get stuff done around here, we might as well lock the entire wiki until the series ends and the last databook comes out. We have to do something, Seel. Its not like we're saying, okay, add whatever you want to the wiki! We're saying, "If you have credible, consistent (direct confirmation works too, obviously) and the consensus sees it, then we add it. If you don't, we wait." That's not a bad system. It literally requires manga evidence, which is what you want in the first place, correct? Like I said, Kishimoto isn't going to tell us everything on a neon billboard. No author anywhere does that, so we shouldn't expect him too either. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 02:09, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
schaust du bitte nochmal [[Talk:Orochimaru's Revival|hier]] bei stuff rein und gibst deine meinung. [[User:Johnny182|<font color="#FF7F00">'''Johnny/ジョニー'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Johnny182|<font color="#00008B">'''(talk)'''</font>]]</sup>
 
   
== Binding Genjutsu ==
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== Sorry to butt in... ==
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But I had to tell you this. I overlooked your messaging with TTF, and you asked if Madara ever negated something with his TSBs. He did actually, in chapter 665, page 12 when he cut off Minato's left arm with his TSB. Minato's left arm never grew back, just like Obito did with Minato's right arm. So yeah, Madara's TSB also has Yin-Yang Release. Again, didn't mean to butt in and be rude, that's why I created a separate headline on your page, but I was just trying to help. :) Glad you haven't left the wiki, that would have been a blow to Narutopedia. --[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 00:22, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
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:Of course they do, Madara is a known YYR user since he had told Obito he would teach him just that--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 09:25, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
Could you please give your opinion on this translation: {{translation|'''Binding Genjutsu'''|金縛りの幻術|kanashibari no genjutsu}}? It's a term Orochimaru uses to describe Itachi's [[Demonic Illusion: Shackling Stakes Technique]]. [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 22:45, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
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== SPS&Rinnegan ==
:Thanks once again, I actually asked because [http://tangorin.com/#general/%E9%87%91%E7%B8%9B%E3%82%8A tangorin] had it as either ''binding'' or ''temporary paralysis'', so it was fortunate that I asked you because I had no idea there was already such a similarly named technique. [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 23:09, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
==Gaara's name==
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Not entirely:
Hey there Seelentau, can Gaara's name translate into "I only love myself. I'm a demon."? "Ga 我" (meaning I or me), "A 愛" (more commonly "Ai" meaning love), and "Ra 羅" (meaning a demon). -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- 03:03, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
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* both Naruto and Sasuke received power from Hagoromo which allowed them to awake SPST and Rinnegan respectively (I originally thought it was because of Hashirama stuff alone), so having 9TBs chakras by itself wouldn't give him SPST without Hagoromo's touch--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:33, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
:Thanks :) -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- 11:03, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Chapter 596 ==
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I mean latest chapter made it clear that Hagoromo has to do with their SPST and Rinnegan (so the tattoos weren't the only things he gave them) but Hagoromo didn't give Naruto TB chakra, they themselves did and Obito did the remaining 2. So whatever Hagoromo gave Naruto is the "missing piece" to the puzzle.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:18, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
So, I recently added the kanji and rōmaji to this chapter, and moved from "jutsu" to "technique". Considering that the main point of this chapter was Kakashi's determination that Tobi's warping and intangibility are the same technique, would it be more accurate to translate this chapter's title as "A Single Technique", as in "he uses a single technique"? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:06, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
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Talk about coincidental timing 0_0 we messaged each other at the same time :P
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And yes, latest chapter makes it seem Hagoromo has to do with their powers, but you may figure out otherwise once you get your hands on the raw or so. And even though Madara didn't meet Hagoromo, he was TT jinch. TT is 9TB + x, the 'x' being what allows Six Paths Sage Technique--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:21, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
== UNS3 character videos ==
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Hagoromo said that giving power only to one of them resulted in Ashura and Indra rivalry, giving power to both Naruto and Sasuke didn't fix it tho. So if the only power Hagoromo gave to Naruto and Sasuke were the tattoos, then either Ashura or Indra must have had one or both tattoos as well. Unless he was talking about different thing than the tattoos--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:27, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
A few videos were [http://www.saiyanisland.com/2012/08/darui-mifune-hanzo-gameplay-naruto-storm-3/ released], showing footage of new characters in action. Hanzō and Mifune's techniques can be seen. I think I managed to get Hanzō's, which appears to be {{translation|"Exploding Circle"|爆円陣|Bakuenjin}}, but I can't crack down Mifune's. I already created an article on Hanzō's technique, but could you confirm it and see if you can get Mifune's? Thanks.{{unsigned|Omnibender|03:04, August 15, 2012 (UTC)}}
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Yes, Indra was already born with strong chakra and Ashura's eventually matured/bloomed as time went on. But birth inheritance isn't gift, unless Hagoromo created Ashura weak and Indra strong with Creation of All Things. So I suppose what the original gift refers to is Ashura's "battle avatar" Hagoromo likely gave Ashura Six Paths Senjutsu. Indra wasn't given anything, thus had only Sharingan. This time around, Hagoromo not only has given Ashura's incarnate Six Paths Senjutsu, but Rinnegan to Indra's incarnate as well. This way it makes sense--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:42, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
== 598 ==
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But Ashura eventually became equal to Indra. Hagoromo says giving power to one caused rivalry, so that doesn't seem like it refers to one of them having been born stronger. Hagoromo had no input about how their genes would turn out. Also I believe in an older chapter this is referenced and Hagoromo says he gave power to Ashura, so giving power to Ashura made him stronger than Indra thus caused trouble and as such can't refer to their birth inheritance, since Ashura was the weaker one originally. But you are the translator, so you may know better--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:52, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
I got 598's kanji and rōmaji. Could you see the translation? I've added them to the chapter article. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:02, August 24, 2012 (UTC)
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So Hagoromo gave Naruto and Sasuke successorship to Ninshu? That's it, Hagoromo made a clear parallel between giving power to Naruto and Sasuke and having given power just to Ashura--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:12, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
==?==
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Yes, I think in the latest chapter. But you may want to take this to relevant talkpage for everyone to chime in.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:18, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
Hi Seelentau, I need your help; Does (の王) mean "Kings" and does (境界線) mean "Set me free"? -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- <small>Sep 1, 2012 <sub>@</sub> 05:32 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
 
:Thanks ^_^ -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- <small>Sep 1, 2012 <sub>@</sub> 09:07 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
 
   
==Pictures==
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== Six Paths for Kaguya ==
Hey Seelentau, I need your help again ^_^ heh. Do you know what the Kanji in [http://theprojectk.tumblr.com/post/30598471124/100days-official-site-k-0067-download-for-a this] [http://theprojectk.tumblr.com/post/30656339171/100days-official-site-k-0069-download-for-a this] [http://theprojectk.tumblr.com/post/30598452079/100days-official-site-k-0066-download-for-a this] and [http://theprojectk.tumblr.com/post/29724537890/100days-official-site-k-0052-late this] mean? -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- <small>Sep 2, 2012 <sub>@</sub> 10:01 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
 
:Thanks a ton :). -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- <small>Sep 2, 2012 <sub>@</sub> 10:28 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
 
   
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I thought it was agreed that Kaguya has no involvement to the Six Paths or any related techniques.—[[User:Steveo920|Steveo920]] [[User talk:Steveo920|(Talk)]] 10:05, September 11, 2014
   
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I believe it was during the discussion of the Truth-Seeking Balls.—[[User:Steveo920|Steveo920]] [[User talk:Steveo920|(Talk)]] 10:11 September 11, 2014
   
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== stuff ==
   
== Translation Please ==
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Rikudou Rod etc. were also used I believe, but by Naruto and he likes to give weird nicknames.
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In my honest opinion "six paths" simply means Hagoromo, thus six path's means Hagoromo's.
   
Hello Seelentau, could you give me the literal translation of 饿乐廻廊 please? It's a technique from a manga i like that's databook recently came out, and no one has been able to properly translate it yet so i figured i'd come to you seeing as to how you are one of the main translators here. Thank you.[[Special:Contributions/71.71.58.70|71.71.58.70]] ([[User talk:71.71.58.70|talk]]) 07:01, September 12, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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* Hagoromo's Senjutsu (his Senjutsu)
:Sorry, I don't speak Chinese, so I'm not able to translate 饿乐. 廻廊, however, means ''kairō'', which is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kair%C5%8D this]. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:15, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
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* Hagoromo's Chakra (his chakra)
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* Hagoromo's Power (his power, unspecified)
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* Hagoromo's Yin Power/Yang Power (his power, specified)
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* Hagoromo's Chibaku Tensei (specialized version of the technique)
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* Hagoromo's Technique (his personal technique with the Rinnegan)--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:31, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
I'm sorry i didn't know that it was chinese, which is weird considering that it's a japanese manga. Thank you for trying though.[[Special:Contributions/71.71.58.70|71.71.58.70]] ([[User talk:71.71.58.70|talk]]) 15:24, September 12, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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Yes. But within the context of what we know, all six paths stuff = hagoromo stuff. There's no way to figure why he is six paths and what it is tho. We may need a databook for that. And I think your list should be complete, I don't recall any other six paths good job--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:06, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
:Where did you get that name from? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:30, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
From a raw scan of a page from the book on a site that releases newly trans/scanlated parts of the book.[[Special:Contributions/71.71.58.70|71.71.58.70]] ([[User talk:71.71.58.70|talk]]) 16:41, September 12, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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You did, but honestly, half the terms most likely refer to the same thing. Also in case you would, then be so nice and give some input to these:
:eh, could you please show me the frame/panel where the Kanji are shown? I'm sure you just made a mistake finding the correct Kanji, since they originate in the Chinese language and look similar often. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:59, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
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* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Nature_Transformation#Something
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* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Naruto_Uzumaki#So_just_as_I_was_saying
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* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Naruto_Uzumaki#kekkei_mora
   
== Uchihagaeshi ==
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Thanks in advance. The first, Six Paths Yin/Yang Powers were never called Yin and Yang nature releases, were they? The second, I believe you also know that Naruto is just a pseudo jinchuuriki of 1-8 TBs and not a full one. The third, is Naruto even an user of kekkei mora? He asks the Tailed Beasts for the natures, so he doesn't know how to use them himself. Therefore I think it's nonsensical that he has the ability to merge all natures that he can't even use, not to mention it has a genetic vibe to it, therefore in my opinion only Kaguya and Hagoromo should be considered users, not her jinchuuriki--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:17, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
<s>Now that we have the confirmed kanji/kana, would you mind giving your input on the translation of {{translation|[[Return of the Uchiha|Uchihagaeshi]]|うちは返し|}}? While "''Return of the Uchiha''" seems acceptable, I feel something simpler like "''Uchiha Reversal''" (which has connotations to certain martial arts moves) would be more fitting, though input from someone with actual knowledge of Japanese would be much appreciated. [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 17:01, September 14, 2012 (UTC)</s>
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That's understandable, but man, If I had to count how many times I wanted to almost leave the wiki ... :P But what would this place be without me, right? :D Anyway:
:Neve rmind, I found that "返し" is also used in {{translation|[[Earth Release: Earth Shore Return]]|土遁・土陸返し|Doton: Doroku Gaeshi}}, so in order to remain consistent to that format, the technique should be named "''Uchiha Return''". [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 17:27, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
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* I guess you are right. Although that's the reason why I'm wondering, are there things such as Six Paths Yin/Yang Release? :O
::I was about to answer, but the article got moved around I got confused by it. Would've chosen something like ''retribution'', but nevermind. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:30, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
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And funny you mention that. The term pseudo worked just fine, until certain people changed it as they deemed fit with "logic" that "when chakra talks, they are full jinchuuriki" or so, like wtf. But I don't think you should be quiet about this, once the raw comes out and it implies that the Tailed Beasts aren't truly within Naruto, then you should let people know.
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And I know. Fact is, our beliefs are to be put in line soon, very soon... as soon as Naruto's TSB clashes with Sasuke or his technique ;) I admit that there's a chance we are wrong, but in my opinion more things imply his aren't all natures. So if we turn out to be wrong, then I will personally apologize to everyone I disagreed with and leave with a tail in between my legs--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:51, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Jinchuriki Six Paths ==
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== Your opinions on stuff ==
   
When they're first shown with Sharingan and Rinnegan, what exactly does Obito say regarding them having the eyes? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:01, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
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I just wanted to say that I completely agree and support all the stuff you say. i agree with your opinion's on magnet release too. Just wanted to let you know that your not the only user that doesnt agree with all the bull shit that gets added. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 00:10, September 12, 2014 (UTC)
:Last pages of chapter 544. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:43, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
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:Butting in :P the thing is, it shouldn't be about an agreement to begin with. If millions of people decide to agree about something that's just plain wrong, it won't become right anywhere but in their own heads. And even if they are right, they still are making an assumption (even if true) thus are jumping the gun, before it's actually known to be true.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:04, September 12, 2014 (UTC)
::About a week ago, on the 4th this month, someone changed that the eyes had been implanted into the hosts, using this as an edit summary: "bad trans, implantation was never mentioned, also, it's impossible to change ET physical state". I don't recall if the splash text appears in the volume version, but is there any mention of implantation in what Obito says? Is his word actually "customised" or something for that effect? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:22, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Black Hunting ==
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== Help ==
   
In Darui's [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLE3cBMouj0 gameplay promo] at 0:55, he performs Storm Release: Black Hunting. Unfortunately, this video doesn't have the subtitles, like the English demo did, so we don't have kanji on it, but the sound is clear enough to get his pronunciation. Can you get the rōmaji? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:22, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
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How do i make articles that don't have a template like for example an article on a book not the volume? [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 18:13, September 13, 2014 (UTC)
:Kanji are probably involved, but since the only videos with subtitles available so far are in English, no kanji. We'll probably get them soon or later. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:25, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== A Translation please ==
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no offense taken and i was gonna create articles for the three anime profiles books. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 18:16, September 13, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hello Sempai...i was wondering if you could translate a part of chapter 606 in page 15, the part where Madara talks about his chakra rods and how Obito should use it for the "Rikudo no Jutsu"...was he talking to the Six Paths of Pain or something else? Thank you in advance. [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 18:30, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
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== Six Paths ==
   
== Ameyuri ==
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In the chapter that Naruto seals Madara's shadows in, he refers to the black rods as the "Sage's Rods". I don't know if that means anything or what the RAW's actually say, but I thought I'd bring that to your attention. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 01:58, September 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
In this week's episode, subs used male pronouns to refer to Ameyuri. Could you check the episode to see if the Japanese actually meant Ameyuri to be a male or if all that was used was gender-neutral pronouns? I think we might have a Kurama case again. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 03:44, October 19, 2012 (UTC)
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== Re: Names ==
   
== Re: Problem with articles ==
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I know how and where to look. Currently from [http://senki.kusakage.com/tuika.htm here] and [http://giocox.jp/naruto-r/ here]. I expect both to get more names as the days go by. The links on the first I can only read right when I get Google's cached version, I just look for a video game technique I know they have. Second link will have more movesets as the days go by as well. I got most of the Storm 2, Generations and Storm 3 from their Storm 3 site over at the enormous list I have at [[Forum:Video game jutsu overhaul/sub]]. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:38, September 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
I have no idea of what's happening. Usual trick is cleaning the cache. Does this happen to you in other wikis, or other browsers. If it's something specific to your account, I'd suspect of a custom js script, but I have no idea if you have any. Your best shot as far as I can see is to [[Special:Contact|contact Wikia]] and report a bug. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:25, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
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== not very serious, just bored ==
   
== Monga's technique ==
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Yet, I've been thinking... most Root remembers were orphans, right? Iruka is an orphan.
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The guy in the [http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5287/5287266a17eba8f2e49e4bf5ad5f7f8a279e478.jpg background] looks just like Iruka and I presume that that's [[Hyo]] under the mask. So both orphans, same scar, same hairstyle and hair color, same eye color... same person? :O Too bad it doesn't work since Hyo is 21 years old, rait? T_T--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:26, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
Could you give the name to his technique (latest episode, 7:55)--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 21:33, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
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== Outer Path Fact-Checking ==
:Thanks.--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 22:14, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Considering the spears are thin and long, is there any change the the "dake" in the name is he kanji for bamboo instead? Japanese Wikipedia added it as 土遁・土石筍. Could also be 土遁・土石竹. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:32, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Yup, but I thought they wouldn't choose that name... well then, it's 土遁・土石筍, of course ^^ [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 05:07, October 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::What would be the translation then? Earth Release: Earth and Stone Bamboo Shoot? Earth Release: Earth Stalagmite? I see that 石筍 is the word for stalagmite, but the pronunciation in the technique isn't "sekijun". That's something that'll probably be added to a trivia section though. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:09, October 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::''Earth Release: Earth and Stone Bamboo Shoot'' and a Trivia which explains the pun would be the best. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:15, October 28, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
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Hey, I was wondering if you could translate a few things related to the Outer Path abilities when you get a chance.
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* Chapter 565, pages 6 and 10 - Do these seem to attribute the connected vision to Gedō or just controlling corpses with chakra? (The article currently states both are derived from Gedō).
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* Chapter 569, page 2 - Does Obito actually say he'll drag Four-Tails and Naruto inside of himself? This isn't documented anywhere on the wiki, as far as I can tell.
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* Same chapter, page 10 - What does Obito say about his and Nagato's binding power? Is this sufficient evidence that both the chakra receivers and chains are Gedō powers? We currently list the latter as one but not the former, using this page as evidence. (And yes, I'm fully aware that Madara created receivers without the Rinnegan in one instance).
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Thanks.--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 23:49, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
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Sorry for butting in, but I'm also interested in the Outer Path's connection to the "Gedo Mazo". I remember that you already explained this somewhere, but I can't find the topic.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 09:49, September 17, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Another translation please ==
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== Translation requests ==
   
Hello again, i'm very sorry to bother you, and i'm hoping to god that this is not chinese, but can you give me the romanization and translation of this ウルざくろ. Again i hope to god this isn't chinese (it so hard for me to tell), but i found some raw scans and i have no idea how a japanese manga could have chinese raw scans. Anyway thank you for your time.[[Special:Contributions/98.26.246.74|98.26.246.74]] ([[User talk:98.26.246.74|talk]]) 02:38, October 31, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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Can you translate these two pages for me??
:ウルざくろ ''Uru Zakuro''. It seems to be a name of a character or so, because ''Uru'' has no meaning, while ざくろ could refer to the [[Wikipedia:Pomegranate|Pomegranate]]. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:48, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Thank you very much. Um kinda last minute but there was another word-ish that i went to several sources and they all gave me diferent answers, and considering that your a notable translator i wonder if you could straighten this out. The word is 模倣, at first i got Mōzō and later it was called Utsutsu, and the transalation they gave me was imitation/mimicry/copy, what do you get for it? Again this the last time, and i really don't mean to bother you.[[Special:Contributions/98.26.246.74|98.26.246.74]] ([[User talk:98.26.246.74|talk]]) 19:04, November 1, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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http://blog.pierrot.jp/wp-content/uploads/blog.pierrot.jp/2014/05/%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BF%E3%83%81%EF%BC%88%E6%9C%A8%E3%83%8E%E8%91%89%E6%99%82%E4%BB%A3%EF%BC%89%E3%81%AE%E3%82%B3%E3%83%94%E3%83%BC.jpg
:No problem at all. 模倣 is read as ''mohō'' and means ''imitation'' or ''copying''. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:08, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Thank you so much.[[Special:Contributions/98.26.246.74|98.26.246.74]] ([[User talk:98.26.246.74|talk]]) 19:15, November 1, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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http://blog.pierrot.jp/wp-content/uploads/blog.pierrot.jp/2014/06/%E3%82%B5%E3%82%B9%E3%82%B1%E3%81%AE%E4%B8%A1%E8%A6%AA.jpg [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 01:56, September 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
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I just wanted to know everything that was said on those pages is all. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 21:32, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
I swear to God last time, since i can't find any other translators as good as you. I finally found the last of the raws, the first one is 餓樂廻廊 (the romanji that i got was and create me if i'm wrong, Kamawariro and have no idea what it means). The other was 融合 which i think is Yūgō and the translations of it i got were fusion/merge and another one said it meant polymerization. The last was 生体融合, which i got was Seitai yūgō, and translations of it i found were Living body fusion/ Biological fusion. I really am sorry to keep bothering you, but i was suppossed to get these back to someone.[[Special:Contributions/98.26.246.74|98.26.246.74]] ([[User talk:98.26.246.74|talk]]) 19:01, November 4, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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== Sasuke and Kakashi Character Scans Translations? ==
   
*餓樂廻廊 ''Garaku Kairō'' or ''Gakaku Kairō'' or ''Gagō Kairō'' literally means ''Starve Music Corridor''
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Hello Seelentau-Senpai! How are you today? When you find the time, can you please translate the new scan of Sasuke and Kakashi's character design for the new movie? I've heard some rumors that it says Sasuke has turned good and Kakashi is Hokage, and also that starting in October, we will get new teasers of the movie with every new Naruto Shippuden episode. Can you please confirm or deny these rumors, as well as let me (us) know any other information the scan provides? Thanks a bunch- have a nice day! --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 23:43, September 19, 2014 (UTC)
*生体 ''Seitai'' means ''organism''
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:Does it say that Sasuke is now on the "good side"? What do the little messages next to both Sasuke and Kakashi say? And do you have any extensive info about what these teasers are? Thanks! --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 19:01, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
*融合 ''Yūgō'' means ''agglutination'' or ''fusion'', as you said
 
[[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:06, November 4, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Thank you very much.[[Special:Contributions/98.26.246.74|98.26.246.74]] ([[User talk:98.26.246.74|talk]]) 20:12, November 4, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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== Obito and Hagoromo's chakra ==
   
== Some video game translations ==
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Kakashi while being possessed by Obito phantom said Six Paths chakra stuff. So unless Six Paths chakra doesn't equal Hagoromo's chakra, then Obito and by extension Kakashi had Hagoromo's chakra.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:15, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
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:He does? In that case take back what I said then... but what is Six Paths Power again? :D Sasuke had Six Paths Yin Power, Naruto had Six Paths Yang Power, but what kind of power did Obito have and more importantly from where? :O--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:19, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
My making a couple educated lookups, I managed finding a few stuff on a video game. I recently added the kanji for [[Jibakugan]], though I have no idea of how to give a literal translation to that. [http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/psp_naruto_accel3/game04.html Here] in the game's official page, there are the names of most of the antagonists, which we currently don't have as kanji, as well as their name. I'm not sure, but it seems they're supposed to be some sort of non-Konoha leaf ANBU? And [http://www.uwants.com/viewthread.php?tid=9232085 here], the site is in Chinese, but it has two screenshots with technique names in Japanese. We already have articles for both of those techniques. There's another technique from that game, which someone had added romaji, and based on that and the English name, I added kanji, the [[Forbidden Technique: Mud Golem]]. In looking up the other two techniques, could you see if you managed finding if those kanji I added are actually correct? Many thanks. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:11, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
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== Question ==
:We already have pages for the characters, they're supposed to be: Tsukino (not the name on the page, since that would be a spoiler for the game, I think), Hakui, Dōshin, and Shinga. Other than Tsukino, none of their names we have match the page. We have the wrong kanji for Hakui, and Dōshin and Shinga are like ドシン and シンガ. Just from glancing, I think the first kanji in Hakui's name is the same one used for Haku's name. Shinga's name appears to be written as "True Fang". The kanji for Jibakugan I managed finding, which can be seen on that page, is 自縛眼, though I have no idea how to literally translated 自縛 as something that would give a proper literal English name. Looking up those together, each of them inside quotes in Google should give some article where they're mentioned. The technique I mentioned I added kanji based on the romaji is 禁術・泥人形 Kinjutsu: Doro Ningyō. In the site with the images, we have articles on the fire rat technique and in the sealing technique, but we don't have kanji or romanji, just game English. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:27, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
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Based on [[Talk:Six_Paths_Sage_Technique#Method_of_obtaining|here]], do you believe that the TSB is a tailed beast skill (which requires TB chakra)? Simple yes or no and an explanation will do, thanks. --[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 13:22, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
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:I don't believe the TSB is a tailed beast skill either, because of chapter 690, when Kaguya remember Hagoromo and Hamura sealing her, Hagoromo was clearly using a TSB without having Tailed Beast chakra (due to facing the original Tailed Beast). I'll elaborate further on what I think a TSB is now made of after you give me your opinion on what happened in 690. --[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 13:36, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
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::I think he was using one TSB, instead of multiple. --[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 13:37, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Episodes 286-287 translations ==
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Just pointing out that young Hagoromo with a TSB was shown in chapter 680, was that a pre-jinchuuriki?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:46, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hi Seelentau and how are you? I want to know the literal translations of Nigai's technique (雷鼠激震) and Karai's technique (雷撃) and finally the literal meaning of Nokizaru Troops (軒猿衆). Many thanks ^_^ [[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 19:09, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
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:::Hamura and his staff is a different subject altogether. What I'm getting at is that, like you, I don't think the TSB is a tailed beast skill, but because of Hagoromo. I say the TSB is made of the five natures, Yin-Yang, senjutsu, and the Six Paths Power/chakra. Not tailed beast chakra. For Naruto, I believe the tailed beasts gave him the elements necessary to use the TSB. I also believe that the TT gave Madara the elements necessary to use the TSB as well (with him pulling that lightning technique out of nowhere). But because Hagoromo mastered the five elements, Yin-Yang, and used the TSB without tailed beast chakra when facing the TT shown in 670 and 690, that is where I agree with you on the TSB not being a tailed beast skill. Correct me if I'm wrong on what I think, please. Thank you for your time. --[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 13:48, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
:That was so perfect, and BTW it's called Karai not Kirai. Thanks so much for your co-operation ^_^ —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 20:17, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Sorry for the disturbance, But I want to know the literal meaning of Nokizaru Troops' boss name (Himushi, ヒムシ) —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 20:26, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Would it be better to have Raigeki as "Lightning Strike"? It's a more accurate English term which means the same thing, and we already have a technique with Raigeki in it, Raiga's Lightning Strike Armour (Raigeki no Yoroi). [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:36, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
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My bad for creating debate on your talkpage @Tau, I just wanted to ask a simple question and point out that I agree with your assertion that the TSB isn't a TB skill. Sorry if I needlessly invaded your talkpage. --[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 14:06, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
:mh, use whatever you deem to be more accurate. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 08:06, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
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:But it is a Tailed Beast Skill for Obito and Madara, because Six Paths chakra comes from Kaguya/the Ten-Tails. Hagoromo is an unique case, since he is her son.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:14, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
== 288 Kenjutsu ==
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==TSB==
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Howdy, on the [[Truth-Seeking Ball]] talkpage, a user brought up the question if the name should be plural or not, but nothing came of it. Ten told him to ask you, but since I saw no one asking, I took it upon myself to ask. Could it be plural? [[User:Benknightprime|&#34;Let go your earthly tether.&#34;]] ([[User talk:Benknightprime|talk]]) 21:26, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
So, kanji and rōmaji have already been added, probably from the Japanese Wikipedia article, but are the translations accurate? My looking up gives Kushimaru's as "Longsword Ninja Art: Earth Spider Sewing", and I'm not quite sure of what Jinpachi's is supposed to be. I can only translate "Blastsword Technique", but I can make sense of the rest. I only get explosion, but the last three kanji make it look weird. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:22, November 8, 2012 (UTC)
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== would you please ==
:Maybe it has to do with the movement of the sheet of explosive tags? They sort of made a semi-circle. Maybe that's supposed to look/act like a bridle? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:46, November 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Can you get the combo name Kakashi and Guy called them? Subs called it "Cold Blooded Combo" or something like that. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:30, November 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Sinful Lotus ==
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Upload an official and full version of [https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3s8J2lrb4PoWUjQVf52uudxAwa_RXOfE16teAQ7OvUXrevKsQEA this image]? It comes from one of the chapters' covers of the fight between him and Uchiha brothers.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:08, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
   
I managed to find a video which shows the kanji of the game-only Boil Release, it's in that technique's talk page, but the quality is not that great, though in both the videos I found, you can hear the name of the technique well enough. Could you take a look at it? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:58, November 10, 2012 (UTC)
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Yes, thanks. Do you think it could be used as an image for Jugo Clan's KKG? It shows both the transformation and absorption of natural energy in one.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:17, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
:When fighting her, she usually goes into her awakening when she mishears something Ao says. This technique is used usually the second time she enters in her awakened form. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:21, November 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== 289 techniques ==
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Yes, but there's not a single scene with Jugo which shows natural energy entering his body I believe--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:25, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
   
Could you check on the translations for that episode? I believe most of them to be correct as far as I can check with tangorin, but I can't help to feel that one of Omoi's new kenjutsu, the one without Cloud Style in it, is improperly translated, seeing that it doesn't quite follow the standard of kenjutsu naming. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:57, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
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U sure? 0_o http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/File:Naruto_the_Sage.png looks the same to me--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:29, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
:The "ura" part of it. It was previously translated as "reverse" in his canon kenjutsu. I'm also concerned about the fact the current translation is so similar to Kirigakure's translation. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:04, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
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::Huh, I never noticed there was another kanji, different from the one used in Kirigakure. I always thought that "kasumi" was another reading of that kanji. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:03, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
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== Two questions ==
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Not trying to argue with or revert your decisions, but:
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1. Is it plausible to say ''all'' TSB use the Six Paths Sage Chakra from the SPST? Kaguya was able to use it without the SPST.
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2. Why remove the notice? You never know if an editor who thinks he or she is correcting incorrect info could add wood release there again.
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I know it always seems like there's a debate about the TSB or Six Paths, but I just have questions. That is all. --[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 22:21, September 22, 2014 (UTC)
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== Thanks... ==
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For removing the TB skill from TSB. But may I ask what was your reasoning? I thought it was because of Hagoromo. You say it's about the Six Paths power. Can you please further elaborate on why it isn't related to a TB? Thanks! --[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 11:14, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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So Kaguya copied later users you say...?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:18, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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:No, but it doesn't change that the first confirmed time of use comes from Hagoromo, not Kaguya. And even if she used it earlier, it doesn't prove that it's a TBs. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 11:20, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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::Okay, so let me ask you this: where do you think Six Paths Chakra comes from?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:21, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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:::No idea. If it really comes from the TT, aren't technically all jutsu and everything that uses chakra TB skills? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 11:24, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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::::Windstar made the same point and I guess so? 0_o The thing is, Six Paths Chakra isn't something that people and otherwise in Narutoverse commonly have, or so it would seem. Becoming a TT jinch grants this chakra, that's why it's a TBS to me--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:26, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::I did make that point. @Tau, if you can get by the duo of @Elveo and @Foxie, that'll be impressive. --[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 11:31, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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What defines a Tailed Beast Skill anyway? Was such term ever officially used in the first place?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:33, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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:No, it wasn't. And we don't have prove that becoming the TT's Jinchuriki grants Six Paths Chakra. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 11:40, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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::'''Clarifiacation:''' Tailed Beast Skill was made to separate "Ninjutsu" from "Tailed Beast Ball" which at the time of it's creation wasn't considered an actual jutsu but more of a thing tailed beasts could just do. It is in no way official and there are enough holes in the concept that it could very easily be done away with in full.
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::Carry on with whatever.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:46, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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:::@Ulti, thanks for clarification. So it's basically fanon I guess? 0_0 Maybe we should change some things if that's the case. @Seel, if becoming TT jinch doesn't grant SPC, then where did Obito and Madara get it? ;)--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:47, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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::::No idea. I can just say what the manga says. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 11:53, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Well you do have an idea, they got it from the Ten-Tails obviously :)--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:57, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::Can you provide proof for that, other than "They only got it after becoming TT's Jinchuriki"? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:00, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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But ain't that 'nough proof?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:01, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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:Considering that Naruto, who never was Jinchuriki of the TT, has the orbs, too? No. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:03, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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::But was given chakra from Hagoromo, who not only is Kaguya's son but also was the Ten-Tails' jinchuuriki. If you go backwards, the origin of all chakra is Kaguya--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:11, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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:::He was given chakra from Hagoromo, not from the TT. You're making the Hagoromo-Kaguya-TT connection seem way too easy, man. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:18, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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::::^^^^Again, thanks. You somehow got by @Elveo, but you'll have to find a way to get by @Foxie as well, for this is one of the rare topics @Elveo and him agree on. @Foxie may come at add the TB skill thing there all over again. --[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 19:26, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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And here I thought Hagoromo's chakra came from his mother, but whatever...--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:45, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
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== This is late and may be fruitless but.. ==
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http://i.imgur.com/qE8cj3e.png This is the supposed official spoiler for 693. Can you translate it please?? [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 23:17, September 24, 2014 (UTC)
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Darn.. damn internet trolls. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 01:28, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
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== My theory on how nature releases work ==
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Once you said that you are interested in mechanism behind chakra, so you may be interested in what I think.
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Clearly we both understand what each of the chakra natures is (heated chakra, thin sharp chakra, vibrating chakra, density manipulation chakra, state manipulation chakra) so the question may be: how come then the resulting techniques appear as actual fire, wind, lightning, earth and water? Note: you may disagree, because the explanation has less to do with magic but more with chemistry, but I see it like this:
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* To exhale fire, they do so by kneading Katon Chakra into gases inside of their bodies, exhaling said gases as fire.
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* To make wind, there are multiple ways to do so. For example Temari, she kneads Fuuton Chakra into her fan and with the motion of it, she creates air movement and pressure that is like blades, thus wind. Danzo for another example did it by kneading Fuuton Chakra directly into his breath and then exhaling it.
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* To make lightning, they knead Raiton Chakra into actual electricity in their bodies, notably from brain and nervous system.
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* To spit earth, they knead Doton Chakra into their bodily fluids and other chemicals, spitting it up as a substance. You probably wouldn't want to touch or smell that.
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* To spit water, they knead Suiton Chakra into actual water inside of their bodies. No wonder Suigetsu has to drink so much.
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Most people probably think, that for example Wood Release is actual earth mixed with water, but that would be mud. It is just the chakras mixed together, not substances.
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Do you agree with at least some of these? I hope so ._.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 15:01, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
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So you prefer a much simpler explanation then I guess :P Would heated chakra be a fire? I don't think so, it makes more sense to me that it's the heated chakra igniting bodily gases thus producing fire. And for example Naruto's Rasenshuriken doesn't produce wind like Temari or Danzo's techniques do, that's because he infuses rotating chakra with thin and sharp chakra rather than the air. Also Tobirama can create water out of nowhere as well, rather than just from his body. There are water particles in the air, infusing them with chakra could explain that--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 15:13, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
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I got the idea from Shizune kneading chakra into chemicals inside of her body and exhaling them as poisonous gas, so such a thing indeed is done in Narutoverse.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 09:22, September 27, 2014 (UTC)
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== Naruto Tankobon omitted cover text ==
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Is it possible to still purchase old magazine prints of the chapters that have the text?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 11:21, September 27, 2014 (UTC)
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The chapter cover with Yamato on it which says that Hashirama died 50 years prior to Part II. can you confirm?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 12:06, September 27, 2014 (UTC)
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My memory sucks to simply put it, so I may repeat myself often :P I should train my brain more often I guess. And I see, I would take that statement as him dying 50 years ago. That would fall in with Hashirama's flashback of Tsunade. I'd put his death as 34 bNB rather than 38.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 14:21, September 27, 2014 (UTC)
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I believe Naruto was still 15 when that chapter cover said that, so he died 35 years before Naruto was born right?? [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 01:02, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:Nope. The Cover is for the chapter titled "Sai's Betrayal". • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 01:15, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
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"his cells live on even 50 years later" 50 years later, that clearly means he died 50 years ago. It doesn't specify month or day of course.[[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 01:23, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:Yes, 34 bNB. But for some reason I didn't include it. Can't remember why^^ • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:28, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
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Danzo as a full grown adult is 170cm tall and as studio pierrot shows Danzo was 168cm when Tobirama died that means Danzo grew 2cm after Tobirama's death and males don't grow in height after turning 21 biologically. I think if Kishi is following general biology like he has seemed to be doing this entire time then they were all 20 years old when Tobirama died, it was also said somewhere in one of the books that Hiruzen was hokage when he had his team and we know they were 6 when they became genin.. and the fact that Tsunade had to be at least around a year old to be able to do "gamble".. I think at the very EARLIEST Hashirama died in 37 bNB with Tobirama becoming Hokage immediately after his death and as we saw in naruto and naruto shippuden, A LOT can happen in a short amount of time( part one of Naruto lasted roughly a year from 1/01/13-12/22/13 and look how much shit happened in that time) in this manga. I'm willing to bet Tobirama died in 36 bNB because it was shown that he died during war times against Kumogakures Ginkaku Force, Tobirama was also the kind that would fight back against Kumo even if it was the gold and silver brothers who attacked him and not them... [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 10:45, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:I don't take biology into account here. As for the rest, I know that it's somewhat like you say. As I said, I have no idea why I didn't include it. I think I even did once, but deleted it again. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:53, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
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Well, I guess we can conclude that Hashirama and Tobirama died very close to each other, matter of months.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 11:31, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
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Yeah it makes more sense that way, since Tsunade would be around 1 years, when Hashirama died and my son is smart as hell at 1 year old, I know Tsunade would of been able to be taught to gamble at 1. So this makes it fit so much better [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 11:59, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:If he died 50 years back, that would have made her 4 not 1--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 12:00, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
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I was trying to say maybe 50 years was a generalization of the length of time since his death like how they said 10 years for Kakashi Gaiden even though it was 14 years earlier that it happened in truth, and if indeed Hashirama died in 37 bNB and not 34 bNB, that would mean Tobirama most likely died in 36 bNB. It fits everything pretty much. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 12:37, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
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== Six Paths Question ==
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Sorry to bother you again, but I need some clarification. Can you give me your best explanation of the difference between the Six Paths Chakra and the Six Paths Power (even though you might not know the full extent of the latter)? Also, did Sasuke use the Six Paths Chakra or Power when he used his Chidori to damage Madara? And finally, doesn't the Six Paths Chakra = Indra + Asura? Or is that something else? I honestly think the Six Paths Chakra/Power comes from light-purple Rinnegan. Thanks in advance. --[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 18:03, September 27, 2014 (UTC)
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:Bump. :/ --[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 00:05, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
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::Bumpity-bump. Please answer, I want to know, and after this, I will no longer ask you any questions again. --[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 16:45, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
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== six paths round 2 talk ==
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seel, brutha can U please check the last part of that discussion & tell me Ur opinion...no one seems to give a fuck...thanx --[[User:DARK ZER06|DARK ZER06]] ([[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]) 07:55, September 29, 2014 (UTC)
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== Help 2 ==
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hey buddy...how U doin...need a favor...would U kindly translate "bloodline purification" & "bloodline annihilation" to Japanese 4 me...thanx :] --[[User:DARK ZER06|DARK ZER06]] ([[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]) 19:28, September 30, 2014 (UTC)
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uuuuuuuhh...U alive seel... --[[User:DARK ZER06|DARK ZER06]] ([[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]) 21:35, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
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...hope I haven't crossed any lines... --[[User:DARK ZER06|DARK ZER06]] ([[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]) 22:07, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
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ok...
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: now would U...sry would YOU please translate those two 4...sry FOR me :D
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: besides... I'm not that hard to understand......or am I? --[[User:DARK ZER06|DARK ZER06]] ([[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]) 23:14, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
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::You are a little difficult to understand. Please try to type out full words, okay? We're not texting here, lol. ----[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 23:22, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
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does EVERYONE in this forum have too be so cruel... Y U not appreciate my Rt T_T........
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:hhhhhhhh...ok...I'll try to tighten up my ass & minimize my laziness in writing...so that the green village citizens here can all be happy....happy.........because I'm HAPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ok I'll stop don't get mad... --[[User:DARK ZER06|DARK ZER06]] ([[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]) 23:31, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
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oh :|...haven't thought about it that way...sorry...but at least you could've replied the first time or said so sooner so I could've stopped earlier...& why is my title of Help is changed into Stuff in your reply :D? --[[User:DARK ZER06|DARK ZER06]] ([[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]) 23:36, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
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strange...you consider that way of typing rude but use words like shit & etc :|...
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: anyway...2 tickets?...not sure how I've done that...doesn't matter...
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: are there any other translations for these two that are more suitable than the ones you gave? --[[User:DARK ZER06|DARK ZER06]] ([[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]) 11:54, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
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so could you give the more suitable ones too? --[[User:DARK ZER06|DARK ZER06]] ([[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]) 12:05, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
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suitable in accordance with the manga...but I think the ones U gave are perfect...how about bloodline enrichment? --[[User:DARK ZER06|DARK ZER06]] ([[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]) 12:29, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
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many thanks friend --[[User:DARK ZER06|DARK ZER06]] ([[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]) 12:35, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
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== Chapter 694 Spoilers? ==
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If you have the time, can you please translate the spoiler for chapter 694 here (in the box on the bottom):[http://www.mangabee.com/Naruto/694/3/] Also, if you wouldn't mind, what does the little message about Sasuke's new series say? --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 02:03, October 1, 2014 (UTC)
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== Neji ==
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Does his name ネジ actually mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw or is just the pronunciation the same?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 12:36, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
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Thought so and answered as such on Narutoanswers, but a guy changed it to what Neji's trivia section states here, that it means screw--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 13:07, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
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Yup, I know the very basics ^_ but in that case the trivia should be a little bit more specific as not to confuse people--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 13:38, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
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== re: Dude ==
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Offensive? 0_o I'm my average self today and in a relatively good moon. People can't handle honesty, seriously... being a moderator means cleaning up the threads, those messages and threads that I deleted were pointless. Does that make me an asshole? Yes, but just doing my "job"--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 17:09, October 6, 2014 (UTC)
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== This needs attention ==
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User Kris.gilson.12 has been questioning the content of Kakashi's article and has made edits like [http://naruto.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kakashi_Hatake&diff=936399&oldid=935600 this]. (No, I am not asking that he be blocked) He has made a talkpage topic [[Talk:Kakashi_Hatake#Kakashi.27s_role_in_the_the_search_for_Tsunade_filler.|here]], in an attempt to get attention to what he sees as chronologically inconsistent information. According to him, he has put a similar topic on Kakashi's talkpage and been waiting a month for someone to respond, but with no avail. I've personally told him that I will make sure this topic gets attention (in order to stop him from removing the information). Please go to Kakashi's talkpage and respond to it. He has a point he'd like to make. Thanks for your time. • [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 02:51, October 7, 2014 (UTC)
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== Thank you for the correction... ==
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Thanks for correcting the WSJ schedule on my profile! If you wouldn't mind, up until the end of the series, can you please check the schedule every now and then, and either let me know about the recent changes to the schedule, or just fix it yourself like you did in this scenario? Thanks, and have a great day! --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 00:44, October 8, 2014 (UTC)
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:Also, on a related note, I heard a rumor that they were possibly planning on releasing the WSJ magazines every Saturday now as opposed to Monday- is there any truth to this claim? Specifically, is there any plans to have an early release on the day of the final chapter (November 6 for us)? Thanks!--[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 00:47, October 8, 2014 (UTC)
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::Take it with a grain of salt. I just heard it from someone over on Naruto Answers- Omega64. He knows his stuff, but I will admit (and he has too) that you guys (specifically you and Shakhmoot when he was still around) know more than he does about this type of thing. I will ask him where he heard these rumors and get back to you. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 00:55, October 8, 2014 (UTC)
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:::I asked FF-Suzaku the same question, as I personally believe you two are the ones who know your stuff the most. Ultimately, it doesn't really matter. I assume we will learn later that week whether or not the chapter will be released on Wednesday or Thursday, correct?
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:::Also, I asked Omega where he heard the rumors, and he said it's just basic chat that's been going around. As I said, take it with a grain of salt. If you learn anything new during the final week, '''please''' let me know so I can be better prepared to decide when to take that personal day. Don't be surprised if I ask a lot during that last week for any updates or whatnot. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 02:30, October 8, 2014 (UTC)
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Any talk about the possibility of an early chapter this week? --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 19:46, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
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== new idea ==
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I would like to hear your input on the Appearance section forum thread please. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 17:11, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
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==Deidara's Age==
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Deidara was shown in the beginning and the databook 3 came out stopping at the Itachi Pursuit Arc so Deidara would be 19 but he was 18 in the Kazekage Rescue Arc because his birthday is in March and Shino was in January yet he was 15 when he was shown instead 16 showing that he the half of year didn't reflect him and neither should Deidara. Deidara was 18-19. He approximately turned 19 between the Sai and Sasuke-Hidan and Kakuzu Arc. [[User:Rachin123|Rachin123]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 19:08, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
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:As much as I would like for the wiki to not add hypothetical ages, [[Talk:Narutopedia#Manga or Databook?|the wiki doesn't agree]]. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 19:30, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
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::So the Book of Sho states that Team Guy was 16 in the beginning too right cuz I remember their ages being 17 for a while. We add hypothetical things in this wiki plenty of times. [[User:Rachin123|Rachin123]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 19:31, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
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:::For you to change the age of Deidara back 18-19 or change everything around in the other infoboxes for Team Guy, Team Kurenai and Team Asuma. [[User:Rachin123|Rachin123]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 20:04, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
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So your fine with me changing Deidara's age to 18-19 then? [[User:Rachin123|Rachin123]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 20:10, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
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Let me point this out to you, you can't follow every single thing of the databook, that's one thing and tbh this is a fan wiki its not like Kishi created this wiki. Secondly the Databook 3 came out stopping at the Itachi Pursuit arc so likely more than half a year has past so people like Deidara would 19 around that arc, Tenten 17 too and so on. But we use the databook fine but going by our knowledge as far as we are concerned those were not their ages when they were shown in Shippuden but when the last arc stopped off at for the databook. But if you want disagree and will continue to change the age than someone needs to fix many of the characters ages. Tsunade was 54 around the Itachi Pursuit Arc but in the beginning she was definitely 53 so someone put 53-55 instead of 54-55 which it was before because logically following the story shed be 53-55. I'm not trying to start troubke ai'm just pointing out things. [[User:Rachin123|Rachin123]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 20:23, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
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Exactly so Deidara should be 18-19. [[User:Rachin123|Rachin123]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 20:44, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
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When you say "state" I hope you don't mean if someone say their age in the manga or anime because more than half of the characters age wasn't mentioned. If you mean in the databook all we know is that the databook stopped at the Itachi Pursuit Arc and Deidara was 19 when he died. But by being practical he must have been 18 at the start of Shippuden. The whole ages are gonna be a mess if we go with your way. Like is saod by the time of the Itahci Pursuit about a year would've passed and thus people aged and with the last age he published would be that age of that the last time but not the actual time they were shown in Shippuden. [[User:Rachin123|Rachin123]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 21:06, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
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Seel take a look at the infoboxes of the characters. Most of them have been changed. Team Kurenai and Team Asuma were 16 according to the databooks that would obviously put as their age going off the Itachi Pursuit Arc. But two and half years they'd be 15 which someone changed which is right. That databooks age reflects the time of nearest it stopped that's what I'm trying to tell you that you can't go off the databooks all the time. [[User:Rachin123|Rachin123]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 21:36, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
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:I know that. Naruto was 15 when he arrived in Konoha. Its been two and half years. Sakura is 15 as well so looking at that Tenten would be 16 seeing how they are both in March but the databook states Tenten as 17 going by most recent like the stats. The stats go by most recent abilities up until the point it reached. Databook 3 reaching up to the Itachi Pursuit Arc. The Konoha 11 would all only be 2 years older than they were in Part 1 and between the Hidan and Kakuzu- Itachi Pursuit Arc they'd age a year. By the time of the war about another year has past. Covering Shippuden about 4 years have past from Part 1 and about 2 years from part 2. I'm getting tired of trying to get you to understand. Deidara was 18 from the start, up until his death with him being 19. [[User:Rachin123|Rachin123]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 22:07, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
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::Oh I'm stating what I say pretty clear, it's you who just doesn't understand. I don't have a problem in particular but that I think your reasoning is iffy. I know it ends with Sasuke awakening the MS which is the Itachi Pursuit Arc. Like you said the databooks go with most recent but we edit the characters to show them from start to finish. The Third Databook showed their ages going off recent but we place their age specifically of when they were shown. If you don't understand by now I smh. No offense but I don't get you. Deidara was 18 when he was shown in Part 2 and time obviously passed about several months where he would age 19 and die in the fight with Sasuke in the Itachi Pursuit Arc. And yes that battle was part of that arc. [[User:Rachin123|Rachin123]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 22:35, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
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Exactly. The databook goes as far as recent activity. That's why ages were the way they were. I'm pretty sure stats would be recent as of the Itachi Pursuit Arc. I'm glad you understand but the only difference we wouldn't know what their stats would be from a certain time. But yes as of Shippuden he'd be 18-19. Do you want to the honors and change the age? [[User:Rachin123|Rachin123]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 22:59, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
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== Chat ==
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Hey, able to come in the chat for a little bit please? Thanks! --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|Contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 20:14, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
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:That was a good chat we had last night! Wondering if you'll be able to come in chat again today. Need to talk about something with ya, thanks. :) --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|Contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 09:13, October 10, 2014 (UTC)
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::Hey, able to chat? --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|Contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 19:25, October 10, 2014 (UTC)
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:::^ again, if possible. :D --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|Contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:21, October 11, 2014 (UTC)
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::::Just saw your PM to me on the chat, can you come on so I can reply to it? :) --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|Contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 15:56, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
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== ORAS ==
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Do you already own Nintendo 3DS in preparation for the game or do you plan on purchasing one along with it? I'd really like to play it too once it comes out, but frankly, I don't have cash to waste and buying a handheld for just a single game isn't the best investment. In case you already have a 3DS, how much did it cost you?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 19:07, October 10, 2014 (UTC)
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I see. I suppose that you have sold XY by now, right? I heard they were quite bad compared to Black/White. Unless XY's good, in which case getting a handheld for 2 games would be slightly more reasonable :P--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 19:16, October 10, 2014 (UTC)
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Alrighty 0_0 Wow, easy to satisfy, aren't you? To be amazed by handheld graphics :O--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 19:42, October 10, 2014 (UTC)
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Yours I guess? :P Watched it on youtube, it's essentially a glorified tutorial on '''very''' easy difficulty, but god, the Megas 0_0 [http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/0/0d/362Glalie-Mega.png] that thing looks like it eats souls of children. And [http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/1/1b/208Steelix-Mega.png] is awesome, although the added details make it less scary in my opinion. Also Glalie should be Rock/Ice imo and its Mega should have been Dark/Ice, otherwise, superb. ORAS is shaping to be good stuff. And you were right, XY and ORAS graphics are actually quite good for a handheld, but damn... only when the scene isn't shown from an angle they are, otherwise the aliasing destroys it all.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 14:05, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
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So what are your early impressions? (sometimes demos give the wrong impression about the full product)--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 18:28, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
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So good enough for a demo I guess ^_ what I'm personally disappointed about is the soundtrack, I hoped they would remix it more, it basically sounds like from 12 years ago, just on a more powerful hardware. I can find better fanmade ORAS tracks on Youtube than the mediocre job Gamefreak did with it, but oh well, don't fix what's not broken I guess.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 18:46, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwu0pVrrbxQ, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onKfNCFhpXQ it's ok I guess, but it sounds less dramatic during certain segments compared to the original, due to the change of instruments. Doesn't beat the masterpiece that were KantoJohto and Unova soundtracks, tho.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 21:04, October 18, 2014 (UTC)
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== life force ==
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Do you guys there over at germanpedia have an article for it? Sorry in case I already asked this before. Also can you tell me some examples where it is mention from the top of your head? I believe Chiyo's reincarnation technique mentions life force. Did Nagato's Rinne Tensei too?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 17:20, October 11, 2014 (UTC)
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Also [[Sage Art: Inorganic Reincarnation]]--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 08:36, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
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== Re: Colored Chapter ==
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Wow. How did I forget to give a colored raw chapter to our translator? Silly me. Here you go. [http://imgur.com/a/6EQT5 Right here]. :) • [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 16:43, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
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== Hey!! ==
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Tau-senpai. How you have been? It's been a long while since our last talk. Hoping the best for you. thanks so much for your helps here in this wiki. And being our resident translator, it's been a honor to work and deal with someone like you. ^_^ —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 20:57, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
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:Don't worry senpai. I won't leave this wiki again but also I won't be here as I was in the past, yeah. Many updates that actually I missed from the last three months especially the new movie, the manga ending news and the fourth databook release (Actually Shueisha called it fanbook I don't know why?!!). And yeah, I'll do my work as well to see what's new and your work with those stuff will be heavier than me. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 08:42, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
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==Sasuke spin-off==
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Hi there, I'm aware and I feel that you a are a smart and update person. I would like to know if you have knowledge about something related to the Sasuke spin-off. It was supossed to be released about a week ago and I haven't heard any news about this. If you know anything, it would be useful. Thanks in advance. :D. [[User:Leo Hatake|<span style="color:MidnightBlue; font-family:'Harrington'; font-size:20px;">Leo</span>]][[User Talk:Leo Hatake|<span style="color:DarkGreen; font-family:'Harrington'; font-size:20px">Hatake</span>]] 22:09, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
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== forum management ==
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I've noticed you removing comments on the forums, well, thanks, but that's a moderator's job. Also 95% of Akame's comments could be considered pointless, so most of them would have to be removed, we just have to learn tolerate him I guess.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 17:49, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
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:Currently it's a bug that anyone can remove comments. But "officially" only moderators and sysops should do so.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 17:57, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
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::Honestly, I already consider Tau to be a forum moderator, despite the lacking badge (which I specifically asked someone to add to the tags). --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|Contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:58, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
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:::You could consider him "already a sysop" too, but that would be jumping the gun I suppose :)--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 18:02, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
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== Notify an admin ==
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Please use it only when really required like someone posting something that warrants a block. As such there is nothing more a sysop can do after the comment has been removed--''[[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme</span>]]'' 19:02, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
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== Re: TSB ==
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We did once. But that has since changed to my understanding. We aren't going to get more confirmation than Kishi listing all the natures for us. There is literally no indication that every user has a different combination of natures. Uses them differently? Perhaps, and it has been noted. But everyone of them having different nature combinations? No. Not likely. I mean, what more can we wait for? We have the natures. We know what they're composed of. What more can Kishi give us? Assume for a moment that you and Elveonora (good God he's going to comment on this and it'll be a ****ing headache) are right: they're all different. What? Kishi is going to give us each individual character's nature combinations for a single technique that is the same across the board? Or are we just going to accept the ample information we already have? I simply do not see the missing holes you see. We've been given plenty of information. More than enough to warrant a decision. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 23:41, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
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: No problem. Thanks for asking. I'm hopeful, like I'm sure that you are, that the final databook/fanbook actually clears up some of these contentious issues, but I'm not holding my breath. >_> Kishi likes to troll us. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 23:50, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
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:: No shame in that. I don't care what they say, at this point, so long as they stop the arguments. I have a feeling there is going to be a whole lot of gloating once it's released, but hopefully after that, things will die down around here and go back to the semi-calm state we were in before. Also, you're getting ORAS I hear? I'm a ''huge'' Pokemon fan. Been one since I was little and never grew out of the games. They're shaping up to be pretty sweet! Are you getting the demo? ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 00:12, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
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== [[Thread:146191#20|Definition of jinchūriki]] ==
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As you may see in the link above, I think there might be an actual panel where A comments about someone being a jinchūriki despite not having the tailed beast sealed inside. It should be in [[Golden Bonds|chapter #529]], page 4, lower right panel. Hoping that it may give some hint…--[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg|15px]] [[User:JOA20|'''JOA''']][[User talk:JOA20|''20'']] 20:19, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
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== Translation request ==
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Senpai, can you translate what's said in the [http://readms.com/r/one_piece/764/2575/1 cover] of the latest Weekly Shōnen Jump magazine issue which officially will be released tomorrow. I mean the Naruto's part in the upper-left corner. And if possible, just compare it with the previous issue. Thanks in advance —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 15:23, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
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:Thanks for your quick response senpai. Just we have only four chapters remaining '''including''' this issue and after its release three chapters left then, right? —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 20:51, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
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Can the device be used while the battery is being charged or does one have to wait until the recharge is complete before the device is ready to be used again? Thanks.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 20:07, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
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Right, it was a stupid question, but just wanted to make sure. Thanks for clarification.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 20:57, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
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== The ''Last'' movie ==
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Where was it stated that [[Naruto 7: The Last]] is truly the last ''Naruto'' movie ever?--[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg|15px]] [[User:JOA20|'''JOA''']][[User talk:JOA20|''20'']] 16:23, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
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:Not going to play Captain Obvious, but wasn't it "the first ''Naruto'' movie in two years will be <s>entitled</s> ''The Last''!"--[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg|15px]] [[User:JOA20|'''JOA''']][[User talk:JOA20|''20'']] 16:45, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

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Verlassen des Wikis Edit

Bitte lass es nicht dazu kommen! Ich verstehe, warum du sauer bist, aber in manchen Fällen muss man einfach über die Ignoranz und Sturheit der anderen hinwegsehen, bis eine glasklare Antwort vom Mangaka kommt (am besten in Form eines neuen Databooks, wann immer das auch sein mag). Aus genau diesem Grund nehme ich an den meisten Diskussionen nicht teil, weil ich Angst hab, mir das Wiki dadurch verderben zu lassen.

Auch wenn wir bis jetzt nicht so viel miteinander zu tun hatten bitte ich dich, die Sache mit dem Aufhören nochmal zu überdenken. Immerhin bist du meiner Meinung nach eine der wenigen Personen hier mit einem gesunden Menschenverstand, ganz zu schweigen von deinen Japanisch-Kenntnissen. Dein Verlassen wäre ein Verlust für das Wiki, ganz sicher! Norleon (talk) 23:03, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re: I'd like you to Edit

Request denied. You're upset that's understandable. You want to leave, that is understandable. But I'm not going to encourage this kind of response by banning you and keeping you from coming back if you calm down and decide you want to come back.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 15:53, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Your a great addition to this wiki and deep down i don't think anyone wants you to leave. The wiki needs you. Munchvtec (talk) 17:38, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Seelentau-san, what's going on?! I was held at school, so I couldn't come on the wiki until now, but from what I understand, you're leaving? Why?! The wiki needs, and I'll be really sad if you leave. :(--NinjaSheik 02:26, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Apology & Question Edit

So, first, I would like you to know that, though I disagreed venomously with your analysis of the Jiton (and still do), I do not harbor any ill will towards you. I'm glad you decided to stick around because, truth be told, you were right about one thing: you are a pretty unbias reader of the series. Doesn't mean I agree with some of your explanations, but I'd be wrong not to say as much. I never wanted to drive you from the wiki because, as many others have expressed, you are very much needed here and it would truly be a loss for the wiki without you around. If you still dislike me, well, I can't help that, but I do want to extend to you an sincere apology for letting my frustration with everything get the best of me. I miss the days when we, as a site, could sit down and discuss conflicting ideas without feeling the burning desire to tear each other's throats out and I know you feel the same.

That being said, I have an honest question for you in regards to the Gudōdama. We're both aware of how contentious that debate is, and the fact of the matter is, we're banging our heads into a wall over some fairly simple questions. It is my belief that Kishimoto finally gave us the natures for the Gudōdama (regardless of the user; the technique itself) with Black Zetsu's remark. I realize that some disagree with me on this point, and you might too, which is the point of my question:

After examining the RAW of Black Zetsu's text, and knowing what previous characters have said in regards to the Truth-Seeking Balls, do you think that solid manga evidence suggests that each user's Gudōdama is of a different and unique composition? Or do you think that the technique, like any other technique, is composed of the exact same elements?

That question seems to be the only one keeping us from finally putting this whole TSB debate behind us once and for all. Let me be clear, I don't care either way. I have my beliefs, but if the manga says something, we obviously need to document it. If its still too ambiguous, we wait, but recently it was decided that every user had the same natures except Naruto, whom the consensus said should have every nature but Yin-Yang, due to a few user's absolute refusal to believe he can use them. I just want the issue behind us. So, regarding that question, what is your thoughts? (And for any third party reading this, please don't butt in. Its rude to barge into other's conversations.) ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 23:06, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

I suppose the only logical thing to do then is to wait, and, as you said, record what we know. Madara did say something about being surprised that Naruto wasn't erased when he blocked his Gudōdama, and thought that it might have something to do with him being heavily wounded (having not noticed his senjutsu enhancement yet), so I assume that means his can too. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 23:40, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
I believe the evidence is there for Jiton. Using context clues and making an assumption are two different things. With the TSB, I understand the convolution, but there really is nothing like that for Gaara, Shukaku, and the other Jiton users. If you go back and read all of related chapters (even some of Gaara's words in his fight with Kimimaro) its quite apparent that's what Kishi intended. TheUltimate3 and the others have a valid point when they say Kishimoto won't tell us everything. Like any author, he's going to assume that we have the necessary material to put two and two together to get four. In areas where its murky (I believe that 3 out of 4 users of TSB having consistently all the same thing isn't murky, but I can see why you and others do), we can just do our best and record only what has been flat out told to us, but in areas where its pretty much obvious, we need to be readers, no Kishi's editors, and do the math. That's just my opinion though. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 00:33, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
Its pretty simple: does the manga support it, or is the evidence too flimsy to hold up? If someone can show me page, after page, after page, after chapter, after interview, after quote, etc, ect, that something is a certain way in the manga and it all holds up: add it. There's nothing wrong with that. Jiton is one example of that. When Gaara's father displayed the exact same rings as his son in his eyes, Kishi was basically handing us that information on a platter, regardless of whether we think so or not. If weren't a contributor to this wiki, and was just reading this manga to myself, that would've been an "Aha!" moment for me, because I'm the type of reader who will connect information. That's part of reading a story like this and its enjoyable when the author wants you to notice something rather than slap you in the face with information all the time. Sometimes, they want you to find it yourself, and I have fun looking for it. But if someone tells me that Sasuke has Hashirama's cells, for example (this was an actual argument), just because Kabuto said he used his studies of Hashirama's cells to heal him, and that's the only evidence they give me, I'm going to wave them off and call crap on it.
That's why I, personally, wasn't involving Science in the Jiton debate (yes, I know others were). Kishi says he sucks at Science. We don't know how much he sucks (he obviously thought that Sakura's method of keeping Naruto alive was legit, for example; it wasn't. Punched through a rib and a lung scientifically), so its an assumption to say he'd even know what diamagnetism is. To him, it literally could've been as simple as "Hey, I want [insert Jiton user here] to magnetize this!" and that's it. But the manga itself held up, in my view, consistently. So to answer your question in one concerted effort: Where do we draw the line? If the manga supports it, and we can give enough references to back it up, add it. If it doesn't hold up or the references are too flimsy to use? Wait. That's how I see it. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 01:00, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
That's where consensus comes in. Its one thing if one or two people are seeing the same thing. If three, four, five people are all seeing the same thing based on the same evidence, you've got one of two things going on: mass hysteria, which is unlikely, or something legitimate is being presented. I mean, the consensus, prior to your analysis on Jiton, was literally unanimous. Even in the recent debates, I only saw Elveonora and Munch (can never say his full username) that still saw things similarly to you (Elve had his own ideas, but that's getting more and more common lately). And what's more, we were all seeing the same evidence. The same consistency. The same patterns and the same context clues. In those cases, consensus is our best option. If there isn't one, then obviously the evidence is too flimsy. You'll see me doing the same thing. Where I'm on the fence with something, or want to believe something, but the current evidence just doesn't hold up, so I'll ask to wait on it. I have no problem waiting when the information isn't there. Its when we literally have the answer right in front of us and we're screaming at each other over the stupidest technicalities that I start having issues. As for "grasping for straws", I shouldn't have jumped on that bandwagon, and I apologize. I let my frustration get the better of me. But there are cases of that. The debate on whether or not Naruto could use certain elements through his connection to the Bijū, for example. We had one user who just refused to let it go through and was even reverting the edits once the decision was made out of nothing more than his own stubbornness to give in. That is grasping for straws and when that happens, we obviously need to deal with the user in question, because that's a person problem, not a wiki issue. So, yes, it was wrong of me to accuse you of that. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 01:28, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
If the manga supports it? Absolutely. Kishi may retcon or correct facts later, but you can't tell a group of users who have reference after reference from the manga supporting their argument that they are wrong. Their basis is the manga. No different from anything else we add on this wiki. I mean, if we can't use the manga to prove our points, and get stuff done around here, we might as well lock the entire wiki until the series ends and the last databook comes out. We have to do something, Seel. Its not like we're saying, okay, add whatever you want to the wiki! We're saying, "If you have credible, consistent (direct confirmation works too, obviously) and the consensus sees it, then we add it. If you don't, we wait." That's not a bad system. It literally requires manga evidence, which is what you want in the first place, correct? Like I said, Kishimoto isn't going to tell us everything on a neon billboard. No author anywhere does that, so we shouldn't expect him too either. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 02:09, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in... Edit

But I had to tell you this. I overlooked your messaging with TTF, and you asked if Madara ever negated something with his TSBs. He did actually, in chapter 665, page 12 when he cut off Minato's left arm with his TSB. Minato's left arm never grew back, just like Obito did with Minato's right arm. So yeah, Madara's TSB also has Yin-Yang Release. Again, didn't mean to butt in and be rude, that's why I created a separate headline on your page, but I was just trying to help. :) Glad you haven't left the wiki, that would have been a blow to Narutopedia. --WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 00:22, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Of course they do, Madara is a known YYR user since he had told Obito he would teach him just that--Elveonora (talk) 09:25, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

SPS&Rinnegan Edit

Not entirely:

  • both Naruto and Sasuke received power from Hagoromo which allowed them to awake SPST and Rinnegan respectively (I originally thought it was because of Hashirama stuff alone), so having 9TBs chakras by itself wouldn't give him SPST without Hagoromo's touch--Elveonora (talk) 22:33, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

I mean latest chapter made it clear that Hagoromo has to do with their SPST and Rinnegan (so the tattoos weren't the only things he gave them) but Hagoromo didn't give Naruto TB chakra, they themselves did and Obito did the remaining 2. So whatever Hagoromo gave Naruto is the "missing piece" to the puzzle.--Elveonora (talk) 10:18, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Talk about coincidental timing 0_0 we messaged each other at the same time :P And yes, latest chapter makes it seem Hagoromo has to do with their powers, but you may figure out otherwise once you get your hands on the raw or so. And even though Madara didn't meet Hagoromo, he was TT jinch. TT is 9TB + x, the 'x' being what allows Six Paths Sage Technique--Elveonora (talk) 10:21, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Hagoromo said that giving power only to one of them resulted in Ashura and Indra rivalry, giving power to both Naruto and Sasuke didn't fix it tho. So if the only power Hagoromo gave to Naruto and Sasuke were the tattoos, then either Ashura or Indra must have had one or both tattoos as well. Unless he was talking about different thing than the tattoos--Elveonora (talk) 10:27, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, Indra was already born with strong chakra and Ashura's eventually matured/bloomed as time went on. But birth inheritance isn't gift, unless Hagoromo created Ashura weak and Indra strong with Creation of All Things. So I suppose what the original gift refers to is Ashura's "battle avatar" Hagoromo likely gave Ashura Six Paths Senjutsu. Indra wasn't given anything, thus had only Sharingan. This time around, Hagoromo not only has given Ashura's incarnate Six Paths Senjutsu, but Rinnegan to Indra's incarnate as well. This way it makes sense--Elveonora (talk) 10:42, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

But Ashura eventually became equal to Indra. Hagoromo says giving power to one caused rivalry, so that doesn't seem like it refers to one of them having been born stronger. Hagoromo had no input about how their genes would turn out. Also I believe in an older chapter this is referenced and Hagoromo says he gave power to Ashura, so giving power to Ashura made him stronger than Indra thus caused trouble and as such can't refer to their birth inheritance, since Ashura was the weaker one originally. But you are the translator, so you may know better--Elveonora (talk) 10:52, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

So Hagoromo gave Naruto and Sasuke successorship to Ninshu? That's it, Hagoromo made a clear parallel between giving power to Naruto and Sasuke and having given power just to Ashura--Elveonora (talk) 11:12, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I think in the latest chapter. But you may want to take this to relevant talkpage for everyone to chime in.--Elveonora (talk) 11:18, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Six Paths for Kaguya Edit

I thought it was agreed that Kaguya has no involvement to the Six Paths or any related techniques.—Steveo920 (Talk) 10:05, September 11, 2014

I believe it was during the discussion of the Truth-Seeking Balls.—Steveo920 (Talk) 10:11 September 11, 2014

stuff Edit

Rikudou Rod etc. were also used I believe, but by Naruto and he likes to give weird nicknames. In my honest opinion "six paths" simply means Hagoromo, thus six path's means Hagoromo's.

  • Hagoromo's Senjutsu (his Senjutsu)
  • Hagoromo's Chakra (his chakra)
  • Hagoromo's Power (his power, unspecified)
  • Hagoromo's Yin Power/Yang Power (his power, specified)
  • Hagoromo's Chibaku Tensei (specialized version of the technique)
  • Hagoromo's Technique (his personal technique with the Rinnegan)--Elveonora (talk) 20:31, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Yes. But within the context of what we know, all six paths stuff = hagoromo stuff. There's no way to figure why he is six paths and what it is tho. We may need a databook for that. And I think your list should be complete, I don't recall any other six paths good job--Elveonora (talk) 21:06, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

You did, but honestly, half the terms most likely refer to the same thing. Also in case you would, then be so nice and give some input to these:

Thanks in advance. The first, Six Paths Yin/Yang Powers were never called Yin and Yang nature releases, were they? The second, I believe you also know that Naruto is just a pseudo jinchuuriki of 1-8 TBs and not a full one. The third, is Naruto even an user of kekkei mora? He asks the Tailed Beasts for the natures, so he doesn't know how to use them himself. Therefore I think it's nonsensical that he has the ability to merge all natures that he can't even use, not to mention it has a genetic vibe to it, therefore in my opinion only Kaguya and Hagoromo should be considered users, not her jinchuuriki--Elveonora (talk) 21:17, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

That's understandable, but man, If I had to count how many times I wanted to almost leave the wiki ... :P But what would this place be without me, right? :D Anyway:

  • I guess you are right. Although that's the reason why I'm wondering, are there things such as Six Paths Yin/Yang Release? :O

And funny you mention that. The term pseudo worked just fine, until certain people changed it as they deemed fit with "logic" that "when chakra talks, they are full jinchuuriki" or so, like wtf. But I don't think you should be quiet about this, once the raw comes out and it implies that the Tailed Beasts aren't truly within Naruto, then you should let people know. And I know. Fact is, our beliefs are to be put in line soon, very soon... as soon as Naruto's TSB clashes with Sasuke or his technique ;) I admit that there's a chance we are wrong, but in my opinion more things imply his aren't all natures. So if we turn out to be wrong, then I will personally apologize to everyone I disagreed with and leave with a tail in between my legs--Elveonora (talk) 21:51, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Your opinions on stuff Edit

I just wanted to say that I completely agree and support all the stuff you say. i agree with your opinion's on magnet release too. Just wanted to let you know that your not the only user that doesnt agree with all the bull shit that gets added. Munchvtec (talk) 00:10, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Butting in :P the thing is, it shouldn't be about an agreement to begin with. If millions of people decide to agree about something that's just plain wrong, it won't become right anywhere but in their own heads. And even if they are right, they still are making an assumption (even if true) thus are jumping the gun, before it's actually known to be true.--Elveonora (talk) 12:04, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Help Edit

How do i make articles that don't have a template like for example an article on a book not the volume? Munchvtec (talk) 18:13, September 13, 2014 (UTC)

no offense taken and i was gonna create articles for the three anime profiles books. Munchvtec (talk) 18:16, September 13, 2014 (UTC)

Six Paths Edit

In the chapter that Naruto seals Madara's shadows in, he refers to the black rods as the "Sage's Rods". I don't know if that means anything or what the RAW's actually say, but I thought I'd bring that to your attention. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 01:58, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Names Edit

I know how and where to look. Currently from here and here. I expect both to get more names as the days go by. The links on the first I can only read right when I get Google's cached version, I just look for a video game technique I know they have. Second link will have more movesets as the days go by as well. I got most of the Storm 2, Generations and Storm 3 from their Storm 3 site over at the enormous list I have at Forum:Video game jutsu overhaul/sub. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:38, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

not very serious, just bored Edit

Yet, I've been thinking... most Root remembers were orphans, right? Iruka is an orphan. The guy in the background looks just like Iruka and I presume that that's Hyo under the mask. So both orphans, same scar, same hairstyle and hair color, same eye color... same person? :O Too bad it doesn't work since Hyo is 21 years old, rait? T_T--Elveonora (talk) 12:26, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Outer Path Fact-Checking Edit

Hey, I was wondering if you could translate a few things related to the Outer Path abilities when you get a chance.

  • Chapter 565, pages 6 and 10 - Do these seem to attribute the connected vision to Gedō or just controlling corpses with chakra? (The article currently states both are derived from Gedō).
  • Chapter 569, page 2 - Does Obito actually say he'll drag Four-Tails and Naruto inside of himself? This isn't documented anywhere on the wiki, as far as I can tell.
  • Same chapter, page 10 - What does Obito say about his and Nagato's binding power? Is this sufficient evidence that both the chakra receivers and chains are Gedō powers? We currently list the latter as one but not the former, using this page as evidence. (And yes, I'm fully aware that Madara created receivers without the Rinnegan in one instance).

Thanks.--BeyondRed (talk) 23:49, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for butting in, but I'm also interested in the Outer Path's connection to the "Gedo Mazo". I remember that you already explained this somewhere, but I can't find the topic.--Elveonora (talk) 09:49, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Translation requests Edit

Can you translate these two pages for me??

http://blog.pierrot.jp/wp-content/uploads/blog.pierrot.jp/2014/05/%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BF%E3%83%81%EF%BC%88%E6%9C%A8%E3%83%8E%E8%91%89%E6%99%82%E4%BB%A3%EF%BC%89%E3%81%AE%E3%82%B3%E3%83%94%E3%83%BC.jpg

http://blog.pierrot.jp/wp-content/uploads/blog.pierrot.jp/2014/06/%E3%82%B5%E3%82%B9%E3%82%B1%E3%81%AE%E4%B8%A1%E8%A6%AA.jpg ItachiWasAHero (talk) 01:56, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

I just wanted to know everything that was said on those pages is all. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 21:32, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke and Kakashi Character Scans Translations? Edit

Hello Seelentau-Senpai! How are you today? When you find the time, can you please translate the new scan of Sasuke and Kakashi's character design for the new movie? I've heard some rumors that it says Sasuke has turned good and Kakashi is Hokage, and also that starting in October, we will get new teasers of the movie with every new Naruto Shippuden episode. Can you please confirm or deny these rumors, as well as let me (us) know any other information the scan provides? Thanks a bunch- have a nice day! --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 23:43, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

Does it say that Sasuke is now on the "good side"? What do the little messages next to both Sasuke and Kakashi say? And do you have any extensive info about what these teasers are? Thanks! --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 19:01, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Obito and Hagoromo's chakra Edit

Kakashi while being possessed by Obito phantom said Six Paths chakra stuff. So unless Six Paths chakra doesn't equal Hagoromo's chakra, then Obito and by extension Kakashi had Hagoromo's chakra.--Elveonora (talk) 13:15, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

He does? In that case take back what I said then... but what is Six Paths Power again? :D Sasuke had Six Paths Yin Power, Naruto had Six Paths Yang Power, but what kind of power did Obito have and more importantly from where? :O--Elveonora (talk) 13:19, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Question Edit

Based on here, do you believe that the TSB is a tailed beast skill (which requires TB chakra)? Simple yes or no and an explanation will do, thanks. --WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 13:22, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

I don't believe the TSB is a tailed beast skill either, because of chapter 690, when Kaguya remember Hagoromo and Hamura sealing her, Hagoromo was clearly using a TSB without having Tailed Beast chakra (due to facing the original Tailed Beast). I'll elaborate further on what I think a TSB is now made of after you give me your opinion on what happened in 690. --WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 13:36, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
I think he was using one TSB, instead of multiple. --WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 13:37, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Just pointing out that young Hagoromo with a TSB was shown in chapter 680, was that a pre-jinchuuriki?--Elveonora (talk) 13:46, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Hamura and his staff is a different subject altogether. What I'm getting at is that, like you, I don't think the TSB is a tailed beast skill, but because of Hagoromo. I say the TSB is made of the five natures, Yin-Yang, senjutsu, and the Six Paths Power/chakra. Not tailed beast chakra. For Naruto, I believe the tailed beasts gave him the elements necessary to use the TSB. I also believe that the TT gave Madara the elements necessary to use the TSB as well (with him pulling that lightning technique out of nowhere). But because Hagoromo mastered the five elements, Yin-Yang, and used the TSB without tailed beast chakra when facing the TT shown in 670 and 690, that is where I agree with you on the TSB not being a tailed beast skill. Correct me if I'm wrong on what I think, please. Thank you for your time. --WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 13:48, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

My bad for creating debate on your talkpage @Tau, I just wanted to ask a simple question and point out that I agree with your assertion that the TSB isn't a TB skill. Sorry if I needlessly invaded your talkpage. --WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 14:06, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

But it is a Tailed Beast Skill for Obito and Madara, because Six Paths chakra comes from Kaguya/the Ten-Tails. Hagoromo is an unique case, since he is her son.--Elveonora (talk) 14:14, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

TSBEdit

Howdy, on the Truth-Seeking Ball talkpage, a user brought up the question if the name should be plural or not, but nothing came of it. Ten told him to ask you, but since I saw no one asking, I took it upon myself to ask. Could it be plural? "Let go your earthly tether." (talk) 21:26, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

would you please Edit

Upload an official and full version of this image? It comes from one of the chapters' covers of the fight between him and Uchiha brothers.--Elveonora (talk) 11:08, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, thanks. Do you think it could be used as an image for Jugo Clan's KKG? It shows both the transformation and absorption of natural energy in one.--Elveonora (talk) 11:17, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, but there's not a single scene with Jugo which shows natural energy entering his body I believe--Elveonora (talk) 11:25, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

U sure? 0_o http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/File:Naruto_the_Sage.png looks the same to me--Elveonora (talk) 11:29, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Two questions Edit

Not trying to argue with or revert your decisions, but:

1. Is it plausible to say all TSB use the Six Paths Sage Chakra from the SPST? Kaguya was able to use it without the SPST.

2. Why remove the notice? You never know if an editor who thinks he or she is correcting incorrect info could add wood release there again.

I know it always seems like there's a debate about the TSB or Six Paths, but I just have questions. That is all. --WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 22:21, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks... Edit

For removing the TB skill from TSB. But may I ask what was your reasoning? I thought it was because of Hagoromo. You say it's about the Six Paths power. Can you please further elaborate on why it isn't related to a TB? Thanks! --WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 11:14, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

So Kaguya copied later users you say...?--Elveonora (talk) 11:18, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

No, but it doesn't change that the first confirmed time of use comes from Hagoromo, not Kaguya. And even if she used it earlier, it doesn't prove that it's a TBs. • Seelentau 愛 11:20, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
Okay, so let me ask you this: where do you think Six Paths Chakra comes from?--Elveonora (talk) 11:21, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
No idea. If it really comes from the TT, aren't technically all jutsu and everything that uses chakra TB skills? • Seelentau 愛 11:24, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
Windstar made the same point and I guess so? 0_o The thing is, Six Paths Chakra isn't something that people and otherwise in Narutoverse commonly have, or so it would seem. Becoming a TT jinch grants this chakra, that's why it's a TBS to me--Elveonora (talk) 11:26, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
I did make that point. @Tau, if you can get by the duo of @Elveo and @Foxie, that'll be impressive. --WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 11:31, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

What defines a Tailed Beast Skill anyway? Was such term ever officially used in the first place?--Elveonora (talk) 11:33, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

No, it wasn't. And we don't have prove that becoming the TT's Jinchuriki grants Six Paths Chakra. • Seelentau 愛 11:40, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
Clarifiacation: Tailed Beast Skill was made to separate "Ninjutsu" from "Tailed Beast Ball" which at the time of it's creation wasn't considered an actual jutsu but more of a thing tailed beasts could just do. It is in no way official and there are enough holes in the concept that it could very easily be done away with in full.
Carry on with whatever.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 11:46, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
@Ulti, thanks for clarification. So it's basically fanon I guess? 0_0 Maybe we should change some things if that's the case. @Seel, if becoming TT jinch doesn't grant SPC, then where did Obito and Madara get it? ;)--Elveonora (talk) 11:47, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
No idea. I can just say what the manga says. • Seelentau 愛 11:53, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
Well you do have an idea, they got it from the Ten-Tails obviously :)--Elveonora (talk) 11:57, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
Can you provide proof for that, other than "They only got it after becoming TT's Jinchuriki"? • Seelentau 愛 12:00, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

But ain't that 'nough proof?--Elveonora (talk) 12:01, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Considering that Naruto, who never was Jinchuriki of the TT, has the orbs, too? No. • Seelentau 愛 12:03, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
But was given chakra from Hagoromo, who not only is Kaguya's son but also was the Ten-Tails' jinchuuriki. If you go backwards, the origin of all chakra is Kaguya--Elveonora (talk) 12:11, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
He was given chakra from Hagoromo, not from the TT. You're making the Hagoromo-Kaguya-TT connection seem way too easy, man. • Seelentau 愛 12:18, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
^^^^Again, thanks. You somehow got by @Elveo, but you'll have to find a way to get by @Foxie as well, for this is one of the rare topics @Elveo and him agree on. @Foxie may come at add the TB skill thing there all over again. --WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 19:26, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

And here I thought Hagoromo's chakra came from his mother, but whatever...--Elveonora (talk) 19:45, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

This is late and may be fruitless but.. Edit

http://i.imgur.com/qE8cj3e.png This is the supposed official spoiler for 693. Can you translate it please?? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 23:17, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

Darn.. damn internet trolls. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 01:28, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

My theory on how nature releases work Edit

Once you said that you are interested in mechanism behind chakra, so you may be interested in what I think.

Clearly we both understand what each of the chakra natures is (heated chakra, thin sharp chakra, vibrating chakra, density manipulation chakra, state manipulation chakra) so the question may be: how come then the resulting techniques appear as actual fire, wind, lightning, earth and water? Note: you may disagree, because the explanation has less to do with magic but more with chemistry, but I see it like this:

  • To exhale fire, they do so by kneading Katon Chakra into gases inside of their bodies, exhaling said gases as fire.
  • To make wind, there are multiple ways to do so. For example Temari, she kneads Fuuton Chakra into her fan and with the motion of it, she creates air movement and pressure that is like blades, thus wind. Danzo for another example did it by kneading Fuuton Chakra directly into his breath and then exhaling it.
  • To make lightning, they knead Raiton Chakra into actual electricity in their bodies, notably from brain and nervous system.
  • To spit earth, they knead Doton Chakra into their bodily fluids and other chemicals, spitting it up as a substance. You probably wouldn't want to touch or smell that.
  • To spit water, they knead Suiton Chakra into actual water inside of their bodies. No wonder Suigetsu has to drink so much.

Most people probably think, that for example Wood Release is actual earth mixed with water, but that would be mud. It is just the chakras mixed together, not substances.

Do you agree with at least some of these? I hope so ._.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 15:01, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

So you prefer a much simpler explanation then I guess :P Would heated chakra be a fire? I don't think so, it makes more sense to me that it's the heated chakra igniting bodily gases thus producing fire. And for example Naruto's Rasenshuriken doesn't produce wind like Temari or Danzo's techniques do, that's because he infuses rotating chakra with thin and sharp chakra rather than the air. Also Tobirama can create water out of nowhere as well, rather than just from his body. There are water particles in the air, infusing them with chakra could explain that--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 15:13, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

I got the idea from Shizune kneading chakra into chemicals inside of her body and exhaling them as poisonous gas, so such a thing indeed is done in Narutoverse.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 09:22, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Naruto Tankobon omitted cover text Edit

Is it possible to still purchase old magazine prints of the chapters that have the text?--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 11:21, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

The chapter cover with Yamato on it which says that Hashirama died 50 years prior to Part II. can you confirm?--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 12:06, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

My memory sucks to simply put it, so I may repeat myself often :P I should train my brain more often I guess. And I see, I would take that statement as him dying 50 years ago. That would fall in with Hashirama's flashback of Tsunade. I'd put his death as 34 bNB rather than 38.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 14:21, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

I believe Naruto was still 15 when that chapter cover said that, so he died 35 years before Naruto was born right?? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 01:02, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Nope. The Cover is for the chapter titled "Sai's Betrayal". • Seelentau 愛 01:15, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

"his cells live on even 50 years later" 50 years later, that clearly means he died 50 years ago. It doesn't specify month or day of course.ItachiWasAHero (talk) 01:23, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, 34 bNB. But for some reason I didn't include it. Can't remember why^^ • Seelentau 愛 10:28, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Danzo as a full grown adult is 170cm tall and as studio pierrot shows Danzo was 168cm when Tobirama died that means Danzo grew 2cm after Tobirama's death and males don't grow in height after turning 21 biologically. I think if Kishi is following general biology like he has seemed to be doing this entire time then they were all 20 years old when Tobirama died, it was also said somewhere in one of the books that Hiruzen was hokage when he had his team and we know they were 6 when they became genin.. and the fact that Tsunade had to be at least around a year old to be able to do "gamble".. I think at the very EARLIEST Hashirama died in 37 bNB with Tobirama becoming Hokage immediately after his death and as we saw in naruto and naruto shippuden, A LOT can happen in a short amount of time( part one of Naruto lasted roughly a year from 1/01/13-12/22/13 and look how much shit happened in that time) in this manga. I'm willing to bet Tobirama died in 36 bNB because it was shown that he died during war times against Kumogakures Ginkaku Force, Tobirama was also the kind that would fight back against Kumo even if it was the gold and silver brothers who attacked him and not them... ItachiWasAHero (talk) 10:45, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

I don't take biology into account here. As for the rest, I know that it's somewhat like you say. As I said, I have no idea why I didn't include it. I think I even did once, but deleted it again. • Seelentau 愛 10:53, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Well, I guess we can conclude that Hashirama and Tobirama died very close to each other, matter of months.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 11:31, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah it makes more sense that way, since Tsunade would be around 1 years, when Hashirama died and my son is smart as hell at 1 year old, I know Tsunade would of been able to be taught to gamble at 1. So this makes it fit so much better ItachiWasAHero (talk) 11:59, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

If he died 50 years back, that would have made her 4 not 1--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 12:00, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

I was trying to say maybe 50 years was a generalization of the length of time since his death like how they said 10 years for Kakashi Gaiden even though it was 14 years earlier that it happened in truth, and if indeed Hashirama died in 37 bNB and not 34 bNB, that would mean Tobirama most likely died in 36 bNB. It fits everything pretty much. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 12:37, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Six Paths Question Edit

Sorry to bother you again, but I need some clarification. Can you give me your best explanation of the difference between the Six Paths Chakra and the Six Paths Power (even though you might not know the full extent of the latter)? Also, did Sasuke use the Six Paths Chakra or Power when he used his Chidori to damage Madara? And finally, doesn't the Six Paths Chakra = Indra + Asura? Or is that something else? I honestly think the Six Paths Chakra/Power comes from light-purple Rinnegan. Thanks in advance. --WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 18:03, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Bump. :/ --WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 00:05, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
Bumpity-bump. Please answer, I want to know, and after this, I will no longer ask you any questions again. --WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 16:45, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

six paths round 2 talk Edit

seel, brutha can U please check the last part of that discussion & tell me Ur opinion...no one seems to give a fuck...thanx --DARK ZER06 (talk) 07:55, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

Help 2 Edit

hey buddy...how U doin...need a favor...would U kindly translate "bloodline purification" & "bloodline annihilation" to Japanese 4 me...thanx :] --DARK ZER06 (talk) 19:28, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

uuuuuuuhh...U alive seel... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 21:35, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

...hope I haven't crossed any lines... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 22:07, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

ok...

now would U...sry would YOU please translate those two 4...sry FOR me :D
besides... I'm not that hard to understand......or am I? --DARK ZER06 (talk) 23:14, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
You are a little difficult to understand. Please try to type out full words, okay? We're not texting here, lol. ----WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 23:22, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

does EVERYONE in this forum have too be so cruel... Y U not appreciate my Rt T_T........

hhhhhhhh...ok...I'll try to tighten up my ass & minimize my laziness in writing...so that the green village citizens here can all be happy....happy.........because I'm HAPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ok I'll stop don't get mad... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 23:31, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

oh :|...haven't thought about it that way...sorry...but at least you could've replied the first time or said so sooner so I could've stopped earlier...& why is my title of Help is changed into Stuff in your reply :D? --DARK ZER06 (talk) 23:36, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

strange...you consider that way of typing rude but use words like shit & etc :|...

anyway...2 tickets?...not sure how I've done that...doesn't matter...
are there any other translations for these two that are more suitable than the ones you gave? --DARK ZER06 (talk) 11:54, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

so could you give the more suitable ones too? --DARK ZER06 (talk) 12:05, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

suitable in accordance with the manga...but I think the ones U gave are perfect...how about bloodline enrichment? --DARK ZER06 (talk) 12:29, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

many thanks friend --DARK ZER06 (talk) 12:35, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Chapter 694 Spoilers? Edit

If you have the time, can you please translate the spoiler for chapter 694 here (in the box on the bottom):[1] Also, if you wouldn't mind, what does the little message about Sasuke's new series say? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 02:03, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Neji Edit

Does his name ネジ actually mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw or is just the pronunciation the same?--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 12:36, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Thought so and answered as such on Narutoanswers, but a guy changed it to what Neji's trivia section states here, that it means screw--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 13:07, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Yup, I know the very basics ^_ but in that case the trivia should be a little bit more specific as not to confuse people--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 13:38, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

re: Dude Edit

Offensive? 0_o I'm my average self today and in a relatively good moon. People can't handle honesty, seriously... being a moderator means cleaning up the threads, those messages and threads that I deleted were pointless. Does that make me an asshole? Yes, but just doing my "job"--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 17:09, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

This needs attention Edit

User Kris.gilson.12 has been questioning the content of Kakashi's article and has made edits like this. (No, I am not asking that he be blocked) He has made a talkpage topic here, in an attempt to get attention to what he sees as chronologically inconsistent information. According to him, he has put a similar topic on Kakashi's talkpage and been waiting a month for someone to respond, but with no avail. I've personally told him that I will make sure this topic gets attention (in order to stop him from removing the information). Please go to Kakashi's talkpage and respond to it. He has a point he'd like to make. Thanks for your time. • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 02:51, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the correction... Edit

Thanks for correcting the WSJ schedule on my profile! If you wouldn't mind, up until the end of the series, can you please check the schedule every now and then, and either let me know about the recent changes to the schedule, or just fix it yourself like you did in this scenario? Thanks, and have a great day! --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 00:44, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Also, on a related note, I heard a rumor that they were possibly planning on releasing the WSJ magazines every Saturday now as opposed to Monday- is there any truth to this claim? Specifically, is there any plans to have an early release on the day of the final chapter (November 6 for us)? Thanks!--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 00:47, October 8, 2014 (UTC)
Take it with a grain of salt. I just heard it from someone over on Naruto Answers- Omega64. He knows his stuff, but I will admit (and he has too) that you guys (specifically you and Shakhmoot when he was still around) know more than he does about this type of thing. I will ask him where he heard these rumors and get back to you. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 00:55, October 8, 2014 (UTC)
I asked FF-Suzaku the same question, as I personally believe you two are the ones who know your stuff the most. Ultimately, it doesn't really matter. I assume we will learn later that week whether or not the chapter will be released on Wednesday or Thursday, correct?
Also, I asked Omega where he heard the rumors, and he said it's just basic chat that's been going around. As I said, take it with a grain of salt. If you learn anything new during the final week, please let me know so I can be better prepared to decide when to take that personal day. Don't be surprised if I ask a lot during that last week for any updates or whatnot. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 02:30, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Any talk about the possibility of an early chapter this week? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 19:46, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

new idea Edit

I would like to hear your input on the Appearance section forum thread please. Munchvtec (talk) 17:11, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Deidara's AgeEdit

Deidara was shown in the beginning and the databook 3 came out stopping at the Itachi Pursuit Arc so Deidara would be 19 but he was 18 in the Kazekage Rescue Arc because his birthday is in March and Shino was in January yet he was 15 when he was shown instead 16 showing that he the half of year didn't reflect him and neither should Deidara. Deidara was 18-19. He approximately turned 19 between the Sai and Sasuke-Hidan and Kakuzu Arc. Rachin123 (talk) 19:08, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

As much as I would like for the wiki to not add hypothetical ages, the wiki doesn't agree. ~SnapperTo 19:30, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
So the Book of Sho states that Team Guy was 16 in the beginning too right cuz I remember their ages being 17 for a while. We add hypothetical things in this wiki plenty of times. Rachin123 (talk) 19:31, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
For you to change the age of Deidara back 18-19 or change everything around in the other infoboxes for Team Guy, Team Kurenai and Team Asuma. Rachin123 (talk) 20:04, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

So your fine with me changing Deidara's age to 18-19 then? Rachin123 (talk) 20:10, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123 Let me point this out to you, you can't follow every single thing of the databook, that's one thing and tbh this is a fan wiki its not like Kishi created this wiki. Secondly the Databook 3 came out stopping at the Itachi Pursuit arc so likely more than half a year has past so people like Deidara would 19 around that arc, Tenten 17 too and so on. But we use the databook fine but going by our knowledge as far as we are concerned those were not their ages when they were shown in Shippuden but when the last arc stopped off at for the databook. But if you want disagree and will continue to change the age than someone needs to fix many of the characters ages. Tsunade was 54 around the Itachi Pursuit Arc but in the beginning she was definitely 53 so someone put 53-55 instead of 54-55 which it was before because logically following the story shed be 53-55. I'm not trying to start troubke ai'm just pointing out things. Rachin123 (talk) 20:23, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123 Exactly so Deidara should be 18-19. Rachin123 (talk) 20:44, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123 When you say "state" I hope you don't mean if someone say their age in the manga or anime because more than half of the characters age wasn't mentioned. If you mean in the databook all we know is that the databook stopped at the Itachi Pursuit Arc and Deidara was 19 when he died. But by being practical he must have been 18 at the start of Shippuden. The whole ages are gonna be a mess if we go with your way. Like is saod by the time of the Itahci Pursuit about a year would've passed and thus people aged and with the last age he published would be that age of that the last time but not the actual time they were shown in Shippuden. Rachin123 (talk) 21:06, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

Seel take a look at the infoboxes of the characters. Most of them have been changed. Team Kurenai and Team Asuma were 16 according to the databooks that would obviously put as their age going off the Itachi Pursuit Arc. But two and half years they'd be 15 which someone changed which is right. That databooks age reflects the time of nearest it stopped that's what I'm trying to tell you that you can't go off the databooks all the time. Rachin123 (talk) 21:36, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

I know that. Naruto was 15 when he arrived in Konoha. Its been two and half years. Sakura is 15 as well so looking at that Tenten would be 16 seeing how they are both in March but the databook states Tenten as 17 going by most recent like the stats. The stats go by most recent abilities up until the point it reached. Databook 3 reaching up to the Itachi Pursuit Arc. The Konoha 11 would all only be 2 years older than they were in Part 1 and between the Hidan and Kakuzu- Itachi Pursuit Arc they'd age a year. By the time of the war about another year has past. Covering Shippuden about 4 years have past from Part 1 and about 2 years from part 2. I'm getting tired of trying to get you to understand. Deidara was 18 from the start, up until his death with him being 19. Rachin123 (talk) 22:07, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
Oh I'm stating what I say pretty clear, it's you who just doesn't understand. I don't have a problem in particular but that I think your reasoning is iffy. I know it ends with Sasuke awakening the MS which is the Itachi Pursuit Arc. Like you said the databooks go with most recent but we edit the characters to show them from start to finish. The Third Databook showed their ages going off recent but we place their age specifically of when they were shown. If you don't understand by now I smh. No offense but I don't get you. Deidara was 18 when he was shown in Part 2 and time obviously passed about several months where he would age 19 and die in the fight with Sasuke in the Itachi Pursuit Arc. And yes that battle was part of that arc. Rachin123 (talk) 22:35, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

Exactly. The databook goes as far as recent activity. That's why ages were the way they were. I'm pretty sure stats would be recent as of the Itachi Pursuit Arc. I'm glad you understand but the only difference we wouldn't know what their stats would be from a certain time. But yes as of Shippuden he'd be 18-19. Do you want to the honors and change the age? Rachin123 (talk) 22:59, October 9, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

Chat Edit

Hey, able to come in the chat for a little bit please? Thanks! --Sajuuk [Moderator] Talk Page | Contribs | Channel 20:14, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

That was a good chat we had last night! Wondering if you'll be able to come in chat again today. Need to talk about something with ya, thanks. :) --Sajuuk [Moderator] Talk Page | Contribs | Channel 09:13, October 10, 2014 (UTC)
Hey, able to chat? --Sajuuk [Moderator] Talk Page | Contribs | Channel 19:25, October 10, 2014 (UTC)
^ again, if possible. :D --Sajuuk [Moderator] Talk Page | Contribs | Channel 17:21, October 11, 2014 (UTC)
Just saw your PM to me on the chat, can you come on so I can reply to it? :) --Sajuuk [Moderator] Talk Page | Contribs | Channel 15:56, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

ORAS Edit

Do you already own Nintendo 3DS in preparation for the game or do you plan on purchasing one along with it? I'd really like to play it too once it comes out, but frankly, I don't have cash to waste and buying a handheld for just a single game isn't the best investment. In case you already have a 3DS, how much did it cost you?--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 19:07, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

I see. I suppose that you have sold XY by now, right? I heard they were quite bad compared to Black/White. Unless XY's good, in which case getting a handheld for 2 games would be slightly more reasonable :P--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 19:16, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Alrighty 0_0 Wow, easy to satisfy, aren't you? To be amazed by handheld graphics :O--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 19:42, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Yours I guess? :P Watched it on youtube, it's essentially a glorified tutorial on very easy difficulty, but god, the Megas 0_0 [2] that thing looks like it eats souls of children. And [3] is awesome, although the added details make it less scary in my opinion. Also Glalie should be Rock/Ice imo and its Mega should have been Dark/Ice, otherwise, superb. ORAS is shaping to be good stuff. And you were right, XY and ORAS graphics are actually quite good for a handheld, but damn... only when the scene isn't shown from an angle they are, otherwise the aliasing destroys it all.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 14:05, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

So what are your early impressions? (sometimes demos give the wrong impression about the full product)--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 18:28, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

So good enough for a demo I guess ^_ what I'm personally disappointed about is the soundtrack, I hoped they would remix it more, it basically sounds like from 12 years ago, just on a more powerful hardware. I can find better fanmade ORAS tracks on Youtube than the mediocre job Gamefreak did with it, but oh well, don't fix what's not broken I guess.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 18:46, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwu0pVrrbxQ, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onKfNCFhpXQ it's ok I guess, but it sounds less dramatic during certain segments compared to the original, due to the change of instruments. Doesn't beat the masterpiece that were KantoJohto and Unova soundtracks, tho.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 21:04, October 18, 2014 (UTC)

life force Edit

Do you guys there over at germanpedia have an article for it? Sorry in case I already asked this before. Also can you tell me some examples where it is mention from the top of your head? I believe Chiyo's reincarnation technique mentions life force. Did Nagato's Rinne Tensei too?--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 17:20, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Also Sage Art: Inorganic Reincarnation--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 08:36, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Colored Chapter Edit

Wow. How did I forget to give a colored raw chapter to our translator? Silly me. Here you go. Right here. :) • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 16:43, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Hey!! Edit

Tau-senpai. How you have been? It's been a long while since our last talk. Hoping the best for you. thanks so much for your helps here in this wiki. And being our resident translator, it's been a honor to work and deal with someone like you. ^_^ —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 20:57, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Don't worry senpai. I won't leave this wiki again but also I won't be here as I was in the past, yeah. Many updates that actually I missed from the last three months especially the new movie, the manga ending news and the fourth databook release (Actually Shueisha called it fanbook I don't know why?!!). And yeah, I'll do my work as well to see what's new and your work with those stuff will be heavier than me. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 08:42, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke spin-offEdit

Hi there, I'm aware and I feel that you a are a smart and update person. I would like to know if you have knowledge about something related to the Sasuke spin-off. It was supossed to be released about a week ago and I haven't heard any news about this. If you know anything, it would be useful. Thanks in advance. :D. LeoHatake 22:09, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

forum management Edit

I've noticed you removing comments on the forums, well, thanks, but that's a moderator's job. Also 95% of Akame's comments could be considered pointless, so most of them would have to be removed, we just have to learn tolerate him I guess.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 17:49, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Currently it's a bug that anyone can remove comments. But "officially" only moderators and sysops should do so.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 17:57, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
Honestly, I already consider Tau to be a forum moderator, despite the lacking badge (which I specifically asked someone to add to the tags). --Sajuuk [Moderator] Talk Page | Contribs | Channel 17:58, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
You could consider him "already a sysop" too, but that would be jumping the gun I suppose :)--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 18:02, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Notify an admin Edit

Please use it only when really required like someone posting something that warrants a block. As such there is nothing more a sysop can do after the comment has been removed--~UltimateSupreme 19:02, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re: TSB Edit

We did once. But that has since changed to my understanding. We aren't going to get more confirmation than Kishi listing all the natures for us. There is literally no indication that every user has a different combination of natures. Uses them differently? Perhaps, and it has been noted. But everyone of them having different nature combinations? No. Not likely. I mean, what more can we wait for? We have the natures. We know what they're composed of. What more can Kishi give us? Assume for a moment that you and Elveonora (good God he's going to comment on this and it'll be a ****ing headache) are right: they're all different. What? Kishi is going to give us each individual character's nature combinations for a single technique that is the same across the board? Or are we just going to accept the ample information we already have? I simply do not see the missing holes you see. We've been given plenty of information. More than enough to warrant a decision. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 23:41, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for asking. I'm hopeful, like I'm sure that you are, that the final databook/fanbook actually clears up some of these contentious issues, but I'm not holding my breath. >_> Kishi likes to troll us. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 23:50, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
No shame in that. I don't care what they say, at this point, so long as they stop the arguments. I have a feeling there is going to be a whole lot of gloating once it's released, but hopefully after that, things will die down around here and go back to the semi-calm state we were in before. Also, you're getting ORAS I hear? I'm a huge Pokemon fan. Been one since I was little and never grew out of the games. They're shaping up to be pretty sweet! Are you getting the demo? ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 00:12, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

Definition of jinchūriki Edit

As you may see in the link above, I think there might be an actual panel where A comments about someone being a jinchūriki despite not having the tailed beast sealed inside. It should be in chapter #529, page 4, lower right panel. Hoping that it may give some hint…--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna JOA20 20:19, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

Translation request Edit

Senpai, can you translate what's said in the cover of the latest Weekly Shōnen Jump magazine issue which officially will be released tomorrow. I mean the Naruto's part in the upper-left corner. And if possible, just compare it with the previous issue. Thanks in advance —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 15:23, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response senpai. Just we have only four chapters remaining including this issue and after its release three chapters left then, right? —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 20:51, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

Nintendo 3ds question Edit

Can the device be used while the battery is being charged or does one have to wait until the recharge is complete before the device is ready to be used again? Thanks.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 20:07, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

Right, it was a stupid question, but just wanted to make sure. Thanks for clarification.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 20:57, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

The Last movie Edit

Where was it stated that Naruto 7: The Last is truly the last Naruto movie ever?--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna JOA20 16:23, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Not going to play Captain Obvious, but wasn't it "the first Naruto movie in two years will be entitled The Last!"--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna JOA20 16:45, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
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