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== Outer Path Discussions ==
 
   
When you get the chance, could you give your input in these two discussions relating to the [[Outer Path]]?:
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== Verlassen des Wikis ==
* [[Talk:Demonic Statue of the Outer Path#Outer_Path]]
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Bitte lass es nicht dazu kommen! Ich verstehe, warum du sauer bist, aber in manchen Fällen muss man einfach über die Ignoranz und Sturheit der anderen hinwegsehen, bis eine glasklare Antwort vom Mangaka kommt (am besten in Form eines neuen Databooks, wann immer das auch sein mag). Aus genau diesem Grund nehme ich an den meisten Diskussionen nicht teil, weil ich Angst hab, mir das Wiki dadurch verderben zu lassen.
* [[Talk:Outer Path#Abilities]]
 
Thanks in advance. =) [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 17:15, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== 588 ==
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Auch wenn wir bis jetzt nicht so viel miteinander zu tun hatten bitte ich dich, die Sache mit dem Aufhören nochmal zu überdenken. Immerhin bist du meiner Meinung nach eine der wenigen Personen hier mit einem gesunden Menschenverstand, ganz zu schweigen von deinen Japanisch-Kenntnissen. Dein Verlassen wäre ein Verlust für das Wiki, ganz sicher! [[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 23:03, September 7, 2014 (UTC)
   
When you get your hands in a raw, could you translate what Madara says in the bottom right panel, right after being hit by the Dust Release? Mangastream and Mangareader translations are wildly different. If reader is right, there's a potential weakness of Susanoo to be listed, being inside it makes the user slower. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:44, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
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== Re: I'd like you to ==
:For the same reason, i.e. conflictions in the translations, could you also please translate what both Mei and Ōnoki say as Madara is being sealed [http://raw.narutoverse.org/Raw/588/narutoverse16/ here]? [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 17:05, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
::I think you're putting way too much confidence in my translation skills. I am honoured by that, but I doubt my translations are going to be as good as Suki-senpai's. Nevertheless, I'll give it a try today and tomorrow. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:45, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Madara: 「スサノオを出していた分塵遁の吸収が間に合わなかっただ···」 ''"Susanoo o dashiteita Bun Jinton no Kyūshū ga maniowa nakatta da..."''.
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Request denied. You're upset that's understandable. You want to leave, that is understandable. But I'm not going to encourage this kind of response by banning you and keeping you from coming back if you calm down and decide you want to come back.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:53, September 8, 2014 (UTC)
:I think it's something like ''"The parts that put out Susanoo couldn't use the Jinton absorption in time..."''. I think he meant ''Bunshin'', but there's a Kanji missing. At least that's what it looks like to me.
 
   
Mei: 「砂 がイヤなら術の吸収を止めればいいのよ ま···そしたら雷水龍弾でしびれちゃって動けないけど」 ''"Suna ga iya nara Jutsu no Kyūshū o tomereba iinoyo. Ma...soshitara Raisuiryūdan de shibirechatte ugokenai kedo"''
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Your a great addition to this wiki and deep down i don't think anyone wants you to leave. The wiki needs you. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 17:38, September 8, 2014 (UTC)
:Should be something like ''"It's okay if the sand isn't enough to stop the Jutsu absorption. But his movements will be numbed by the Lightning Water Dragon Bullet then"''
 
   
Ōnoki: 「そのスキにワシが塵遁をかます! そうならば封印する時間は充分じゃぜ」 ''"Sono suki ni washi ga Jinton o kamasu! naraba fūinsuru Jikan wa jūbun jaze"''
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Seelentau-san, what's going on?! I was held at school, so I couldn't come on the wiki until now, but from what I understand, you're leaving? Why?! The wiki needs, and I'll be really sad if you leave. :(--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 02:26, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
:Should be something like ''"I will force Jinton in that gap! If that's the case there's enough time to seal him"''
 
   
There we go. As I said, don't take them for perfect, they're just my own translations. They're as nonvalid as everyone elses. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:10, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
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== Apology & Question ==
   
:Thanks Seelentau, your help is much appreciated and it clarified/resolved exactly what I was after. [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 16:31, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
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So, first, I would like you to know that, though I disagreed venomously with your analysis of the Jiton (and still do), I do not harbor any ill will towards you. I'm glad you decided to stick around because, truth be told, you were right about one thing: you are a pretty unbias reader of the series. Doesn't mean I agree with some of your explanations, but I'd be wrong not to say as much. I never wanted to drive you from the wiki because, as many others have expressed, you are very much needed here and it would truly be a loss for the wiki without you around. If you still dislike me, well, I can't help that, but I do want to extend to you an sincere apology for letting my frustration with everything get the best of me. I miss the days when we, as a site, could sit down and discuss conflicting ideas without feeling the burning desire to tear each other's throats out and I know you feel the same.
   
Does anyone know if SSS (3x "s" Omni - ShounenSukiSensei of course) plan on coming back ? : ( --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:17, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
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That being said, I have an honest question for you in regards to the Gudōdama. We're both aware of how contentious that debate is, and the fact of the matter is, we're banging our heads into a wall over some fairly simple questions. It is my belief that Kishimoto finally gave us the natures for the Gudōdama (regardless of the user; the technique itself) with Black Zetsu's remark. I realize that some disagree with me on this point, and you might too, which is the point of my question:
:I don't know about the others, but since I don't have any way to contact Suki-sensei, I don't know about his status. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:02, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Would you mind writing out and translating Itachi's genjutsu command to Kabuto? [[Special:Contributions/64.134.191.42|64.134.191.42]] ([[User talk:64.134.191.42|talk]]) 03:17, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
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''After examining the RAW of Black Zetsu's text, and knowing what previous characters have said in regards to the Truth-Seeking Balls, do you think that ''solid'' manga evidence suggests that each user's Gudōdama is of a different and unique composition? Or do you think that the technique, like any other technique, is composed of the exact same elements?''
:What exactly do you mean? The hand signs? They're correct in mangapanda's version. It seems like Kabuto was lying to Tobi about them. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 05:05, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Sorry, I meant this one: [http://raw.narutoverse.org/Raw/588/narutoverse03/]. [[Special:Contributions/76.173.61.174|76.173.61.174]] ([[User talk:76.173.61.174|talk]]) 00:23, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
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That question seems to be the only one keeping us from finally putting this whole TSB debate behind us once and for all. Let me be clear, I don't care either way. I have my beliefs, but if the manga says something, we obviously need to document it. If its still too ambiguous, we wait, but recently it was decided that every user had the same natures except Naruto, whom the consensus said should have every nature but Yin-Yang, due to a few user's absolute refusal to believe he can use them. I just want the issue behind us. So, regarding that question, what is your thoughts? (And for any third party reading this, please don't butt in. Its rude to barge into other's conversations.) ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 23:06, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
   
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: I suppose the only logical thing to do then is to wait, and, as you said, record what we know. Madara did say something about being surprised that Naruto wasn't erased when he blocked his Gudōdama, and thought that it might have something to do with him being heavily wounded (having not noticed his senjutsu enhancement yet), so I assume that means his can too. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 23:40, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
Hello Seelentau, does "Tokoyomi" (常世見) mean "looking into eternity" or "looking into the land of the dead"? -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- 02:47, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Thanks :) -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- 17:10, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== [[Forbidden Words]] Kanji ==
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:: I believe the evidence is there for Jiton. Using context clues and making an assumption are two different things. With the TSB, I understand the convolution, but there really is nothing like that for Gaara, Shukaku, and the other Jiton users. If you go back and read all of related chapters (even some of Gaara's words in his fight with Kimimaro) its quite apparent that's what Kishi intended. TheUltimate3 and the others have a valid point when they say Kishimoto won't tell us everything. Like any author, he's going to assume that we have the necessary material to put two and two together to get four. In areas where its murky (I believe that 3 out of 4 users of TSB having consistently all the same thing isn't murky, but I can see why you and others do), we can just do our best and record only what has been flat out told to us, but in areas where its pretty much obvious, we need to be readers, no Kishi's editors, and do the math. That's just my opinion though. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 00:33, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
I copy/pasted the Kanji for the latest episode from Wikipedia, but I think it's wrong. Can you confirm? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 10:54, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:Ya, when I saw the episode, I saw the NG in the subtitles. Thanks! :) --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:07, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
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::: Its pretty simple: does the manga support it, or is the evidence too flimsy to hold up? If someone can show me page, after page, after page, after chapter, after interview, after quote, etc, ect, that something is a certain way in the manga and it all holds up: add it. There's nothing wrong with that. Jiton is one example of that. When Gaara's father displayed the ''exact same rings'' as his son in his eyes, Kishi was basically handing us that information on a platter, regardless of whether we think so or not. If weren't a contributor to this wiki, and was just reading this manga to myself, that would've been an "''Aha!''" moment for me, because I'm the type of reader who will connect information. That's part of reading a story like this and its enjoyable when the author wants you to notice something rather than slap you in the face with information all the time. Sometimes, they want you to find it yourself, and I have fun looking for it. But if someone tells me that Sasuke has Hashirama's cells, for example (this was an actual argument), just because Kabuto said he used his studies of Hashirama's cells to heal him, and that's the ''only evidence they give me'', I'm going to wave them off and call crap on it.
   
== Little Finger/Toe Absolute Attack ==
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::: That's why I, personally, wasn't involving Science in the Jiton debate (yes, I know others were). Kishi says he sucks at Science. We don't know how much he sucks (he obviously thought that Sakura's method of keeping Naruto alive was legit, for example; it wasn't. Punched through a rib and a lung scientifically), so its an assumption to say he'd even know what diamagnetism is. To him, it literally could've been as simple as "Hey, I want [insert Jiton user here] to magnetize this!" and that's it. But the manga itself held up, in my view, consistently. So to answer your question in one concerted effort: Where do we draw the line? If the manga supports it, and we can give enough references to back it up, add it. If it doesn't hold up or the references are too flimsy to use? Wait. That's how I see it. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 01:00, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
Could you please take a look at [[Talk:Little Finger Absolute Attack|this discussion]]? Given where Guy actually attacks, it seems more appropriate to name the [[Little Finger Absolute Attack|technique]] "''Little Toe Absolute Attack''", as long as the Japanese allows for that of course. [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 00:06, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
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:::: That's where consensus comes in. Its one thing if one or two people are seeing the same thing. If three, four, five people are all seeing the same thing based on the same evidence, you've got one of two things going on: mass hysteria, which is unlikely, or something legitimate is being presented. I mean, the consensus, prior to your analysis on Jiton, was literally unanimous. Even in the recent debates, I only saw Elveonora and Munch (can never say his full username) that still saw things similarly to you (Elve had his own ideas, but that's getting more and more common lately). And what's more, we were all seeing the same evidence. The same consistency. The same patterns and the same context clues. In those cases, consensus is our best option. If there isn't one, then obviously the evidence is too flimsy. You'll see me doing the same thing. Where I'm on the fence with something, or want to believe something, but the current evidence just doesn't hold up, so I'll ask to wait on it. I have no problem waiting when the information isn't there. Its when we literally have the answer ''right in front of us'' and we're screaming at each other over the stupidest technicalities that I start having issues. As for "grasping for straws", I shouldn't have jumped on that bandwagon, and I apologize. I let my frustration get the better of me. But there are cases of that. The debate on whether or not Naruto could use certain elements through his connection to the Bijū, for example. We had ''one user'' who just refused to let it go through and was even reverting the edits once the decision was made out of nothing more than his own stubbornness to give in. ''That'' is grasping for straws and when that happens, we obviously need to deal with the user in question, because that's a person problem, not a wiki issue. So, yes, it was wrong of me to accuse you of that. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 01:28, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
== 593 ==
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::::: If the manga supports it? Absolutely. Kishi may retcon or correct facts later, but you can't tell a group of users who have reference after reference from the manga supporting their argument that they are wrong. Their basis is the manga. No different from anything else we add on this wiki. I mean, if we can't use the manga to prove our points, and get stuff done around here, we might as well lock the entire wiki until the series ends and the last databook comes out. We have to do something, Seel. Its not like we're saying, okay, add whatever you want to the wiki! We're saying, "If you have credible, consistent (direct confirmation works too, obviously) and the consensus sees it, then we add it. If you don't, we wait." That's not a bad system. It literally requires manga evidence, which is what you want in the first place, correct? Like I said, Kishimoto isn't going to tell us everything on a neon billboard. No author anywhere does that, so we shouldn't expect him too either. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 02:09, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
schaust du bitte nochmal [[Talk:Orochimaru's Revival|hier]] bei stuff rein und gibst deine meinung. [[User:Johnny182|<font color="#FF7F00">'''Johnny/ジョニー'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Johnny182|<font color="#00008B">'''(talk)'''</font>]]</sup>
 
   
== Binding Genjutsu ==
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== Sorry to butt in... ==
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But I had to tell you this. I overlooked your messaging with TTF, and you asked if Madara ever negated something with his TSBs. He did actually, in chapter 665, page 12 when he cut off Minato's left arm with his TSB. Minato's left arm never grew back, just like Obito did with Minato's right arm. So yeah, Madara's TSB also has Yin-Yang Release. Again, didn't mean to butt in and be rude, that's why I created a separate headline on your page, but I was just trying to help. :) Glad you haven't left the wiki, that would have been a blow to Narutopedia. --[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 00:22, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
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:Of course they do, Madara is a known YYR user since he had told Obito he would teach him just that--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 09:25, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
Could you please give your opinion on this translation: {{translation|'''Binding Genjutsu'''|金縛りの幻術|kanashibari no genjutsu}}? It's a term Orochimaru uses to describe Itachi's [[Demonic Illusion: Shackling Stakes Technique]]. [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 22:45, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
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== SPS&Rinnegan ==
:Thanks once again, I actually asked because [http://tangorin.com/#general/%E9%87%91%E7%B8%9B%E3%82%8A tangorin] had it as either ''binding'' or ''temporary paralysis'', so it was fortunate that I asked you because I had no idea there was already such a similarly named technique. [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 23:09, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
==Gaara's name==
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Not entirely:
Hey there Seelentau, can Gaara's name translate into "I only love myself. I'm a demon."? "Ga 我" (meaning I or me), "A 愛" (more commonly "Ai" meaning love), and "Ra 羅" (meaning a demon). -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- 03:03, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
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* both Naruto and Sasuke received power from Hagoromo which allowed them to awake SPST and Rinnegan respectively (I originally thought it was because of Hashirama stuff alone), so having 9TBs chakras by itself wouldn't give him SPST without Hagoromo's touch--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:33, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
:Thanks :) -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- 11:03, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Chapter 596 ==
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I mean latest chapter made it clear that Hagoromo has to do with their SPST and Rinnegan (so the tattoos weren't the only things he gave them) but Hagoromo didn't give Naruto TB chakra, they themselves did and Obito did the remaining 2. So whatever Hagoromo gave Naruto is the "missing piece" to the puzzle.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:18, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
So, I recently added the kanji and rōmaji to this chapter, and moved from "jutsu" to "technique". Considering that the main point of this chapter was Kakashi's determination that Tobi's warping and intangibility are the same technique, would it be more accurate to translate this chapter's title as "A Single Technique", as in "he uses a single technique"? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:06, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
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Talk about coincidental timing 0_0 we messaged each other at the same time :P
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And yes, latest chapter makes it seem Hagoromo has to do with their powers, but you may figure out otherwise once you get your hands on the raw or so. And even though Madara didn't meet Hagoromo, he was TT jinch. TT is 9TB + x, the 'x' being what allows Six Paths Sage Technique--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:21, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
== UNS3 character videos ==
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Hagoromo said that giving power only to one of them resulted in Ashura and Indra rivalry, giving power to both Naruto and Sasuke didn't fix it tho. So if the only power Hagoromo gave to Naruto and Sasuke were the tattoos, then either Ashura or Indra must have had one or both tattoos as well. Unless he was talking about different thing than the tattoos--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:27, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
A few videos were [http://www.saiyanisland.com/2012/08/darui-mifune-hanzo-gameplay-naruto-storm-3/ released], showing footage of new characters in action. Hanzō and Mifune's techniques can be seen. I think I managed to get Hanzō's, which appears to be {{translation|"Exploding Circle"|爆円陣|Bakuenjin}}, but I can't crack down Mifune's. I already created an article on Hanzō's technique, but could you confirm it and see if you can get Mifune's? Thanks.{{unsigned|Omnibender|03:04, August 15, 2012 (UTC)}}
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Yes, Indra was already born with strong chakra and Ashura's eventually matured/bloomed as time went on. But birth inheritance isn't gift, unless Hagoromo created Ashura weak and Indra strong with Creation of All Things. So I suppose what the original gift refers to is Ashura's "battle avatar" Hagoromo likely gave Ashura Six Paths Senjutsu. Indra wasn't given anything, thus had only Sharingan. This time around, Hagoromo not only has given Ashura's incarnate Six Paths Senjutsu, but Rinnegan to Indra's incarnate as well. This way it makes sense--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:42, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
== 598 ==
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But Ashura eventually became equal to Indra. Hagoromo says giving power to one caused rivalry, so that doesn't seem like it refers to one of them having been born stronger. Hagoromo had no input about how their genes would turn out. Also I believe in an older chapter this is referenced and Hagoromo says he gave power to Ashura, so giving power to Ashura made him stronger than Indra thus caused trouble and as such can't refer to their birth inheritance, since Ashura was the weaker one originally. But you are the translator, so you may know better--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:52, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
I got 598's kanji and rōmaji. Could you see the translation? I've added them to the chapter article. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:02, August 24, 2012 (UTC)
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So Hagoromo gave Naruto and Sasuke successorship to Ninshu? That's it, Hagoromo made a clear parallel between giving power to Naruto and Sasuke and having given power just to Ashura--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:12, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
==?==
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Yes, I think in the latest chapter. But you may want to take this to relevant talkpage for everyone to chime in.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:18, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
Hi Seelentau, I need your help; Does (の王) mean "Kings" and does (境界線) mean "Set me free"? -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- <small>Sep 1, 2012 <sub>@</sub> 05:32 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
 
:Thanks ^_^ -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- <small>Sep 1, 2012 <sub>@</sub> 09:07 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
 
   
==Pictures==
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== Six Paths for Kaguya ==
Hey Seelentau, I need your help again ^_^ heh. Do you know what the Kanji in [http://theprojectk.tumblr.com/post/30598471124/100days-official-site-k-0067-download-for-a this] [http://theprojectk.tumblr.com/post/30656339171/100days-official-site-k-0069-download-for-a this] [http://theprojectk.tumblr.com/post/30598452079/100days-official-site-k-0066-download-for-a this] and [http://theprojectk.tumblr.com/post/29724537890/100days-official-site-k-0052-late this] mean? -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- <small>Sep 2, 2012 <sub>@</sub> 10:01 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
 
:Thanks a ton :). -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- <small>Sep 2, 2012 <sub>@</sub> 10:28 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
 
   
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I thought it was agreed that Kaguya has no involvement to the Six Paths or any related techniques.—[[User:Steveo920|Steveo920]] [[User talk:Steveo920|(Talk)]] 10:05, September 11, 2014
   
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I believe it was during the discussion of the Truth-Seeking Balls.—[[User:Steveo920|Steveo920]] [[User talk:Steveo920|(Talk)]] 10:11 September 11, 2014
   
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== stuff ==
   
== Translation Please ==
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Rikudou Rod etc. were also used I believe, but by Naruto and he likes to give weird nicknames.
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In my honest opinion "six paths" simply means Hagoromo, thus six path's means Hagoromo's.
   
Hello Seelentau, could you give me the literal translation of 饿乐廻廊 please? It's a technique from a manga i like that's databook recently came out, and no one has been able to properly translate it yet so i figured i'd come to you seeing as to how you are one of the main translators here. Thank you.[[Special:Contributions/71.71.58.70|71.71.58.70]] ([[User talk:71.71.58.70|talk]]) 07:01, September 12, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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* Hagoromo's Senjutsu (his Senjutsu)
:Sorry, I don't speak Chinese, so I'm not able to translate 饿乐. 廻廊, however, means ''kairō'', which is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kair%C5%8D this]. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:15, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
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* Hagoromo's Chakra (his chakra)
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* Hagoromo's Power (his power, unspecified)
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* Hagoromo's Yin Power/Yang Power (his power, specified)
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* Hagoromo's Chibaku Tensei (specialized version of the technique)
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* Hagoromo's Technique (his personal technique with the Rinnegan)--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:31, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
I'm sorry i didn't know that it was chinese, which is weird considering that it's a japanese manga. Thank you for trying though.[[Special:Contributions/71.71.58.70|71.71.58.70]] ([[User talk:71.71.58.70|talk]]) 15:24, September 12, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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Yes. But within the context of what we know, all six paths stuff = hagoromo stuff. There's no way to figure why he is six paths and what it is tho. We may need a databook for that. And I think your list should be complete, I don't recall any other six paths good job--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:06, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
:Where did you get that name from? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:30, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
From a raw scan of a page from the book on a site that releases newly trans/scanlated parts of the book.[[Special:Contributions/71.71.58.70|71.71.58.70]] ([[User talk:71.71.58.70|talk]]) 16:41, September 12, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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You did, but honestly, half the terms most likely refer to the same thing. Also in case you would, then be so nice and give some input to these:
:eh, could you please show me the frame/panel where the Kanji are shown? I'm sure you just made a mistake finding the correct Kanji, since they originate in the Chinese language and look similar often. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:59, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
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* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Nature_Transformation#Something
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* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Naruto_Uzumaki#So_just_as_I_was_saying
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* http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Naruto_Uzumaki#kekkei_mora
   
== Uchihagaeshi ==
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Thanks in advance. The first, Six Paths Yin/Yang Powers were never called Yin and Yang nature releases, were they? The second, I believe you also know that Naruto is just a pseudo jinchuuriki of 1-8 TBs and not a full one. The third, is Naruto even an user of kekkei mora? He asks the Tailed Beasts for the natures, so he doesn't know how to use them himself. Therefore I think it's nonsensical that he has the ability to merge all natures that he can't even use, not to mention it has a genetic vibe to it, therefore in my opinion only Kaguya and Hagoromo should be considered users, not her jinchuuriki--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:17, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
<s>Now that we have the confirmed kanji/kana, would you mind giving your input on the translation of {{translation|[[Return of the Uchiha|Uchihagaeshi]]|うちは返し|}}? While "''Return of the Uchiha''" seems acceptable, I feel something simpler like "''Uchiha Reversal''" (which has connotations to certain martial arts moves) would be more fitting, though input from someone with actual knowledge of Japanese would be much appreciated. [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 17:01, September 14, 2012 (UTC)</s>
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That's understandable, but man, If I had to count how many times I wanted to almost leave the wiki ... :P But what would this place be without me, right? :D Anyway:
:Neve rmind, I found that "返し" is also used in {{translation|[[Earth Release: Earth Shore Return]]|土遁・土陸返し|Doton: Doroku Gaeshi}}, so in order to remain consistent to that format, the technique should be named "''Uchiha Return''". [[User:Blackstar1|Blackstar1]] ([[User talk:Blackstar1|talk]]) 17:27, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
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* I guess you are right. Although that's the reason why I'm wondering, are there things such as Six Paths Yin/Yang Release? :O
::I was about to answer, but the article got moved around I got confused by it. Would've chosen something like ''retribution'', but nevermind. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:30, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
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And funny you mention that. The term pseudo worked just fine, until certain people changed it as they deemed fit with "logic" that "when chakra talks, they are full jinchuuriki" or so, like wtf. But I don't think you should be quiet about this, once the raw comes out and it implies that the Tailed Beasts aren't truly within Naruto, then you should let people know.
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And I know. Fact is, our beliefs are to be put in line soon, very soon... as soon as Naruto's TSB clashes with Sasuke or his technique ;) I admit that there's a chance we are wrong, but in my opinion more things imply his aren't all natures. So if we turn out to be wrong, then I will personally apologize to everyone I disagreed with and leave with a tail in between my legs--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:51, September 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Jinchuriki Six Paths ==
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== Your opinions on stuff ==
   
When they're first shown with Sharingan and Rinnegan, what exactly does Obito say regarding them having the eyes? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:01, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
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I just wanted to say that I completely agree and support all the stuff you say. i agree with your opinion's on magnet release too. Just wanted to let you know that your not the only user that doesnt agree with all the bull shit that gets added. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 00:10, September 12, 2014 (UTC)
:Last pages of chapter 544. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:43, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
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:Butting in :P the thing is, it shouldn't be about an agreement to begin with. If millions of people decide to agree about something that's just plain wrong, it won't become right anywhere but in their own heads. And even if they are right, they still are making an assumption (even if true) thus are jumping the gun, before it's actually known to be true.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:04, September 12, 2014 (UTC)
::About a week ago, on the 4th this month, someone changed that the eyes had been implanted into the hosts, using this as an edit summary: "bad trans, implantation was never mentioned, also, it's impossible to change ET physical state". I don't recall if the splash text appears in the volume version, but is there any mention of implantation in what Obito says? Is his word actually "customised" or something for that effect? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:22, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Black Hunting ==
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== Help ==
   
In Darui's [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLE3cBMouj0 gameplay promo] at 0:55, he performs Storm Release: Black Hunting. Unfortunately, this video doesn't have the subtitles, like the English demo did, so we don't have kanji on it, but the sound is clear enough to get his pronunciation. Can you get the rōmaji? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:22, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
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How do i make articles that don't have a template like for example an article on a book not the volume? [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 18:13, September 13, 2014 (UTC)
:Kanji are probably involved, but since the only videos with subtitles available so far are in English, no kanji. We'll probably get them soon or later. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:25, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== A Translation please ==
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no offense taken and i was gonna create articles for the three anime profiles books. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 18:16, September 13, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hello Sempai...i was wondering if you could translate a part of chapter 606 in page 15, the part where Madara talks about his chakra rods and how Obito should use it for the "Rikudo no Jutsu"...was he talking to the Six Paths of Pain or something else? Thank you in advance. [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 18:30, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
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== Six Paths ==
   
== Ameyuri ==
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In the chapter that Naruto seals Madara's shadows in, he refers to the black rods as the "Sage's Rods". I don't know if that means anything or what the RAW's actually say, but I thought I'd bring that to your attention. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 01:58, September 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
In this week's episode, subs used male pronouns to refer to Ameyuri. Could you check the episode to see if the Japanese actually meant Ameyuri to be a male or if all that was used was gender-neutral pronouns? I think we might have a Kurama case again. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 03:44, October 19, 2012 (UTC)
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== Re: Names ==
   
== Re: Problem with articles ==
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I know how and where to look. Currently from [http://senki.kusakage.com/tuika.htm here] and [http://giocox.jp/naruto-r/ here]. I expect both to get more names as the days go by. The links on the first I can only read right when I get Google's cached version, I just look for a video game technique I know they have. Second link will have more movesets as the days go by as well. I got most of the Storm 2, Generations and Storm 3 from their Storm 3 site over at the enormous list I have at [[Forum:Video game jutsu overhaul/sub]]. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:38, September 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
I have no idea of what's happening. Usual trick is cleaning the cache. Does this happen to you in other wikis, or other browsers. If it's something specific to your account, I'd suspect of a custom js script, but I have no idea if you have any. Your best shot as far as I can see is to [[Special:Contact|contact Wikia]] and report a bug. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:25, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
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== not very serious, just bored ==
   
== Monga's technique ==
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Yet, I've been thinking... most Root remembers were orphans, right? Iruka is an orphan.
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The guy in the [http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5287/5287266a17eba8f2e49e4bf5ad5f7f8a279e478.jpg background] looks just like Iruka and I presume that that's [[Hyo]] under the mask. So both orphans, same scar, same hairstyle and hair color, same eye color... same person? :O Too bad it doesn't work since Hyo is 21 years old, rait? T_T--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:26, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
Could you give the name to his technique (latest episode, 7:55)--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 21:33, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
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== Outer Path Fact-Checking ==
:Thanks.--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 22:14, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Considering the spears are thin and long, is there any change the the "dake" in the name is he kanji for bamboo instead? Japanese Wikipedia added it as 土遁・土石筍. Could also be 土遁・土石竹. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:32, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Yup, but I thought they wouldn't choose that name... well then, it's 土遁・土石筍, of course ^^ [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 05:07, October 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::What would be the translation then? Earth Release: Earth and Stone Bamboo Shoot? Earth Release: Earth Stalagmite? I see that 石筍 is the word for stalagmite, but the pronunciation in the technique isn't "sekijun". That's something that'll probably be added to a trivia section though. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:09, October 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::''Earth Release: Earth and Stone Bamboo Shoot'' and a Trivia which explains the pun would be the best. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:15, October 28, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
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Hey, I was wondering if you could translate a few things related to the Outer Path abilities when you get a chance.
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* Chapter 565, pages 6 and 10 - Do these seem to attribute the connected vision to Gedō or just controlling corpses with chakra? (The article currently states both are derived from Gedō).
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* Chapter 569, page 2 - Does Obito actually say he'll drag Four-Tails and Naruto inside of himself? This isn't documented anywhere on the wiki, as far as I can tell.
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* Same chapter, page 10 - What does Obito say about his and Nagato's binding power? Is this sufficient evidence that both the chakra receivers and chains are Gedō powers? We currently list the latter as one but not the former, using this page as evidence. (And yes, I'm fully aware that Madara created receivers without the Rinnegan in one instance).
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Thanks.--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 23:49, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
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Sorry for butting in, but I'm also interested in the Outer Path's connection to the "Gedo Mazo". I remember that you already explained this somewhere, but I can't find the topic.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 09:49, September 17, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Another translation please ==
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== Translation requests ==
   
Hello again, i'm very sorry to bother you, and i'm hoping to god that this is not chinese, but can you give me the romanization and translation of this ウルざくろ. Again i hope to god this isn't chinese (it so hard for me to tell), but i found some raw scans and i have no idea how a japanese manga could have chinese raw scans. Anyway thank you for your time.[[Special:Contributions/98.26.246.74|98.26.246.74]] ([[User talk:98.26.246.74|talk]]) 02:38, October 31, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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Can you translate these two pages for me??
:ウルざくろ ''Uru Zakuro''. It seems to be a name of a character or so, because ''Uru'' has no meaning, while ざくろ could refer to the [[Wikipedia:Pomegranate|Pomegranate]]. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:48, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Thank you very much. Um kinda last minute but there was another word-ish that i went to several sources and they all gave me diferent answers, and considering that your a notable translator i wonder if you could straighten this out. The word is 模倣, at first i got Mōzō and later it was called Utsutsu, and the transalation they gave me was imitation/mimicry/copy, what do you get for it? Again this the last time, and i really don't mean to bother you.[[Special:Contributions/98.26.246.74|98.26.246.74]] ([[User talk:98.26.246.74|talk]]) 19:04, November 1, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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http://blog.pierrot.jp/wp-content/uploads/blog.pierrot.jp/2014/05/%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BF%E3%83%81%EF%BC%88%E6%9C%A8%E3%83%8E%E8%91%89%E6%99%82%E4%BB%A3%EF%BC%89%E3%81%AE%E3%82%B3%E3%83%94%E3%83%BC.jpg
:No problem at all. 模倣 is read as ''mohō'' and means ''imitation'' or ''copying''. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:08, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Thank you so much.[[Special:Contributions/98.26.246.74|98.26.246.74]] ([[User talk:98.26.246.74|talk]]) 19:15, November 1, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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http://blog.pierrot.jp/wp-content/uploads/blog.pierrot.jp/2014/06/%E3%82%B5%E3%82%B9%E3%82%B1%E3%81%AE%E4%B8%A1%E8%A6%AA.jpg [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 01:56, September 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
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== Sasuke and Kakashi Character Scans Translations? ==
   
I swear to God last time, since i can't find any other translators as good as you. I finally found the last of the raws, the first one is 餓樂廻廊 (the romanji that i got was and create me if i'm wrong, Kamawariro and have no idea what it means). The other was 融合 which i think is Yūgō and the translations of it i got were fusion/merge and another one said it meant polymerization. The last was 生体融合, which i got was Seitai yūgō, and translations of it i found were Living body fusion/ Biological fusion. I really am sorry to keep bothering you, but i was suppossed to get these back to someone.[[Special:Contributions/98.26.246.74|98.26.246.74]] ([[User talk:98.26.246.74|talk]]) 19:01, November 4, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
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Hello Seelentau-Senpai! How are you today? When you find the time, can you please translate the new scan of Sasuke and Kakashi's character design for the new movie? I've heard some rumors that it says Sasuke has turned good and Kakashi is Hokage, and also that starting in October, we will get new teasers of the movie with every new Naruto Shippuden episode. Can you please confirm or deny these rumors, as well as let me (us) know any other information the scan provides? Thanks a bunch- have a nice day! --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 23:43, September 19, 2014 (UTC)
 
*餓樂廻廊 ''Garaku Kairō'' or ''Gakaku Kairō'' or ''Gagō Kairō'' literally means ''Starve Music Corridor''
 
*生体 ''Seitai'' means ''organism''
 
*融合 ''Yūgō'' means ''agglutination'' or ''fusion'', as you said
 
[[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:06, November 4, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Thank you very much.[[Special:Contributions/98.26.246.74|98.26.246.74]] ([[User talk:98.26.246.74|talk]]) 20:12, November 4, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
 
 
== Some video game translations ==
 
 
My making a couple educated lookups, I managed finding a few stuff on a video game. I recently added the kanji for [[Jibakugan]], though I have no idea of how to give a literal translation to that. [http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/psp_naruto_accel3/game04.html Here] in the game's official page, there are the names of most of the antagonists, which we currently don't have as kanji, as well as their name. I'm not sure, but it seems they're supposed to be some sort of non-Konoha leaf ANBU? And [http://www.uwants.com/viewthread.php?tid=9232085 here], the site is in Chinese, but it has two screenshots with technique names in Japanese. We already have articles for both of those techniques. There's another technique from that game, which someone had added romaji, and based on that and the English name, I added kanji, the [[Forbidden Technique: Mud Golem]]. In looking up the other two techniques, could you see if you managed finding if those kanji I added are actually correct? Many thanks. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:11, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
:We already have pages for the characters, they're supposed to be: Tsukino (not the name on the page, since that would be a spoiler for the game, I think), Hakui, Dōshin, and Shinga. Other than Tsukino, none of their names we have match the page. We have the wrong kanji for Hakui, and Dōshin and Shinga are like ドシン and シンガ. Just from glancing, I think the first kanji in Hakui's name is the same one used for Haku's name. Shinga's name appears to be written as "True Fang". The kanji for Jibakugan I managed finding, which can be seen on that page, is 自縛眼, though I have no idea how to literally translated 自縛 as something that would give a proper literal English name. Looking up those together, each of them inside quotes in Google should give some article where they're mentioned. The technique I mentioned I added kanji based on the romaji is 禁術・泥人形 Kinjutsu: Doro Ningyō. In the site with the images, we have articles on the fire rat technique and in the sealing technique, but we don't have kanji or romanji, just game English. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:27, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Episodes 286-287 translations ==
 
 
Hi Seelentau and how are you? I want to know the literal translations of Nigai's technique (雷鼠激震) and Karai's technique (雷撃) and finally the literal meaning of Nokizaru Troops (軒猿衆). Many thanks ^_^ —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 19:09, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
:That was so perfect, and BTW it's called Karai not Kirai. Thanks so much for your co-operation ^_^ —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 20:17, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Sorry for the disturbance, But I want to know the literal meaning of Nokizaru Troops' boss name (Himushi, ヒムシ) —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 20:26, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Would it be better to have Raigeki as "Lightning Strike"? It's a more accurate English term which means the same thing, and we already have a technique with Raigeki in it, Raiga's Lightning Strike Armour (Raigeki no Yoroi). [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:36, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
:mh, use whatever you deem to be more accurate. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 08:06, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== 288 Kenjutsu ==
 
 
So, kanji and rōmaji have already been added, probably from the Japanese Wikipedia article, but are the translations accurate? My looking up gives Kushimaru's as "Longsword Ninja Art: Earth Spider Sewing", and I'm not quite sure of what Jinpachi's is supposed to be. I can only translate "Blastsword Technique", but I can make sense of the rest. I only get explosion, but the last three kanji make it look weird. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:22, November 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Maybe it has to do with the movement of the sheet of explosive tags? They sort of made a semi-circle. Maybe that's supposed to look/act like a bridle? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:46, November 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Can you get the combo name Kakashi and Guy called them? Subs called it "Cold Blooded Combo" or something like that. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:30, November 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Sinful Lotus ==
 
 
I managed to find a video which shows the kanji of the game-only Boil Release, it's in that technique's talk page, but the quality is not that great, though in both the videos I found, you can hear the name of the technique well enough. Could you take a look at it? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:58, November 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
:When fighting her, she usually goes into her awakening when she mishears something Ao says. This technique is used usually the second time she enters in her awakened form. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:21, November 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== 289 techniques ==
 
 
Could you check on the translations for that episode? I believe most of them to be correct as far as I can check with tangorin, but I can't help to feel that one of Omoi's new kenjutsu, the one without Cloud Style in it, is improperly translated, seeing that it doesn't quite follow the standard of kenjutsu naming. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:57, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
:The "ura" part of it. It was previously translated as "reverse" in his canon kenjutsu. I'm also concerned about the fact the current translation is so similar to Kirigakure's translation. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:04, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Huh, I never noticed there was another kanji, different from the one used in Kirigakure. I always thought that "kasumi" was another reading of that kanji. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:03, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
 

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Verlassen des Wikis Edit

Bitte lass es nicht dazu kommen! Ich verstehe, warum du sauer bist, aber in manchen Fällen muss man einfach über die Ignoranz und Sturheit der anderen hinwegsehen, bis eine glasklare Antwort vom Mangaka kommt (am besten in Form eines neuen Databooks, wann immer das auch sein mag). Aus genau diesem Grund nehme ich an den meisten Diskussionen nicht teil, weil ich Angst hab, mir das Wiki dadurch verderben zu lassen.

Auch wenn wir bis jetzt nicht so viel miteinander zu tun hatten bitte ich dich, die Sache mit dem Aufhören nochmal zu überdenken. Immerhin bist du meiner Meinung nach eine der wenigen Personen hier mit einem gesunden Menschenverstand, ganz zu schweigen von deinen Japanisch-Kenntnissen. Dein Verlassen wäre ein Verlust für das Wiki, ganz sicher! Norleon (talk) 23:03, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re: I'd like you to Edit

Request denied. You're upset that's understandable. You want to leave, that is understandable. But I'm not going to encourage this kind of response by banning you and keeping you from coming back if you calm down and decide you want to come back.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 15:53, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Your a great addition to this wiki and deep down i don't think anyone wants you to leave. The wiki needs you. Munchvtec (talk) 17:38, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Seelentau-san, what's going on?! I was held at school, so I couldn't come on the wiki until now, but from what I understand, you're leaving? Why?! The wiki needs, and I'll be really sad if you leave. :(--NinjaSheik 02:26, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Apology & Question Edit

So, first, I would like you to know that, though I disagreed venomously with your analysis of the Jiton (and still do), I do not harbor any ill will towards you. I'm glad you decided to stick around because, truth be told, you were right about one thing: you are a pretty unbias reader of the series. Doesn't mean I agree with some of your explanations, but I'd be wrong not to say as much. I never wanted to drive you from the wiki because, as many others have expressed, you are very much needed here and it would truly be a loss for the wiki without you around. If you still dislike me, well, I can't help that, but I do want to extend to you an sincere apology for letting my frustration with everything get the best of me. I miss the days when we, as a site, could sit down and discuss conflicting ideas without feeling the burning desire to tear each other's throats out and I know you feel the same.

That being said, I have an honest question for you in regards to the Gudōdama. We're both aware of how contentious that debate is, and the fact of the matter is, we're banging our heads into a wall over some fairly simple questions. It is my belief that Kishimoto finally gave us the natures for the Gudōdama (regardless of the user; the technique itself) with Black Zetsu's remark. I realize that some disagree with me on this point, and you might too, which is the point of my question:

After examining the RAW of Black Zetsu's text, and knowing what previous characters have said in regards to the Truth-Seeking Balls, do you think that solid manga evidence suggests that each user's Gudōdama is of a different and unique composition? Or do you think that the technique, like any other technique, is composed of the exact same elements?

That question seems to be the only one keeping us from finally putting this whole TSB debate behind us once and for all. Let me be clear, I don't care either way. I have my beliefs, but if the manga says something, we obviously need to document it. If its still too ambiguous, we wait, but recently it was decided that every user had the same natures except Naruto, whom the consensus said should have every nature but Yin-Yang, due to a few user's absolute refusal to believe he can use them. I just want the issue behind us. So, regarding that question, what is your thoughts? (And for any third party reading this, please don't butt in. Its rude to barge into other's conversations.) ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 23:06, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

I suppose the only logical thing to do then is to wait, and, as you said, record what we know. Madara did say something about being surprised that Naruto wasn't erased when he blocked his Gudōdama, and thought that it might have something to do with him being heavily wounded (having not noticed his senjutsu enhancement yet), so I assume that means his can too. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 23:40, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
I believe the evidence is there for Jiton. Using context clues and making an assumption are two different things. With the TSB, I understand the convolution, but there really is nothing like that for Gaara, Shukaku, and the other Jiton users. If you go back and read all of related chapters (even some of Gaara's words in his fight with Kimimaro) its quite apparent that's what Kishi intended. TheUltimate3 and the others have a valid point when they say Kishimoto won't tell us everything. Like any author, he's going to assume that we have the necessary material to put two and two together to get four. In areas where its murky (I believe that 3 out of 4 users of TSB having consistently all the same thing isn't murky, but I can see why you and others do), we can just do our best and record only what has been flat out told to us, but in areas where its pretty much obvious, we need to be readers, no Kishi's editors, and do the math. That's just my opinion though. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 00:33, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
Its pretty simple: does the manga support it, or is the evidence too flimsy to hold up? If someone can show me page, after page, after page, after chapter, after interview, after quote, etc, ect, that something is a certain way in the manga and it all holds up: add it. There's nothing wrong with that. Jiton is one example of that. When Gaara's father displayed the exact same rings as his son in his eyes, Kishi was basically handing us that information on a platter, regardless of whether we think so or not. If weren't a contributor to this wiki, and was just reading this manga to myself, that would've been an "Aha!" moment for me, because I'm the type of reader who will connect information. That's part of reading a story like this and its enjoyable when the author wants you to notice something rather than slap you in the face with information all the time. Sometimes, they want you to find it yourself, and I have fun looking for it. But if someone tells me that Sasuke has Hashirama's cells, for example (this was an actual argument), just because Kabuto said he used his studies of Hashirama's cells to heal him, and that's the only evidence they give me, I'm going to wave them off and call crap on it.
That's why I, personally, wasn't involving Science in the Jiton debate (yes, I know others were). Kishi says he sucks at Science. We don't know how much he sucks (he obviously thought that Sakura's method of keeping Naruto alive was legit, for example; it wasn't. Punched through a rib and a lung scientifically), so its an assumption to say he'd even know what diamagnetism is. To him, it literally could've been as simple as "Hey, I want [insert Jiton user here] to magnetize this!" and that's it. But the manga itself held up, in my view, consistently. So to answer your question in one concerted effort: Where do we draw the line? If the manga supports it, and we can give enough references to back it up, add it. If it doesn't hold up or the references are too flimsy to use? Wait. That's how I see it. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 01:00, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
That's where consensus comes in. Its one thing if one or two people are seeing the same thing. If three, four, five people are all seeing the same thing based on the same evidence, you've got one of two things going on: mass hysteria, which is unlikely, or something legitimate is being presented. I mean, the consensus, prior to your analysis on Jiton, was literally unanimous. Even in the recent debates, I only saw Elveonora and Munch (can never say his full username) that still saw things similarly to you (Elve had his own ideas, but that's getting more and more common lately). And what's more, we were all seeing the same evidence. The same consistency. The same patterns and the same context clues. In those cases, consensus is our best option. If there isn't one, then obviously the evidence is too flimsy. You'll see me doing the same thing. Where I'm on the fence with something, or want to believe something, but the current evidence just doesn't hold up, so I'll ask to wait on it. I have no problem waiting when the information isn't there. Its when we literally have the answer right in front of us and we're screaming at each other over the stupidest technicalities that I start having issues. As for "grasping for straws", I shouldn't have jumped on that bandwagon, and I apologize. I let my frustration get the better of me. But there are cases of that. The debate on whether or not Naruto could use certain elements through his connection to the Bijū, for example. We had one user who just refused to let it go through and was even reverting the edits once the decision was made out of nothing more than his own stubbornness to give in. That is grasping for straws and when that happens, we obviously need to deal with the user in question, because that's a person problem, not a wiki issue. So, yes, it was wrong of me to accuse you of that. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 01:28, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
If the manga supports it? Absolutely. Kishi may retcon or correct facts later, but you can't tell a group of users who have reference after reference from the manga supporting their argument that they are wrong. Their basis is the manga. No different from anything else we add on this wiki. I mean, if we can't use the manga to prove our points, and get stuff done around here, we might as well lock the entire wiki until the series ends and the last databook comes out. We have to do something, Seel. Its not like we're saying, okay, add whatever you want to the wiki! We're saying, "If you have credible, consistent (direct confirmation works too, obviously) and the consensus sees it, then we add it. If you don't, we wait." That's not a bad system. It literally requires manga evidence, which is what you want in the first place, correct? Like I said, Kishimoto isn't going to tell us everything on a neon billboard. No author anywhere does that, so we shouldn't expect him too either. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 02:09, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in... Edit

But I had to tell you this. I overlooked your messaging with TTF, and you asked if Madara ever negated something with his TSBs. He did actually, in chapter 665, page 12 when he cut off Minato's left arm with his TSB. Minato's left arm never grew back, just like Obito did with Minato's right arm. So yeah, Madara's TSB also has Yin-Yang Release. Again, didn't mean to butt in and be rude, that's why I created a separate headline on your page, but I was just trying to help. :) Glad you haven't left the wiki, that would have been a blow to Narutopedia. --WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 00:22, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Of course they do, Madara is a known YYR user since he had told Obito he would teach him just that--Elveonora (talk) 09:25, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

SPS&Rinnegan Edit

Not entirely:

  • both Naruto and Sasuke received power from Hagoromo which allowed them to awake SPST and Rinnegan respectively (I originally thought it was because of Hashirama stuff alone), so having 9TBs chakras by itself wouldn't give him SPST without Hagoromo's touch--Elveonora (talk) 22:33, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

I mean latest chapter made it clear that Hagoromo has to do with their SPST and Rinnegan (so the tattoos weren't the only things he gave them) but Hagoromo didn't give Naruto TB chakra, they themselves did and Obito did the remaining 2. So whatever Hagoromo gave Naruto is the "missing piece" to the puzzle.--Elveonora (talk) 10:18, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Talk about coincidental timing 0_0 we messaged each other at the same time :P And yes, latest chapter makes it seem Hagoromo has to do with their powers, but you may figure out otherwise once you get your hands on the raw or so. And even though Madara didn't meet Hagoromo, he was TT jinch. TT is 9TB + x, the 'x' being what allows Six Paths Sage Technique--Elveonora (talk) 10:21, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Hagoromo said that giving power only to one of them resulted in Ashura and Indra rivalry, giving power to both Naruto and Sasuke didn't fix it tho. So if the only power Hagoromo gave to Naruto and Sasuke were the tattoos, then either Ashura or Indra must have had one or both tattoos as well. Unless he was talking about different thing than the tattoos--Elveonora (talk) 10:27, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, Indra was already born with strong chakra and Ashura's eventually matured/bloomed as time went on. But birth inheritance isn't gift, unless Hagoromo created Ashura weak and Indra strong with Creation of All Things. So I suppose what the original gift refers to is Ashura's "battle avatar" Hagoromo likely gave Ashura Six Paths Senjutsu. Indra wasn't given anything, thus had only Sharingan. This time around, Hagoromo not only has given Ashura's incarnate Six Paths Senjutsu, but Rinnegan to Indra's incarnate as well. This way it makes sense--Elveonora (talk) 10:42, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

But Ashura eventually became equal to Indra. Hagoromo says giving power to one caused rivalry, so that doesn't seem like it refers to one of them having been born stronger. Hagoromo had no input about how their genes would turn out. Also I believe in an older chapter this is referenced and Hagoromo says he gave power to Ashura, so giving power to Ashura made him stronger than Indra thus caused trouble and as such can't refer to their birth inheritance, since Ashura was the weaker one originally. But you are the translator, so you may know better--Elveonora (talk) 10:52, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

So Hagoromo gave Naruto and Sasuke successorship to Ninshu? That's it, Hagoromo made a clear parallel between giving power to Naruto and Sasuke and having given power just to Ashura--Elveonora (talk) 11:12, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I think in the latest chapter. But you may want to take this to relevant talkpage for everyone to chime in.--Elveonora (talk) 11:18, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Six Paths for Kaguya Edit

I thought it was agreed that Kaguya has no involvement to the Six Paths or any related techniques.—Steveo920 (Talk) 10:05, September 11, 2014

I believe it was during the discussion of the Truth-Seeking Balls.—Steveo920 (Talk) 10:11 September 11, 2014

stuff Edit

Rikudou Rod etc. were also used I believe, but by Naruto and he likes to give weird nicknames. In my honest opinion "six paths" simply means Hagoromo, thus six path's means Hagoromo's.

  • Hagoromo's Senjutsu (his Senjutsu)
  • Hagoromo's Chakra (his chakra)
  • Hagoromo's Power (his power, unspecified)
  • Hagoromo's Yin Power/Yang Power (his power, specified)
  • Hagoromo's Chibaku Tensei (specialized version of the technique)
  • Hagoromo's Technique (his personal technique with the Rinnegan)--Elveonora (talk) 20:31, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Yes. But within the context of what we know, all six paths stuff = hagoromo stuff. There's no way to figure why he is six paths and what it is tho. We may need a databook for that. And I think your list should be complete, I don't recall any other six paths good job--Elveonora (talk) 21:06, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

You did, but honestly, half the terms most likely refer to the same thing. Also in case you would, then be so nice and give some input to these:

Thanks in advance. The first, Six Paths Yin/Yang Powers were never called Yin and Yang nature releases, were they? The second, I believe you also know that Naruto is just a pseudo jinchuuriki of 1-8 TBs and not a full one. The third, is Naruto even an user of kekkei mora? He asks the Tailed Beasts for the natures, so he doesn't know how to use them himself. Therefore I think it's nonsensical that he has the ability to merge all natures that he can't even use, not to mention it has a genetic vibe to it, therefore in my opinion only Kaguya and Hagoromo should be considered users, not her jinchuuriki--Elveonora (talk) 21:17, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

That's understandable, but man, If I had to count how many times I wanted to almost leave the wiki ... :P But what would this place be without me, right? :D Anyway:

  • I guess you are right. Although that's the reason why I'm wondering, are there things such as Six Paths Yin/Yang Release? :O

And funny you mention that. The term pseudo worked just fine, until certain people changed it as they deemed fit with "logic" that "when chakra talks, they are full jinchuuriki" or so, like wtf. But I don't think you should be quiet about this, once the raw comes out and it implies that the Tailed Beasts aren't truly within Naruto, then you should let people know. And I know. Fact is, our beliefs are to be put in line soon, very soon... as soon as Naruto's TSB clashes with Sasuke or his technique ;) I admit that there's a chance we are wrong, but in my opinion more things imply his aren't all natures. So if we turn out to be wrong, then I will personally apologize to everyone I disagreed with and leave with a tail in between my legs--Elveonora (talk) 21:51, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Your opinions on stuff Edit

I just wanted to say that I completely agree and support all the stuff you say. i agree with your opinion's on magnet release too. Just wanted to let you know that your not the only user that doesnt agree with all the bull shit that gets added. Munchvtec (talk) 00:10, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Butting in :P the thing is, it shouldn't be about an agreement to begin with. If millions of people decide to agree about something that's just plain wrong, it won't become right anywhere but in their own heads. And even if they are right, they still are making an assumption (even if true) thus are jumping the gun, before it's actually known to be true.--Elveonora (talk) 12:04, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Help Edit

How do i make articles that don't have a template like for example an article on a book not the volume? Munchvtec (talk) 18:13, September 13, 2014 (UTC)

no offense taken and i was gonna create articles for the three anime profiles books. Munchvtec (talk) 18:16, September 13, 2014 (UTC)

Six Paths Edit

In the chapter that Naruto seals Madara's shadows in, he refers to the black rods as the "Sage's Rods". I don't know if that means anything or what the RAW's actually say, but I thought I'd bring that to your attention. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 01:58, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Names Edit

I know how and where to look. Currently from here and here. I expect both to get more names as the days go by. The links on the first I can only read right when I get Google's cached version, I just look for a video game technique I know they have. Second link will have more movesets as the days go by as well. I got most of the Storm 2, Generations and Storm 3 from their Storm 3 site over at the enormous list I have at Forum:Video game jutsu overhaul/sub. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:38, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

not very serious, just bored Edit

Yet, I've been thinking... most Root remembers were orphans, right? Iruka is an orphan. The guy in the background looks just like Iruka and I presume that that's Hyo under the mask. So both orphans, same scar, same hairstyle and hair color, same eye color... same person? :O Too bad it doesn't work since Hyo is 21 years old, rait? T_T--Elveonora (talk) 12:26, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Outer Path Fact-Checking Edit

Hey, I was wondering if you could translate a few things related to the Outer Path abilities when you get a chance.

  • Chapter 565, pages 6 and 10 - Do these seem to attribute the connected vision to Gedō or just controlling corpses with chakra? (The article currently states both are derived from Gedō).
  • Chapter 569, page 2 - Does Obito actually say he'll drag Four-Tails and Naruto inside of himself? This isn't documented anywhere on the wiki, as far as I can tell.
  • Same chapter, page 10 - What does Obito say about his and Nagato's binding power? Is this sufficient evidence that both the chakra receivers and chains are Gedō powers? We currently list the latter as one but not the former, using this page as evidence. (And yes, I'm fully aware that Madara created receivers without the Rinnegan in one instance).

Thanks.--BeyondRed (talk) 23:49, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for butting in, but I'm also interested in the Outer Path's connection to the "Gedo Mazo". I remember that you already explained this somewhere, but I can't find the topic.--Elveonora (talk) 09:49, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Translation requests Edit

Can you translate these two pages for me??

http://blog.pierrot.jp/wp-content/uploads/blog.pierrot.jp/2014/05/%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BF%E3%83%81%EF%BC%88%E6%9C%A8%E3%83%8E%E8%91%89%E6%99%82%E4%BB%A3%EF%BC%89%E3%81%AE%E3%82%B3%E3%83%94%E3%83%BC.jpg

http://blog.pierrot.jp/wp-content/uploads/blog.pierrot.jp/2014/06/%E3%82%B5%E3%82%B9%E3%82%B1%E3%81%AE%E4%B8%A1%E8%A6%AA.jpg ItachiWasAHero (talk) 01:56, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke and Kakashi Character Scans Translations? Edit

Hello Seelentau-Senpai! How are you today? When you find the time, can you please translate the new scan of Sasuke and Kakashi's character design for the new movie? I've heard some rumors that it says Sasuke has turned good and Kakashi is Hokage, and also that starting in October, we will get new teasers of the movie with every new Naruto Shippuden episode. Can you please confirm or deny these rumors, as well as let me (us) know any other information the scan provides? Thanks a bunch- have a nice day! --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 23:43, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

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