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== talkpage ==
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== Re: in theory ==
much better now! ;)[[Special:Contributions/79.223.85.106|79.223.85.106]] ([[User talk:79.223.85.106|talk]]) 16:33, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
:hey am I blocked now? your answer to this would be your 4k edit! :D[[Special:Contributions/79.223.68.89|79.223.68.89]] ([[User talk:79.223.68.89|talk]]) 18:22, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: a dumb question ==
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Yes. But if the enourmous use of Izanagi, which also requires Hashi's cells, is a fact, then there's of course the possibility that someone of those Uchiha knew how to use Kotoamatsukami. Either that or Itachi somehow knew it from Danzō. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:10, December 9, 2013 (UTC)
   
It [http://tangorin.com/general/秘伝 is] a word in Japanese. It's a word that is rarely used outside of fiction. You can see a few topics, including a very long topic about it at Hiden's talk page. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:32, March 17, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: Chapter 658 ==
   
==Edits==
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LOL xD Yeah, I liked those scenes and you know, I hope that the same guy who animated Chibaku Tensei's episode will animate this part as well. Also the last panel of this chapter was really outstanding, he ripped out the poor Zetsu's arm and restored his right eye like nothing. Really amazing... —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 15:25, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Elveonora, I just wanna to say that sorry about my edits. From now, Im gonna to mark them as minor edit. Greetings. [[User:Leo Hatake|Leo Hatake]] ([[User talk:Leo Hatake|talk]]) 16:35, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
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:Exactly, by the way .... Tomorrow we have an episode which the battle between Naruto and his group vs. Tobi reaches its climax, it'll be an incredible episode, don't miss it. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 15:35, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
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::I agree with every point that you mentioned. It's time for Madara to start dancing with harmonic feeling to revenge. The main question for this chapter is how Madara could activate his Susanoo without his eye? I wonder about that... —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 18:38, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
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:::Yes, no medical ninjutsu at all. As I recalled from his statement about Hashirama's ability to heal himself without using any seals. I think that Madara acquired some of those abilities from Hashirama besides gaining the senjutsu. As you know the Sage Mode helps its user to gain his strength so much as stated from Naruto's usage for Rasenshuriken and Kabuto's usage for his White Rage technique. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 15:11, December 13, 2013 (UTC)
   
== Re: With all due respect ==
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== Re: Obito VA ==
<blockquote>''Could you please stop addressing Fox's person directly all the time? This has nothing to do with me so I'm sorry for sticking nose into matters I'm not involved in, but it's getting awkward seeing you making it personal quite often. Take it elsewhere, it's kinda childish and this happens since him getting sysop rights.''</blockquote>
 
#I'm not making it personal, he is by constantly being aggressive with all my edits on this wiki.
 
#I'm not going to take it elsewhere, because this is an issue on this wiki and I want all users to see it. I haven't removed or asked other users to take their issues with me elsewhere have I ?
 
#I dislike him because of the fact he requested and got sysop permissions which is quite the opposite of how you are meant to get them. You get them by proving that you are a good editor, you don't get them just by asking. That is, in fact, completely against the Wikia's ideals as well.
 
I keep addressing him because he's the one making a big deal out of my concerns. I am making an opinion and he just takes apart my posts, misquotes words and takes everything I say out of context. I wouldn't have a problem with him if he didn't keep doing this. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 21:08, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
: Thank you for addressing that, Elve. Not to worry, I have a handle on the situation. If he continues with this, I'll simply take it to the other admins, or deal with it myself.~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 21:37, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
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Glad to agree with me, still we'll have to use this new voice and let's see how Takagi will deal with his new rule. And as you know, I'm be used to get excited for the anime more than the manga.... Madara, you saved the both of them in this week. [[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 11:50, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
   
: Meh, I'm laid back about things. I honestly don't have a problem with him. He's a productive editor. Anyone can see that. I don't know why he has a problem with me, and even if he does, he shouldn't drag the others into it. And yeah, I go inactive for times, and then get really active for times. I usually log on here when the new chapter come out, make my edits, and then log off. Occasionally, I'll make other edits, but I do like to contribute to the debates and discussions. Don't worry, it'll all work out in the end. He'll come around hopefully, and if he doesn't, I'll just drop it. No need to keep senseless arguments going. But again, thanks for your concern ^^ ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 21:49, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: tb question ==
   
== Re: creepy throat snake no jutsu ==
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It's confusing, I know. Even when Kurama took over Naruto, he spoke with his mind, not opening his mouth. I like that kind of speaking and I can't imagine an entity like a tailed beast to speak as "swift" as a human, using its lips and everything. So I go with the mind speaking. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:30, December 25, 2013 (UTC)
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:Dunno, I never really noticed it. You can't say how a human speaks just from drawings. So the weird kind of speaking without using the mouth is anime-only. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:04, December 25, 2013 (UTC)
   
If you feel one is necessary and the article can support it sure.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:56, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
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== You've see this?? ==
   
== Re: leaf village stuff ==
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Kabuto is 22 here, so he was 17 5 years ago. I guess you could fit this into your Kabuto timeline?? [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 17:48, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
Or, you could add it and if it needs work, it'll be worked on~ --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:11, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
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Try this one then [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 17:55, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
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kabuto sais it has been five years and sasori sais kabuto yakushi were you followed?[[User:Iloveinoxxx|Iloveinoxxx]] ([[User talk:Iloveinoxxx|talk]]) 17:56, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Re: Hidan's Eternal Youth==
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This was about 6 months before Sasuke betrayed Oro, Gaara(January) and Naruto(October) were still 15, so Kabuto(February) was still 22. That means he was 17 5 years ago. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 18:09, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
That's not the point. It's hard to say it but I found this webpage that features Hidan having eternal youth due to being immortal. If you don't believe me here is the webpage link.
 
   
If you look below and look in the known user box, Hidan's name is in it. Also, eternal youth is under the "Variation" section. http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Immortality
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== Re: Kabuto stuff ==
   
And if you look the known user box in the eternal youth page, Hidan's name is also in it. http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Semi-Immortality
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But... but all of my dates are backed up by the manga :(<br />
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:Orochimaru left Konoha 3 years aNb, Kabuto became Genin 3 years aNb. We know that they left Konoha's ANBU together and that Orochimaru send Kabuto back to Konoha with the fake background.
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:Kabuto began to work for the ANBU five years earlier, meaning 2 years bNb, after having been found by Nono 2 years ago, meaning 5 years bNb. Why is it nonsense that he was two years old at that point?
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:Orochimaru left Akatsuki 6 years aNb, as stated in chapter 238 and 353, with Kabuto at his side.
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:Kabuto was a spy for Sasori after Orochimaru left Akatsuki, though Oro discovered Sasori's technique and made him his spy instead.
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I didn't make this up, you know? o: [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:58, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
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:Yeah, that's probably the meeting Kabuto mentioned five years later, but Orochimaru isn't there because he already left Akatsuki and Kabuto worked as Sasori's spy. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:21, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
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::Because it's a timeline. First Oro wants to know about Akatsuki, then his time with Sasori in Akatsuki comes, then he's left Akatsuki and Kabuto works as a double spy. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:34, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
--[[User:Jon825lazery7|Jon825lazery7]] ([[User talk:Jon825lazery7|talk]]) 20:59, March 27, 2013 (UTC)[[User talk:Jon825lazery7]]--[[User:Jon825lazery7|Jon825lazery7]] ([[User talk:Jon825lazery7|talk]]) 20:59, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: thank you, ==
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No, you are all wrong. First, kabuto is 1 when he got picked up by nonou. After 3 years, he can be NEARLY 4 years old and at this point he has good medical ninjutsu. He would be trained by root to be a spy ONLY. And got sent on the mission. We can see that he had 4 different uniforms in different countries so we can take that he spend 1 year in each which adds up to 4 years and including the 1 year training, 5 year in total. Kabuto at age 8 (NEARLY 9) now meets orochimaru again who was suppose to kill him under danzou's orders. so this means that at this point, orochimaru is still part of konoha, the reason he dresses differently can be due to the fact that oro dont want to be seen wearing konoha uniform to his hideout and saving kabuto. We know that orochimaru left after minato died and before naruto is 4 thanks to kakashi anbu arc. when naruto is 4, kakashi would be 18 and yamato would be 14 and kabuto would be 12. Orochimaru left akatsuki when naruto was 6. Itachi would be 11 at that point and at 11, he is still a anbu, thanks to kakashi anbu arc again. He stayed in anbu untill he was 13, since kakashi did say that itachi became an anbu captain at age 13 and it is not long after he became anbu captain that he killed his clan, mostly within a year. we know that shisui is not dead yet when itachi is in the anbu. we know orochimaru left because he failed to get itachi's sharingan. We also know that anko is older than yamato since she is 24 in part I and kakashi is 26 during chuunin exams. yamato then would be 22. Anko is 5 years older than kabuto. So basically, oro picked a 8 year old kabuto up, anko at this point is 13 so she is already a chuunin but part of team orochimaru. he then took kabuto to konoha's academy who he graduated in 1 year. At this point, anko would already have gotton the cursed mark from oro. Shortly after this incident, mostly within a year, oro leaves the village only to be confronted by a nearly 16 year old kakashi and a nearly 12 year old yamato.
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--[[User:Matthewlauyh|Matthewlauyh]] ([[User talk:Matthewlauyh|talk]]) 17:24, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
   
Seeing that discussion sparked in my memory that we had those. Felt double-stardardish to refuse adding those names when I recalled there being some names of that nature. I got all I remembered down. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:07, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: opinion ==
   
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Forum post comes later. My plan is quite big. But before I do anything I need to know what the other sysops think about the issue first.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:33, January 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Re: Hayate filler ==
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:Oh it is grandiose. And i'll prob get me in trouble. Hence why Im asking questions first. And I meant whatever means "drooling". I'm just a god tier speller and those discussion pertain to my interest.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:31, January 5, 2014 (UTC)
Anyway It would be good next episode the episode may even expand on his relationship with yugao his girlfriend --<span style="color:CornflowerBlue;">[[User:Jmootam1999]][[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]]</span><span style="color:Indigo;">[[User talk:Jmootam1999|Loves Naruto]]</span> 23:42, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Haha your crazy haha shikamaru would be like what kurenai had It with hayate haha--<span style="color:CornflowerBlue;">[[User:Jmootam1999]][[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]]</span><span style="color:Indigo;">[[User talk:Jmootam1999|Loves Naruto]]</span> 23:58, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
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== Help ==
   
== Re: immortality question ==
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Can you tell me how to archive my talkpage please and thanks. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 15:58, January 8, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec
   
In theory, yes. [[wikipedia:Biological immortality|Biological immortality]] does exist in the form of immortalised cell cultures such as [[wikipedia:HeLa|HeLa]] and [[wikipedia:Jurkat cells|Jurkat]] cells. There's [[wikipedia:Turritopsis nutricula|a jellyfish]] which can be biologically immortal through changing back to an immature form, but in nature ends up perishing either to disease or predation. [[wikipedia:Hydra (genus)|Hydra]] have something similar going on, but they don't know how telemore restoration works with their constant cellular division. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:10, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks[[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 16:37, January 8, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec
   
== FairyTail Fanon wiki ==
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== Kaguya ==
Hey could you please join FairyTaill Fanon wiki please, It's new and I need Admins who can develop the wiki really well please join --
 
<span style="padding-left:6px; background-color:Gold; border:6px dotted yellow;{{border-radius|20em 20em 20em 20em}}">[[File:Nature_Icon_Yin–Yang.svg|0x15px]][[User:Jmootam1999|<span style= "font-size:15px; font-family: Bauhaus 93;">'''Jmootam1999'''</span>]][[File:Nature_Icon_Yin–Yang.svg|0x15px]]</span> 09:27, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: how you ==
 
   
Yeah, I wonder how Madara could survive after his battle with Hashirama and also how he could find the Gedo statue to bring the supply of his life until he met Obito. Perhaps he awakened his Rinnegan at that time to allow himself to control the life as he desire. And maybe Itachi was right about most of Madara's theories that you talked about, but I think we'll know more of Madara's flashbacks very soon. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 16:43, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
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The theory is found here:
   
== Re: chapter 626 ==
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http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=944476 [[User:Celebrei|Celebrei]] ([[User talk:Celebrei|talk]]) 23:27, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
   
I don't have access to the chapters 625 and 626 yet. Mangahead is seemingly having some problems with the Naruto raws and I don't have any other raw source. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:46, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
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== Shiki Fuujin Kai ==
:Uh, I don't know what Genjutsu sound words look like, but I don't see anything that would stand out. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:54, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Nope, the sound effect ザ ''za'' stands for ''whoosh'' or such, describing strong, energetic movement of the rain, in this case. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:11, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re:Forum talk ==
 
   
The ones who knew her as his mother aren't the ones who would be crazy on killing him (for being Minato's son), are they?'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 15:36, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
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Based on the talk page of Shiki Fuujin Kai, you also noticed that Orochimaru needed to be in front of the Tablet to unseal the Reaper, this is true, think about it: Sasuke said "Appearances (Naka Shrine) does not matter, the important item is downstairs, let's go" and we see Sasuke lighting the candles in front of the Tablet, and Orochimaru donning the Mask in front of the Tablet, even crouching in front of it to summon the Reaper, now why would Sasuke said the Uchiha Tablet was important if he didn't read it? unless, the immediate use of the Tablet was for the immediate purpose of unsealing the Reaper? now others argue that perhaps Sasuke read the Tablet off-panel, however this is very unlikely, when Hashirama asked Madara how he knew about the Shinju/Kaguya/Hagoromo story Madara replied "So it is written in the Uchiha Tablet" Hashirama would've at least an idea of where Madara learned this if Sasuke read the Tablet after his talk with the Edo Hokages (and Kishimoto would've shown Hashirama having a flashback of Sasuke reading the Tablet after the latter made his decision) but there wasn't, because Sasuke never read the Tablet, the importance of the Tablet (as Sasuke said) was to use it in conjunction with the Shinigami Mask to unseal the Reaper, and that is why Orochimaru took forever to unseal it and get his arms back if the Mask was the only thing needed, because he needed Sasuke's Sharingan to open the sealed door of the Shrine for the catalyst of the Mask to work: the Tablet.
   
Doesn't seem that kind of a person... Hiruzen must have decieded so only after accurately measuring the pros and cons (?)'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 16:38, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
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This is Kishimoto's deliberate and ultimate form of obfuscation to hide the relationship the Uzumaki Clan has with Hagoromo. [[User:Celebrei|Celebrei]] ([[User talk:Celebrei|talk]]) 23:46, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Hashirama's scar ==
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== Tablet ==
   
Did you noticed in the recent chapter that Hashirama's scar on his nose bridge in the Hokage Monument isn't exist? Of course we're talking about the recent timing. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 14:18, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== FTG Slash ==
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Well if all Sasuke and co. needed was privacy then why didn't they unseal the Reaper and summon the Hokages in the Uzumaki Mask Storage Temple? it's pretty much abandoned and would provide the same kind of privacy the Naka Shrine served.
   
Hey man , is it true that Minato says Tobi has better space time ninjutsu than him and the Second ? If so, what chapter ? Im starting to get a little confused as to what things suggest it's Space time ninjutsu (other than the name), could you clear this up for me ? (maybe give me some reasons ? ahaha)Thanks --[[User:Keep Calm And Call Kakashi|Keep Calm And Call Kakashi]] ([[User talk:Keep Calm And Call Kakashi|talk]]) 12:09, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
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And if we look at it from a logical and deductive perspective:
   
Ok cool , what chapter did you say ? ahhaha "50x" ? :p I dont really understand. Sorry for being pedantic, I just dont recall this part about the Second ! --[[User:Keep Calm And Call Kakashi|Keep Calm And Call Kakashi]] ([[User talk:Keep Calm And Call Kakashi|talk]]) 13:26, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
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Orochimaru wanted to possess Sasuke, but even if he did possess Sasuke, the soul part of his arms would still be sealed inside the Reaper, so Orochimaru still needed to retrieve it, but in doing so would kill the host body (which is Sasuke) so what Orochimaru should have done is have one of his fanatical servants sacrifice himself/herself for him to wear the Mask and unseal the Reaper so he could get his arms back, of course he could have done this even before possessing Sasuke because if the sacrificial servant would unseal the Reaper for him the soul part of his arms would just go back to him anyway without harming his host, that is, if the Shinigami Mask was the only thing needed to unseal the RDS, so why didn't he do it before? answer: it's because Orochimaru couldn't, the Mask itself is not enough to unseal the Reaper.
   
== Re: Hayate filler arc ==
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What Orochimaru intended was to possess Sasuke and use his Sharingan to open the sealed door to the Naka Shrine and have of his servants sacrifice himself for him to unseal the Reaper to get his arm's soul back while preserving Sasuke's body, because the catalyst for the unsealing is inside the Naka Shrine: The Uchiha Tablet.
   
Unfortunately, no info available yet for that. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 19:21, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
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Also, one cannot argue that Orochimaru was the one who was necessary to perform the unsealing to get his arms back, for Orochimaru was determined to possess Sasuke even before he got his arms back, if Orochimaru was successful in possessing Sasuke, he would not dispose of his body, Orochimaru will not wait three years again to perform the Reaper Death Unseal and dispose Sasuke's body just to get his arms back since Sasuke's body is Orochimaru's prized possession, therefore, it only stands to reason that anyone performing the Reaper Death Unseal is sufficient to get his arms back once his arm's soul had been released from it. So why didn't Orochimaru have one of his lackeys unseal the Reaper before? because they don't have access to the Naka Shrine were the catalyst for the unsealing is: The Uchiha Tablet.
   
== Obito and Kakashi's Age Difference. ==
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This is just too obvious to be wrong, so we just have to wait until Kishi reveals more about it. [[User:Celebrei|Celebrei]] ([[User talk:Celebrei|talk]]) 01:59, January 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
Obito is 2 years 7 months 5 days older than Kakashi, Kakashi took only 1 year to graduate to Genin, he was still 5, he was almost 7 when he became a Chunin, and freshly 11 when he became a Jonin. Obito was 9 when he became a Genin, after a short time he and Rin took the Chunin exams with Kakashi and him and Rin lost, Kakashi who was almost 7 years old passed becoming a Chunin. Obito was 16years and 8 months when he attacked the village and Kakashi was 14years and 25 days, this was on the day of Naruto's birth which was 10/10/1996 as a figurehead.
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== Re: Moveset ==
   
Use this site to do the date differences and you will see that he is not 3 years 7 months and 5 days older than Kakashi but in fact 2 years 7 months 5 days older than Kakashi.
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I know know when exactly articles on video game jutsu began, but there were already here when I first joined. However, they had a lot of incorrect information, most of them were mistranslated. I corrected many of these old articles. We cover the franchise as a whole, and that covers the game. In my opinion, I think it's valid to cover individual game jutsu if the information is out there and available for consult to create the articles. There are others who think they're unnecessary as well, but as long as they're there, I rather they have the correct information, so I work on them when people make them. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:23, January 13, 2014 (UTC)
   
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html
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== Re: Hell ==
   
Obito to current date
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Yeah, that's true. This episode will be censored in the broadcast version according to Date-chi. But when this episode will be released in DVDs, it will be uncensored. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 11:24, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
From and including: Sunday, February 10, 1980
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:The DVD is expected to be released in the next year. And about the spiral Zetsu, he has the same voice actor but the animator did some modifications on his voice to make it different. But Nobuo-san is very skillful voice actor and I like his rule so much. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 12:56, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
To, but not including : Wednesday, May 8, 2013
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::This episode was quite amazing for me. At least, the censorship wasn't that intensive and I really liked it. Megumi-san did a very good job in voice acting in this episode, despite her young age (24 years old) but still she did what should be done. And about the ending, I think it was very good and fits the ending of its manga chapter. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 15:30, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
33 years, 2 months, 28 days excluding the end date
 
   
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== Re: Like ==
   
Kakashi to current date
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Use the "Hide logs" option. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 18:53, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
From and including: Wednesday, September 15, 1982
 
To, but not including : Wednesday, May 8, 2013
 
30 years, 7 months, 23 days excluding the end date
 
   
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== Re: some of the dialogue ==
   
Naruto to current date
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Zetsu says "Anyhow, the contents are splendidly nice, hm?" or so. It's an easy sentence, but difficult to translate for me. I think it's about the Tailed Beasts or maybe about Obito inside Kuro Zetsu.<br />
From and including: Thursday, October 10, 1996
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Madara says "Furthermore, a new "eye" is also being raised... though I don't know if it'll stick to my side", obviously referring to Sasuke. However, it doesn't make sense that he stabs him a few seconds later... [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:13, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
To, but not including : Wednesday, May 8, 2013
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:Eh, he noticed him earlier, but it's weird that he doesn't show any real intereset in Sasuke or vice versa. Madara's after Sasuke's eyes, nothing else. And no, I don't recall that anime scene, I didn't watch part I for a long time. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:57, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
16 years, 6 months, 28 days excluding the end date
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::And why would that be Jūken? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:21, January 20, 2014 (UTC)
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:::But isn't Jūken a bit more than that? I mean, otherwise Kakashi's Double Raikiri against Kakuzu's Raitonjutsu would be Jūken too, huh? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:03, January 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
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== Re: 2 things ==
   
The earliest possible day of Kakashi becoming a Chunin
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Trying to put more logic into the manga than it needs is what you're doing. I don't think the beasts have DNA, because they're basically Chakra. But what about Orochimaru? I don't understand what his abilities have to do with chakra and dna. Dunno about the life force thing. We're talking about stuff that only was hinted at and I'm currently not in the mood to think too deeply about Naruto and how everything works. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 11:03, January 22, 2014 (UTC)
From and including: Wednesday, September 15, 1982
 
To, but not including : Friday, February 10, 1989
 
6 years, 4 months, 26 days excluding the end date
 
   
Obito on that day
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== Re: feiku ==
From and including: Sunday, February 10, 1980
 
To, but not including : Friday, February 10, 1989
 
9 years excluding the end date
 
   
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tho ain't no word, tho [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:31, January 22, 2014 (UTC)
   
The latest possible day of Kakashi becoming a Chunin
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== Yahiko age source ==
From and including: Wednesday, September 15, 1982
 
To, but not including : Thursday, September 14, 1989
 
6 years, 11 months, 30 days excluding the end date
 
   
Obito on that day
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Seelan gave it. Munchvtec 13:26, February 3, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec
From and including: Sunday, February 10, 1980
 
To, but not including : Thursday, September 14, 1989
 
9 years, 7 months, 4 days excluding the end date
 
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The thing about Munchlax and rectum, yea real funny. Change whatever you want I wont change it back and also what do you mean by "For Your Sake "? Also you don;t have to be disgusting and rude about users behind there back like I wasn't going to see that comment. Munchvtec 16:40, February 3, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec
   
Oh and in the Lost Tower Movie they went back 20 years before current time Naruto date setting so Kakashi's age of 30 years, 7 months, 23 days becomes 10 years, 7 months, 23 days and his data file in the movie said he was a Chunin at that time so it fits right in to all of this [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 10:46, May 8, 2013 (UTC)
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it was on Itachiwasaheroes talk page the latest addition and im assuming he translated it because he said he would. Munchvtec 16:56, February 3, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec
   
Yamato was 6 years 8 months 28 days and a Chunin too at that time, but he wasn't shown in the movie except for his current self. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 02:59, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: Yahiko's age ==
   
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No, I did not translate that. However, I read it in the blog post and told it to Mister Omnibender. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:10, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
Btw I used 1996 for Naruto and Sasuke, 1991 for Itachi, 1982 for Kakashi, and 1980 for Obito. For yamato I used 1986. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 20:07, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: Charasuke ==
   
To Elveo,
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It's not an ''episode'' at the very least, which is what the page was categorized as.
   
So lets put it like this then, They all enter the academy at the same time that's a manga fact, and Obito is 2years7months5days older than Kakashi, the grad ages were 9(genin) and 11(chunin) for Obito and Rin... Kakashi's was 5(genin) and 6(chunin).
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No opposition to its recreation, assuming anyone can find more about it. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 19:51, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
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:[http://www.anime-mp3.com/2013/04/road-to-charasuke-drama-cd.html Found a download for it.] Maybe someone wants to pester Seelentau to translate it? '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 19:58, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
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::You want me to translate a drama cd? What? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:15, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:::No need to fear, Kirin is hear! Hear is a brief summary of the CD: http://kohaya7kae-13.deviantart.com/art/Road-To-Charasuke-Official-SasuHina-Interaction-369209178. You can use this information to make the Charasuke page. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 23:50, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
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::::ah, I see, so that's how it is. Well, as it is already translated, just do what you must. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 09:27, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
Academy Entrance: Obito, Kakashi, Rin, at the same time.
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== Re: just wondering ==
   
1 year later: Kakashi(Still 5 but almost 6) becomes Genin: Obito and Rin are still in the academy.
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I used to be an editor (and short-time admin) at the German PokéWiki, yes. But my interest faded after Generation IV. I still own a 3DS XL and Pokémon X, but I'm not into it anymore. Thinking of selling everything and buying some new pc components, but the memories... [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 08:41, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
   
Obito and Rin become Genin: a short time later Kakashi at almost 7 years old(Still 6 since his birthday hasn't come yet) becomes a chunin after taking the exams with Rin and Obito who fail the exams.
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== Re: Pokemon ==
   
Obito(11yrs) and Rin become Chunin: Obito is shown with his chunin vest and papers.
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Competitively, I think Chikorita was bad, or at the very least had the least opportunities to make stupid broken. Way back then though everyone was going for the Cyndaquil. Very few went for Totodile, and even fewer went Chikorita. But I loved that cute little green and yellow thing (Old Man Voice: Because in MY day, Chikorita was @#$&ing yellow and green!). After Chikorita though I started to exclusively pick up the water starters, so Mudkip, Piplup, Oshawott, Froakie, and whatever the next one will be. But Chikorita will always have a special place in my heart and hopefully my team.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:00, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:I always use the fire type as my starter. Dunno why :D--''[[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme</span>]]'' 15:59, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
   
2 years go by and Obito is now 13: Kakashi who is 11 has become a Jonin, Obito who is 13 nearly dies and goes rogue. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 06:32, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
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:LOL. Not really, its just the right time that I login ;).
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:I never thought anyone would ever read the entire thing :D.
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:Nope, I just read manga nowadays that college has started. Might watch them all at once in holidays xD--''[[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme</span>]]'' 16:27, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
   
One part you forget... the Jonin Sensei is the one who sends them to take the Chunin Exams, Like Gai made sure team Gai couldn't take the exams when he thought they weren't ready... Minato obviously did not think his team were ready to take a second Chunin exams until they were 11, Sasuke and Naruto got into the academy when they were 5, they Graduated when they were 12 man... 12. My math still fits. Kakashi became Chunin at 6(almost 7) and was that way until 11. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 19:06, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
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:Fun fact, Empoleon was actually the weakest starter of its gen, at least in comparison to the others. Mainly it's Steel and Water worked against it. It couldn't fight Impernape because steel is weak against fighting. It couldn't fight Totaria (or however its spelled) because Water is weak against grass.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:48, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
   
BTW there are TWO Chunin exams every year, one at the beginning and one at the end of the year and Jonin Sensei's can prevent their students from taking the exams as much as they want until they feel they are ready. Kakashi was 11 when he became a Jonin, My PROOF? here are some facts.. Gai became a Chunin at 11 and he is only around over 8 months older than Kakashi and Asuma became a Chunin at 12 and he is around a year older than Kakashi.. Gai and Asuma were BOTH wearing their Chunin vests in chapter 599 when we see Rin showing her "Project give Kakashi a present to congratulate Kakashi becoming a Jonin" plan... Obito died at 13(a fact), and in the Kakashi Gaiden they say Kakashi just became a Jonin so it is clear that page in chapter 599 happens soon before the Kakashi Gaiden.. which means I am right and Obito is 2yrs 7months 5days older than Kakashi. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 03:01, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
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:Its the most distinct starter too.--''[[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme</span>]]'' 17:07, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
 
That manga chapter had 3 errors only, Minato's stone face, Hayate, and Anko being in it... that was it. The rest can be assumed as accurate enough. In the movie lost towers Kakashi is 10 and still Chunin and that supports me.. chapter 599? that supports me... Gai and Asuma's chunin ages? they support me. I am right you are wrong. Kakashi became Jonin at 11 and Obito is 2 years 7 months older than him. Enough said. My evidence is better and more accurate than yours, my evidence has facts, manga and data.. and math that all fits.. I don't see why you are so hell bent on Kakashi being a 9 year old Jonin and Obito being 3yrs 7months older than him... they don't fit and they never will, once all the other facts are realized like ALL the posts I put on your talk page. I brought more evidence and facts than you, and all of them fit and are supported by databook and manga. Just accept I am right and move on this is getting old. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 11:12, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== ... ==
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:You may say I "was" a hardcore. Platinum, I would say. Played emerald for long time too --''[[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme</span>]]'' 18:16, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
   
No again you are presuming it takes everyone a year to graduate the academy. Itachi and Kakashi were PRAISED for graduating in a year, AND at the top of their classes so that in itself I am right on again. One year = 12 months no matter what. 5 Years and 11 months minus a year equals?? exactly. Also this isn't based on OUR dates, ONly the months and days are correspondent and the days that were given that were not databook or manga data were only used to support my post, they could of been a few days later or a few days earlier or even a month or two. You need to be looking at the age DIFFERENCES in those dates posted mainly, the utmost importance and point in my post was not 100% the actual dates. Read my post again and let me know if you understand what it really meant. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 19:55, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: timeline ==
   
AND a year before the nine tales attack Obito would of been 15, 2 years before that Obito was 13, that is 3 years before the nine tails attack, Kakashi being 14 minus 3 equals 11. On to another piece, Itachi is 8 years, 8 months, 25 days younger than Kakashi and it was a stated fact he was still around the time the 3rd war ended. So the 3rd war ended on his 4th Birthday at the least and the last day of his 4th year at the most, meaning it ended around almost 2 years after Obito's "Death" at Kanabi Bridge at most and around 1 year at the least. My math makes sense all the way. Obito was 16 and 8 months when he attacked Konoha, Itachi was 5 and 4 months, and Kakashi was 14 and 25 days. During the the Gaiden Kakashi was 11 and Obito was 13 and Itachi was 2, I didn't specify the months here because it should be easy to calculate them using the date calculator and I want you to see for yourself... you will get the exact months too and it will all fit. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 20:06, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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Yeah, gotta work on my timeline a bit, but let's finish this awesome arc first. ;) Oh and about Pokémon: I never watched the anime "for real", my fav version is HG/SS as well and I don't play it anymore because I don't enjoy playing singleplayer games anymore. I know there's a huge fanbase and multiplayer stuff, but that's too much for me. Dunno, maybe I grew out of it after all. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 15:44, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:A bit Minecraft and a bit League of Legends. Currently I'm on gaming hiatus, gotta watch HIMYM. Yeah, Imma bit late on that one, but it's awesome nonetheless. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:10, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
   
Kakashi was 9 years old when Obito "died". Not 11. Itachi was born that year. I've gone through all that multiple times, if you don't trust Elve-kun's words, trust me. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:06, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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==Re:Hey==
:Kakashi, Obito and Rin graduated at the same time, 9 years prior to Naruto's birth (ptNb). Kakashi became Chūnin one year later (8 years ptNb), Obito and Rin two years (7 years ptNb) later. Obito "died" 5 years ptNb. Both Obito and Rin are four years older than Kakashi. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:20, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
 
::There's a gap, that's right. Don't know how to take that into account, though. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:33, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
No, you are not getting this. Re-read my posts... I am right. I am only stating facts here not my opinions... I did your math and my math countless times and in the end you are still wrong. Go over everything I posted again. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 07:00, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
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Charsasuke? The one CD drama that came along for ''Road to Ninja''? I remember looking it up a while ago somewhere on Tumblr, but the translations were incomplete, so I just gave up looking at them since a fan did. It wasn't all the good to me, so I couldn't really use it was a source material. I've created pages before on the Narutopedia (mostly locations for Konoha), but I'm not sure if I'm up to task, though. ^_^; You said there were translations somewhere, right? Are the ones you're talking about accurate?--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 21:28, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
:And where exactly am I wrong? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:57, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: Naruto's healing ==
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Thanks! I've just finished reading (well, skimming) over it. Lol! How weird! XD So, just so I understand what's on in this thing: the CD drama basically takes place shortly after Playboy Sasuke gave Sakura the rose in the movie. Hinata and Ino goes to Sakura's house. Hinata plans a group date to set Sakura and Sasuke up together in order to prevent Sakura from getting "Menma". Ino doesn't like the idea and wants to protect Sakura from getting hurt. She confides in Chōji and Shikamaru for advice, and they all agree to go on the date to protect Sakura. The date happens, the Ino-Shika-Chō trio acts desperately to prevent Sasuke from winning Sakura's heart and failing miserable at it while Hinata encourages Sakura's attraction to Sasuke by pointing out Sasuke's good points. Throughout this whole thing, Playboy Sasuke uses his Sharingan (lol! XD) on to help with the date and scare his fanclub away when they follow him to the restaurant. Near the end of the date, Ino uses Mind Transfer on Hinata, and makes her drags Sasuke away before he could get Sakura to himself. Playboy Sasuke misunderstands Hinata's behavior as jealously and thinks she likes him, Ino leaves, Hinata regains her conscious, Sasuke hits on Hinata, and Hinata sends Sasuke to the ground with a punch. Ino and Sakura have girl talk, Sakura says she had fun and goes to meet with Naruto, Ino-Shika-Chō pats themselves on the back for being there for Sakura. CD drama ends with Naruto passing by grumpy Playboy Sasuke after being socked by Hinata.
   
The passage isn't in mangareader's scanlation, but in mangastream's archive site (which I'm not sure is actually maintained by them, the .to domain), you can see the scanlated part where Kakashi thinks "Must be the Nine-Tails' power". And since the scanlation probably dates back to a long time ago, the quality is rather bad, some of the kanji are still readable, and you can even see part of the kanji for nine, just above the box where that thought is written. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:34, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
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Did I get the gist of it? ^ __ ^--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 23:01, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
:Not exactly sure. As an Uzumaki, Naruto ought to have the "potential for long life" yada, yada, yada, and since he's an Uzumaki through his mother. Only case I can think of from the top of my head that someone explicitly linked anything Naruto has with his heritage was Kurama when Naruto went Oprah "You get a chakra cloak! You get a cloak! EVERYBODY gets a chakra cloak!" with its chakra. I don't recall if there are others, but I think it stands to reason that he'd have inherited something from Kushina. I don't particularly recall anyone being against listing Naruto as having those benefits, as an Uzumaki, but my memory could be faulty. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:50, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: Sakumo killing Sasori's parents matter ==
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Eh~? Seriously? Who creates a page and doesn't put anything on it? o__o Hmmm, I never created a page based off a merchandise, let alone for a CD Drama. It can't be too hard, right? Hmm, if no one else is going to do it, then I guess I can take a crack at it. But when I have time, so I'm busy with college and all. I even had a math test today (hoped I passed), and I have to study for my biology and music class tests this week (what a drag...-__-). But sure, I'll give it shot. I'll try to do it this weekend. :)--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 21:09, February 7, 2014 (UTC)
   
Why do you think Nagato was that old when he died? My timeline says so, too, but I have no idea why it does that, since I removed everything regarding the second WW due to missing proof. So if you can proof that Nagato was that old, it'd be awesome. Maybe I could then add it again. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau ]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:07, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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Aw, thanks. :)--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 04:56, February 8, 2014 (UTC)
:So your whole argumentation is based on an assumption? I don't think that's enough, dude. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:45, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Where does it say that Sasori's parents died when he was younger than 5? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:00, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Could you get me a manga reference for that information? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:41, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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== Rinbo: Hengoku issue ==
   
== Re: Archive ==
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You said Rinbo: Hengoku should be considered Deva Path jutsu on the fact policy discussion. I agree with you but others still don't believe it. Can you try to help?--[[User:Rinneganmaster|Rinneganmaster]] ([[User talk:Rinneganmaster|talk]]) 23:53, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
Yep--[[User:ROOT 根|ROOT 根]] ([[User talk:ROOT 根|talk]]) 17:35, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Then why Is my archive weird looking its not like yours where It neat and says Archive 1 ? how come? It hasn't got any links example "Archive 1" like yours --[[User:ROOT 根|ROOT 根]] ([[User talk:ROOT 根|talk]]) 17:57, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: Traffic ==
   
== Re: Jubi forms ==
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I saw your question at Simant's talk page. The only traffic related info I know of is [[Special:WikiStats|this]]. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:17, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
Second form is emaciated/handicapped, third form is it bulking up arms, horns etc. There's nothing special about the beast opening its mouth and showing us its penis, so it's not a fourth form.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:38, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
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:The Dashboard also has some quick stats which atm say 5.3M (weekly)
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:You can also [[Special:contact/general|request]] "Quantcast stats" from wikia.--''[[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme</span>]]'' 17:25, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
I'm kind of lost, but, if I understand you correctly, there'd be no need to represent the mouth in the gallery.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:47, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
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== If I may ask ==
   
Oh, I thought they mentioned that it was transforming again that's why that was put there. Checked and didn't see it, I'll edit it to reflect that.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:58, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
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How in the he'll does a blind person even use a wikia?[[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 22:25, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Speculation ==
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I know and I don't treat blind people any different, there the same as us and thanks for the info anyways [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 22:36, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
You need to tone down the speculation, Elve. Its fine if you want to discuss theories or ideas you have in a forum or on personal talk pages, but three times since the chapter came out, I've seen you starting new discussions (Ten-Tails classification, Naruto being a sensor, and now the Haruno clan) based on nothing but over exaggerations of canon statements and baseless speculation on your behalf. This is not a reprimand, just a reminder that we can't actually use evidence like a symbol appearing above Sakura's head (regardless of who drew it, or the circumstances) to draw any conclusions. The same about the Ten-Tails, or Naruto's abilities. There has to be concrete facts before they are added. That's why we couldn't change the Ten-Tails' classification, that's why Naruto cannot be added as a sensor, and that's why we are not going to list that symbol as proof of a "Haruno clan".
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== Re: mystery solved ==
   
It may happen that, later on down the road, Kishimoto proves your theories all right. Or, he could do a 180 and prove them all wrong. My point is that you have to have something solid before using it in an argument. Maybes, could be's, might have's, and possibly's are not things that are going to be considered for a mention on the articles. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 20:16, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
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Who... was that again? Seriously, though. There's no one I can think of that would make sense. Really no one. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau ]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:50, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
: Of course. I didn't want to seem like I was hunting your comments down and attacking them. I've learned the hard way that [[User:Speysider|others]] can take it like that, though that is never my intentions. Besides, I see you in a friendly light and enjoy our debates. I just want to make sure we keep speculation out of them for the good of the site. That's all. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 21:01, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: ._. just ==
   
== Happy ==
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As it turns out, I am seriously reevaluating Karin. She demolished Spiral Zetsu. That was pretty unexpected. I've disliked Kabuto ever since he was revealed to be a villain. He was so cocky and snide, which was, up until he became Kabutomaru, completely without foundation since he was nothing more than a bookworm before then. I felt least connected with him. Even with Obito, which people give more hate than necessary, I can connect with the guy and understand why he went bad. But with Kabuto it was just like... I don't know. He felt lacking. More like his reasons for going evil were completely for his own ego. Yeah, there was all that junk about Nono, but still felt extremely lacking for the massive **** he became. At least Obito, in his Tobi and Madara persona, was a total badass. Suigetsu and Jugo kinda have the same reasoning behind them. They were built up as these super elite experiments of Orochimaru and ended up becoming fodder (which was also my original reason for hating Karin). They came in practically to be Sasuke's b****es and have remained such ever since. Suigetsu hasn't had a truly defining moment yet, and even Jugo's rampage at the Kage Summit wasn't all that impressive.
   
I am happy with your latest message to Seelentau regarding chakra. Do you have any questions or anything you're still not sure about that I could maybe help explain? Everything about chakra and all its components gets VERY confusing, especially since there's a lot of misinformation about it (though you've shown you know more than the average). We all can still learn. =) --[[Special:Contributions/98.101.165.89|98.101.165.89]] ([[User talk:98.101.165.89|talk]]) 22:59, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
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Overall, I tend to enjoy the characters I can connect to, emotionally, intellectually, or whathave you, better than the characters who just have flashy moves or are built up to be "superior" when they're introduced. Even characters like Minato I can't enjoy, because for all he was built up to be, the guy is kinda lacking, which I guess Kishi did on purpose, from Tobirama's numerous comments. Anywho, that's my take on it. Glad my avitar got a reaction out of you XD ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 04:55, February 13, 2014 (UTC)
:I agree. Is there anything still unclear to you, Elve-kun? Also [[User:Seelentau/Timeline|this]]. Might wanna read it. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 01:32, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
I am actually quite hurt and disappointed, Elv. I was being completely earnest and amiable. I also do not know how much of chakra you understand, so I only wanted to try and help you clear any confusion that you may have about such a large topic. It is the most comprehensive and confusing thing Kish has created in regards to Naruto, in my opinion. And concerning affinities, you have displayed a bit of that confusion.
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: Very true. And you're right. I am very bias towards Obito. Definitely more so than Kabuto. I don't think I'd hate Kabuto so much, if I had known his reasons earlier on. But I'm bias towards Obito because I get him. I don't fully understand Kabuto, likely because I've never been in a similar situation to him, so its a mismatch. But with Obito, its like, growing up in a family where I was mostly ignored compared to my siblings, I know what its like to be completely overlooked and to have your accomplishments put second or even last to others around you. And I know what its like to care about someone, not necessarily a love interest, but someone of great importance and have them ripped away. Its a much more hollowing feeling than most people understand. Doesn't mean I'd dawn a mask and declare war on the world, but I guess what I'm trying to say is I can understand how he eventually could follow the trail of thoughts to that mentality. Wow... that was much more sentimental than I intended it to be. Maybe I read into this manga too much >_<
   
If it helps you believe, trust, and understand me more... I don't understand the Obito-Kakashi age situation. I mean, yes, I get the answer people come up with, but I haven't done the research and every time I decide I want to start, I get overwhelmed because I honestly don't know where to start, or how. And I would actually appreciate it if you would perhaps help me with that, walking me through it. Perhaps you could list it on my talk page in the way I requested Itachiwasahero do it on Seelentau's timeline page. And don't forget, we've also agreed on things that others might not, so I'm not out to get you.
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: On Suigetsu's situation, yeah, he definitely did a cool thing by taking a Bijudama for his comrades, but in the scope of things, it wasn't a "defining moment" that made me really respect his character. Because Suigetsu and Jugo could've become major players and, in the end, it seems that all Kishi used them for was furthering Sasuke's ambitions. That's the only times they were ever relevant plot-wise and that sorta irked me.
   
To reply to the questions and everything, however -- What parts do you feel were disagreed upon? I must have missed it, because the only part I was discussing is what an affinity was =(. As for arms, legs, etc, that is a debate I've had with other Naruto-philes who do all they can to understand the lore. It seem plausible. Kakuzu's heart issues is simply explained because the heart contains a lot of chakra and vital components to a person. Using what was stored in them (the bonus chakra, nature transformation affinity (because the body naturally leans that way), etc) is what allowed him to use them. And that's the only reason why he could use affinities, because of the heart contained the information and etc. The hearts don't allow him to use others outide of their owners' affinity because it goes based solely on the body's chakra naturally leaned towards/emitted. Sure, they may have trained for others, but the body doesn't naturally do it, and it is why, even if a master in Raiton (Affinity) and Doton (Secondary), their expertise in Raiton (assuming they train it) produces larger results much more easily (and what allowed Kakuzu to use such masterful and large techniques, because he would use the heart's affinity).
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: And then there's Minato. I mean, I was one of those fanboys that, pre-his resurrection, thought he was just some massive badass because of the way Kishimoto built him up. Literally since the beginning of the manga we were lead to believe that Minato was just this Ninja Jesus and it turns out, in fact, that he pales in comparison to even his son. I like him personality wise, but, when observing the past three Hokage, I actually wonder how he was ever made Hokage. He doesn't seem near the same level, though that could just be his age. That's just me though. I'm kinda weird in how I judge characters, so there's that ~_~ ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 03:22, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
   
As for being physical and spiritual energies, you're not incorrect as chakra is molded from physical and spiritual. But it's the chakra that determines it, and all the dialogue explicitly states it, and leaves naught to imagination. They say it (chakra) leans towards a nature, you pump chakra into the paper, the paper reacts to the nature hidden in the chakra, etc. And of course all the other dialogue. So I don't get why you think it is personality based and it explains transplants (when the only things transplanted are the body, chakra, affinity) working better.
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:: Amen. Really curious to see what happens this week, though. Looks like Madara is really steamrolling everyone. It'll be interesting to see how Kishimoto brings Naruto out of this one. My hopes are that Saukura uses the [[One's Own Life Reincarnation]] on him and kicks the can herself >_> A man can dream, right? ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 04:20, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
As for Uchiha's being Katon more often than not, don't forget that there is seemingly a Rite of Passage where you're not really an Uchiha unless you can use Katon (technically they just don't consider you an adult, but I prefer my version better lol). So from that, we can gather there are some Uchiha whose affinity sometimes differs. But along with Uchiha being Kekkei Genkai oriented, we can also assume their bodies have always produced a chakra leaning towards Katon, especially if you do consider the genetics/breeding part you've mentioned in the past. I would say it's the same for Iwagakure, where they're known for their Doton, Kirigakure being known for their Suiton, Sungakure -- Fuuton, and Kumogakure -- Raiton, and in the end it really just probably ends up being all attributable to breeding/genetics and chakra leaning towards a nature being perpetuated.
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:: I sure hope so. And yeah, I see Sasuke awakening the Rinnegan myself. I started predicting that way back when he got his EMS, but now it seems more likely than ever. I'm really curious as to who this mysterious person is approaching Sasuke, so I hope Kishi doesn't keep us in suspense too long concerning that guy. Could be Kabuto, but personally I don't believe it is, since Karin didn't recognize the chakra and even Orochimaru seemed concerned. Here's to hoping its somebody epic. All in all, yeah. I'm pretty happy with Kishimoto lately. He seems to really be on a roll. Let's hope he keeps it up right through to the end. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 16:39, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
As for changing affinities, there's no reason to believe that, and it's heresy. And having two affinities? Hm, I've wondered about that when it comes to people like Haku, Hashirama, etc. They need both elements, and seemingly are born with both elements in order to use their KKG. I mean we've all come to understand they need both, but I haven't seen anyone approach the idea of having two affinities from birth for them. Maybe people have, but I haven't seen it, so... no, I don't agree with changing affinities, but I do agree with some having two affinities because of KKG.--[[Special:Contributions/98.101.165.89|98.101.165.89]] ([[User talk:98.101.165.89|talk]]) 14:24, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
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== O' great ==
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Lol I hope you were being sarcastic with him. His ego doesn't need to get any worse. --[[User:OmegaRasengan|OmegaRasengan]] ([[User talk:OmegaRasengan|talk]]) 15:42, February 13, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Truce. ==
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== Re: for it ==
   
I am cooled down now and I have come to this conclusion, if we completely exclude chapter 599, then Obito and Rin are 4 years older than Kakashi. if we include chapter 599 then they are 2 years older than Kakashi. It all comes down to Databook 4 to solve this issue. Right now as long as it isn't addressed by databook 4 then we are both wrong and right at the same time. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 09:36, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
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DARY! eh, wrong series, sorry. It was Obito who persuaded Yahiko, not Madara. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 07:57, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:It wasn't a lie. The anime confirms that, hm? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:38, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
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::...oh, well, you're right. I don't recall Obito ever talking to Yahiko aside from that one time... so maybe it was Madara? But Madara should've been tied to the statue at that time... [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:51, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Technically, he didn't lie, because everyone assumed that he was Madara at that point. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:56, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Re: this guy's theory/prediction ==
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== The answer ==
   
I did not look through all of it, but between mistranslations and just plain wrong assumptions. Even if something that guy proposed ends up happening, I don't think it'll happen how he proposed. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:02, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
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Okay so how would you know if I knew the answer or not I would not have asked the question if I didn't know the answer but aside from that what's up with video game overhaul thing, I'd like to know what's gonna happen if you know the answer to that. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 21:02, February 17, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Re: Could you please take a look? ==
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Okay thanks and again with the video game thing do you know what's gonna happen there at all or no. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 21:10, February 17, 2014 (UTC)
   
Don't know exactly what you're asking. I usually don't give much thought to the "lessons" and "teachings" of a fictional world, I'm much more interested in its mythology and how it works. If you wrote about that, I'd be able to give you a much better feedback. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:02, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: Nawaki and Dan's deaths ==
   
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Nawaki died in a battle or so, Dan during the second WW. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:16, February 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Naruto Fandom wiki ==
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== Re: tracks' name translation ==
hey elv-san would you like to join Naruto Fandom Wiki we need more creative people to come and Interact at the moment the wiki's growing very successfully --[[User:ROOT 根|ROOT 根]] ([[User talk:ROOT 根|talk]]) 16:08, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re:please ==
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Sorry, I'm kinda busy at the moment^^ Ours are correct. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:06, March 1, 2014 (UTC)
   
I used it the same as one would "dude" or "man", but I'm a girl and always use it anyways when speaking to someone. I just delved into my personality a little bit and used it, lol. But I won't use it, despite not having used it before with you for all this time. --[[User:Taynio|Taynio]] ([[User talk:Taynio|talk]]) 16:09, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: wait ==
   
Lol it's okay. I wouldn't speak to you like that, especially after all the discussions we've had. But just incase you missed my other announcement to you, I am the anon you would always debate with.--[[User:Taynio|Taynio]] ([[User talk:Taynio|talk]]) 16:44, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
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So.. You know the answer, right? ... I have a bad connection today, that's why I couldn't reply on your message at that time. About those episodes, it's getting more boring and terrifying as it advances, nothing to say more than that.[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 22:34, March 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:Agreed.. I think in the next episode, we might see a little improvement for the relationship between Kakashi and Yamato (or Tenzō to be exact) and how do he call him as (Kakashi-senpai) not (Kakashi-san) .... Hopefully we'll see Itachi in the next week of course. Otherwise, it would be some kind of crap. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 02:55, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Re: latest chapter opinion ==
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== Funny ==
   
I liked it because stuff happened. Sakura does indeed seem to be getting serious, but I'll only believe it when it happens. I found Sasuke's sudden ambition to become Hokage rather poorly done. If anything, I thought he would simply give up on destroying the village, save it to honour Itachi's wishes, and then he'd keep a distance. He'd protect it, but we would keep a distance, due to his resentment. Regarding Minato, I get how what happened would be possible, but I feel it cheapened his character. The great thing about Minato is that he was simply gifted, I feel that giving him that chakra mode feels like a crutch to his abilities, when he clearly shouldn't need one. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:34, May 23, 2013 (UTC)
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So, I clicked on your signature, not realizing it was a red link, and stared in confusion for like 30 seconds when it said your userpage didn't exist lol. Call me dumb, but I ''just'' noticed your avatar and I about laughed my ass off. That episode. Just. Holy crap. How the animation team messed that one up so badly, I have no clue, but that face cracks me up so much xD I just had to comment on it. So yeah. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 02:57, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
:I was sad that minato didn't retrieve the toad contract with Jiraiya's blood on it and have orochimaru summon him. He is the only missing link in teacher student lineage ;( [[User talk:Simant|S<small>im</small>A<small>nt</small>]] 00:51, May 23, 2013 (UTC)
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:So badly?! If you meant that scene, you're right. But for the whole episode, it's something different. I loved every scene of it by the way. Wakabayashi-chi, please come back. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 03:12, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
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:: That entire episode was terrible for me. They completely threw the manga out the window for that one. And the animation was just... >_> Meh. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 03:21, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Make an archive ==
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== Re:Oro infobox edit ==
   
Hey I would like to know how do I make an archive on my talk page. [[User:Inoyamanaka98|Inoyamanaka98]] ([[User talk:Inoyamanaka98|talk]]) 19:38, May 23, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98
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I still think that the Orochimaru situation is highly confusing, mostly due to what I believe to be Kishimoto's poor choice of words and seemingly contradicting statements. About the body, think like this: Orochimaru's lack of Sage Mode use was attributed to him not having the right body. How could he have created senjutsu chakra if he couldn't enter Sage Mode over the incapable body? For now, with canon statements only, those seem to be mutually excluding scenarios. The only says I can see this working is if the senjutsu chakra he created is even more imperfectly balanced than Jiraiya's, just enough to count as senjutsu chakra, but not enough to truly enter Sage Mode (if such a thing is possible), or if he can somehow create that chakra in another body, like putting his chakra in a capable body, control it to create the senjutsu chakra, and then take it back into himself. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:37, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
   
Thank you. [[User:Inoyamanaka98|Inoyamanaka98]] ([[User talk:Inoyamanaka98|talk]]) 19:47, May 23, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98
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== Re: Eternal Genin ==
   
== Timeline ==
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Where did he say that? Sorry I couldn't recall it, Elve-kun. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 11:37, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:Damn those assholes, show him some respect. I'll revert my edits there. And waiting for the raws for more confirmation because we have [[Kosuke Maruboshi|another eternal genin]]. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 11:43, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
Btw if you are still making a timeline, the chunin exams are held on the 1st of july, idk if that is the first of the year or the second time in the year, but that was what hiruzen said when konoha 12 took were about to take exams. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 04:25, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: some help sensei ==
   
Oh, and Idk if it was just the exam the 12 took or what but there is a month gap between the last part of the exam and the other parts, so it ends in august. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 04:27, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
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I would say that its debut would be the first time we saw him perform any sort of body transformation. We don't list Explosion Release as debuting when we actually learned the kekkei genkai's name, we list it as when it was earliest used. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 19:43, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:I think you might want to consider reorganizing the page. As a kekkei genkai page, that is going to be picked up by the kekkei genkai article, which will add an entry to it. The way you wrote the page, there's no good way to use summary tags to transclude a short description into the kekkei genkai article. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:02, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
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::I think a good image of Jūgo making a voluntary transformation is more appropriate. I don't think that cover pages should be used as anything other covers unless they're really the best image for to be used. I think that maybe even the clan image should be ok, since it shows a lot of people dealing with the effect. Maybe that shot of several of Orochimaru's prisoners in their level two transformations when they went to fetch Jūgo. About the information, you just need to rewrite it better. Take a look at other similar kekkei genkai pages, like Sakon and Ukon's. The kekkei genkai page will only pick up the information in summary tags. The kekkei genkai has no icon image named in the way that most other kekkei genkai do. Look at [[Kekkei Genkai]] and you'll understand what I mean. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:17, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
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:::I don't think we ever saw that again. It's not required for it to have one, but if it had to have one, I'd say something showing the pattern that spreads when they have the transformations. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:08, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
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::::And where do you think fluids come from? There is a particular passage I recall, but I can't find, that elaborates a bit more on the fluid part. Something like Orochimaru developing an enzyme based on the fluids, not him getting the enzyme already there from the fluid. Otherwise, he'd have to constantly get samples from Jūgo. Either way, calling them two separate abilities only complicates the situation unnecessarily. Cursed seal bearers aren't injected with the fluids as far as we know, for the same reason, Jūgo isn't drained every time for it. The passive intake of natural energy could be precisely why the seal is said to eat away the users chakra and evetually body and mind. The reason it forcibly draws chakra from its bearer is probably because it needs to balance out the natural energy, and since Jūgo gets transformations instead of petrification, cursed seal users do the same. Jūgo spreading his power to Sasuke's Susanoo created a senjutsu Susanoo. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:46, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Re: feedback ==
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== Re: I'm not blind ==
   
I don't think it's possible to discuss serious stuff with most of the people here. The case of Kakashi's age taught me that. Almost no one here is able to accept that they eventually could be wrong with what they're thinking. You're basically talking against walls most of the time. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 11:53, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
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I'm just moving in-town, need to find a new space to live and all that stuff. But since the PC is my top priority, I'll always find a way to go online :D<br />
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Anyhow, I think their bodies are special because of the stuff in their fluids and ultimately in their DNA. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:07, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
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:The fluids or whatever is in them causes the body to absorb natural energy and undergo the transformation. One thing, I'd say. But you know, this is a topic where we can't be 100% correct until we have more information. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 23:36, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
== On the Obito thing again ==
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I remember to have this explained multiple times... >.o [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:18, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
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:Well, it is undenieable that it has ''something'' to do with Oro's cells, hm? Otherwise, Kabuto's body wouldn't have changed after he injected them. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:13, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
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::We're on the same page, don't worry. It's just that I'm missing an explanation for what happened to the supposed Oro-takeover? And why's Kabuto always looking like that? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:39, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
The only info that supports Obito being 33-34 is the grad age numbers, but ONLY if you look at those alone. That's it. Chapter 599 and the Databooks Registration Numbers and Number Ages, combined with Grad Ages support Obito being 32-33 current time, I just don't understand why you don't see that Elve.. it's a mystery to me. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 15:34, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: character hyping ==
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[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kabuto_Yakushi?diff=859986&oldid=859983 Regarding this]: Because people like to do it to showcase how much they fanboy over a character xD --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 14:26, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Hmm ==
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== Re: why is it ==
   
I would agree on that, but the only thing Kishi has addressed was the stone face prob in the shonen jump and fixed it in a later in chapter mosaic, is the tankobon release out yet for chapter 599? and how many errors have been fixed in it? [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 16:04, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
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Cliffhanger, I guess. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 13:30, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
   
== hokage monument stuff ==
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== Re: Sasuke's Tsukuyomi ==
   
Susanoo thing is in the trivia, not too sure why either. Hanzō and the other manga images are an entirely different thing- that's just how it was decided to handle it. For the monument, there's no need to show an entirely correct depiction of a landmark and then show what the anime's done to it. It's not like it's in black and white. The hawk thing I agree with, but the last time I changed it, it was reverted, so I think you'll have to bring that up on the talkpage.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:37, May 26, 2013 (UTC)
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Because:
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* he never stated to have Tsukuyomi
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* he never stated to have used Tsukuyomi
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* if we debunk the A&T=S fact from the databook (because come on, it's old), him having Susanoo doesn't mean him having Tsukuyomi anymore
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* Danzō's statement compared Sasuke's Genjutsu (earth) to Itachi's Tsukuyomi (heaven)
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* When they were trapped in Kabuto's Genjutsu, why did Itachi use Tsukuyomi, but Sasuke did not? If a normal Genjutsu would've been enough, why did Itachi use Tsukuyomi?
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* If only a Sharingan user from Itachi's blood can break Tsukuyomi, how could Hachibi break it?
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[[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:54, April 1, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Re: Your skills are required ==
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== Re: 671 raw ==
   
「長門は千手の血統で外道魔像をマダラ以外に口寄せできる唯一の人物なのさ」<br />
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Na, it's not out yet. But the episode is and it was awesome. I love how they're so damn accurate with the timeline of events. Everything fits. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 11:55, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
"Nagato wa Senju no Kettō de Gedō Mazō o Madara igai ni Kuchiyose dekiru Yuiitsu no Jinbutsu nano sa"<br />
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:What's wrong? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:04, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
"Since Nagato descends from the Senju lineage, he's aside from Madara the only person who's capable of summoning the Gedō Mazō"<br />
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::The manga shows things different from databooks and anime, yes. But as I said before, I doubt that the anime makers don't talk to Kishimoto about the details, especially in a canon filler arc. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:22, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
[[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 13:00, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
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:::I say that if we have two options, one with 50% correctness and one with 70%, we should choose the one with 70%. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:30, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
:No, the literal translation would be "Nagato is a lineage of Senju" or so, but that would be senseless. Since you descend from a lineage, I've chosen that wording. You could simply say "Nagato is from the Senju lineage", though. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 13:15, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
::No, 降りる isn't used but I don't see why it should be? Does the meaning of the whole sentence changes when you use 'descends' instead of 'of' or 'from'? Whatever wording you choose, the meaning stays the same: Nagato and the Uzumaki clan are part of the Senju lineage. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:08, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Could you get me a raw for chapter 303? I only found the tankōbon raw where the text was deleted. Since the God Gate Jutsu seals aways the movements of the target, I'd say it's a sealing technique. Why would it be a barrier? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:10, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Yeah, I found that one, too. But it's still missing the raw text about the century-stuff. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:01, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::Unless I have a raw I can't take that into account. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:08, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
On an unrelated note, please explain to me why you think Black Zetsu is to White Zetsu what Bijū are to the Jūbi. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:15, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
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I totally don't get why they constantly said "their mother". Nothing indicates that Kaguya was Indora's and Ashura's mother. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:08, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
:I thought there was more behind it... well, good for me, though. I don't think you understand what exactly happened in both instances. There are slight differences between the Jūbi issue and the Zetsu issue. Black Zetsu wasn't made out of nothing, but out of White Zetsu and Madara's will. White Zetsu wasn't split like the Jūbi's chakra was, but created by cultivating Hashirama Senju's cells. It could be that White Zetsu was created with Yang Release. I know Madara said he created White Zetsu with YYR, but I can't think how that would fit with the rest of it. Furthermore, Madara's will would be Yin Release, wouldn't it? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:48, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
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:Na. They = mangastream. ''In the raw'', nothing indicates... [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:25, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
::mmh, wouldn't you say that Black Zetsu was created ''with'' White Zetsu, while the TB were created ''from'' Jūbi? Like this:
 
::Jūbi => Chakra and body parted => Chakra parted in nine parts and given life with YYR
 
::Hashiramas DNA => cultivated/formed with YinR => given life with YangR = WZ => WZ given "will" with YinR = BZ
 
::It seems to me that the Jūbi issue was kind of a separation, while the Zetsu issue was kind of a construction. The RS's doing goes from big (Jūbi) to small (Bijū), while Madara's doing goes from small (Hashi's cells) to big (Zetsu). [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:23, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Where am I wrong, then? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:37, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Madara didn't do any body forming when making BZ, did he? He did only mind forming, so only YangR. The body - White Zetsu - was already there. So where's the YYR? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:53, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::And there we have your mistake: BZ was created by pouring Madara's will into WZ's body. There was no glueing together, because there'd have to be two different bodies for that and he didn't grow from WZ body, either. BZ is like the evil side of Harvey Dent/Two-Face. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:16, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::::The problem is that WZ never had half his side missing. His arm and one eye were missing, but BZ isn't an artifical body. Check chapter 606, you can clearly see Madara's will crawling over WZ's body and on the next page that he even had a white leg before the will covered it and made it black. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:28, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::::It isn't YYR when there's no YinR involved. Also, Madara even said that Obito could take the ones created with YYR as his pawns, referring to the WZ. He didn't include BZ there for a reason. BZ and WZ were made separate entities by Madara, they were one WZ at the beginning. The Madara came and infused his will (YangR) into half of WZ's body and thus made BZ as a Mini-Me or so. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:45, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
That's a different topic :D I'm of course agreeing with you when it comes to the creation of the White Zetsus, that was YYR. But I don't know if it was BS, maybe Madara used YYR in a different way? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:10, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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They're called ''Tenseisha'', which literally translates to ''Reincarnation person'' or so. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:14, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
:Please don't jump to any conclusions with that. Madara is a YYR user, but no confirmed BS user. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:23, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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:Yes. They're chakra-reincarnations, not body-reincarnations. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:19, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
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::Over here, ''today'' is over in about two minutes, so... :D [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:58, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Re: welcome back ==
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== Re: infinite tsukuyomi portrayal ==
Haha, thanks, I've been following Naruto but haven't been on the wikia much, as you can see. I just saw the movie and thought I'd add some information. I've just been so busy that I haven't been able to show up much around here. I'll probably come back when Kishi reveals some more detail on chakra natures, haha. --[[User:GoDai|GoDai]] ([[User talk:GoDai|talk]]) 03:31, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Not too sure about those points in general, but I do think that the original Orochimaru was still sealed into the Sword. I'm not 100% sure how this all works overall, but I imagine it something like the mechanics for teleportation in shows like ''Stark Trek'' - The original person is destroyed and a copy containing an identical set of information is created elsewhere. Not exactly the same situation, but something like that. For example, if a soul is defined to be a singular entity residing in a certain set of information unique to an individual, then I guess you could say the original Orochimaru's soul now resides in this newly generated body. If not, this is just another Orochimaru with the same body and memories, who thinks he is Orochimaru, and in many ways, he IS Orochimaru now, since he is no different from the original besides continuity. It's somewhat confusing when you dig into the technical level. --[[User:GoDai|GoDai]] ([[User talk:GoDai|talk]]) 04:18, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
Interesting point, but that snake doesn't go to the Mountain's Graveyard to become Orochimaru, does it? I think it's some form of foreshadowing if anything at all. Unless you're correct and he somehow kept his consciousness free of the illusion. --[[User:GoDai|GoDai]] ([[User talk:GoDai|talk]]) 17:31, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Haha, but not much more information was added to the page; it was more of an update to brush things up. I think laying off the whole elements thing has cleared my mind quite a bit, and has been very helpful. I mean, when one keeps going at it at that sort of thing, one starts spitting out all sorts of forced-in, nonsensical ideas that don't even sound like elements. I'm still not sure if the Lava Releases are actually supposed to be different, since the anime portrayed lava for [[Lava Release: Melting Apparition Technique]] but the Japanese wikipedia still lists her Yōton as Corrosion Release (溶遁) and says it produces viscous acid slime which can harden... For now, I'm going with it being lava, since Kishi would have already raged if it was supposed to be acidic slime but the anime creators made it lava. For the different usages of Lava Release, my opinion is that it differs like a basic element would. Asuma used ash for [[Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning]] and dust for [[Wind Release: Dust Cloud Technique]], which has not been done by other shinobi. Likewise, many variations on the basic elements have been seen, and it is likely that advanced natures simply have such variations as well; we just don't see them as often because you need kekkei genkai to use them. --[[User:GoDai|GoDai]] ([[User talk:GoDai|talk]]) 01:14, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
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Huh? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 12:46, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:iDo, but I have no idea what you want from me. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 13:31, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
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::So...? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:26, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Why would a movie be canon? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:43, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
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::::You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. Canon is not decided by the author, but by the story. Everything that has happened in the main story is canon. Everything that happened in specials, movies and so is not canon. For example, it is canon that Kakashi was Yamato's senpai, but it's not canon that they met for the first time the way they did in the anime. Just because Kishimoto decides to think of a technique for a movie, it isn't a canon technique. Only if it's used in the main story, it's canon. Such as Raiga, for example. He was shown in an anime-only arc and wasn't canon until Kishimoto decided to draw him in the manga, making him canon. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 08:11, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Re: strength of a hundred seal ==
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==re:advice==
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not to be mean if you don't like what i put on my info don't look at it i put it there to let people know about me what should i do put straight on there and lie about who i am Shaduw-Chan 15:16, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
   
I explained how it works on the YS:R talk page. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:28, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: Stuff ==
   
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No, nothing indicates that she's an alien. And I don't know. The name from last chapter is pretty clear, I can't think of a reason any decent translator would eff it up. Or I'm not seeing the bigger picture, but I doubt that. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:18, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
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:Yes, ガ means ''moth'', but ガイ doesn't. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
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::Yes, it would also continue the "time"+"animal" line, hm? But it is as it is, I can't do much about it. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:34, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Blown Away ==
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== Re: Kudos ==
Whoa i must admit {Elveonora} i wasen't really expecting that from you and it must have been alot of work on your part and i must say i actually agree with you now on many things.I must say that that many people may be very impressed with your theory's and progress.But i just started on this wiki today so im still a novice but ounce people see this im positive people will be just as impressed as i was.[[User:Whiteraven1|Whiteraven1]] ([[User talk:Whiteraven1|talk]]) 19:29, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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Regarding [[Thread:121847#25|this post]]: "What you just wrote". Instead of leaving a post just to agree with someone else (which could be considered spam), it's better to click the Kudos button. Just a suggestion for future. :) --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:12, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
==RE: Page merger==
 
I'm all for a page merger, but we don't do votes here. I agree with your point of locks and keys not having same name or whatnot. — [[User talk:Simant|S<small>im</small>A<small>nt</small>]] 19:22, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi ==
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== Re: topic I'd really like your opinion on ==
I think that IS Shape Transformation.. {{User:Teppei Kiyoshi/Sig2|13:27, 6/4/2013}}
 
   
== Chunin Exam Info ==
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A Rasengan made of black and white/yin and yang chakra. Own technique, ofc. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:34, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:It's not alway black or white, Dantman already explained that a few days ago, didn't he? ;) [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:27, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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::A Rasengan is a Rasengan. A Tailed Beast Ball is a TBB. A TBR is a TBB used with the principles of a Rasengan. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:31, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hiruzen says "any genins you want to enter into the chunin exams?" in chapter 35 page 5, that means actual teams dont have to enter together, and that gai, ebisu and the other guy might have just been a makeshift temporary team for the team section of the exams. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 13:44, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
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No. I've had enough of discussing stuff like that. I can explain things to you if you want me to, but if you don't agree with my explanation, I simply don't care. It seems to me that many of us have forgotten that we're actually on the same side - we all want to make the wiki better. But I don't think that the current constellation of users is going to get the wiki anywhere, because each of us has his own mindset and most aren't able to think outside of the box. That includes me, by the way. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 22:47, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:I put it as a pure Lava Release technique by Naruto and Son, Naruto doesn't have the Yōton KKG or the basic natures for it. Also, all of Son's/Roshi's techniques aren't KKG. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 23:18, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
Ok so in chapter 38 Kakashi claims the test can only be taken by teams of 3, it's weird Hiruzen would lie about it. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 14:11, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
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::I just have to say, to both you and Elv, that Naruto "has" (emphasis on the quotation marks) katon and doton. Every person has access to the basic natures. What should be said is that he's never showed he can use them. As for the KKG/Youton, I'm not sure we can say anything atm. We've never understood the chakra natures of Son and etc. --[[User:Taynio|Taynio]] ([[User talk:Taynio|talk]]) 04:07, April 13, 2014 (UTC)
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:::He hasn't, I don't think you understand how the whole nature learning thing works, hm? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 11:02, April 13, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Re: age estimates ==
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== Re: Agree ==
   
Too much room for error, I think. For example, Killer B and Motoi, we list their ages because there are fewer indicatives, which give a precise age. The only concrete thing about Minato's age I know, without going through several comparisons, is that he was not 30 yet. I think the more comparisons and things we have to compare, the less reliable the end result will be. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:15, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
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Because until I posted that, I wasn't sure how to feel on the subject. But I worked out what is most logical: Naruto made a rasenshuriken, then Son Goku supplied Youton. Of course I can be wrong and Naruto made a rasenshuriken completely out of Youtan and without Fuuton. But it also means that we have to look at the context of things. While I do believe Son Goku supplied Youton, I also believe Naruto is a wielder of it due to having Son Goku inside of him. I believe that since Bijuu are chakra entities, despite being tangible and sentient, can be separated into minor portions of their chakra and still be inside every individual, meaning multiple jinchuuriki. We saw this in Kurama being split in half. Even now, the Bijuu talk to Naruto and behave as if 100% of every one of them were inside of Naruto. Anywho, tangents aside. I just take information as it is presented, and I'm willing to change when new information is presented. --[[User:Taynio|Taynio]] ([[User talk:Taynio|talk]]) 07:07, April 15, 2014 (UTC)
:Where was that stuff about Minato not being 30 years old said? o: [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:05, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
::ah, I see. Minato was born at most 31 years before Naruto's birth. Team Minato was established 9 years bNb, meaning Minato was at most 22 years old (31-9=22). He became Hokage 1 year bNb at the age of at most 30 years old and died at the age of 31. I'm saying "at most" all the time because he was younger than Kakashi, but we only have Kakashi's age to calculate with. Am I wrong somewhere? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:56, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Was he? Why do you think so? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:07, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: Kabuto question ==
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There are no "real" tailed beasts, though. It's why Gyuuki and Kurama weren't needed in their entirety to resurrect the Juubi. Because all the Bijuu are is chakra. Yes, they can talk, behave like they are flesh and blood, and perhaps even bleed. But at the end of the day, they're just chakra. Kurama was split in half, with Yang-Kurama in one, Yin-Kurama in the other. But both existed at the same time. By the logic you propose, that is impossible and there's only two possible outcomes in that direction: 1) Only one of them has the "real" Kurama, and 2) neither of them have the real Kurama. But both of them did have Kurama. Obito didn't just grab their chakra, he grabbed parts of the beasts and its why they appear to Naruto, talk to him, and give him chakra. Even a handful of their chakra is still them, its part of them. You misunderstand though, I think ,when I say they're "only chakra". They are just chakra, but as we know, chakra is a great, varied, magical thing. There are many kinds of chakra, too, and it can do many things. It just so happens in the bijuu case, it takes a form of life, but they were never born like normal creatures.
   
As I understand it, after Danzō decided to dispose of Kabuto, Orochimaru decided to keep him, having taken an interest in him long ago. I don't know what happened after Orochimaru took Kabuto under his wing. We didn't see what happened. All we know is that Kabuto kept working for Orochimaru ever since. The fake backstory would work for the general population and shinobi of Konoha, but Root would know. There are gaps to be filled. Maybe Orochimaru presented a fake body, or maybe Danzō figured that he wouldn't go through it because he suspected Orochimaru already had plans to leave the village (if that happened around the time Minato became Hokage), but it still wouldn't make sense for him not to take action against Kabuto. Maybe he figured that having someone he knew near Orochimaru would be interesting in the long run. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:30, June 13, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: Your argument ==
   
== Re: Katsuyu ==
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Anytime anyone disagrees with you, you call them an elitist. So, I just have learned to ignore that term. It means nothing to me. The opinion of the many outweigh the opinion of the one. Most were in agreement and it is the most logical conclusion. And yes, I take Seel's opinion very seriously because he can translate the literal Japanese, but I'm not afraid to disagree with him when I think he's wrong, given those exact same translations (i.e., back during the whole will materialization = black rods). I don't know where my sysop powers come into play, because I haven't used them in any of this and would be this way without them. End of story. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 17:20, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
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: They can chime in. No one is stopping them from doing so and there is a revert button in the case that, by some miracle, the argument is reversed and proven to the contrary. I doubt that, because, as I and the other three have already said, its the most logical, common sense conclusion given what we know about jinchūriki. That still doesn't give you the right to cry abuse and "elitism". I've seen "elitism" and being blunt and to the point on a talk page, crass as it sometimes maybe, is not "elitism". I'm not even going to get into abusing sysop powers. Abusing those would be locking the page to prevent anyone from editing because they don't agree with me, but you'll never see me even ''think'' of that as an option. Think before you speak. Think before you accuse. I may be blunt, but I'm not in anyway that kind of person. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 17:28, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
I can't really tell, I don't speak Japanese to associate words and such to traditionally feminine traits. Even them, it's not something as clear cut. If I'm not mistaken, Orochimaru commonly uses "watashi" to refer to himself, and watashi is traditionally feminine as well. ShounenSuki gave a list of some of those gender things once, including names that are traditionally associate with genders. I think Gaara's name is also traditionally used for women as well. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 13:58, June 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
I think you take things too literal sometimes. Zetsu noted that Nagato was from the Senju lineage (the Uzumaki). That's what the section was meant to convey, not that he had direct Senju blood. Still, the issue should be fixed now I believe yes?--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:19, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Oro Zetsu stuff ==
 
 
You can skip the sugarcoating :D Can you tell me the chapter and page number where that happens? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:51, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
:There are many discussions going on in the last weeks, huh? Well, to answer your question, the sound effect when Oro leaves his body is ドプッ ''dopu'', which is most likely a mistake. I think Kishi meant to write ドピュ ''dopyu'', which means ''spurting'', in this case of Oro's blood. The next one is ズッ ''Zu'', simply illustrating Oro's movement. The last one is ズズ ''Zuzu'', which is a "SFX for a slow maneuver, usually to emphasize and dramatize something deadly or of high importance/impact about to happen" http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/browse/zu/ :) [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:26, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
::I haven't read that discussion because I don't think most of the people here are able to actually discuss things. I also don't want to know what you're discussing, because I simply don't care. As it was with Suki-senpai, I'm not interested in Naruto that much. I'm doing this because I have fun translating stuff, not because I like the manga that much. The only interesting things about it is all the "background stuff", how chakra works and all this. The actual story is crap and I'm reading it only because I want to know how it ends. Well, sorry about this text :D Anything else I can help you with? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:39, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::I'm currently following Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, Gantz, Fairy Tail, Manga Love Story, Soul Eater, Soul Eater Not!, Deadman Wonderland, Toriko, Aiki and Shingeki no Kyojin. But I guess the problem with Naruto is that I kind of over-analyzed it. I lost the fun reading it after working with it that much because I can't read it like a random manga anymore. So it's probably a bit my own fault. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:28, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::It happened ove a longer period of time. I'm still interested in the stuff behind the scenes, but not in the actual story. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:07, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::Nah, I'm not going to leave you all alone. I'll do as much as my life allows me to do and also, compared to the German Narutopedia, this one is heaven. We've almost no editors over there so it became kind of my own project. But it's boring editing stuff when no one else does, that's why I'm working here most of the time. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:05, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Happy Birthday ==
 
 
Thank you. ^_^ [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] | [[User talk:Jacce|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacce|Contributions]] 15:29, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Thanks again. B| [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] | [[User talk:Jacce|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacce|Contributions]] 16:19, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Orochimaru's characterization ==
 
 
He has either an ulterior motive, or is using ulterior means to his same old motive. He got smart enough to notice that trying to achieve his goals the way he was doing was like pissing against the wind. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:05, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: red chakra ==
 
 
You'll never hear me state that the anime never counts, or agree to it. Long before you arrived on these shores it was manga, anime high so long it doesn't contradict manga, OVAs follow the same road as anime but less so, then movie and games.
 
 
With that out of the way, even if you want to ignore the anime, two completely different beasts having the same color chakra does in fact set a precedent. Until we are given a reason that this is ''wrong'' other than the all to common drivel of "uh we dunno lol!" then it is ''right''.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:31, June 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Chapter 635 raw images ==
 
 
Aye, now we need Seelentau to translate. Then we can proceed from there.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:39, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: community poll ==
 
 
What... are you talking about? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:23, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Oh, the poll. I never saw it. Fixed~ --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:41, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: volume 65 cover ==
 
 
I've sort of given a description in the edit summary. And actually, I can give a site: http://www.shonenjump.com/j/comics/. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:01, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: white snake possession ==
 
 
He says that "otherwise, my snakes will bind you, enter from your mouth and take over your bodies". Don't ask me if he or his snakes enter their bodies, I don't know. :/ [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:26, June 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: eye integration 0_0 ==
 
 
Shounensuki was asked a while back about this, he noted that both were used.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:58, July 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
If you can use hair trimmings to replicate cells and fix holes in someone's body I doubt the integration of eyes is a far cry from that. Why else would one sibling/person need to go around blind if they could just swap eyes and be done with it. However the procedure is done, if it's an integration literally how it sounds or not the bottom line is you don't have any eyes left over for other people after this. Else I don't see why Obito wouldn't have taken Sasuke's hand-me-downs for example.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:11, July 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: how could... ==
 
 
I don't know. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 09:25, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Jashin is a deity, we have never seen him, only his doing. I don't know if that counts as evidence of his existence, though. I'd say yes.<br />
 
The Shinigami is created through the Shiki Fujin and not a real entity floating around in another plane of existence. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:37, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
:I was busy the last few weeks, but now I've summer holidays and a bit of time at hand. I have no valid source for what I said, though. It's just my logical assumption. If he was a real entity, the Shiki Fujin would be a Summoning Jutsu, right? But it was never labeled as such, so... [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:19, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
::It's always the same Shinigami being created, that's why the souls are always with him. But by the logic of the new Narutopedia, we should create an article for the summoning of the Shinigami, since he isn't created with Shiki Fūjin, hm? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:30, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::As I said, if we consider him being a real entity, existing in another plane of reality, we'd have at least label him as a Summoning, if not creating an unnamed technique for his summoning. Or that's what the new NP would do now. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:39, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::It's just that the edits/discussions based on speculation took over in the last months. It's good that this is changing again. Anywaaaay, do you still have any question or unresolved matter? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:59, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::I don't like overused memes :D I can translate the databook entry for Fukasaku if you want me to~ [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:15, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
「自然と共生し、練り上げてきたチャクラは、齢800歳を超えながら衰えを知らず。」<br />
 
"Shizen to kyōseishi, neriagete kita chakura wa, yowai 800 sai o koe nagara otoroe o shirazu."<br />
 
"Co-existing with the nature, the chakra he kneads exceeds 800 years while being unaffected by a weakening."<br />
 
Or so... I don't know if that's 100% correct, though. To me it sounds like "by co-existing with the nature he kneads chakra since 800 years, not being affected by weakening" or so, meaning that he's 800 years old and still able to knead chakra. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:28, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Tobirama... ==
 
 
I've known this since forever. I remember when people called him the "fodder Hokage". Naruto's always an idiot to me, dunno what to make of that. I don't think Minato's technique is being overhyped it seems more deliberate than anything else to be used as a gimmick/comic relief especially with a name like that. If logic was presented in every story, there would have been no need for Harry to be the chosen one in a world where you say two words and someone dies, or the wasted trip to Mount Doom when there were giant eagles all along or any logical reason why someone didn't murder all the Lannisters sooner... You have to play by the rules that authors make.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:53, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Minato's imperfection is quite refreshing to me, you can't be entirely perfect. As the great scientist Mayuri Kurotsuchi said: perfection is boring. I'd be fine with getting more history about people like that. Minato's not a jinchūriki though. I never expected him to really be putting the chakra to much/the same use as Naruto. Then again this battle looks nowhere near finished. What I find interesting is what Sasuke hoped to accomplish with his Susanoo defence when before the lance destroyed its hand? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:35, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Re: in theory Edit

Yes. But if the enourmous use of Izanagi, which also requires Hashi's cells, is a fact, then there's of course the possibility that someone of those Uchiha knew how to use Kotoamatsukami. Either that or Itachi somehow knew it from Danzō. Seelentau 愛 19:10, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Chapter 658 Edit

LOL xD Yeah, I liked those scenes and you know, I hope that the same guy who animated Chibaku Tensei's episode will animate this part as well. Also the last panel of this chapter was really outstanding, he ripped out the poor Zetsu's arm and restored his right eye like nothing. Really amazing... —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 15:25, December 11, 2013 (UTC)

Exactly, by the way .... Tomorrow we have an episode which the battle between Naruto and his group vs. Tobi reaches its climax, it'll be an incredible episode, don't miss it. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 15:35, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with every point that you mentioned. It's time for Madara to start dancing with harmonic feeling to revenge. The main question for this chapter is how Madara could activate his Susanoo without his eye? I wonder about that... —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 18:38, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, no medical ninjutsu at all. As I recalled from his statement about Hashirama's ability to heal himself without using any seals. I think that Madara acquired some of those abilities from Hashirama besides gaining the senjutsu. As you know the Sage Mode helps its user to gain his strength so much as stated from Naruto's usage for Rasenshuriken and Kabuto's usage for his White Rage technique. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 15:11, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Obito VA Edit

Glad to agree with me, still we'll have to use this new voice and let's see how Takagi will deal with his new rule. And as you know, I'm be used to get excited for the anime more than the manga.... Madara, you saved the both of them in this week. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 11:50, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Re: tb question Edit

It's confusing, I know. Even when Kurama took over Naruto, he spoke with his mind, not opening his mouth. I like that kind of speaking and I can't imagine an entity like a tailed beast to speak as "swift" as a human, using its lips and everything. So I go with the mind speaking. Seelentau 愛 16:30, December 25, 2013 (UTC)

Dunno, I never really noticed it. You can't say how a human speaks just from drawings. So the weird kind of speaking without using the mouth is anime-only. Seelentau 愛 17:04, December 25, 2013 (UTC)

You've see this?? Edit

Kabuto is 22 here, so he was 17 5 years ago. I guess you could fit this into your Kabuto timeline?? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:48, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Try this one then ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:55, January 2, 2014 (UTC) kabuto sais it has been five years and sasori sais kabuto yakushi were you followed?Iloveinoxxx (talk) 17:56, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

This was about 6 months before Sasuke betrayed Oro, Gaara(January) and Naruto(October) were still 15, so Kabuto(February) was still 22. That means he was 17 5 years ago. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 18:09, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Kabuto stuff Edit

But... but all of my dates are backed up by the manga :(

Orochimaru left Konoha 3 years aNb, Kabuto became Genin 3 years aNb. We know that they left Konoha's ANBU together and that Orochimaru send Kabuto back to Konoha with the fake background.
Kabuto began to work for the ANBU five years earlier, meaning 2 years bNb, after having been found by Nono 2 years ago, meaning 5 years bNb. Why is it nonsense that he was two years old at that point?
Orochimaru left Akatsuki 6 years aNb, as stated in chapter 238 and 353, with Kabuto at his side.
Kabuto was a spy for Sasori after Orochimaru left Akatsuki, though Oro discovered Sasori's technique and made him his spy instead.

I didn't make this up, you know? o: Seelentau 愛 18:58, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, that's probably the meeting Kabuto mentioned five years later, but Orochimaru isn't there because he already left Akatsuki and Kabuto worked as Sasori's spy. Seelentau 愛 20:21, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
Because it's a timeline. First Oro wants to know about Akatsuki, then his time with Sasori in Akatsuki comes, then he's left Akatsuki and Kabuto works as a double spy. Seelentau 愛 22:34, January 2, 2014 (UTC)


No, you are all wrong. First, kabuto is 1 when he got picked up by nonou. After 3 years, he can be NEARLY 4 years old and at this point he has good medical ninjutsu. He would be trained by root to be a spy ONLY. And got sent on the mission. We can see that he had 4 different uniforms in different countries so we can take that he spend 1 year in each which adds up to 4 years and including the 1 year training, 5 year in total. Kabuto at age 8 (NEARLY 9) now meets orochimaru again who was suppose to kill him under danzou's orders. so this means that at this point, orochimaru is still part of konoha, the reason he dresses differently can be due to the fact that oro dont want to be seen wearing konoha uniform to his hideout and saving kabuto. We know that orochimaru left after minato died and before naruto is 4 thanks to kakashi anbu arc. when naruto is 4, kakashi would be 18 and yamato would be 14 and kabuto would be 12. Orochimaru left akatsuki when naruto was 6. Itachi would be 11 at that point and at 11, he is still a anbu, thanks to kakashi anbu arc again. He stayed in anbu untill he was 13, since kakashi did say that itachi became an anbu captain at age 13 and it is not long after he became anbu captain that he killed his clan, mostly within a year. we know that shisui is not dead yet when itachi is in the anbu. we know orochimaru left because he failed to get itachi's sharingan. We also know that anko is older than yamato since she is 24 in part I and kakashi is 26 during chuunin exams. yamato then would be 22. Anko is 5 years older than kabuto. So basically, oro picked a 8 year old kabuto up, anko at this point is 13 so she is already a chuunin but part of team orochimaru. he then took kabuto to konoha's academy who he graduated in 1 year. At this point, anko would already have gotton the cursed mark from oro. Shortly after this incident, mostly within a year, oro leaves the village only to be confronted by a nearly 16 year old kakashi and a nearly 12 year old yamato. --Matthewlauyh (talk) 17:24, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re: opinion Edit

Forum post comes later. My plan is quite big. But before I do anything I need to know what the other sysops think about the issue first.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 15:33, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Oh it is grandiose. And i'll prob get me in trouble. Hence why Im asking questions first. And I meant whatever means "drooling". I'm just a god tier speller and those discussion pertain to my interest.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 16:31, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Help Edit

Can you tell me how to archive my talkpage please and thanks. Munchvtec (talk) 15:58, January 8, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

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Kaguya Edit

The theory is found here:

http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=944476 Celebrei (talk) 23:27, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

Shiki Fuujin Kai Edit

Based on the talk page of Shiki Fuujin Kai, you also noticed that Orochimaru needed to be in front of the Tablet to unseal the Reaper, this is true, think about it: Sasuke said "Appearances (Naka Shrine) does not matter, the important item is downstairs, let's go" and we see Sasuke lighting the candles in front of the Tablet, and Orochimaru donning the Mask in front of the Tablet, even crouching in front of it to summon the Reaper, now why would Sasuke said the Uchiha Tablet was important if he didn't read it? unless, the immediate use of the Tablet was for the immediate purpose of unsealing the Reaper? now others argue that perhaps Sasuke read the Tablet off-panel, however this is very unlikely, when Hashirama asked Madara how he knew about the Shinju/Kaguya/Hagoromo story Madara replied "So it is written in the Uchiha Tablet" Hashirama would've at least an idea of where Madara learned this if Sasuke read the Tablet after his talk with the Edo Hokages (and Kishimoto would've shown Hashirama having a flashback of Sasuke reading the Tablet after the latter made his decision) but there wasn't, because Sasuke never read the Tablet, the importance of the Tablet (as Sasuke said) was to use it in conjunction with the Shinigami Mask to unseal the Reaper, and that is why Orochimaru took forever to unseal it and get his arms back if the Mask was the only thing needed, because he needed Sasuke's Sharingan to open the sealed door of the Shrine for the catalyst of the Mask to work: the Tablet.

This is Kishimoto's deliberate and ultimate form of obfuscation to hide the relationship the Uzumaki Clan has with Hagoromo. Celebrei (talk) 23:46, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

Tablet Edit

Well if all Sasuke and co. needed was privacy then why didn't they unseal the Reaper and summon the Hokages in the Uzumaki Mask Storage Temple? it's pretty much abandoned and would provide the same kind of privacy the Naka Shrine served.

And if we look at it from a logical and deductive perspective:

Orochimaru wanted to possess Sasuke, but even if he did possess Sasuke, the soul part of his arms would still be sealed inside the Reaper, so Orochimaru still needed to retrieve it, but in doing so would kill the host body (which is Sasuke) so what Orochimaru should have done is have one of his fanatical servants sacrifice himself/herself for him to wear the Mask and unseal the Reaper so he could get his arms back, of course he could have done this even before possessing Sasuke because if the sacrificial servant would unseal the Reaper for him the soul part of his arms would just go back to him anyway without harming his host, that is, if the Shinigami Mask was the only thing needed to unseal the RDS, so why didn't he do it before? answer: it's because Orochimaru couldn't, the Mask itself is not enough to unseal the Reaper.

What Orochimaru intended was to possess Sasuke and use his Sharingan to open the sealed door to the Naka Shrine and have of his servants sacrifice himself for him to unseal the Reaper to get his arm's soul back while preserving Sasuke's body, because the catalyst for the unsealing is inside the Naka Shrine: The Uchiha Tablet.

Also, one cannot argue that Orochimaru was the one who was necessary to perform the unsealing to get his arms back, for Orochimaru was determined to possess Sasuke even before he got his arms back, if Orochimaru was successful in possessing Sasuke, he would not dispose of his body, Orochimaru will not wait three years again to perform the Reaper Death Unseal and dispose Sasuke's body just to get his arms back since Sasuke's body is Orochimaru's prized possession, therefore, it only stands to reason that anyone performing the Reaper Death Unseal is sufficient to get his arms back once his arm's soul had been released from it. So why didn't Orochimaru have one of his lackeys unseal the Reaper before? because they don't have access to the Naka Shrine were the catalyst for the unsealing is: The Uchiha Tablet.

This is just too obvious to be wrong, so we just have to wait until Kishi reveals more about it. Celebrei (talk) 01:59, January 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Moveset Edit

I know know when exactly articles on video game jutsu began, but there were already here when I first joined. However, they had a lot of incorrect information, most of them were mistranslated. I corrected many of these old articles. We cover the franchise as a whole, and that covers the game. In my opinion, I think it's valid to cover individual game jutsu if the information is out there and available for consult to create the articles. There are others who think they're unnecessary as well, but as long as they're there, I rather they have the correct information, so I work on them when people make them. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:23, January 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Hell Edit

Yeah, that's true. This episode will be censored in the broadcast version according to Date-chi. But when this episode will be released in DVDs, it will be uncensored. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 11:24, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

The DVD is expected to be released in the next year. And about the spiral Zetsu, he has the same voice actor but the animator did some modifications on his voice to make it different. But Nobuo-san is very skillful voice actor and I like his rule so much. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 12:56, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
This episode was quite amazing for me. At least, the censorship wasn't that intensive and I really liked it. Megumi-san did a very good job in voice acting in this episode, despite her young age (24 years old) but still she did what should be done. And about the ending, I think it was very good and fits the ending of its manga chapter. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 15:30, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Like Edit

Use the "Hide logs" option. ~SnapperTo 18:53, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re: some of the dialogue Edit

Zetsu says "Anyhow, the contents are splendidly nice, hm?" or so. It's an easy sentence, but difficult to translate for me. I think it's about the Tailed Beasts or maybe about Obito inside Kuro Zetsu.
Madara says "Furthermore, a new "eye" is also being raised... though I don't know if it'll stick to my side", obviously referring to Sasuke. However, it doesn't make sense that he stabs him a few seconds later... Seelentau 愛 14:13, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

Eh, he noticed him earlier, but it's weird that he doesn't show any real intereset in Sasuke or vice versa. Madara's after Sasuke's eyes, nothing else. And no, I don't recall that anime scene, I didn't watch part I for a long time. Seelentau 愛 14:57, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
And why would that be Jūken? Seelentau 愛 18:21, January 20, 2014 (UTC)
But isn't Jūken a bit more than that? I mean, otherwise Kakashi's Double Raikiri against Kakuzu's Raitonjutsu would be Jūken too, huh? Seelentau 愛 19:03, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re: 2 things Edit

Trying to put more logic into the manga than it needs is what you're doing. I don't think the beasts have DNA, because they're basically Chakra. But what about Orochimaru? I don't understand what his abilities have to do with chakra and dna. Dunno about the life force thing. We're talking about stuff that only was hinted at and I'm currently not in the mood to think too deeply about Naruto and how everything works. Seelentau 愛 11:03, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Re: feiku Edit

tho ain't no word, tho Seelentau 愛 17:31, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Yahiko age source Edit

Seelan gave it. Munchvtec 13:26, February 3, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

The thing about Munchlax and rectum, yea real funny. Change whatever you want I wont change it back and also what do you mean by "For Your Sake "? Also you don;t have to be disgusting and rude about users behind there back like I wasn't going to see that comment. Munchvtec 16:40, February 3, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

it was on Itachiwasaheroes talk page the latest addition and im assuming he translated it because he said he would. Munchvtec 16:56, February 3, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

Re: Yahiko's age Edit

No, I did not translate that. However, I read it in the blog post and told it to Mister Omnibender. Seelentau 愛 17:10, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Charasuke Edit

It's not an episode at the very least, which is what the page was categorized as.

No opposition to its recreation, assuming anyone can find more about it. ~SnapperTo 19:51, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Found a download for it. Maybe someone wants to pester Seelentau to translate it? ~SnapperTo 19:58, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
You want me to translate a drama cd? What? Seelentau 愛 22:15, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
No need to fear, Kirin is hear! Hear is a brief summary of the CD: http://kohaya7kae-13.deviantart.com/art/Road-To-Charasuke-Official-SasuHina-Interaction-369209178. You can use this information to make the Charasuke page. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 23:50, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
ah, I see, so that's how it is. Well, as it is already translated, just do what you must. Seelentau 愛 09:27, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Re: just wondering Edit

I used to be an editor (and short-time admin) at the German PokéWiki, yes. But my interest faded after Generation IV. I still own a 3DS XL and Pokémon X, but I'm not into it anymore. Thinking of selling everything and buying some new pc components, but the memories... Seelentau 愛 08:41, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Pokemon Edit

Competitively, I think Chikorita was bad, or at the very least had the least opportunities to make stupid broken. Way back then though everyone was going for the Cyndaquil. Very few went for Totodile, and even fewer went Chikorita. But I loved that cute little green and yellow thing (Old Man Voice: Because in MY day, Chikorita was @#$&ing yellow and green!). After Chikorita though I started to exclusively pick up the water starters, so Mudkip, Piplup, Oshawott, Froakie, and whatever the next one will be. But Chikorita will always have a special place in my heart and hopefully my team.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 13:00, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

I always use the fire type as my starter. Dunno why :D--~UltimateSupreme 15:59, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
LOL. Not really, its just the right time that I login ;).
I never thought anyone would ever read the entire thing :D.
Nope, I just read manga nowadays that college has started. Might watch them all at once in holidays xD--~UltimateSupreme 16:27, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
Fun fact, Empoleon was actually the weakest starter of its gen, at least in comparison to the others. Mainly it's Steel and Water worked against it. It couldn't fight Impernape because steel is weak against fighting. It couldn't fight Totaria (or however its spelled) because Water is weak against grass.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 16:48, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
Its the most distinct starter too.--~UltimateSupreme 17:07, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
You may say I "was" a hardcore. Platinum, I would say. Played emerald for long time too --~UltimateSupreme 18:16, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re: timeline Edit

Yeah, gotta work on my timeline a bit, but let's finish this awesome arc first. ;) Oh and about Pokémon: I never watched the anime "for real", my fav version is HG/SS as well and I don't play it anymore because I don't enjoy playing singleplayer games anymore. I know there's a huge fanbase and multiplayer stuff, but that's too much for me. Dunno, maybe I grew out of it after all. Seelentau 愛 15:44, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

A bit Minecraft and a bit League of Legends. Currently I'm on gaming hiatus, gotta watch HIMYM. Yeah, Imma bit late on that one, but it's awesome nonetheless. Seelentau 愛 17:10, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re:HeyEdit

Charsasuke? The one CD drama that came along for Road to Ninja? I remember looking it up a while ago somewhere on Tumblr, but the translations were incomplete, so I just gave up looking at them since a fan did. It wasn't all the good to me, so I couldn't really use it was a source material. I've created pages before on the Narutopedia (mostly locations for Konoha), but I'm not sure if I'm up to task, though. ^_^; You said there were translations somewhere, right? Are the ones you're talking about accurate?--NinjaSheik 21:28, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I've just finished reading (well, skimming) over it. Lol! How weird! XD So, just so I understand what's on in this thing: the CD drama basically takes place shortly after Playboy Sasuke gave Sakura the rose in the movie. Hinata and Ino goes to Sakura's house. Hinata plans a group date to set Sakura and Sasuke up together in order to prevent Sakura from getting "Menma". Ino doesn't like the idea and wants to protect Sakura from getting hurt. She confides in Chōji and Shikamaru for advice, and they all agree to go on the date to protect Sakura. The date happens, the Ino-Shika-Chō trio acts desperately to prevent Sasuke from winning Sakura's heart and failing miserable at it while Hinata encourages Sakura's attraction to Sasuke by pointing out Sasuke's good points. Throughout this whole thing, Playboy Sasuke uses his Sharingan (lol! XD) on to help with the date and scare his fanclub away when they follow him to the restaurant. Near the end of the date, Ino uses Mind Transfer on Hinata, and makes her drags Sasuke away before he could get Sakura to himself. Playboy Sasuke misunderstands Hinata's behavior as jealously and thinks she likes him, Ino leaves, Hinata regains her conscious, Sasuke hits on Hinata, and Hinata sends Sasuke to the ground with a punch. Ino and Sakura have girl talk, Sakura says she had fun and goes to meet with Naruto, Ino-Shika-Chō pats themselves on the back for being there for Sakura. CD drama ends with Naruto passing by grumpy Playboy Sasuke after being socked by Hinata.

Did I get the gist of it? ^ __ ^--NinjaSheik 23:01, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Eh~? Seriously? Who creates a page and doesn't put anything on it? o__o Hmmm, I never created a page based off a merchandise, let alone for a CD Drama. It can't be too hard, right? Hmm, if no one else is going to do it, then I guess I can take a crack at it. But when I have time, so I'm busy with college and all. I even had a math test today (hoped I passed), and I have to study for my biology and music class tests this week (what a drag...-__-). But sure, I'll give it shot. I'll try to do it this weekend. :)--NinjaSheik 21:09, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

Aw, thanks. :)--NinjaSheik 04:56, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Rinbo: Hengoku issue Edit

You said Rinbo: Hengoku should be considered Deva Path jutsu on the fact policy discussion. I agree with you but others still don't believe it. Can you try to help?--Rinneganmaster (talk) 23:53, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Traffic Edit

I saw your question at Simant's talk page. The only traffic related info I know of is this. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:17, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

The Dashboard also has some quick stats which atm say 5.3M (weekly)
You can also request "Quantcast stats" from wikia.--~UltimateSupreme 17:25, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

If I may ask Edit

How in the he'll does a blind person even use a wikia?Munchvtec (talk) 22:25, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

I know and I don't treat blind people any different, there the same as us and thanks for the info anyways Munchvtec (talk) 22:36, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re: mystery solved Edit

Who... was that again? Seriously, though. There's no one I can think of that would make sense. Really no one. Seelentau 愛 22:50, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re: ._. just Edit

As it turns out, I am seriously reevaluating Karin. She demolished Spiral Zetsu. That was pretty unexpected. I've disliked Kabuto ever since he was revealed to be a villain. He was so cocky and snide, which was, up until he became Kabutomaru, completely without foundation since he was nothing more than a bookworm before then. I felt least connected with him. Even with Obito, which people give more hate than necessary, I can connect with the guy and understand why he went bad. But with Kabuto it was just like... I don't know. He felt lacking. More like his reasons for going evil were completely for his own ego. Yeah, there was all that junk about Nono, but still felt extremely lacking for the massive **** he became. At least Obito, in his Tobi and Madara persona, was a total badass. Suigetsu and Jugo kinda have the same reasoning behind them. They were built up as these super elite experiments of Orochimaru and ended up becoming fodder (which was also my original reason for hating Karin). They came in practically to be Sasuke's b****es and have remained such ever since. Suigetsu hasn't had a truly defining moment yet, and even Jugo's rampage at the Kage Summit wasn't all that impressive.

Overall, I tend to enjoy the characters I can connect to, emotionally, intellectually, or whathave you, better than the characters who just have flashy moves or are built up to be "superior" when they're introduced. Even characters like Minato I can't enjoy, because for all he was built up to be, the guy is kinda lacking, which I guess Kishi did on purpose, from Tobirama's numerous comments. Anywho, that's my take on it. Glad my avitar got a reaction out of you XD ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 04:55, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Very true. And you're right. I am very bias towards Obito. Definitely more so than Kabuto. I don't think I'd hate Kabuto so much, if I had known his reasons earlier on. But I'm bias towards Obito because I get him. I don't fully understand Kabuto, likely because I've never been in a similar situation to him, so its a mismatch. But with Obito, its like, growing up in a family where I was mostly ignored compared to my siblings, I know what its like to be completely overlooked and to have your accomplishments put second or even last to others around you. And I know what its like to care about someone, not necessarily a love interest, but someone of great importance and have them ripped away. Its a much more hollowing feeling than most people understand. Doesn't mean I'd dawn a mask and declare war on the world, but I guess what I'm trying to say is I can understand how he eventually could follow the trail of thoughts to that mentality. Wow... that was much more sentimental than I intended it to be. Maybe I read into this manga too much >_<
On Suigetsu's situation, yeah, he definitely did a cool thing by taking a Bijudama for his comrades, but in the scope of things, it wasn't a "defining moment" that made me really respect his character. Because Suigetsu and Jugo could've become major players and, in the end, it seems that all Kishi used them for was furthering Sasuke's ambitions. That's the only times they were ever relevant plot-wise and that sorta irked me.
And then there's Minato. I mean, I was one of those fanboys that, pre-his resurrection, thought he was just some massive badass because of the way Kishimoto built him up. Literally since the beginning of the manga we were lead to believe that Minato was just this Ninja Jesus and it turns out, in fact, that he pales in comparison to even his son. I like him personality wise, but, when observing the past three Hokage, I actually wonder how he was ever made Hokage. He doesn't seem near the same level, though that could just be his age. That's just me though. I'm kinda weird in how I judge characters, so there's that ~_~ ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 03:22, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
Amen. Really curious to see what happens this week, though. Looks like Madara is really steamrolling everyone. It'll be interesting to see how Kishimoto brings Naruto out of this one. My hopes are that Saukura uses the One's Own Life Reincarnation on him and kicks the can herself >_> A man can dream, right? ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 04:20, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
I sure hope so. And yeah, I see Sasuke awakening the Rinnegan myself. I started predicting that way back when he got his EMS, but now it seems more likely than ever. I'm really curious as to who this mysterious person is approaching Sasuke, so I hope Kishi doesn't keep us in suspense too long concerning that guy. Could be Kabuto, but personally I don't believe it is, since Karin didn't recognize the chakra and even Orochimaru seemed concerned. Here's to hoping its somebody epic. All in all, yeah. I'm pretty happy with Kishimoto lately. He seems to really be on a roll. Let's hope he keeps it up right through to the end. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 16:39, February 16, 2014 (UTC)

O' great Edit

Lol I hope you were being sarcastic with him. His ego doesn't need to get any worse. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 15:42, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re: for it Edit

DARY! eh, wrong series, sorry. It was Obito who persuaded Yahiko, not Madara. Seelentau 愛 07:57, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

It wasn't a lie. The anime confirms that, hm? Seelentau 愛 15:38, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
...oh, well, you're right. I don't recall Obito ever talking to Yahiko aside from that one time... so maybe it was Madara? But Madara should've been tied to the statue at that time... Seelentau 愛 15:51, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
Technically, he didn't lie, because everyone assumed that he was Madara at that point. Seelentau 愛 15:56, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

The answer Edit

Okay so how would you know if I knew the answer or not I would not have asked the question if I didn't know the answer but aside from that what's up with video game overhaul thing, I'd like to know what's gonna happen if you know the answer to that. Munchvtec (talk) 21:02, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

Okay thanks and again with the video game thing do you know what's gonna happen there at all or no. Munchvtec (talk) 21:10, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Nawaki and Dan's deaths Edit

Nawaki died in a battle or so, Dan during the second WW. Seelentau 愛 14:16, February 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re: tracks' name translation Edit

Sorry, I'm kinda busy at the moment^^ Ours are correct. Seelentau 愛 17:06, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re: wait Edit

So.. You know the answer, right? ... I have a bad connection today, that's why I couldn't reply on your message at that time. About those episodes, it's getting more boring and terrifying as it advances, nothing to say more than that. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 22:34, March 6, 2014 (UTC)

Agreed.. I think in the next episode, we might see a little improvement for the relationship between Kakashi and Yamato (or Tenzō to be exact) and how do he call him as (Kakashi-senpai) not (Kakashi-san) .... Hopefully we'll see Itachi in the next week of course. Otherwise, it would be some kind of crap. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 02:55, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Funny Edit

So, I clicked on your signature, not realizing it was a red link, and stared in confusion for like 30 seconds when it said your userpage didn't exist lol. Call me dumb, but I just noticed your avatar and I about laughed my ass off. That episode. Just. Holy crap. How the animation team messed that one up so badly, I have no clue, but that face cracks me up so much xD I just had to comment on it. So yeah. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 02:57, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

So badly?! If you meant that scene, you're right. But for the whole episode, it's something different. I loved every scene of it by the way. Wakabayashi-chi, please come back. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 03:12, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
That entire episode was terrible for me. They completely threw the manga out the window for that one. And the animation was just... >_> Meh. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 03:21, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Oro infobox edit Edit

I still think that the Orochimaru situation is highly confusing, mostly due to what I believe to be Kishimoto's poor choice of words and seemingly contradicting statements. About the body, think like this: Orochimaru's lack of Sage Mode use was attributed to him not having the right body. How could he have created senjutsu chakra if he couldn't enter Sage Mode over the incapable body? For now, with canon statements only, those seem to be mutually excluding scenarios. The only says I can see this working is if the senjutsu chakra he created is even more imperfectly balanced than Jiraiya's, just enough to count as senjutsu chakra, but not enough to truly enter Sage Mode (if such a thing is possible), or if he can somehow create that chakra in another body, like putting his chakra in a capable body, control it to create the senjutsu chakra, and then take it back into himself. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:37, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Eternal Genin Edit

Where did he say that? Sorry I couldn't recall it, Elve-kun. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 11:37, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Damn those assholes, show him some respect. I'll revert my edits there. And waiting for the raws for more confirmation because we have another eternal genin. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 11:43, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re: some help sensei Edit

I would say that its debut would be the first time we saw him perform any sort of body transformation. We don't list Explosion Release as debuting when we actually learned the kekkei genkai's name, we list it as when it was earliest used. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:43, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

I think you might want to consider reorganizing the page. As a kekkei genkai page, that is going to be picked up by the kekkei genkai article, which will add an entry to it. The way you wrote the page, there's no good way to use summary tags to transclude a short description into the kekkei genkai article. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:02, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
I think a good image of Jūgo making a voluntary transformation is more appropriate. I don't think that cover pages should be used as anything other covers unless they're really the best image for to be used. I think that maybe even the clan image should be ok, since it shows a lot of people dealing with the effect. Maybe that shot of several of Orochimaru's prisoners in their level two transformations when they went to fetch Jūgo. About the information, you just need to rewrite it better. Take a look at other similar kekkei genkai pages, like Sakon and Ukon's. The kekkei genkai page will only pick up the information in summary tags. The kekkei genkai has no icon image named in the way that most other kekkei genkai do. Look at Kekkei Genkai and you'll understand what I mean. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:17, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
I don't think we ever saw that again. It's not required for it to have one, but if it had to have one, I'd say something showing the pattern that spreads when they have the transformations. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:08, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
And where do you think fluids come from? There is a particular passage I recall, but I can't find, that elaborates a bit more on the fluid part. Something like Orochimaru developing an enzyme based on the fluids, not him getting the enzyme already there from the fluid. Otherwise, he'd have to constantly get samples from Jūgo. Either way, calling them two separate abilities only complicates the situation unnecessarily. Cursed seal bearers aren't injected with the fluids as far as we know, for the same reason, Jūgo isn't drained every time for it. The passive intake of natural energy could be precisely why the seal is said to eat away the users chakra and evetually body and mind. The reason it forcibly draws chakra from its bearer is probably because it needs to balance out the natural energy, and since Jūgo gets transformations instead of petrification, cursed seal users do the same. Jūgo spreading his power to Sasuke's Susanoo created a senjutsu Susanoo. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:46, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re: I'm not blind Edit

I'm just moving in-town, need to find a new space to live and all that stuff. But since the PC is my top priority, I'll always find a way to go online :D
Anyhow, I think their bodies are special because of the stuff in their fluids and ultimately in their DNA. Seelentau 愛 20:07, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

The fluids or whatever is in them causes the body to absorb natural energy and undergo the transformation. One thing, I'd say. But you know, this is a topic where we can't be 100% correct until we have more information. Seelentau 愛 23:36, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

I remember to have this explained multiple times... >.o Seelentau 愛 19:18, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Well, it is undenieable that it has something to do with Oro's cells, hm? Otherwise, Kabuto's body wouldn't have changed after he injected them. Seelentau 愛 22:13, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
We're on the same page, don't worry. It's just that I'm missing an explanation for what happened to the supposed Oro-takeover? And why's Kabuto always looking like that? Seelentau 愛 22:39, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re: character hyping Edit

Regarding this: Because people like to do it to showcase how much they fanboy over a character xD --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 14:26, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

Re: why is it Edit

Cliffhanger, I guess. Seelentau 愛 13:30, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Sasuke's Tsukuyomi Edit

Because:

  • he never stated to have Tsukuyomi
  • he never stated to have used Tsukuyomi
  • if we debunk the A&T=S fact from the databook (because come on, it's old), him having Susanoo doesn't mean him having Tsukuyomi anymore
  • Danzō's statement compared Sasuke's Genjutsu (earth) to Itachi's Tsukuyomi (heaven)
  • When they were trapped in Kabuto's Genjutsu, why did Itachi use Tsukuyomi, but Sasuke did not? If a normal Genjutsu would've been enough, why did Itachi use Tsukuyomi?
  • If only a Sharingan user from Itachi's blood can break Tsukuyomi, how could Hachibi break it?

Seelentau 愛 12:54, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re: 671 raw Edit

Na, it's not out yet. But the episode is and it was awesome. I love how they're so damn accurate with the timeline of events. Everything fits. Seelentau 愛 11:55, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

What's wrong? Seelentau 愛 12:04, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
The manga shows things different from databooks and anime, yes. But as I said before, I doubt that the anime makers don't talk to Kishimoto about the details, especially in a canon filler arc. Seelentau 愛 12:22, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
I say that if we have two options, one with 50% correctness and one with 70%, we should choose the one with 70%. Seelentau 愛 12:30, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

I totally don't get why they constantly said "their mother". Nothing indicates that Kaguya was Indora's and Ashura's mother. Seelentau 愛 15:08, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Na. They = mangastream. In the raw, nothing indicates... Seelentau 愛 17:25, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

They're called Tenseisha, which literally translates to Reincarnation person or so. Seelentau 愛 19:14, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Yes. They're chakra-reincarnations, not body-reincarnations. Seelentau 愛 21:19, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
Over here, today is over in about two minutes, so... :D Seelentau 愛 21:58, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Re: infinite tsukuyomi portrayal Edit

Huh? Seelentau 愛 12:46, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

iDo, but I have no idea what you want from me. Seelentau 愛 13:31, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
So...? Seelentau 愛 14:26, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
Why would a movie be canon? Seelentau 愛 16:43, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. Canon is not decided by the author, but by the story. Everything that has happened in the main story is canon. Everything that happened in specials, movies and so is not canon. For example, it is canon that Kakashi was Yamato's senpai, but it's not canon that they met for the first time the way they did in the anime. Just because Kishimoto decides to think of a technique for a movie, it isn't a canon technique. Only if it's used in the main story, it's canon. Such as Raiga, for example. He was shown in an anime-only arc and wasn't canon until Kishimoto decided to draw him in the manga, making him canon. Seelentau 愛 08:11, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

re:adviceEdit

not to be mean if you don't like what i put on my info don't look at it i put it there to let people know about me what should i do put straight on there and lie about who i am Shaduw-Chan 15:16, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Stuff Edit

No, nothing indicates that she's an alien. And I don't know. The name from last chapter is pretty clear, I can't think of a reason any decent translator would eff it up. Or I'm not seeing the bigger picture, but I doubt that. Seelentau 愛 10:18, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, ガ means moth, but ガイ doesn't. Seelentau 愛 10:26, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, it would also continue the "time"+"animal" line, hm? But it is as it is, I can't do much about it. Seelentau 愛 10:34, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Kudos Edit

Regarding this post: "What you just wrote". Instead of leaving a post just to agree with someone else (which could be considered spam), it's better to click the Kudos button. Just a suggestion for future. :) --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 12:12, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re: topic I'd really like your opinion on Edit

A Rasengan made of black and white/yin and yang chakra. Own technique, ofc. Seelentau 愛 19:34, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

It's not alway black or white, Dantman already explained that a few days ago, didn't he? ;) Seelentau 愛 20:27, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
A Rasengan is a Rasengan. A Tailed Beast Ball is a TBB. A TBR is a TBB used with the principles of a Rasengan. Seelentau 愛 22:31, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

No. I've had enough of discussing stuff like that. I can explain things to you if you want me to, but if you don't agree with my explanation, I simply don't care. It seems to me that many of us have forgotten that we're actually on the same side - we all want to make the wiki better. But I don't think that the current constellation of users is going to get the wiki anywhere, because each of us has his own mindset and most aren't able to think outside of the box. That includes me, by the way. Seelentau 愛 22:47, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

I put it as a pure Lava Release technique by Naruto and Son, Naruto doesn't have the Yōton KKG or the basic natures for it. Also, all of Son's/Roshi's techniques aren't KKG. Seelentau 愛 23:18, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
I just have to say, to both you and Elv, that Naruto "has" (emphasis on the quotation marks) katon and doton. Every person has access to the basic natures. What should be said is that he's never showed he can use them. As for the KKG/Youton, I'm not sure we can say anything atm. We've never understood the chakra natures of Son and etc. --Taynio (talk) 04:07, April 13, 2014 (UTC)
He hasn't, I don't think you understand how the whole nature learning thing works, hm? Seelentau 愛 11:02, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Agree Edit

Because until I posted that, I wasn't sure how to feel on the subject. But I worked out what is most logical: Naruto made a rasenshuriken, then Son Goku supplied Youton. Of course I can be wrong and Naruto made a rasenshuriken completely out of Youtan and without Fuuton. But it also means that we have to look at the context of things. While I do believe Son Goku supplied Youton, I also believe Naruto is a wielder of it due to having Son Goku inside of him. I believe that since Bijuu are chakra entities, despite being tangible and sentient, can be separated into minor portions of their chakra and still be inside every individual, meaning multiple jinchuuriki. We saw this in Kurama being split in half. Even now, the Bijuu talk to Naruto and behave as if 100% of every one of them were inside of Naruto. Anywho, tangents aside. I just take information as it is presented, and I'm willing to change when new information is presented. --Taynio (talk) 07:07, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

There are no "real" tailed beasts, though. It's why Gyuuki and Kurama weren't needed in their entirety to resurrect the Juubi. Because all the Bijuu are is chakra. Yes, they can talk, behave like they are flesh and blood, and perhaps even bleed. But at the end of the day, they're just chakra. Kurama was split in half, with Yang-Kurama in one, Yin-Kurama in the other. But both existed at the same time. By the logic you propose, that is impossible and there's only two possible outcomes in that direction: 1) Only one of them has the "real" Kurama, and 2) neither of them have the real Kurama. But both of them did have Kurama. Obito didn't just grab their chakra, he grabbed parts of the beasts and its why they appear to Naruto, talk to him, and give him chakra. Even a handful of their chakra is still them, its part of them. You misunderstand though, I think ,when I say they're "only chakra". They are just chakra, but as we know, chakra is a great, varied, magical thing. There are many kinds of chakra, too, and it can do many things. It just so happens in the bijuu case, it takes a form of life, but they were never born like normal creatures.

Re: Your argument Edit

Anytime anyone disagrees with you, you call them an elitist. So, I just have learned to ignore that term. It means nothing to me. The opinion of the many outweigh the opinion of the one. Most were in agreement and it is the most logical conclusion. And yes, I take Seel's opinion very seriously because he can translate the literal Japanese, but I'm not afraid to disagree with him when I think he's wrong, given those exact same translations (i.e., back during the whole will materialization = black rods). I don't know where my sysop powers come into play, because I haven't used them in any of this and would be this way without them. End of story. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 17:20, April 16, 2014 (UTC)

They can chime in. No one is stopping them from doing so and there is a revert button in the case that, by some miracle, the argument is reversed and proven to the contrary. I doubt that, because, as I and the other three have already said, its the most logical, common sense conclusion given what we know about jinchūriki. That still doesn't give you the right to cry abuse and "elitism". I've seen "elitism" and being blunt and to the point on a talk page, crass as it sometimes maybe, is not "elitism". I'm not even going to get into abusing sysop powers. Abusing those would be locking the page to prevent anyone from editing because they don't agree with me, but you'll never see me even think of that as an option. Think before you speak. Think before you accuse. I may be blunt, but I'm not in anyway that kind of person. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 17:28, April 16, 2014 (UTC)

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