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== Re: hello ==
   
== talkpage ==
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Hi, Elveonora. I'm sorry that this is months late, but as you have noted, I have not been here for a while. However, be assured, as I have dropped in occasionally to observe progress; I've just been quite busy with studies and work, but you are also right about me somewhat giving up on Naruto - It's not entirely true, as I have enjoyed the series, but I had to lay off for a bit because my expectations and attachments had become too large. Of course, I have also been following the series, and while there were large disappointments along the way, I feel alright with how it ended.
much better now! ;)[[Special:Contributions/79.223.85.106|79.223.85.106]] ([[User talk:79.223.85.106|talk]]) 16:33, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
:hey am I blocked now? your answer to this would be your 4k edit! :D[[Special:Contributions/79.223.68.89|79.223.68.89]] ([[User talk:79.223.68.89|talk]]) 18:22, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: a dumb question ==
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I had also been working as a translator for the Korean webcomic series Tower of God, so that was also a thing that had me occupied.
   
It [http://tangorin.com/general/秘伝 is] a word in Japanese. It's a word that is rarely used outside of fiction. You can see a few topics, including a very long topic about it at Hiden's talk page. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:32, March 17, 2013 (UTC)
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To try and answer your questions:
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* I still personally feel like black lightning was meant to be the Lightning variant of Amaterasu. Seeing how the recent databook translations by Seelentau have revealed Amaterasu and Blaze Release to just be a stronger modified Fire, I'd imagine that black lightning was intended to be a stronger Lightning Release in a similar manner.
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* My current guess for "Magnet Release" is that it isn't the simplest form of magnetism that we imagine. While magnetism falls under it, I'm guessing that the "磁" may have been expanded to include "forces" (all that Naruto science) that move other metallic or earthen materials. As far as I'm aware, gold is only weakly diamagnetic as well, but it was controlled on almost the same scale as iron sand was. In conclusion, I believe that this is just like the Lava, Storm and Boil Releases in that its name isn't always literally what it does (I was always a fan of the "The nature name is only symbolic" thing.). While unconfirmed, I believe that the appearance of Magnetism+sand on [[Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken]] is good evidence for believing that that is how sand is manipulated.
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* I have no choice but to concede to Kishi's classification of Blaze Release. One of the minor reasons for my leave was because coming here too often twisted and limited my thoughts, and I often found clarity when I had ceased rambling on in a hurry to fill ideas. At this stage, considering the general connotation of the character "炎" (flame) in Japanese, Chinese and Korean, it makes the most sense for it to be a stronger Fire, and nothing more. I would, however, still assume that "Blaze" is Sharingan-based, since I don't imagine Sasuke using it without the dōjutsu. However, we'll probably never know.
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* The pattern theory (if true at all) requires that that Wind+Lightning be "Wind modified by Lightning" or "Wind with properties of Lightning", so as long as your interpretation of Magnetism agrees with this, it seems possible to not disagree. However, I would personally stick to Lightning+Earth, although I have no idea how Kishi views Magnetism.
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** (Of course, the recent revelation that it's highly likely to be Earth+Wind kills our discussion, I suppose.)
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* I was once a proponent of the idea that Fire+Lightning=Blaze, because I felt that lightning's charged plasma nature would "enhance" fire to produce solar plasma, which in this case was expressed as black flames (because Kishi thinks black fire looks cool). In an alternative interpretation, Amaterasu is only fire, but so hot that it's charged - Lightning thus allows one to manipulate it. (Not that any of this is valid anymore, seeing the recent classifications.) If this ''was'' true, however, it would not disagree with the pattern theory.
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Again, I apologize for being so late; I may be around a tad bit more often, so please do feel free to chat me up. --[[User:GoDai|GoDai]] ([[User talk:GoDai|talk]]) 03:46, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Edits==
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I just travelled quite a bit as a child, so I was able to loosely learn a few languages during my earlier life. I certainly don't think that it's anything special, and even if it was a talent, we all have that in some area. Now, onto ''Naruto''-related business:
Hi, Elveonora, I just wanna to say that sorry about my edits. From now, Im gonna to mark them as minor edit. Greetings. [[User:Leo Hatake|Leo Hatake]] ([[User talk:Leo Hatake|talk]]) 16:35, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
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* I would feel better about Blaze and Black Lightning if the "strengthening" was just caused by a combination with Yin or Yang. However, Darui and the Third Raikage were not recorded as users of Yin or Yang, so that seems unlikely. Seems like we do need to go with the "stronger version" idea, unless Black Lightning is not really like Amaterasu. Perhaps [[Gengetsu]]'s oil-like water could be a similar sort of "stronger version".
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* My current idea for Magnet Release is that the Wind nature represents an invisible force that acts on objects from a distance, causing them to float, as seen in the Ice and Scorch natures. If floating ice panels and floating fireballs can be created, it seems that Magnet Release controlling floating earth (sand, metals) is possible. If so, then the name "Magnet" would just be symbolism for forces that move earthen materials and Magnet Release would encompass both normal magnetism (for iron sand, Toroi's technique) and other unspecified forces (for gold dust, sand). This new definition would be okay with my pattern theory, as Earth would still enhance Wind (to make an invisible earth-controlling force, similar to my "solidified air" theory for sand) and the result would be "opposite" to Lightning, possibly meaning that Lightning and Magnetism oppose each other (Lightning would revert Magnetism to Wind, according to the pattern theory).
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** While we tend to think of magnets as being related to electricity in modern times (electromagnetism), it is likely that people in old times didn't know about the relationship, and simply believed magnets to be rocks that could push other rocks with this mysterious pressure (that's what it feels like when I play with magnets, anyway), so perhaps Kishimoto's combination makes sense. I support the idea that the natures are named in a ''traditional'' manner, while the effects of the Releases' techniques are more technical. (I use Storm as strong evidence of that.) It's true that the Naruto world has advanced technology, but I think most of the technique names are named in ways that invoke ''old-language'' uses.
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** Of course, the above is just my theory and for now, we should not label any of Gaara's techniques as Magnet Release in my opinion. Kishimoto has occasionally redefined things (like Amaterasu) but until such a move is made, it seems that sand-based techniques should remain considered non-elemental.
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* I personally liked it better when the Tailed Beast Skills were just unique abilities, with Son being the only one possessing an advanced nature. However, I did share your idea that the Tailed Beasts, Ten-Tails included, would have the ten natures, when it was revealed that Shukaku had Magnet Release (and consequently Kokuō with Boil). I always did feel that Wood's mysterious relation to Tailed Beasts was a hint of sorts, and I suppose that the Shinju cleared that up. I don't know if Kishimoto is actually going to follow through with our expectations (since he's great at that), but if I was forced to match them up, I'd say the following (I don't have strong confidence in them, at all):
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** Isobu would have Ice. I can imagine it using [[Demonic Ice Crystal Mirrors | ice mirrors]], since Yagura used the [[Water Release: Water Mirror Technique]].
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** Gyūki's beam-like techniques in video games seem similar to Storm Release to me, so it seems okay to guess that Gyūki has Storm. The octopus-like shape could explain the Water component. The ink might also be symbolically connected to dark storm clouds (reminiscent of the movie's usage of Storm).
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** Chōmei would have my Wind+Lightning combination, a super-vibration sort of nature, since insect wings do that. Wind+Lightning also reminds me of light, and that might connect to the insect scales.
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** Kurama is a nine-tailed fox, which also bears connections to ghostly fire, and could have Scorch. Otherwise, Explosion would be my guess, given Kurama's connection to disasters. I suppose it could trade Explosion for the Wind+Lightning I gave to Chōmei.
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** Matatabi would be given Explosion... for now. Ideally, it would be given Scorch, due to its being a bakeneko and its relation to ghostly fire. (I actually want to give it Dark Release due to using [[Dark Release: Judgment | ghostly blue flames]], but I must hold off unless Dark is shown to be canon.)
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** Saiken... since Earth+Lightning failed to be Magnet, it might be something that has a connection to alkaline substances (since they're earthen and can [[Exploding Bubble | explode]]), but this is a weak theory. If Earth enhances Lightning, it might form a different kind of force that can turn earth into a soapy or alkaline substance. If I recall correctly, my theory on [[Soap Bubble Ninjutsu]] was that it combined Saiken's natural alkali and Utakata's Water nature. It's possible now that the natural alkali is this unexpected combination. Then, just like how Deidara combines Explosion (Fire+Lightning?) and Earth to make [[Exploding Clay]], Utakata would combine "Alkali" (Earth+Lightning?) and Water to make his special soap bubbles.
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* Anyway, that was just me rambling, since I haven't thought too deeply about it, so don't trust that it's my final thoughts on everything. Again, I don't quite strongly believe in it. As for the pattern theory, it's still alive for me; I'll just need to update it when I actually have time.
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If you would like to know what I want from ''Naruto'' now, I simply want closure regarding this elemental matter, because it's a big part of why I got into Naruto in the first place. I was curious about how Kishimoto saw these elements, and I just need that to be wrapped up.
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* 1. I would like Crystal, Dark, Steel and Swift to be introduced as official in some side material for consistency. For me, Crystal would be a [[kekkei tōta]] (No one knew about it, so kekkei genkai seems unlikely, and kekkei tōta are considered to be much rarer, which fits Guren's condition for me). Dark, Steel and Swift were mentioned to be kekkei genkai, but Kishimoto might change his mind. I feel like Dark's ability to absorb other natures might place it apart, although I wanted it to be a combination involving Fire (Fire+Wind, long time ago). I would like Steel to be an enhanced Earth (black earth, just like black fire and lightning) instead of a kekkei genkai, but it could be Earth+Lightning (Pattern theory survives only if Steel changes Earth into Steel and does not produce any Steel on its own). Since 迅雷 (jinrai) means "thunder", I would like Swift (迅) to be Wind+Lightning (which I gave a placeholder name "Thunderclap") if it used super-vibrating slashes or sonic waves instead of just speeding the user up.
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* 2. If the above does not happen, have the movie villain or other characters use a single technique for each of the remaining natures. Kishimoto is much more involved in this upcoming movie, so he should have the ability to have characters use two simple techniques. Even if it's used by random unnamed ninja fighting in an opening scene, we would know that these new natures were approved by Kishimoto. I certainly don't count on it, but if he does, we can simply take those two and Explosion and fit them to Earth+Lightning, Wind+Lightning, and Fire+Lightning.
   
== Re: With all due respect ==
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That was a bit long, but since I've been away for a while, I might as well tell someone my thoughts.
<blockquote>''Could you please stop addressing Fox's person directly all the time? This has nothing to do with me so I'm sorry for sticking nose into matters I'm not involved in, but it's getting awkward seeing you making it personal quite often. Take it elsewhere, it's kinda childish and this happens since him getting sysop rights.''</blockquote>
 
#I'm not making it personal, he is by constantly being aggressive with all my edits on this wiki.
 
#I'm not going to take it elsewhere, because this is an issue on this wiki and I want all users to see it. I haven't removed or asked other users to take their issues with me elsewhere have I ?
 
#I dislike him because of the fact he requested and got sysop permissions which is quite the opposite of how you are meant to get them. You get them by proving that you are a good editor, you don't get them just by asking. That is, in fact, completely against the Wikia's ideals as well.
 
I keep addressing him because he's the one making a big deal out of my concerns. I am making an opinion and he just takes apart my posts, misquotes words and takes everything I say out of context. I wouldn't have a problem with him if he didn't keep doing this. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 21:08, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
: Thank you for addressing that, Elve. Not to worry, I have a handle on the situation. If he continues with this, I'll simply take it to the other admins, or deal with it myself.~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 21:37, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
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I spend most of my free time with my friends if possible, and since I spend a most of my time studying, almost all remaining time goes to connecting with people. I'm not a sports or gaming guy. I enjoy most kinds of movies, especially sci-fis and thrillers. My translating work is also non-paid and is more of a hobby to keep practicing my Korean (chatting in Korean is no problem, but more difficult words require constant use). Be assured, I am obviously nowhere close to superhuman, and certainly not above anyone else. Why don't you tell me a little about yourself next time? I might not be back for a while, though, haha. --[[User:GoDai|GoDai]] ([[User talk:GoDai|talk]]) 12:55, November 30, 2014 (UTC)
   
: Meh, I'm laid back about things. I honestly don't have a problem with him. He's a productive editor. Anyone can see that. I don't know why he has a problem with me, and even if he does, he shouldn't drag the others into it. And yeah, I go inactive for times, and then get really active for times. I usually log on here when the new chapter come out, make my edits, and then log off. Occasionally, I'll make other edits, but I do like to contribute to the debates and discussions. Don't worry, it'll all work out in the end. He'll come around hopefully, and if he doesn't, I'll just drop it. No need to keep senseless arguments going. But again, thanks for your concern ^^ ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 21:49, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
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== ORAS ==
   
== Re: creepy throat snake no jutsu ==
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The protomorphosis happens if Groudon/Kyogre absorbs large amounts of natural energy. Senjutsu confirmed in Pokémon! :D [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:46, December 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
If you feel one is necessary and the article can support it sure.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:56, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
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== chat ==
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Been a while, can you come on chat? :D --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|Contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 11:59, December 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:^ If you can. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|Contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 23:06, December 17, 2014 (UTC)
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::^ If possible dude. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|Contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:19, January 7, 2015 (UTC)
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:::^ And again. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:51, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
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::::It was about something else actually... --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:54, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Whatever, it's not really all that important. Not really sure where all the "anti-chat" is coming from, but it's interesting to see... --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 23:05, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
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:Able to join chat? --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 21:22, February 2, 2015 (UTC)
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::^ --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 13:31, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Alright. :) --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 13:56, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Re: leaf village stuff ==
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== Re: Ootsutsuki ==
   
Or, you could add it and if it needs work, it'll be worked on~ --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:11, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
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Na, they're an alien life form. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 13:21, December 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Re: Hidan's Eternal Youth==
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== Re: prejudice ==
That's not the point. It's hard to say it but I found this webpage that features Hidan having eternal youth due to being immortal. If you don't believe me here is the webpage link.
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Just was wondering based on your comments. For the record I'm Catholic, but I'm not going to interfere with you; Sajuuk already removed my question.[[User:Gemnist|Gemnist]] ([[User talk:Gemnist|talk]]) 00:40, December 26, 2014 (UTC)Gemnist
   
If you look below and look in the known user box, Hidan's name is in it. Also, eternal youth is under the "Variation" section. http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Immortality
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== Re: Oro ==
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Sorry for replying so late. I must have skimmed over your comment. The databook neither says Oro can, nor cannot, specifically. It only mentions White Zetsu as a user. However, by doing a little bit of digging into the Living Corpse Reincarnation, and it doesn't mention anything about Orochimaru ''modifying his body to make it look like the original''. The possessed body takes on his form automatically. This was shown with Genryuumaru, Oro's host prior to his attempt on Sasuke. The manual modifying, thought to be done by Orochimaru, and possibly his [[Vanishing Facial Copy Technique]], is technically speculation.--'''[[User:Koto Senju|Koto]]'''<small><sup>[[user talk: Koto Senju|Talk Page]]-[[Special:Contributions/Koto Senju|My Contributions]]</sup></small> 05:35, January 2, 2015 (UTC)
   
And if you look the known user box in the eternal youth page, Hidan's name is also in it. http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Semi-Immortality
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Elveo, I've corrected my mistake. I paid a little too much attention to how Oro looked like a Zetsu version of himself immediately after possessing the body of a parasite clone. In that, I was probably acting in bias. That's my fault. Thank you for correcting me.--'''[[User:Koto Senju|Koto]]'''<small><sup>[[user talk: Koto Senju|Talk Page]]-[[Special:Contributions/Koto Senju|My Contributions]]</sup></small> 19:00, January 2, 2015 (UTC)
   
--[[User:Jon825lazery7|Jon825lazery7]] ([[User talk:Jon825lazery7|talk]]) 20:59, March 27, 2013 (UTC)[[User talk:Jon825lazery7]]--[[User:Jon825lazery7|Jon825lazery7]] ([[User talk:Jon825lazery7|talk]]) 20:59, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: Yo ==
   
== Re: thank you, ==
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Sorry for my late reply, for this week. Yeah, Naruto and Pokemon anime resumes to be aired. And you're welcome, I personally liked the idea of today's episode :) —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 12:30, January 8, 2015 (UTC)
   
Seeing that discussion sparked in my memory that we had those. Felt double-stardardish to refuse adding those names when I recalled there being some names of that nature. I got all I remembered down. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:07, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: old hamura ==
   
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In the movie? His screenshots aren't out yet. Though I have his ''Retsu no Sho'' pic (he's aged a lot)!--[[User:Hisana456|Hisana456]] ([[User talk:Hisana456|talk]]) 13:49, January 10, 2015 (UTC)
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: Here: http://imgur.com/Nr6zGBF --[[User:Hisana456|Hisana456]] ([[User talk:Hisana456|talk]]) 13:56, January 10, 2015 (UTC)
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::Exactly! He was supposed to be the 'hot' one.. but yeah, he's Hago's twin afterall.--[[User:Hisana456|Hisana456]] ([[User talk:Hisana456|talk]]) 14:05, January 10, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Re: Hayate filler ==
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== Re: Jin no Sho English ==
Anyway It would be good next episode the episode may even expand on his relationship with yugao his girlfriend --<span style="color:CornflowerBlue;">[[User:Jmootam1999]][[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]]</span><span style="color:Indigo;">[[User talk:Jmootam1999|Loves Naruto]]</span> 23:42, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Haha your crazy haha shikamaru would be like what kurenai had It with hayate haha--<span style="color:CornflowerBlue;">[[User:Jmootam1999]][[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]]</span><span style="color:Indigo;">[[User talk:Jmootam1999|Loves Naruto]]</span> 23:58, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
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You do realize I live in Germany? :D I have no idea about English release dates, sorry. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 18:38, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Re: immortality question ==
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== Classifications ==
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Those nature releases that I just reverted edits on come from non-canonical sources so cannot be classified as being a "Kekkei Genkai". Those edits are actually speculation added by the user, unless you can link me to any valid source that claims them as being such. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:35, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
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:It's likely a mistake in the articles as, unless a databook or character physically stated that they're a kekkei genkai (which nobody said for the Crystal Release), it's technically speculative in nature and should be removed. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:38, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
   
In theory, yes. [[wikipedia:Biological immortality|Biological immortality]] does exist in the form of immortalised cell cultures such as [[wikipedia:HeLa|HeLa]] and [[wikipedia:Jurkat cells|Jurkat]] cells. There's [[wikipedia:Turritopsis nutricula|a jellyfish]] which can be biologically immortal through changing back to an immature form, but in nature ends up perishing either to disease or predation. [[wikipedia:Hydra (genus)|Hydra]] have something similar going on, but they don't know how telemore restoration works with their constant cellular division. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:10, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: I suppose ==
   
== FairyTail Fanon wiki ==
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Nope, nothing. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:11, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
Hey could you please join FairyTaill Fanon wiki please, It's new and I need Admins who can develop the wiki really well please join --
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:Nope. The special chapter isn't included, not sure about the interview. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:36, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
<span style="padding-left:6px; background-color:Gold; border:6px dotted yellow;{{border-radius|20em 20em 20em 20em}}">[[File:Nature_Icon_Yin–Yang.svg|0x15px]][[User:Jmootam1999|<span style= "font-size:15px; font-family: Bauhaus 93;">'''Jmootam1999'''</span>]][[File:Nature_Icon_Yin–Yang.svg|0x15px]]</span> 09:27, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
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::It totally is, I use it for almost all translations. I only use the physical copy when something's blurry or too small. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 22:08, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Re: how you ==
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== re: jin no sho ==
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Are you talking about the English one (if there is one, link please) or the japanese one?<br>-- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 21:45, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
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:[http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=%C9%D9%C4%EAjump&tid=3390680021&pic_id=70d7be003af33a878a1d7e71c55c10385243b553&pn=1&see_lz=0 Here.] How did you know I had it though? -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 22:16, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
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::K then. Congrats on the 14000 edits, btw. -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 22:44, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
   
Yeah, I wonder how Madara could survive after his battle with Hashirama and also how he could find the Gedo statue to bring the supply of his life until he met Obito. Perhaps he awakened his Rinnegan at that time to allow himself to control the life as he desire. And maybe Itachi was right about most of Madara's theories that you talked about, but I think we'll know more of Madara's flashbacks very soon. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 16:43, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
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== re: tailed beast genders ==
   
== Re: chapter 626 ==
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Where did the databooks say they have genders? Is the answer to that question.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:33, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
I don't have access to the chapters 625 and 626 yet. Mangahead is seemingly having some problems with the Naruto raws and I don't have any other raw source. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:46, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: Kaguya advanced natures ==
:Uh, I don't know what Genjutsu sound words look like, but I don't see anything that would stand out. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:54, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Nope, the sound effect ザ ''za'' stands for ''whoosh'' or such, describing strong, energetic movement of the rain, in this case. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:11, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re:Forum talk ==
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As I said seconds ago, she doesn't have the Kekkei Genkai thingy in her profile, even though she uses the Byakugan. This either means that her Byakugan is no Kekkei Genkai, or it means that they forgot to add it. But even if they forgot to add it, it doesn't mean that she has more than Byakugan as a Kekkei Genkai. Furthermore, we don't even know if Storm Release came from the tailed beasts. Madara simply had it, without any further explanation or anything. Then, for the tailed beasts' kekkei genkai, I'm not sure. We need some definitive proof that someone who absorbs the tailed beasts like Madara and Obito did, gains their abilities as well.<br />
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On another note, there's a digital version of the databook coming out, labeled as ''Version 2'' on iTunes. So we might see some corrections, hopefully. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 00:36, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
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:Why are you always ignoring the most crucial points? Kaguya isn't the origin of the tailed beast, the Ten-Tails is. Furthermore, the simple fact that Hagoromo split the chakra and changed the parts to something entirely new, changed everything. The beasts could've easily gained their Kekkei Genkai only at that point, because they didn't possess blood or anything before, being pure chakra and all (or even more, pure natural energy).
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:If Madara really gained the Storm Release through one of the tailed beasts, then why was no beast ever attributed with it? I know that the absence is no evidence, but it's something that needs to be taken into consideration. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 00:55, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
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::Yes, but as I said, did everyone who absorbed the tailed beasts (Obito, Madara, Naruto) gain access to all their natures? If so, why didn't everyone use them? Obito didn't use one special nature, Madara used Storm Release which we can't safely attribute to a tailed beast, only Naruto gained access to their powers because the tailed beasts allowed him to. So if it's the case that the jinchuriki needs their beast's approval, then it might just simply be that Kaguya didn't get that approval. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:52, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
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:::And again you ignore that the tailed beasts aren't her original chakra. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:53, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
   
The ones who knew her as his mother aren't the ones who would be crazy on killing him (for being Minato's son), are they?'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 15:36, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: periods/timeskips question ==
   
Doesn't seem that kind of a person... Hiruzen must have decieded so only after accurately measuring the pros and cons (?)'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 16:38, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
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Not enitrely. The Last is part of Blank Period. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:36, January 31, 2015 (UTC)
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:Why? We'd list it after ''The Last'', under a different headline or so. I think we did that in Sasuke's article. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:45, January 31, 2015 (UTC)
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::Oh, yes. There will be some problems sooner or later, but I believe the best thing is to go by the databooks. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:48, January 31, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Hashirama's scar ==
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== Re: Jin no Sho version 2 ==
   
Did you noticed in the recent chapter that Hashirama's scar on his nose bridge in the Hokage Monument isn't exist? Of course we're talking about the recent timing. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 14:18, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
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I don't have a link or that artbook right now, I'll probably be able to answer tomorrow. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau ]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 22:46, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
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:-no illegal links-. I didn't find any correction so far. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:57, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
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::They did correct the mistake in Sasuke's profile, where it says "Kakashi attacks Naruto" instead of "Sasuke attacks Naruto". Other than that, nothing so far. Danzo still doesnt have Summoning or Yin Release, Madara isn't listed as an Izanagi user and is the only user of Kanseitai - Susanoo. Anything else? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 23:16, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
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:::In Minato's profile, it is said that he saved Kushina from Kirigakure. This was corrected to Kumogakure. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 02:47, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
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::::In Chojuro's profile, it is said that he comes from Kumogakure. This was corrected to Kirigakure. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:41, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
   
== FTG Slash ==
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You mean, like scans? None that I know of. But there's not much new stuff from what I know. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 13:47, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
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:There's nothing about Kaguya, or at least it hasn't been posted yet. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 13:52, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hey man , is it true that Minato says Tobi has better space time ninjutsu than him and the Second ? If so, what chapter ? Im starting to get a little confused as to what things suggest it's Space time ninjutsu (other than the name), could you clear this up for me ? (maybe give me some reasons ? ahaha)Thanks --[[User:Keep Calm And Call Kakashi|Keep Calm And Call Kakashi]] ([[User talk:Keep Calm And Call Kakashi|talk]]) 12:09, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
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I only translated [http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=52265393&postcount=96 some] of it. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau ]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 23:24, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
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:I can only tell you what I told those guys at NF: Gratitude doesn't help me pay my internet connection. Also, I have other hobbies, so yeah. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 23:45, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
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::I thought about it, but I have no idea how much money would be a good price for how much work. I also don't like to make a hobby my job, because whenever I absolutely have to do it, I tend not to do it at all. And no, never. Although I might be working soon, so I'll probably have to reduce playing it. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 23:56, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
   
Ok cool , what chapter did you say ? ahhaha "50x" ? :p I dont really understand. Sorry for being pedantic, I just dont recall this part about the Second ! --[[User:Keep Calm And Call Kakashi|Keep Calm And Call Kakashi]] ([[User talk:Keep Calm And Call Kakashi|talk]]) 13:26, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: Hey, you ==
   
== Re: Hayate filler arc ==
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Yeah, it has been awhile hasn't it? You always know where I am, man. Kirin's got a alternate origin story for Kaguya and the Otsutsuki Clan going right now, but it isn't really picking up any speed. He and I are just have discussions back and forth on different topics. You are more than welcome to just stop by some time and hit me up on my wall. Let me know if there is anything you want to talk about. [[User:Omega64|Omega64 狐]] ([[User talk:Omega64|talk]]) 21:14, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
   
Unfortunately, no info available yet for that. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 19:21, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
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I agree, fanon really isn't my cup of tea either. He's trying to really push a comment on it, but I just can't get into Kaguya's character at all. I'd rather create a different scenario without her completely. We can talk about Hashirama's cells and Izanagi if you want, just come on over. [[User:Omega64|Omega64 狐]] ([[User talk:Omega64|talk]]) 21:51, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Obito and Kakashi's Age Difference. ==
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Pardon my nosiness, but I saw Omega on Narutopedia, and so I just got very curious (you know how he isn't much of a fan of this wiki over Naruto Answers). Concerning my Kaguya story, it's not so much fanon as opposed to an actual theory of Kaguya's back story. After all, I didn't really change anything and I even said the entire purpose of the story was to provide an explanation about elements in the series that weren't further expanded upon. The only real fanon part would be the addition of an original character that I created, but even then, he could easily be cut out. I just included him because he added a bit more to Kaguya's character and I was having fun writing the story, so I figured why not. Honestly, the story I wrote has more canon elements than it does fanon elements. It really is an explanation to the history of the shinobi world that Kishimoto didn't write. Just wanted to point that out since I saw my name be brought up.--[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 03:04, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
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:If you don't mind me asking, what elements are those? If it's the fact that the Otsutsuki doesn't come from an alternate dimension, I believe I explained that I did that because it was '''never''' explicitly stated in the manga, only in the databook. So until it is either in the manga or the databook is translated to where I can read it for myself, I decided not to include that fact for multiple reasons (which I do believe I explained). Was there anything else that contradicts the manga canon?--[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 16:30, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
   
Obito is 2 years 7 months 5 days older than Kakashi, Kakashi took only 1 year to graduate to Genin, he was still 5, he was almost 7 when he became a Chunin, and freshly 11 when he became a Jonin. Obito was 9 when he became a Genin, after a short time he and Rin took the Chunin exams with Kakashi and him and Rin lost, Kakashi who was almost 7 years old passed becoming a Chunin. Obito was 16years and 8 months when he attacked the village and Kakashi was 14years and 25 days, this was on the day of Naruto's birth which was 10/10/1996 as a figurehead.
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== Re: Tailed Beast KKG and Jinchuuriki ==
   
Use this site to do the date differences and you will see that he is not 3 years 7 months and 5 days older than Kakashi but in fact 2 years 7 months 5 days older than Kakashi.
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I believe they're listed as Kekkei Genkai user because they can access the kekkei genkai of their tailed beasts. I'm not 100% convinced that Roshi has Lava Release as his own kekkei genkai, but I think he could access Yonbi's kekkei genkai as well. Naruto is friends with all tailed beasts anyway, so he can use their chakra as he wants, they wouldnt refuse it. Gaara, on the other hand, could not use Shukaku's chakra, because it hated him. Or so I think. But as I said in the thread, there's no definitie and clear answer to all of this, so a discussion is more or less pointless. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:39, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
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:Yes, the wording does that. Or maybe he had the kekkei genkai and Yonbi helped him awaken it or whatever. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:46, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
   
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html
 
   
Obito to current date
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== Naruto's Yin ==
From and including: Sunday, February 10, 1980
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Do you know how Naruto has Yin release? because according to DB icons he doesn't have it see [http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=%C9%D9%C4%EAjump&tid=3390680021&pic_id=68ff7a8b4710b91205b68f95c0fdfc0393452250&pn=1&see_lz=0#!/pid68ff7a8b4710b91205b68f95c0fdfc0393452250/pn1 Naruto] and also Sasuke doesn't have Yang release. One assumption is that Rinnegan and Truth Seeking Ball grants all release so is it true? I know the Truth Seeking ball are at least 4 nature elemental release, so is it really possible that Truth-Seeking Ball granted him Yin release. My guess is that he lacks one and according to FF-Suzaku the databook says Hagoromo grants Yin-Yang release, so couldn't it be possible that the ability Hagoromo gave them is to use this technique simultaneously i.e. Naruto's Yang Release and Sasuke's Yin release make Six Paths Chibaku Tensei a Yin-Yang Release. One explanation I got for Naruto's YYR is that his healing ability is one and he created the eye from nothing (yin) and he used Yang release to connect nerves, but it is also possible that the whole eye can be created from Kakashi's body cells (Naruto said he made the eyes from Kakashi's body in manga). Please take a look on my talkpage WindStar and I already had a discussion about this, what is correct?--[[User:Naruto uzu6254|Naruto uzu6254]] ([[User talk:Naruto uzu6254|talk]]) 18:27, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
To, but not including : Wednesday, May 8, 2013
 
33 years, 2 months, 28 days excluding the end date
 
   
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== Re: volume 72 tankobon ==
   
Kakashi to current date
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check raw-hunters.com [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:56, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
From and including: Wednesday, September 15, 1982
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:Oh, why didn't you say so? :D I don't know about volume, 71, but the changes in 72 are [http://36.media.tumblr.com/0a529a074a5c23c75c396fc8901ee2bb/tumblr_nj704qoGL81u82ij0o1_500.jpg this] and [http://40.media.tumblr.com/f7b9e82855ede86e931a3155fdb3cacd/tumblr_nj704qoGL81u82ij0o2_500.jpg this], as well as [https://40.media.tumblr.com/17d09829fd6bee538f16ed5e9bdaa0a1/tumblr_nj7treISdQ1u82ij0o1_540.png this]. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:27, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
To, but not including : Wednesday, May 8, 2013
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::I have no idea what you mean, but I do have volume 71 here. What page/panel should I screenshot for you? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:33, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
30 years, 7 months, 23 days excluding the end date
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:::So chapter 686 it is. [http://i.imgur.com/o5HHQo4.jpg ]. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:54, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
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::::How so? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:59, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
   
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== re: tsb ==
   
Naruto to current date
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Talk it to the talkpage and hope we get some info from our translators? Because I'm just as confused about it as you are. -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 09:37, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
From and including: Thursday, October 10, 1996
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:/shrug. -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 09:46, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
To, but not including : Wednesday, May 8, 2013
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::Can't see the image, whatever you're trying to show me. What chapter was it in?
16 years, 6 months, 28 days excluding the end date
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::EDIT: Never mind, [[:File:Naruto_and_Sasuke_power_up.png|saw it]]. Still counted nine. Take a look at [http://imgur.com/HSWmTXj this.] I think it's best to say there is no set number; it varies for users. -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 10:17, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
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:::It is weird. Hell, I remember a user claiming someone had 11 TSB. Kishi decided not to be consistent with the number. -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 10:36, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Maybe Obito, Madara and Hagoromo had ''ten'' because they were all the ''Ten''-Tails' jinchūriki and Naruto had ''nine'' because he had the ''nine'' tailed beasts' chakra w/o the Gedo Mazo? Either way, the TSBs are screwy. -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 10:47, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Kinda. But Kaguya only had ''one'' huge TSB, rather than ten. Maybe it fits her "all chakra should be ''one'' and belongs to me" mantra. -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 10:54, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
   
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== Re: your behavior ==
   
The earliest possible day of Kakashi becoming a Chunin
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Na, I don't use drugs. I'm just a person who wears his heart on his sleeve. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 13:25, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
From and including: Wednesday, September 15, 1982
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:It's not the first time people get insulted here. And no one has a single face. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:58, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
To, but not including : Friday, February 10, 1989
 
6 years, 4 months, 26 days excluding the end date
 
   
Obito on that day
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== Sure I would love to talk ==
From and including: Sunday, February 10, 1980
 
To, but not including : Friday, February 10, 1989
 
9 years excluding the end date
 
   
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I'm quite new to this website so excuse me if I'm a little slow.
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If there is an instant messanger or something, or maybe gmail? I'm available now[[User:GodlyHades|GodlyHades]] ([[User talk:GodlyHades|talk]]) 19:10, February 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
The latest possible day of Kakashi becoming a Chunin
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== Alright ==
From and including: Wednesday, September 15, 1982
 
To, but not including : Thursday, September 14, 1989
 
6 years, 11 months, 30 days excluding the end date
 
   
Obito on that day
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Thank you for taking your time to reply to my thread/topic/discussion.
From and including: Sunday, February 10, 1980
 
To, but not including : Thursday, September 14, 1989
 
9 years, 7 months, 4 days excluding the end date
 
[[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 10:46, May 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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See you when it is posted then [[User:GodlyHades|GodlyHades]] ([[User talk:GodlyHades|talk]]) 19:58, February 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
Oh and in the Lost Tower Movie they went back 20 years before current time Naruto date setting so Kakashi's age of 30 years, 7 months, 23 days becomes 10 years, 7 months, 23 days and his data file in the movie said he was a Chunin at that time so it fits right in to all of this [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 10:46, May 8, 2013 (UTC)
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==Re: Poke Showdown==
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''There are, in the team-builder. Are you playing randoms?''--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 22:26, February 13, 2015 (UTC)
   
Yamato was 6 years 8 months 28 days and a Chunin too at that time, but he wasn't shown in the movie except for his current self. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 02:59, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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== Tobirama's death ==
   
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Where was it said that he died in the first great war? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:15, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
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:Where was it said that Hiruzen became Hokage in the first great war, then? I'm looking for the reason as to why we assumed that Tobirama died in that war. Was it because the Sannin were older in the second war? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:20, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
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::Yes, but that mustn't mean that Tobirama died in the first war, hm? I mean, as long as it wasn't said that he died in one of the great wars or that Hiruzen became Hokage in one of them, that couldve all happened outside of a war, right? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:28, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
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:::They weren't surrounded, they were just hunted by 20 enemies. :O I have no idea if and where the time of Tobirama's death and/or Hiruzen's Hokage-ing was mentioned. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:45, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
   
Btw I used 1996 for Naruto and Sasuke, 1991 for Itachi, 1982 for Kakashi, and 1980 for Obito. For yamato I used 1986. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 20:07, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: can it be deduced that ==
   
To Elveo,
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I actually never thought about that before, lol. But na, it's a nice idea, but nothing really indicates that. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:58, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
   
So lets put it like this then, They all enter the academy at the same time that's a manga fact, and Obito is 2years7months5days older than Kakashi, the grad ages were 9(genin) and 11(chunin) for Obito and Rin... Kakashi's was 5(genin) and 6(chunin).
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== Source Editor ==
   
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Academy Entrance: Obito, Kakashi, Rin, at the same time.
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== Re: WoW ==
   
1 year later: Kakashi(Still 5 but almost 6) becomes Genin: Obito and Rin are still in the academy.
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Late response but my real life has gotten exceptionally #(#*y as of late.
   
Obito and Rin become Genin: a short time later Kakashi at almost 7 years old(Still 6 since his birthday hasn't come yet) becomes a chunin after taking the exams with Rin and Obito who fail the exams.
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Anyway, I have quit several times actually. About a month into Cata and MoP at release. Both was because of school however and not really the overall status of the game. Once I graduated I simply didn't go back (not much of a point and I was already playing XIV at the time, until WoD release where I hit a burnout about 2 or 3 weeks ago where I have once again started focusing mainly on XIV. If this holds I'll end up in Azeroth for a few months before taking a mini-vacation in Eorzea. But yes I do actually enjoy WoD, I'm in love with my Garrison and I like actually going out into the world because now I am actually doing stuff instead of just flying over it.
   
Obito(11yrs) and Rin become Chunin: Obito is shown with his chunin vest and papers.
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But if I had to rank them,
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# WotLK: First expac where I actually got to be a hardcore raider, until school kicked me in the teeth. But before that, we did goods.
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# TBC: This is basically where I started as far as I am concerned. Made my main, picked my favorite spec (lolret) and yeah.
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# Cata/MoP: They are basically the same for me as I barely played both of them when they were relevant. But I would give a slight nudge to Cata because of the 1-60 revamp...even though heirlooms basically murder any real point of seeing any of it.
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# Vanilla: Start point. Got to Southshore before Blizz decided to have the Horde blow it up before quitting. This is why I said TBC was where I started, the first toon I made I still have but he is in no way my main.
   
2 years go by and Obito is now 13: Kakashi who is 11 has become a Jonin, Obito who is 13 nearly dies and goes rogue. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 06:32, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
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You'll notice WoD isn't up there because yeah, not done yet. Though I am quite enjoying to storylines of it though. Except for Spires. Eff those birds.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 01:25, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
One part you forget... the Jonin Sensei is the one who sends them to take the Chunin Exams, Like Gai made sure team Gai couldn't take the exams when he thought they weren't ready... Minato obviously did not think his team were ready to take a second Chunin exams until they were 11, Sasuke and Naruto got into the academy when they were 5, they Graduated when they were 12 man... 12. My math still fits. Kakashi became Chunin at 6(almost 7) and was that way until 11. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 19:06, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
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Oh they definitely killed professions, but at least to me they were slowly killing themselves for years. If you were a raider you had to have very specific professions to maximize your personal contribution to the raid, for example before they gave Holy Paladins a damned mana regain, we were chugging mana pots during raids, so you had to be able to make your own potions. I like the idea that professions aren't mandatory, but I do agree they could have gone in a far less, murder solution like they did with garrisons.
   
BTW there are TWO Chunin exams every year, one at the beginning and one at the end of the year and Jonin Sensei's can prevent their students from taking the exams as much as they want until they feel they are ready. Kakashi was 11 when he became a Jonin, My PROOF? here are some facts.. Gai became a Chunin at 11 and he is only around over 8 months older than Kakashi and Asuma became a Chunin at 12 and he is around a year older than Kakashi.. Gai and Asuma were BOTH wearing their Chunin vests in chapter 599 when we see Rin showing her "Project give Kakashi a present to congratulate Kakashi becoming a Jonin" plan... Obito died at 13(a fact), and in the Kakashi Gaiden they say Kakashi just became a Jonin so it is clear that page in chapter 599 happens soon before the Kakashi Gaiden.. which means I am right and Obito is 2yrs 7months 5days older than Kakashi. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 03:01, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
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As for daily quest hubs I both agree and disagree. On the one hand, I do like the (very) old school method of grinding mobs to get exalted, that makes reaching exalted far more "worth it" when you know not everybody is going to have the stones to actually grind to exalted for almost no real reward (tabards, a mount, a pet, nothing that will actually help you). On the other hand, no daily hubs mean my main method of making gold is gone and as such I've literally been floundering for gold. Not to mention they did give me something to do. I understand the ''why'' there are no hubs; MoP pissed a lot of people off and poisoned the water on dailies. But again it's another reasoning of the ''how'' that was off.
 
That manga chapter had 3 errors only, Minato's stone face, Hayate, and Anko being in it... that was it. The rest can be assumed as accurate enough. In the movie lost towers Kakashi is 10 and still Chunin and that supports me.. chapter 599? that supports me... Gai and Asuma's chunin ages? they support me. I am right you are wrong. Kakashi became Jonin at 11 and Obito is 2 years 7 months older than him. Enough said. My evidence is better and more accurate than yours, my evidence has facts, manga and data.. and math that all fits.. I don't see why you are so hell bent on Kakashi being a 9 year old Jonin and Obito being 3yrs 7months older than him... they don't fit and they never will, once all the other facts are realized like ALL the posts I put on your talk page. I brought more evidence and facts than you, and all of them fit and are supported by databook and manga. Just accept I am right and move on this is getting old. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 11:12, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== ... ==
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And as a proud member of the Alliance, I laugh at what they did to Doomhammer. Muhahahaha. But seriously though as far as I could gather, everyone has been saying the Horde side of the story has been seriously lacking, while we on the Alliance got ourselves the best new character of the expac.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:38, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
No again you are presuming it takes everyone a year to graduate the academy. Itachi and Kakashi were PRAISED for graduating in a year, AND at the top of their classes so that in itself I am right on again. One year = 12 months no matter what. 5 Years and 11 months minus a year equals?? exactly. Also this isn't based on OUR dates, ONly the months and days are correspondent and the days that were given that were not databook or manga data were only used to support my post, they could of been a few days later or a few days earlier or even a month or two. You need to be looking at the age DIFFERENCES in those dates posted mainly, the utmost importance and point in my post was not 100% the actual dates. Read my post again and let me know if you understand what it really meant. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 19:55, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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:Considering draenei in general has done all of nothing since 2.0 (yes the beginning of Burning Crusade. No Velen ain't do *@#$ in the Sunwell) yes. Yrel is the best new character in WoD.
   
AND a year before the nine tales attack Obito would of been 15, 2 years before that Obito was 13, that is 3 years before the nine tails attack, Kakashi being 14 minus 3 equals 11. On to another piece, Itachi is 8 years, 8 months, 25 days younger than Kakashi and it was a stated fact he was still around the time the 3rd war ended. So the 3rd war ended on his 4th Birthday at the least and the last day of his 4th year at the most, meaning it ended around almost 2 years after Obito's "Death" at Kanabi Bridge at most and around 1 year at the least. My math makes sense all the way. Obito was 16 and 8 months when he attacked Konoha, Itachi was 5 and 4 months, and Kakashi was 14 and 25 days. During the the Gaiden Kakashi was 11 and Obito was 13 and Itachi was 2, I didn't specify the months here because it should be easy to calculate them using the date calculator and I want you to see for yourself... you will get the exact months too and it will all fit. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 20:06, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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:Removing reforging was dumb. I was glad they removed hit, expertise, ect. Once you capped those, you never did anything with them, hell you barely did anything with them while you were trying to cap them. Getting rid of the unnecessary stats was smart. What wasn't smart was adding versatility (which is basically useless) and then not giving us Reforging. That was dumb. That was real dumb. And don't get me wrong, as I said I love daily hubs. That was my main source of income and without the Argent Tournament I would have never been able to afford getting my Netherwing Drake. But yeah, the beginning of MoP poisoned daily hubs and Blizzard does what Blizzard does and throws everything out when people complain.
   
Kakashi was 9 years old when Obito "died". Not 11. Itachi was born that year. I've gone through all that multiple times, if you don't trust Elve-kun's words, trust me. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau ]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:06, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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:Which is honestly their weakest point. Crap goes down and they freak, so they toss everything out without just kinda fixing it to make it better. People hated that they all there was to do outside of raiding was the dozens of dailies across Pandaria, so they all but got rid of dailies in Draenor when they could have just put a single dailies quest hub in Draenor and called it a day.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:29, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
:Kakashi, Obito and Rin graduated at the same time, 9 years prior to Naruto's birth (ptNb). Kakashi became Chūnin one year later (8 years ptNb), Obito and Rin two years (7 years ptNb) later. Obito "died" 5 years ptNb. Both Obito and Rin are four years older than Kakashi. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:20, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
 
::There's a gap, that's right. Don't know how to take that into account, though. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:33, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
No, you are not getting this. Re-read my posts... I am right. I am only stating facts here not my opinions... I did your math and my math countless times and in the end you are still wrong. Go over everything I posted again. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 07:00, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
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:Oh no it was completely asinine to kill off AU-Velen when our Velen is still on Azeroth doing all of jack and #($*. That being said, AU-Velen nuking himself to purify a naaru was a pretty badass way to go out. So yes, hella stupid to kill AU-Velen off, but they did a very good job of doing it, at least in my opinion. As for why Yrel is awesome, it's mainly due to how Alliance heroes are typically presented in WoW. Most of them either don't do anything ever or is named Varian Wyrnn. Having Yrel go from Velen's apprentice to Exarch and basically leading the Alliance forces with your character was great, and again this is coming from a person who's heroes have either done nothing or was named Varian.
:And where exactly am I wrong? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:57, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: Naruto's healing ==
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:And as dirty as it is to agree with the dreaded Feminists, but yes they were right about this one. I don't know about Velen's niece but being Maraad's love interest would have just made her the draenei Tyrande where her true drive against the Iron Horde would be Blackhand nuking her lover. Which...would not be good because that's what the exact opposite of what we have been complaining about when it comes to our heroes.
   
The passage isn't in mangareader's scanlation, but in mangastream's archive site (which I'm not sure is actually maintained by them, the .to domain), you can see the scanlated part where Kakashi thinks "Must be the Nine-Tails' power". And since the scanlation probably dates back to a long time ago, the quality is rather bad, some of the kanji are still readable, and you can even see part of the kanji for nine, just above the box where that thought is written. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:34, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
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:Now i have no idea whats up with the "Fat Alliance Neckbeard" thing or Gorgrond's lore for that matter. But yeah we didn't need yet another Horde focused expansion, not after TBC and MOP. (For the record, WotLK actually did well balancing both sides out, and Cata was all over the place. TBC basically became the Blood Elf Redemption Arc with their incorporation into the Horde while the draenei were you know just kinda there, and MoP was super super Horde focused to the point where the Barren's patch had a long detailed quest about the Darkspear Rebellion and the Alliance had mechanical cats.)
:Not exactly sure. As an Uzumaki, Naruto ought to have the "potential for long life" yada, yada, yada, and since he's an Uzumaki through his mother. Only case I can think of from the top of my head that someone explicitly linked anything Naruto has with his heritage was Kurama when Naruto went Oprah "You get a chakra cloak! You get a cloak! EVERYBODY gets a chakra cloak!" with its chakra. I don't recall if there are others, but I think it stands to reason that he'd have inherited something from Kushina. I don't particularly recall anyone being against listing Naruto as having those benefits, as an Uzumaki, but my memory could be faulty. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:50, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: Sakumo killing Sasori's parents matter ==
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I could go on with this for hours. :D --[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:56, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
Why do you think Nagato was that old when he died? My timeline says so, too, but I have no idea why it does that, since I removed everything regarding the second WW due to missing proof. So if you can proof that Nagato was that old, it'd be awesome. Maybe I could then add it again. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:07, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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::Standard consensus is that it's the mark that means that when this is all over, she will be the full on leader of the draenei. What that mark actually means is anyone's guess, but another common consensus is that it's the mark that shows that Velen is a prophet. Perhaps this means Yrel will be a prophet. Who knows.
:So your whole argumentation is based on an assumption? I don't think that's enough, dude. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:45, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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::Slight correction, actually big correction. Tirion Fordring was kicked out of the Alliance before the start of Vanilla because he didn't kill the orc Eitrigg due to both of them being honor brothers. Fordring has not been a part of the Alliance since. Thrall was all over Cata and MoP (but especially Cata, Vol'jin took over in MoP) and yes Anduin appeared more than Varian but he did comparatively little that mattered to the Alliance as a whole (A lot of what he did was very Pandaria and Garrosh being a dick focused. See his time with Wrathian and the Timeless Isle). But in terms of the Alliance doing Alliance things for the Alliance. It's been Varian, guest staring the other leaders only to highlight Varian. For example Tyrande about to go hog monkey on a temple with Varian telling her it was a bad idea.
::Where does it say that Sasori's parents died when he was younger than 5? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:00, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Could you get me a manga reference for that information? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:41, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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::Anywho, love and revenge is still present, just not because Yrel was Maraad arm candy. Her sister's blood was used to summon the Dark Star in Shadowmoon Valley and that was pretty much the driving force for her. As for Maraad, at least for me I'm pretty sure he comes back as a spirit in the mission where Yrel becomes an Exarch but what he does or says I cannot recall. Either way, Blizzard has a terrible track record with female heroes when they have significant other, and Yrel would have been no different. So I'm glad that was scrapped in favor of the (while still generic) "you killed my sister" motivation they got going for her.
   
== Re: Archive ==
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::And yes Tyrande. Yes she did great during Warcraft III. Once WoW actually started, she did all of jack and #($* until MoP made her a badass again. The downside they also made her stupid, as in the aforementioned Temple Assault where her plan while it would have worked would have destroyed the Temple and gotten most of her people killed, while Varian's plan of "flush the idiots out" had minimal casualties on their side while the Horde was annihilated and the temple was completely fine.
Yep--[[User:ROOT 根|ROOT 根]] ([[User talk:ROOT 根|talk]]) 17:35, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Then why Is my archive weird looking its not like yours where It neat and says Archive 1 ? how come? It hasn't got any links example "Archive 1" like yours --[[User:ROOT 根|ROOT 根]] ([[User talk:ROOT 根|talk]]) 17:57, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
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::Back onto Gorgrond, are you sure? Because I literally cannot find anything about this. Got a link or something?
   
== Re: Jubi forms ==
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::MoP was '''really''' Horde focused in that almost everything was Garrosh driven. He was the one violently invading Pandaria. He was the one who orchestrated the Divine Bell plot which resulted in the Purge of Dalaran. The assault on the Barrens as I've said was heavily Horde focused with a awesome questline of Chen Stormstout reuniting with his old buddies Thrall and Vol'jin, and the Alliance equivalent was mechanical cats and a short chat with Vol'jin. During the aforementioned Divine Bell plotline, we got to see the blood elves actually take stuff into their own hands and Lothemar actually becoming a character, while we get to see Jaina go right back to "Horde are evil, kill them all!" and just stay there. Looking from the outside in, everything was very Horde driven, and even the final assault on Orgrimmar which people like to cite as "See Alliance you get to destroy our capital city!" fail to notice that Orgrimmar is still there, the Alliance went in making sure they didn't destroy the city and only went after Garrosh's forces and not the rest of the Horde. It was an Alliance victory sure, but it was done in a way that the Horde was to also come out on top, or at least as far as they could be with their entire infrastructure collapsing.
   
Second form is emaciated/handicapped, third form is it bulking up arms, horns etc. There's nothing special about the beast opening its mouth and showing us its penis, so it's not a fourth form.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:38, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
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::And yes, the Alliance did win the war. But it didn't ''feel'' like the Alliance won the war. It felt more like the Horde killed itself (which it did) and the Alliance happened to be there, breathing.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:46, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
I'm kind of lost, but, if I understand you correctly, there'd be no need to represent the mouth in the gallery.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:47, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
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Light that was a long response. Like I said I could do this for hours. :D--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:47, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
Oh, I thought they mentioned that it was transforming again that's why that was put there. Checked and didn't see it, I'll edit it to reflect that.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:58, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
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:I am hoping they keep her around cause Titans know we need draenei to actually do something, but yeah she may very well become completely irrelevant next expansion but she'll be awesome while we have her and if she leaves on a high note then fantastic, she doesn't go down like Jaina does.
   
== Speculation ==
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And incorrect again, the Argent Crusade is very much pro-everyone and anti-Scourge. They do allow Forsaken into their ranks after all, should they wish to join. Most however are just very very pro-Sylvanas (note: I did not say pro-Horde.) and thus not willing to join anything that isn't Sylvanas. As for Thrall, oh he doesn't have blind hatred for humans oh no, but make no mistake, Thrall is Horde, he never left the Horde itself when he left the position of Warchief when he had to be Shaman Thrall, then came back when he had to kill Garrosh and he swore to follow Vol'jin when the rest of the Horde leaders declared him their new leader. Tirion on the other hand was kicked out of the Alliance, like full turkey kicked out and has never once considered rejoining it, instead doing the Argent Crusade thing to purify Lordaeron (and yet has made no moves or claims to the Capital City, probably because he knows that until Sylvanas is put down, it is Horde territory).
   
You need to tone down the speculation, Elve. Its fine if you want to discuss theories or ideas you have in a forum or on personal talk pages, but three times since the chapter came out, I've seen you starting new discussions (Ten-Tails classification, Naruto being a sensor, and now the Haruno clan) based on nothing but over exaggerations of canon statements and baseless speculation on your behalf. This is not a reprimand, just a reminder that we can't actually use evidence like a symbol appearing above Sakura's head (regardless of who drew it, or the circumstances) to draw any conclusions. The same about the Ten-Tails, or Naruto's abilities. There has to be concrete facts before they are added. That's why we couldn't change the Ten-Tails' classification, that's why Naruto cannot be added as a sensor, and that's why we are not going to list that symbol as proof of a "Haruno clan".
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:That trivia note says that this was changed before Alpha, which means before the Alliance people came in and complained. So if Blizz scraped it, they scrapped it because they wanted to. Similar to a Worgen questline in Shadowmoon because they are also a race that has done all of jack and $($^ since they arrived.
   
It may happen that, later on down the road, Kishimoto proves your theories all right. Or, he could do a 180 and prove them all wrong. My point is that you have to have something solid before using it in an argument. Maybes, could be's, might have's, and possibly's are not things that are going to be considered for a mention on the articles. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 20:16, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
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:As for what comes after,
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:# The Dark Below is a popular opinion. The home of the naga, heavy on the Burning Legion, things like that.
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:# If not a Dark Below expansion, then a Burning Legion expansion. Provided we kill Gul'dan or no, there is clearly a Legion presence on Draenor that wasn't there during the original Rise of the Horde. Perhaps AU Kil'jaeden and MU Kil'jaeden get together and decide to murder Azeroth because they can?
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:# If I was in Blizzard's seat, I'd do a lot. Mind you a lot of what I'd do would be crazy.
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::# Personally I'd remove flying, or at least the amount of flying we have now. I get that people only like seeing the world during the leveling process, but then right after they just sit on their asses in their capital cities and then complain that there is nothing to do in the world, but then quickly complain when there is stuff to do in the world because it's boring as all they had to do was fly in get the thing and fly back to the quest giver.
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::# Reestablish Stormwind and Orgrimmar as the major faction hubs. Obvious reasons.
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::# Legion focused expansion with active Burning Legion invasions. If the player base grows complacent they will pay for it. A Legion strong hold appears somewhere and it must be combated or a certain number of demons must be defeated across the whole of Azeroth or else a settlement gets destroyed or taken over until a whole new set of requirements are met. If the players decide they are just gonna hide in Shattrath for whatever reason, when they come back Stormwind and Orgrimmar will be burning in felfire with Varian and Vol'jin relocated someplace else.
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::# Not sure what I'd do with professions. I'd rather them not be mandatory but at the same time not completely useless.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:52, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
: Of course. I didn't want to seem like I was hunting your comments down and attacking them. I've learned the hard way that [[User:Speysider|others]] can take it like that, though that is never my intentions. Besides, I see you in a friendly light and enjoy our debates. I just want to make sure we keep speculation out of them for the good of the site. That's all. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 21:01, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
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# I know, that's why I would like flying to removed from the old world again. Once we leave Draenor and is back on Azeroth I would like those cities to be the focus point again, and us grounded so that the world can feel like a world again, instead of a giant lobby.
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# Well aware.
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# To be fair, there is no way they could actually fix all of that. They'd have to completely 100% redo every zone every expansion. I don't think that has anything to do with story but has everything to do with how impossible that actually is.
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# Yeah that ain't happening. They already said nothing will happen to our timeline and that basically everything we do here will help a future AU Azeroth, but MU Azeroth will still be a #($*hole.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:00, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Happy ==
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:Oh the races I agree and disagree. I had a lot more to say but work got in the way and had to cut it short. >_>
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:# I only put the main cities because it required less typing. But yes I would love to see all the cities sacked.
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:# It is a problem, but I believe it is one that can be handled if they focused on one conflict at a time. Cata came in with two conflicts, Garrosh's war of aggression and the Hour of Twilight, that's why there is so much of an orc burnout because the Garrosh storyline bled across two expansions. Had the Alliance-Horde War been the focus of only Pandaria it would have been swell. But yes, Warcraft 4 would solve most of this but that could have the after effect of dramatically altering how WoW would have to work, unless they split them off into two different universes which I wouldn't really want. So their alternative method has been books...with varying degrees of success.
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:# Way to difficult to manage because it would practically require that you only level up in sequence to the story. And yes fixing TBC zones and WotLK zones would be great but again, that would be time taken away from adding something new, which was a big big problem with Cataclysm.
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:# The point, as far as I can gather, is that the Vanguard (the assault force that went through the Dark Portal) is made up of people who are not complete assholes. Besides the fact that if we don't stop the Iron Horde they can just keep coming back to our Azeroth, nobody wants to just doom another Azeroth or any other worlds to the Iron Horde simply because "it isn't our porblem". This is the reason the Alliance Expedition set out to destroy Ner'zhul's portals instead of just leaving when they had the chance; they couldn't damn other worlds simply because theirs was safe. Burden of being heroes I guess.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:40, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
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::Ah yes that thing. My cousin told me about it or at least a similar one years back. I never got into it (lazy) but I can defiantly see the appeal.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:59, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
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::# Oh while I agree there are a lot of servers, a game like WoW kinda needs them. While I personally would love if the game only had one server and everybody was on it, realistically that would not be a smart choice because Light that would just make everything busy.
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::# Garrosh was ''very'' inconsistent. He appeared as a whiny child (despite being at least a decade older than Thrall) and come Cataclysm he was very warmongering, but he wasn't completely evil (at least you can see from the Horde side. Alliance side we only saw warmongering). But it should be noted that Horde players hated him just as much as Alliance members, and it's because of that the decided to go ahead and make him piss on kittens evil in MoP.
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::# It is still better to focus on actual new content then updating old primarily because hells they are pratically running out of stuff. They've settled just about everything from Warcraft III and the Frozen Throne. We're reliving Warcraft I and II with WoD. If they don't tell new stories they can't progress at all.
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::# And like I said, the threat is "They could hurt other people". Gul'dan is not the only one who knows how to build portals, hell Gul'dan didn't even make the current Dark Portal the Iron Horde used him as a battery. Like I said we're there for two reasons: Keep our Azeroth safe and keep everyone else safe. Neither the Horde and the Alliance are gonna up and abandon the free orcs and the draenei to whatever fate comes to them just because our Azeroth is safe.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:06, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
I am happy with your latest message to Seelentau regarding chakra. Do you have any questions or anything you're still not sure about that I could maybe help explain? Everything about chakra and all its components gets VERY confusing, especially since there's a lot of misinformation about it (though you've shown you know more than the average). We all can still learn. =) --[[Special:Contributions/98.101.165.89|98.101.165.89]] ([[User talk:98.101.165.89|talk]]) 22:59, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: episode review ==
:I agree. Is there anything still unclear to you, Elve-kun? Also [[User:Seelentau/Timeline|this]]. Might wanna read it. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 01:32, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
I am actually quite hurt and disappointed, Elv. I was being completely earnest and amiable. I also do not know how much of chakra you understand, so I only wanted to try and help you clear any confusion that you may have about such a large topic. It is the most comprehensive and confusing thing Kish has created in regards to Naruto, in my opinion. And concerning affinities, you have displayed a bit of that confusion.
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Sorry for the late response... You're right, the lung expansion thing is kinda non-creative for me as well, it could have been better than copying Lee with everything on it. I personally don't like Shira's abilities so much because it makes Lee/Guy non unique. For the next battle, alright. It seems that Team 8 will suffer more for battling that Kusa team and I wonder how they will deal with it. More sweating and stuff. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 09:01, March 1, 2015 (UTC)
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:Totally agree with you, let's see how they handle those stuffs. I bet that Team Asuma will face that Ame team for the same stage in the next episodes, perhaps we'll see Pain or Konan. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 18:14, March 3, 2015 (UTC)
   
If it helps you believe, trust, and understand me more... I don't understand the Obito-Kakashi age situation. I mean, yes, I get the answer people come up with, but I haven't done the research and every time I decide I want to start, I get overwhelmed because I honestly don't know where to start, or how. And I would actually appreciate it if you would perhaps help me with that, walking me through it. Perhaps you could list it on my talk page in the way I requested Itachiwasahero do it on Seelentau's timeline page. And don't forget, we've also agreed on things that others might not, so I'm not out to get you.
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== Part 3 Orochimaru ==
   
To reply to the questions and everything, however -- What parts do you feel were disagreed upon? I must have missed it, because the only part I was discussing is what an affinity was =(. As for arms, legs, etc, that is a debate I've had with other Naruto-philes who do all they can to understand the lore. It seem plausible. Kakuzu's heart issues is simply explained because the heart contains a lot of chakra and vital components to a person. Using what was stored in them (the bonus chakra, nature transformation affinity (because the body naturally leans that way), etc) is what allowed him to use them. And that's the only reason why he could use affinities, because of the heart contained the information and etc. The hearts don't allow him to use others outide of their owners' affinity because it goes based solely on the body's chakra naturally leaned towards/emitted. Sure, they may have trained for others, but the body doesn't naturally do it, and it is why, even if a master in Raiton (Affinity) and Doton (Secondary), their expertise in Raiton (assuming they train it) produces larger results much more easily (and what allowed Kakuzu to use such masterful and large techniques, because he would use the heart's affinity).
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http://www.marineford.com/Thread-Anime-News-Interview-Reveals-Orochimaru-Kabuto-To-Return-In-Naruto-Part-3
   
As for being physical and spiritual energies, you're not incorrect as chakra is molded from physical and spiritual. But it's the chakra that determines it, and all the dialogue explicitly states it, and leaves naught to imagination. They say it (chakra) leans towards a nature, you pump chakra into the paper, the paper reacts to the nature hidden in the chakra, etc. And of course all the other dialogue. So I don't get why you think it is personality based and it explains transplants (when the only things transplanted are the body, chakra, affinity) working better.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/2pg3pk/spoilers_idea_for_part_3_and_orochimarus_return/
   
As for Uchiha's being Katon more often than not, don't forget that there is seemingly a Rite of Passage where you're not really an Uchiha unless you can use Katon (technically they just don't consider you an adult, but I prefer my version better lol). So from that, we can gather there are some Uchiha whose affinity sometimes differs. But along with Uchiha being Kekkei Genkai oriented, we can also assume their bodies have always produced a chakra leaning towards Katon, especially if you do consider the genetics/breeding part you've mentioned in the past. I would say it's the same for Iwagakure, where they're known for their Doton, Kirigakure being known for their Suiton, Sungakure -- Fuuton, and Kumogakure -- Raiton, and in the end it really just probably ends up being all attributable to breeding/genetics and chakra leaning towards a nature being perpetuated.
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http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3466021866
   
As for changing affinities, there's no reason to believe that, and it's heresy. And having two affinities? Hm, I've wondered about that when it comes to people like Haku, Hashirama, etc. They need both elements, and seemingly are born with both elements in order to use their KKG. I mean we've all come to understand they need both, but I haven't seen anyone approach the idea of having two affinities from birth for them. Maybe people have, but I haven't seen it, so... no, I don't agree with changing affinities, but I do agree with some having two affinities because of KKG.--[[Special:Contributions/98.101.165.89|98.101.165.89]] ([[User talk:98.101.165.89|talk]]) 14:24, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
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Doesn't seem trustworthy to me. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 11:59, March 5, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Truce. ==
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I like to think that if it isn't posted on NarutoForums from someone trustworthy, or if it isn't on saiyanisland then it must be fake. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 13:17, March 5, 2015 (UTC)
   
I am cooled down now and I have come to this conclusion, if we completely exclude chapter 599, then Obito and Rin are 4 years older than Kakashi. if we include chapter 599 then they are 2 years older than Kakashi. It all comes down to Databook 4 to solve this issue. Right now as long as it isn't addressed by databook 4 then we are both wrong and right at the same time. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 09:36, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re-Open Thread ==
   
== Re: this guy's theory/prediction ==
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I would like to contribute to this thread: [[Thread:141848]]. Is it possible for you to re-open it? [[User:ShinyMagikarp|ShinyMagikarp]] ([[User talk:ShinyMagikarp|talk]]) 10:08, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
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:No, Elveonora cannot reopen that thread as it was automatically closed by a script. We have a rule against bumping dead threads anyway: if you really want to contribute further, make a new thread that references that one. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 10:15, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
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::Oops. I didn't realize that was the definition of a "sysops" when reading Rule 4 of the forums: ''If a sysop closes a thread on the forums, do not go around the wiki complaining that the topic was locked, either via making a thread of complaint or spamming sysops via their talkpages.''
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::I apologize. I didn't know that an automatically archived thread was considered locked by an administrator.
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::[[User:ShinyMagikarp|ShinyMagikarp]] ([[User talk:ShinyMagikarp|talk]]) 10:32, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
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:::No, that rule applies to when a forum moderator or forum operator manually closes a thread, not when the script closes it.
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:::And Elveonora is a forum mod, not a sysop. I'm a forum op myself, not a sysop. That rule needs to be clarified. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 10:37, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
I did not look through all of it, but between mistranslations and just plain wrong assumptions. Even if something that guy proposed ends up happening, I don't think it'll happen how he proposed. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:02, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
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hi (-----)
   
== Re: Could you please take a look? ==
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== re: meme ==
   
Don't know exactly what you're asking. I usually don't give much thought to the "lessons" and "teachings" of a fictional world, I'm much more interested in its mythology and how it works. If you wrote about that, I'd be able to give you a much better feedback. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:02, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
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Eh, that's cool. Though it did say "Just as planned," correct? {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 19:29, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:Oh, and good work with the Naruto meme thing. It'd be nice to have some fun around here. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 19:42, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
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==Chat?==
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You VS Me. 1 V 1. Foxy Boxing. Rules - there are no rules. Be there or be square..--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 19:36, June 9, 2015 (UTC)
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:I shouldn't really interrupt this, but I think Omojuze is suggesting you join the chat... --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 20:34, June 9, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Naruto Fandom wiki ==
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== Good luck ==
hey elv-san would you like to join Naruto Fandom Wiki we need more creative people to come and Interact at the moment the wiki's growing very successfully --[[User:ROOT 根|ROOT 根]] ([[User talk:ROOT 根|talk]]) 16:08, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
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I'm not a forum operator any longer. I just removed the rights from myself. :) --'''''[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sa]][[User talk:SuperSajuuk|ju]][[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|uk]]''''' 08:35, June 27, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Re:please ==
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== "Suggesting you like me a little bit <3 On topic:" ==
   
I used it the same as one would "dude" or "man", but I'm a girl and always use it anyways when speaking to someone. I just delved into my personality a little bit and used it, lol. But I won't use it, despite not having used it before with you for all this time. --[[User:Taynio|Taynio]] ([[User talk:Taynio|talk]]) 16:09, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
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*Leonardo Dicaprio raising a glass*--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:39, June 27, 2015 (UTC)
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: I don't know whether to applaud this or be ''very'' afraid. xD jk ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 15:05, June 27, 2015 (UTC)
   
Lol it's okay. I wouldn't speak to you like that, especially after all the discussions we've had. But just incase you missed my other announcement to you, I am the anon you would always debate with.--[[User:Taynio|Taynio]] ([[User talk:Taynio|talk]]) 16:44, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
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the red rinnegan like sharingan is called the rinne sharingan and Byakugan and her third eye is a kekkei moura.
   
== Re: latest chapter opinion ==
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== Re: TSB ==
   
I liked it because stuff happened. Sakura does indeed seem to be getting serious, but I'll only believe it when it happens. I found Sasuke's sudden ambition to become Hokage rather poorly done. If anything, I thought he would simply give up on destroying the village, save it to honour Itachi's wishes, and then he'd keep a distance. He'd protect it, but we would keep a distance, due to his resentment. Regarding Minato, I get how what happened would be possible, but I feel it cheapened his character. The great thing about Minato is that he was simply gifted, I feel that giving him that chakra mode feels like a crutch to his abilities, when he clearly shouldn't need one. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:34, May 23, 2013 (UTC)
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Good thing I translated the article a couple days ago: http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=53954737&postcount=297 [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 13:03, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
:I was sad that minato didn't retrieve the toad contract with Jiraiya's blood on it and have orochimaru summon him. He is the only missing link in teacher student lineage ;( — [[User talk:Simant|S<small>im</small>A<small>nt</small>]] 00:51, May 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Make an archive ==
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== Woops. Sorry. ==
   
Hey I would like to know how do I make an archive on my talk page. [[User:Inoyamanaka98|Inoyamanaka98]] ([[User talk:Inoyamanaka98|talk]]) 19:38, May 23, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98
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I didn't mean to post that question as if it were a form. It was more or less a way of saying how similar the ability was to Kamui, though I used Kakashi as a way of pointing it out. 'Implanting the eyes into Kakashi' was a reference to how it is literally just Kamui with a big ball surrounding him.--[[User:ExyleCage]]ExyleCageWasHere
   
Thank you. [[User:Inoyamanaka98|Inoyamanaka98]] ([[User talk:Inoyamanaka98|talk]]) 19:47, May 23, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98
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== Re: Prediction/Opinion ==
   
== Timeline ==
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I never wasted a thought on that, lol. They're obviously related to Kaguya. If the Rinnegan aren't artificial, they're also related to Hagoromo. Buuut knowing Kishimoto, he won't explain it at all. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:15, July 14, 2015 (UTC)
   
Btw if you are still making a timeline, the chunin exams are held on the 1st of july, idk if that is the first of the year or the second time in the year, but that was what hiruzen said when konoha 12 took were about to take exams. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 04:25, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
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== [[Thread:178382]] ==
   
Oh, and Idk if it was just the exam the 12 took or what but there is a month gap between the last part of the exam and the other parts, so it ends in august. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 04:27, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
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Any reason why no one stepped in to stop the [[Thread:178382#63|thread]] from [[Thread:178382#65|escalating]]? (If this keeps happening, I'm seriously going to have to step my sorry game up >_<) {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 06:38, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Re: feedback ==
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== Re: The Last DVD ==
   
I don't think it's possible to discuss serious stuff with most of the people here. The case of Kakashi's age taught me that. Almost no one here is able to accept that they eventually could be wrong with what they're thinking. You're basically talking against walls most of the time. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 11:53, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
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Yeah, a couple of days later it should be ready online with high quality and subtitles. Looking forward to it. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 16:13, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
   
== On the Obito thing again ==
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== Re: The Last/Otsutsuki lore ==
   
The only info that supports Obito being 33-34 is the grad age numbers, but ONLY if you look at those alone. That's it. Chapter 599 and the Databooks Registration Numbers and Number Ages, combined with Grad Ages support Obito being 32-33 current time, I just don't understand why you don't see that Elve.. it's a mystery to me. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 15:34, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
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I have translated neither. You'd have to look through what has been translated by others. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 18:50, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
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:[[Thread:159828#1|FF-Suzaku]]. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 19:02, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Hmm ==
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== Re: "omg omg omg" ==
   
I would agree on that, but the only thing Kishi has addressed was the stone face prob in the shonen jump and fixed it in a later in chapter mosaic, is the tankobon release out yet for chapter 599? and how many errors have been fixed in it? [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 16:04, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
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Not gonna lie, I'm a bit torn. I drank the WoD Kool-aid and I don't plan to get burned twice. Everything in this expansion should have happened years ago, or at least before $(#*ing Draenor. That said, I really want the Ashbringer and I will most likely go back, just to hit level cap and quit again.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:12, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
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:Also I really do like that they are making Marksman not use pets. Before I quit I started leveling a marksman hunter just because they had a skill that made them lose their pet but didn't ruin their dps.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:13, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
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::Indeed. And now within a years time, Legion will be released. But from a story perspective, I'm already skeptical. During this time the Alliance will most likely lose Dalaran again (which makes me sad), I'm pretty sure Tirion is dead (as we get the Ashbringer), I don't believe Thrall is dead (Enhancement Shamans get Doomhammer, but I truly doubt they'll ever hurt Thrall). Overall, the ideas behind the Order Halls seem promising, bringing back the much needed class identity. We'll see how they handle out of raid things because again, 2 years ago, they said great things for WoD and look at what we got.
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:::As an aside, I wish they kept to their guns over Flying in the expansion and in the future.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:34, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
   
== hokage monument stuff ==
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== re:thank you ==
   
Susanoo thing is in the trivia, not too sure why either. Hanzō and the other manga images are an entirely different thing- that's just how it was decided to handle it. For the monument, there's no need to show an entirely correct depiction of a landmark and then show what the anime's done to it. It's not like it's in black and white. The hawk thing I agree with, but the last time I changed it, it was reverted, so I think you'll have to bring that up on the talkpage.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:37, May 26, 2013 (UTC)
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Your welcome, and may I ask where I was wrong at some points? I also saw that you removed my edit from Boruto's talkpage, and that's fine. --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 18:25, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Re: Your skills are required ==
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I didn't really mean to suggest that, what I was really suggesting was that life force is aligned with physical energy and that it is apart of chakra. I know that they aren't the exact same thing, or else everyone who has a lot of strong chakra, would have a powerful life force like the Uzumaki do, which isn't true. But as for what life force is, the English definition of life force is a force that gives something vitality or strength, or the energy that animates living creatures; the soul.
   
「長門は千手の血統で外道魔像をマダラ以外に口寄せできる唯一の人物なのさ」<br />
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What else could life force be? We know that when someone's chakra is all gone they're dead, which would mean that their life force is all gone, since it's defined as the energy that keeps you alive. That's why Karin's heal bite can save people from the brink of death cause her chakra has great healing powers which was stated to stem from her life force. So her powerful life force influences her chakra. All we need now is for a databook or something to officially confirm this. --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 18:50, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
"Nagato wa Senju no Kettō de Gedō Mazō o Madara igai ni Kuchiyose dekiru Yuiitsu no Jinbutsu nano sa"<br />
 
"Since Nagato descends from the Senju lineage, he's aside from Madara the only person who's capable of summoning the Gedō Mazō"<br />
 
[[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 13:00, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
:No, the literal translation would be "Nagato is a lineage of Senju" or so, but that would be senseless. Since you descend from a lineage, I've chosen that wording. You could simply say "Nagato is from the Senju lineage", though. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 13:15, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
::No, 降りる isn't used but I don't see why it should be? Does the meaning of the whole sentence changes when you use 'descends' instead of 'of' or 'from'? Whatever wording you choose, the meaning stays the same: Nagato and the Uzumaki clan are part of the Senju lineage. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:08, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Could you get me a raw for chapter 303? I only found the tankōbon raw where the text was deleted. Since the God Gate Jutsu seals aways the movements of the target, I'd say it's a sealing technique. Why would it be a barrier? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:10, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Yeah, I found that one, too. But it's still missing the raw text about the century-stuff. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:01, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::Unless I have a raw I can't take that into account. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:08, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
On an unrelated note, please explain to me why you think Black Zetsu is to White Zetsu what Bijū are to the Jūbi. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau ]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 20:15, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
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Well this next part is speculation, since I don't know for a fact, but I think life force makes up chakra just like physical energy and spiritual energy do. I know life force and physical energy aren't the same, I'm just saying that the life force has always been aligned with physical energy, so it's more closely related to it than it is to spiritual energy. --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 17:55, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
:I thought there was more behind it... well, good for me, though. I don't think you understand what exactly happened in both instances. There are slight differences between the Jūbi issue and the Zetsu issue. Black Zetsu wasn't made out of nothing, but out of White Zetsu and Madara's will. White Zetsu wasn't split like the Jūbi's chakra was, but created by cultivating Hashirama Senju's cells. It could be that White Zetsu was created with Yang Release. I know Madara said he created White Zetsu with YYR, but I can't think how that would fit with the rest of it. Furthermore, Madara's will would be Yin Release, wouldn't it? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:48, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
::mmh, wouldn't you say that Black Zetsu was created ''with'' White Zetsu, while the TB were created ''from'' Jūbi? Like this:
 
::Jūbi => Chakra and body parted => Chakra parted in nine parts and given life with YYR
 
::Hashiramas DNA => cultivated/formed with YinR => given life with YangR = WZ => WZ given "will" with YinR = BZ
 
::It seems to me that the Jūbi issue was kind of a separation, while the Zetsu issue was kind of a construction. The RS's doing goes from big (Jūbi) to small (Bijū), while Madara's doing goes from small (Hashi's cells) to big (Zetsu). [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:23, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Where am I wrong, then? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:37, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Madara didn't do any body forming when making BZ, did he? He did only mind forming, so only YangR. The body - White Zetsu - was already there. So where's the YYR? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:53, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::And there we have your mistake: BZ was created by pouring Madara's will into WZ's body. There was no glueing together, because there'd have to be two different bodies for that and he didn't grow from WZ body, either. BZ is like the evil side of Harvey Dent/Two-Face. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:16, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::::The problem is that WZ never had half his side missing. His arm and one eye were missing, but BZ isn't an artifical body. Check chapter 606, you can clearly see Madara's will crawling over WZ's body and on the next page that he even had a white leg before the will covered it and made it black. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:28, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::::It isn't YYR when there's no YinR involved. Also, Madara even said that Obito could take the ones created with YYR as his pawns, referring to the WZ. He didn't include BZ there for a reason. BZ and WZ were made separate entities by Madara, they were one WZ at the beginning. The Madara came and infused his will (YangR) into half of WZ's body and thus made BZ as a Mini-Me or so. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:45, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
That's a different topic :D I'm of course agreeing with you when it comes to the creation of the White Zetsus, that was YYR. But I don't know if it was BS, maybe Madara used YYR in a different way? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:10, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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== Re: Movie stuff ==
:Please don't jump to any conclusions with that. Madara is a YYR user, but no confirmed BS user. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:23, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Re: welcome back ==
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That stuff was found on, I believe, the Japanese wikipedia or pixiv wiki. I'm pretty sure it came from the novel, which also apparently clarifies some of the Byakugan Princess stuff and has more story about Toneri's father. However, I haven't read it, so it should be corroborated first. [[User:FF-Suzaku|FF-Suzaku]] ([[User talk:FF-Suzaku|talk]]) 21:37, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
Haha, thanks, I've been following Naruto but haven't been on the wikia much, as you can see. I just saw the movie and thought I'd add some information. I've just been so busy that I haven't been able to show up much around here. I'll probably come back when Kishi reveals some more detail on chakra natures, haha. --[[User:GoDai|GoDai]] ([[User talk:GoDai|talk]]) 03:31, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Not too sure about those points in general, but I do think that the original Orochimaru was still sealed into the Sword. I'm not 100% sure how this all works overall, but I imagine it something like the mechanics for teleportation in shows like ''Stark Trek'' - The original person is destroyed and a copy containing an identical set of information is created elsewhere. Not exactly the same situation, but something like that. For example, if a soul is defined to be a singular entity residing in a certain set of information unique to an individual, then I guess you could say the original Orochimaru's soul now resides in this newly generated body. If not, this is just another Orochimaru with the same body and memories, who thinks he is Orochimaru, and in many ways, he IS Orochimaru now, since he is no different from the original besides continuity. It's somewhat confusing when you dig into the technical level. --[[User:GoDai|GoDai]] ([[User talk:GoDai|talk]]) 04:18, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
Interesting point, but that snake doesn't go to the Mountain's Graveyard to become Orochimaru, does it? I think it's some form of foreshadowing if anything at all. Unless you're correct and he somehow kept his consciousness free of the illusion. --[[User:GoDai|GoDai]] ([[User talk:GoDai|talk]]) 17:31, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Haha, but not much more information was added to the page; it was more of an update to brush things up. I think laying off the whole elements thing has cleared my mind quite a bit, and has been very helpful. I mean, when one keeps going at it at that sort of thing, one starts spitting out all sorts of forced-in, nonsensical ideas that don't even sound like elements. I'm still not sure if the Lava Releases are actually supposed to be different, since the anime portrayed lava for [[Lava Release: Melting Apparition Technique]] but the Japanese wikipedia still lists her Yōton as Corrosion Release (溶遁) and says it produces viscous acid slime which can harden... For now, I'm going with it being lava, since Kishi would have already raged if it was supposed to be acidic slime but the anime creators made it lava. For the different usages of Lava Release, my opinion is that it differs like a basic element would. Asuma used ash for [[Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning]] and dust for [[Wind Release: Dust Cloud Technique]], which has not been done by other shinobi. Likewise, many variations on the basic elements have been seen, and it is likely that advanced natures simply have such variations as well; we just don't see them as often because you need kekkei genkai to use them. --[[User:GoDai|GoDai]] ([[User talk:GoDai|talk]]) 01:14, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
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:There's a bootleg copy of the book floating around out there. I think Seelentau has it. You also might be able to ask around on the Naruto reddit or Naruto Forums, I guess. OrganicDinosaur might be able to help. [[User:FF-Suzaku|FF-Suzaku]] ([[User talk:FF-Suzaku|talk]]) 09:57, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Re: strength of a hundred seal ==
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::https://www.reddit.com/user/OrganicDinosaur [[User:FF-Suzaku|FF-Suzaku]] ([[User talk:FF-Suzaku|talk]]) 09:11, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
   
I explained how it works on the YS:R talk page. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:28, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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== Kishimoto's interview about Otsutsuki ==
   
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Hello.
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you mentionned here [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:162137 Thread:162137] that Kishimoto dicided to not explore details about Otsutsuki's clan. Could you share a link to the interview? I can't find it anywhere.
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Thanks a lot.
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--[[User:Sifadil|Sifadil]] ([[User talk:Sifadil|talk]]) 11:15, August 21, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Blown Away ==
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Hello.
Whoa i must admit {Elveonora} i wasen't really expecting that from you and it must have been alot of work on your part and i must say i actually agree with you now on many things.I must say that that many people may be very impressed with your theory's and progress.But i just started on this wiki today so im still a novice but ounce people see this im positive people will be just as impressed as i was.[[User:Whiteraven1|Whiteraven1]] ([[User talk:Whiteraven1|talk]]) 19:29, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
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It's me again. I managed to find it. It's the interview he did with Entermix magazine.
==RE: Page merger==
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Thanks for the previous reply.--[[User:Sifadil|Sifadil]] ([[User talk:Sifadil|talk]]) 01:28, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
I'm all for a page merger, but we don't do votes here. I agree with your point of locks and keys not having same name or whatnot. — [[User talk:Simant|S<small>im</small>A<small>nt</small>]] 19:22, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi ==
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== Re: device ==
I think that IS Shape Transformation.. {{User:Teppei Kiyoshi/Sig2|13:27, 6/4/2013}}
 
   
== Chunin Exam Info ==
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That wasn't anal, I just think we should be more strict with these things. Yes, he can use those natures. And the device is cheating because you can store many techniques in them and release them without wasting the chakra again. Means your enemy uses chakra while you don't. In an exam it's obviously cheating. It's like writing down the answers beforehand and handing them in instead of writing them down in the exam. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:25, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
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:That's not the same, lol. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:54, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
Hiruzen says "any genins you want to enter into the chunin exams?" in chapter 35 page 5, that means actual teams dont have to enter together, and that gai, ebisu and the other guy might have just been a makeshift temporary team for the team section of the exams. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 13:44, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Ok so in chapter 38 Kakashi claims the test can only be taken by teams of 3, it's weird Hiruzen would lie about it. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 14:11, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: age estimates ==
 
 
Too much room for error, I think. For example, Killer B and Motoi, we list their ages because there are fewer indicatives, which give a precise age. The only concrete thing about Minato's age I know, without going through several comparisons, is that he was not 30 yet. I think the more comparisons and things we have to compare, the less reliable the end result will be. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:15, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Where was that stuff about Minato not being 30 years old said? o: [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:05, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
::ah, I see. Minato was born at most 31 years before Naruto's birth. Team Minato was established 9 years bNb, meaning Minato was at most 22 years old (31-9=22). He became Hokage 1 year bNb at the age of at most 30 years old and died at the age of 31. I'm saying "at most" all the time because he was younger than Kakashi, but we only have Kakashi's age to calculate with. Am I wrong somewhere? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:56, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Was he? Why do you think so? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:07, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Kabuto question ==
 
 
As I understand it, after Danzō decided to dispose of Kabuto, Orochimaru decided to keep him, having taken an interest in him long ago. I don't know what happened after Orochimaru took Kabuto under his wing. We didn't see what happened. All we know is that Kabuto kept working for Orochimaru ever since. The fake backstory would work for the general population and shinobi of Konoha, but Root would know. There are gaps to be filled. Maybe Orochimaru presented a fake body, or maybe Danzō figured that he wouldn't go through it because he suspected Orochimaru already had plans to leave the village (if that happened around the time Minato became Hokage), but it still wouldn't make sense for him not to take action against Kabuto. Maybe he figured that having someone he knew near Orochimaru would be interesting in the long run. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:30, June 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Katsuyu ==
 
 
I can't really tell, I don't speak Japanese to associate words and such to traditionally feminine traits. Even them, it's not something as clear cut. If I'm not mistaken, Orochimaru commonly uses "watashi" to refer to himself, and watashi is traditionally feminine as well. ShounenSuki gave a list of some of those gender things once, including names that are traditionally associate with genders. I think Gaara's name is also traditionally used for women as well. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 13:58, June 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
I think you take things too literal sometimes. Zetsu noted that Nagato was from the Senju lineage (the Uzumaki). That's what the section was meant to convey, not that he had direct Senju blood. Still, the issue should be fixed now I believe yes?--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:19, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Oro Zetsu stuff ==
 
 
You can skip the sugarcoating :D Can you tell me the chapter and page number where that happens? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:51, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
:There are many discussions going on in the last weeks, huh? Well, to answer your question, the sound effect when Oro leaves his body is ドプッ ''dopu'', which is most likely a mistake. I think Kishi meant to write ドピュ ''dopyu'', which means ''spurting'', in this case of Oro's blood. The next one is ズッ ''Zu'', simply illustrating Oro's movement. The last one is ズズ ''Zuzu'', which is a "SFX for a slow maneuver, usually to emphasize and dramatize something deadly or of high importance/impact about to happen" http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/browse/zu/ :) [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:26, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
::I haven't read that discussion because I don't think most of the people here are able to actually discuss things. I also don't want to know what you're discussing, because I simply don't care. As it was with Suki-senpai, I'm not interested in Naruto that much. I'm doing this because I have fun translating stuff, not because I like the manga that much. The only interesting things about it is all the "background stuff", how chakra works and all this. The actual story is crap and I'm reading it only because I want to know how it ends. Well, sorry about this text :D Anything else I can help you with? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:39, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::I'm currently following Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, Gantz, Fairy Tail, Manga Love Story, Soul Eater, Soul Eater Not!, Deadman Wonderland, Toriko, Aiki and Shingeki no Kyojin. But I guess the problem with Naruto is that I kind of over-analyzed it. I lost the fun reading it after working with it that much because I can't read it like a random manga anymore. So it's probably a bit my own fault. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:28, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::It happened ove a longer period of time. I'm still interested in the stuff behind the scenes, but not in the actual story. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:07, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::Nah, I'm not going to leave you all alone. I'll do as much as my life allows me to do and also, compared to the German Narutopedia, this one is heaven. We've almost no editors over there so it became kind of my own project. But it's boring editing stuff when no one else does, that's why I'm working here most of the time. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:05, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Happy Birthday ==
 
 
Thank you. ^_^ [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] | [[User talk:Jacce|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacce|Contributions]] 15:29, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Thanks again. B| [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] | [[User talk:Jacce|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacce|Contributions]] 16:19, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Orochimaru's characterization ==
 
 
He has either an ulterior motive, or is using ulterior means to his same old motive. He got smart enough to notice that trying to achieve his goals the way he was doing was like pissing against the wind. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:05, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: red chakra ==
 
 
You'll never hear me state that the anime never counts, or agree to it. Long before you arrived on these shores it was manga, anime high so long it doesn't contradict manga, OVAs follow the same road as anime but less so, then movie and games.
 
 
With that out of the way, even if you want to ignore the anime, two completely different beasts having the same color chakra does in fact set a precedent. Until we are given a reason that this is ''wrong'' other than the all to common drivel of "uh we dunno lol!" then it is ''right''.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:31, June 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: Chapter 635 raw images ==
 
 
Aye, now we need Seelentau to translate. Then we can proceed from there.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:39, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: community poll ==
 
 
What... are you talking about? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:23, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Oh, the poll. I never saw it. Fixed~ --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:41, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: volume 65 cover ==
 
 
I've sort of given a description in the edit summary. And actually, I can give a site: http://www.shonenjump.com/j/comics/. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:01, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Re: white snake possession ==
 
 
He says that "otherwise, my snakes will bind you, enter from your mouth and take over your bodies". Don't ask me if he or his snakes enter their bodies, I don't know. :/ [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:26, June 24, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Hi, Elveonora. I'm sorry that this is months late, but as you have noted, I have not been here for a while. However, be assured, as I have dropped in occasionally to observe progress; I've just been quite busy with studies and work, but you are also right about me somewhat giving up on Naruto - It's not entirely true, as I have enjoyed the series, but I had to lay off for a bit because my expectations and attachments had become too large. Of course, I have also been following the series, and while there were large disappointments along the way, I feel alright with how it ended.

I had also been working as a translator for the Korean webcomic series Tower of God, so that was also a thing that had me occupied.

To try and answer your questions:

  • I still personally feel like black lightning was meant to be the Lightning variant of Amaterasu. Seeing how the recent databook translations by Seelentau have revealed Amaterasu and Blaze Release to just be a stronger modified Fire, I'd imagine that black lightning was intended to be a stronger Lightning Release in a similar manner.
  • My current guess for "Magnet Release" is that it isn't the simplest form of magnetism that we imagine. While magnetism falls under it, I'm guessing that the "磁" may have been expanded to include "forces" (all that Naruto science) that move other metallic or earthen materials. As far as I'm aware, gold is only weakly diamagnetic as well, but it was controlled on almost the same scale as iron sand was. In conclusion, I believe that this is just like the Lava, Storm and Boil Releases in that its name isn't always literally what it does (I was always a fan of the "The nature name is only symbolic" thing.). While unconfirmed, I believe that the appearance of Magnetism+sand on Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken is good evidence for believing that that is how sand is manipulated.
  • I have no choice but to concede to Kishi's classification of Blaze Release. One of the minor reasons for my leave was because coming here too often twisted and limited my thoughts, and I often found clarity when I had ceased rambling on in a hurry to fill ideas. At this stage, considering the general connotation of the character "炎" (flame) in Japanese, Chinese and Korean, it makes the most sense for it to be a stronger Fire, and nothing more. I would, however, still assume that "Blaze" is Sharingan-based, since I don't imagine Sasuke using it without the dōjutsu. However, we'll probably never know.
  • The pattern theory (if true at all) requires that that Wind+Lightning be "Wind modified by Lightning" or "Wind with properties of Lightning", so as long as your interpretation of Magnetism agrees with this, it seems possible to not disagree. However, I would personally stick to Lightning+Earth, although I have no idea how Kishi views Magnetism.
    • (Of course, the recent revelation that it's highly likely to be Earth+Wind kills our discussion, I suppose.)
  • I was once a proponent of the idea that Fire+Lightning=Blaze, because I felt that lightning's charged plasma nature would "enhance" fire to produce solar plasma, which in this case was expressed as black flames (because Kishi thinks black fire looks cool). In an alternative interpretation, Amaterasu is only fire, but so hot that it's charged - Lightning thus allows one to manipulate it. (Not that any of this is valid anymore, seeing the recent classifications.) If this was true, however, it would not disagree with the pattern theory.

Again, I apologize for being so late; I may be around a tad bit more often, so please do feel free to chat me up. --GoDai (talk) 03:46, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

I just travelled quite a bit as a child, so I was able to loosely learn a few languages during my earlier life. I certainly don't think that it's anything special, and even if it was a talent, we all have that in some area. Now, onto Naruto-related business:

  • I would feel better about Blaze and Black Lightning if the "strengthening" was just caused by a combination with Yin or Yang. However, Darui and the Third Raikage were not recorded as users of Yin or Yang, so that seems unlikely. Seems like we do need to go with the "stronger version" idea, unless Black Lightning is not really like Amaterasu. Perhaps Gengetsu's oil-like water could be a similar sort of "stronger version".
  • My current idea for Magnet Release is that the Wind nature represents an invisible force that acts on objects from a distance, causing them to float, as seen in the Ice and Scorch natures. If floating ice panels and floating fireballs can be created, it seems that Magnet Release controlling floating earth (sand, metals) is possible. If so, then the name "Magnet" would just be symbolism for forces that move earthen materials and Magnet Release would encompass both normal magnetism (for iron sand, Toroi's technique) and other unspecified forces (for gold dust, sand). This new definition would be okay with my pattern theory, as Earth would still enhance Wind (to make an invisible earth-controlling force, similar to my "solidified air" theory for sand) and the result would be "opposite" to Lightning, possibly meaning that Lightning and Magnetism oppose each other (Lightning would revert Magnetism to Wind, according to the pattern theory).
    • While we tend to think of magnets as being related to electricity in modern times (electromagnetism), it is likely that people in old times didn't know about the relationship, and simply believed magnets to be rocks that could push other rocks with this mysterious pressure (that's what it feels like when I play with magnets, anyway), so perhaps Kishimoto's combination makes sense. I support the idea that the natures are named in a traditional manner, while the effects of the Releases' techniques are more technical. (I use Storm as strong evidence of that.) It's true that the Naruto world has advanced technology, but I think most of the technique names are named in ways that invoke old-language uses.
    • Of course, the above is just my theory and for now, we should not label any of Gaara's techniques as Magnet Release in my opinion. Kishimoto has occasionally redefined things (like Amaterasu) but until such a move is made, it seems that sand-based techniques should remain considered non-elemental.
  • I personally liked it better when the Tailed Beast Skills were just unique abilities, with Son being the only one possessing an advanced nature. However, I did share your idea that the Tailed Beasts, Ten-Tails included, would have the ten natures, when it was revealed that Shukaku had Magnet Release (and consequently Kokuō with Boil). I always did feel that Wood's mysterious relation to Tailed Beasts was a hint of sorts, and I suppose that the Shinju cleared that up. I don't know if Kishimoto is actually going to follow through with our expectations (since he's great at that), but if I was forced to match them up, I'd say the following (I don't have strong confidence in them, at all):
    • Isobu would have Ice. I can imagine it using ice mirrors, since Yagura used the Water Release: Water Mirror Technique.
    • Gyūki's beam-like techniques in video games seem similar to Storm Release to me, so it seems okay to guess that Gyūki has Storm. The octopus-like shape could explain the Water component. The ink might also be symbolically connected to dark storm clouds (reminiscent of the movie's usage of Storm).
    • Chōmei would have my Wind+Lightning combination, a super-vibration sort of nature, since insect wings do that. Wind+Lightning also reminds me of light, and that might connect to the insect scales.
    • Kurama is a nine-tailed fox, which also bears connections to ghostly fire, and could have Scorch. Otherwise, Explosion would be my guess, given Kurama's connection to disasters. I suppose it could trade Explosion for the Wind+Lightning I gave to Chōmei.
    • Matatabi would be given Explosion... for now. Ideally, it would be given Scorch, due to its being a bakeneko and its relation to ghostly fire. (I actually want to give it Dark Release due to using ghostly blue flames, but I must hold off unless Dark is shown to be canon.)
    • Saiken... since Earth+Lightning failed to be Magnet, it might be something that has a connection to alkaline substances (since they're earthen and can explode), but this is a weak theory. If Earth enhances Lightning, it might form a different kind of force that can turn earth into a soapy or alkaline substance. If I recall correctly, my theory on Soap Bubble Ninjutsu was that it combined Saiken's natural alkali and Utakata's Water nature. It's possible now that the natural alkali is this unexpected combination. Then, just like how Deidara combines Explosion (Fire+Lightning?) and Earth to make Exploding Clay, Utakata would combine "Alkali" (Earth+Lightning?) and Water to make his special soap bubbles.
  • Anyway, that was just me rambling, since I haven't thought too deeply about it, so don't trust that it's my final thoughts on everything. Again, I don't quite strongly believe in it. As for the pattern theory, it's still alive for me; I'll just need to update it when I actually have time.

If you would like to know what I want from Naruto now, I simply want closure regarding this elemental matter, because it's a big part of why I got into Naruto in the first place. I was curious about how Kishimoto saw these elements, and I just need that to be wrapped up.

  • 1. I would like Crystal, Dark, Steel and Swift to be introduced as official in some side material for consistency. For me, Crystal would be a kekkei tōta (No one knew about it, so kekkei genkai seems unlikely, and kekkei tōta are considered to be much rarer, which fits Guren's condition for me). Dark, Steel and Swift were mentioned to be kekkei genkai, but Kishimoto might change his mind. I feel like Dark's ability to absorb other natures might place it apart, although I wanted it to be a combination involving Fire (Fire+Wind, long time ago). I would like Steel to be an enhanced Earth (black earth, just like black fire and lightning) instead of a kekkei genkai, but it could be Earth+Lightning (Pattern theory survives only if Steel changes Earth into Steel and does not produce any Steel on its own). Since 迅雷 (jinrai) means "thunder", I would like Swift (迅) to be Wind+Lightning (which I gave a placeholder name "Thunderclap") if it used super-vibrating slashes or sonic waves instead of just speeding the user up.
  • 2. If the above does not happen, have the movie villain or other characters use a single technique for each of the remaining natures. Kishimoto is much more involved in this upcoming movie, so he should have the ability to have characters use two simple techniques. Even if it's used by random unnamed ninja fighting in an opening scene, we would know that these new natures were approved by Kishimoto. I certainly don't count on it, but if he does, we can simply take those two and Explosion and fit them to Earth+Lightning, Wind+Lightning, and Fire+Lightning.

That was a bit long, but since I've been away for a while, I might as well tell someone my thoughts.

I spend most of my free time with my friends if possible, and since I spend a most of my time studying, almost all remaining time goes to connecting with people. I'm not a sports or gaming guy. I enjoy most kinds of movies, especially sci-fis and thrillers. My translating work is also non-paid and is more of a hobby to keep practicing my Korean (chatting in Korean is no problem, but more difficult words require constant use). Be assured, I am obviously nowhere close to superhuman, and certainly not above anyone else. Why don't you tell me a little about yourself next time? I might not be back for a while, though, haha. --GoDai (talk) 12:55, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

ORAS Edit

The protomorphosis happens if Groudon/Kyogre absorbs large amounts of natural energy. Senjutsu confirmed in Pokémon! :D • Seelentau 愛 15:46, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

chat Edit

Been a while, can you come on chat? :D --Sajuuk [Mod] Talk Page | Contribs | Channel 11:59, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

^ If you can. --Sajuuk [Mod] Talk Page | Contribs | Channel 23:06, December 17, 2014 (UTC)
^ If possible dude. --Sajuuk [Mod] Talk Page | Contribs | Channel 17:19, January 7, 2015 (UTC)
^ And again. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 22:51, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
It was about something else actually... --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 22:54, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
Whatever, it's not really all that important. Not really sure where all the "anti-chat" is coming from, but it's interesting to see... --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 23:05, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
Able to join chat? --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 21:22, February 2, 2015 (UTC)
^ --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 13:31, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
Alright. :) --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 13:56, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Ootsutsuki Edit

Na, they're an alien life form. • Seelentau 愛 13:21, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re: prejudice Edit

Just was wondering based on your comments. For the record I'm Catholic, but I'm not going to interfere with you; Sajuuk already removed my question.Gemnist (talk) 00:40, December 26, 2014 (UTC)Gemnist

Re: Oro Edit

Sorry for replying so late. I must have skimmed over your comment. The databook neither says Oro can, nor cannot, specifically. It only mentions White Zetsu as a user. However, by doing a little bit of digging into the Living Corpse Reincarnation, and it doesn't mention anything about Orochimaru modifying his body to make it look like the original. The possessed body takes on his form automatically. This was shown with Genryuumaru, Oro's host prior to his attempt on Sasuke. The manual modifying, thought to be done by Orochimaru, and possibly his Vanishing Facial Copy Technique, is technically speculation.--KotoTalk Page-My Contributions 05:35, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

Elveo, I've corrected my mistake. I paid a little too much attention to how Oro looked like a Zetsu version of himself immediately after possessing the body of a parasite clone. In that, I was probably acting in bias. That's my fault. Thank you for correcting me.--KotoTalk Page-My Contributions 19:00, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Yo Edit

Sorry for my late reply, for this week. Yeah, Naruto and Pokemon anime resumes to be aired. And you're welcome, I personally liked the idea of today's episode :) —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 12:30, January 8, 2015 (UTC)

Re: old hamura Edit

In the movie? His screenshots aren't out yet. Though I have his Retsu no Sho pic (he's aged a lot)!--Hisana456 (talk) 13:49, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

Here: http://imgur.com/Nr6zGBF --Hisana456 (talk) 13:56, January 10, 2015 (UTC)
Exactly! He was supposed to be the 'hot' one.. but yeah, he's Hago's twin afterall.--Hisana456 (talk) 14:05, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Jin no Sho English Edit

You do realize I live in Germany? :D I have no idea about English release dates, sorry. • Seelentau 愛 18:38, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

Classifications Edit

Those nature releases that I just reverted edits on come from non-canonical sources so cannot be classified as being a "Kekkei Genkai". Those edits are actually speculation added by the user, unless you can link me to any valid source that claims them as being such. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 16:35, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

It's likely a mistake in the articles as, unless a databook or character physically stated that they're a kekkei genkai (which nobody said for the Crystal Release), it's technically speculative in nature and should be removed. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 16:38, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re: I suppose Edit

Nope, nothing. • Seelentau 愛 21:11, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Nope. The special chapter isn't included, not sure about the interview. • Seelentau 愛 21:36, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
It totally is, I use it for almost all translations. I only use the physical copy when something's blurry or too small. • Seelentau 愛 22:08, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

re: jin no sho Edit

Are you talking about the English one (if there is one, link please) or the japanese one?
-- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 21:45, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Here. How did you know I had it though? -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 22:16, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
K then. Congrats on the 14000 edits, btw. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 22:44, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

re: tailed beast genders Edit

Where did the databooks say they have genders? Is the answer to that question.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 23:33, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Kaguya advanced natures Edit

As I said seconds ago, she doesn't have the Kekkei Genkai thingy in her profile, even though she uses the Byakugan. This either means that her Byakugan is no Kekkei Genkai, or it means that they forgot to add it. But even if they forgot to add it, it doesn't mean that she has more than Byakugan as a Kekkei Genkai. Furthermore, we don't even know if Storm Release came from the tailed beasts. Madara simply had it, without any further explanation or anything. Then, for the tailed beasts' kekkei genkai, I'm not sure. We need some definitive proof that someone who absorbs the tailed beasts like Madara and Obito did, gains their abilities as well.
On another note, there's a digital version of the databook coming out, labeled as Version 2 on iTunes. So we might see some corrections, hopefully. • Seelentau 愛 00:36, January 26, 2015 (UTC)

Why are you always ignoring the most crucial points? Kaguya isn't the origin of the tailed beast, the Ten-Tails is. Furthermore, the simple fact that Hagoromo split the chakra and changed the parts to something entirely new, changed everything. The beasts could've easily gained their Kekkei Genkai only at that point, because they didn't possess blood or anything before, being pure chakra and all (or even more, pure natural energy).
If Madara really gained the Storm Release through one of the tailed beasts, then why was no beast ever attributed with it? I know that the absence is no evidence, but it's something that needs to be taken into consideration. • Seelentau 愛 00:55, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
Yes, but as I said, did everyone who absorbed the tailed beasts (Obito, Madara, Naruto) gain access to all their natures? If so, why didn't everyone use them? Obito didn't use one special nature, Madara used Storm Release which we can't safely attribute to a tailed beast, only Naruto gained access to their powers because the tailed beasts allowed him to. So if it's the case that the jinchuriki needs their beast's approval, then it might just simply be that Kaguya didn't get that approval. • Seelentau 愛 14:52, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
And again you ignore that the tailed beasts aren't her original chakra. • Seelentau 愛 16:53, January 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re: periods/timeskips question Edit

Not enitrely. The Last is part of Blank Period. • Seelentau 愛 15:36, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Why? We'd list it after The Last, under a different headline or so. I think we did that in Sasuke's article. • Seelentau 愛 15:45, January 31, 2015 (UTC)
Oh, yes. There will be some problems sooner or later, but I believe the best thing is to go by the databooks. • Seelentau 愛 15:48, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Jin no Sho version 2 Edit

I don't have a link or that artbook right now, I'll probably be able to answer tomorrow. • Seelentau 愛 22:46, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

-no illegal links-. I didn't find any correction so far. • Seelentau 愛 22:57, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
They did correct the mistake in Sasuke's profile, where it says "Kakashi attacks Naruto" instead of "Sasuke attacks Naruto". Other than that, nothing so far. Danzo still doesnt have Summoning or Yin Release, Madara isn't listed as an Izanagi user and is the only user of Kanseitai - Susanoo. Anything else? • Seelentau 愛 23:16, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
In Minato's profile, it is said that he saved Kushina from Kirigakure. This was corrected to Kumogakure. • Seelentau 愛 02:47, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
In Chojuro's profile, it is said that he comes from Kumogakure. This was corrected to Kirigakure. • Seelentau 愛 15:41, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

You mean, like scans? None that I know of. But there's not much new stuff from what I know. • Seelentau 愛 13:47, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

There's nothing about Kaguya, or at least it hasn't been posted yet. • Seelentau 愛 13:52, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

I only translated some of it. • Seelentau 愛 23:24, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

I can only tell you what I told those guys at NF: Gratitude doesn't help me pay my internet connection. Also, I have other hobbies, so yeah. • Seelentau 愛 23:45, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
I thought about it, but I have no idea how much money would be a good price for how much work. I also don't like to make a hobby my job, because whenever I absolutely have to do it, I tend not to do it at all. And no, never. Although I might be working soon, so I'll probably have to reduce playing it. • Seelentau 愛 23:56, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Hey, you Edit

Yeah, it has been awhile hasn't it? You always know where I am, man. Kirin's got a alternate origin story for Kaguya and the Otsutsuki Clan going right now, but it isn't really picking up any speed. He and I are just have discussions back and forth on different topics. You are more than welcome to just stop by some time and hit me up on my wall. Let me know if there is anything you want to talk about. Omega64 狐 (talk) 21:14, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

I agree, fanon really isn't my cup of tea either. He's trying to really push a comment on it, but I just can't get into Kaguya's character at all. I'd rather create a different scenario without her completely. We can talk about Hashirama's cells and Izanagi if you want, just come on over. Omega64 狐 (talk) 21:51, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Pardon my nosiness, but I saw Omega on Narutopedia, and so I just got very curious (you know how he isn't much of a fan of this wiki over Naruto Answers). Concerning my Kaguya story, it's not so much fanon as opposed to an actual theory of Kaguya's back story. After all, I didn't really change anything and I even said the entire purpose of the story was to provide an explanation about elements in the series that weren't further expanded upon. The only real fanon part would be the addition of an original character that I created, but even then, he could easily be cut out. I just included him because he added a bit more to Kaguya's character and I was having fun writing the story, so I figured why not. Honestly, the story I wrote has more canon elements than it does fanon elements. It really is an explanation to the history of the shinobi world that Kishimoto didn't write. Just wanted to point that out since I saw my name be brought up.--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 03:04, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

If you don't mind me asking, what elements are those? If it's the fact that the Otsutsuki doesn't come from an alternate dimension, I believe I explained that I did that because it was never explicitly stated in the manga, only in the databook. So until it is either in the manga or the databook is translated to where I can read it for myself, I decided not to include that fact for multiple reasons (which I do believe I explained). Was there anything else that contradicts the manga canon?--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 16:30, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Tailed Beast KKG and Jinchuuriki Edit

I believe they're listed as Kekkei Genkai user because they can access the kekkei genkai of their tailed beasts. I'm not 100% convinced that Roshi has Lava Release as his own kekkei genkai, but I think he could access Yonbi's kekkei genkai as well. Naruto is friends with all tailed beasts anyway, so he can use their chakra as he wants, they wouldnt refuse it. Gaara, on the other hand, could not use Shukaku's chakra, because it hated him. Or so I think. But as I said in the thread, there's no definitie and clear answer to all of this, so a discussion is more or less pointless. • Seelentau 愛 22:39, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, the wording does that. Or maybe he had the kekkei genkai and Yonbi helped him awaken it or whatever. • Seelentau 愛 22:46, February 4, 2015 (UTC)


Naruto's Yin Edit

Do you know how Naruto has Yin release? because according to DB icons he doesn't have it see Naruto and also Sasuke doesn't have Yang release. One assumption is that Rinnegan and Truth Seeking Ball grants all release so is it true? I know the Truth Seeking ball are at least 4 nature elemental release, so is it really possible that Truth-Seeking Ball granted him Yin release. My guess is that he lacks one and according to FF-Suzaku the databook says Hagoromo grants Yin-Yang release, so couldn't it be possible that the ability Hagoromo gave them is to use this technique simultaneously i.e. Naruto's Yang Release and Sasuke's Yin release make Six Paths Chibaku Tensei a Yin-Yang Release. One explanation I got for Naruto's YYR is that his healing ability is one and he created the eye from nothing (yin) and he used Yang release to connect nerves, but it is also possible that the whole eye can be created from Kakashi's body cells (Naruto said he made the eyes from Kakashi's body in manga). Please take a look on my talkpage WindStar and I already had a discussion about this, what is correct?--Naruto uzu6254 (talk) 18:27, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

Re: volume 72 tankobon Edit

check raw-hunters.com • Seelentau 愛 20:56, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, why didn't you say so? :D I don't know about volume, 71, but the changes in 72 are this and this, as well as this. • Seelentau 愛 21:27, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
I have no idea what you mean, but I do have volume 71 here. What page/panel should I screenshot for you? • Seelentau 愛 21:33, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
So chapter 686 it is. [1]. • Seelentau 愛 21:54, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
How so? • Seelentau 愛 21:59, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

re: tsb Edit

Talk it to the talkpage and hope we get some info from our translators? Because I'm just as confused about it as you are. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 09:37, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

/shrug. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 09:46, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
Can't see the image, whatever you're trying to show me. What chapter was it in?
EDIT: Never mind, saw it. Still counted nine. Take a look at this. I think it's best to say there is no set number; it varies for users. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 10:17, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
It is weird. Hell, I remember a user claiming someone had 11 TSB. Kishi decided not to be consistent with the number. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 10:36, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
Maybe Obito, Madara and Hagoromo had ten because they were all the Ten-Tails' jinchūriki and Naruto had nine because he had the nine tailed beasts' chakra w/o the Gedo Mazo? Either way, the TSBs are screwy. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 10:47, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
Kinda. But Kaguya only had one huge TSB, rather than ten. Maybe it fits her "all chakra should be one and belongs to me" mantra. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 10:54, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re: your behavior Edit

Na, I don't use drugs. I'm just a person who wears his heart on his sleeve. • Seelentau 愛 13:25, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

It's not the first time people get insulted here. And no one has a single face. • Seelentau 愛 15:58, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Sure I would love to talk Edit

I'm quite new to this website so excuse me if I'm a little slow. If there is an instant messanger or something, or maybe gmail? I'm available nowGodlyHades (talk) 19:10, February 11, 2015 (UTC)

Alright Edit

Thank you for taking your time to reply to my thread/topic/discussion.

See you when it is posted then GodlyHades (talk) 19:58, February 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Poke ShowdownEdit

There are, in the team-builder. Are you playing randoms?--Omojuze (talk) 22:26, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

Tobirama's death Edit

Where was it said that he died in the first great war? • Seelentau 愛 17:15, February 16, 2015 (UTC)

Where was it said that Hiruzen became Hokage in the first great war, then? I'm looking for the reason as to why we assumed that Tobirama died in that war. Was it because the Sannin were older in the second war? • Seelentau 愛 18:20, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
Yes, but that mustn't mean that Tobirama died in the first war, hm? I mean, as long as it wasn't said that he died in one of the great wars or that Hiruzen became Hokage in one of them, that couldve all happened outside of a war, right? • Seelentau 愛 18:28, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
They weren't surrounded, they were just hunted by 20 enemies. :O I have no idea if and where the time of Tobirama's death and/or Hiruzen's Hokage-ing was mentioned. • Seelentau 愛 18:45, February 16, 2015 (UTC)

Re: can it be deduced that Edit

I actually never thought about that before, lol. But na, it's a nice idea, but nothing really indicates that. • Seelentau 愛 19:58, February 16, 2015 (UTC)

Source Editor Edit

To prevent edits like this from occuring (because they've happened to me before as well as other users), I suggest going to your preferences and setting Preferred editor: to Source editor, only if you haven't done so already. WS7125[Mod]WindStar7125 TaskWindStar7125&#039;s Task 20:53, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

Really? Eh, well, the wiki has its screwy moments, I guess... WS7125[Mod]WindStar7125 TaskWindStar7125&#039;s Task 21:14, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re: WoW Edit

Late response but my real life has gotten exceptionally #(#*y as of late.

Anyway, I have quit several times actually. About a month into Cata and MoP at release. Both was because of school however and not really the overall status of the game. Once I graduated I simply didn't go back (not much of a point and I was already playing XIV at the time, until WoD release where I hit a burnout about 2 or 3 weeks ago where I have once again started focusing mainly on XIV. If this holds I'll end up in Azeroth for a few months before taking a mini-vacation in Eorzea. But yes I do actually enjoy WoD, I'm in love with my Garrison and I like actually going out into the world because now I am actually doing stuff instead of just flying over it.

But if I had to rank them,

  1. WotLK: First expac where I actually got to be a hardcore raider, until school kicked me in the teeth. But before that, we did goods.
  2. TBC: This is basically where I started as far as I am concerned. Made my main, picked my favorite spec (lolret) and yeah.
  3. Cata/MoP: They are basically the same for me as I barely played both of them when they were relevant. But I would give a slight nudge to Cata because of the 1-60 revamp...even though heirlooms basically murder any real point of seeing any of it.
  4. Vanilla: Start point. Got to Southshore before Blizz decided to have the Horde blow it up before quitting. This is why I said TBC was where I started, the first toon I made I still have but he is in no way my main.

You'll notice WoD isn't up there because yeah, not done yet. Though I am quite enjoying to storylines of it though. Except for Spires. Eff those birds.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 01:25, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Oh they definitely killed professions, but at least to me they were slowly killing themselves for years. If you were a raider you had to have very specific professions to maximize your personal contribution to the raid, for example before they gave Holy Paladins a damned mana regain, we were chugging mana pots during raids, so you had to be able to make your own potions. I like the idea that professions aren't mandatory, but I do agree they could have gone in a far less, murder solution like they did with garrisons.

As for daily quest hubs I both agree and disagree. On the one hand, I do like the (very) old school method of grinding mobs to get exalted, that makes reaching exalted far more "worth it" when you know not everybody is going to have the stones to actually grind to exalted for almost no real reward (tabards, a mount, a pet, nothing that will actually help you). On the other hand, no daily hubs mean my main method of making gold is gone and as such I've literally been floundering for gold. Not to mention they did give me something to do. I understand the why there are no hubs; MoP pissed a lot of people off and poisoned the water on dailies. But again it's another reasoning of the how that was off.

And as a proud member of the Alliance, I laugh at what they did to Doomhammer. Muhahahaha. But seriously though as far as I could gather, everyone has been saying the Horde side of the story has been seriously lacking, while we on the Alliance got ourselves the best new character of the expac.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 11:38, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Considering draenei in general has done all of nothing since 2.0 (yes the beginning of Burning Crusade. No Velen ain't do *@#$ in the Sunwell) yes. Yrel is the best new character in WoD.
Removing reforging was dumb. I was glad they removed hit, expertise, ect. Once you capped those, you never did anything with them, hell you barely did anything with them while you were trying to cap them. Getting rid of the unnecessary stats was smart. What wasn't smart was adding versatility (which is basically useless) and then not giving us Reforging. That was dumb. That was real dumb. And don't get me wrong, as I said I love daily hubs. That was my main source of income and without the Argent Tournament I would have never been able to afford getting my Netherwing Drake. But yeah, the beginning of MoP poisoned daily hubs and Blizzard does what Blizzard does and throws everything out when people complain.
Which is honestly their weakest point. Crap goes down and they freak, so they toss everything out without just kinda fixing it to make it better. People hated that they all there was to do outside of raiding was the dozens of dailies across Pandaria, so they all but got rid of dailies in Draenor when they could have just put a single dailies quest hub in Draenor and called it a day.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 12:29, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
Oh no it was completely asinine to kill off AU-Velen when our Velen is still on Azeroth doing all of jack and #($*. That being said, AU-Velen nuking himself to purify a naaru was a pretty badass way to go out. So yes, hella stupid to kill AU-Velen off, but they did a very good job of doing it, at least in my opinion. As for why Yrel is awesome, it's mainly due to how Alliance heroes are typically presented in WoW. Most of them either don't do anything ever or is named Varian Wyrnn. Having Yrel go from Velen's apprentice to Exarch and basically leading the Alliance forces with your character was great, and again this is coming from a person who's heroes have either done nothing or was named Varian.
And as dirty as it is to agree with the dreaded Feminists, but yes they were right about this one. I don't know about Velen's niece but being Maraad's love interest would have just made her the draenei Tyrande where her true drive against the Iron Horde would be Blackhand nuking her lover. Which...would not be good because that's what the exact opposite of what we have been complaining about when it comes to our heroes.
Now i have no idea whats up with the "Fat Alliance Neckbeard" thing or Gorgrond's lore for that matter. But yeah we didn't need yet another Horde focused expansion, not after TBC and MOP. (For the record, WotLK actually did well balancing both sides out, and Cata was all over the place. TBC basically became the Blood Elf Redemption Arc with their incorporation into the Horde while the draenei were you know just kinda there, and MoP was super super Horde focused to the point where the Barren's patch had a long detailed quest about the Darkspear Rebellion and the Alliance had mechanical cats.)

I could go on with this for hours. :D --TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 15:56, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Standard consensus is that it's the mark that means that when this is all over, she will be the full on leader of the draenei. What that mark actually means is anyone's guess, but another common consensus is that it's the mark that shows that Velen is a prophet. Perhaps this means Yrel will be a prophet. Who knows.
Slight correction, actually big correction. Tirion Fordring was kicked out of the Alliance before the start of Vanilla because he didn't kill the orc Eitrigg due to both of them being honor brothers. Fordring has not been a part of the Alliance since. Thrall was all over Cata and MoP (but especially Cata, Vol'jin took over in MoP) and yes Anduin appeared more than Varian but he did comparatively little that mattered to the Alliance as a whole (A lot of what he did was very Pandaria and Garrosh being a dick focused. See his time with Wrathian and the Timeless Isle). But in terms of the Alliance doing Alliance things for the Alliance. It's been Varian, guest staring the other leaders only to highlight Varian. For example Tyrande about to go hog monkey on a temple with Varian telling her it was a bad idea.
Anywho, love and revenge is still present, just not because Yrel was Maraad arm candy. Her sister's blood was used to summon the Dark Star in Shadowmoon Valley and that was pretty much the driving force for her. As for Maraad, at least for me I'm pretty sure he comes back as a spirit in the mission where Yrel becomes an Exarch but what he does or says I cannot recall. Either way, Blizzard has a terrible track record with female heroes when they have significant other, and Yrel would have been no different. So I'm glad that was scrapped in favor of the (while still generic) "you killed my sister" motivation they got going for her.
And yes Tyrande. Yes she did great during Warcraft III. Once WoW actually started, she did all of jack and #($* until MoP made her a badass again. The downside they also made her stupid, as in the aforementioned Temple Assault where her plan while it would have worked would have destroyed the Temple and gotten most of her people killed, while Varian's plan of "flush the idiots out" had minimal casualties on their side while the Horde was annihilated and the temple was completely fine.
Back onto Gorgrond, are you sure? Because I literally cannot find anything about this. Got a link or something?
MoP was really Horde focused in that almost everything was Garrosh driven. He was the one violently invading Pandaria. He was the one who orchestrated the Divine Bell plot which resulted in the Purge of Dalaran. The assault on the Barrens as I've said was heavily Horde focused with a awesome questline of Chen Stormstout reuniting with his old buddies Thrall and Vol'jin, and the Alliance equivalent was mechanical cats and a short chat with Vol'jin. During the aforementioned Divine Bell plotline, we got to see the blood elves actually take stuff into their own hands and Lothemar actually becoming a character, while we get to see Jaina go right back to "Horde are evil, kill them all!" and just stay there. Looking from the outside in, everything was very Horde driven, and even the final assault on Orgrimmar which people like to cite as "See Alliance you get to destroy our capital city!" fail to notice that Orgrimmar is still there, the Alliance went in making sure they didn't destroy the city and only went after Garrosh's forces and not the rest of the Horde. It was an Alliance victory sure, but it was done in a way that the Horde was to also come out on top, or at least as far as they could be with their entire infrastructure collapsing.
And yes, the Alliance did win the war. But it didn't feel like the Alliance won the war. It felt more like the Horde killed itself (which it did) and the Alliance happened to be there, breathing.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 18:46, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Light that was a long response. Like I said I could do this for hours. :D--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 18:47, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

I am hoping they keep her around cause Titans know we need draenei to actually do something, but yeah she may very well become completely irrelevant next expansion but she'll be awesome while we have her and if she leaves on a high note then fantastic, she doesn't go down like Jaina does.

And incorrect again, the Argent Crusade is very much pro-everyone and anti-Scourge. They do allow Forsaken into their ranks after all, should they wish to join. Most however are just very very pro-Sylvanas (note: I did not say pro-Horde.) and thus not willing to join anything that isn't Sylvanas. As for Thrall, oh he doesn't have blind hatred for humans oh no, but make no mistake, Thrall is Horde, he never left the Horde itself when he left the position of Warchief when he had to be Shaman Thrall, then came back when he had to kill Garrosh and he swore to follow Vol'jin when the rest of the Horde leaders declared him their new leader. Tirion on the other hand was kicked out of the Alliance, like full turkey kicked out and has never once considered rejoining it, instead doing the Argent Crusade thing to purify Lordaeron (and yet has made no moves or claims to the Capital City, probably because he knows that until Sylvanas is put down, it is Horde territory).

That trivia note says that this was changed before Alpha, which means before the Alliance people came in and complained. So if Blizz scraped it, they scrapped it because they wanted to. Similar to a Worgen questline in Shadowmoon because they are also a race that has done all of jack and $($^ since they arrived.
As for what comes after,
  1. The Dark Below is a popular opinion. The home of the naga, heavy on the Burning Legion, things like that.
  2. If not a Dark Below expansion, then a Burning Legion expansion. Provided we kill Gul'dan or no, there is clearly a Legion presence on Draenor that wasn't there during the original Rise of the Horde. Perhaps AU Kil'jaeden and MU Kil'jaeden get together and decide to murder Azeroth because they can?
  3. If I was in Blizzard's seat, I'd do a lot. Mind you a lot of what I'd do would be crazy.
  1. Personally I'd remove flying, or at least the amount of flying we have now. I get that people only like seeing the world during the leveling process, but then right after they just sit on their asses in their capital cities and then complain that there is nothing to do in the world, but then quickly complain when there is stuff to do in the world because it's boring as all they had to do was fly in get the thing and fly back to the quest giver.
  2. Reestablish Stormwind and Orgrimmar as the major faction hubs. Obvious reasons.
  3. Legion focused expansion with active Burning Legion invasions. If the player base grows complacent they will pay for it. A Legion strong hold appears somewhere and it must be combated or a certain number of demons must be defeated across the whole of Azeroth or else a settlement gets destroyed or taken over until a whole new set of requirements are met. If the players decide they are just gonna hide in Shattrath for whatever reason, when they come back Stormwind and Orgrimmar will be burning in felfire with Varian and Vol'jin relocated someplace else.
  4. Not sure what I'd do with professions. I'd rather them not be mandatory but at the same time not completely useless.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 21:52, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
  1. I know, that's why I would like flying to removed from the old world again. Once we leave Draenor and is back on Azeroth I would like those cities to be the focus point again, and us grounded so that the world can feel like a world again, instead of a giant lobby.
  2. Well aware.
  3. To be fair, there is no way they could actually fix all of that. They'd have to completely 100% redo every zone every expansion. I don't think that has anything to do with story but has everything to do with how impossible that actually is.
  4. Yeah that ain't happening. They already said nothing will happen to our timeline and that basically everything we do here will help a future AU Azeroth, but MU Azeroth will still be a #($*hole.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 12:00, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
Oh the races I agree and disagree. I had a lot more to say but work got in the way and had to cut it short. >_>
  1. I only put the main cities because it required less typing. But yes I would love to see all the cities sacked.
  2. It is a problem, but I believe it is one that can be handled if they focused on one conflict at a time. Cata came in with two conflicts, Garrosh's war of aggression and the Hour of Twilight, that's why there is so much of an orc burnout because the Garrosh storyline bled across two expansions. Had the Alliance-Horde War been the focus of only Pandaria it would have been swell. But yes, Warcraft 4 would solve most of this but that could have the after effect of dramatically altering how WoW would have to work, unless they split them off into two different universes which I wouldn't really want. So their alternative method has been books...with varying degrees of success.
  3. Way to difficult to manage because it would practically require that you only level up in sequence to the story. And yes fixing TBC zones and WotLK zones would be great but again, that would be time taken away from adding something new, which was a big big problem with Cataclysm.
  4. The point, as far as I can gather, is that the Vanguard (the assault force that went through the Dark Portal) is made up of people who are not complete assholes. Besides the fact that if we don't stop the Iron Horde they can just keep coming back to our Azeroth, nobody wants to just doom another Azeroth or any other worlds to the Iron Horde simply because "it isn't our porblem". This is the reason the Alliance Expedition set out to destroy Ner'zhul's portals instead of just leaving when they had the chance; they couldn't damn other worlds simply because theirs was safe. Burden of being heroes I guess.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 12:40, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
Ah yes that thing. My cousin told me about it or at least a similar one years back. I never got into it (lazy) but I can defiantly see the appeal.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 13:59, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
  1. Oh while I agree there are a lot of servers, a game like WoW kinda needs them. While I personally would love if the game only had one server and everybody was on it, realistically that would not be a smart choice because Light that would just make everything busy.
  2. Garrosh was very inconsistent. He appeared as a whiny child (despite being at least a decade older than Thrall) and come Cataclysm he was very warmongering, but he wasn't completely evil (at least you can see from the Horde side. Alliance side we only saw warmongering). But it should be noted that Horde players hated him just as much as Alliance members, and it's because of that the decided to go ahead and make him piss on kittens evil in MoP.
  3. It is still better to focus on actual new content then updating old primarily because hells they are pratically running out of stuff. They've settled just about everything from Warcraft III and the Frozen Throne. We're reliving Warcraft I and II with WoD. If they don't tell new stories they can't progress at all.
  4. And like I said, the threat is "They could hurt other people". Gul'dan is not the only one who knows how to build portals, hell Gul'dan didn't even make the current Dark Portal the Iron Horde used him as a battery. Like I said we're there for two reasons: Keep our Azeroth safe and keep everyone else safe. Neither the Horde and the Alliance are gonna up and abandon the free orcs and the draenei to whatever fate comes to them just because our Azeroth is safe.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 15:06, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Re: episode review Edit

Sorry for the late response... You're right, the lung expansion thing is kinda non-creative for me as well, it could have been better than copying Lee with everything on it. I personally don't like Shira's abilities so much because it makes Lee/Guy non unique. For the next battle, alright. It seems that Team 8 will suffer more for battling that Kusa team and I wonder how they will deal with it. More sweating and stuff. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 09:01, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Totally agree with you, let's see how they handle those stuffs. I bet that Team Asuma will face that Ame team for the same stage in the next episodes, perhaps we'll see Pain or Konan. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 18:14, March 3, 2015 (UTC)

Part 3 Orochimaru Edit

http://www.marineford.com/Thread-Anime-News-Interview-Reveals-Orochimaru-Kabuto-To-Return-In-Naruto-Part-3

http://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/2pg3pk/spoilers_idea_for_part_3_and_orochimarus_return/

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3466021866

Doesn't seem trustworthy to me. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 11:59, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

I like to think that if it isn't posted on NarutoForums from someone trustworthy, or if it isn't on saiyanisland then it must be fake. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 13:17, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Re-Open Thread Edit

I would like to contribute to this thread: Thread:141848. Is it possible for you to re-open it? ShinyMagikarp (talk) 10:08, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

No, Elveonora cannot reopen that thread as it was automatically closed by a script. We have a rule against bumping dead threads anyway: if you really want to contribute further, make a new thread that references that one. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 10:15, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
Oops. I didn't realize that was the definition of a "sysops" when reading Rule 4 of the forums: If a sysop closes a thread on the forums, do not go around the wiki complaining that the topic was locked, either via making a thread of complaint or spamming sysops via their talkpages.
I apologize. I didn't know that an automatically archived thread was considered locked by an administrator.
ShinyMagikarp (talk) 10:32, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
No, that rule applies to when a forum moderator or forum operator manually closes a thread, not when the script closes it.
And Elveonora is a forum mod, not a sysop. I'm a forum op myself, not a sysop. That rule needs to be clarified. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 10:37, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

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re: meme Edit

Eh, that's cool. Though it did say "Just as planned," correct? WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 19:29, April 11, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, and good work with the Naruto meme thing. It'd be nice to have some fun around here. WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 19:42, April 11, 2015 (UTC)

Chat?Edit

You VS Me. 1 V 1. Foxy Boxing. Rules - there are no rules. Be there or be square..--Omojuze (talk) 19:36, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

I shouldn't really interrupt this, but I think Omojuze is suggesting you join the chat... --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 20:34, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Good luck Edit

I'm not a forum operator any longer. I just removed the rights from myself. :) --Sajuuk 08:35, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

"Suggesting you like me a little bit <3 On topic:" Edit

I don't know whether to applaud this or be very afraid. xD jk ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 15:05, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

the red rinnegan like sharingan is called the rinne sharingan and Byakugan and her third eye is a kekkei moura.

Re: TSB Edit

Good thing I translated the article a couple days ago: http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=53954737&postcount=297Seelentau 愛 13:03, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Woops. Sorry. Edit

I didn't mean to post that question as if it were a form. It was more or less a way of saying how similar the ability was to Kamui, though I used Kakashi as a way of pointing it out. 'Implanting the eyes into Kakashi' was a reference to how it is literally just Kamui with a big ball surrounding him.--User:ExyleCageExyleCageWasHere

Re: Prediction/Opinion Edit

I never wasted a thought on that, lol. They're obviously related to Kaguya. If the Rinnegan aren't artificial, they're also related to Hagoromo. Buuut knowing Kishimoto, he won't explain it at all. • Seelentau 愛 16:15, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

Thread:178382 Edit

Any reason why no one stepped in to stop the thread from escalating? (If this keeps happening, I'm seriously going to have to step my sorry game up >_<) WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 06:38, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re: The Last DVD Edit

Yeah, a couple of days later it should be ready online with high quality and subtitles. Looking forward to it. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 16:13, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re: The Last/Otsutsuki lore Edit

I have translated neither. You'd have to look through what has been translated by others. • Seelentau 愛 18:50, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

FF-Suzaku. WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 19:02, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re: "omg omg omg" Edit

Not gonna lie, I'm a bit torn. I drank the WoD Kool-aid and I don't plan to get burned twice. Everything in this expansion should have happened years ago, or at least before $(#*ing Draenor. That said, I really want the Ashbringer and I will most likely go back, just to hit level cap and quit again.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 13:12, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

Also I really do like that they are making Marksman not use pets. Before I quit I started leveling a marksman hunter just because they had a skill that made them lose their pet but didn't ruin their dps.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 13:13, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
Indeed. And now within a years time, Legion will be released. But from a story perspective, I'm already skeptical. During this time the Alliance will most likely lose Dalaran again (which makes me sad), I'm pretty sure Tirion is dead (as we get the Ashbringer), I don't believe Thrall is dead (Enhancement Shamans get Doomhammer, but I truly doubt they'll ever hurt Thrall). Overall, the ideas behind the Order Halls seem promising, bringing back the much needed class identity. We'll see how they handle out of raid things because again, 2 years ago, they said great things for WoD and look at what we got.
As an aside, I wish they kept to their guns over Flying in the expansion and in the future.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 13:34, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

re:thank you Edit

Your welcome, and may I ask where I was wrong at some points? I also saw that you removed my edit from Boruto's talkpage, and that's fine. --Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 (talk) 18:25, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

I didn't really mean to suggest that, what I was really suggesting was that life force is aligned with physical energy and that it is apart of chakra. I know that they aren't the exact same thing, or else everyone who has a lot of strong chakra, would have a powerful life force like the Uzumaki do, which isn't true. But as for what life force is, the English definition of life force is a force that gives something vitality or strength, or the energy that animates living creatures; the soul.

What else could life force be? We know that when someone's chakra is all gone they're dead, which would mean that their life force is all gone, since it's defined as the energy that keeps you alive. That's why Karin's heal bite can save people from the brink of death cause her chakra has great healing powers which was stated to stem from her life force. So her powerful life force influences her chakra. All we need now is for a databook or something to officially confirm this. --Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 (talk) 18:50, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

Well this next part is speculation, since I don't know for a fact, but I think life force makes up chakra just like physical energy and spiritual energy do. I know life force and physical energy aren't the same, I'm just saying that the life force has always been aligned with physical energy, so it's more closely related to it than it is to spiritual energy. --Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 (talk) 17:55, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Movie stuff Edit

That stuff was found on, I believe, the Japanese wikipedia or pixiv wiki. I'm pretty sure it came from the novel, which also apparently clarifies some of the Byakugan Princess stuff and has more story about Toneri's father. However, I haven't read it, so it should be corroborated first. FF-Suzaku (talk) 21:37, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

There's a bootleg copy of the book floating around out there. I think Seelentau has it. You also might be able to ask around on the Naruto reddit or Naruto Forums, I guess. OrganicDinosaur might be able to help. FF-Suzaku (talk) 09:57, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
https://www.reddit.com/user/OrganicDinosaur FF-Suzaku (talk) 09:11, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

Kishimoto's interview about Otsutsuki Edit

Hello. you mentionned here Thread:162137 that Kishimoto dicided to not explore details about Otsutsuki's clan. Could you share a link to the interview? I can't find it anywhere. Thanks a lot. --Sifadil (talk) 11:15, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Hello. It's me again. I managed to find it. It's the interview he did with Entermix magazine. Thanks for the previous reply.--Sifadil (talk) 01:28, August 23, 2015 (UTC)

Re: device Edit

That wasn't anal, I just think we should be more strict with these things. Yes, he can use those natures. And the device is cheating because you can store many techniques in them and release them without wasting the chakra again. Means your enemy uses chakra while you don't. In an exam it's obviously cheating. It's like writing down the answers beforehand and handing them in instead of writing them down in the exam. • Seelentau 愛 12:25, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

That's not the same, lol. • Seelentau 愛 12:54, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
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