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Re: x2

As to jutsu, I don't see how diluting Category:Jutsu impedes anything given how impossible it is to navigate the category. Semantics does nothing to alleviate that and is itself inconsistently applied.

As to ranks, some categories already exist, and there is similarly no Property:Kage. If neither is desirable then I missed that decision.

As to affiliation, I didn't notice until yesterday that things like Category:Leaf ninja are built into Template:Ninja loyalty. That was a waste of time on my part. I should note, however, that that only works for five affiliations (Leaf, Sand, Sound, Akatsuki, and Cloudwhy?), and everything else is just dumped into Category:Characters.

As to sources, it was admittedly a lazy effort. All the same, removing them entirely because you aren't sure what they refer to is counterproductive and recreates the problem of "Where the hell did any of this information come from?". I'll go back through and do the job proper. ~SnapperTo 23:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually, ref tags just break the semantics. Semantics also doesn't know how to deal with Part I/II divisions and (deceased) tags. Suggested solutions? ~SnapperTo 23:28, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Most of that was beyond my technical understanding, but I was able to pull out desired answers. Thank you for taking the time. Some final queries:
  • Property:Rank does not work as you explained; Anko Mitarashi (and most other characters) do not show up. The few characters that do all use | rank = [[Rank::X]] instead of | rank = X.
  • I'm not sure I understand what the problem with Template:Infobox/Jutsu is. All its parameters seem valid so I gather that it isn't a technical problem preventing its implementation. The Soul Eater example you referred to has a usable output, but I have no idea how [dis]similar the two series' ability systems are.
~SnapperTo 19:48, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
That certainly makes Category:Jutsu's purpose clearer, and your other explanation was much more accessible.
If using broad generalizations is such a problematic User input, wouldn't it be simplest to just list all applicable users instead? It accounts for those instances where the generalization is wrong; Yoshino Nara, a member of the Nara clan, has never even been suggested to be capable of using the Shadow Imitation Technique. The only time where a generalization would be appropriate is in those cases where every character can use a jutsu.
Assuming that is actually simpler, that just leaves the issue of how to deal with user differences between medias. Some fancy code that excludes everything between ( and )?
Many of the other outstanding jutsu details are limited to one of a few choices. To give a list of those:
  • Type=Nin/Gen/Tai/Sen/Fūin/Juin/Kekkei genkai
  • Rank=S/A/B/C/D/E/No/Unknown
  • Kinjutsu=yes/no
  • Hiden=yes/no
  • Uses kekkei genkai=yes/no
  • Uses senjutsu=yes/no
  • Offensive=yes/no
  • Defensive=yes/no
  • Supplementary=yes/no
  • Short range=yes/no
  • Mid range=yes/no
  • Long range=yes/no
With the yes/no fields a drop-down, color-coded table might be more ascetically pleasing:
Details
Kinjutsu
Senjutsu
Hiden
Kekkei genkai
Offensive
Defensive
Supplementary
Short range (0-5m)
Mid range (5-10m)
Long range (10+m)


I haven't the foggiest idea how practical that would be to code (transclude a template in another template?), but I can now say I've spent an hour pasting something together that was beyond my understanding. ~SnapperTo 00:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

SVG thumbnail problems

I was wondering if you could answer a question about SVG files. I've uploaded a few of them in the past few days, but while inserting them into articles, I notices they didn't load properly (or at all) as thumbnails. Do you know if this is normal or if it's some problem with my browser or computer. Thanks in advance. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 23:17, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your trouble. On a related note, are there any other SVG images needed? I know there are plenty of title icons still needed, but I really don't know what to make for them. Kekkei Genkai like Ice Release and Shikotsumyaku don't really have a symbol...
Do you have any suggestions for these or should I just leave them without an icon? --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 09:52, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
A while ago, you said symbols for the different chakra natures might be useful. Could we use icons like these? The first row shows the kanji for the elements, the second row are simple icons using these kanji and the third row have icons with seal script kanji.
On a related note, shouldn't Image:Hyuga branch cursed seal.jpg be replaced with an svg file? and if yes, should it be one or two files? --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 09:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
I figured you'd like the second row best. If there's anything you want changed about it, just tell me. I rather like making these svg files ^^
I uploaded the nature icons and the new images of the Hyūga Cursed Seal, all svg files of course. I also uploaded svg versions of Orochimaru's Cursed Seals. At least those I could find in the manga. I wonder why Kishimoto never showed Kidōmaru's or Jirōbō's Cursed Seals...
Any way, you can find them all on my user page for quick reference. I appreciate all feedback and comments. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 01:14, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Main Page

Dantman may I get your opinion on this discussion please. Here SuperN 17:15, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

insert image

i was wondering how to insert an image of mine for a jutsu. for chibaku tensei. By --JohnnyLightning 19:25, 13 March 2009 (UTC)JohnnyLightning 3/13/09

Alright

So they got annoying basically. Were they're like arguments like "I'm a Chuunin and your a Genin."?--Inferuno Ryuu 13:42, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Ahh, I see now. Thank you for clearing that up.--Inferuno Ryuu 14:01, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk Page

Please read the article here[1]. Deleting is allowed but not prefered. --SuperN 14:01, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Help!

I have this deletion notice on my user page and I don't know what to do about it. It says not to delete so I didn't but I don't know why it was put up there in the first place. Please help me...TheSapphireDragon

Problem reports

It seems you have a problem with people reporting problems for little things. If I were you, I'd but a notice that if people don't like the content they see on a page, they can put a dispute resolution on the talk page.--Iner22 00:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


By the way, if you want to disable the automatic messaging system, go to MediaWiki:Welcome-user and edit it to show @disabled.--Iner22 00:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Rasenshuriken

I'm at odds with Cooltamerboy about whether or not Rasenshuriken qualifies as Senjutsu or not. I wanted to know what you thought it should be listed as (being the wikia admin and all). I stated my reasons when I edited the page and I've tried leaving comments about the issue on his talk page to avoid an epic revert war. Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated!

P.S. Sorry about the debate on I started on Hinata's talk page. It really wasn't an appropriate thing to do. I'll try to keep that off the wikia and in a forum where it belongs. --mini9tailedfox 07:41, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Alright then thanks Dantman. Hopefully this can be resovled fairly quickly. --mini9tailedfox 20:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Image warnings

Ok, will do. Jacce 17:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

re: MediaWiki:Welcome-user-page

Sorry, I saw the deleat tag and acted on instinct. Jacce 18:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Image warnings

Thank you :] Hakinu 21:22, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

editing

I've confirmed my e-mail but that doesn't changed a bit, I'll just wait for 4 days and start editing where i'm already allowed :) Sanyu

Thank you~

Thank you for clearing up about the Hyūga last name. Maybe you should add that information in so people can understand more about his name?

--TheSapphireDragon

Help

Do you want help in things like what you said to Jacce and TheUltimate3? Cooltamerboy 05:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC).

Roydon Namikaze

I wonder why you Deleted my talk page as i took about 15 minutes to do it, next minute, deleted, here is the message i got... 11:08, 22 March 2009 Dantman (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:Roydon Namikaze" ‎ (content was: 'Hello, i am the son of the Fourth Hokage Minato Namikaze (not really) and brother of Naruto Uzumaki, i like to read naruto stuff and im ve...' (and the only contributor was 'Roydon Namikaze')) Roydon Namikaze 11:39, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Archiving

How can I archiving my talk page? Jacce 16:23, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Copyright infringement

Naraa uploaded this picture: Image:Kirisame.jpg, and when I warned him about the Leaf Ninja quality (+ the lack of license and fair use rationale), I see that you have not only warned him earlier about breaking Leaf Ninja's copyright, but even permablocked him. I suppose this blocking was removed later, but I don't think it should have, since it seems he didn't learn from the previous blocking. Hakinu 21:20, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


Vandalism

How do you feel about Vandalism?

gohanRULEZ 09:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Help!

Thanks for what your said, but do you want me to help you in anything. Write on my talkpage as fast as you can please. Cooltamerboy 16:37, 26 March 2009 (UTC).

SORRY

By the way, may you allow me to change the birthdate of Sai.122.52.151.31 04:38, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

HI

I never GIVE YOU SOME MESSAGES....maybe someone is using my account..because many of my friends know this account.SAI_ROOT

Problem reports

  Problem reports
Extension ProblemReports not enabled on this wiki

Hi there, did you know that some of the users of this wiki have reported some problems? You can view them at Special:ProblemReports. Its a great system for users to mark pages with various types of problems to bring them to the attention of admins (like you). Often they are about the subject of the wiki, and only someone from the wiki can make the knowledgeable decision on how to fix the page.

Its a fairly simple system to use. You can click the magnify glass icon to show the reported problem for each ticket. The icons on the right change the status of the report. The green check mark icon is for "Fixed", you use this if you read the report, and changed something on the page to fix the reported problem, (or deleted it, if its a vandal/spam report), or anything that "Fixes" the problem. The red X icon is for "closed", this is for reports that are false/jokes, or things that are not really a problem. The yellow triangle will mark a report for need help by Wikia Staff, it is used when there is something wrong with the wiki that you cannot fix here with editing pages, such as menus not working, or skin problems, or anything beyond your control. Use it sparingly, as there are many wikis, and our time is limited, but dont be afraid to use it either, we dont want you to have a broken wiki for too long. The last icon is for returning a report back to an open or 'Pending' state if you accidentally used one of the first 3 icons.

If you are using the Monaco skin, there is a ProblemReport widget you can add to your sidebar, so you can see as soon as problems are reported. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask on my talk page, I'll be glad to help you help your wiki. --Uberfuzzy@Wikia 22:36, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, I need some help. You see, for some reason I was blocked from a wikia called the Bulbapedia, a pokemon wiki. I never did anything to or on that wiki, so why am I blocked? Is there a way to undo this block, or bypass it? And why was I blocked? If it helps, it said something about a 403 code or something. Please help me.--Kagimizu 00:56, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Relationships

Hi Dantman! I had a fabulous idea, I sort of got it from the Harry Potter wiki. Since the Naruto series main topic is about bonds, shouldn't their be something about relations with great allies and friends on the characters page? I think that on character pages, we should start a new section for Relationships with others, whether enemies or foes. Please tell me what you think about my idea on my discussion page! --NejiByakugan360 01:22, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Images

Do these images have all of the copyright information and fair use needed? Image:Naruto_Manga_392_page_07.png Image:Naruto Manga 391 page 01.png--~Super Novice-Talk to Me~ 04:35, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Title icons

Ehm... what happened to the title icons?

On a related note, would it be possible to create title icons for the various chakra natures and kekkei genkai? and possible for the different jutsu types as well? --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 22:12, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I kind of like icons though... Can we put icons in infoboxes? Like Wikipedia does with flags sometimes? --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 00:06, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Will that take long to implement? Is there any way I can help? --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 00:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

RE: Images

I'm so terribly sorry! I don't have any intention to vandalize Narutopedia at all, please believe me. I will stop uploading pictures if necessary, but there is one thing i am having a problem with. How do i put a fair use of rationale on my pictures? --NejiByakugan360 14:29, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Fair Rationale Quality

I feel a bit picky, and can't make myself tell someone that the fair rationale they made contains too little information. Therefore, I'd like some guidelines for what quality the rationale should have, (How close you should get to the source, for example: [[Naruto]] / [[Naruto Series|Naruto]]/A Naruto Episode/Naruto Series Episode 23) and what I should do if it does not hold that standard.


Personally, I find the rationale rather useless if it only says eg.:


| Source = Naruto Anime.

| Portion = Picture from a Scene.

Thank you in advance, Hakinu 15:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Two Questions

Hiya Dantman! I was wondering, can i delete the warnings from my talk page after i finished editing the pictures?

How are we going to add a technique form to every page. I've already started. Any suggestions that i should do while editing?

Again, I'm sorry for accidentally vandalizing the wiki because of not putting Fair Rationale tags. Please Respond on my User Talk Page.

--NejiByakugan360 19:22, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

SuperN

Hey, SuperN keeps changing and undoing my changes to Land of the Whirlpool. I do have relevant sources (Over 5) confirming the details I've added but he still keeps undoing it. Do you have any idea on how to stop him? I've tried to talk to him but he ignored my UserTalks.XPaperxHeartx 04:35, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

New infoboxes

Ok, But when you done let me now about it Lidor

RE: Kiba Inuzuka

Well... first of all, i stoped talking to Snapper because everything i said, he has another thing to said... so it would be a story with no end; so finally i get tired of arguing with him... second of all... i didn't talk to you neither because if you revert too what i did to what snapper did, well, i though you would be on his side... and first of all... it's ok for him to revert what i did but it's not ok if i do it, well, that's nice of you.

I try to do my best with Kiba's page for both of us like it, but he just didn't care and revert everything i did, so i decide to do the same...!

I talked to Jacce because i think that he could be someone neutral and take a right and partial decision!!!

I have arguments!!!And i have proved them!!! If you don't like them is a different story... or may be you don't understand because i'm not american or english and even so, i try to talk to you in english and try to complete kiba's page! May be that's why i made mistakes or you don't understand me (sorry about that, really).

Well, hope me can talk soon in a reasonable and peaceful way, like i said to everyone, i dont want to bother somebody.

--Kiba91 03:27, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


I think you and Snapper aren't everyone! And well, you two against me... mmmm, if you prefer, we can go with each user of this wikia and ask them if they can see the two versions and if they like your version or mine... that's fine with me... or i don't know, you tell me...

--Kiba91 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, i'll go to Kiba's talk page but how can i show my version and Snapper version at the same time for others users can decide?

--Kiba91 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Where is history tab? How can i do what you just tell me? Sorry :S --Kiba91 (talk) 22:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

LinYinyang

Y IS MY PAGE NOT WORKING? IT SAYS USERPAGE ABUSE. I'M NOT DOING THAT. I'm just showing my creativity of my naruto character, but u won't let me. Plez let me do it and make it smaller. PWEZ. v.v —This unsigned comment was made by LinYinyang (talkcontribs) on 20:41, April 1, 2009.

Banning

Please ban this IP for vandalising several pages. 88.238.73.55 ~Super Novice-Talk to Me~ 17:08, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

DantMAn....the dude changed his IP.....he mite keep doin this....If it helps there's a software called HotSpot Shield that changes the IP address.....just a suggestion, but isn't it possible to give only subscribed users editing privilages???Just a thought....AlienGamer-Talk

Dantman can you please block this IP 74.232.51.209, look at my talk page history for why. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 01:47, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

For some reason I can't protect pages.

Uh...yeah. I try to protect ones that are in constant Revert Wars...nothing happens. Seeing that Kiba guy comment made me remember that was a problem. So...bug perhaps?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 22:10, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I thought it was odd that the Infoboxes were being used

I just thought they were ready when I woke up in the morning. A bunch of jutsus have been edited. I'll get to it shortly but it may take a while. To make it easier I would follow Lidor's contributions. I know he did quite a few.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 20:04, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Delete and block

Dantman can you please delete this page and block the IP who made it. Rokusuke ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 05:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Dantman can you block this IP for vandalisum on Sakura's page. 71.236.133.224 ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 16:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Don't worry, I took care of it. Jacce | Talk 16:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Dantman can you undo everything this IP has done please. 69.118.56.188 ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 23:13, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Group Membership

Dantman what are the group membership rights and thier abilities for this wiki? Within the higher ranked individuals do certain people have the power to do things others can't? I'm just trying to gain an understanding for who can do what etc. Thank you for any information you can give me. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 05:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Jutsu Infoboxes

Yeah, I want to help contribute to those new jutsu infoboxes, but I did some and they got reverted back so, I figured theres something wrong im doing apparently, so what can I do to help? where do I get all the info? AMTNinja (talk) 20:30, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

So, If I see them around should I dispose of them for the interim? AMTNinja (talk) 23:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. - Userpages

After reading you message on GohanRULEZ's page, I was shocked. I am so sorry for creating so much trouble on Narutopedia, like the image deletions, userpages and other stuff. Also, after reading your message, I have edited my user page to be very simple, not revealing any personal info (aside's from being Male and blood status). Please tell me if it is o.k., and that my user page is not breaking any rules! Sorry, truly --NejiByakugan360 (talk) 02:41, 5 April 2009 (UTC) Please respond on my discussion page.

My images

People uploaded Tayuya, Sakon & Ukon Cursed Seals. How come I can't upload Jirobo and Kidomaru?????

All images were at same quality!


Bakuganbattles (talk) 01:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Inserting Images

I can't insert images. Its keep on saying 'specify file name'. What does that mean?


Bakuganbattles (talk) 01:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Image Tagging

I'm just to make you aware Dantman that I've recently done a lot of image tagging so you can do the next proper step with them. You can find a list by looking at my contribution for today. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 03:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Warning

I'm sorry, but WHAT ? The images that you are currently checking and warning me about have been uploaded before you told me aabout the need for a fair use rationalte. The recent pictures I have uploaded are perfectly fine. - Emperor of Water (talk) 10:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Picture bank

Is there some kind of a picture bank where I can see if I find a picture that is already uploaded? If not, wouldn't that be a good idea to make? Hakinu 14:11, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't even realize that was it's purpose. My bad, I can start tagging the pictures I upload now if that is neccessary (is it?). Anyhow, how do I find a picture by using the image tags? Hakinu 17:47, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Mangekyō Sharingan images

TheUltimate3 and I were discussing what images to use on the Mangekyō Sharingan article and I was wondering if you could help us. In the case of simple images such as the different Mangekyō Sharingan what images would be preferred? Fair use images from the manga and anime or svg images? --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 14:19, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

RE: Clan categories

Oh I'm so sorry, it's just that I saw teh special page's link yesturday and been working on the Wiki through that. When I can to the category section I just saw the empty ones and started putting pages in it. Sorry. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 17:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Main Page

Dantman to make sure you're aware but there is a template error on the Main Page. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 17:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Nin-dogs

Ah, thanks (@The picture bank question). Another thing: If you push 'Dog' in Haimaru Sankyodai's, Kuromaru's and Akamaru's infoboxes, you come to the page on Ninken. You also get redirected there if you push 'Nin-dog' under classification. That page states that it's about the eight summon dogs Kakashi can summon, and not about the other dogs. My tired brain can't think of a way of correcting it so the other nin-dogs get included to the text. Maybe the page should be expanded, and maybe renamed? I don't feel I should be the one to take such decisions, since I'm a mere beginner.... Hakinu (talk) 18:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


Quotes:Character Name

Dantman can you please tell me if where i can find or have access to the Quotes:Character Name? so that I can help you and the team regarding about the character's quotes. Thanks Tsujiraoro07

Sysop

I noticed you made me into a sysop. I appreciate the trust you have in me. I'll do my best to live up to it. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 16:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

*/Sysops?/*

Dantman what is this SYSOPS anyway? And how can I have an access with this also? Tsujiraoro07

Help...

Dantman, I believe this comment on my talkpage goes against some rule Here ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 00:35, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Archiving for my talk page please

They have been there for many days. I need you help, please. Theank you, Mr. Dantman. Dekoshu talk contrib 06:20, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


It's in Dragonball.wikia.com., you click on my name, and you can archive. I don't know how. Dekoshu talk contrib 06:24, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you and I'll know who to rely on if it ever gets out of hand.Dekoshu talk contrib 06:29, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


Thank you very much, Mr. Dantman. Dekoshu talk contrib 06:31, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded images.

Dantman, I believe someone should watch the images that Guren7575757 is uploading as most, if not all are under a false copyright. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 16:38, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Kessie

After a long list of image warnings, you gave Kessie a reminder to look at the image policy. This happened on march 31st, April 3rd and 4th, but yet again Kessie has uploaded an image without fair use rationale or license information. God, they never learn, do they? <_____________<' Maybe it's time to give the uploader a warning, or maybe even a banishment. Also, if it's possible, the fair use form should really be included in the uploading client... Hakinu (talk) 23:46, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Pain page

Just though i'd give you the head's up that i'm about to launch the main part of the newly-refurbished 6 paths page. i still have the 7 individual pages to do, but i've finished the main-jutsu part. --Newthx2u (talk) 04:44, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Sysop

Thanks a lot Dantman. I appreciate your putting faith in me after only a few months of activity. Blocking and page protection is too contentious for my liking, but I should have a much easier time when I decide to tackle images. Speaking of, does this wiki have any orphaned image policy, or are images deleted at one's discretion? ~SnapperTo 18:46, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll skip images that might prove useful with proper licensing and anything that looks historical. ~SnapperTo 22:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

MINATO

I was hoping I wouldn't have to bother you with this, and that he would listen to a warning. But no. Three days after MINATO, he has started uploading new pictures. These pictures does have copyright information, but not the fair use rationale. It seems my warnings has no effect. Miss powerless (talk) 00:33, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Heehee. Sorry about that. Hakinu (talk) 22:50, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: WikiText source style

I understand what you mean, but please don't delete my contribution re: Quotes in the Nagato page. It took me a while to find proof for my contribution.--Ethelion 05:46, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: WikiText source style 2

Does that mean I'm not allowed to add quotations even though they're true (even though I have proof of where I found them)?--Ethelion (talk) 06:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:RollBack

Thanx...It'll Help A lot... AlienGamer User talk:AlienGamer|Talk]]

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