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  • I don't think this has ever been discussed. Both are going all out. Itachi is in his prime but Gaara is not.

    Knowledge: not much for gaara, manga for itachi

    Location: A Desert

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    • You just gave Gaara the desert, he automatically gets so much more options to win with that. Itachi may be able to win 6 out of 10 battles, but in Gaaras case with the desert I give Gaara 6 out of 10 battles.

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    • Gaara can't win if Itachi's arsenal is completely unrestricted.

      Gaara can summon the whole desert on him if he wants, none of that is harming Itachi through Yata.

      Based on the hype, The totsuka blade lacks a physical form/ethereal. It should be able to penetrate through gaara's sand shield, and gaara isn't dodging it either when it does penetrate.

      Gaara would reduce the chance of any eye contact to as close to zero as he can, which means he is using his full sand sphere, and would try to make an eye that can watch Itachi from where he thinks Itachi won't be able to find it. But it doesn't matter, because Itachi doesn't need any genjutsu to defeat him.

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    • I’m not going to claim that Gaara beats Itachi or anything, but let me remind you that Gaara countered amaterasu with his sand and also countered Susanoo with his sand. Gaara used the sand to pull Madara out of his Susanoo, which would work on Itachi as well.So Gaara has counter for 2/3 of Itachi’s abilities. Tsukuyomi is up to debate.

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    • Gaara got STOMPED by a Susanoo clone. Dont try to make it seem like he stood toe to toe with it. Gaara got speedblitzed by a Pre-Shippuden Sasuke.

      What feats has he shown that his speed increased? Itachi has comparable speed to a Sasuke who is believed to be faster than his part 1 counterpart the same counterpart that blitzed Gaara in part 1 so how does Gaara not get blitzed(remember his defensive skill derives from his mothers will independently of his own so how does it become more powerful....the answer is it did not become more powerful over the time skip) thus Itachi blitzes. Gaara doesnt fight by sitting inside his sand bubble. Hes done it one or two times. More often then not hes outside of it floating on his sand. And its not hard to point at someone. Especially when itachi far outclasses gaara in intelligence. Gaara would be fighting a clone while Itachi is behind gaara. And all he would do is point at him and the fights over. Gaara has never been shown to be one to be especially resistant to genjutsu. Let alone of someones on itachis level. Orochimaru is far far ahead of gaara and yet he has little genjutsu resistance at all. Exact same goes for gaara. Gaara has to infuse his chakra into sand to control it, he cant just control sand. You do realize what the sharingan does right? It sees chakra, Gaara or his sand doesnt have near enough of a speed advantage to immobilize itachi in a 1v1 fight without ambushing him. Gaara has never immobilized someone in a 1v1 fight like that. gaara doesnt instantly control everything, his chakra has to be infused into it. Itachi would easily see the sand and move. If gaara could imprison people so easily then he wouldve imprisoned sasuke when they fought as gaara didnt want to kill sasuke. Imprisoning and blocking are 2 completely different things. You guys do realize that the only reason Gaara's sand was able to work on Madara's Susano'o was because the Tsuchikage lightened it and made it easier for it to be placed underneath his feet right? can't itachi materialize into crows, fly up to gaara then susanoo Sword of Totsuka him? Sand is irreverent because Totsuka is not only a spiritual sword but a physical sword that seals people. Of course, not right off the bat. Garra is one the slowest characters in naruto if you can break through his defenses he is mediocre at best. Pre-shippuden Saskue blitzed him fairly easy and IIRC Itachi had no trouble keeping up with Saskue and Kakashi speed and in Shippuden as Edo he was able to ward of attacks from both Killer Bee and Naruto. IIRC the only reason Gaara was able to pull Madara out of his Susanoo was help from the Tsuchikage. Itachi isnt fodder trash. I don't think Gaara will ever stop itachi from closing that distance. Hes never immobilized someone in a 1v1 fight without catching them off guard. And itachi is far too intelligent to be caught off guard by someone like gaara. Itachi not being able to hurt Gaara with Susanoo is false because Madara easily handle garra with his a swing of his sword and Garra was not even able to defend himself. Garra's lone sand is not enough to stop Itachi's Susanoo because when have two examples where Garra's sand cant even damage a skeletal Susanoo or How gaara's sand ws easily brushed off by Madara's imperfect Susanoo. Gaara's best chance of survial is to pray that Itachi runs out of gas and dies because of his illness. Itachi could simply turn into crows, fly up in the air. Reform and point at gaara, and the fight is over. am thinking about Yata Mirror. It has all nature transformations so it can change its characteristics to block any attack, right?

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    • Itachi’s Susanoo is the armoured version at best, so it doesn’t have legs. Gaara already proved that he can use the sand from the Susanoo’s user feets to drag him out of it. So why are we even discussing this aspect? This is so much more likely considering the fact that OP specified that the battle takes this in a desert.

      Also Gaara’s sand countered amaterasu. So let’s not get into Gaara’s speed improvements... The raikage also dodged amaterasu, so having speed reaction similar to the Raiakge’s is no small feat, mind you.

      I didn’t claim that Gaara wins (altough he could) i just pointed out some flaws in Itachi’s abilities considering the circumstances...

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    • Besides, I wonder if Itachi's genjutsu would work on Gaara if he uses it on Gaara's Third Eye. Technically, the Third Eye is directly linked to Gaara's optic nerve, so there's a chance that he can be affected by genjutsu cast on this eye.

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    • Gaara wins...Categorizing them at their Prime, I shall include Shukaku as part of Gaara's arsenal, and the Magnet Release.

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    • the only reason Gaara was able to pull Madara out of his Susanoo was help from the Tsuchikage. Also I don't think Gaara in his prime include s Shukaku. Also, Izanami? Also, I edited the description a little bit so it is not seriously stacked in Gaara's favor. Gaara is NOT in his prime but Itachi is.

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    • Gaara should win

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    • LaughingLyon wrote: Gaara should win

      Please provide reasons. Why do you think Gaara will win? Any explanation as to why?

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    • HeroOfSacrifice wrote:

      LaughingLyon wrote: Gaara should win

      Please provide reasons. Why do you think Gaara will win? Any explanation as to why?


      Amaterasu is a nonfactor here

      Gaara’s sand was able to react to Fused Momoshiki which means nothing Itachi tries Taijutsu wise is working. In fact Itachi getting close at all is a bad idea.

      Clone feints won’t work due to Gaara’s automatic defense

      Susanoo is a double edged sword that drains Itachi significantly and Gaara can counter it via flight and stonewalling Yasaka Beads. Not to mention Itachi being Stationary in this environment means he can be sunk into the sand at any time.

      Ephemeral isn’t working on any Kage class opponent


      Gaara is a long ranged fighter so Tsykuyomi is a uphill battle

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    • Itachi doesn't need Tsukuyomi to beat Gaara, his normal Genjutsu's are already sufficient. He just needs to look at the third eye one time, or gaara himselves eyes one time.

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    • Itachi wins. No doubt.

      I can't remember a single time Itachi struggled with a fight other than in his reanimation phase, and testing Sasuke's power. The closest thing to him struggling was when Jiraiya got him trapped in the toad and Itachi was like "lol, nah you ain't s**t" and dipped outta there.

      Don't forget that the show revolves around the power (and only that) of the Uchiha. If there was no Uchiha, there would be no Naruto. Literally anyone who is part of the Uchiha is hard to battle with. Do I need to go over of how powerful Madara himself was? Obito?(but to be fair, its hard to tell if he alone was pretty good because he did have Zetsu on his side) The next Uchiha on the list is Itachi.

      Gaara on the other hand has struggled many times. From Genin to Jonin, there have been a many characters that got close to Gaara before 1.) they were stopped by someone else or 2.) they decided not to FINISH HIM. He also had the one-tail and the sand, but that's part of his power so I'm not gonna use it against him.

      Btw, Itachi joined the ANBU when he was 11. Became ANBU Captain at 13.

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    • HeroOfSacrifice wrote: the only reason Gaara was able to pull Madara out of his Susanoo was help from the Tsuchikage.I edited the description a little bit so it is not seriously stacked in Gaara's favor. Gaara is NOT in his prime but Itachi is.

      So are you saying he can't eject a susanoo user using his sand? And it's kinda still stacked in Gaara's favour with the desert and full knowledge on Itachi for Gaara. The only way gaara can lose is if he's careless to look at Itachi's eyes to fall prey for Tsukuyomi or any genjutsu for that matter...just like how the raikage was careless.. Itachi loses 8/10

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    • lyon made a great point, that Gaara's defense reacted to fused Momoshiki. and to just be clearl its absolute delusional to believe that itachi is anywhere near as powerful as fused momoshiki

      itachi doesn't have anything that could penetrate prime Gaara's sand in the end the fight as this post puts it would come down solely to stamina.

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    • It's not Prime Gaara. Also I edited the description. Gaara does not have much knowledge about Itachi but Itachi has manga knowledge on Gaara.

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    • HeroOfSacrifice wrote: It's not Prime Gaara. Also I edited the description. Gaara does not have much knowledge about Itachi but Itachi has manga knowledge on Gaara.

      Oh so you realised Gaara would win, so now changed it ok...

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    • Kyle Ethan wrote:

      HeroOfSacrifice wrote: It's not Prime Gaara. Also I edited the description. Gaara does not have much knowledge about Itachi but Itachi has manga knowledge on Gaara.

      Oh so you realised Gaara would win, so now changed it ok...

      Seriously? Gaara fanboy. I can tell you want it to be stacked in Gaara's favour. No problem man, make your own thread and world where Gaara is Hashirama level.

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    • HeroOfSacrifice wrote:

      Kyle Ethan wrote:

      HeroOfSacrifice wrote: It's not Prime Gaara. Also I edited the description. Gaara does not have much knowledge about Itachi but Itachi has manga knowledge on Gaara.

      Oh so you realised Gaara would win, so now changed it ok...

      Seriously? Gaara fanboy. I can tell you want it to be stacked in Gaara's favour. No problem man, make your own thread and world where Gaara is Hashirama level.

      Says the Itachi fanboy, who changes the thread...what irony.

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    • If Gaara has no knowledge on Itachi, then he gets stomped. Itachi's use of Sharingan is quite troublesome if one's not prepared for it and with prior knowledge on Gaara's abilities, Itachi can easily devise a strategy that would help him win the fight despite being in a disadvantage when it comes to his chakra reserves.

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    • @HeroOfSacrifice @Kyle Ethan Guys, no name-calling

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    • Itachi fanboy? C'mon, man. How childish could you be? It's very clear that you want it to be stacked in Gaara's favour. He already has a WHOLE desert.

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    • Gaara is a horrible matchup for Itachi. He wins.

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    • No version of Gaara can defeat Itachi.

      His sand shield is completely irrelevant because totsuka blade is basically a ghost sword. It's going through his shield, and when it does Gaara won't see it coming because Itachi is faster and smarter than he is being given credit for.

      Itachi still has an incredible actions per second magnitude . In the time it took for him to sheath shurikens, he already weaved the signs for three separate techniques: a water technique, a shadow clone technique, and a substitution technique. Itachi's technique speed is still something that keeps him in the game against many top tier shinobi, so factor in yata and totsuka hax and there is nothing gaara can do.

      This fight ends before it begins. The totsuka blade was so fast that orochimaru nor nagato could mentally process it. Think about that. The optic nerves in their eyes didn't have enough time to communicate to their brains that there was a giant blade speeding toward them. Nagato couldn't take any mental or physical action to block/evade the blade despite having a wide arsenal of techniques at his behest that could have potentially done it.

      So, even in the desert, Itachi can simply genjutsu the eye as people have already stated. alternatively, all he has to do is wait until gaara forms his sand shell. when Gaara sends a tsunami of sand at him, Gaara will still be blinded by his own sand, third eye or not. Gaara is still kind of a stationary fighter... so itachi just has to mark his position with the sharingan then launch the blade through all the sand, and Gaara is one shotted.


      Itachi also has high mobility and isn't just gonna stand there wasting his chakra. Yata mirror stops any of the sand attacks anyway lol.

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    • @CombatIQmatters

      I agree Gaara loses this particular match up, but a prime version of Gaara (that is post-war adult Gaara) with moderate knowledge on his opponent is more than a handful for someone like Itachi, especially if the battle takes place in a goddamn desert. To fighters like Tobirama, Kisame and Gaara, environment is a big part, so if you pit any of them in favorable conditions, chances are they'll win unless they're dealing with a slippery fighter or a demi God.

      Totsuka Blade feats you cited are dubious at best since 1) The feat of it being ethereal is not confirmed in the manga and only so far stands as a databook feat, which are riddled with inconsistencies. 2) The two times we saw it in action, it was against a zombie Nagato and Orochimaru in his snake form, which were both weakened versions of the two. But even if we assume the blade moves fast, we've seen instances of Gaara keeping up (even if barely) with shinobi and jutsu which were just as fast if not faster. Case in point, fused Momoshiki whose speed was on par with So6P Naruto. Plus, Itachi's Susanoo cannot be stronger than Madara's Susanoo, whom Gaara briefly contained using his Multi Desert seal. And as many have mentioned, he can easily use the sand at Itachi's feet to remove him from his Susanoo defense and therefore bypass his Yata Mirror entirely, if the need arises.

      Sure, Itachi is smart and it will not be easy to pin him down, but Gaara is a master strategist himself too. If we consider the gigantic gap in chakra between the two, the environmental advantage and have Gaara be in his prime, he'll win most of the times.

      With these restrictions though, Itachi has the potential to one-shot Gaara with relative ease.

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    • Vladosaurus wrote: I’m not going to claim that Gaara beats Itachi or anything, but let me remind you that Gaara countered amaterasu with his sand and also countered Susanoo with his sand. Gaara used the sand to pull Madara out of his Susanoo, which would work on Itachi as well.So Gaara has counter for 2/3 of Itachi’s abilities. Tsukuyomi is up to debate.

      Though, do we know actually what happened? Like, Gaara's sands were still on fire, so I guess he let out the grains of the ones that were on Amaterasu into the air, a little like Naruto using his Chakra cloak. What would happen if the Amaterasu was shooted in the style Itachi used with Sasuke, or what would happen if Sasuke tried to manipulate the fire on Gaara's sand?

      The susanoo feat though, was accomplished by the help of Ohnoki I think. And Madara standing on the sand was also a thing.

      Mr. Grave wrote: @CombatIQmatters

      I agree Gaara loses this particular match up, but a prime version of Gaara (that is post-war adult Gaara) with moderate knowledge on his opponent is more than a handful for someone like Itachi, especially if the battle takes place in a goddamn desert. To fighters like Tobirama, Kisame and Gaara, environment is a big part, so if you pit any of them in favorable conditions, chances are they'll win unless they're dealing with a slippery fighter or a demi God.

      I take that different strategies would be taken in different situations, especially with someone like Itachim. Like the fact that Gaara won't be instantly taken by Itachi's genjutsu just like every other character he fought is a thing and the fact that Gaara really has a weird tendency to look into people's eyes makes it kind of a hilarious match up.

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    • The only reason Gaara pulled Madara out of his Susano'o is that Onoki played a heavy contribution. Onoki lightened Gaara's sand. Also, Gaara is kinda smart.

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    • 1) Exhibit A Chapter 392 pg 10, mirror clearly expands in height and width to deflect snakes. 2) Exhibit B, Take a careful look at Chapter 393 pg 8. I'm looking at the Viz scans, both in color and in black and white, and you can clearly see the mirror expanded to cover the left side of Susano'o. Not only that it expanded to cover susano'os head, and is even reaching as far as to cover the back of susano'o, clear evidence that the mirror adapts.

      3) Exhibit C. Take a careful look at Chapter 393 pg 5-6. The mirror clearly expands in height to counter an upward thrown paper bomb thrown at susano'o. On that same page, you can clearly see the SFX :whoosh, which means rapid movement through the air. That is concrete physical evidence that the mirror adapts, and the SFX proves that the mirror was decreasing in size back to normal. Undeniable evidence.


      4) Finally, Exhibit D, Chapter 393 pg 9. The Yata mirror is not only covering the front, but has expanded to cover the WHOLE LEFT SIDE of Susano'o! You have to remember that the mirror doesn't have a physical form and can change any of it's properties.

      The Yata Mirror downplay is something I anticipate in threads like these so I copied and pasted my usual counterarguments. Gaara tries to pull itachi out? great, mirror adapts and stops the sand from touching him. Sand pyramid? mirror repels the crushing force. Itachi's susano'o is objectively stronger than Madara's because he has a Yata Mirror while Madara doesn't.


      The official manga translation on Chapter 392 pg 14 CLEARLY states the Totsuka blade does not have a physical form. The blade can cut through and pierce through anything and due to it's ethereal properties, and anyone the tip pierces through is sealed away. The only way to deal with the blade is to dodge, except the thrusting speed is incredible.

      Orochimaru in the official translation very clearly says "eh?" as the blade pierces through him. That is the phrase someone uses when they don't know what just hit them. The blade literally moved so fast that optic nerves could not process the visual information in the time it took for it to pierce through him. Lol, ITachi was the on one on his death bed. Nothing says orochimaru was weakened, he was literally using his most powerful snake technique...

      Nagato was also in the best condition he ever was. Edo Tensei, improved mobility, and not to mention he was jacked up on Gyuki chakra. So no excuses. If the blade wasn't fast, he would have time to attempt the preta path, attempt subsitution, attempt a summoning technique, anything that could potentially impede the blade's path, deflect it, etc. The fact he couldn't in his healthiest condition proves the blade is fast, and Nagato objectively has one of the best reflexes and processing speeds in the manga. He isn't V2 Ayy, sure, but he literally had to fight using 6 different bodies in 6 different locations in Konoha, and it takes good processing speed to do such effective multitasking.


      The fight against Gaara literally ends within the first few seconds of the match. Itachi has already shown he is smart enough to take advantage of line of sight blockers when launching the blade, as he used the smokescreen from chibaku tensei to launch the blade at nagato, reducing the time and space Nagato had to react to it. Gaara opens with a sand tsunami in the desert... Itachi's susano'o forms in fractions of the second. The blade isn't gonna be easy to see because Gaara can't see through his own sand. The blade pierces through, and if Gaara is lucky, his gourd sand feats as an adult might just be quick enough to react to the blade, except the blade just pierces through it anyways. Gaara won't see it coming, because he is blinded by his own sand, the blade is incredibly fast, and I highly doubt Gaara has better reflexes than Orochimaru and Prime Edo Gyuki chakra boosted Nagato. Restrict the totsuka blade to make this a fair fight, and also restrict the yata mirror too while you are at it, because right now even Adult Gaara gets mercilessly stomped.

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