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  • It has been purposely mentioned that he had Senju lineage and blood multiple times by BZ, Obito and I believe Kabuto. Outside of Madara only Nagato could use both Rinnegan, and Madara specifically chose Nagato as the new host since he was "the perfect host". If It could be any Uzumaki, then he had many options besides Nagato. Nagato's mother has Red hair is very likely where he gets his Uzumaki blood from while his father has black hair and black eyes and that is most likely where his Senju blood comes. Nagato seems to be like Tsunade and Nawaki and have both Senju and Uzumaki in him, making his chakra, blood and body more suited to the Rinnegan than somebody is just an Uzumaki. Thoughts would be appreciated

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    • All Uzumaki are VERY distantly related to the Senju. It was Kishimoto's cop-out to make Naruto relevant and tie into the Senju-Uchiha feud. Nagao is primarly an Uzumaki, though.

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    • Yes, I knew that. But only Nagato has been said to be from the Senju bloodline itself. In Naruto's case Obito only compared Sasuke to Madara(Uchiha) and Naruto to Hashirama(Senju). It was stressed that Nagato himself was the perfect host and he was chosen by Madara. If it could of been any Uzumaki then he could have chosen Kushina, or even waited a bit longer and got Karin or any of the other ones out there. I speculate Madara knew Nagato had Uzumaki mother and Senju father and that makes for the perfect host for the Rinnegan outside of its actual owner. Speculationa aside though, I wonder why only Nagato was said to be from the Senju bloodline etc while Naruto and others were not.

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    • FlatZone wrote: I wonder why only Nagato was said to be from the Senju bloodline etc while Naruto and others were not.

      Given that the Uzumaki and Senju had a history of cooperation and that it's been shown that they had marriages with each other, it's probable that Nagato simply comes from a line of Uzumaki-Senju marriages and so got the best of both worlds. We know Madara had a number of zetsus and that the Zetsus are essentially perfect spies, so it wouldn't be THAT hard for him to dig up some birth certificates and discover his unusual heritage.

      Seelentau wrote: All Uzumaki are VERY distantly related to the Senju. It was Kishimoto's cop-out to make Naruto relevant and tie into the Senju-Uchiha feud. Nagao is primarly an Uzumaki, though.

      Well, a number of people were considered related to the Sage, even the Gold and Silver brothers. Considering that 1000 years went past, it's not weird that more than just the Senju trace back to him. I agree that it's not exactly elegantly done though.

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    • I'm curious if gender has a part in it too. I mean the other Uzumaki that we know of are women and not like that are incapable of using powerful jutsu, but they seem either be the Jinchūriki or far more skilled with seals (atleast with the Uzumaki's we have seen). With Nagato not showing any particular skill in seals, at least at the same level he has the powerful charka and lifeforce, but doesn't have the same risk of possibly sealing the eye or sealing Madara, which seems like a reason enough to be the perfect host. This theory kinda applies to Naruto since he didn't show much skill in sealing either and while both lost their Uzamaki parents at a young age, they did grow up and still didn't show a lean towards sealing jutsu despite their family's talents in seals.

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    • Uzumaki Clan leader was a male at some point, so no.

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    • They barely showed anything about him, let alone if he had much skill in sealing, we can't assume he was a master of sealing jutsu or that he was a natural with sealing jutsu, he could be he Clan leader based on age or experience rather then skill in sealing.

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    • His article says "He was unrivalled in the handling of fūinjutsu, and was even said to be the forefather of Konoha's fūinjutsu" which is from the D4.

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    • GunmetalDragon wrote: His article says "He was unrivalled in the handling of fūinjutsu, and was even said to be the forefather of Konoha's fūinjutsu" which is from the D4.

      fair enough but it still remains that his descendants on the male side don't seem to do much with sealing considering Uzamaki were masters of it, and they hailed from the land of whirlpools which was renown for their sealing techniques.

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    • The only male Uzumaki we've seen in battle (baring Naruto) is Nagato and his fighting style is built solely around the Rinnegan. Even before he learned how to use it, he was only taught things Jiraiya knew. There wasnt an Uzumaki clan around for Nagato and Naruto to learn from. Even though there were things laying around, such as the scroll that had instructions on how to use the Dead Demon Seal Release and the Uzumaki Mask Temple, Naruto has been kept away from his family ties and Nagato was too preoccupied with world domination. You also have to consider fighting styles and how they tie into a character's personality. Naruto isnt really the type to use seals as part of his repertoire unless sealing is absolutely necessary. There's no rule that says that an Uzumaki has to be proficient in sealing. It's not a KKG, it's their Hiden. So I dont think there's enough information to suggest that any of this has to do with gender.

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    • Nagato is Senju and Uzumaki Hybrid. Not just that he and his parents originate from all the clans of Hagoromo which is actually why he's labeled an S06P. Rinnegan cannot be wielded by even a Uchiha plus Senju Container like Obito. So it's not just the above two clans in work here.

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    • Bullshit, Nagato was just an Uzumaki and nothing more...

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    • We need a thumbs down for this wikia, because I would of thumbed Elvenora all the way down for that negative comment.

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    • Nagato is just a Uzumaki (and if he has any non-Uzumaki blood, it must not be much).

      However, the Uzumaki clan are already distantly related to the Senju clan, along with the Uchiha, Hyūga, and Kaguya clans.

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    • Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: Rinnegan cannot be wielded by even a Uchiha plus Senju Container like Obito. So it's not just the above two clans in work here.

      Obito also had a curse mark on him, which may have prevented him from dual wielding the eyes. Plus, Nagato got both of them as a child in an apparently inactive state (Madara placed some sort of seal on them?). We've seen before that kids also seem more malleable when it comes to foreign powers (e.g. Yamato, Naruto).

      Could be any of that, could be none of that. But i find it suspect that a kid wields Rinnegan better than an adult from the proper clan and with actual transmigrant DNA, so clearly more is at work here. Since Madara transplanted the eyes to Nagato, it seems obvious he did something.

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    • FlatZone wrote: We need a thumbs down for this wikia, because I would of thumbed Elvenora all the way down for that negative comment.

      For what, calling things their proper name? This is useless. Both Senju and Uzumaki are Asura's descendants AND intermarriage was a seemingly common thing between them. So not only they share common ancestry, they also interbred, which means an Uzumaki was nothing more but a Senju with red hair, longer life span and Hiden Fuuinjutsu techniques.

      It went something like this: Very early Senju or even pre-Senju migrated to Land of Whirlpools and interbred with the local population, resulting in their long life spans. Yes, the long life spans isn't an Uzumaki thing, it was actually something that was present in the Land of Whirlpools population in general.

      So basically early Senju/pre-Senju + local folks = Uzumaki. And over the year Uzumaki married into Senju and Senju probably married into Uzumaki as well, meaning besides longer life spans, red hair and Hiden Fuuinjutsu techniques, the Uzumaki WERE basically Senju.

      Therefore I apologize for my French.

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    • Elveonora wrote: And over the year Uzumaki married into Senju and Senju probably married into Uzumaki as well, meaning besides longer life spans, red hair and Hiden Fuuinjutsu techniques, the Uzumaki WERE basically Senju.

      Yup. The more i think about it, the more i think that the Uzumaki were simply Senju in a different clan.

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    • They are Senju with a special life force, chakra quantity, power and abiity.. we know that. But I think Nagato is special among them all, which is why Madara chose him and which is why Nagato could wield both eyes with no drawbacks even as a kid. This may be speculation.. but I think Nagato may be Madara's child, I think he used Genjutsu to make Nagato's mother think that he was her husband on night.. then all Madara had to do was wait and put his eyes into Nagato.. Nagato even looks so much like Madara it's crazy, and he couldn't awaken his own Sharingan if Madara removed his original eyes before he had the chance to.. so that would be why Nagato was able to re-awaken the Rinnegan twice before it permanently remained active. His parents saw his eyes before that and obviously they were normal black eyes so they never had a reason to be weird about it, so I guess Madara chose Nagato for all these reasons. Third Six Paths is definitely a title he deserves.

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    • Madara having been Nagato's real father is not impossible 'insert I am your father star wars scene' but the thought of wrinkly grandpa Madara 'doing his job' with some young Uzumaki girl isn't very appealing to me.

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    • FlatZone wrote: But I think Nagato is special among them all, which is why Madara chose him and which is why Nagato could wield both eyes with no drawbacks even as a kid.

      I think Madara simply used some sort of seal on the eyes that locked away their true power until he would be strong enough to awaken them. He subconsciously murdered shinobi with them, and when enraged he could summon the Gedo.

      Alternatively, Obito was simply too greedy with the eyes and tried to use them on Nagato's level (unlike Nagato, he had access to pretty much all it's secrets), which is why the eyes reacted so strongly.

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