Guy, lee, neji and tenten vs Tendo Pain only, which side would take this? 8th gate of death is restricted.
Guy, lee, neji and tenten vs Tendo Pain only, which side would take this? 8th gate of death is restricted.
@rachin, he was kinda like, almost 5 times weaker than his is in here though, since all the bodies, except for the asura path, were being used as well at the time, so he would be about 5 times stronger.
@Lorenzo
He'd have more chakra sure, but the logic still applies. He was not weak during his fight with Kakashi, Choza and Choji at all so it really doesn't make a difference about having more chakra that it already had a high amount of.
@Rachin.
Incorrect. Tendo was not alone. He was with Asura. And even then, he had the other Peins if he should fall. Therefore he could afford to be reckless because at the end of the day there was 5 other Peins and one could reanimate him at any time.
You also have yet to counter Tendo being able to pull and push them. He's done it throughout the arc.
Rachin123 wrote: @Lorenzo
He'd have more chakra sure, but the logic still applies. He was not weak during his fight with Kakashi, Choza and Choji at all so it really doesn't make a difference about having more chakra that it already had a high amount of.
if nagato is fully healthy and is only concentrated on deva path, then he can most likely use the city lvl shinra tensei once, and the planetary devastation next, which totally kill them all in one go.
@LoneNinja
Tendo was indeed alone right after Choza and Choji arrived after the Asura Path got crushed. The other Pains were preoccupied. Had it not been for the Asura Path stepping in front of the Deva Path, it would have been killed by Kakashi's Lightning Cutter.
Pulling them will only prove to be his downfall as Neji can easily use air palm and he cannot use until 5 seconds after. I'm not going to continue to go on with this with you. I'm not going to repeat myself. Either you agree with or not. I really don't care.
@Lorenzo
He could do that but he won't start off like that and because of that, Team Guy has a chance.
hmm, well, that depends on the state of mind of course. if we go with fucking and utterly killing intent from the get-go, it would be a speed battle between how fast lee and guy go into their gates and try to kill him with whatever is their strongest attack (hirudora and a puch/kick), and how fast pain shinra tensei's with full power.. if not, then i guess the team loses, since they will kinda take their time, while pain wont.
@Rachin
1) Does it matter? The fact is, if he died, he'd be brought back. In this fight, he will not be. So he will fight cautiously. He isn't an idiot, I'm sorry if you feel that way since that is what you are implying, but the series state otherwise.
2) Why do you seem to think that Basho Ten'in (pull) and Shinra Tensei (push) are the same technique? They both have separate five second intervals. So your point doesn't make sense. So no, Neji with his Vacuum Palm won't do much against a Shinra that will blow them away so hard that their entire bodies are broken.
Finally. Darn straight I won't agree with you. Not when you try and say that Team Gai win Tendo easily because Tendo is basically an idiot. He has all the tools and abilities to win them easily but your argument is basically he just won't use them. Laughable.
Not to mention, I doubt 4 people can do what over 14k Shinobi couldn't, with some Shinobi on par with them.
@LoneNinja
The problem is do the other paths exist or not? They might not be in the fight but he could still be brought back even if it's not in the fight itself. I never said he was an idiot. I never implied anything. I'm going off the fight against Kakashi, Choji and Choza, which is totally fair. He was alone at that point until the Asura Path recuperated I guess, somehow.
Okay that's my bad. I know they are different techniques. The problem is the Deva Path has never done that kind of combination before, which could have definitely come in handy against Kakashi, Choza and Choji, but didn't.
I never said Team Guy can beat Tendo easily, but they could probably do so before he uses his more destructive jutsus. You know what's laughable. Him not doing everything you said he can do against Kakashi and company. The outcome him almost dying.
14k shinobi? Most of them were fodder and were just there to be defeated so lets no go there. Pain individually were going to be defeated by the leaf had the Deva Path not used his large scale Almighty Push to destroy the leaf. And even then, Tsunade had the ability to save countless villagers lives, which left the Deva Path at a handicap.
The Deva Path did not fly against Kakashi and company or against Naruto. He will not pull off powerful moves from the start and that's a fact. You saying otherwise is out of character.
But, yea believe what you want. This is officially my last comment to you here cuz I can sense you getting upset by you continually saying I'm implying something when I'm not. Good day to you.
1) If the other Paths exist, then he is revived. Thus a continuous loop until he wins. You implied a great deal of things. I'll show you down below.
2)"I never said they can beat Tendo so easily" Yet you state,
"Gates honestly is unneeded. In fact, Lee with weights off can find an opening. The battle will be over before it gets to that level."
"Tenten can launch countless weapons with explosive tags and Guy can use Hirudora to follow up. Pein will indeed block her attacks with Almighty Push and he will be defeated by the attack."
There's probably more. But reading this, anyone can determine you are implying they will win with relative ease.
I am by no means, mad. You aren't going to use that whole "You mad bro" kind of argument against me, lol. I won't get mad at irrelevant words that have nothing to do with me, but a fictional character. I read everything you say, and what you say is what you say.
3) Kiba, Tsunade, Sakura, Shino, the Hyuga, the Akimichi, the Nara, the Yamanaka, could fill the hole that Team Gai left. I'm sure that kind of force would of been a lot more effective than the force of team Gai. Yet, everyone deduced that no one but Naruto could basically defeat the Peins. Even when it was just Tendo alone, everyone said they'd just get in the way. If that entire force isn't a match for Tendo, Gai's team isn't.
4) No. What's a fact is that Tendo is known to push multiple enemies. So my scenario is highly likely. He doesn't even need pull, just simply push them all like rag dolls.
5) I think of things logically. If you sit here and tell me that Pein has the ability to beat them with relative ease and doesn't with an answer like just because he won't, I'll call you out on it. Cause there's no logic behind it. He just won't isn't a sufficient answer.