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  • Tsukiyomi is a the 3rd most powerful genjutsu in the naruto universe. Can the Rinnegaan block it with eyes open.

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    • No. The Rinnegan doesn't grant immunity to genjutsu.

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    • does that mean Itachi can defeat nagato

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    • Ahya07 wrote: does that mean Itachi can defeat nagato

      Didn't he already, as an Edo Tensei?

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    • With the help of a perfect jinchuuriki and an almost perfect jinchuuriki, yes. Don't even go there, please.

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    • Vladosaurus wrote: With the help of a perfect jinchuuriki and an almost perfect jinchuuriki, yes. Don't even go there, please.

      wasn't that mutual? Afterall they were acting like a battery to nagato too.
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    • can he do it alone?

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    • Namikazenaruto9 wrote: wasn't that mutual? Afterall they were acting like a battery to nagato too.

      Pretty much, yea. Nagato got a ton of power from Gyuki, and became notably faster and stronger.

      Ahya07 wrote: can he do it alone?

      Presumably, though it would be a close fight. The databook puts Jiraiya and Itachi as equals (exact same final score, down to the half-point), and it was noted by Nagato that if Jiraiya had known his secret he'd have lost. It depends on how fast Itachi would figure out the Paths, since Jiraiya wasted a lot of his power and time on fruitless efforts which led to his defeat.

      Keep in mind that we don't know much about Tsukuyome's weaknesses. We know a basic sharingan is enough to break it, provided the user has the skill. So evidently skill weighs more heavily in this regard than power. The Rinnegan seems to grant some degree of insight into jutsu as well, although it's not clear how and to what extent. But it's fairly safe to say it grants enough that Nagato could conceivably break it.

      ALso keep in mind that it was Itachi who said genjutsu doesn't work on people with the same eyes. This isn't that people are literally immune, but as Obito V Kakashi showed, the other can simply decode and deny the genjutsu fast enough that it doesn't matter. It's not that you don't get caught, it's that you don't stay caught.

      So no, Nagato wouldn't shrug off Tsukuyome like nobody's business, though it's feasible that he can rapidly break it down and stay largely unaffected.

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    • Sasuke did it with Tomoe rinnegan+PS.I dont think rinnegan can do it alone.

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    • Nagato was able to predict Amaterasu, he was hinting that Itachi was building up chakra in his eyes. The same should apply to Tsukuyomi, so Nagato should be able to act accordingly to it and that would explain why Itachi didn't use it against Nagato. Not to forget do I doubt that Itachi would have been able to destroy the gravity ball/center. I doubt that Itachi can do much against Nagato.

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    • Ace Chouno wrote: Nagato was able to predict Amaterasu, he was hinting that Itachi was building up chakra in his eyes. The same should apply to Tsukuyomi, so Nagato should be able to act accordingly to it and that would explain why Itachi didn't use it against Nagato. Not to forget do I doubt that Itachi would have been able to destroy the gravity ball/center. I doubt that Itachi can do much against Nagato.

      Bro its not about predicting. The thread is about if Rinnegan breaking or blocking Tsukuyomi. Most Dojutsu's would forsee the chakra build up in his eye.
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    • Kakashisologod1 wrote: Sasuke did it with Tomoe rinnegan+PS.I dont think rinnegan can do it alone.

      Tsukuyome, not IT

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    • @NamikazeNaruto> I was just responding to this.

      Ahya07 wrote: does that mean Itachi can defeat nagato

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    • Namikazenaruto9 wrote: Most Dojutsu's would forsee the chakra build up in his eye.

      Not really. We've only seen it with Nagato and Kaguya, really. While in theory any dojutsu can detect so, it seems that actually noticing the buildup of chakra in the eye takes considerable skill.

      Ace Chouno wrote: The same should apply to Tsukuyomi, so Nagato should be able to act accordingly to it and that would explain why Itachi didn't use it against Nagato.

      Seems reasonable, yea. The best defense is to not get hit in the first place, so if Nagato sees it coming (Literally) then he can either avert is eyes or otherwise defend (buildup of chakra, maybe use Preta?)

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    • Well with Most Dojutsus is he kinda right. The Byakugan should be able to detect it without much effort

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    • Ace Chouno wrote: Well with Most Dojutsus is he kinda right. The Byakugan should be able to detect it without much effort

      My point is that it takes skill. Kakashi didn't seem to notice Itachi's Tsukuyome, Sasuke didn't notice Itachi's Amaterasu. It was only people with extremely high skill levels, like Nagato and Kaguya, who detected the chakra buildup.

      So evidently, it's not a basic power at all, but rather an ability that comes with skill.

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    • Wasn't Nagato kind of a sensor with or without the rinnegan? So sensing chakra build is not strange at all for a sensor. That being said, i believe that when Nagato "sensed" from where he was being controlled by the reanimation jutsu, he was able to because of his rinnegan. I'm not sure that's correct though.

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    • @killman actually itachi allowed sasuke to break out of Tsukiyomi. He couldn't kill him inside the genjutsu because itachi wanted to remove the curse mark from sasuke. This proves that normal sharingaan cannot break out of tsukiyomi.

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    • Ahya07 wrote: @killman actually itachi allowed sasuke to break out of Tsukiyomi. He couldn't kill him inside the genjutsu because itachi wanted to remove the curse mark from sasuke. This proves that normal sharingaan cannot break out of tsukiyomi.

      No. Itachi outright stated that only a true Sharingan user can break it, IE an Uchiha (or even more specifically, Sasuke). It wasn't watered down.

      Besides, the Sharingan can analyze jutsu even retroactively, and decode how they work. Against Itachi it is, if i counted correctly, the 3rd time he gets hit. He had plenty of time to analyze how it works.

      Vladosaurus wrote:

      Wasn't Nagato kind of a sensor with or without the rinnegan? So sensing chakra build is not strange at all for a sensor.

      I think so, yea. He also sensed where Kabuto was based on his Edo Tensei connection.

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