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  • Well, recently I've been wondering again about the Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the past (because of recent Boruto episodes) and again faced the main problem of their membership. There are multiple statements that point out in the direction that the Seven Mist Swordsmen reincarnated by Kabuto (Mangetsu, Zabuza, Ameyuri, Fuguki, Jinin, Jinpachi, Kushimaru) never operated at the same time period together, which effectively leads to a conclusion that they can't be even called a single "generation". Here are the most valid of these facts:

    • Juzo's statement that only three of his fellow swordsmen have survived the fight against Might Duy, which includes himself, Fuguki and obviously Raiga. At the same time, Jinin and Kushimaru also participated, meaning they got killed, which makes impossible for them to operate with Zabuza and Mangetsu who joined the group only later on.
    • Raiga problem. Although he was a part of the "VS Duy" swordsmen, he wielded Kiba even after Zabuza's/Kisame's defection, up to his own death, which makes no room for any other Kiba wielder, while Ameyuri was supposed to be a one. Yeah, there's a possibility that Ameyuri used the blades for a short time after which they returned to Raiga, but otherwise, it's more logical to assume that she was Kiba's wielder before Raiga. So, again, it's impossible for her to join Zabuza's/Mangetsu's group.

    I perfectly realise that all of this info is anime only. As such, it also opens the possibility of the "strongest generation" intented to be a single generation in the manga, but anime simply messed up the swordsmen biographies. I'd like to hear some thoughts and opinions on that matter.

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    • I'm under the impression the statement was in regards to the generation of wielders for each sword eg Zabuza being the strongest wielder of Kubikiribōchō.

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    • There's a topic about this at the team's talk page. Basically, at the time of that discussion, there was nothing in the manga alone that invalidated the claim, so any inconsistency could indeed be chalked up by the anime not paying enough attention to established facts. Not sure if anything changes with the canonization of the Curry of Life arc through Buntan.

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    • pretty sure he meant the swords generations, if that makes any sense.

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    • Lorenzo.r.2nd wrote: pretty sure he meant the swords generations, if that makes any sense.

      To be honest, it doesn't. The swords themselves are always the same.

      It seems to me that the strongest generation simply meant the strongest individual swordsmen combined.

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    • Well, the version with the strongest wielder of each sword could be quite possible then, but still, I have some doubts about it. I mean, isn't the word "generation" supposed to mean the people from the same time period and not the individuals associated with each sword?

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    • Ravenlot 27 wrote: Well, the version with the strongest wielder of each sword could be quite possible then, but still, I have some doubts about it. I mean, isn't the word "generation" supposed to mean the people from the same time period and not the individuals associated with each sword?

      As I mentioned in the discussion in the talk page, the lack of proper definition for generation in this case would muddy things. What is a generation for the swordsmen? Some arbitrary amount of years? Every time their roster changes? Because with the Kage, we've seen wildly different lengths in generation.

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    • by generation, i think he meant the swords' wielders (like how samehada was passed down from generation and generation, or individual to individual. not counting bee, of course, the strongest wielder is by far kisame)

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