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  • I'm glad they showed Sarada at least use some of the basics of the Sharingan, managing at least a genjutsu and the predictive powers that Kakashi abused like mad against Zabuza. I'm still a little surprised that she's going to continue to keep the single tomoe in each eye even up to the Chūnin Exams (And by extension the movie in general.)

    Anyway, as expected, five of the seven "new swordsmen" went down like a ton of lead bricks, one of them even committing (Apparent) suicide after getting wrecked by Iwabe. We also get a lot backstory for Buntan.

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    • We haven't had a Sharingan copy a technique since Kisame vs Kakashi over a decade ago. Buntan is a lot more proficient in using her swords as opposed to the group facing Chōjūrō. Also curious to see what's in Mitsuki's scroll. Getting my popcorn ready for the upcoming discussion of whether the Raiga Kurosuki arc is canon, seeing as his defeat to Naruto was directly mentioned in the episode.

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    • It was a good episode(filler)hahahah,wasnt expecting 1 tomoe sharingan be able to cast genjutsu but hey its the anime

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    • Oh, look at that, worthless filler characters were worthless. Didn't saw that coming at all...

      Anyway, "Ninja Art: Snakehead" would be 忍法・雷魚, Ninpō: Raigyo(lit. Ninja Art: Lightning Fish), where "raigyo" is Japanese name of snakehead. So basically it's pun.

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    • I'm annoyed that what we thought were Kiba-exclusive Raitons can be copied AND used without Kiba.

      I saw Saru add Sarada to the jutsu list before watching the episode and thought that she maybe just stole one of Buntan's swords and used it. This episode left me a tad disappointed.

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    • Overall it was a good episode. I'm glad Chojuro overpowered the three of them (even if I'm not sure that Kyoho is really down), and how he showed them they are not ready to be called "Swordmen". Good to see also the limit of what Hassaku can do with Kubikiribocho without any training.

      I'm quite disappointed in Ichirota. He acted like the "second in command", but not only went down in a single slash but he didn't even used his sword primary power in his "fight" with Iwabe... I mean, Shibuki is meant to make thing explode, not to simply slash them, why he didn't cause an explosion with his first strike?

      Pretty good fight for Sarada, glad to see her using a genjutsu. I'm a bit perplexed at how proficient Buntan was with Kiba - and even more at how she made them fly

      Now I hope that Chojuro will slash Shizuma's ass with the Kubikiribocho

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    • This was a really good fight for Sarada and I mean it's really nice that we've seen her use her sharingan in action and almost to it's full capacity for a one tomoe sharingan which I love. I was just expecting more Sakura influence on this battle honestly. And she absolutely didn't do anything that her mother is known for, Not taijutsu or any usage of enhanced super human strength. but still a really nice fight that I enjoyed.

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    • i wanna know wht happen to sarada from passing out from using shadow clone and sharingan to this hahahah

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    • Mcpowa wrote: It was a good episode(filler)hahahah,wasnt expecting 1 tomoe sharingan be able to cast genjutsu but hey its the anime

      Why wouldn't it? It seems all the basic Sharingan powers are there from the start, they just become more powerful with each tomoe added.

      BerserkerPhantom wrote: I'm annoyed that what we thought were Kiba-exclusive Raitons can be copied AND used without Kiba.

      The Kiba just gives lighting power, the user has to shape and use it. Sarada can simply use her own power to substitute for the sword.

      Gilgamesh85 wrote: I'm quite disappointed in Ichirota. He acted like the "second in command", but not only went down in a single slash but he didn't even used his sword primary power in his "fight" with Iwabe... I mean, Shibuki is meant to make thing explode, not to simply slash them, why he didn't cause an explosion with his first strike?

      It seems to me that the sword was rigged to explode. Which is how he intended to kill Chojuro. He couldn't use the sword in normal mode, so he was essentially waving around an expensive paper weight.

      Gilgamesh85 wrote: I'm a bit perplexed at how proficient Buntan was with Kiba - and even more at how she made them fly

      The databook mentions that Orochimaru had some sort of Jutsu that could make his Kusanagi act on his wishes. it seems the Kiba was under a similar jutsu here.

      Mcpowa wrote: i wanna know wht happen to sarada from passing out from using shadow clone and sharingan to this hahahah

      She got better at using them both. As got explained in part 1, bad chakra control can lead to really inefficient chakra use. Since she only just used it then, she wasted a lot of chakra. In this case she had time to adjust to them and in the case of the Lighting Release, was copying from someone proficient with it.

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    • never in the manga we saw some1 using genjutsu with 1 tomoe but hey

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    • Mcpowa wrote: never in the manga we saw some1 using genjutsu with 1 tomoe but hey

      We didn't see a whole lot of people with 1 tomoe.

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    • but the ones we saw they didn't so

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    • They might going a little bit overboard with all that surpassing thingy. A reminder that Team 7 barely could handle Zabuza and now you are telling me a single kid can handle a 19 year old with one of the more powerfull swords with a level 1 Sharingan. Also wasn't it stated you needed level 2 Sharingan to use the copy technique and level 3 to perform the Genjutsu.

      I known it isn't easy to take over a manga/anime but don't they have a team that could help them with such details...

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    • Mcpowa wrote: but the ones we saw they didn't so

      Doesn't mean they couldn't. Again, how many people did we see with one tomoe? Sasuke comes to mind, but other than that nobody. And sasuke didn't use genjutsu a whole lot anyway, with or without sharingan/mangekyo

      Jens Ingels wrote: Also wasn't it stated you needed level 2 Sharingan to use the copy technique and level 3 to perform the Genjutsu.

      No, it never was

      Jens Ingels wrote: A reminder that Team 7 barely could handle Zabuza and now you are telling me a single kid can handle a 19 year old with one of the more powerfull swords with a level 1 Sharingan.

      Team 7 at that time was also very weak, with a Sakura and Naruto with no meaningful jutsu.

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    • @Killman doesn't mean they can also

      1 question why did sasuke had to train to learn chidori why not just copy since he had affinity allrdy?

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    • Thekillman wrote:

      Mcpowa wrote: but the ones we saw they didn't so

      Doesn't mean they couldn't. Again, how many people did we see with one tomoe? Sasuke comes to mind, but other than that nobody. And sasuke didn't use genjutsu a whole lot anyway, with or without sharingan/mangekyo

      Sasuke had only a level 2 Sharingan for a long periode in the series. I believe he had a level 3 by the time the tournament started. He also started with level 2. Sarada is the first user I see with a level 1. It's kinda strange that level 1 provides the same benefits as a level 3.

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    • Mcpowa wrote: but the ones we saw they didn't so

      You can't compare those people to Sarada. It's so obvious Sarada will be one of the top strongest Uchiha in her clan she might even become like her uncle if she didn't get the rinnegan of course. Plus Sarada is the main female character on this show so she will more focused on then other people or other Uchiha's for that sake. Who know she might even unlock powers that only her in the whole Uchiha clan and amongst all sharingan users can use it's not too far fetched.

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    • @Tay yeah ur right lets break manga logic because its sarada

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    • I got very strong Mary Sue vibes from Sarada this episode. Like holy shit, copying a technique that only works with the Kiba swords? And still being able to use it?

      Not to mention 1T Genjutsu? LOL Sp

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    • Thekillman wrote:

      Mcpowa wrote: It was a good episode(filler)hahahah,wasnt expecting 1 tomoe sharingan be able to cast genjutsu but hey its the anime

      Why wouldn't it? It seems all the basic Sharingan powers are there from the start, they just become more powerful with each tomoe added.

      BerserkerPhantom wrote: I'm annoyed that what we thought were Kiba-exclusive Raitons can be copied AND used without Kiba.

      The Kiba just gives lighting power, the user has to shape and use it. Sarada can simply use her own power to substitute for the sword.

      Gilgamesh85 wrote: I'm quite disappointed in Ichirota. He acted like the "second in command", but not only went down in a single slash but he didn't even used his sword primary power in his "fight" with Iwabe... I mean, Shibuki is meant to make thing explode, not to simply slash them, why he didn't cause an explosion with his first strike?

      It seems to me that the sword was rigged to explode. Which is how he intended to kill Chojuro. He couldn't use the sword in normal mode, so he was essentially waving around an expensive paper weight.

      Gilgamesh85 wrote: I'm a bit perplexed at how proficient Buntan was with Kiba - and even more at how she made them fly

      The databook mentions that Orochimaru had some sort of Jutsu that could make his Kusanagi act on his wishes. it seems the Kiba was under a similar jutsu here.

      Mcpowa wrote: i wanna know wht happen to sarada from passing out from using shadow clone and sharingan to this hahahah

      She got better at using them both. As got explained in part 1, bad chakra control can lead to really inefficient chakra use. Since she only just used it then, she wasted a lot of chakra. In this case she had time to adjust to them and in the case of the Lighting Release, was copying from someone proficient with it.

      I don't think she was only fluid with lightening release because she copied it from someone who was proficient because she apparently copied the shadow clone jutsu from Naruto and Boruto and nobody is more efficient with that jutsu then them. I think her being at ease with lightening jutsu could be just an affinity thing we still don't know what her affinity is but it's likely that she has a lightening affinity since her father has the same thing as well. and If not then it also can be a prodigious talent thing because her father also was just as proficient with using fire release as he was with lightening.

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    • @Tay answer me this why didn't sasuke copied chidori?


      Omg if today was like this IMAGINE the next episode my boy boruto will show some crazy shit

      Not gonna lie sarada deserved spotlight but it was a bit 2 much

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    • Mcpowa wrote: @Tay yeah ur right lets break manga logic because its sarada

      Well it won't be the first time this has been done with an Uchiha XD. As for Sasuke not copying chidori it's probably for the same reason Naruto wasn't able to master any nature transformations until "Shippuden" while Boruto can already use three and he's still an academy student they obviously are approaching this new series with the "new" generation being superior to the old generation ideology. Sarada will without a doubt surpass her parents eventually she might not surpass "Rinnegan" Sasuke without a Rinnegan which is a topic we can't touch until she either gets a Rinnegan or not. But besides that she will definitely surpass pre-rinnegan Sasuke by the time she's in her mid-teens considering she's an academy student now and she's almost at the exact same level with a chunin kunoichi.
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    • Team 7 could barely handle Zabuza and Haku because they were S-ranked missing nin. Zabuza could fight Kakashi on par, and was mid-jonin level.

      These are just punks pretending to be something their not, low chunin level at best. Chojuro let himself get captured, let them scratch him, and showed them his resolve, and tested theirs. They broke, in my eyes, they weren't even worth killing, so he knocked them out like the children they were.

      Considering he's the best assassin among the five Kage, if Boruto didn't convince Chojuro not to kill them, he would have killed them all quick and fast.

      Iwabe is also well above academy student level, and while Chojuro was toying with them, he went in serious and took that dude out like nothing.

      Also, Sarada just learned a crap ton of new jutsu. Buntan just kept giving her jutsu LOL

      tbh i was waiting for a "SINCE WHEN?!" / "FROM THE VERY BEGINNING" moment there with the genjutsu

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    • Mcpowa wrote: It was a good episode(filler)hahahah,wasnt expecting 1 tomoe sharingan be able to cast genjutsu but hey its the anime

      I thought all the abilities are present regardless of level. its just the higher the level the better the eyes(i.e. Predicting moves)

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    • UntappedRage wrote: Team 7 could barely handle Zabuza and Haku because they were S-ranked missing nin. Zabuza could fight Kakashi on par, and was mid-jonin level.

      These are just punks pretending to be something their not, low chunin level at best. Chojuro let himself get captured, let them scratch him, and showed them his resolve, and tested theirs. They broke, in my eyes, they weren't even worth killing, so he knocked them out like the children they were.

      Considering he's the best assassin among the five Kage, if Boruto didn't convince Chojuro not to kill them, he would have killed them all quick and fast.

      Iwabe is also well above academy student level, and while Chojuro was toying with them, he went in serious and took that dude out like nothing.

      Also, Sarada just learned a crap ton of new jutsu. Buntan just kept giving her jutsu LOL

      tbh i was waiting for a "SINCE WHEN?!" / "FROM THE VERY BEGINNING" moment there with the genjutsu

      I agree with you on the other 4 but I will say that I think Buntan, and Kagura could be on Haku's level at least if not just a little higher. Remember that the Samihada sword doesn't just let anyone use it. It only allows people with huge amounts of chakura to control it so I think Shizuma could be around Zabuza's level.
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    • if they started like this just imagine by the end of the manga my boy boruto above sasuke and naruto ty sp

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    • Great episode. Finally, winning through strategy not just godlike jutsu. Sarada showed that she's book smart too, not just a good kunoichi. Honestly, I didn't expect Raiga to be such an asshole, abandoning his wife/lover, considering how he always wanted a family and how he took care of Ranmaru. Overall, a very good episode!

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    • LMAO are you seriously comparing Zabuza and Haku with these rats? Zabusa was around early-Naruto Kakashi level, which is still strong as hell. Way way stronger than any of the new swordsman. Haku was also way above any of them. So not really a reason to compare Naruto and Sasuke to Boruto or Sarada. Way different scenarios.

      Also, i don't recall a single time Sasuke using genjutsu in part 1. He had 2 tomoes for almost all of part 1, except for when he first used it vs Haku (he had 2 tomoes only in one eye a believe) and when he fought Naruto at VOTE2, when he received the third tomoe. He used a lot of genjutsu in part 2, in almost every major fight he had.

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    • GodlyHades wrote: I got very strong Mary Sue vibes from Sarada this episode. Like holy shit, copying a technique that only works with the Kiba swords? And still being able to use it?

      Not to mention 1T Genjutsu? LOL Sp

      I may agree with the genjutsu part (we have never seen anyone fight with a one-tomoe sharingan, true, but the genjutsu used by Sarada seems a bit too powerful), but not on the copy part. I quote directly from the Kiba page:

      In the anime, they allow the user to transform and manipulate lightning freely, even perform their Lightning Release techniques without hand seals

      This seems to imply two things:

      • The user imbues Kiba with his own chakra, and Kiba "automatically" converts it into Lightning chakra
      • The user still has to mold the chakra to perform the jutsu, but Kiba eases the process

      The last part is also hinted in this episode: Raiga never waved any hand sign to use its jutsu (as far as I remember), while Buntan had to wave hand signs to use the Lightning Ball - and that's when Sarada copied it

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    • Man if u think about it sasuke was a weak ass sharingan user needed to train to use chidori instead of copying only used genjutsu after time skip copied lee movements with 2tomoe dam sarada is a beast!

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    • Mcpowa wrote: Man if u think about it sasuke was a weak ass sharingan user needed to train to use chidori instead of copying only used genjutsu after time skip copied lee movements with 2tomoe dam sarada is a beast!

      I wouldn't say he was weak. It's just that in his era that was the most he probably could've done. Sarada has allot more resources then Sasuke the books that Sarada has access to tells her more about the sharingan and it's abilities plus she has her mother and people around Konoha who've experienced the sharingan first hand to tell her all about it while Sasuke basically had only himself to learn from. But this definitely proves that Sarada is a much more prodigious child then Sasuke was for the simple fact that she has almost as much control over her chakura and her reflexes as Sasuke did around the time him and Naruto fought as genin and she's still an academy student.

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    • Yeah Filler =P

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    • Mcpowa wrote: Yeah Filler =P

      Is this filler tho?? Just because it isn't directly adapted from the manga doesn't mean it's filler. This arc especially can't be considered filler because it has a direct connection with the movie and the manga. This arc explains where Boruto learned how to use all these nature transformations. And the manga mentioned that Sarada was a lightening release user but they never mentioned how she learned it and now it's explained, and the manga also mentioned that Sarada had Yin Release and I remember that there was a poll that said it was a typo or a mistake lol because she never displayed any abilities in using genjutsu in the movie, and it's all explained here. They didn't say that this is filler content and it honestly doesn't seem as such considering how important it is to what's going to happen in the future.
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    • Mcpowa wrote: Man if u think about it sasuke was a weak ass sharingan user needed to train to use chidori instead of copying

      As Kakashi explained to Naruto, Sasuke didn't know Lightning Release. On the other hand, Sarada was confirmed to have Lightning release already. It was implied that after learning Lightning Release he easily learned Chidori. After all, it took several days to learn Lightning release and kakashi trained him hard in order to perform Lee's ninjutsu, leaving little time to actually master Chidori. Especially since Gaara had enough time to find him, talk to him and return well on time for the final stage, and Sasuke was already performing Chidori by then, repeatedly.

      Also, Sasuke matched Lee's taijutsu in a month, despite the fact that Lee had to train for years. you're just being dramatic for drama's sake. Evidently, copying what you already can do is a lot easier than copying something you've never done before, whether that's taijutsu or lightning release.

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    • The Boruto anime as a whole is canon.

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    • Filler

      And sasuke was stated to have lightning affinity and he trained to achieve it meanwile sarada did just like that she´s so good that used a lightning jutsu tht requires the bunta sword without it ASS PULL.

      Another one used genjutsu with 1 tomoe meanwhile sasuke does after time skip.

      And another one from fainting after using shadow clone and sharingan to using 4 lightning jutsus+genjutsu+shadowclone my god Beast hahaha

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    • No, it's canon. The author made a comment about it.

      Sarada had personal tutoring from a number of Jonin, one of them her mother, while Sasuke had nothing due to the fact his family died. All he knew was Fire Release, and that feat is in-and-of-itself extremely impressive.

      So we are to assume she has already trained to gain Lightning Release prior to this arc, which would make sense seeing her dedication to become Hokage.

      Sarada also had a huge repository of knowledge, and had prior training with her Sharingan whilst Sasuke did not, having awoken it in the heat of battle and knowing nothing of it's capabilities.

      However, yes, Sarada seems to have massive stores of chakra...

      The next Madara maybe? Huehuehue

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    • so raiga arc is canon then.

      i see we must assume everything then good to know jajajaja

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    • If they referenced the Raiga filler its filler

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    • No, it's not. We've been over this before.

      It's not the manga reference to the anime arc that makes the entire anime canon, it's the author of said manga stating that the two are indeed connected.

      The anime referenced the Raiga arc, yes, but that was it. It doesn't make the entire filler canon. Only the line where "Naruto killed Raiga" is canon. Not the arc.

      If The Last Jedi mentioned Revan and the Jedi Exile, does that make KOTOR 1/2 canon? No, only their names. That's how it works.

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    • Sarutobii2 wrote: Getting my popcorn ready for the upcoming discussion of whether the Raiga Kurosuki arc is canon, seeing as his defeat to Naruto was directly mentioned in the episode.

      ...pls no

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    • ...IT MUST BE DONE

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    • Thekillman wrote:

      Mcpowa wrote: Man if u think about it sasuke was a weak ass sharingan user needed to train to use chidori instead of copying

      As Kakashi explained to Naruto, Sasuke didn't know Lightning Release. On the other hand, Sarada was confirmed to have Lightning release already. It was implied that after learning Lightning Release he easily learned Chidori. After all, it took several days to learn Lightning release and kakashi trained him hard in order to perform Lee's ninjutsu, leaving little time to actually master Chidori. Especially since Gaara had enough time to find him, talk to him and return well on time for the final stage, and Sasuke was already performing Chidori by then, repeatedly.

      Also, Sasuke matched Lee's taijutsu in a month, despite the fact that Lee had to train for years. you're just being dramatic for drama's sake. Evidently, copying what you already can do is a lot easier than copying something you've never done before, whether that's taijutsu or lightning release.

      No they never confirmed that academy level Sarada knew lightening release at all. What was confirmed was that during the Mompshiki arc Sarada knew lightening release, there is absolutely nothing that proves that Sarada had lightening release prior to this. She is more of a natural then Sasuke and I think that's a given but I agree with everything else you said especially the fact that Sasuke was pretty much lonely and he had to figure allot of things on his own while Sarada and Boruto have a pretty good amount of experienced shinobi around them to sort of lead them and guide them to the easiest shortcuts.

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    • Lol, it's pretty obvious that the arc is canon at this point. "Only the fact that Naruto killed Raiga is canon" ? Lol. Makes no sense. What would you like for them to do? Revise the whole Raiga Arc line by line? C'mon...

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    • Mcpowa wrote: And sasuke was stated to have lightning affinity and he trained to achieve it meanwile sarada did just like that she´s so good that used a lightning jutsu tht requires the bunta sword without it ASS PULL.

      Such a thing was never explicitly stated. Kakashi said "he's just like me", which can mean a lot of things. Sasuke learned Fire Release extremely easily (although still nowhere near as easy as Itachi), and WELL before he ever used lightning. He breathed fire mere moments after being taught the seals for Fireball.

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    • Naruto being credited for defeating Raiga is somewhat of a throwback to Sasuke being regarded as the one who defeated Zabuza.

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    • Jens Ingels wrote: They might going a little bit overboard with all that surpassing thingy. A reminder that Team 7 barely could handle Zabuza and now you are telling me a single kid can handle a 19 year old with one of the more powerfull swords

      Buntan is nowhere near as good as Zabuza, Zabuza was an anbu, this girl is probaly chunin level. Just because Kiba is more than the Executioner's blade, does not mean the wielder is. As Chojuro said, "A sword is only as good as its wielder".
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    • Mcpowa wrote: And another one from fainting after using shadow clone and sharingan to using 4 lightning jutsus+genjutsu+shadowclone

      I know off-screen training is a thing, but still... I can accept that since her affinity is lightning, she had an easier time using the jutsu.

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    • @Question ur right just like using that lightning jutsu tht requires the sword

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    • Well, it just means that the sword is an easier way to use lightning jutsu, but it doesn't mean the techniques are exclusive to it. Otherwise, Kiba could've been wielded even by the people who didn't master the Lightning Release at all.

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    • @ravenalot so this is a mistake "By combining his twin swords at their hilts and rotating them, Raiga can use this technique to surround himself with electricity(lightning striking armor)"

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    • Yep, with the info from the current episode, this info already isn't correct. I think you can feel free to fix the content of the page.

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    • Well too me it was really nice battle. All the sequence of ninjutsu and Genjutsu were just awesome. Though I was quite surprised that she could copy even the lightning armor. Other than that everything was as promised.
      Actually I am more curious about scroll which Mitsuki is taking to Boruto. What does that contain? Edo Tensei of Yagura?

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    • It's been a fucking minute since I've watched the Raiga arc... Naruto killed him by Rasengan?

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    • He had a bunch of shadow clones punching him off a cliff. Then Raiga summoned a thunder to kill himself off for good or something like that.

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    • Ravenlot 27 wrote: Yep, with the info from the current episode, this info already isn't correct. I think you can feel free to fix the content of the page.

      No ty something tells me there are alot more to come (retcons).

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    • As far as i can tell, it was simply assumed to be a Kiba power. It's not a retcon if it was fanon all along. The Manga makes no real mention of it's power, just that it's imbued with lightning, making it the sharpest blade. Seems to me it's functionally similar to the Five Element Fan, in that it's imbued with an automatic nature transformation and can either use the user's chakra or (for master-wielders) gather energy from the environment.

      Also, i'd forgotten how Raiga used it. He constantly channels lightning from the sky. Makes sense that in this boruto episode, it's inner power since we don't see her charge the blades even once. Raiga did it basically every other jutsu, if not every jutsu. He also didn't use any handsigns.

      Ncduru wrote: It's been a fucking minute since I've watched the Raiga arc... Naruto killed him by Rasengan?

      Naruto did a 300 on him and kicked him off a giant cliff. Raiga killed himself mid-flight to avoid the moral repercussions.

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    • Mcpowa wrote: @Killman doesn't mean they can also

      1 question why did sasuke had to train to learn chidori why not just copy since he had affinity allrdy?

      the sharingan can copy the basics of the technique but the true power of the chidori comes from the speed of the technnique that transends the limitations of the body. sasuke had to train to develop the speed to use the technique in any meaninglful way. witholut the speed it would have been little more than a stun gun. with the speed it becomes a powerful spear

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    • Can someone update the wiki with a screen shot of the size of the hole the blastsword made

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    • I never knew that Iwabe had a sword!

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    • Mcpowa wrote: Filler

      And sasuke was stated to have lightning affinity and he trained to achieve it meanwile sarada did just like that she´s so good that used a lightning jutsu tht requires the bunta sword without it ASS PULL.

      Another one used genjutsu with 1 tomoe meanwhile sasuke does after time skip.

      And another one from fainting after using shadow clone and sharingan to using 4 lightning jutsus+genjutsu+shadowclone my god Beast hahaha

      Sasuke didn't have anyone training him for genjutsu.It was shown that other than a chakra savinv advice from Kakashi.He did not teach him it all. It was after he was with Oro that he got the proper training he needed.Oro probably wanted that Sharingan to have that genjutsu power for which he once got defeated.Kakashi didn't train him for Sharingan.It was other things.While Oro trained him for Sharingan and othe rthings as well. Meanwhile, Sarada is the daughter if that poweful prodigy and the daughter of a powerful medical ninja who has incredible Chakra control.Chakra control was mentioned to be one of the aspects of Genjutsu.She basically gained that chakra control from her mother and Sasuke's Chakra control was mentioned to be of amazing lengths said by Kurama himself.So with both that factors.It's not surprising she can do a basic genjutsu with 1T Sharingan.

      And for the lightning release.You must understand that Sasuke wasn't just learning a lightning jutsu.He was learning the lightning jutsu, Chidori.An A rank jutsu.While in the midst of training for speed. And must I remind I remind you that he can only use that jutsu twice a day.So training for it wouldn't be that easy.Since he has to pratice it twice a day only. But he already learned a fire release jutsu at the age of 7.And learned many other fire release while before being a genin.And that too, before he even was able to walk on walls.So without even a proper chakra control or training he mastered it.That's something.

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    • BlazeRelease Sarada was never taught by anyone how to use genjutsu, after all she wanted to keep it a secret as mentioned in episode 24 when she was training with chocho, Sakura couldn't teach her because genjutsu is not one of her skills and sasuke probably left before he could teach her, the only adult who could possibly know about sarada's sharingan is Konohamaru, even then I highly doubt he knows genjutsu that can be casted by the sharingan. And you can't inherit chakra control, its something that has to be learned

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    • @LeGOat.Um I'm not saying that Sarada was trained by anyone.I'm merely mentioning that her mother had better Chakra control than Naruto and Sasuke who were both from powerful clans and transmigrants.Without coming from any special clan.And also not being trained by anyone at all.She showed the skill at her first attempt.And Sasuke's skills improved drasticaly.So their daughter may have inherited Sakura's natural talent for Chakra control.I mean it's not at all far fetched to think, after we literally saw her amplifying her strength through chakra control just like Sakura.A chakra control that should not be ignored.And Genjutsu is mainly on greater chakra control if I'm right.

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    • Mcpowa wrote: @Killman doesn't mean they can also

      1 question why did sasuke had to train to learn chidori why not just copy since he had affinity allrdy?

      simple you have to have two tomoes, not just one

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    • omg men

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    • We need to start talking about how big the blast from the blast sword was and how big the hole in the ground was it made.

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    • If you look at the preview for episode 13, Boruto and Kagura, It doesn't look like Boruto and Kagura are just gonna talk things out.

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    • Well, the episode was decent overall, but still two main flaws:

      • The copying part in Sarada vs Buntan battle was the least believeable part of the fight because of the lack of the common logic. Visual-wise, it seems brilliant and even brings up the memories of part I Kakashi vs Zabuza water dragons' clash, but still, it makes no logical sense. I mean, we've never seen Sarada performing Lightning Release so far, and it obviously isn't her speciality nor battlestyle, while in Buntan's case, it should be both her speciality and battlestyle alltogether. Even if we discard the possibility of Kiba amplifying the power of the user's lightning techniques, due to Chojuro's statement about the sword being as powerful as its user is, Buntan's skills technically should've been no match for Sarada to counter them by simply copying the jutsu.
      • Ichirota's utter defeat also is something I don't want to accept as logical. He appeared to be the most rational and quick-witted swordsman of the entire team (maybe, except Shizuma himself), but was taken down in mere seconds, and not even by Chojuro's hand, but by a genin-level shinobi at best.
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    • Ravenlot 27 wrote: The copying part in Sarada vs Buntan battle was the least believeable part of the fight because of the lack of the common logic.

      Judging by Raiga's use of the sword, Buntan didn't tap into the sword's real power. She just used it's apparently ability of easy lightning transformation. Note how she neither charges the sword with ambient lightning nor can use the sword in stead of hand seals.

      Infact, note how all these new swordsmen use the basic powers of the swords well but none of them match Zabuza's generation in scope and application. There's no silent killing and the mist is not thick enough.

      Ravenlot 27 wrote:

      Ichirota's utter defeat also is something I don't want to accept as logical.

      It was somewhat weird, yes, though it seems to me that the plan was that he would move in, attack Chojuro and detonate the sword entirely, thus killing him. Outside interference made this plan worthless, so he was stuck with an expensive paperweight rigged to explode.

      Though, i feel like we're still missing a resolution here, so maybe next episode will show more.

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    • Guys, but you didn't get Boruto Next Generations is just a stupid show ?

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    • Thekillman wrote: Judging by Raiga's use of the sword, Buntan didn't tap into the sword's real power. She just used it's apparently ability of easy lightning transformation. Note how she neither charges the sword with ambient lightning nor can use the sword in stead of hand seals.

      Infact, note how all these new swordsmen use the basic powers of the swords well but none of them match Zabuza's generation in scope and application. There's no silent killing and the mist

      Well, it's not like I'm trying to overrestimate the power level of these so called "Swordsmen", but I was just saying that Buntan's Lightning Release was supposed to be superior to Sarada's anyway, since the latter just used it on fly, while Buntan seems to be a more experienced user. In that case, Buntan's jutsu should've been stronger and thus should've overwhelmed Sarada's inferior version.

      Thekillman wrote: It was somewhat weird, yes, though it seems to me that the plan was that he would move in, attack Chojuro and detonate the sword entirely, thus killing him. Outside interference made this plan worthless, so he was stuck with an expensive paperweight rigged to explode.

      Sounds quite plausable to me, although I always thought that Shibuki's wielder can make the sword explode on their command and not just automatically, as well as control the total output of the explosion.

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    • If they are gonna keep dragging things out like this they better give us a CLoud and Sand arc before the inevitable, DBS style Momoshiki arc. They could benefit from developing Shinki and Yuruis Teams.

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    • Ravenlot 27 wrote:

      Well, it's not like I'm trying to overrestimate the power level of these so called "Swordsmen", but I was just saying that Buntan's Lightning Release was supposed to be superior to Sarada's anyway, since the latter just used it on fly, while Buntan seems to be a more experienced user. In that case, Buntan's jutsu should've been stronger and thus should've overwhelmed Sarada's inferior version.

      How much anyone else tries, the Uchihas excels in everything-Orochimaru(Just roughly taken of what he said in the anime, remembering of the event of seeing Itachi, and starting his fetish for Uchihas before getting killed by Sasuke)

      Basically a daughter of a progidy there.She's basically the first Uchiha, all over again.And she has shown perfect chakra control for that enhanced punch she did with Shin.So can't these factors be taken as the answer for your question?

      Minato33 wrote: Guys, but you didn't get Boruto Next Generations is just a stupid show ?

      Well the orginal show's main interest came from it's uniqueness.That is an anime about awesome ninjas fighting each other, with drama,sorrow,humour,mysteries, and cool music as it's flesh.Everything they could flesh out from the anime was done.Every possible fight ranging to normal fights with giant chakra beings.Along with the rain of fillers.Of course, now this show didn't show anything much new from it other than it's new plot and villains to come.The old show had many amazing back stories and crisis, for each ninja.While these from Boruto don't exactly have those in the same extenct.But well, the show just started(I mean the manga, and that too after the movie story)I hope this shows it something worth to watch, other than just being a continuation of Naruto.For the truth is, Boruto as a character doesn't have the same charishma as Naruto did.Nor is he even cool as Sasuke.Though again, the chapters did just start.So you know.Maybe I'll be proven wrong(I hope so)

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    • The genjutsu makes bothan show sarada the hand signs before doing them allowing sarada to do the jutsu before bothan

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    • Ravenlot 27 wrote: Sounds quite plausable to me, although I always thought that Shibuki's wielder can make the sword explode on their command and not just automatically, as well as control the total output of the explosion.

      Under normal function, yea. But i would consider it an absolutely retarded weakness if the user could explode all tags on command, without some sort of failsafe to prevent this. I mean, look at how many tags that thing contains, you don't want them to go off mid-battle by accident. The explosions of the exposed tags also don't cause a chain reaction with the other tags within the sword, so evidently some sort of protection is there.

      So in order to detonate it all, i think you'd have to damage the sword's mechanism.

      Minato33 wrote: Guys, but you didn't get Boruto Next Generations is just a stupid show ?

      Watch the Raiga filler (the one with that curry of life stuff) and tell me, is that better than this? because i think it's not.

      Also, you don't have to watch it and you don't have to be here.

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    • it weird seeing these kids pull new techniques out of nowhere. techniques someone wouldve had to teach them how to do.

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    • PoisonousVapor wrote: it weird seeing these kids pull new techniques out of nowhere. techniques someone wouldve had to teach them how to do.

      Which ones? Because it seems to me the New Swordsmen already trained with those swords prior to this.

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    • Oh no, not the swordsmen. Im talking mostly about boruto and sarada. I was real suprised when boruto pulled those 3 chakra natures out after just learning how to walk on water

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    • PoisonousVapor wrote: Oh no, not the swordsmen. Im talking mostly about boruto and sarada. I was real suprised when boruto pulled those 3 chakra natures out after just learning how to walk on water

      Apparently Boruto has an affinity for elemental nature transforms. Considering the insane levels of power Naruto has and the heritage of Hinata, it's not that surprising that he has such power. We've seen stronger kids with weaker genes than that, and Boruto is definitely on the lower end of the potential he could've had.

      Sasuke did fire release before he was in the Academy, and trained lightning release in a few days/weeks, something that Kakashi noted was already rare. So Sarada being good at this isn't that strange either. Especially since Sakura was known for her book smarts and precise chakra control, which complement Sarada's Uchiha abilities well.

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    • Little run down of my opinion of some of the discussions topics.

      To those saying "Oh the one tomoe Sharingan can't use Genjutsu" well just because it wasn't shown doesn't mean it can't be done. And now it has been shown to be possible. No one ever said or demonstrated that they couldn't. An Uchiha with some really excellent chakra control might advance quickly enough to so it.

      "Why didn't Sasuke copy Chidori" The Sharingan shows you exactly how something is done. Whether you can do it or not, that's different. Sasuke wasn't capable of actually using Chidori; he physically wasn't capable enough, and he couldn't use Lightning Release. So Kakashi trained him to be more physically capable and taught how to use Lightning Release. The reason Kakashi could copy techniques as easily as he did was because he already had the actual capabilities to do the techniques, being the prodigy that he was. Remember Sasuke vs Rock Lee? Sasuke could copy the movements and could actually see the moves happening, but he couldn't copy the speed or power; he had to train for those. The Sharingan shows you how, but your body has to keep up.

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    • That pretty much means Sarada could use Lightning Release to an extent OR that it's her affinity.

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    • I liked this episode, honestly it was better than most episodes of this arc, there was talking but at the same time plot developing angles, a backstory for Buntan, a little credit given to Iwabe, Sarada shutting up a few haters with her excellent combat brain, and mostly more than half the wannabe got wiped out and they didn't make Chojuro douche.

      I mean hell I was always worried that just to make Boruto look stronger hope they don't make a fool out of Chojuro.

      Just hope this ends here, and Buntan and Shizuma goes underground for some time before coming out as a more worthy villain, they got potential. And hopefully Kagura gets on the right track and leads a new pack of swordsmen who aint wannabe's.

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    • AsianReaper wrote: To those saying "Oh the one tomoe Sharingan can't use Genjutsu" well just because it wasn't shown doesn't mean it can't be done.

      I agree.

      I'm trying to remember if we ever saw someone with single tomoe other than Sasuke. Because i can't remember any other uchiha in the Manga with just one tomoe. So it's not exactly a solid basis to generalize on.

      And i keep being surprised at how much fanon is accepted as canon, like what powers the Sharingan has based on it's tomoe. The only guarantee we have is that more tomoe improves the powers considerably, but there's no indication that more tomoe grant more powers. Yet i see people here acting like it was directly stated that 1 tomoe can't use genjutsu or copying.

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    • The next episode is apparently the "climax" of the arc. Where Boruto fights kagura and Mitsuki reaches him with the scroll. I'm pretty sure that Iwabe's gonna freak out cause he has no one to fight, if he's not unconscious or "dead."

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    • Mitsuki adds mystery to the show. im constantly wondering what that kid is up to.

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    • Im jsut wondering when the Mitsuki Gaiden episode is gonna be animated. Thatsshit was awesome. Maybe after the movie arc, when he reveals Orochimaru is his father.

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    • Ravenlot 27 wrote:

      • The copying part in Sarada vs Buntan battle was the least believeable part of the fight because of the lack of the common logic. Visual-wise, it seems brilliant and even brings up the memories of part I Kakashi vs Zabuza water dragons' clash, but still, it makes no logical sense. I mean, we've never seen Sarada performing Lightning Release so far, and it obviously isn't her speciality nor battlestyle, while in Buntan's case, it should be both her speciality and battlestyle alltogether. Even if we discard the possibility of Kiba amplifying the power of the user's lightning techniques, due to Chojuro's statement about the sword being as powerful as its user is, Buntan's skills technically should've been no match for Sarada to counter them by simply copying the jutsu.

      Just because it's not her normal battlestyle, it doesn't mean she can't copy. Look at Kakashi vs Zabuza; Zabuza's specialty was water techniques. Yet Kakashi matched him, even though he was more of a Lightning guy.

      Sarada could very well have learned how to use Lightning Release to an extent by now. Sasuke learned Fire Release on a powerful scale before even entering the academy, and it's not even his affinity. Buntan's specialty was Lightning Release, sure, but Buntan isn't at the sort of level that would make copying impossible. Kakashi said he could copy techniques up to the difficulty of the Rasengan, and I doubt Buntan's techniques were that difficult it terms of complexity.

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    • Actually it's hasn't been made very clear if Sasuke's affinity is Fire or Lightning, but it seems like the latter.

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    • Elveonora wrote: Actually it's hasn't been made very clear if Sasuke's affinity is Fire or Lightning, but it seems like the latter.

      It might be either way. But to me, the fact that he learned Fire Release so early and has Amaterasu in his eyes suggests to me that his affinity is fire

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    • His type is lighting via Naruto online

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    • Elveonora wrote: Actually it's hasn't been made very clear if Sasuke's affinity is Fire or Lightning, but it seems like the latter.

      Didn't Kakashi said that he has the same affinity, when he trained him for Chidori? Or I misremember?

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    • kakashi said "the reason i trained sasuke is because he is the same type as me"while hes doing the chidori.

      chapter 113 page 7/8

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    • okay kakashi said there an reason why they here late.

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    • Marqell robertson wrote: okay kakashi said there an reason why they here late.

      The question is "If Sasuke has Lightning affinity why they are late to the Chuunin Exam", is that correct?

      If so, the answer was given a few post ago: to use Chidori Sasuke had to train his speed and reflexes. If I recall correctly, even Guy said something like "Oh, so that's why you trained him only in speed"

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    • yes

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