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  • Let's pitch the members of Team 7 together using their skills obtained from their respective Sannin masters because why not.

    Scenario 1: Naruto when he fought Pain, can only use Sage Mode, with a maximum of 2 shadow clones, equalling to a total of 3 uses. Sasuke when he fought Itachi, can only use Curse Mode, with access to both states. Sakura when she fought Kaguya, can use Hundred Strength Mode.

    Scenario 2: Same as the above, but now Sasuke have access to Sharingan and its Insight abilities.

    This is a taijutsu fight 'till the death match for the humans, since Sakura can't do long range ninjutsu. One summoning each, and limited to Toads, Snakes, and Slugs, but they are allowed to use ninjutsu. Battlefield is the Third Training Ground. All of them are starting in those modes.

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    • You might as well give Sasuke his sharingan because he would kind of need it to keep better track on what is going on and it helps him deliver better taijutsu, so it would be kind of unfair to take it away from him. If it's a taijutsu fight, well then Naruto can deliver Frog Kata blasts that would be impossible for either Sasuke or Sakura to avoid. (not sure about Sasuke, because he is somehow indirectly using NY, but i don't think he can sense it).These hits are comparable in power with Chakra Enhanced Strength.Although it wouldn't be enough to kill any of them (definitely not Sakura) it's still a hard blow that will knock them hard away.In SM, Naruto would also be the hardest one to hit, and even if he somehow gets hit, SM provides you with crazy durability (and on top of that he is an Uzumaki), so even Sakura's hits wouldn't probably get the job done. If Naruto can keep his SM for the entire battle (has shadow clones or can somehow never run out of NY), than i'm going with Naruto.If it geos down to summons, then the animal would just naturally go for one another, and let the humans fight themselves i guess, so the same thing.

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    • Naruto lol. Sasuke won't dodge more than 2 Frog kumite attacks without Sharingan. Sakura can survive fighting with both of them with her 100 healings, but I doubt she'd be able to hit them, so it's basically her taking damage constantly without being able to fight back.

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    • Vladosaurus wrote: You might as well give Sasuke his sharingan because he would kind of need it to keep better track on what is going on and it helps him deliver better taijutsu

      I don't know, I mean letting Sasuke use Sharingan seems a bit unfair to the other two since Sasuke can now predict the movements of the others.

      Vladosaurus wrote: If Naruto can keep his SM for the entire battle (has shadow clones or can somehow never run out of NY), than i'm going with Naruto.

      It's normal usage of Sage Mode, so there is a time limit. It might seem that Naruto is definitely the strongest, but compared to the other two, his mode has a time limit, so I guess it balances out. If the other two manages to let Naruto use up all his time, then it's gg for Naruto.

      Crazylazyguy wrote: Sasuke won't dodge more than 2 Frog kumite attacks without Sharingan.

      I don't think he can dodge them even with the Sharingan.

      Crazylazyguy wrote: so it's basically her taking damage constantly without being able to fight back.

      Don't forget that she can basically destroy the whole battlefield, so that might help with something.

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    • She indeed can destroy it, but this could only be used as a distraction. There's a slight chance it could work on Sasuke, but Naruto would be able to sense her if she tries to sneak from the back.

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    • Well, does Naruto have some shadow clones ready to regenerate his SM then? I mean even if he doesn't, he could just make one during the battle and sent it to gather NY. By the time he runs out of SM, that shadow clones surly gather enough NY. And it's not like the other 2 are aware of Naruto's trick.

      And i think is necessary to give Sasuke the sharingan. Even if he would be able to track the other's movements, it doesn't necessary mean that he can dodge them. He kind of needs it in order to stand a chance and be able keep track, especially since he is fighting 2 fast enemies at the same time. And even with the sharingan, he isn't really matching Naruto in any aspect of taijutsu, except maybe speed. If you take away his sharingan, you might as well take away Naruto's sensing skills, but in both case it would be impossible and unreasonable.

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    • naruto. unless this is sakura after the or during the last, she wotnt be comping with eos sm naruto. same for sasuke. u woud have to make a hypotetical eos cm lvl sasuke.

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    • Vladosaurus wrote: Well, does Naruto have some shadow clones ready to regenerate his SM then?

      Yeah I should've been more clear. So It's normal usage, which means a maximum of 2 shadow clones, equalling to a total of 3 uses if he's starting in the mode. But it appears that Naruto can now get into the mode quicker than when he fought Pain as shown against the fight between TTJ Obito.

      Vladosaurus wrote: And it's not like the other 2 are aware of Naruto's trick.

      That true.

      Vladosaurus wrote: especially since he is fighting 2 fast enemies at the same time.

      I mean, isn't Sasuke faster than Sakura though? Plus he can fly using them claw wings, so there's that.

      Vladosaurus wrote: If you take away his sharingan, you might as well take away Naruto's sensing skills,

      Good point, but then Sakura will be disadvantaged by being the only one not being able to sense attacks.

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    • Sasuke is faster than Sakura, but just because he is faster it doesn't mean he won't get hit, especially if he doesn't have the sharingan. And i wouldn't call it unfair for Sakura not being able to sense attacks. I mean those are the boy's abilities, what can you do. Sakura is also much physically stronger than them, but it doesn't mean it's unfair to the boys, right?

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    • Vladosaurus wrote: I mean those are the boy's abilities, what can you do.

      I see where you're coming from. But either it's just me, or it feels like Sasuke will have an additional ability compared to the other two, because Naruto's sensing ability is a part of Sage Mode, and Sakura's strength is a part of Hundred Strength Mode, while Sasuke's predictive ability isn't a part of Curse Mode.

      To me, it's like letting Naruto having the Negative Emotion Sensing from Kurama. Even though it doesn't increase the chance of winning by much, it's still using an ability gained from another source, which I think somewhat defeats the purpose of the debate. I guess in other words, this debate is more like if Naruto/Sasuke never had the abilities of an Uzumaki/Uchiha and can only rely on these abilities.

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    • Georgio722 wrote:

      Vladosaurus wrote: I mean those are the boy's abilities, what can you do.

      I see where you're coming from. But either it's just me, or it feels like Sasuke will have an additional ability compared to the other two, because Naruto's sensing ability is a part of Sage Mode, and Sakura's strength is a part of Hundred Strength Mode, while Sasuke's predictive ability isn't a part of Curse Mode.

      To me, it's like letting Naruto having the Negative Emotion Sensing from Kurama. Even though it doesn't increase the chance of winning by much, it's still using an ability gained from another source, which I think somewhat defeats the purpose of the debate. I guess in other words, this debate is more like if Naruto/Sasuke never had the abilities of an Uzumaki/Uchiha and can only rely on these abilities.

      Sakura's strength isn't part of the hundred healings lol. She has had it throughout the entire part 2(Shippuden) and she only unlocked byakugo during the war arc.

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    • Crazylazyguy wrote: She has had it throughout the entire part 2(Shippuden) and she only unlocked byakugo during the war arc.

      Oh true. Don't worry, I've got this sorted out. I just have to create 2 or more fight scenarios.

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    • As for it being unfair to Sakura re Naruto and Sasuke sensing oncoming attacks, it is worth noting that she has been trained to observe and anticipate an opponents moves, which we saw was very useful when she was fighting Sasori, so i dont think the boys having the sensing ability is too unfair.

      As for the above comment about Sakuras strength and the 100 Seals, despite that Sakura had her strength before the 100 seals, the 100 seals still impacts on her strength. It allows her jutsu to be stronger as well as not waste any energy.

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    • Question if we're taking away Sasukes sharingan shouldn't we take away Narutos Kurama takeing away the slight healing but letting him fuse with the two frogs.

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    • this is a completely unfair battle if naruto has SM and sakura has the hundred healing then you have to give sasuke the EMS or at least MS

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    • This is a Taijutsu battle, MS doesn't give much of anything in Taijutsu.

      SM Naruto wins. Naruto's sensing prevents them from gaining any upper hand in the form of sneak attacks, and Frog Kumite allows Naruto a massive advantage, as we saw he was able to dodge and react to the Third Raikage's fastest attack, which is much faster than both Sasuke and Sakura. We know he has a time limit, but in this battle, Naruto will be pressuring them so hard they won't be able to wait it out.

      Sasuke can predict but will have a hard time reacting to and blocking his attacks, simply because SM Naruto's speed, chakra, reaction time, stamina, perception and overall strength and durability is bolstered by Senjutsu, superior to Sasuke's Curse Mark, even if it boosts the users chakra and physical capabilities.

      Sakura can punch hard, and her 100 Sealing's will bolster her Chakra, giving a boost to her overall speed since she can probably enhance her legs with more strength. Even with Sasuke's Sharingan and Cursed Seal, in just a Taijutsu battle, Sakura will be able to contend with or even beat this Sasuke. She loses to Naruto with same reasons as above.

      Even with summons, from his battle against Pain, we know that Aoda? and Katsuyu would probably just get thrown around and won't be much against SM Naruto.

      In Taijutsu alone, SM Naruto is clearly superior in every aspect. Even with everything permitted, SM Naruto would still win.

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    • Sm Naruto majestically stomps

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    • Tinathestar wrote: As for it being unfair to Sakura re Naruto and Sasuke sensing oncoming attacks, it is worth noting that she has been trained to observe and anticipate an opponents moves, which we saw was very useful when she was fighting Sasori, so i dont think the boys having the sensing ability is too unfair.

      I think Sakura is by far the strongest of the three variants. Her weakness is lack of a variety of ninjutsu, but without that her abilities give her by far the biggest edge. One hit on Naruto and Sasuke and they're toast.

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    • </div> I think Sakura is by far the strongest of the three variants. Her weakness is lack of a variety of ninjutsu, but without that her abilities give her by far the biggest edge. One hit on Naruto and Sasuke and they're toast. </div>

      Lmao what ? Sm Naruto stomps hard, when Sakura can halt two gigantic rhinos and swing them away like fodder then she can compete with Naruto. Naruto is way too fast for her he literally point blank dodged the third raikage with sage mode no way Sakura would touch him. At some point during the fight she'll realize that getting her face broken in by Naruto and healing isn't really all that fun. As for sasuke his curse mark has no strength or speed feats all it is is that it boosts his chakra, physical, and speed attributes. And don't even get me started on summonings for Naruto. Gamkichki= GG Any of the other three toads used in the pain fight also helps in the inevitable stomping of Sakura and sasuke

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    • Naruto fell from like the top of a moutain size tip and didn't feel almost anything. As strong as Sakura can hit, she won't kill Naruto with just one punch. But as it was said before with the events of the third raikage, it's very unlikely for Naruto to get hit. And even if Sakura gets really close, Naruto can just use frog kata and knock both Sasuke and Sakura away, since they neither can see it or sense it. Maybe Sasuke could feel that something is wrong since he indirectly uses NY to power himself up, but he never displayed any sensing ability. A hit from frog kata was strong enough to kill the Preta Path BTW, so it's just as strong as Sakura's chakra enhanced punches.

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    • Abbadon616 wrote: Lmao what ? Sm Naruto stomps hard, when Sakura can halt two gigantic rhinos and swing them away like fodder then she can compete with Naruto.

      A pre-seal Sakura was able to punch the ground and it cracked like it was nothing. Hell, we've seen Tsunade use the very same seal and very same chakra-enhanced strength and she broke a Susanoo. Tsunade nearly killed Jiraiya just with a single punch. Hell, when she punched Kaguya it clearly hurt her, and she's more powerful than the Juubi or Madara. May i remind you that the juubi LITERALLY punched away a Bijudama like a fly?

      If Sakura hits Naruto in the face, there's no way the atomic puddle is going to regenerate. And there's no way that Naruto falling from a height, is comparable to breaking a susanoo.

      Byakugo Sakura may not compare to Naruto or Sasuke at full power, but she's gonna kick their asses in a taijutsu fight.

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    • Sasuke can put Sakura in a genjutsu anytime(e.g. before Naruto and Sasuke final fight), and Naruto and Sasuke were both the same strength for most of the series, and Naruto can defeat sakura easily even without ninetails.

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    • Kakarots wrote: Sasuke can put Sakura in a genjutsu anytime

      Except the OP made it clear that it's just taijutsu.

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    • Thekillman wrote: Byakugo Sakura may not compare to Naruto or Sasuke at full power, but she's gonna kick their asses in a taijutsu fight.

      She may be beating Sasuke (and that's a big may be), but she's definitely not beating Naruto. Strength is meaningless if you can't hit your opponent. SM Naruto can dance around Sakura while continuously dealing sufficient damage

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    • Thekillman wrote:

      Abbadon616 wrote: Lmao what ? Sm Naruto stomps hard, when Sakura can halt two gigantic rhinos and swing them away like fodder then she can compete with Naruto.

      A pre-seal Sakura was able to punch the ground and it cracked like it was nothing. Hell, we've seen Tsunade use the very same seal and very same chakra-enhanced strength and she broke a Susanoo. Tsunade nearly killed Jiraiya just with a single punch. Hell, when she punched Kaguya it clearly hurt her, and she's more powerful than the Juubi or Madara. May i remind you that the juubi LITERALLY punched away a Bijudama like a fly?

      If Sakura hits Naruto in the face, there's no way the atomic puddle is going to regenerate. And there's no way that Naruto falling from a height, is comparable to breaking a susanoo.

      Byakugo Sakura may not compare to Naruto or Sasuke at full power, but she's gonna kick their asses in a taijutsu fight.

      Do you not know what pis is ? Plot induced stupidity is the only reason Sakura with no so6p powers even hurt kaguya lmao. Try again

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    • Also she nevertheless hurt her she just moved her same way boruto s rasengan moved momoshiki

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    • Debunking101 wrote: Do you not know what pis is ? Plot induced stupidity is the only reason Sakura with no so6p powers even hurt kaguya lmao. Try again

      "Sakura suks" "but she objectively contributed" "LMAO it's plot".

      Sure.

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    • Taijutsu only? It comes down to Sakura and Naruto. Naruto's Frog Kata and Sage sensing will let him just dodge most of what she throws, and he's got tremendous strength and whatnot too. She'll heal for awhile, but I think Naruto will tag her enough.

      It'd probably actually be a close call, if Naruto can finish the job before he runs out of Sage Mode.

      If Sasuke has his Sharingan, it's more even between the three but he has neither the strength to deal enough damage to a Sage or a HSM user nor the stamina to outlast either.

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    • Wasn't Sasuke with his curse mark in top taijutsu form for like the whole part 2, except for after he got six paths chakra? I mean the curse mark increased almost everything taijutsu is about: strength, speed, reflexes. After he lost his curse mark and obtained MS/EMS, i don't think he was as good in taijutsu as he was in full curse mark 2.

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    • Thekillman wrote:

      Debunking101 wrote: Do you not know what pis is ? Plot induced stupidity is the only reason Sakura with no so6p powers even hurt kaguya lmao. Try again

      "Sakura suks" "but she objectively contributed" "LMAO it's plot".

      Sure.

      Then explain how someone with no so6p powers was able to move kaguya ? PIS plot induced stupidity. Also kaguya did not show signs of pain at all she was only moved, her being “hurt” is your own headcanon

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    • I think in first Scenario Naruto should take it with difficulty. Single Rasenshuriken should take care of Sakura. Problem is CM Sasuke, he is skilled as hell with Kirin-Manda he is the biggest wall Naruto would face here though its difficult to say how well Gamabunta would fare against Manda(I am assuming Gamakichi is still kid, If not he would be more than enough to take on Manda since he too has Sage mode)Though lack of Sharingan should hinder Sasuke a lot.....
      Second scenario if Sasuke sets up Kirin neither of them should survive( I don't know how well Rasenshuriken fare against Kirin, Probably it could tank hit) Naruto's collaboration ninjutsu would have devastating effect over other two. Again Sasuke should be the main wall(though I don't see him dodging the Rasenshuriken) pretty much Naruto take this with High difficulty.

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    • Namikazenaruto9 wrote: I think in first Scenario Naruto should take it with difficulty. Single Rasenshuriken should take care of Sakura. Problem is CM Sasuke, he is skilled as hell with Kirin-Manda he is the biggest wall Naruto would face here though its difficult to say how well Gamabunta would fare against Manda(I am assuming Gamakichi is still kid, If not he would be more than enough to take on Manda since he too has Sage mode)Though lack of Sharingan should hinder Sasuke a lot.....
      Second scenario if Sasuke sets up Kirin neither of them should survive( I don't know how well Rasenshuriken fare against Kirin, Probably it could tank hit) Naruto's collaboration ninjutsu would have devastating effect over other two. Again Sasuke should be the main wall(though I don't see him dodging the Rasenshuriken) pretty much Naruto take this with High difficulty.

      I'd mostly agree, except it's a taijutsu only fight

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    • Debunking101 wrote: Then explain how someone with no so6p powers was able to move kaguya ? PIS plot induced stupidity.

      We've seen that such punches are powerful enough to break Susanoo, meaning that it does considerable damage. She may be immune to ninjutsu, but as Guy demonstrated, taijutsu works just fine.

      Judging by the angle, Sakura was in her Byakugan blindspot, hence she didn't see it coming. And it was already established twice that she didn't even consider her a threat worth taking out. So no, it's actually a very reasonable action that worked within the established framework.

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    • Thekillman wrote: Judging by the angle, Sakura was in her Byakugan blindspot, hence she didn't see it coming.

      Sakura was not completely in Kaguya's blindspot. Kaguya ought to have detected her. But, aside from that, there's nothing wrong with that scene

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    • AsianReaper wrote: I'd mostly agree, except it's a taijutsu only fight

      I didn't read taijutsu part.
      In that case this fight is mostly between Sakura and Naruto. Sasuke's stamina is too low with CM+Sharingan and much weaker in comparison to either two.
      Frog Kata might be stronger than Sakura's punch considering that Son Goku told him not to kill him by going overboard. Perhaps a concentrated Frog Kata could do some massive damage.

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    • Thekillman wrote:

      Debunking101 wrote: Then explain how someone with no so6p powers was able to move kaguya ? PIS plot induced stupidity.

      We've seen that such punches are powerful enough to break Susanoo, meaning that it does considerable damage. She may be immune to ninjutsu, but as Guy demonstrated, taijutsu works just fine.

      Judging by the angle, Sakura was in her Byakugan blindspot, hence she didn't see it coming. And it was already established twice that she didn't even consider her a threat worth taking out. So no, it's actually a very reasonable action that worked within the established framework.

      I'm not arguing that she even hit her I'm saying without so6p powers Sakura should break her fists from hitting kaguya who is the strongest character in the series. I mean do you seriously want to argue tsunade breaking rib cage susanoo is comparable to Sakura moving the God of the Naruto verse ? PIS is a real thing, such things as Naruto instead of blocking sasuke's susanoo arrows with tsb he simply chucked it at the arrows, reason being those make Naruto hax as f***. Nevertheless Sakura wouldn't even be able to touch Naruto and cm sasuke is in no way comparable to sage Naruto

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    • UltimaDude wrote: Kaguya ought to have detected her.

      Assuming she could. We saw that Naruto's and Sasuke's seals glowed noticeably in her vision. Considering Naruto's massive chakra and nature energy, Sakura may have been completely eclipsed in Kaguya's senses. Like trying to see a match next to a campfire.

      Abbadon616 wrote: I'm not arguing that she even hit her I'm saying without so6p powers Sakura should break her fists from hitting kaguya who is the strongest character in the series.

      If she broke her fists, they would've been healed instantly. Secondly, Madara was completely unable to move when battered by Guy, yet he suffered no visible, so evidently taijutsu still exerts a force on it's target, and that is considerable compared to their ability to fly even though they don't get damage. it's ninjutsu that gets absorbed with no conservation of inertia.

      In other words, Guy demonstrated you could punch a TTJ back, with an impact below their damage threshold. Sakura did the same. She didn't have to hurt Kaguya, just momentarily contain her.

      Also, breaking a susanoo, means they're stronger than Shukaku's Desert Layer Imperial Funeral (i think that was the right name), stronger than pure lightning.

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    • Thekillman wrote: Assuming she could. We saw that Naruto's and Sasuke's seals glowed noticeably in her vision. Considering Naruto's massive chakra and nature energy, Sakura may have been completely eclipsed in Kaguya's senses. Like trying to see a match next to a campfire.

      That is really reaching.

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    • Thekillman wrote:

      Abbadon616 wrote: Lmao what ? Sm Naruto stomps hard, when Sakura can halt two gigantic rhinos and swing them away like fodder then she can compete with Naruto.

      A pre-seal Sakura was able to punch the ground and it cracked like it was nothing. Hell, we've seen Tsunade use the very same seal and very same chakra-enhanced strength and she broke a Susanoo. Tsunade nearly killed Jiraiya just with a single punch. Hell, when she punched Kaguya it clearly hurt her, and she's more powerful than the Juubi or Madara. May i remind you that the juubi LITERALLY punched away a Bijudama like a fly?

      If Sakura hits Naruto in the face, there's no way the atomic puddle is going to regenerate. And there's no way that Naruto falling from a height, is comparable to breaking a susanoo.

      Byakugo Sakura may not compare to Naruto or Sasuke at full power, but she's gonna kick their asses in a taijutsu fight.

      Lol you just said she hurt her here now you’re saying contain ? Moving her doesn’t equate to hurt man. Sakura feat of moving kaguya is pis due to the fact that we know she can’t flick away a bijudama but could still move kaguya.

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    • UltimaDude wrote: That is really reaching.

      It's an aspect that never really got explained. Sensing by itself never really got explained. Like, is there a certain resolution you can see at? Naruto was clearly overwhelmed by sensing the Juubi, and so was the sensing sphere. Would it then be possible to notice something small next to something big?

      Sure, it doesn't have a lot of foreshadowing here, nor a lot of explanation, but that trend fits the entire 4th war.

      Debunking101 wrote: Lol you just said she hurt her here now you’re saying contain ?

      I don't get why you're putting so much focus on the least relevant part of my post.

      Debunking101 wrote: Moving her doesn’t equate to hurt man. Sage naruto fell from a cliff and hit stalagmites and brushed it off, he’s surviving that fall. Sakura feat of moving kaguya is pis due to the fact that we know she can’t flick away a bijudama but could still move kaguya.

      It doesn't matter if she hurt her or whatever. All that matters is that the movement threshold is lower than the injure threshold, something that got demonstrated by Guy vs Madara perfectly.

      I don't get what Naruto falling off some spikes has to do with this. We've seen Susanoo break from Tsunade's punch, yet we've seen Susanoo tank powerful attacks with ease, including actual lightning. In other words, Sakura's punch was pretty goddamn powerful. And as got demonstrated against Madara as well, taijutsu works just fine.

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    • Thekillman wrote: It's an aspect that never really got explained. Sensing by itself never really got explained. Like, is there a certain resolution you can see at? Naruto was clearly overwhelmed by sensing the Juubi, and so was the sensing sphere. Would it then be possible to notice something small next to something big?

      Sure, it doesn't have a lot of foreshadowing here, nor a lot of explanation, but that trend fits the entire 4th war.

      Dude, I feel like you are making excuses here. Naruto was still able to sense Kurama's chakra which is miniscule in comparison to the Juubi's. Momoshiki was still able to see Boruto's chakra, which is very miniscule in comoarison to Kurama's chakra. So Kaguya shoukd have seen Sakura coming from above. But aside from that, I don't have any problems with Sakura taking her off-guard

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    • UltimaDude wrote: Dude, I feel like you are making excuses here.

      I'm just trying to explain why. It's not the first time people got caught offguard like that. Besides, we've seen that sensing takes effort and can be countered (e.g. karin during 5 kage summit), as we have seen that e.g. Madara was surprised by Naruto kicking his Gudodama despite having a Sage Mode and sensing. Meaning that if Kaguya wasn't expecting the strike, she wouldn't have been doing the sensing to detect it. The fact that Naruto was using clones and transformations to confuse her, and that it was working, suggests she was already failing to keep up. Sneaking someone into the attack that she previously considered unworthy of her attention makes sense.

      My point is, i guess, that the concept of sensing isn't really consistent, sometimes it's active and sometimes it's passive, and it can be weird.

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    • Thekillman wrote:

      UltimaDude wrote: Dude, I feel like you are making excuses here.

      I'm just trying to explain why. It's not the first time people got caught offguard like that. Besides, we've seen that sensing takes effort and can be countered (e.g. karin during 5 kage summit), as we have seen that e.g. Madara was surprised by Naruto kicking his Gudodama despite having a Sage Mode and sensing. Meaning that if Kaguya wasn't expecting the strike, she wouldn't have been doing the sensing to detect it. The fact that Naruto was using clones and transformations to confuse her, and that it was working, suggests she was already failing to keep up. Sneaking someone into the attack that she previously considered unworthy of her attention makes sense.

      My point is, i guess, that the concept of sensing isn't really consistent, sometimes it's active and sometimes it's passive, and it can be weird.

      What about her Perfect Byakugan?

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    • Namikazenaruto9 wrote: What about her Perfect Byakugan?

      Naruto fooled her with his shadowclones by passing the Gudodama to another, so clearly her vision isn't perfect.

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    • Thekillman wrote: My point is, i guess, that the concept of sensing isn't really consistent, sometimes it's active and sometimes it's passive, and it can be weird.

      The Byakugan isn't sensing-based, it's vision. It has been consistebtly portrayed throughout the series. It's vision. Sakura wasn't compeletely in Kaguya's Byakugan blindspot, therefore Kaguya should have seen Sakura coming. Again, I have no problems with Sakura catching Kaguya, off-guard, so there's no reaaon for you to point out instances in where people have been caught off-guard. It's just that, based on how the Byakugan works, Sakura shouldn't have been able to hit Kaguya directly above her

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    • She was distracted by naruto-sasuke,the same way kinshiki was not paying attention when tsuchikage hit him.

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    • Kaguya was clearly confused and didn't know what to do. She was questioning herself on what dimension to go, as she initially wanted to to to the Ice Dimension, but, by her own words, it would've been useless since Sasuke possessed amaterasu. She was confused, and didn't pay attention to Sakura who was coming from above. It's not a matter of sensing or seeing it coming. She just didn't know what to do and got lost in her own thoughts.

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    • Let's take the challenge on and mix a bit of humor

      Sasuke instantly loses because he is afraid of Sakura, heck he can even lose against Sarada lmao

      Naruto using Talk no Jutsu: Fighting against your nakama BAD BAD BAD!!!!!

      Sakura cries: G-gomen Naruto-kun!! Please forgive me because every villain who cries must be forgiven!!

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    • Vladosaurus wrote: Kaguya was clearly confused and didn't know what to do. She was questioning herself on what dimension to go, as she initially wanted to to to the Ice Dimension, but, by her own words, it would've been useless since Sasuke possessed amaterasu. She was confused, and didn't pay attention to Sasuke who was coming from above. It's not a matter of sensing or seeing it coming. She just didn't know what to do and got lost in her own thoughts.

      Yeah, no. She displayed no confusion, only distress but she was still rational. The Byakugan gives the user a nearly 360 degree-vision, while having a blind spot from somewhere in the neck area. Kaguya had her Byakugan active and Sakura wasn't completely in her blindspot, therefore Kaguya should have seen Sakura

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    • The killman

      Naruto sm> Sakura

      Tsunade> Sakura

      Tsunade breaking a “rib cage” susanoo not full one is her feat. So don’t use it to justify Sakura being stronger than naruto. Sage mode naruto > Tsunade due to him beating pain

      Not even arguing about moving her, I’m saying you said she injured her when Sakura clearly didn’t. Sakura won’t even be able to touch naruto so it’s pretty clear who wins

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