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  • this statement is a bit misleading since the Otsutsuki clan clearly already had access to chakra=, and kaguya already had some type of energy based power before eating the fruit. chakra is the combination of physical and spiritual energy humans already had that energy hagoromo using ninshu only taught them how to merge the energies that already existed in them. the way i see it is the god tree isn't the actual origin of chakra and that the god tree didn't actually have chakra nor did the chakra fruit actually contain chakra but an imense level of natural energy. kaguya and the otsutsuki clan already possessed the ability to use said energies its just that when kaguya ate the fruit she gained a godlike level of natural energy that exponentially boosted her natural levels of physical and spiritual energies the way i see it is that the tree is more of a parasitic life form that consumes natural energy to survive.

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    • Actionmanrandell wrote: this statement is a bit misleading since the Otsutsuki clan clearly already had access to chakra=, and kaguya already had some type of energy based power before eating the fruit.

      Anime-only feats don't count

      Actionmanrandell wrote: chakra is the combination of physical and spiritual energy humans already had that energy hagoromo using ninshu only taught them how to merge the energies that already existed in them.

      How can humans combine their physical and spiritual energy? By Chakra, given by hagoromo, son of Kaguya who ate the chakra fruit.

      Actionmanrandell wrote: the way i see it is the god tree isn't the actual origin of chakra and that the god tree didn't actually have chakra nor did the chakra fruit actually contain chakra but an imense level of natural energy. kaguya and the otsutsuki clan already possessed the ability to use said energies its just that when kaguya ate the fruit she gained a godlike level of natural energy that exponentially boosted her natural levels of physical and spiritual energies

      Your personal Canon is not the series canon. Again, Anime-only feats don't count.

      Actionmanrandell wrote: the way i see it is that the tree is more of a parasitic life form that consumes natural energy to survive.

      Might be, most likely seeing what happened to Momoshinki's planet.

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    • Nope2937 wrote: Anime-only feats don't count

      Even in the Manga-canon they came here somehow. The Boruto movie implies how: The Otsutsuki already had access to a Shinju and processed into the chakra pills. We don't know if Momoshiki's planet is the otsutsuki homeworld or not, but it seems pretty much confirmed to me that the Otsutsuki had their own, processed it and used it to travel the galaxy. Which is why Kaguya was forbidden from harvesting it, and why she feared others once she took it.

      Thus yes, it's entirely possible that Kaguya already had access to chakra, simply not as innate power. But the Shiju is still the origin of all chakra, even if the Shinobi world's one wasn't the first to be the origin.

      NOTE: the alternative to the Otsutsuki having their own Shinju is rockets, and i have yet to see an Otsutsuki spaceship.

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    • Thekillman wrote: Even in the Manga-canon they came here somehow. The Boruto movie implies how: The Otsutsuki already had access to a Shinju and processed into the chakra pills. We don't know if Momoshiki's planet is the otsutsuki homeworld or not, but it seems pretty much confirmed to me that the Otsutsuki had their own, processed it and used it to travel the galaxy. Which is why Kaguya was forbidden from harvesting it, and why she feared others once she took it.

      Thus yes, it's entirely possible that Kaguya already had access to chakra, simply not as innate power. But the Shiju is still the origin of all chakra, even if the Shinobi world's one wasn't the first to be the origin.

      NOTE: the alternative to the Otsutsuki having their own Shinju is rockets, and i have yet to see an Otsutsuki spaceship.

      Why spaceship? they could have access to some weird alien teleportation device in their homeworld XD

      having access to shinju still means that chakra originated from the chakra fruit/shinju, instead of otsutsuki naturally has access to it.

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    • Nope2937 wrote: having access to shinju still means that chakra originated from the chakra fruit/shinju, instead of otsutsuki naturally has access to it.

      Which is exactly my point. Chakra did originate from the Shinju. It's just not necessarily true that the Shinobi World Shinju was the first to grant chakra. Upon eating the fruit Kaguya was the first to naturally possess Chakra, as the other otsutsuki processed it into pills.

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