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  • Team-8 and team-10 's sensei Vs Leaf's hot blooded duos(as Guy would put it ;-)). I believe the two teams have deep history especially as working as a team. How would the two fare against each other?
    EDIT: Guy is Restricted to 6th or 7th gate depending on difficulty. Kakashi is as he was in shippuden that is he has MS.

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    • Is this Kakashi and Guy at their strongest or is Kakashi restricted to MS and Guy 7 gates? But, even so, Kurenai and Asuma get wrecked badly. Sadly for Kurenai, she hardly has any good feats. Asuma is pretty good, but nothing Kakashi and Guy can't handle. This is an unfair battle. Maybe if it the roles were switched like Kurenai and Guy vs. Asuma and Kakashi, then that would be more of a match that could go anyway.

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    • I think battle is quite fair considering guy has only trained for countering visual genjutsu. And I added the restriction as they are supposed to be (though I assumed Guy would open gates based on his own self rule which would directly imply that he won't open the gate of death.)

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    • well, with out sharingan (or them noticing the genjutsu), team guy would get caught in a genjutsu and then killed by asuma. but that would never happen, since asuma himself is easily stronger than both kakashi and guy at base (he would be bellow or around kakashi's sharingan lvl, and around guy's 5th gate, which is pretty good). if either asuma or kurenai get caught in a genjutsu, the other can release them, but since kurenai's genjutsu isn't limited to one person (like kakashi), she could try and get both kakashi and guy at the same time, while asuma attacks. kakashi would get out of it fast enough to defend against asuma, but guy would be in danger, which would force kakashi to go ms, and try and suck guy, asuma, or kurenai into kamui, which would himself in danger as well, so I guess team guy has to start with ms and 6th gate to win at all, imo.

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    • I wouldn't say is Asuma easily stronger than Kakashi and Guy in base. He definitely would be below Sharingan Kakashi and below 5th gates Guy. Despite his abilities shown against Hidan, he has no very high feats to say he is on their level overall. And we already know Kakashi can see through her genjutsu with the Sharingan. I would be very cautious to believe that her genjutsu is on par with Itachi, despite what the databooks say, though I believe they are high. Even in the anime, her genjutsu didn't seem that impressive.

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    • Kakashi and Guy have way too many feats compared to the other two (mostly cus they're more "main characters").

      Based on what we've seen alone, Kakashi is more capable than both separately, and the same goes for Guy. So both of them together shouldn't be too difficult for Kakashi and Guy together.

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    • Well what abt Asuma burning them to crisp like he did in 4th great ninja war?
      Or Asuma's Wind release chakra blade trumping kakashi's raikiri kunai?
      Or that weird jutsu he used on Hidan? That isn't going to be walk in the park. I believe Asuma is stronger than kakashi(even if its slightly).

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    • Namikazenaruto9 wrote: I believe Asuma is stronger than kakashi(even if its slightly).

      ^This. I couldn't disagree more.

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    • lol not really, asuma was fighting both hidan and kakuzo at one point. when did kakashi do that? (at the same time). asuma is easily sha kakashi and 5th gate guy lvl, but not equal to ms and 6th kakashi and guy.

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    • @Lorenzo

      Umm Asuma only fought Hidan. The only interaction Asuma had with Kakuzu was when he got bitch slapped by a suitcase, and was kneed by him. If you want to count that as a fight then sure, but it was not at the same time. Kakashi was able to fight Hidan and Kakuzu back to back while protecting Team Asuma. The only reason Asuma got to pull off his move was because of Shikamaru, just saying.

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    • Asuma didn't know a single thing about his enemies, and he was acting rashly because they killed his best friend. If he was more level headed and actually knew who they were he would have stood a much better chance and have done better.

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    • @QuakingStar

      I have to disagree due to the fact I didn't see him acting rash in any way. I'm sure he was upset about Chiriku's death, but nothing from his battle says that he wasn't in the right state of mind.

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    • okay then. call me when u see either kakashi actually fighting kakuzo (at all, at any point in time), or when kakashi wins against hidan (kinda like asuma did). and then talk bout shikamaru. im just gonna "say" as well, since shika got freaking frozen while asuma wan getting killed out there (by both hidan and kakuzo). ps I have to comment as well that kakashi didn't injure hidan at all, while asuma did, and quite a few times.

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    • How bout you call me when you can get your facts straight. Asuma only landed an attack with help from Shikamaru. Kakuzu literally stood on the sidelines until Hidan got his head cut off, so I don't know what you mean that Asuma fought both of them at the same time. Plus Asuma was defeated by Kakuzu without any effort, but that was due to Asuma being severely injured by Hidan. Kakashi might not have not injured Hidan, but Asuma only did so with help from Shikamaru so your point is invalid. But, Kakashi surely held his own against both of them while also protecting Team Asuma.

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    • Alright first I want a link to the fight where Asuma fought both Hidan and Kakazu (At The Same TIME!) cause I never seen that before.

      And Asuma is no way in Hell on 5th gate Guy level period, unless you guys have feats?

      Anywhy I vote Team Guy & Kakashi

      Guy can body Asuma with easy and Kakashi should be capable of handling Kurenai. Guy & Kakashi have feats higher then both of them and I'm not dissing them it's just a natural fact.

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    • @rachin, like I said, shika was usless at a certain point, which is by coincidence, the same moment that asuma landed his attacks on hidan (a shuriken at first, then he cut his head off, which I might look into later, since shika might've helped him with the last one), and if kakuzo only stood by the sidelines until asuma cut hidan's head of, then how asuma only get injured after hidan had activated the curse? (which is when asuma gets hit by hidan's thingy, right after he gets kicked in the head by kakuzo). and like I said before, kakashi never, ever fought them both at the same time, since he had help from shika fighting vs hidan first, then help from choji and ino vs kakuzo (since shika was in the woods with hidan). @lordgriffin, I must add something to 5th gate guy: nobody has ever seen guy in 5th gate before, so this affects us both (he might be weaker than u think, and stronger than I thought). I forgot to say before, but I also now that team guy wins. im just saving team asuma's a little bit. and yeah, if kurenai and asuma were in the war, they might've gotten stronger, with better feats and shit, and the war might've even ended faster.

      edit ps. u were right in the head thing. hidan's head was cut off cuz he was in shika's shadow. question: is asuma's usage of the monk jutsu thingy cannon or not? like, is it in the manga?

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    • Yes Kakashi never fought both of them at the same time but neither did Asuma.

      We may never have seen 5th gate Guy but we have seen what it did for Lee so we have a gist of what will happen when Guy uses it

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    • but we really cant compare lee to asuma though, nor to guy. they are leagues apart from lee. he would need to full power at his 4th war shape to go against asuma, imo. the one thing I tried using as comparison was when guy went 6th gate vs kisame (1st time, btw) and he was at least 3 times stronger than that kisame, who was actually a clone that only had 30% of his power, which makes guy in this case, 90% of kisame's power in his 6th gate. I would say that 5th gate guy is from 50%-70% of kisame's power (in my speculation), then I thought to myself: could asuma defeat 50% kisame? probably. now, could asuma defeat kisame at 70%? not really. well, that's what I got.

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    • I never said Lee was comparable to either of them, I said look how powerful it made Lee so you can imagine how strong Guy will become.

      Also you forget that their was a timeskip, the Kisame Guy fought in Shippuden is not the same one Asuma fought in Part 1 Naruto even if it was 30%, in two years anything can happen.

      Guy is on Kakashi's league the same Kakashi who unlike Asuma fought Hidan and Kakasu (not at the same time) better then Asuma fought Hidan.

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    • Asuma needed shikamarus help just to be able to barely cut his head off.Kakashi was keeping up with hidan and was tricking him WHILE he was dodging kakauzus attacks.Kakashi or guy can solo this.

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    • Kakashisologod1 wrote: Asuma needed shikamarus help just to be able to barely cut his head off.Kakashi was keeping up with hidan and was tricking him WHILE he was dodging kakauzus attacks.Kakashi or guy can solo this.

      Kakashi had proper intel about Hidan and a proper plan to beat the two thanks to shikamaru. And the blow which Hidan gave Asuma was non-fatal if you think about it. The only reason he died was because Hidan gave him fatal injuries with his jutsu but even than he took him down. I think that counts for something.
      I think Kurenai and Asuma's team is really well balanced especially if we consider the team has pretty much no weakness. Infact Kurenai's proficiency with genjutsu was said to be best in Konoha that is better than kakashi I believe.

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    • Kakashi never was using genjutus,really rarely.No,he had no intel about kakauzu who was stronger than hidan.Kakashi also had to protect entire team asuma and saved them multiple times.Kakashi had intel about hidan,asuma had his entire team help.Overall,kakashi ended up with much better results,while having to worry about ino/cho/shika too.

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    • Kakashisologod1 wrote:

      No,he had no intel about kakauzu who was stronger than hidan.
      I never said that. I said that they had a plan to neutralize kakazu with hidan's jutsu.

      Kakashisologod1 wrote: Kakashi also had to protect entire team asuma and saved them multiple times.Kakashi had intel about hidan,asuma had his entire team help.Overall,kakashi ended up with much better results,while having to worry about ino/cho/shika too.

      Ino made an excess move their on her own. The plan was to keep ino behind and besides She could have used kakuzu to take down hidan or hidan to take down kakuzu using her mind transfer. Kakashi had lot of options and better subordinates unlike the time when Asuma fought. Plus he had back up team coming.

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    • Back up team coming is not the same as them actually being there.What is your point?Kakashi overhelmed hidan and was on par with kakuzu in tajjutsu.Asuma couldnt do either of those.

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    • @Namikaze

      Ino's mind transfer sucked at that time. She would have never been able to control Hidan nor Kakuzu for very long at all. Shikamaru barely could hold onto Hidan. Choji damn near got defeated within the first five minutes of the fight. Ino stood behind a tree. And Shikamaru was running for than half of the battle. So if you call that a great backup, then something is wrong. Kakashi could battle Hidan and Kakuzu back to back, while avoiding the masks and protecting Team Asuma on several occasions.

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    • so u want to give kakashi some kudos on getting kakuzo from behind, while hidan was being locked up by shika's shadows? (which makes kakuzo weaker by the way). and when did kakashi ever actually help team asuma, for real? when choji got body slammed into that tree, shika was the one that saved him, (the only actual save that kakashi did was against kakuzo's lighting release thingy, which was only feasible cuz hidan was fighting shika at the time).

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    • When he blocked lighting style,entire tajjutsu fight and other things.

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    • what entire taijutsu fight? like I said I billion times before, kakashi didn't even fight kakuzo, and he much less fought hidan by himself. his feats are better than asuma's of course, but that doesn't make him better.

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    • @Lorenzo 1st

      Some of the stuff that happened in the anime, didn't happen in the manga. But, it did happen. It doesn't contradict anything. Kakashi did fight Hidan in a taijutsu battle and kept up easier than Asuma who had help in trying to face him. He also had a taijutsu battle with Kakuzu, and yes Kakuzu's masks weren't all attacking Kakashi, but that doesn't much matter as we are talking about how well he held himself together while back to back against these guys, while Asuma only fought Hidan and died because of it, even with help from Shikamaru. Also, no one said Kakashi protected Team Asuma every time, but that he did. Asuma was lucky to not even have fought Kakuzu too because he would've gotten defeated much faster. And you make no sense. You say that Kakashi has better feats than Asuma, but doesn't make him better. You just contradicted your own statement.

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    • @Rachin123
      I don't think Asuma was lucky at all. The guy was already in Hidan's jutsu and had suffered heavy damage by the time Shikamaru had even figured his jutsu out. So no kakashi's feat wasn't impressive.
      Like I said before Kakashi was with a much better squad( a medic and better taijutsu fighter) which had proper formulated strategy(counter measures from shikamaru). Whereas Asuma and Shikamaru were the only significant player in Asuma's team. The other two didn't do anything special other than try to delay the inevitable.

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    • and kakashi had sharingan on side in all those fights as well. and didn't mean to make u think that I was gonna contradict myself. I meant better feats overall-wise, and from this one specific battle. and asuma had hidan be inside his curse thingy all most 2/3 of the fight. in the kakashi fight, the symbol wasn't even made

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: and kakashi had sharingan on side in all those fights as well. and didn't mean to make u think that I was gonna contradict myself. I meant better feats overall-wise, and from this one specific battle. and asuma had hidan be inside his curse thingy all most 2/3 of the fight. in the kakashi fight, the symbol wasn't even made

      The symbol was not made duo to hidan not being able to hit kakashi.

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    • @Namikaze

      I wasn't saying Asuma was lucky overall, but that he was lucky Kakuzu didn't join the fight too.

      Why are you even talking about Ino (the medic) when she didn't even do anything medical related until Naruto and company came. As for the better taijutsu fighter, it didn't matter. As for Izumo and Kotetsu not playing a bigger part in the fight against Hidan, it was because they were told by Asuma to protect him. They were doing their job. Though they really didn't need to as Kakuzu never joined the fight and Asuma was keeping Hidan away from them for the majority of the fight.

      @Lorenzo 1st

      So what if Kakashi had the Sharingan. It's not we are talking about base Kakashi. This is MS Kakashi. As for the curse technique, Hidan couldn't cut Kakashi, but was able to cut Asuma. That says it all.

      At this point I have nothing more to say as you guys have yet to disprove my points.

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    • nah dip. but that's like saying that shika is better at taijutsu than asuma, since he didn't get hit either. and like a lot of people have said, asuma had no idea bout the jutsu. that's enough info to even let shika beat hidan by himself, like it happened.

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    • Knowing about the jutsu doesn't change the fact that you are not suppose to get hit anyway. Also, Shikamaru never really got into a close confrontation with Hidan. The only time he got up close is when he swung at Hidan to pull off his Shadow Possession Technique, and part of that success was due to Hidan being distracted by his shadow. Clearly you are desperate to try to delay the inevitable. Asuma can't beat either Kakashi or Guy period. And it's so funny that Kurenai has hardly been mentioned in your arguments when she's also fighting here too.

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    • lol u know what's even funnier? is that if u had read some of my previous commetns, u would've known that ik that team asuma loses. im just being generous lol. trying to be as smartass didn't work, now did it? lol

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    • The way you defended these opponents seemed desperate, which makes it hard to believe you truly believe they lose. Being generous as you said, is just delaying the inevitable. That Kurenai and Asuma would lose the battle in the end.

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    • yes, ik. its just u seem to reaaaaallllyyy lowball team asuma.

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    • Not lowballing. Stating facts. I'm sure Kurenai and Asuma would give a good fight, but nothing more than mid difficulty in my opinion. Kakashi won't need to use the MS or Guy won't need to use anything more than 5 gates.

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    • if guy used only 5th gate and kakashi used only basic sha, then they can probably lose (its a 50/50 thing). either guy goes 6th gate, or kakashi uses ms. then, they can win 100% of times.

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    • I'm sorry I have to disagree. Not a 50/50 chance at all. Even if Kakashi and Guy don't use the MS or more than 5 gates, there is at the very least a 75% chance they win. There is a 99.9% chance they win with anything more based on feats and valid powerscaling.

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    • but that's the thing. we have NNOO feats for 5th gate guy. he may as well be weaker than asuma, or as strong as ms kakashi.. see my point.

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    • Noooo. What we have is Lee in 5th gates to scale him over. So if he was Lee's level in 5 gates, he'd still be more than enough for Asuma. But, seeing as he's apparently superior to Lee, he'd be at least twice as stronger than Lee in 5 gates. Do you see my point?

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    • do u mean lee in shippuden, or pts? (we only saw lee in action once before, while using the gates. vs gaara). if he is 2 times stronger than pts 5th gate lee, he would still lose then. but if ur talking bout shippuden lee, then he will be stronger (probably).

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    • Lee in 5 gates in Part I will destroy Asuma. Lee superior to Asuma in speed without weights. So how the heck do you suppose he can keep up with him in 5 gates? Unless you have some feats to compare Asuma's speed with Lee's. I'll wait. And like I said, I'm powerscaling and making the best logical guess for how strong Guy is in 5 gates, and at as powerful as Lee in 5 gates, and that is lowballing.

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    • Rachin123 wrote: Lee in 5 gates in Part I will destroy Asuma. Lee superior to Asuma in speed without weights. So how the heck do you suppose he can keep up with him in 5 gates? Unless you have some feats to compare Asuma's speed with Lee's. I'll wait. And like I said, I'm powerscaling and making the best logical guess for how strong Guy is in 5 gates, and at as powerful as Lee in 5 gates, and that is lowballing.

      I don't think so. That weird monk's jutsu that he used against hidan coupled with a wind laced chakra blade should kill lee really easily.
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    • Asuma is a strategic fighter with very nice techs.. if there was no plot induced reason for him to die he would not have died. Lee's only hope to last in a fight against him is to use the 5th Gate and up, Kakuzu referred to Dan and Asuma as gold and silver generals, a shogi term... Kakuzu was 90 year old so if he himself gave Asuma that praise that means something. Lee is def a beast and with 6th Gate I see him winning barely. His Wind Release: Dust Cloud Technique is a one hit kill apparently "This technique creates a stream of high-velocity wind containing dust particles, capable of decimating anything caught in it in only a matter of moments. The completed technique is directed through vertically overlapped hands that are placed in front of the user's mouth after forming the necessary hand seals." Seeing as how Ino made it a top priority to save Choji from it, so I would say if he lands that on Lee it is over.

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    • QuakingStar wrote: Asuma is a strategic fighter with very nice techs.. if there was no plot induced reason for him to die he would not have died. Lee's only hope to last in a fight against him is to use the 5th Gate and up, Kakuzu referred to Dan and Asuma as gold and silver generals, a shogi term... Kakuzu was 90 year old so if he himself gave Asuma that praise that means something. Lee is def a beast and with 6th Gate I see him winning barely. His Wind Release: Dust Cloud Technique is a one hit kill apparently "This technique creates a stream of high-velocity wind containing dust particles, capable of decimating anything caught in it in only a matter of moments. The completed technique is directed through vertically overlapped hands that are placed in front of the user's mouth after forming the necessary hand seals." Seeing as how Ino made it a top priority to save Choji from it, so I would say if he lands that on Lee it is over.

      Seriously,plot is just annoying sometimes...

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    • Asuma fought Hidan with two battle-capable Chunin and the useful Shikamaru with his shadow abilities. They ONLY fought Hidan, and they barely won against him before Kakuzu bailed him out.

      Kakashi fought Hidan and 2 or 3 of Kakuzu's hearts at the same time, and still managed to make it back to save team 10 a couple times. That battle was basically him and Shikamaru vs Hidan and Kakuzu along with his hearts separated.

      Whereas Asuma almost lost to Hidan on his own when he actually had useful Chunin on his side (Choji and Ino just made the fight harder for Kakashi and Shikamaru).

      There's a gap in their skills, based on feats.

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    • @QuakingStar

      Asuma dying may have been for plot, but I didn't see anywhere in the battle that he got played or anything, especially considering that was the first time we got to see his full abilities and he fought a powerful Akatsuki member so I'm not surprised he died. As for that monk jutsu, he can barely use it. As you seen, he only used for about 5 seconds before it disappeared. As for his wind jutsu, if Ino of all people can get Choji out of the way of his attack, Lee damn sure can avoid it. As for the battle, Lee wouldn't even need 6 gates to beat Asuma. As I said, show me feats where Asuma could keep up with Lee's speed then we can talk. Not to mention, Lee has superior taijutsu than Asuma. Asuma only has him beat with ninjutsu, and that has never stopped Lee before. Lee at the most will only need 5 gates, and I'm being generous. And if you say Lee needs 6 gates to beat Asuma, Guy would only need about 4 gates, as he is superior to Lee. You really aren't helping the argument.

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    • I don't need feats. I have neji, aka someone stronger then the lee we're talking bout. who u think wins: pts neji, or asuma? that's ur answer right there.

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    • Neji never fought Lee in gates, so nice try. Not to mention it wasn't even the same Lee we seen in the Chunin Exams.

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    • lol nice try is what I should say bout ur comment. lee himself said that neji was stronger than him. in part 1 and part 2.

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    • Lee also wanted to test his gates out on Neji, so since Lee has not fought him since gaining the gates, as far he knew he was still stronger. I also don't recall him saying Neji was stronger than him in part 2.

      And to answer your other question. Yes, I do believe Neji part 1 could defeat Asuma. Has way better feats.

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    • not really. one of the times that lee said that neji was stronger, was during the Naruto vs neji, battle where he says he wished to be the winner, but even with the gates, he couldn't compete with neither gaara nor neji (key word: after the gaara fight, where he used the gates). and what way better feats? like for real, do u not like asuma? cuz the guy didn't become a jonin for nothing, since we saw how hard it was to become a gennin, and besides that, he was one of the guardian 12. something that none of the other jonin from hi generation were asked to do.

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    • Why are you even bringing up Gaara, because Asuma wouldn't even be able to beat part 1 Gaara either. Also, what Lee said about Neji was that he dreamed of beating him and couldn't believe Naruto did. This does not remotely mean that he said he couldn't beat Neji, (Chapter 110, page 8) but emphasizes why he wanted to battle Neji again with his gates. And please don't bring rank into this because we all know that rank doesn't necessarily mean anything. And good for him for earning a position in the guardian 12. So now you are trying to say that just because Kakashi or Guy didn't get asked join the group, that Asuma can beat them. Oh please. And just for your information, I have nothing against Asuma. I'm just sick of the hype. I really don't know why I'm even trying to convince you of anything because you don't even seem to know what you are talking about half of the time. Saying Shikamaru had no part in how Asuma cut Hidan's head off and saying that Kakashi and Guy had better feats than Asuma, but that didn't mean they were stronger. How about you do your research before commenting to me. Thank you.

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    • bruh, im not bringing up gaara. I was quoting lee. get a clue. and yes, he probably cant beat pts gaara. so? neither could neji nor lee. funny right? yeah sure, rank doenst matter, that's the president of usa is also a part time waiter of McDonalds, which is completely normal, since ranks don't matter. nigga, for the 5th fucking time, I know that asuma is weaker than them. im just on his side cuz people like u hype kakashi and guy too much. and how in the fuck is asuma hyped? for real? asuma? the one character who is never in any thread? who is never mentioned by anyone, ever? and don't tell me ur just saying that asuma is being hyped just cuz im protecting him? good try man. funny, u say I don't know what im talking, but guess what? u don't know how to fucking read. ive already corrected myself on that. if u read all my comments, u would fucking know. and I didn't say that shika didn't have part in the hidan-head part of the fight. its the rest I was talking bout. and yes better feats dont mean shit. people be hyping sasuke cuz he dodged ay, cuz he kinda blitzed momo, cuz he almost killed kinshiki (who is really fast), which are better feats than most of Naruto's speed feats, but yet again, of course Naruto could fucking rape sasuke while sasuke is still blinking. see my point? (that is, if u read it)

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    • Funny how you say you were just quoting Lee, but tried to make the statement into something it wasn't. Yea try again. I never said Neji could beat Gaara. So what is this? A who can beat Gaara contest? And now you are talking about real life, about being President and a waiter. We are talking about rank in Naruto. I also never said rank doesn't mean anything, but that it doesn't necessarily mean anything. Nobody is hyping Kakashi or Guy up. All my statements are based on feats and valid powerscaling, unlike yours. Asuma could be a jonin, and could have been asked into the guardian 12, but the fact remains that Kakashi and Guy are too much for him. I even said that he and Kurenai would put a good fight, but you want Kakashi and Guy to have to go full out, to the point of exhaustion against this basically featless Kurenai, and not enough feats Asuma. And please do not refer to me as "nigga". It is offensive to me, rather you meant it that way or not. I also don't see why you need to bring up instances of people hyping up other characters when this doesn't concern them. This is getting ridiculous. At this point you should stop responding to me. I've got you beat.

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    • Both Kakashi and Guy can solo Asuma and Kurenai. There should be no debate here.

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    • yes I know. everybody knows. but u people seem to think of them as sakura and ino in pts form vs kaguya and madara. that shit gets me pissed. u know rachin, ur impossible to discuss with, since u always need to have the last word and the last laugh, WHILE being a smartass. im out. I wont be commenting anymore, so don't answer to this.

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: yes I know. everybody knows. but u people seem to think of them as sakura and ino in pts form vs kaguya and madara. that shit gets me pissed. u know rachin, ur impossible to discuss with, since u always need to have the last word and the last laugh, WHILE being a smartass. im out. I wont be commenting anymore, so don't answer to this.

      Don't answer to THIS message?

      Lol it's totally cool to not respond anymore, but don't think you have the power to tell any other user what to do. Even the mods can't do that. You put a message on the board, it's up for response.

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    • @AsianReaper

      It's not even worth responding. He lost all points he was trying to make, and even contradicted himself twice.

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    • Kurenai's genjutsu won't do anything, so it's like 1 vs 2 (sorry, nothing againts Kurenai). Hot-Blooded Duo wins.

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    • You do the same thing, Lorenzo. Honestly this thread is a debate, as all of these are. A debate without facts and proof... it's only speculation. Everyone needs to chill out and stop taking those with opposing opinions personal.. if their facts are wrong then sure point it out if it is. Bring Manga panels and proper translations if you have to.

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    • AsianReaper wrote:

      Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: yes I know. everybody knows. but u people seem to think of them as sakura and ino in pts form vs kaguya and madara. that shit gets me pissed. u know rachin, ur impossible to discuss with, since u always need to have the last word and the last laugh, WHILE being a smartass. im out. I wont be commenting anymore, so don't answer to this.

      Don't answer to THIS message?

      Lol it's totally cool to not respond anymore, but don't think you have the power to tell any other user what to do. Even the mods can't do that. You put a message on the board, it's up for response.

      Rachin puts that at the end of his posts all the time...

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    • Kakashisologod1 wrote: Rachin puts that at the end of his posts all the time...

      I haven't seen it. Most I've seen is him do is say people should stop responding to him.

      Anyways, regarding the debate. I still think this fight is kinda hella one sided in Kakashi and Guy's favour.

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    • @Kakashisologod

      I only put that at end of my posts if there is no point in keep debating when we aren't going to be convinced or when someone starts being rude. Everything I did, this guy did. We both wanted the last word. We both were being sarcastic. We both were being a smartass. But, unlike him, I knew what I was talking about. So it is what it is.

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