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  • All Hokage (Including Danzo, prime Hiruzen and Naruto, Kakashi has one Sharingan, Minato has Yin Kurama, Danzo has Koto and Izanagi) vs All (Nagato's) Akatsuki members (Including Obito, prime Nagato and Edo Madara, Itachi isn't sick, Kakuzu has all 5 hearts, Kisame has Samehada, Sasori has 3rd Kaze)

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    • yo, hakage man

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    • Prime naruto alone cant defeat obito,but with the help of hashirama they can do it.Others will also make it a tough battle,especialy edo madara nagato and itaci.Hokages very high difficulty,with naruto and hashirama surviving.

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    • prime naruto alone defeats juubi madara (dual) but cant defeat obito hahahah

      Naruto alone 1 shots every1 besides obito and maybe edo madara

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    • Naruto loses to 2 eyed madara rather easily,fact that madara has jubbi+dual rinnegan,naruto has only kurama and small amount of chakra from other bijjus.

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    • Everything madara does naruto can counter EVERYTHING the only madara tht wins is the 3 eye madara.Based on feats naruto wins

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    • The same way, 2-eyed Madara can counter everything Naruto got even without Rinne Sharingan. In fact, it was never shown that Madara got some new abilities with the latter except for IT.

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    • Dude,just do the math.Eyes+body>>>>>>>>>>>>>>weaker body.

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    • so how does madara win explain?

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    • Madara has jubbi witch is >kurama plus has 2 rinnegans,come on man its simple.

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    • nice explanation there good shit rly detailed.we going off topic

      1 question whos stronger 1 eye madara or juubito?

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    • 1-eyed Madara, of course. He doesn't have a left eye, but he can at least use a single Rinnegan more effectivelly then Obito, while the latter's Sharingan abilities like Kamui are restricted as a TTJ. Also, 1-eyed Madara has a more complete version of Juubi, with almost full Gyuki and a half of Kurama, while Obito has only the shards of chakra of these two.

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    • Ok wasn't that madara gtting trashed by naruto and sasuke? and neither of them at full power

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    • I don't recall the moment he was actually trashed by them.

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    • i kinda understand why since he was running and running

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    • He was running to get his left Rinnegan, then running and distracting them to activate IT, then he was ready for the final fight which unfortunately didn't happen because of BZ.

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    • Naruto did no dmg to madara when he throw his rasenshuriken,after that sasuke came and cut half of his body,BUT madara didnt care since he was immortal,so no he was the one not fighting,not getting thrashed LOL.

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    • @kakashi wht happen to the thread u said u gonna make about naruto vs juubidara?

      Ok then hahaha.

      Back to the topic: whts stopping naruto sealing obito like he did to madara(limbo)

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    • Mcpowa wrote: @kakashi wht happen to the thread u said u gonna make about naruto vs juubidara?

      Ok then hahaha.

      Back to the topic: whts stopping naruto sealing obito like he did to madara(limbo)

      Holy sh!t i forgot LOL.Will make it now,sealing isnt easy if u cant hit it,just like TB.

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    • I call Draw here. Complete Nagato (aka Prime: Full Mobility and usage of Six Paths of Pain + Six Paths Technique) and Madara would be the biggest contenders in the fight concerning the bad guys. In the end, I simply think it will be a draw due to multiple circumstances.

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    • @Kakashi naruto blitzed 1eye madara >>to obito and u tell me he cant hit him easily ok

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    • He didnt blitz him.Plus madara was surprised of how much of a power boost he gain(he also dodged his attack).

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    • Chapter 674 page 14.He didn't dodge he just trade places with the limbo,unless u gonna tell me tht obito can do the same and lets not forget tht juubito is inferior to juubi jin madara tht means weaker reflects,etc

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    • I think its funny how u all are discussing ttj madara vs spsm Naruto, but the op says that madara is an edo lololol. but just saying: spsm (no cloak)= judara (no shinju, 1 rinne)= juubito imo... if madara got both his rinne, and no shinju, and fought spsm Naruto with cloak, they would be kinda even imo. maybe madara is stronger in this case, but before getting his other rinne, Naruto was stronger by a bit.

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    • This is Edo Madara not Juubi Madara, Naruto can still defeat a one eyed Juubi Madara and could probably take Edo Madara too......

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    • yo, even edo hashirama defeated edo rinne madara... and I already said, by the way.

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    • Naruto gave Jubbi Madara a hard time, but flat out defeat him, I don't think so. Jubbi Madara stopped using the Rinnegan's powers during that section of the war for the most part, so to say Naruto can beat him when he could quite literally compete with Naruto in Taijutsu, and absorb Ninjutsu and Senjutsu, is an understatement. But let us all get back to topic.

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    • I still say hokage.. pretty sure if minato (bm), and tobirama fought together against edo rinne madara, they could defeat him. and hashi can easily defeat the rest by himself. no, wait... actually, prime Naruto can one shot every single non-edo akatsuki in that team, and seal the edo ones

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    • Princeharris1993 wrote: Naruto gave Jubbi Madara a hard time, but flat out defeat him, I don't think so. Jubbi Madara stopped using the Rinnegan's powers during that section of the war for the most part, so to say Naruto can beat him when he could quite literally compete with Naruto in Taijutsu, and absorb Ninjutsu and Senjutsu, is an understatement. But let us all get back to topic.

      This flat out Understatement.
      Madara when tried to escape both naruto and sasuke he Used limbo clones(one of which took down all the tailed beasts) And all of his clones were equally matched by his shadow clones and on top off that Madara realized when even Limbo couldn't help him he was forced to use delay tactic (via using meteors to destroy the ALLiance which forced team-7 to stop them) no way Even Dual rinnegan TTJ Madara was match for either off them. Only 3 eyed madara could hope to compete with Naruto and sasuke though I doubt even than he could have stopped them.
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    • I love how everyone is only paying attention to Naruto, Hashi, Madara, Obito and Nagato lmao it's like everyone else is weak af(well compared to them, yeah) but I'm sure Kakuzu Itachi, Kisame, Sasori and Deidara could do some heavy damage, Itachi and Kisame could most likely take out Tsuna and Kakashi themselves, Danzo could easily take down Hidan I'm sure, and it would probably take every akatsuki member to take down Prime Hiruzen, Naruto and Hashirama

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    • Wait its not even juubito lol,u btter remove naruto cuz him alone takes akatsuki low dif

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    • Mcpowa wrote: Wait its not even juubito lol,u btter remove naruto cuz him alone takes akatsuki low dif

      In your dreams,he loses to enemy team LOL.

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    • naruto goes ashura mode sends six path:ultra big ball rasenshuriken the end

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    • Mcpowa wrote: naruto goes ashura mode sends six path:ultra big ball rasenshuriken the end

      There's a lot of ways for Akatsuki to counter it, especially together, starting from Nagato's Shinra Tensei or Preta Path and ending with the Iron Sand defence of Sasori (and between them, Madara's PS, Wood Release defence, the same Preta Path, as well as Itachi's Susanoo with Yata Mirror, Kisame's grand-scale water techniques, Deidara's hiding underground, Obito's Kamui with both teleportation and intangibility, Hidan's immortality, Kakuzu's way of hiding the heards underground, Zetsu's Mayfly (in case he participates)). And these ultra rasenshuriken aren't the kind of technique which can be spammed with. Some of them could survive the shot even separately, if they'd be cooperating with each other, all of them are going to survive by creating a multi-layered defence, partially absorbing the attack and partially escaping from it.

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    • The blast radius alone would destroy them

      sasori:got no info on the feats besides tanking sakura punches

      hidan body:vaporized

      Kakuzu : blast radius gg hearts

      Deidara :same thing ^^^

      Madara : madara ps got no feats tht can tank a jutsu of tht magnitude,madara wood release its not on hashirama lvl

      Itachi:not gonna even bother cuz u knw hes invincible lol

      Obito: he dodges but wht he can do afterwards nothing

      and naruto sends 2 Wind Release: Ultra-Big Ball Rasenshuriken, and in its left arms, it creates a Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken, both infused with natural energy.

      Nagatos: absorbs and turns into a frog 2 much energy for him to control another counter Sage Art: Lava Release Rasenshuriken( On command, the sphere and blades can greatly expand and lacerate the target) before it reaches nagato he(naruto) commands


      And lets not forget about kagesbushin hahaha he just need 1 kagebushin for each person and do it like he did vs kaguya each one of them using Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken

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    • Nagato can simply reppel it.THE END

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    • Hidan's body cannot vapourise, it can only be torn apart, and it's still repairable in this state.

      The explosion happens on the land's surface in any event, which makes possible for both Kakuzu and Deidara to hide underground.

      Madara's PS is still a powerful defence, and no, Madara has shown multiple times that his Wood Release is on the same level as Hashi's or at least pretty close to it.

      Itachi's Susanoo is also a defence, but I'm not going to bring up the Yata Mirror, I've heard enough in the other threads.

      The main thing that Obito can dodge.

      And no, if we're going to keep it on the characters' actual feats, then Naruto can create only 1 TBB-Rasenshuriken and 1 UBB-Rasenshuriken per shot, not more.

      Madara can absorb the technique as well, and Nagato still has his Shinra Tensei. It's even possible that Nagato's grand-scale Shinra Tensei (the one he used on Konoha) can repel the explosion completely. Yeah, it'd temporarily weaken Nagato himself, but I thing it's worth trying.

      Neither of Akatsuki are going to stay still and watch how Naruto hits them with STB-Rasenshukiken, escpecially if they aren't weakened, since Kaguya was unable to counter the attack because she was.

      And as I already said, cooperating is the best option for Akatsuki, that way, they could withstand the attack with minimal casualties, combining all their defensive, countering and escaping abilities alltogether.

      Edit: besides, I'd be laughing if Kisame's Great Water Shark Jutsu could absorb the SP: UBBR completely and empower itself with it.

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    • wht can they do against naruto kagebushin? Superior in cqc reflexes,etc,etc

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    • Emm, maybe the same as always - hit them with one attack to make them disperse?

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    • how they will hit them?

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    • Maybe, with the different abilities they possess? As an example, let's mention the same Shinra Tensei of Nagato (one of the best counters to the shadow clones) and Animal Path summons, Madara's Wood Release and Susanoo, Deidara's explosions, Kakuzu's elemental techniques, Itachi's MS abilities, Kisame's great water techniques etc. Akatsuki doesn't consist of fodder ninja, after all, and you don't even need something special to make the clones disperse.

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    • When madara used point blank Sage Art: Storm Release Light Fang(A technique that infuses Storm Release with natural energy, the user generates a sharp thin stream of light from their mouth, that is said to be hard to dodge as it runs at the speed of light)And naruto reacted and dodge and u tell me something way way inferior will hit naruto Good shit.

      i can see shinra tensei touching naruto but thts about it

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    • C`mon, Naruto isn't god, even if some techniques seem inferior compared to his level, it doesn't necessary mean they become useless, especially against the shadow clones with 1 hit enough to disperse them.

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    • nope naruto kagebushins proved in war thts not the case

      exp:when he(kagebushin) fought 3 raikage + when they fought limbos,etc

      the problem here is naruto reflects+reaction.when he point blank dodge Sage Art: Storm Release Light Fang from madara

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    • These proofs were quite contadicting even compared to each other.

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    • wht examples u talking btw

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    • It isnt the speed of light,cause sasuke isnt moving at the speed of the light either and he was able to cut naruto.GOD NARUTO kappa.

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    • @Kakashi do i rly need to tell u the pages of tht feat?

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    • Okay, somewhat wrong choice of words from me. I just meant that Naruto's shadow clones were still dispersing after being hit with strong enough force, and there was almost no exception for this rule, while Akatsuki surely possess the techniques strong enough.

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    • tell me one tht can hit naruto besides shinra tense?

      btw not saying otherwise but wht jutsu can do the job minus the one i said above

      and i think shinra tensei cant do the job(dispersing the clones) can push them but not destroy them

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    • I already mentioned a short list in the previous posts, or wasn't it enough?

      C`mon, it's even pointless for clones to try and dodge all this, since their main feature is that they are expendable. Also, if Naruto could overwhelm any powerful opponent with the sheer amount of clones, he would've won the battle against Madara, Kaguya or Sasuke easily and all by himself, while he both needed help and used his clones mainly in the supplementary means.

      And no, there's currently no proof that Shinra Tensei can't disperse the clones, since it always did.

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    • Ravenlot 27 wrote: Hidan's body cannot vapourise, it can only be torn apart, and it's still repairable in this state.

      The explosion happens on the land's surface in any event, which makes possible for both Kakuzu and Deidara to hide underground.

      Madara's PS is still a powerful defence, and no, Madara has shown multiple times that his Wood Release is on the same level as Hashi's or at least pretty close to it.

      Madara can absorb the technique as well, and Nagato still has his Shinra Tensei. It's even possible that Nagato's grand-scale Shinra Tensei (the one he used on Konoha) can repel the explosion completely. Yeah, it'd temporarily weaken Nagato himself, but I thing it's worth trying.

      Neither of Akatsuki are going to stay still and watch how Naruto hits them with STB-Rasenshukiken, escpecially if they aren't weakened, since Kaguya was unable to counter the attack because she was.

      And as I already said, cooperating is the best option for Akatsuki, that way, they could withstand the attack with minimal casualties, combining all their defensive, countering and escaping abilities alltogether.

      Edit: besides, I'd be laughing if Kisame's Great Water Shark Jutsu could absorb the SP: UBBR completely and empower itself with it.

      That makes no sense. Hidan is not invincible

      They won't be to escape from the blast radius

      Madara's PS will not be able to tank the SP: UBBR.

      Madara was shown to only absorb one jutsu at a time. I highly doubt that Nagato will be able to push back an attack of such magnitude

      Shadow clones will keep them busy

      In the face of overwhelming power, ability means nothing

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    • Hidan was blown up in pieces by multiple explosive tags in a point-blank range, it would've destroyed his body completely with almost no remnaints if he was a usual human, but while the body was torn apart, the parts of it stayed intact, so technically Kakuzu would've been able to reconnect them again if he had been there. His body can't be truly destroyed as we've seen.

      And why? As it was shown multiple times, explosions usually cover the surface, not the underground part.

      Alone, of course, not. But Madara isn't alone here nor does he have PS as his only possible defence.

      I also have some doubts about it, but doesn't mean it's that impossible.

      Doesn't necessary has to be so. The individual abilities of Akatsuki put and combined together would be enough to tank the explosion. And said this to Kaguya who possessed an overwhelming power, but got sealed anyway, despite her enemies using lesser abilities.

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    • Yeah right @UltimaDude,well who had the most broken abilitys in naruto,yet got defeated by ppl who had far less raw power.

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    • Ravenlot 27 wrote: Hidan was blown up in pieces by multiple explosive tags in a point-blank range, it would've destroyed his body completely with almost no remnaints remained if he was a usual himan, but while the body was torn apart, the parts of it stayed intact, so technically Kakuzu would've been able to reconnect them again if he had been there.

      And why? As it was shown multiple times, explosions usually cover the surface, not the underground part.

      Alone, of course, not. But Madara isn't alone here nor does he have PS as his only possible defence.

      I also have some doubts about it, but doesn't mean it's that impossible.

      Doesn't necessary has to be so. The individual abilities of Akatsuki put and combined together would be enough to tank the explosion. And said this to Kaguya who possessed an overwhelming power, but got sealed anyway, despite her enemies using lesser abiilities.

      Nagato was also hit up by multiple explosive tags on 'on contact, yet his legs and the rest of his body were still with him, although severely damaged. Kakazu's body didn't vaporize when he was hit by the Rasenshuriken. Clearly shinobis have enhanced durability, to which there is a limit. Not to mention, Hidan was only hot by the falling boulders, IIRC

      You do know what a crater is, right? Naruto and Sasuke's final clash was very high in the air, yet it dealt significant damage to the terrain. Now imagine just half of the power of that clash (the SP: UBBR) was aimed toward the ground. Yeah, case closed

      Madara's PS nor any of his and theAkatsuki's jutsu will be able to counter the SP: UBBR. If they somehow do counter it, they are many other ways for Naruto to curbstomp the Akatsuki.

      Naruto should be removed

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    • @Ravenlot27 the moment u compare explosive tags to bijuu dama or something superior dam good shit nothing more to say hahahah

      One question of from these akatsuki members which one doesn't get blitz?

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    • Judging from the Hidan's case, Nagato's legs really should've been blown out, which means that Nagato could've used some of his jutsu to reduce the damage.

      Okay, crater is there, but by going underground deep enough, it's still possible to escape the exposion, especially since Deidada practiced this hiding specifically for this means. Obito is an another example (when Gyuki cleaned up the forest with his tailed beast twist, and he stayed underground to avoid damage). And VoTE was mainly damaged by the lighting rays clearly belonging to the effects of Indra's arrow.

      C`mon, I'm not underrestimating the sheer power of Naruto's jutsu, you're the one who are underrestimating Hidan's immortality ability. I mean, if is body can be destroyed completely, then it means he can die, while he was clearly called to be immortal. He can survive this as well, albeit not in the best state, but as long as Kakuzu is there, it's not beyond repair.

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    • Which akatsuki here doesn't get blitz by naruto?

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    • Ravenlot 27 wrote: Judging from the Hidan's case, Nagato's legs really should've been blown out, which means that Nagato could've used some of his jutsu to reduce the damage.

      Okay, crater is there, but by going underground deep enough, it's still possible to escape the exposion, especially since Deidada practiced this hiding specifically for this means. Obito is an another example (when Gyuki cleaned up the forest with his tailed beast twist, and he stayed underground to avoid damage). And VoTE was mainly damaged by the lighting rays clearly belonging to the effects of Indra's arrow.

      C`mon, I'm not underrestimating the sheer power of Naruto's jutsu, you're the one who are underrestimating Hidan's immortality ability. I mean, if is body can be destroyed completely, then it means he can die, while he was clearly called to be immortal. He can survive this as well, albeit not in the best state, but as long as Kakuzu is there, it's not beyond repair.

      He didn't use any jutsu

      Again it's not possible to avoid the explosion. Deidara's bombs aren't comparable to SP: UBBR. Gyuiki leveled the forest, not detonate it. Point is, the terrain would be unrecognizable if the clash happened on the ground

      I'm not underestimating anything. If his body can be bruised, punctured, sliced, and etc then clearly it can be destroyed. The only reasons why Hidan is called immortal are that he can't be killed by conventional means and he can live forever.

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    • Some how people are estimating Naruto's shadow clones. Each one off them was fighting on par with Madara's Limbo clones one off which defeated all the Tailed Beast in single hit to the point they couldn't even move. I don't see any off the Akatsuki(maybe Madara or Nagato) pulling that off.
      @Ravenlot27 I Think Shark bomb could do that but than It won't even Harm naruto given his TTJ based ninjutsu immunity. Which means only Nagato and Madara could even hope about fighting naruto here and Madara has to proabably take on hashirama. Which means Hokage take this easy-peasy.
      And two I think pain confirmed that Hidan was dead before Konoha crush.

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    • Only reason it knocked them up was because they couldnt see them.

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    • Kakashisologod wrote: Only reason it knocked them up was because they couldnt see them.

      Limbo knocked Tailed beasts down flat they couldn't use any counter attack after that nor they could run away after that. I am pointing out power off single limbo. Naruto's "weak shadow clones/Easily dispersing" fought on par with them.(Despite the fact that madara had much better taijutsu ability which was enhanced further by being TTJ and They couldn't see just sensing).

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    • Again madaras limbos had surprise attack,if it wasnt for that bijjus wouldev had dodged.

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    • Kakashisologod wrote: Again madaras limbos had surprise attack,if it wasnt for that bijjus wouldev had dodged.

      Dodge something they can't percieve? Alive, One-Eyed Madara's Limbo had enough strength to push a Tailed Beast. TTJ-Madara's Limbo is far above that and Naruto's clones were fighting on par with each Limbo clone. The Akatsuki won't be able to handle Naruto's clones

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    • Only reason they cant percieve is because they are invisible to them.

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    • Kakashisologod wrote: Only reason they cant percieve is because they are invisible to them.

      Umm, well duh

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    • UltimaDude wrote:

      Kakashisologod wrote: Only reason they cant percieve is because they are invisible to them.

      Umm, well duh

      Mb,i think i wrote something diffrently,currently having fever,what i meant to say was only reason they knocked them up was becuase they had surprise attack.Are limbo clones fast?

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    • Kakashisologod wrote:

      UltimaDude wrote:

      Kakashisologod wrote: Only reason they cant percieve is because they are invisible to them.

      Umm, well duh

      Mb,i think i wrote something diffrently,currently having fever,what i meant to say was only reason they knocked them up was becuase they had surprise attack.Are limbo clones fast?

      smashed all 9 in blink off eye I would say reasonably fast.

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    • Maybe because they were close to the other bijjus?

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    • does that matter? Like I said power of the limbo matter not it's duration or invisibilty...

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