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  • Firstly, I would like to explain the different ways to achieve a Chakra Mode.

    The fact that both Ten-Tails Chakra users and Tenseigan users have Chakra Mode and both are Gen 2 (directly related to Kaguya), could possibly mean that you'll get Chakra Mode if you achieved one of the Gen 2 abilities:

    • Ten-Tails Chakra (Kurama, Madara, Obito, and Naruto)
    • Rinnegan AND Six Paths Sage Mode (Hagoromo)
    • Tenseigan (Hamura and Toneri)

    Kurama had that chakra avatar which is basically him going Chakra Mode, Madara had that white cloak Chakra Mode, Obito had those red chakra arms, which I consider that a partial Chakra Mode, Naruto had that "Ten-Tails Chakra Mode", and Toneri had that Tenseigan Chakra Mode.

    The above ability is of course a next-step ability based on another speculation I've observed, which is that Gen 3 (directly related to Hagoromo and his descendants) people are split into 2 groups (Indra, Asura), with each group having a Chakra Structure ability (Susanoo, Adamantine Chain). Logically, this would be a watered down ability of the Chakra Mode mentioned above, which completes the evolutionary chain of the chakra-related abilites.

    Secondly, I would like to explain the different Tailed Beast Chakra Modes of Naruto.

    Naruto had a total of 8 different Chakra Modes throughout the series, and the ones after the war are the msot confusing. But if we separate them into different versions (Manga/Anime/Movie, Gaiden, Boruto), then it would be easy to understand.

    • Chakra Mode (Chakra only)
    • Link Mode (Chakra and heartbeat)

    Minato's Chakra Mode and Naruto's first Chakra Mode are the Yin and Yang half of a complete Chakra Mode that first appeared in The Last. This complete form then reappeared albeit slightly changed in the next movie when Naruto first fought Momoshiki. If you compare the two you'll see the similarities (opened circle on the stomach).

    The Kurama Link Mode that Naruto used in the war also reappeared albeit slightly changed in the movie when Naruto fights Momoshiki for the second time, probably due to Naruto having both Yin and Yang Kurama. Again, if you compare the two you'll see the similarities (full circle on the stomach, black undershirt with a curve bottom).

    The mode that Naruto used in Gaiden and in Boruto is their respective versions of the mode mentioned in the previous paragraph, hence not having as much similarities as the modes previously mentioned.

    The mode that Naruto used to fight Madara, Kaguya and subsequently Sasuke is the Link Mode that utilised all the Tailed Beasts' Chakra, with a signature black undersuit.

    Lastly, I would like to explain the relationship between Tailed Beast Chakra Mode and Jinchuriki Forms.

    There are 3 types of Jinchuriki Forms, first one is a human using the chakra (Initial, Version 1), second one is a hybrid between a human and a Tailed Beast (Version 2), and the last one is the Tailed Beast (Partial, TB Mode).

    There are also 3 types of Tailed Beast Chakra Mode, first one is a human using the chakra (Nine-Tails Chakra Mode), second one is a human linking their heartbeat with a Tailed Beast (Kurama Link Mode), and the last one is the Tailed Beast (Kurama Mode).

    Basically, if you see the similarities, the 3 types of Tailed Beast Chakra Mode is just the 3 types of Jinchuriki Forms but with the addition of physically becoming chakra, which could be due to Kurama being the largest part of the Ten-Tails Chakra.

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    • I think it's a step too far to assume all chakra modes are the same. I disagree.

      Above all, a chakra mode is a technique, one that enhances physical ability and defensive abilities. The lighting cloak the Raikage use is essentially a lightning chakra mode. Doesn't mean he has special powers.

      Kurama is able to generate a battle avatar, even now that the two halves are joined. So i think it's clear it's Kurama's ability, especially since Minato could use it too, even though he's not an uzumaki or transmigrant or secret senju.

      Susanoo is a specific battle avatar and a Kekkei Genkai.

      Eighty Gods Vacuum Palm similarly creates a battle avatar, but only around the hands. Naruto essentially does the same with Kurama's chakra. I don't see why Kaguya can't extend it in every direction to form a true susanoo-like construct, other than the fact that she's already pretty immortal.

      Now, Adamantine chains is a bit of a weird ability as it's marked as Hiden in the databooks. Only Uzumaki seem to have it and e.g. Karin was able to use it in her anger, without a hint of training it or anything. The whole scene seemed to imply it was a power (perhaps not unlike Susanoo) that awoke, not a secret jutsu. It makes sense to be Kekkei Genkai, but it's not a huge hole in any reasoning or trend either.

      Tenseigan grants a chakra mode. It mostly does what chakra modes do, enhanced defenses and abilities. I don't see anything special.

      The Ten Tails is still a biju, and Biju grant chakra cloaks(version 1 and 2 cloaks). Obito and Madara using it while being it's jinchuriki isn't that special.


      Finally, Naruto's cloak in The Last came before SPSM was locked in, and i think it's fairly clear that the mode is supposed to be SPSM. In Naruto Gaiden and Boruto, Naruto's cloak changes with his clothing (and for some reason his seal changes shape too). In Boruto he has a form with and without the Hokage cape. In Gaiden he has a different outfit. It's got nothing to do with modes and links, it's a cosmetic/convenient thing.

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    • You put too much thought into these things, I disagree. @Killman, I disagree with the last part.

      The last definitely didn't come before SPSM in manga. Again, the movie has Sasuke with Rinnegan, Hokage Kakashi, whole Kurama, Truth Seeking Balls, Hamura etc. And I disagree with the cloak. Completely ignore the movie, those designs are simply wrong. The design in Gaiden and Boruto manga is canon.

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    • Thekillman wrote: The lighting cloak the Raikage use is essentially a lightning chakra mode.

      The thing with the Lightning Release Chakra Mode and also the Lava Release Chakra Mode is that they are only coating themselves in the said element, which grants them the ability related to that element. Whereas the Chakra Modes mentioned in the thread has the ability to actually change the users physically into chakra, as shown when both Toneri and Naruto displayed the ability to put their arms into Hinata in The Last.

      Thekillman wrote: Kurama is able to generate a battle avatar, even now that the two halves are joined. So i think it's clear it's Kurama's ability, especially since Minato could use it too, even though he's not an uzumaki or transmigrant or secret senju.

      Yeah, forgot to mention that Kurama has the ability too.

      Thekillman wrote: Eighty Gods Vacuum Palm similarly creates a battle avatar, but only around the hands. Naruto essentially does the same with Kurama's chakra. I don't see why Kaguya can't extend it in every direction to form a true susanoo-like construct, other than the fact that she's already pretty immortal.

      I mean, it's possible, but I was focusing more on her descendants' abilities so I didn't think too much on Kaguya.

      Thekillman wrote: The Ten Tails is still a biju, and Biju grant chakra cloaks(version 1 and 2 cloaks). Obito and Madara using it while being it's jinchuriki isn't that special.

      But the thing is, they both had a different type of Chakra Mode compared to the Version 1 and Version 2.

      Thekillman wrote: Finally, Naruto's cloak in The Last came before SPSM was locked in, and i think it's fairly clear that the mode is supposed to be SPSM.

      I meant the Chakra Mode he was using, not the Sage Mode he was using. Changing which Sage Mode he uses doesn't change the Chakra Mode, their powers don't affect each other.

      Thekillman wrote: In Naruto Gaiden and Boruto, Naruto's cloak changes with his clothing (and for some reason his seal changes shape too).

      Basically, what I'm trying to say is that the modes in Gaiden and Boruto is not part of the manga/anime/movie continuum.

      Thekillman wrote: In Boruto he has a form with and without the Hokage cape.

      Now I didn't know about that.

      Elveonora wrote: Completely ignore the movie, those designs are simply wrong. The design in Gaiden and Boruto manga is canon.

      But the movie designs are more similar to the manga/anime designs compared to the Gaiden and Boruto designs don't you agree?

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    • Elveonora wrote: The last definitely didn't come before SPSM in manga. Again, the movie has Sasuke with Rinnegan, Hokage Kakashi, whole Kurama, Truth Seeking Balls, Hamura etc.

      Keep in mind that time-wise, Naruto's cloak takes up much much more screen time than any of the other things. Kishimoto could easily tell the movie production things like "Kakashi is hokage, sasuke misses an arm, Kurama is whole". Any errors are relatively easily fixed there. A change in Naruto design however would take up a considerable amount of the total production time.

      Also to clarify: I meant that The Last was in production before SPSM was revealed.

      Elveonora wrote: And I disagree with the cloak. Completely ignore the movie, those designs are simply wrong. The design in Gaiden and Boruto manga is canon.

      I vastly prefer the Boruto Manga design anyway, but i think it's worth pointing out that the design does in fact change with the clothes Naruto wears.

      Georgio722 wrote: The thing with the Lightning Release Chakra Mode and also the Lava Release Chakra Mode is that they are only coating themselves in the said element, which grants them the ability related to that element. Whereas the Chakra Modes mentioned in the thread has the ability to actually change the users physically into chakra, as shown when both Toneri and Naruto displayed the ability to put their arms into Hinata in The Last.

      IMHO things like chakra arms are just a more advanced form of control over the chakra mode. Considering how few people even use Chakra modes, i think it's clear that it's a fairly difficult technique. It's easy for jinchuriki because they have so much chakra.

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    • About the cloak, there's two ways to tell that the Boruto movie designs are simply errors or not intended canon.

      First, chakra doesn't cover Naruto's face and the rest of his skin in SPSM while it does in Boruto movie Second, the design of the seals are both wrong

      In other words, how Naruto's cloak is intended to look in Boruto era is shown in Gaiden and manga.

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    • Thekillman wrote:

      IMHO things like chakra arms are just a more advanced form of control over the chakra mode.

      I didn't mean them manifesting Chakra Arms from their Chakra Mode, I meant Naruto and Toneri actually changing their physical bodies into chakra. Remember how Naruto stabbed his actual arm into Hinata to take out the green orb?

      Elveonora wrote: First, chakra doesn't cover Naruto's face and the rest of his skin in SPSM while it does in Boruto movie

      To me it appears that Naruto just didn't utilise all the Tailed Beasts' Chakra like he did against Kaguya. Plus, we don't have a colour version for Gaiden and Boruto either, so it could be the same as depicted in the movie, with yellow face and all.

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    • Firstly, SPSM came BEFORE The Last Chakra Mode.

      Second, The Last Chakra Mode is NOT apart of SPSM; it is Naruto's Kurama Mode + (normal) Sage Mode, only it is the version of chakra mode when BOTH halves of Kurama have been been put back together as one, and has been sealed inside Naruto. The first time this happened, was during his battle against Obito, and it was when Yang Kurama alone was sealed in Naruto. Also, FYI, according to Kishimoto, The Last IS canon to the story.

      Third, the chakra modes we see today, in Gaiden & the Boruto franchise, look the way they do, because Naruto is NOT using his full power. He's only using Kuramas power along with his Six Paths power and natural energy. In order for Naruto to go full Six Paths Sage Mode: everything but his skin glowing, a full black bodysuit with a ring around his abdomen, and having Truth-Seeking Balls orbit behind his back, Naruto would have to tap into the power of ALL the nine tailed beasts along with natural energy and Six Paths power.

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