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  • What do you think if the previous Hokage was reanimated against Allied Shinobi Force?

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    • What do you mean by previous hokage. Does that refer to a single Hokage? all seven?

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    • From 1 to 4 Hokage of course they fight in the 4 shinobi world

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    • lol kage win, bro. they have a madara lvl guy, and other 2 stronger than obito.. plus hiruzen, who aint the weakest of niggas

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: lol kage win, bro. they have a madara lvl guy, and other 2 stronger than obito.. plus hiruzen, who aint the weakest of niggas

      And dont forget Minato

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    • I said that "they have a madara lvl guy, and OTHER 2 STRONGER THAN OBITO"

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    • Is Hiruzen in his prime?? if he is then for sure the alliance dies.. a horrible death. No way they are getting past either Hiruzen or Hashirama..

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    • lol hiruzen is probably the weakest, weren't it for minato having kurama, then minato would be the weakest.. hiruzen could probably take on 1000 shinobi.. imagine what hashirama would do?

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    • Prime Hiruzen is confirmed to be at the least tied with Hashirama, while being confirmed to surpass Tobirama at a young age. He is also the only Shinobi after Hashirama to ever get the God of Shinobi title.. which I would assume is not about just power, but about intelligence and experience too. Hiruzen in his prime was never given a chance to be shown, BUT we are told about him by the author so we have to take what the author says. So Prime Hiruzen at the least = Hashirama. Old Hiruzen is no pushover either though considering Orochimaru had two Edo's with him and still couldn't kill him or defeat him.. in fact Oro was getting beaten near the end.

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    • when did this: "Prime Hiruzen is confirmed to be at the least tied with Hashirama, while being confirmed to surpass Tobirama at a young age" happen? don't tell me its databook stuff. nobody, besides for the god lvl dudes, can compare to hashirama.. think of it this way: could hiruzen prime beat madara and kurama at the same time? nope. each edo that hashi used had less than 10 percent of power (this is confirmed by hiruzen himself). but, yeah, he pretty even with orochi.

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    • DB4 says he surpassed Tobirama at a young age. The other DB's and the manga say he is a God of Shinobi, and that he was the strongest Hokage the village ever had, but I think that just means that he was about as strong as Hashirama.. manga and db also says that Hiruzen was the strongest Kage in his lifetime. Author's notes and statements are put into the DB's and manga. We also have no idea what Prime Hiruzen could use but we only know he was a God of Shinobi, at least equal to Hashirama. That's all. If we are going by feats then we have to use Old Hiruzen.. but thats just DBZ stuff to go by feats alone. This isn't DBZ.

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    • so lets presume that prime hiruzen might have been stronger than prime tobirama, and at least able to fight against hashirama at some lvl.. that good?

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    • I would say Prime Hiruzen is equal to base Hashirama, considering that Sage Mode Hashirama wasn't even a thing until near the end of the manga and the author didn't have that planned out for him when placed Prime Hiruzen equal to Hashirama. So Sage Mode Hashirama > Prime Hiruzen = Base Hashirama. How's that??

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    • sounds good... at least now, we can base prime hiruzen's power on something.

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    • Yeah it seems Hiruzen is just supposed to be the pinnacle Shinobi who does not possess KKG, isn't a Jinchuriki, and does not possess Senjutsu so I guess him being chosen to be that good makes sense.

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    • kinda like most shinobi with secret jutsu (kiba, choji, ino blah blah blah...)

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    • People underestimate Minato. He beat 1000 Shinobi single-handedly, and I don't think it was hard for him. Since reanimated him has Kurama, he's a big factor.

      Their skill, power, and teamwork as Hokage would overwhelm the alliance, I think. Especially since Hashi, Tobi, and Hiruzen have worked together before. And Minato is too fast for any of the alliance to even hit. The only people who have every hit him are like, TTJs

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    • AsianReaper wrote: People underestimate Minato. He beat 1000 Shinobi single-handedly, and I don't think it was hard for him.

      He used the FTG and he had help from his peers, as they threw the FTG kunai.

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    • Minato was stalemated by 15yr old Killer Bee when they first met each other when Ei was owned.. holding a vibrato sword to Minato's stomach.. So people can react to Minato and his FTG if they are at Killer Bee's level and above.

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    • Minato never planned to kill Bee. It's possible that he would have killed him but stopped, and Bee put his blade up to ensure he wouldn't get killed.

      @Rachin, of course he used FTG. And as far as the Kunai go, you don't think he'd be able to throw a bunch just by himself? Plus every account of the event says he beat them singlehandedly. Meaning, by himself.

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    • well, bee was just sitting down, and in his weakest form, and he was like, naruto's age and naruto's mental lvl so...

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    • @AsiaReaper

      I'm quite aware of what singlehandedly means so please don't insult me. And another thing, people say Naruto singlehandedly "beat" Pain when we all know that's not true. He had loads of help. Minato could have thrown the kunai, but not all of those kunai in one turn. I have no doubt he could have beat the 1000 (100 in the manga), by himself, but not as quickly.

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    • wait, I think I missed something.. when did the minato vs a billion ninja battle happen? im lost af...

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: wait, I think I missed something.. when did the minato vs a billion ninja battle happen? im lost af...

      It wasn't a billion. It was 1000 in the anime and 100 in the manga. The anime tried to hype him up more.

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    • no, but where? like what chap? I don't even remember this happening.. was in the 3rd war?

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    • Kakashi Gaiden Manga chapters.

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    • oh thanks.

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    • Hashirama summons Thousand Hands,minato can attack with kurama and FTG Tobirama can also attack with FTG and teleport every attack they throw at him.Hiruzen.....oh well summons king enma and attacks with some jutsus.

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    • won't the kages , Oro, Kabuto, Naruto ,Sasuke, Sakura, Killer Bee be on the front lines? and they will also have the "sage's tools" in this fight. How are you guys suggesting that they will win against all Of the alliance(includes shikaku , Shikamaru and other great shinobi)

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    • What if the Kage made the barrier and Minato shot a Bijuudama in it? What could they do? Sasuke had a contingency for him, his team, and Naruto, but the rest? What can they do?

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    • AsianReaper wrote: What if the Kage made the barrier and Minato shot a Bijuudama in it? What could they do? Sasuke had a contingency for him, his team, and Naruto, but the rest? What can they do?

      The rest its lost

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    • AsianReaper wrote: What if the Kage made the barrier and Minato shot a Bijuudama in it? What could they do? Sasuke had a contingency for him, his team, and Naruto, but the rest? What can they do?

      which barrier you are talking abt?

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    • Namikazenaruto9 wrote: which barrier you are talking abt?

      http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Four_Red_Yang_Formation

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    • AsianReaper wrote:

      Namikazenaruto9 wrote: which barrier you are talking abt?

      http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Four_Red_Yang_Formation

      what abt the kages (level shinobi ) forming their own barrier to keep the hokages outside their own barrier while they(hokages) form their own? that would keep the hokages out.(something like this happened in Hiruzen VS Orochimaaru)

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    • lol when u have prime kage lvl shinnobi, not just same old rusty dude, 2 weak ass edos, and a bunch of useless chunnin, the battle gets real enough that barriers might not even work anymore.. if they get the kage in, ftg, sealing jutsu, or hashirama will do the job kinda quickly.. on the other side, if they made a barrier for the shinobi, u would have kakashi's kamui to make a hole, teleport himself, or others outside the barrier.. u have might guy, killer bee, bsm Naruto, and if Naruto gave chakra to the other shinobi, they will obviously become more powerful... still, kage for the win.

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: on the other side, if they made a barrier for the shinobi, u would have kakashi's kamui to make a hole, teleport himself, or others outside the barrier.. u have might guy, killer bee, bsm Naruto, and if Naruto gave chakra to the other shinobi, they will obviously become more powerful... still, kage for the win.

      Making a barrier would be a stupid tactic. Hashirama can take the main offense role and use Wood Release to clear the field of ninja trash. Minato and Obito form a tag-team that cleans up anyone trying to interfere. All Hiruzen has to do is support from a distance and switch between protecting Hashirama (who would be focusing on his Wood Release) and Minato and Tobirama.

      The remaining people would be decent, but nothing that four immortal godlike shinobi with infinite chakra can't solve.

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    • dude, did u even read what I wrote? and the point of my comment was literally what u just wrote.. I think barriers are stupid too in this case.

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    • WELL What abt Kabuto using his edo army to level the battle field amongst hokage eventually sealing all the hokages with use of naruto and the kages?

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    • well, kabuto has itachi, nagato, madara, 3rd raikage, 2nd tsuchi and mizukages, and maybe some other characters that are worth mentioning.. but the kage team seems to have orochi on their side, since he's the one who summoned them.. I think he is on their side, at least.. madara vs hashirama.. evenly matched if u give madara the rinne.. tobirama can take itachi, while minato takes nagato, but hiruzen by himself vs the other 3 strongest kage ever seems unfair imo...

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    • What abt the excess on Allied Shinobi side? Naruto, Sakura,Sasuke the 5 kage(alive) the complete akatsuki? their is reasonable chance they would win against hokages...

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    • The barrier was enough to subdue the entire Ten Tails, it shouldn't be underestimated ._.

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    • @Namikazenaruto9 u relaise kabuto isnt on their side right?

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    • yeah he is.. he's the one that revived sasuke, and cancelled some of the edos left, after itachi izanami'd him

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: yeah he is.. he's the one that revived sasuke, and cancelled some of the edos left, after itachi izanami'd him

      Who revived Sasuke?

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    • Hokages still take this.

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    • @asdsd, I don't know if u meant that sarcastically, but I meant kabuto. when sasuke was laying next to tobirama, he was dying from madara's stab. kabuto appeared outta nowhere and healed him, the same way jugo did.

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: @asdsd, I don't know if u meant that sarcastically, but I meant kabuto. when sasuke was laying next to tobirama, he was dying from madara's stab. kabuto appeared outta nowhere and healed him, the same way jugo did.

      No im not sarcastely but i think the Indra and Asura revived him

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: dude, did u even read what I wrote? and the point of my comment was literally what u just wrote.. I think barriers are stupid too in this case.

      My point isn't that Barriers are stupid because the Alliance can break them. My point is that barriers are stupid because it vastly limits the abilities of the Four kage in exchange for fairly little power.

      A four-way combo between these kage would be infinitely more lethal than a barrier. Especially because Hashirama can obliterate most of the Alliance himself and the named characters that can stop him, can't stop a Minato-Tobirama tag team, and the characters problematic for either the tag-team or Hashirama have to deal with Hiruzen. We know little of Hiruzen, but he's named the Professor for his study of ninjutsu, so it seems reasonable he knows a lot of ninjutsu to deal with many problems. Hence in this nigh-unbeatable set-up, he's the versatile problem solver. the two fastest known characters are fast-response to deal with anyone trying to stop Hashirama.

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    • yeah, I agree with 90 percent of that.

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    • Thekillman wrote:

      Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: dude, did u even read what I wrote? and the point of my comment was literally what u just wrote.. I think barriers are stupid too in this case.

      My point isn't that Barriers are stupid because the Alliance can break them. My point is that barriers are stupid because it vastly limits the abilities of the Four kage in exchange for fairly little power.

      A four-way combo between these kage would be infinitely more lethal than a barrier. Especially because Hashirama can obliterate most of the Alliance himself and the named characters that can stop him, can't stop a Minato-Tobirama tag team, and the characters problematic for either the tag-team or Hashirama have to deal with Hiruzen. We know little of Hiruzen, but he's named the Professor for his study of ninjutsu, so it seems reasonable he knows a lot of ninjutsu to deal with many problems. Hence in this nigh-unbeatable set-up, he's the versatile problem solver. the two fastest known characters are fast-response to deal with anyone trying to stop Hashirama.

      The barrier they set up contained Bijuu Bombs from the Ten Tails. It's not exactly the most breakable thing. It's not that stupid of a thing to set it up to blow up the inside with a Bijuu Bomb or something to thin out the herd.

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    • no, we were discussing that some hack abilities, like ftg, or reverse summoning, or kamui, and stuff like that, can pass through it easily.

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