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  • This kind of seems to be balanced enough.
    Morals off, Naruto and Hashi are willing to kill
    In-Character (Naruto may screw up with a wreckless attack or something)
    No restrictions, all are as strong as they were when they were alive. Valley Of The End.

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    • by prime you mean madara as juubi jinchuriki or just with rinnengan

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    • Prime 3 eyed god madara can kill all of them 3 together LOL.

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    • Naruto and sasuke weren't losing, or anything like that, and it was just the 2 of them against 3 eyed god madara... with hashi's help they could win mid-high diff... what prime forms are u talkin bout?

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    • Both of them were needed to take down 1 eyed madara...3 eyed god madara should kill them even with hashi.

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    • how would u know?

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    • Because he had insane strength, years of experience, and lots of battle intelligence. Plus the only sure-fire way to beat him would be for Naruto and Sasuke to use Six Paths Chibaku Tensei.

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    • And naruto also said that both of them were needed to seal 1 eyed madara.

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    • when? Naruto spsm base kinda fought on par with madara ttj 1 rinne.. kinda.. Naruto spsm 9 bijuu cloak should be stronger than madara ttj 2 rinne... sure, madara would reck Naruto with the shinjuu and his 2 rinne, but the previous form is weaker than prime Naruto. imo of course.. and obviously both Naruto and sasuke were needed to seal madara, since neither of them had the full six paths seal. they basically needed each other just to complete the jutsu. Naruto didn't say they together were weaker than madara. its just the way he said it that made it sound like that.

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    • Lol no he pushed away VERY weakend version of 1 eyed ttj madara.

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    • how very weakened? he was fully healed, has infinite chakra, put a tsb between him and Naruto, tried attacking Naruto with a limbo, which takes quite a toll to make.. oh, and he was so vey weakened that he didn't almost suffer any damage from naruto's raseshuriken... is that what u mean? by pushed away u meant what, if I may ask? Naruto landed a punch on him. that sounds like a pretty hard to do to a guy who has eyes that can follow/see any attack beforehand, the strongest barrier (tsb), super regen... he even landed a rasenshuriken on him, while dodging a limbo at the very same time in midair, like I said before.. sounds like a little bit more than just than PUSHING AWAY a VERY WEAKENED madara, don't u think?

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    • Night guys kick was so strong he was still tired even after healing.Second he dosent have infinite chakra.Third madara for some reason didnt aboreb narutos jutsu.

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    • every ttj has infinite chakra.. the juubi is sage enegy= all over the place and is endless.. and neither did madara get outta the way for night guy, nor did he use a limbo or his tsbs.. its all plot man.. I already said that before..

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: every ttj has infinite chakra.. the juubi is sage enegy= all over the place and is endless.. and neither did madara get outta the way for night guy, nor did he use a limbo or his tsbs.. its all plot man.. I already said that before..

      It's not plot, he just wasn't fast enough to put his defense up.

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    • dude, opinions... ok? I don't judge yours, so don't judge mine.. I never said u were wrong, nor did I say that I was right. I like to think that guy is the fastest ninja, by physical means (no teleportation, nor any shunshin).. but madara is a ttj, with an ems/rinne... he either saw guy with his rinne/ems, and didn't have time to react for real.. or he sensed it with the juubi senjutsu, but didn't have a good grasp of the situation..

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    • Or he didnt predict and reacted to his attack.

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    • @kakashi, what do u mean?

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    • @Lorenzo, opinions are fine, I don't know why every time I pose a rebuttal to your arguments you assume I'm attacking you directly. I'm not.

      You keep saying plot or whichever, but why? 8 Gates Guy is insanely fast; he managed to land several blows of just Evening Elephant on him, while Madara was only fast enough to block the first strike. So why is it out of the question that Night Guy, an attack that's much faster and more powerful than Evening ELephant, is too fast for TTJ Madara to block or dodge?

      The manga has already shown that even while someone may see an attack coming with powerful eyes or sensing abilities, it doesn't mean they can move physically fast enough to block or dodge.

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    • first, cuz madara knew where it was coming from. second, he knew it was taijutsu. third, he knew when it was gonna happen. fourth, he knew it was a very-high-speed kick.. that is, really, enough info imo.. I already said that guy is the fastest out there, in my last comment. evening elephant was in midair, all directions, and at random. there is a big difference imo about these 2 attacks imo. although its true, that senses aren't always that reliable, especially if the body cant cope with them, madara had the body of a ttj.. that's seems a pretty good, fast, strong, tough enough body to cope with the senses I talked about. try and see it from my point of and you will understand... I hope... I will try the same about ur's... ok?

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    • @Lorenzo, if you knew Bruce Lee was going to kick you, and you knew from which direction, and he demonstrated exactly what he was going to do beforehand in slow motion, would you be able to block his kick? Probably not.

      In fact, Bruce Lee posed the same challenge to many fighters with a punch instead of a kick. And they couldn't block it.

      Just because you know where an attack is coming from and know the nature of the attack, it doesn't mean your body is fast enough to block it.

      And again, I point to Sasuke vs Lee. Sasuke could see where Lee's attacks were going. But he couldn't block them. Because he wasn't fast enough.

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    • Madara reacted to minato who used FTG however guy was fast enough too blitz him.It just means night guy is insanely fast.

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    • Anyways, this match is very one-sided if we're using TTJ Madara. Mainly because Hashirama can't fight on the same scale, while Sasuke could survive for a little but would lose 100% of the time against both Madara and Naruto

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    • Like i said 3 eyed madara can 3vs1 them lol.

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    • look, im not gonna discuss anymore, since we all are repeating the same stuff over and over again, and still not changing our opinions.. this isn't going anywhere... I don't know how fast was guy, and neither do u, but we all know that he is the (physically) fastest ninja in the show. period. lets stop here. why did madara never dodged/counter-attacked/ any other possible option against night guy? we don't know either. period. lets stop here as well. we all agree on team madara/Naruto, so lets just quit our discussion, which is obviously pointless, and just talk bout something else. ok?

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    • @Lorenzo, the discussion already came back to the topic at hand but you just brought up the Madara and Night Guy thing up again.

      Madara didn't counter Guy because he couldn't. Otherwise he would have. We know this because he made it explicitly clear that he didn't want to get hit by any of his attacks, but got hit anyways. You keep claiming that we don't know and that it's all opinion, but the piece of information we do have is that Madara did not dodge the attacks. Now, going by storyline, it stands to reason that he would have dodged if he could have. But you claim he only didn't dodge the attack because of plot, even though it fits within the narrative of the story that he wasn't fast enough. There's evidence shown that seeing an attack coming doesn't mean you can dodge it. There's evidence that Madara wasn't faster than any Evening Elephant step except the 1st (the other steps keep getting faster). There is no evidence that Madara was actually faster than Guy but didn't move out of the way (which would fit your idea of it only being plot). I don't know why you insist on it.

      In general though, you really gotta stop taking my arguments and making it look like I'm witch-hunting you. I'm not. You said it was plot. But as soon I say it wasn't, you act like I'm attacking you. Chill, it's just a debate.

      So, @AsianFishTacos never specified beyond "prime forms." So I guess that means we're pretty much all agreeing that Naruto and Madara wins?

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    • yes, and I do know that ur not attacking me.. I just get butt hurt easily.. oh, and I only brought guy back up, so that I could finish the talk bout it then and there.

      I insist on it cuz of a few bias, and non bias thing: in my head (its hard to explain why) madara being able to dodge makes sense, but thats cuz of the way I think, and everybody is unique so.. oh, and im stubborn.

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    • Coughs madara and naruto coughs.

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    • lol.. we know that already..

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