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  • This isn't all at once, but keeping in mind how Guy essentially wrecked Madara, I'm curious about how he'd do against the Hokages.

    Rules: Hashi can't use sage
    Hiruzen can't seal him away
    Guy doesn't suffer from recoil of gates

    Guy is fighting all of them one at a time btw. Its one on one the entire time.

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    • You should specipy if you really do mean all the known Hokages, since it would include 7 people with Naruto also present, you know. I try not to underrestimate the power of the 8 gates Guy, but all the Hokage at once would be too much even for him. In the case the 8-Gates time limit is still kept, then some of Hokage should survive one way or another, if not all of them. Would be more of a struggle if Guy can keep the 8-Gates mode permanently here, but even then, all the Hokage together should find the way to take him down for sure.

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    • Since the 8th gate comes with death, Guy always loses, even if he wins every battle.

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    • Ravenlot 27 wrote: You should specipy if you really do mean all the known Hokages, since it would include 7 people with Naruto also present, you know. I try not to underrestimate the power of the 8 gates Guy, but all the Hokage at once would be too much even for him. In the case the 8-Gates time limit is still kept, then some of Hokage should survive one way or another, if not all of them. Would be more of a struggle if Guy can keep the 8-Gates mode permanently here, but even then, all the Hokage together should find the way to take him down for sure.

      I don't think I was clear in my question, was I? Sorry about that! I meant that Guy fought each Hokage individually and he suffered no damage from recoil. He also does use it permanently and the Hokages go up to Naruto.

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    • from the first hokage to last? hashirama can do a loooot of damage, and can heal too. he would get defeated so.. tobirama would most probably find a weakness we didn't even know about. still lose. I suppose after hiruzen, guy would be at his last 30-20 percent of power man, maybe less.. he would lose anyways, though.

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    • If Guy can use it without any drawbacks, Guy stomps all of them. The only one I see that can stand up to Guy would be Naruto, but since Guy is much faster than Six Paths Madara, we can assume he is much faster than Six Paths Naruto. We also know Six Paths Obito beat the 4 Hokage (Hasirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, and Minato) in speed, and Six Paths Madara and Naruto are faster than SP Obito.

      TL;DR: Guy wins as he blitz's and one hits every Hokage (except for maybe Naruto, though he would still lose) before they even know what hit them, and he can use 8 Gates without any drawbacks.

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    • It'd be a little more fair if it was all the Hokage at once. One at a time, Guy makes mincemeat of them. Especially if he suffers no drawbacks from the eight gates

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    • when it gets to kage Naruto though, he would get annihilated. who would win- momoshiki or guy?

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    • I wouldn't say annihilated. I mean, Guy was tossing around Juubi Jin Madara easy and very nearly killed him. Now Guy doesn't have a limit on his abilities and suffers no drawbacks. Naruto could fight back, but the others are most likely dead. Minato and Tobirama might survive by teleporting away as Guy tries to hit, and Hashirama maybe by healing for a little bit. But Guy would kill all of them and possibly Naruto too.

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    • Guy.

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    • I have my reasons, Asian, or opinions as u might say. im one of those guys that's believes that no cloak spsm Naruto= juubi madara pre shinju= 8th gate guy= juubito= toneri tenseigan chakra mode, and so on and so forth.. that's how I see it man. that's why I believe that guy would lose against Naruto. and guy would have been damaged by the other kage either way so.. im not trying to make any more conflict ok?

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    • Okay then how about Guy vs the Hokages up till the 6th all at once?
      1v6 and the no recoil and immunity to 8th gate death still apply

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    • oh, now that's better... outta 10 rounds, guy would get 5/10 or less..

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    • Prime SPSM naruto>one eyed jubbi madara.So guy beats every hokage besides naruto.

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    • Prime SPSM Naruto was never greater than 1 Eyed Jubbi Madara. Do you even know what you are saying?

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    • Fact is, Guy lost to Madara. In the end, Madara was the one "standing", and Guy would have died if it wasn't for Naruto. Also, he did get help from Kakashi, Lee and Minato, and still wasn't able to take Madara down. Anyway, back to the topic, the fact that Guy doesn't suffer from recoil of gates plays a huge part in this scenario.He can pretty much fight as long as he wants without tiring himself, escpecially since his atacks are not chakra-based.I think he takes it against the first 6 hokages and could go either way against Naruto.

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    • Naruto hasn't made advanced use of the TSB's, so tbh, I think Guy will ultimately beat Naruto as well. Hell, with the Evening Elephant, his attacks get increasingly faster. Imagine if Guy just kept moving and throwing Evening Elephants without stopping?

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    • naruto's sensing is the best in the Narutoverse.. I don't think he could get blitzed or anything like that, so easily... and I think that Naruto is physically stronger than guy too (now at least)... and naruto's rasenshuriken is a one-hit jutsu, and guy doesn't get any defense augments from the 8 gates either so.. oh, and Naruto has frog kata, which is almost undodgeable, and perfect against taijutsu.. most of guys jutsu/taijutsu are pretty op, but the only one able to take down Naruto is night guy, which I think is very hard to hit, and takes too much time to prepare. I think he wins against all the other kage, still suffers damage of course, but will lose ultimately to Naruto.. either by being all beat up from the other kage, or Naruto just wins by himself

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    • If Night Guy was hard to hit, Madara wouldn't have been hit by it. Night Guy completely obliterated almost half of Madara's body, with only a kick. Naruto isn't as physcally strong as 8 gates Guy. He only keeps up with his more versatile skill set.

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    • Guy's feats with taijutsu are yet to be surpassed...
      Having said this hashirama with SM also will not survive this fight. Same with all other hokages, Minato too can seal Guy (I hope OP isn't forgetting that), though I would like to see which is faster here FTG Or Night Guy; So my guess FTG users in this fight could win.
      Naruto vs Guy.. Naruto would win if he has TSB or else he would lose regardless of his abilities(though I doubt even with tsb he won't survive night Guy , and if guy uses it from start naruto is goner).

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    • Minato might be fast enough to survive a little. His usage of FTG is faster than Evening Elephant's fastest step. But I don't think Tobirama is skilled enough to replicate the feat with FTG

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    • Bending space>teleportation.Night guy is faster than FTG.

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    • Kakashisologod wrote: Bending space>teleportation.Night guy is faster than FTG.

      Night Guy may be faster, yes. But is Guy gonna just Night Guy everyone? I know that he doesn't suffer from the repercussions of the 8 gates themselves, but his leg shatters when he uses it from the kick alone.. He'd probably save it for Naruto.

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    • AsianReaper wrote:

      Kakashisologod wrote: Bending space>teleportation.Night guy is faster than FTG.

      Night Guy may be faster, yes. But is Guy gonna just Night Guy everyone? I know that he doesn't suffer from the repercussions of the 8 gates themselves, but his leg shatters when he uses it from the kick alone.. He'd probably save it for Naruto.

      I think that not suffering repercussions of the 8 gates includes not getting his bones shattered. That's why i think it's kind of an unfair advantage.

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    • That doesnt make sense, his bones shattering isn't a direct result of the 8 gates, it's just because his bone broke from too much force. If Guy is immune to bone breaking, how would anyone hurt him?

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    • I think the OP meant that he is immune to the dmg of eight gates,not from the dmg of hokages.

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    • AsianReaper wrote: That doesnt make sense, his bones shattering isn't a direct result of the 8 gates, it's just because his bone broke from too much force. If Guy is immune to bone breaking, how would anyone hurt him?

      But the only damage he took during the Madara fight was because of the bone shattering. He was also shattering bones during the first Sekizo session. If he's not imune to shattering bones, then he will pretty much fight just like he fought Madara and end up destroying himself.

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    • night guy doesn't bend space. guy just put so much strength and power into his kick, that it started to amass potential energy, so it started to change the mass around him and create kinetic energy strong enough to bend space. remember night guy isn't a ninjutsu. it doesn't have "special abilities" nor "conditions" and such.. and since nobody disagreed that if guy got hit by a raseshuriken he would be dead, and that his speed doesnt work as well on sensor of the lvl that Naruto is in, I suppose Naruto would win anyways.. madara did see it coming too, but anime doesnt allow the main villain to dodge the most powerful kick in the certain animeverse at hand.. this is some basic stuff.. not sayin madara would've just gotten out of way like that, cuz at least minato could try and tag him and guy together just so guy could hit night guy. so many guys around here.. lol.. but madara could've tried and dodge it u know.

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    • No,madara said What?He is bending space?He didnt want to dodge,but he wouldnt had been able to even if he wanted to.

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    • bro, if anybody has time to say, and think about a random dude bending space right in front of u, u will obviously move outta the way.. that's enough time to dodge.. sorry, but im right this time, for once.

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    • Madara didn't want to get hit.

      He already stated that if he got hit by four or five Evening Elephants, it's be bad, and he most definitely couldn't let Guy connect with him directly. Madara said all that.

      It's like part 1 Sasuke vs part 1 Lee. Just because Madara saw it coming, it didn't mean he could move out of the way.

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: bro, if anybody has time to say, and think about a random dude bending space right in front of u, u will obviously move outta the way.. that's enough time to dodge.. sorry, but im right this time, for once.

      I have already agreed with u many times,though u are not right about this one.Plus how is madara supposed to dodge something thats is much faster than him?

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: bro, if anybody has time to say, and think about a random dude bending space right in front of u, u will obviously move outta the way.. that's enough time to dodge..

      Speech and thoughts in Naruto don't exactly follow logical rules. Many time we've seen people talk in stead of actually fighting, or thinking before defending. It's not an argument for anything.

      Although, in a sense, maybe they do follow the regular rules. If you're fast like we've seen ninja be fast, their thoughts and reflexes need to be equally fast (in fact, i'd say they need to be faster). Logically, the speed of thought in the Naruto verse ought to be orders of magnitude about how fast regular humans think.

      Similar rules apply to speech (if you've ever tried addressing a large room of people without a microphone, you'd know the talking in Naruto is completely unrealistic), as Naruto and Obito can talk across hundreds of meters without shouting apparently. Naruto and Sasuke can stand atop several dozen meter tall statues in full wind and yet speak normally.

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    • And bending space is faster than teleportation.

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    • Kakashisologod wrote: And bending space is faster than teleportation.

      Nothing is faster than teleportation. Teleportation is instant. No metter how fast Guy moves, he still travels the distance which takes a bit of time. Teleportation gets you there instantly regardless of distance.

      Of course, if the FTG user is hit before they react, that isn't a problem. Minato has only shown to be able to teleport faster than Evening Elephant's fastest step, which is slower than Night Guy. It's up for debate about whether or not he could teleport out or not.

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    • Kakashisologod wrote: And bending space is faster than teleportation.

      Given that I agree with AsianReaper (bending is not faster than teleportation)... even if it was, then what? The "space bending" is a side effect from Night Guy, it is not something that Guy can control so it won't stop Minato or Tobirama to teleport away.

      Said so: if Guy will fight the Hokage one at a time, he will win. Given that is good-for-nothing father could at least survive against the seven swordsmen for enough time to allow Guy and the rest of the team to flee to safety - and given how Madara was completely overwhelmed by Guy - there is no way for any of the hokage to win this. Hashirama and Naruto would last longer than the other, and Minato and Tobirama would probably be able to escape for some time, but even with only the Evening Elephant Guy in the end will obliterate them.

      If the fight is Guy vs all the Hokage ad once, in the end I think he will lose, moreover if they can keep Tsunade alive & healing them with Katsuyu. Note that in this last part of reasoning I kept out the possibility that Guy could spam Night Guy every time he wanted, because as someone already stated the effect on the bones of Guy are not a drawback of the Eight Gates but an effect of the hard impact of the kick

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    • well, Naruto is tougher (physically) than madara. sasuke cut madara in half with chidori, while when Naruto was hit he was just thrown away.... pretty sure Naruto wins this.. easily.

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: well, Naruto is tougher (physically) than madara. sasuke cut madara in half with chidori, while when Naruto was hit he was just thrown away.... pretty sure Naruto wins this.. easily.

      I doubt Naruto is tougher than Madara. It was likely the Six Paths Yin Seal's power that helped Sasuke inflict damage on him. Hell, the Limbo Clones were practically invulnerable unless Six Paths Chakra was used within the attack. It's safe to say that the Seal helped in some aspect.

      Even if the seal didn't help, it was Plot that let Sasuke damage Madara and not slice Naruto in half with his Chidori. I mean, Sasuke bisecting Naruto in their final battle makes it quite lame if you ask me, especially if you want to make their last fight worthwhile.

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    • Could we please get back to the topic at hand?
      Also, Reaper is correct, I only said that he had no repercussions from the 8 gates, but Night Guy's recoil isn't included in that.

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    • Tsunade is very vulnerable, and she is possibly the weakest Hokage out of them all, so she will just be a medic. Sharingan or not, Kakashi would lose instantly, he's never been a match for Guy ever. Hiruzen may put up a pretty good fight along with Hashirama, not sure about Tobirama though. Naruto in his 6PSM along with Minato's Kurama Chakra Mode(assuming he has it) may be pretty tough for Guy to handle maybe. Regarding Guy though, will he ever get exhausted at one point? Will his 8 Gates power eventually end or is he able to keep fighting nonstop?

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    • Hiruzen isnt comparable to ttj madara lol.

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    • Kakashisologod wrote: Hiruzen isnt comparable to ttj madara lol.

      He could teleport, Use Nara Paralysis,Mind destruction jutsu and so on....

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    • Sigh.He never showed using it.

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    • Kakashisologod wrote: Sigh.He never showed using it.

      Does has the proof...,going by that TTJ Madara can't beat Hiruzen just because it wasn't shown.

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    • TTJ madara defeated opponents FAR stronger than hiruzen,so moot point.

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    • Kakashisologod wrote: TTJ madara defeated opponents FAR stronger than hiruzen,so moot point.

      defeated whom? TTJ didn't defeat any 1 going by the feats....

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    • look, guy had help (lee, minato, obito, gaara, kakashi), and madara was missing half of kurama (half of the most powerful bijuu.. quite important), and madara was missing an eye.. pretty sure guy's not as strong as u guys think.. yes, of course he is strong, but he's just not that madara lvl.. at imo.. guy could kill obito easily on his defense, but madara was even better than obito so.. Naruto was going against a emi-injured madara of the same lvl that guy fought him in.. that, imo, makes spsm Naruto (no cloak form) more powerful than guy already, and that's why I say that Naruto would win by himself

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: look, guy had help (lee, minato, obito, gaara, kakashi), and madara was missing half of kurama (half of the most powerful bijuu.. quite important), and madara was missing an eye.. pretty sure guy's not as strong as u guys think.. yes, of course he is strong, but he's just not that madara lvl.. at imo.. guy could kill obito easily on his defense, but madara was even better than obito so.. Naruto was going against a emi-injured madara of the same lvl that guy fought him in.. that, imo, makes spsm Naruto (no cloak form) more powerful than guy already, and that's why I say that Naruto would win by himself

      Madara had biggest cheatcode/Help ever if you are really talking abt strength, he had TT, Zetsu, Hashi's regeneration, SM,TSB,Rinnegan .....Guy was true shinobi who came to that level by his own nindo. Never underestimate that regardless of help guy had, also if madara didn't had those TSBs he would be dead long before...
      EMS madara should be weaker than obito...

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    • @Namikazenaruto there is a diffrence between u earning something and others helping you.

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    • alive, yes ems madara is weaker than juubito, but imo, if u put madara with kurama he wins against juubito. by the way, madara just by having tt would've gotten him tsb, sm, wood release, regen., and all the other things u mentioned earlier.. but that still doenst cut it, cuz guy did have a lot of help.. having ninjutsu doenst mean having help.. madara didn't have any help at all. zetsu wanst any help during the fight itself.. before and after he was, but during it, he was useless. the rinne, he got for himself, with no help either. yes tsb are op, almost stupidly op, but he could've used susanoo ribs, limbos, and even wood release as defense so...

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    • Kakashisologod wrote: @Namikazenaruto there is a diffrence between u earning something and others helping you.

      are you saying regarding TTJ madara vs Guy? with Guy getting help.. but who is earning here?

      Lorenzo.r.1st wrote:

      alive, yes ems madara is weaker than juubito, but imo, if u put madara with kurama he wins against juubito.
      EMS madara would be weaker than base obito(though that's topic for another day), and saying madara could win against jubito with kurama is foolishness especially when both of them can't touch TTJ(lack of senjutsu)

      Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: by the way, madara just by having tt would've gotten him tsb, sm, wood release, regen., and all the other things u mentioned earlier.. but that still doenst cut it, cuz guy did have a lot of help.. having ninjutsu doenst mean having help.. madara didn't have any help at all. zetsu wanst any help during the fight itself.. before and after he was, but during it, he was useless. the rinne, he got for himself, with no help either. yes tsb are op, almost stupidly op, but he could've used susanoo ribs, limbos, and even wood release as defense so...

      what abt Ten-Tails(chakra of the complete world) was helping madara survive (the ultimate regeneration, attack and defense power in narutoverse) fighting against worn-out kakashi, Guy and without hands (below prime and without kurama)minato(mind you rock lee was of no use) also zetsu would have been more useful than minato in straight up fight.
      Also are you seriously suggesting that Susanoo or wood release could have saved madara when he had no time to stop attacks in any other way except use TSB to save himself?
      I doubt even limbo would have stop guy's attack because of incredible speed
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    • lol duh.. susanoo is instantaneous.. okay, madara cant win vs juubito cuz lack of senjutsu, ur right on that. guy wanst using chakra, so its not like its was gonna run out.. limbo is instantaneous too bro. and guy was easily gonna get hit by tsb, if it wasn't by GAARA levitatin LEE, who threw MINATO'S kunai, while KAKASHI kamui'd madara's shield.. where's the not useful part in that? tt isn't the ultimate defense in the narutoverse either. im not sure, but i think i stated before that sasuke's chidori cut madara, but not Naruto.

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    • That was when madara was usning evening elephant not night guy.

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    • don't really see a difference.. forgot to mention, madara could use shinra tensei too..

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: lol duh.. susanoo is instantaneous.. okay, madara cant win vs juubito cuz lack of senjutsu, ur right on that. guy wanst using chakra, so its not like its was gonna run out.. limbo is instantaneous too bro. and guy was easily gonna get hit by tsb, if it wasn't by GAARA levitatin LEE, who threw MINATO'S kunai, while KAKASHI kamui'd madara's shield.. where's the not useful part in that? tt isn't the ultimate defense in the narutoverse either. im not sure, but i think i stated before that sasuke's chidori cut madara, but not Naruto.

      Limbo instantaneous? wow how we are moving up in exaggeration... it's limted to madara' s own speed, that's one of the reason why naruto was able to match them with shadow clones.
      Susanoo clearly takes time to become strong enough, and it not even close to stopping any of guy's attack, IT will break instantaneously.
      Lastly if Guy had started with Night Guy even TSB won't have helped madara survive the attacks.(since it clearly bent TSB when madara tried to use it to stop night guy), Also if I remember correctly guy wasn't able to use complete potential of 8 gates especially when he let up several of evening elephant hits in first attempt; think how much damage now he could do if he doesn't suffer those repercussions!!

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    • Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: don't really see a difference.. forgot to mention, madara could use shinra tensei too..

      There is a diffrence between moving very fast and BENDING SPACE.

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    • yes.. bendin space is not a speed in the first place.. so ur not even talkin two things that are classified as the same.. bending space is done by how dense, volume, mass, and energy, and what type of energy its has.. it literaly has no similarities to speed at all. and what I meant by limbo being instentanoius is that madara creates them ex nihilo bro.. (means really fast and outta nothing).. they have a limited time for existence, but they are made in less then the blink of an eye. oh, and sologod, what di u mean by "That was when madara was usning evening elephant not night guy".. I didn't really quite know what u meant bro..

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    • Ugh i wanted to say guy not madara.

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    • cool.. seems like I was right on my last comment, so the misreading/miswriting doesn't matter to me anymore.. at least im happy now.

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    • I think its already been established that Madara is one of the strongest characters (If not THE strongest) in the Narutoverse, but this is Hokages vs Guy, not Madara vs whoever tf we can name. Sorry if I sound like a cranky old man xD

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    • u.. don't.. u just sound weird.. he's, imo, weaker than prime kaguya, hago, and maybe even prime hamura (when he had the tenseigan and shit).. the one/two person(s) i put under madara when makin top strongest lists, is/are Naruto (three headed kurama/indra kurama mode) and/or sasuke (bijuu/ indra susnoo).. they might even be stronger than madara in those forms.. but that's just my opinion so it doenst count.. whats ur top ten? oh, and madara only ever got waay too op imo, was when he got the shinju.. before that, guy, Naruto, sasuke, obito, and characters like that, if worked together could've won against him.. but its still my opinion, so u guys don't care...........

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    • Dude hagoromo was a bit stronger than 1 eyed jubbi madara without shinju trunk.3 eyed god madara is defenetly stronger than both hagoromo and hamura.And 3 eyed god madara could win against madara since he has no weakness.

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    • Hey. Hey. Lets stop talkin about Madara for a bit. Unless it's regarding a relevant feat, Madara doesn't belong in this discussion

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    • cool... just sayin: sologod, think we can a thread bout that? (the hago/hamura/madara thing)... will guy run out of chakra? (the gates use chakra to amp the body, so no chakra, means no gates).. Naruto wont, for one, just cuz of kurama's limitless time to mold its own chakra and give it to Naruto (inside his belly), or kurama could just keep makin sage chakra.. at the long run, Naruto obviously wins. the kages aren't edo (i presume), so that means that they are on their primes, and will most surely give guy a hard time. once Naruto gets into battle, it will almost be over already. Naruto could try and explode a bijuu dama at blank range so that guy cant dodge nor escape, while Naruto has way more endurance, so he might survive the explosion.

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    • Dude guy is too strong for kages to give him a hard time.And naruto cant just walk up to him and fire bijjudama,guy isnt stupid.

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    • did u even read what I wrote? if guy gets close to him, Naruto would just fire at the groud, where it would explode on impact.. if he gets by naruto's jutsu, he might as well be done for (the same goes for guy's taijutsu, which are all 6-10 shot jutsu [to kill], besides night guy, which is one shot [to kill]) but most of naruto's jutsu are 1-shoters man.. if guy gets hit, he dead. cant argue with rasenshuriken's ability to dismantle cells and shit

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    • Evening Elephant is easily a one-shot for anyone who doesn't have TTJ durability.

      Considering Madara couldn't dodge Guy's attacks, it stands to reason that Naruto can't.

      Naruto's only shot at winning is if the Hokage use teamwork and sacrifices to give Naruto the opening he needs.

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    • And night guy speed>>>any of narutos jutsu speed.

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    • Asian, Naruto is way faster than madara.. he blitzed kaguya (couldn't find a better word) for one, dodged madara's yin lightening release that's the speed of light at a blank range, and he's a better sensor.. even if he wasn't as fast as madara, his sensing is gonna help him.. a lot.. and Naruto isn't a ttj, as u mentioned, but he does have a cloak that's made of all the bijuu's chakra. so I suppose the compressed chakra of all the bijuu around naruto's body is pretty tough.. tough enough that it withstood sasukes's chidori. Naruto will most probably die if he got hit night guy, I aint gonna argue with that, but he can, and will have a better chance at dodging it than madara did (he just kinda stood there). if Naruto hits one bijuu bomb, or rasenshuriken the battle is over.. guy will dodge 90 percent of them, but the same goes for Naruto getting hit by night guy, which guy can only use once. is guy faster than an explosion? (actual question).. like, can guy escape the explosion range of a regular sized bijuu bomb? I think guy's hirudora is as strong as a bijuu bomb, but is he tries to counter the bijuu bomb with a hirudora, the explosion is kinda gonna kill him.

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    • Dude kaguya was weakend after tp from so many dimensions.And may i reming u sasuke nearly blitzed at point she needed to tp to the dimension that costs HUGE amount of chakra.Ofc she would have harder time dodging naruto.Madaras lighting jutsu isnt moving at the speed of light since he needed his chakra cloak to save him from sasuke ameno+chidori combo.

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    • yes, it is. the databook said so. read it. kaguya had less chakra. we all know that. doesn't mean she got distracted, and wanted to a rest, or that she was getting unconscious either. can u rewrite this ".Madaras lighting jutsu isnt moving at the speed of light since he needed his chakra cloak to save him from sasuke ameno+chidori combo." but in readable way please.

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    • I'm pretty sure he means that Madara's Sage Art: Storm Release Light Fang wasn't the speed of light, as Naruto dodged it but couldn't dodge Sasuke's Chidori when he used Amenotejikara to switch places with a TSB during their final battle.

      There is one thing wrong about that, Madara's Jutsu was indeed the speed of light (as stated by the databook), and there is a huge difference from moving your head to the left slightly to dodge an attack from the front and moving your entire body to dodge an attack that was behind you. Naruto even managed to turn half way before it hit.

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    • if u see his face u can tell he saw it comin (don't ask me why he didn't dodge it, cuz I don't know either). who is faster: ur neck, or ur arm? if u use logic and common sense, ur arm is gonna be faster. since naruto's neck moved at the speed of light, and he's arm is even faster than his neck, u can have a general idea of speed overall.. kinda simple. thanks untappedrage ;)

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    • I'm pretty sure the beam itself is the speed of light, but the actual swing of the beam isn't. It can't be. So Naruto isn't reacting to attacks the speed of light. He's reacting to a beam that's moving as fast as Madara can swing his head.

      Madara didn't "just kind of stand there." He simply wasn't fast enough to dodge it. It's like when Sasuke fought Lee for the first time. Just because you can see an attack coming, it doesn't mean you can dodge.

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    • it should kinda be though... at least sometimes.. but its the narutoverse so.. and madara did see guy getting prepared, and he knew that the incoming attack was a kick, so give me some credit now. that's almost inexcusable, madara... I thought u were the real deal madara... u disappointed me... but if u see the attack, how close Naruto and madara were to each other, and then consider the speed of the attack itself, u will then know what I mean. but, no, madara's swing of the beam wasn't at the speed of light at all. ur correct on that. although that does prove that naruto's eyes are fast enough to follow light itself, since that thing was basically a laser... now, madara's killimg me, man.. getting by guy is one thing.. but getting cut in half by sasuke!!?? just die madara... again... and no more edos this time!!!

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    • He got cut in half by sasuke cuse he didnt even want to dodge that attack.

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    • I know, bro.. im just jokin. just wanted to put some passion and emotion into it, u know..

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