Actionmanrandell wrote:
the effects of the shared vision is obviously permanent otherwise the eyes would cease to being Rinnegan once the chakra receivers were removed.it's not.
Pain attacked almost immediately after Jiraiya's investigations. Why do you think? because it's only a limited time effect. The rinnegan pattern fading would've instantly revealed the nature of the technique. Pain simply attacked before that would happen.
It's not evidence that it's permanent, not in the least. If they were, it would inevitably have been mentioned again.
That's speculation. He only came for the chakra receivers. Which is why he went out of his way to get them from the Animal path.
@Randall, no they don't have to be a transmigrant to use the eyes, only a Senju or Uzumaki is needed, as shown with Nagato. Yamato or Tsunade could also use those eyes.
QuakingStar wrote: That's speculation. He only came for the chakra receivers. Which is why he went out of his way to get them from the Animal path.
And the idea that they're permanent is not?
Of course he came for the receivers. They could pinpoint his position. The eyes would fade anyway, he doesn't need to do anything special about that. If they were real rinnegan, don't you think he would specifically have gone after them too?
See, I would believe that, if it wasn't shown that even after the TB's and the chakra receivers were removed from the Edo SPoP that they still kept their Sharingan and Rinnegan. Considering that once the receivers were removed the chakra was instantly cut off, there would be no residual and no fading. I already did my research on this so you coming here with your speculation changes nothing.
^ Mind telling the chapter that shows Edo!Jinchūriki still having Sharingan and Rinnegan after removal of chakra receivers and Tailed Beasts?
Obito rips the TB's from them. Then in the chapter that the Edo is released, more specifically you can see it better in the anime.. the SPoP edo jins still have their Sharingan and Rinnegan.
QuakingStar wrote: See, I would believe that, if it wasn't shown that even after the TB's and the chakra receivers were removed from the Edo SPoP that they still kept their Sharingan and Rinnegan.
They kept their eyes just as long as the one Pain. If the eye pattern stays a while after being cut off, then it logically would last just as long for the Edo Tensei as it would for the Pain.
QuakingStar wrote: Considering that once the receivers were removed the chakra was instantly cut off
This in itself is speculation. The jutsu themselves aren't cast from the rods, therefore chakra has to be stored in the body, however little and however temporary.
QuakingStar wrote: so you coming here with your speculation changes nothing.
What you're saying is just as speculative. you just refuse to see it that way.
It's even greater speculation that these clearly fake rinnegan have any power of their own. Yet you accept that without question.
@QuakingStar So you mean chapters 589 and 590, where in former only one edo!jinchūriki is shown having eyes open(Yagura I believe) and he doesn't have neither sharingan or rinnegan, and only anime shows edo!jinchūriki still having them? Hmm...
I just looked again at the viz digital colored chapter, the eyes have indeed faded to white for the Edo Tensei Yagura after the TB and the rod were removed from him. Case closed. So the eyes are indeed powerful reflections through the use of chakra. THAT is why Konoha did not use the eyes.