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  • Rachin123
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    18:11, January 21, 2018

    In a fight to death who would win ?

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    • Pain soloes

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    • is itachi sick?

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    • Regardless of Pain's (Nagato's) form in this fight, he'd destroy Itachi anyway. Itachi has no chance either against 6 Paths of Pain or the Prime Nagato (with all the SPoP abilities in one body).

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    • Fartato doesn't have any possibility to defeat Itachi.

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    • thats cute kiddo, too bad you're wrong.

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    • Itachi will know the true meaning of Pain!!

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    • DarioAD wrote: Fartato doesn't have any possibility to defeat Itachi.

      Nagato has no chance against Itachi? That's a funny joke. All Itachi can really use against Pain is genjutsu and the Totsuka no Tsurugi, but Nagato's power is too great for any illusion besides Tsukuyomi to work and the Sword works only if it hits Nagato directly, the Paths don't mean s**t.

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    • Pain would win but if Itachi uses Totsuka blade or kotoamatsukami,then Itachi would win but otherwise Pain would win.

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    • No one really thinks about strategy often on this forum. On Paper, Pain also destroys sage mode naruto except naruto actually used his head and created diversions to kill each Pain. Naruto at his best intellectually only scrapes the surface of what Itachi Uchiha can do. Intelligence Matters guys.

      First of all, its been shown that Itachi has a good grasp on how the rinnegan works. For example, he knew how to disable the shared vision of Nagato's summons, near instantly grasped how to defeat chibaku tensi, etc. So tell me, how hard is it for him, based on what we have seen of his combat strategy, to pull off a similiar tactic that naruto did against the Pains.

      Step 1: throw smoke bomb. Step 2: Itachi makes shadow clone behind the cover of the smoke. Proof he can do something like this is that in Part 1 versus kakashi, he made a shadow clone behind kakashi while the water barrier was up. Step 3: The shadow clone charges out of the smoke and starts a fire jutsu or runs towards the Pains and uses great clone explosion. Its in Pain's nature to use the Preta path to absorb techniques. Step 4: while nagato was focused on the events going on front, the real itachi flanked all the pains and takes out the Reviver PAin similiar to how naruto did. The Pain's like to use a T formation, meaning that when itachi appears behind the Reviver Pain, he can also run the totsuka blade through the two paths of pains standing in front of the Reviver PAin. Look at that , 3 pains down just like how naruto did in the manga... Step 5: Then in a quick sequence of events, itachi seeks to reak the benefits of his sucessful suprise attack from behind Pain: deflects shinra Tensi with the yata mirror, which bounces the deva path back. Itachi uses amaterasu on the Ashura PAin a few feet away with ease while using his superior speed to cut down the the Animal summoning Pain as it tries to summon. Step 6: Itachi versus Tendo Pain. Pain 's last hope is to attempt a chibaku tensi as itachi runs to finish him. If he uses almighty push the yata mirror deflects it back and Pain is vulnerable for at least 5 seconds. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out how this one ends. Again, if naruto can come up with a strategy using smoke bombs to take out Pain, so can itachi. My proof is naruto's battle with Pain and Itachi's intelligence which has been corroborated multiple times in the manga.

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    • Izanagi and Izanami would also work against Pain.

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    • Important question: If Itachi uses genjutsu on one of the pains, wouldn't all of the other Pains (including Nagato) be affected since they all share the same eyes and the same mind and the same field of view? Especially considering the fact that Itachi specializes in visual genjutsu. So for instance if Itachi uses a strong enough genjutsu (like Tsukuyomi) wouldn't he pretty much defeat all 7 pairs of eyes at once?

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    • Ravenlot 27
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      21:42, January 6, 2018
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    • Vladosaurus wrote: Important question: If Itachi uses genjutsu on one of the pains, wouldn't all of the other Pains (including Nagato) be affected since they all share the same eyes and the same mind and the same field of view? Especially considering the fact that Itachi specializes in visual genjutsu. So for instance if Itachi uses a strong enough genjutsu (like Tsukuyomi) wouldn't he pretty much defeat all 7 pairs of eyes at once?

      This is also possible to be honest. But its unclear if Itachi can really pull that off. But i wouldn't put it past him. He would stil have to have genjutsu all 6 at a minimum, and I don't think the real nagato would be affected, but it won't matter because Itachi can just go home after he deals with the 6 pains. But yeah, we would need more information on how the pains are connected. We know nagato can control their bodies but we know he doesn't experience the same pain they do, he just can see the world through their eyes. Each body has its own chakra network, so in theory even if you tsukuyomi one of the pains the experience won't travel back to nagato himself.

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    • Vladosaurus wrote: Important question: If Itachi uses genjutsu on one of the pains, wouldn't all of the other Pains (including Nagato) be affected since they all share the same eyes and the same mind and the same field of view? Especially considering the fact that Itachi specializes in visual genjutsu. So for instance if Itachi uses a strong enough genjutsu (like Tsukuyomi) wouldn't he pretty much defeat all 7 pairs of eyes at once?

      Doesn't work that way, Jiraiya used genjutsu on 3 pains and only those 3 were affected.

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    • Once he gets rid of the chakra absorbing one and the reviver he can Amaterasu the rest except Deva Path.

      Thats the only one he may have a problem with.

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    • Yes, but Jiraiya didn't use visual genjutsu. He used sound genjutsu. And the paths of pain do not share the same ears. But they do share the same eyes. So what a path sees, the other do too. Itachi is a visual genjutsu specialist.

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    • All of the Pain's senses get relayed bavk to Nagato. Otherwise he wouldnt be ablebto have the conversations that he does.

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    • Yes, but Nagato wasn't directly affected by Jiraiya's genjutsu. Only the paths who heared and were around the sound of the genjutsu got affected.

      Same thing should apply to Itachi's genjutsu. Only the paths who would see Itachi's eye would get affected, right? But all the paths are visually link. So if one path looks in Itachi's eyes, techically all of them do. So even if Nagato wouldn't be affected directly, the other paths should be.

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    • We dont know how the other Paths or Nagato were effected by the genjutsu. Once Jiraiya killed the 3, Ma and Pa more than likely stopped casting the genjutsu. There was a pretty decent amount of time between when the genjutsu was casted, Jiraiya killing them, and the appearence of the rest of the Paths

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    • Vladosaurus wrote: Yes, but Jiraiya didn't use visual genjutsu. He used sound genjutsu. And the paths of pain do not share the same ears. But they do share the same eyes. So what a path sees, the other do too. Itachi is a visual genjutsu specialist.

      Genjutsu affects the brain, the eyes are just the medium through which it is cast. So the other pains won't be affected.

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    • to win, itachi would have to be as strong as a bijuu dama, faster than the raikage, no blind or unsafe spots, and most importantly, a lotta chakra. he doenst have any of those though, and these are only the minimal requirements just to defeat he deva path. multiply this by six, and he loses times 6.

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