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  • Fourth Kazekage is as strong as he was before death

    Lee is as strong as he was in 4SWW (Can open up to the sixth gate only)

    Both are at full strength and full chakra.

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    • Basically, it's the same situation, as Lee vs Gaara battle, albeit on higher level - I doubt Rasa really can keep up with Lee's 8 Gates speed, the same with his Gold Dust, but if he has enough intelligence to use some tricks to avoid the damage (for example, Substitution Jutsu) as Gaara did, he could outlast Lee and kill him when the latter would run out of energy and become defenseless.

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    • Rasa is Kage level shinobi, Lee isn't. Rasa will win.

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    • Minato 87 wrote: Rasa is Kage level shinobi, Lee isn't. Rasa will win.

      Usually, in the battles those who are fighting are shinobi, not ranks.

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    • Lee wouldn't just get a broken leg, it's gold, not just sand, if Rasa gets his leg (or any body part for that matter) held within the gold dust, you can say bye to that limb. However, Gaara only really won because of the sand (His mother) protecting him, Rasa doesn't have power like that, so it's fair game. End Result: Either Foot Print on Rasa's face, or Lee will have no leg.

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    • Yeah, Gold Dust is heavy, but at the same time it must be slower than Gaara's sand, which already couldn't keep up with Lee's speed even without 8 Gates powerup (when he took off the weghts from his legs). When Lee uses 8 Gates, I see no way for Rasa to stop or hurt him. His only chance is to wait until Lee'd become exhausted, and then finish him off. But to do this, Rasa needs to survive all the attacks of Lee in 8 Gates state, which is obviously not an easy task for anyone.

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    • I still don't understand who would win? Does the Rasa have the sort of automatic protection that Gaara has? If so is it faster or slower? Will it hurt lee to punch or kick gold dust? If Rasa has a sort of golden skin armor (like Gaara did in the CE) can lee break it to hurt him?

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    • I am seeing the same thing I seen from Lee vs Gaara. Rasa's Gold Dust hasn't proved to be superior in no way than Gaara's sand. Rasa doesn't have the Shield of Sand as far as we are concerned either which played a big part for Gaara. I'm going with Lee but he'd at best need to open 3 gates. Lee wins in my opinion.

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    • Rachin123 wrote: I am seeing the same thing I seen from Lee vs Gaara. Rasa's Gold Dust hasn't proved to be superior in no way than Gaara's sand. Rasa doesn't have the Shield of Sand as far as we are concerned either which played a big part for Gaara. I'm going with Lee but he'd at best need to open 3 gates. Lee wins in my opinion.

      Yh I think Lee might win too but 3 gates? Don't you think that's a bit low? And although he's sort of unproven he's still a Kage so it would be safe to assume that he was the strongest in his village?

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    • ^In a village full of fodder, of course he'd be "one of the strongest". But on a serious note. I'm taking into account what we saw of him and what we saw of Lee and how Rasa's abilities aren't that impressive for Lee not to bypass as the main reason Lee didn't defeat Gaara was because his armor which Rasa doesn't have. Lee went into 5 gates to defeat Gaara because he knew his armor was very durable and needed his strongest attack to do serious damage. Unfortunately, Rasa isn't in that position so I stand ny what I say.

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    • Never thought about it but I would think Lee should win. Lee is extremely fast if Rasa has less than mediocre Taijutsu he will lose.

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    • Strenghts and weaknesses Rock Lee: Strenghts: speed and physical strenght, taijutsu and 8 gates technique (of which he can open 6), have fought Gaara (when both were genin) and therefore have experience with that type of figther. Has shown to be resilient and durable.

      waeknesses: no long range fighting and lack of nin- and genjutsu. Also he's not shown to be that bright and will bullrush headlong into battle.

      Rasa: Strenghts: long range figther, gold dust has proven to be fast enough to clash with Gaara's sand and can cover an exceptionally large area thereby dominating the battlefield, has taken down Shukaku (and we know that means strength). He's proven to be both observant and intelligent. If we take into account the fourth Databook then we know he's also profficient in Wind, Earth and Water release, add to that yin release and a number of hiden techniques.

      Weaknesses: stationary figthing style. Has shown no profficiency in close combat including strenght and speed due to his fighting style.

      Based on these examples I'd say Rasa would dominate Lee af a few minutes. Lee might be faster but considering that Rasa can dominate the landscape by digging his gold dust through solid earth: speed is kinda negated if your footing is extremely malable and can turn into a pitfall at less than a moments notice. Add Rasa's other abilities (assuming yin release cover genjutsu here) the fight is over in a few heartbeats.

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    • Yeah I think I take back Lee winning @Tzao has some good points and Rasa is quite strong and smart if he spent most of his time quelling Shukaku and creating new Jutsu's. Its not a reach at all Rasa has a Gold armour covering him like Gaara has and I can see him creating a gold sphere around him, using his third eye to spot lee and then drowning him is gold dust.

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    • I know Rasa is no idiot but neither is Lee. Lee os fighting smart. He knows what the best move to use to counter and such. He's not like Shino or Shikamaru in which they are more strategic smart. The biggest issue here also is the setting. The setting in this case can change the outcome a lot.

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    • Lee surpassed Gai by the time of the Last. There's no way Rasa could beat Gai.. so Lee has this.

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    • At Eight gates, Guy could run on air. At six gates, Lee shouldn't have an issue running on gold dust.

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    • QuakingStar wrote: Lee surpassed Gai by the time of the Last. There's no way Rasa could beat Gai.. so Lee has this.

      In this battle Lee can open only 6 gates.

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    • 6 Gates Lee wins this. Rasa is strong no doubt.. but he doesn't have the auto shield gaara has or the sand skin shield gaara can use. Lee will end Rasa.

      Nvrmind.. this is 4NWW Lee so he loses.

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    • Is this for real? Rasa beats Lee any day any time any version(except for a fucking insane Lee with all the Eight Gates Open.)

      Every one of the Akatsuki could have been a potential Kage had they remained Loyal, and Kisame was one of their strongest. Gai could take him down with much effort and I doubt Lee is ever that strong, much less the 'Last' version of Lee.

      Rasa was a Kage of one of the Big Five. He was one of the neutralizers that could take down an army. He took down Shukakau at full power. And basically the only reason most of Gaara's division didn't turn into a splatter of mangled bones and blood was because Kishimoto had to eliminate him the easy way through 'Emotional Release'.

      Rasa can beat Lee, not easily, but definitely do so.

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    • From what we have seen, most members of the Akatsuki could beat Rasa, so it isn't fair to use Kisame vs. Guy as an excuse. Where was it said that he could take down an army? The only reason why Rasa was able to beat Shukaku was because of his gold dust being heavier than sand. Also, as mentoined before, Lee should have no trouble walking on gold if Guy in eigth gate walked on air.

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    • The main problem is following - we don't know the full extent of Rasa's power. Yeah, he's a Kage level, but all we know about him is that he's a Magnet Release user, can control Gold Dust in similar manner with Gaara's sand and has an advantage against this sand because of the weight of his gold. Plus we have his nature types from the 4-th Databook. That's all.

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