^ just having a discussion about if nagato knew about sasuke's space-time rinnegan power and madara's limbo could he use them too?...if he could then it completely disregards the point of those techniques being "unique to the user" no?...at least thats what I think
GerizzyYMcrew wrote: ^ just having a discussion about if nagato knew about sasuke's space-time rinnegan power and madara's limbo could he use them too?...if he could then it completely disregards the point of those techniques being "unique to the user" no?...at least thats what I think
im not sure but have they been mentioned to be "unique to the user"?
GreatestSin wrote: im not sure but have they been mentioned to be "unique to the user"?
They're unique because they are only used by one person each. For all intents and purposes, these powers are unique to the user. Whether they're powers that can be learned is completely unknown. Given that Sasuke and Madara activated these powers upon gaining their eye without trouble suggests it's a truly unique power. However, MS powers were seen as unique until Sasuke got Amaterasu too. Statistically, there's no basis to assume that only Madara can use Limbo. It's possible that if you put 100 rinnegan users in a room, Limbo/Placeswitch is a 50/50 divide. Or that there are 100 unique jutsu. Or just about any other possibility.
Hence, it's not possible to absolutely prove that these powers are truly unique, nor is it possible to prove the opposite. However, i doubt it's a jutsu that can be learned.
Regarding Nagato, if we consider Kakashi's case there's in theory nothing stopping him from using that jutsu. However as Obito explained, using a Dojutsu that isn't yours costs a lot more willpower and chakra than normal. Limbo may simply be out of reach for Nagato.
Thekillman wrote: Hence, it's not possible to absolutely prove that these powers are truly unique, nor is it possible to prove the opposite. However, i doubt it's a jutsu that can be learned.
if the paths can be learned than i think the other powers would be too, exspecially since rinnegan always gave more than only the 6 paths, it always had chakra-disruption-blades and the outer path (or the ability to see invisible barriers), therefore i doubt that there are unique abilitys, mostlikely they need time to be mastered (like the time where sasuke used some of the paths without mastering and other paths havent been used because he simply not enough time to train them) ^_^
Madara couldn't copy Amenotejikara and Sasuke couldn't copy Limbo. Some might say that it's because they didn't have the time, but to me it looks like Itachi trying to learn Obito's Kamui despite not having the actual eyes capable of casting such jutsu. Obito and Nagato had Madara's Rinnegan, so they should've been able of using the jutsu displayed by the original owner, if they knew about them. Madara didn't tell Obito about Limbo, so it stands to reason that Obito and Nagato weren't able to cast the jutsu.
Madara recognised Amatarasu, so someone other than Sasuke and Itachi had it at a certain point in time. Perhaps trying to copy other MS/Rinnegan techniques is just harder.
LegionZero wrote: Madara recognised Amatarasu, so someone other than Sasuke and Itachi had it at a certain point in time. Perhaps trying to copy other MS/Rinnegan techniques is just harder.
That was most likely Izuna who had Amaterasu, considering Tobirama knew what it was too.
There may have been other Mangekyō wielders besides Madara and Izuna, you know. And "copying" other MS/Rinnegan jutsu, as far as I know, has never been done.
LegionZero wrote: Madara recognised Amatarasu, so someone other than Sasuke and Itachi had it at a certain point in time. Perhaps trying to copy other MS/Rinnegan techniques is just harder.
Considering Itachi and Sasuke's situation, it's far more likely that multiple people can have the same Mangekyou power. As mentioned above, Izuna is a likely candidate for Amaterasu. In a similar way, it may be possible for other rinnegan users to have Limbo, yet it remains an ability restricted to that one eye, just as Mangekyou abilities are restricted to the eye that has it.
Actionmanrandell wrote: she doesn't have all of their abilities her Rinne Sharingan has only 3 abilities
The whole point to Kaguya is that she can do anything with chakra.
JOA20 wrote: Madara couldn't use his Sharingan powers through the Rinnegan (he had to revert to EMS to put the Raikage in a genjutsu) while Sasuke can cast Amaterasu and genjutsu with his Rinnegan.
Actually, there is no evidence suggesting that his clones were using the Rinnegan in the first place.
And before you say: "The original was using Rinnegan."
I have seen Naruto create a base clone, while he himself was using Kurama mode. I don't see why a clone must default to the same eye power.