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  • I already asked this before, but there's still inconsistency. For example, I added to Yukata's infobox that she is a genin in Part II, because she was introduced there. However, now we have Yōrō, who has "Part I: Jōnin" in his infobox, despite technically being introduced in Part II as well, just during a flashback that shows what happens before Part II. So what is it now??

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    • When it comes to flashback arcs, regardless of if a promotion happens before or after Part I, it's regarded as during Part II.

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    • And I dare to say it's an absolute nonsense and just creates confusion.

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    • Elveonora wrote: And I dare to say it's an absolute nonsense and just creates confusion.

      Agreed. Also it's funny how the inconsistency just goes on and nobody seems to mind ("Part I" for these characters as well...), but I will go ahead and change it to Part II this evening myself, unless the discussion is about to continue of course.

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    • The timeskip period should be counted as Part 1 imo. Part 2 only starts when Naruto returns to the village. Everything before that event is considered Part 1.

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    • Exactly. Who cares an episode is Shippuden? If the events of it are from before Naruto's return, ages, rank and shit of those characters mentioned should be labeled Part I.

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    • The question is simply: Does that part in the infobox refer to the time the character was a genin or to the episode were it was said that the character was a genin?

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    • Only question: When the Konoha 11 become Chūnin, will we label them as Chūnin in Part I as well because I think we should make an exception for 'em specifically. Other than that, yes, we should keep all other as Part I.

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    • Omojuze wrote: Only question: When the Konoha 11 become Chūnin, will we label them as Chūnin in Part I as well because I think we should make an exception for 'em specifically. Other than that, yes, we should keep all other as Part I.

      Well, we should right now, since the Konoha 11 all became Chūnin (Neji jonin) before Naruto's comeback, which marks Part II's beginning.

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    • Technically, this is neither part I, nor part II. Part I ended with Naruto's leaving, part II began with his homecoming. Also, it's a filler and I don't think they count in these situations.

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    • Part 2 starts on the chapter when Naruto returns to the village. Any chapter or episode that comes before that point in the story line is "Part 1".

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    • Part 1.5 :P ... Nevermind, let's see how this story will go on to avoid creating more rooms in the infoboxes like we did in the Last and the epilogue.

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    • SuperSajuuk wrote: Part 2 starts on the chapter when Naruto returns to the village. Any chapter or episode that comes before that point in the story line is "Part 1".

      But that's illogical. Something that happens during a timeskip can't be a part of any of the "timelines" it skips.

      It should be "Post-Part 1" or "During the timeskip" or something like that. I mean, we don't count the blank period after Shippuden as during Shippuden, hm?

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    • Typically, the deciding factor is what portion of the series does the character appear in. For characters that appear in pre-series settings, such as Biwako, they're given whichever parameter matches where their associated flashback happens occurs. So I suppose this would be the same.

      In theory it shouldn't matter if a character gets the Part I or Part II parameter; I don't think the label is supposed to show up unless there's more than one value, but that's obviously not happening.

      Seelentau wrote: It should be "Post-Part 1" or "During the timeskip" or something like that. I mean, we don't count the blank period after Shippuden as during Shippuden, hm?

      Agreed. !vote for "Timeskip".

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    • So rather than "Post-Part I" and "Post-Part II," we will have "Timeskip" and "Post-Part II." /shrugs.

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    • Well, we have seven different settings (bolded are the main ones):

      1. Pre-Story (partly Kakashi Gaiden)
      2. Story (Part I)
      3. Timeskip
      4. Story (Part II, Shippuden)
      5. Timeskip (Blank Period)
      6. Tenth Movie (Two years after Story (Part II))
      7. Future

      So it should be like Snapper2 said. Or we'd have to add five more options.

      Also, isn't the tenth movie technically just another event that happens in the blank period-timeskip?

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    • WindStar7125 wrote: So rather than "Post-Part I" and "Post-Part II," we will have "Timeskip" and "Post-Part II." /shrugs.

      I maintain that "Post-Part II" is not a good division.

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    • I agree. I did not see the point in it either. So what do you suggest instead of "Post-Part II," SnapperTwo?

      Edit: I see "Timeskip (blank period)" in Seelentau's post...

      Maybe "Second Timeskip?" I do not know.

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    • The Last and Epilogue at one time had their own non-affiliated headings. I thought that was fine. If that's too many level 2 headings, could drop everything to level 3 and place them under a master "Plot" or something.

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    • Ah okay. I will just remove the "Post-Part II" thing then.

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    • So, will you all do the same for 'Part III'/the sequel?

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    • Unsure. We will know what to do when the time comes.

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    • Well, if we'd go by official terms, the second timeskip would have the header "Blank Period". The first timeskip doesn't have an official name.

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    • For the new header title, it should be called Pre-Shippuden and Pre-II for infoboxes. Its not its own sperate series but timeline and story board part yes. In some cases people already have that title but it should be an overall thing with exceptions like people who were only introduced in Part II basically, info for this part will go in background. Also is the current arc name Naruto's Back: Friends' Back legit? Like it just sounds misleading and terrible. But is this confirmed? From what source?

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    • "Blank Period" it is then. Wait, I think we named it "The Last: Naruto the Movie" instead.

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    • WindStar7125 wrote: "Blank Period" it is then.

      That's just dumb. Why not just refer to it as "Naruto's Training"? That gap between Naruto leaving and returning to the village was for the purposes of training, so referring to it as that (or just simply "Timeskip") would be better.

      If your referring to the timeskip between the end of the war, and 2 years later, that would probably be better called "After the War".

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    • ...Blank Period is the post-Shippuden timeskip, as I listed above.

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    • Seelentau, the timeskip after Part II, we named "The Last: Naruto the Movie" rather than "Blank Period."

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    • Part I

      Sasuke Recovery Mission

      ......... ..... ...... ..

      Pre-Shippūden (Filler) Arcs

      I think this will work. Its still before Part II.

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    • WindStar7125 wrote: Seelentau, the timeskip after Part II, we named "The Last: Naruto the Movie" rather than "Blank Period."

      Yes, but the timeskip is called "Blank Period". "The Last" comes after that.

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    • So it would go...

      "Blank Period"

      The Last: Naruto the Movie

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    • Seelentau wrote: Well, we have seven different settings (bolded are the main ones):

      1. Pre-Story (partly Kakashi Gaiden)
      2. Story (Part I)
      3. Timeskip
      4. Story (Part II, Shippuden)
      5. Timeskip (Blank Period)
      6. Tenth Movie (Two years after Story (Part II))
      7. Future

      So it should be like Snapper2 said. Or we'd have to add five more options.

      Also, isn't the tenth movie technically just another event that happens in the blank period-timeskip?

      It would go like ^This, Rachin123.

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    • Is that how it is exactly going to go or a rough draft version?

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    • Oh, and to answer your question Seelentau, I do recall the tenth movie being another event that happens during the blank period.

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    • A rough draft. At least some of those terms shouldn't be used. In articles, it could be:

      • Background
      • Part I
        • Blablabla
        • Timeskip
      • Part II
        • Blablabla
        • Blank Period
        • Tenth Movie
      • Epilogue
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    • Oh. I guess that can work. Would that mean we have to change ranks of people who are so and so rank in the last to Part II?

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    • Iirc, I recall the "Blank Period" being the time period between chapter 699 and the Epilogue, including the tenth movie like you said Seelentau.

      • Background
      • Part I
        • (Whatever happens in PI)
        • Timeskip
      • Part II
        • (Whatever happens in PII)
      • Blank Period
        • (Any other gaps)
        • Tenth Movie
        • (Light Novels if they are canon)
      • Epilogue
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    • Maybe we should write

      • Part III

      instead of

        • Tenth Movie
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    • So this?

      • Background
      • Part I
        • (Whatever happens in PI)
        • Timeskip
      • Part II
        • (Whatever happens in PII)
        • Blank Period
      • Part III
        • Tenth Movie
        • (Light Novels if they are canon)
        • Epilogue

      Or so.

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    • We need to come up with a name cuz Blank Period is not gonna work.

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    • Well, that is the official name, and you know how people here want to use official names so badly.

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    • WindStar7125
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    • Oh so that's the official name. I thought it was used for a substitute.

      Edit: So would that mean people like Sakura who are Jonin by two years later will be put down in her infobox in Part II instead of the Last? Also are we going to call the arc the new Chūnin Exams time-skip or...?

      Also what is the Blank Period for?

      I propose this. Sorry for double post.

      • Part I
        • Arcs for it
        • Pre-Shippūden
      • Part II
      • Post-Shippuden
        • The Last
        • Any other info canon or anime only before chapter 700
      • Part III
      • Epilogue (Prologue for Part III)
      • Buroto series arcs (If any applicable)
      • Buroto movie (possibly)
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    • We do not even use "Shippuden" we use "Part II," so "Post-Shippuden" would be just as redundant if not more than "Post-Part II."

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    • Well having Part III with The Last isn'tisn't right. The Last and epilogue are an extended version of Shippuden so it should be with Part II and thus creating a whole new header isn't necessary. The only one that should get a new header named Part III would be the Buroto series and its movie if canon.

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    • Nope, they're not extended versions.

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    • I said basically not exactly or we can give those time skips their own header but putting them all together especially with the new series is not going to work.

      • Part I
      • Part II
      • The Last: Naruto the Movie
      • Epilogue
      • Part III
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    • You didn't say "basically". Also, nobody cares about Boruto right now. That's stuff for the future.

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    • Oops I thought I did. Anyways yes the Buroto series isn't here yet so obviously we don't have to do anything however that shouldn't stop us from the discussing how we are going to do things. But this is how I see it going if anything:

      • Part I
      • Part II
      • The Last (link=The Last: Naruto the Movie)
      • Epilogue
      • Part III (When we get there for the Buroto series)
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    • But the Boruto stuff isn't part III. It's something new, it's not part of the Naruto series (as far as we know). The epilogue chapter 700 is part III, because it's the part that follows the second timeskip.

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    • So its a whole new series? Anyways until we get more info there's nothing to go on about that. Wouldn't the last be part III instead and Epilogue is an Epilogue, nough said.

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    • Quick question, where does "Part III" even come from? Is it an assumption that it's what the Boruto miniseries is going to be called? As I recall, the terms Part I and Part II are linked specifically to the "two halves" of the Naruto manga, and so the idea of a "Part III" doesn't really make sense.

      Suggestions:

      • Naruto Part I (or Naruto or Naruto Shōnenhen)
      • Interlude (Naruto final filler arc, Locus of Konoha, New Chūnin Exams)
      • Naruto Part II (or Naruto Shippūden)
      • The Last: Naruto the Movie
      • Naruto Hiden (novels)
      • Epilogue (final chapter)
      • <Miniseries title> (whatever it may be)
      • Boruto: Naruto the Movie (depending on when the film occurs)
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    • The Last is part of the Blank Period, if I recall correctly. The upcoming mini novels as well.

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    • WindStar7125 wrote: Iirc, I recall the "Blank Period" being the time period between chapter 699 and the Epilogue, including the tenth movie like you said Seelentau.

      • Background
      • Part I
        • (Whatever happens in PI)
        • Timeskip
      • Part II
        • (Whatever happens in PII)
      • Blank Period
        • (Any other gaps)
        • Tenth Movie
        • (Light Novels if they are canon)
      • Epilogue

      So this?

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    • What is the Blank Period. Nobody answered my question I been asked? Is it the two year time skip arc name or something?

      @Windy I go with it. Do we have to title it the "Tenth Movie" or can we call it short "The Last".

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    • Seelentau wrote: ...Blank Period is the post-Shippuden timeskip, as I listed above.

      ^Read.

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    • Yes. Just the light novels come before the tenth movie. Actually, the stuff that happened in Naruto 699 after the fight is over is already part of the blank period (Kakashi becoming Hokage etc).

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      • Background
      • Part I
        • (Whatever happens in PI)
        • Timeskip
      • Part II
        • (Whatever happens in PII)
      • Blank Period
        • (Extra contents of 699)
        • (Light Novels if they are canon)
        • Tenth Movie
      • Epilogue

      So it is this that is correct?

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    • Yup. Seems good. Looks like we found our new setup. Wait! For people who become a new rank in the time-skip of Part II do we change rank title in infobox to B.P. for short? Also do we change Tenth Movie to The Last?

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    • Nnnnno. The Blank Period is the name for the second timeskip, so it should be listed under Part II.

      The Blank Period is the period after part II, before chapter 700. If I recall correctly.

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      • Background
      • Part I
        • (Whatever happens in PI)
        • Timeskip
      • Part II
        • (Whatever happens in PII)
        • Blank Period
          • (Extra contents of 699)
          • (Light Novels if they are canon)
          • Tenth Movie
      • Epilogue (Chapter 700)

      So this?

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    • Exactly, WindStar.

      How the mini-series and the Boruto stuff play into the actual Naruto series is something we'll see later.

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    • @Windy I seen after I already posted my comment. So we agree that's how the setup will be?

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    • Alright then. And yes, we will deal with the mini-series and Boruto/Bolt/whatever-the-name-of-Naruto's-son-is later.

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    • Let's get started with the changes then :)

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    • That doesn't answer the initial question, though. We got off-topic so hard, it's not even funny anymore. :D

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    • Put it in my sandbox.

      And that is true. Sorry, Norleon.

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    • Lol true but at least we cleared this part up for the setup.

      Also that means we need to bring anybody's rank from the last and such to Part II right...?

      @Norlean Yes he was introduced by episode in Shippūden but the flashback is of Part I.

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    • The ranks in the character boxes should reflect the in-universe date, not what part of Naruto the episode aired in.

      So it's Part I: Jonin for those two guys.

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    • So just to confirm. We merge the last ranks, heights, etc into Part II since its technically part of it?

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    • Technically, it's part of the Blank Period, which is a timeskip. And timeskips aren't part of the times they divide.

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    • Okay but the Blank Period is of Part II as its still of Shippūden franchise. So the question again is do with merge the ages, heights, etc to Part II of the infobox? Example. Sakura is 5'4 in the last. Part II merged; 5'2-5'4

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    • How can a timeskip be part of the time it skips? It's like this: [---Part II---][---Blank Period---][---Epilogue---]. The blank period is the time between part II and the epilogue.

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    • I know where the Blank Period goes. So we need to contact someone to change The Last on the infobox to B.P, short for Blank Period.

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    • Would it be too long, otherwise?

      Also, we should probably have an article layout somewhere on the help sites.

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    • @Seel Answers:

      1st Question: Sort of yes.

      2nd: Yes we should. Sites have to update guides and stuff as they do main streams.

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    • Events that happen before a characters introduction should stay in background otherwise it cause's a cluster as in the case with Ajisai. If we were to move her background to Naruto's Back: Friends' Tracks arc, where would Ryūsui and Yūdachi delivering her corpse to Pain's tower be placed?

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    • Why would that be in the background, anyway? It happened after Jiraiya's death.

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    • Her corpse was delivered to Pain's tower by Yūdachi. Then sometime later he was captured by Jiraiya who sent him off to Konoha to get interrogated. There's no way that could of taken place after Jiraiya's death.

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    • Oh, yes.

      Anyway, since her background was updated, we wouldn't be having a background section for her anymore. I think.

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    • Another unspecific time period is with Karin. If her debut is changed it will start off in the chunin exam in part 1, followed by a period of time where she does a few things that cant be labeled as any arc and then we get to her being recruited into Hebi in part 2. This is why backgrounds shouldn't be changed.

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    • Then who decides where the background begins and where it ends?

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    • The way it is currently which is from birth to right before introduction seems to work quite fine.

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    • With the rankings, let's go with Part II this time and make an exception because, as we all know it, Konoha 11 will become Chūnin, and if that happens, they'll have to be added as Chūnin in Part I, which, not only would be false, but also create unnecessary confusion.

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    • Why would they have to be added as Chunin in Part I.? This is post-Part I. pre-Part II. the exceptions are those who do not appear in Part II. therefore their ranks are given as Part I. no?

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    • can't we just add a new section in the info box for the ranks?

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    • How much work would it take to restructure the wiki so that, regardless of when a filler arc aired, it's in chronological order? Because that would honestly save us a ton of stress and questioning.

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    • Exactly. We should never go the easier way, when there's a more correct way. We had the same discussion regarding the manga arcs, remember?

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    • Who could forget?

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    • Seems like I missed something. So in the articles, we consider the arc as "Part I", but in the infoboxes, their ranks are listed under "Part II"??

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    • They should be labelled as Part 1. No matter what people say, it's a Part 1 event for the reasons I previously stated right at the start of the discussion.

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    • Well, I dunno, I keep changing my mind on this. We list pre-Part I. stuff as Part I. so listing post Part I./pre-Part II. stuff as Part II. would follow that. Not to mention timeline-wise, this takes places close to the beginning of Part II.

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    • We list pre-Part I stuff as Part I?

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    • I recall Shadow of Anbu Arc as specifically Part II o.O

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    • Kakashi Gaiden is listed as Part I. or not? In my opinion, we should simply drop the whole "Part" thing in the infoboxes, it only does more harm than good. My suggestion would be "the first known age, weight, height, rank" and "the latest known age, height, weight, rank" etc.

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    • Kakashi Gaiden should be part of "Background" in the article text.

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    • Talking about infobox now.

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    • I agree with Elve. And I'm talking in general wise. It'd be a lot easier if the whole part I and Part II only options was gone or expanded where unless they are in these parts of time we could just leave their known age, rank, etc like if they are from flashbacks before even Part I. I also suggest for the setup it'd go...

      Infobox ex.

      Character: Rin

      Age: 14

      Height: 5'0

      Weight: 97 lbs.

      Rank: Chūnin

      Character: Tenten

      Age: Part II — 16

      Height: Part II — 5'3

      Weight: Part II — 104 lbs.

      Rank: Part II — Chūnin

      Page Setup

      • Part I
        • Chūnin Exams
        • Konoha Crush
        • Filler Arcs — Part I
        • Time-Skip
          • In Naruto's Footsteps: The Friends' Paths
      • Part II
        • Kazekage Rescue Mission
        • Tenchi Bridge Reconnaissance Mission
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