Elveonora wrote: It's much simpler. You add chakra to the Sharingan in order to upgrade it. Kaguya was the first one with chakra, all chakra for that matter, so there was nothing for her to upgrade, she got the One-eyed tomoe Rinnegan from the get go.
Exactly.
Didn't madara use susano'o when he had his Rinnegan active? The reason I'm asking is that I would imagine that if Hagoromo simply was born with the purple rinnegan he may have never needed to activate or achieve the necessary steps to 1. activate the sharingan 2. evolve the sharingan 3. develop the rinnegan
Thus its entirely conceivable that he simply can use the powers of a kaleidoscope eye from the time of birth.
Ultimately I think its sort of a moot point to get into a pissing match over, and Elveonora and TenTailedFox can word box for ten rounds easy.
Hiyayaka-kun wrote: Didn't madara use susano'o when he had his Rinnegan active?
Madara also used Susanoo without his own eyes. His Rinnegan doesn't affect his Susanoo.
I asked on other thread about Hagoromo having Rinnegan before becoming Juubi's jinch. I thought that he got Sharingan and Hamura got Byakugan (which is 'closer' to even than Rinnegan-Byakugan) and eventualy aweken Rinnegan after becoming jinch, aslo gaining SPST which was separated between his sons (in weaker version tho) and could be powered to max again by combining chakras. This is just speculation, not proof or anything ...
I'm just trying to make thing my own way in my head to satisfie this need for more information, don't ruin it guys, lol :P ... But not knowing anything about Hamura's power (except Byakugan) really pisses me off.
Daywakler wrote: I'm just trying to make thing my own way in my head to satisfie this need for more information, don't ruin it guys, lol :P ... But not knowing anything about Hamura's power (except Byakugan) really pisses me off.
Would it help if i said he had yin release and no eyebrows? lol
I think we are using the term for his doujutsu too loosely. We say Sharingan, but is that accurate? Just like how Kaguya's Rinnegan was unique would the evidence not suggest the same for Hagoromo's "sharingan". We have seen Indra had a unique appearance unlike any other EMS, MS, or Sharingan to date. In reality it looks like a degenerate form of the Rinnegan more than the sharingan. Even if it is not the case I think we can all agree Hagoromo probably held a Doujutsu unique to himself and for lack of a better word we simply are calling it a sharingan. The reality is he probably had something else entirely that developed into the Rinnegan.