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Is Madara turning into Kaguya?

  • I have been reading a bunch of theories about the last panel in the last page of Chapter 678, where Madara is screaming while Zetsu's arm is stuck through him. There was some speculation that the last panel looked like Madara was turning into Kaguya. I could see one of two possibilities right now.

    1) Madara turns into Kaguya, and we have a new arc with the final villain, Kaguya Otsutsuki.

    2) Black Zetsu is absorbing Madara's power and may resurrect Kaguya somehow?

    Thoughts on any of this would be greatly appreciated. <snip - no images>

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    • there are so many theories about latest chapter that is making things so confusing and they are just fantasies so we better wait for chapters that are coming. I dont know what to say about your questions but there might be a second coming of Kaguya somehow

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    • We will find out in about 80 hours from now.

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    • I'm still hoping that Madara will be able to repel Kaguya- I don't want this to be the end of Madara...

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    • Interesting I think that somehow Kaguya is going to comeback somehow but I think that Madara Black Zetsu sticking his arm through Madara might release react with Madara's cells or something and Kaguya will be reborn into Black Zetsu.

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    • Nah, turns out Kaguya also wants to get rid of the hate filling the world, but A Whole new party is actually trying to keep hatred in the world so they can summon a trio of deities to destroy the worlds balance(even if on the edge of it lol :) ). They are called the Warring Triad, The Trio Deities names a, Goddess, Fiend, and Demon. They will remake the world from being World of Balance to World of Ruin. :D :D :D lol

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    • What if Kaguya is a good guy? She was dying of old age and wanted to protect the world from future generations misusing her power, so she hid in the tree and waited for such a moment. I think that she is good, and she will kill Madara, become queen of the world, and end the war without any futhur fighting (or she fails to take full control of Madara and they fight for control, but eventually she wins). This would make the most sense because it would allow them to do another like 5 arcs about Kaguya reverting to her old ways and trying to enslave the world again.

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    • Honestly; praise the lord that Madara has a taste of his own medicine. Now lets see this guy die, because I"m tired of his face.

      In any case, we'll find out, but I predict that seeing as how Kishi likes to play on the concept of cells, him simply transforming into Kaguya isn't really... a theory. It's something that can easily happen.

      And no, Kaguya isn't going to try to save the world... in the way you think she will. Kaguya is be considered a "chaotic" good, as far as what we can see. If she's anything like Obito, she believes that there isn't in this world but hell and full of corpses. She has no real belief in humanity's good, and that's practically why Infinite Tsukuyomi exists. She's going going to keep that Infinite Tsukuyomi up there, and try to kill Sasuke and Naruto in the process.

      Thats how I see it, anyway.

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    • Maybe Kaguya would be reborn by using black zetsu's body or black zetsu would used madara's body to turn him into kaguya or he would mutate madara's body and turn madara into kaguya

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    • TaylorS.13 wrote: What if Kaguya is a good guy? She was dying of old age and wanted to protect the world from future generations misusing her power, so she hid in the tree and waited for such a moment. I think that she is good, and she will kill Madara, become queen of the world, and end the war without any futhur fighting (or she fails to take full control of Madara and they fight for control, but eventually she wins). This would make the most sense because it would allow them to do another like 5 arcs about Kaguya reverting to her old ways and trying to enslave the world again.

      Dude uauuu you just changed the whole subject from Naruto to Kaguya the Hero -_- its just like in the end she was the main character and naruto, sasuke etc completely forgettable....never but never go that level of craziness

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    • I think Kaguya is the real bad guy. Madara wanted to use infinite Tsukuyomi to let everyone live in an eternal dream but i bet kaguya wants them to live in an eternal nightmare. i think when she last used infinite tsukuyomi her sons and the whole world went against and killed her. so now shes back for revenge.

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    • Blake2014 wrote: I think Kaguya is the real bad guy. Madara wanted to use infinite Tsukuyomi to let everyone live in an eternal dream but i bet kaguya wants them to live in an eternal nightmare. i think when she last used infinite tsukuyomi her sons and the whole world went against and killed her. so now shes back for revenge.

      I agree, Kaguya was the one who first started everything by eating the fruit of the Shinju. It would be fitting to have her as the final villain.

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    • kishi already said that madara is the final villain.

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    • Well maybe would battle kaguya then he would win or something like that, but we must be open to other possibilities

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    • Snowlover123 wrote: I have been reading a bunch of theories about the last panel in the last page of Chapter 678, where Madara is screaming while Zetsu's arm is stuck through him. There was some speculation that the last panel looked like Madara was turning into Kaguya. I could see one of two possibilities right now.

      1) Madara turns into Kaguya, and we have a new arc with the final villain, Kaguya Otsutsuki.

      2) Black Zetsu is absorbing Madara's power and may resurrect Kaguya somehow?

      Thoughts on any of this would be greatly appreciated. <snip - no images>

      the wiki says that Zetsu was changing him with the use of will manifestation(the same technique that Madara used to create Black Zetsu. in other words black zetsu is causing Madara to manifest Kaguya's will he will likely turn black like zetsu

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    • (Spoiler pic removed since it should to be removed) Kaguya can be seen (has a good chance of ) joining the battlefield, madara being off panel probably Madara really got turned into Kaguya' manifestation. As to how or what really happened will have to wait in a couple of hours from now.

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    • Its a fake. Also, don't post spoiler pics here.

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    • obvious shoop is obvious

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    • MangekyoSasuke wrote: Its a fake. Also, don't post spoiler pics here.

      It is likely not a fake. we know she will appear on the battle field

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    • we know she will, but its still a fake. went and confirmed it myself.

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    • also, that first panel is from the last chapter. and notice how it says "deviant art" on the bottom...

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    • Muksiw wrote: (Spoiler pic removed since it should to be removed) Kaguya can be seen (has a good chance of ) joining the battlefield, madara being off panel probably Madara really got turned into Kaguya' manifestation. As to how or what really happened will have to wait in a couple of hours from now.

      I just noticed about the top panel. So sorry I just noticed the Kaguya pic and thought it's real. -_-

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    • Super Son Goku wrote: Well maybe would battle kaguya then he would win or something like that, but we must be open to other possibilities

      I guess you have a piont but how would kaguya apear? just like take madaras body or somthing?

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    • Well Kaguya wasn't necessarily a bad guy. She wanted peace throughout the world, it was just her method was a bit unorthodox. And ultimately, she learned that using the Infinite Tsukiyomi only stirred up more war once she canceled the genjutsu. So I think she truly wanted to end the fighting worldwide, she was just too forceful about it. So theoretically, she isn't a bad guy. So if she does come back, she might still keep the Infinite Tsukiyomi going or she might cancel it. But that is if she comes back. We still have no idea what Black Zetsu is doing to Madara besides fusing with him. For all we know, it could be Indra who comes back. Since Indra's will and chakra was reincarnated within Madara, and Madara used the Will Materialization on a Zetsu clone to make Black Zetus, it could also be possible that Black Zetsu is Indra and that Indra himself was reincarnated with Kaguya's will and therefore in extension, Black Zetus is both Indra and Kaguya. I know that this is a bit of a longshot theory. Hahaha. I just think it sounds a bit sensible if you really break it down.

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    • Kaguya is just a chaotic good.

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    • Latest chapter is up and yes he did.

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    • Kaguya is merciless and is indeed back, Madara is dead... again.

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    • Well i was wrong. But i thought the theory sounded pretty good.

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    • Ugh, I'm 100% positive that Kaguya is as evil as it gets, not sure why people say that she is good.

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    • Well Madara didn't die because he became the vessel for Kaguya's will. Maybe by absorbing the shinju, his body and chakra became more like Kaguya's and less like Hagoromo's chakra.

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    • Except he didn't get possessed by Kaguya, his whole body reconstructed...

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    • Bloodless-weasel wrote: kishi already said that madara is the final villain.

      When did he tell that?

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    • Well if Kaguya is God, that should be easy for her to change a body for a more fitting appearance but it doesn't mean that he died.

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    • I think that Kaguya coming back as the bad guy is probably because she is...how to say, desperate? What I think is that, Kaguya has seen to much war and blood that she became desperate for peace; like she is really scared of another war. At first she got a momentary peace through making people fear her but the people started rebelling and started another war. And Kaguya, whose sanity has already started slipping since eating the fruit, finally snapped and lost all hope in humanity. Eventually, she might have think that 'Since the humans wanted to be in that nightmare (war) so much, then I would give it to them' and so began her plan to throw every living being into an endless nightmare? But since she is dying, she might have also used the will thing Madara used on Zetsu and implanted it somewhere, and that will somehow got stuck on Madara and Madara transferred it to Zetsu. B.Zetsu would most likely be the one to, not sure, Use Madara as a human sacrifice for Kaguya to be revived and such. So, I don't think that Madara would be turning into Kaguya or having a Kaguya in Madara's body, because Madara acting like a girl totally give me nightmares. I really hope that Madara is only used as a sacrifice, or else his body must be altered, completely. That is only what I think though.

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    • Should we close this thread, sense it already has happened?

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    • Agree. Let's end this here.

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    • Yes, I don't think there's more to be said about this other than speculations.

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    • Bloodless-weasel wrote:

      Super Son Goku wrote: Well maybe would battle kaguya then he would win or something like that, but we must be open to other possibilities

      I guess you have a piont but how would kaguya apear? just like take madaras body or somthing?

      Well I think he'd alter Madara's body

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    • Elveonora wrote: We will find out in about 80 hours from now. How is someone from an uchiha clan gone kaguya? Without the ise of dna transfer o-o dont make sense...

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