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Ending of Chapter 675

  • It seems as if chapter 675 is hinting that team 7 will battle Madara. How do you guys feel it will play out. Will Sakura be able to provide any support, we do know that the most effective method of fighting Madara is taijutsu; but is her taijutsu strong enough? Moreover will Kakshi be able to provide any effort without his sharigan. tell me your thoughts!

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    • Kakashi probably won't fight.

      But Sakura won't be left behind. Her strength is greater than Naruto and Sasuke. She may not have much chakra left but she'll provide full support.

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    • Is it confirmed that Madara has gotten his old eye back? I mean the ending was cliff-hanger no doubt

      Whatever the case...if he has gotten his old eye back then he'll be almost invincible from what Obito says I doubt either sakura or kakashi would be of any help, they are formidable shinobi but they lack the Six-paths power or the 8 gates to inflict damage upon madara

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    • I still think that Sakura will somehow do something after all she is a member of team 7.

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    • Well unless its another ass-pull then No

      Sakura can't keep up with Sasuke and Naruto team 7 or not

      Did you forget? Madara cut tsunade in half and back then he wasn't even in God mode

      And tsunade was Sakura's teacher, Sakura still hasn't shown any signs that she is on the same level as Tsunade

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    • Like I said Sakura is a member of team 7 so there could be another ass-pull like she somehow gets the other juubi. Naruto and Sasuke are so strong so I wouldn't mind if Sakura got stronger too.

      As far as Tsunade goes Sakura became her equal when the seal on her forehead appeared and she said that she didn't have to use it to stay young so she is probably stronger than Tsunade.

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    • Right, i remember that seal I still doubt she is at Tsunade's level

      But you are right we could witness another ass-pull

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    • At this point the only way for Sakura to keep up with Naruto and Sasuke is a total ass pull. She didn't seem to be on their level before, even though that's what she claimed she then immediately had to be saved and didn't take a significant role in the next battles, only participating in the Juubi mooks beat down. Then Naruto and Sasuuke were revealed to be the reincarnations of the legendary sons of Rikudo Sennin and got an upgrade from the man himself. At this point even if she mastered Slug Sage Mode she wouldn't be in the same league. She is the strongest of Konoha 11 (if we exclude Naruto), but she can't keep up with the main duo (or Madara for that matter), simple as that. Nowadays not even Kakashi can.

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    • Kishi will probably give her slug sage mode and somehow make it useful for a couple of panels. Being that Naruto can regenerate lost body parts, her role as healer is eclipsed unless Madara is such a ba that naruto doesn't have the time to do any recovery techs and has to focus solely on fighting or lose/

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    • Naruto could borrow his chakra to Kakashi and Sakura (maybe to other ppl around too) the way he was doing before. It'll be cool if Obito survives somehow &/or Gai,Lee can use the 8 gates without worrying about dying.

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    • Personally I think Kakashi can help a lot. I think losing the Sharingan will make him realize how mush he's relied on Raikiri and Kamui, and he'll pull out a lot of useful jutsu. He mastered over a thousand from all the countries, and without the drain of the Sharingan he can provide a lot of support for Naruto and Sasuke.

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    • I don't think those thousand jutsu will be very useful against Madara.

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    • Me too. Madara has the Rinnegan. He'll probably just use the abilities of the Preta Path and absorb his ninjutsu techniques. However, Kakashi can probably be used for a diversion in a grand strategy to pin Madara down if not kill. You gotta give Kakashi some credit.. I mean he came this far! He ain't ordinary!

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    • Just what we need ,

      3 brats and a chakra-less Jounin are able to pin the Second-greatest Shinobi of all time Kudos Kishi!!

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    • You forgot Ten-Ten sealing him :D

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    • We interrupt this clearly productive message to remind everyone the following:

      "This is a shonen manga. Three "brats" and a useless teacher defeating a god-like villain is the norm within these manga. Look elsewhere if you're looking for a manga that breaks this mold."

      That is all.

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    • Sakura is a character who act to balance between Naruto and Sasuke as well as we can see how Jiraiya, Orochimaru and Tsunade. Every each of them compliment themselves. Without one person, a team will not be complete. Thats how those old generation Sannins got their tittle by Hanzo. They act as a team and comprehend each other. Do not underestimate every each of them either Naruto, Sasuke or Sakura.

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    • I don't underestimate Sakura.

      I go by her track record.

      Keeping Naruto alive long enough for Obito to transfer Yin Kurama is the most useful thing she's done, plot-wise, since Chiyo helped her defeat Sasori. Pain attacks the village? She cries for Naruto. Naruto goes through a dilemma with Sasuke? Makes it worse by lying about loving him (Naruto). Goes to kill Sasuke and end Konoha's woes? Fails twice.

      Naruto and Sasuke outpace her in almost every area and, like Goku and Vegeta, their rivalry and desire to crush the other actually enhances their teamwork. Sakura just kinda sits there and shouts at them while they do all the heavy lifting. Even after they each summoned their trademark summons, recreating a Sannin scene, Naruto and Sasuke went on the attack, while Sakura hung back and commented on the fight for five chapters.

      I don't see her doing anything too significant this time either.

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    • Might i remind you, those people you are referring to- the Sannin, even they don't stand a chance against Madara now. Sasuke and Naruto are using ass-pull powers to kick Madara's butt, now unless Kishi pulls out another power out of his ass and gives it to Sakura it is rather impossible for her to fight on equal footing with the Legendary Madara Uchiha With-out ass pull powers, there are only two people who can fight on equal footing with Madara, and those two are Might Guy and Hashirama Senju, although i still doubt Hashirama has got what it takes, but i won't underestimate him.

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote: We interrupt this clearly productive message to remind everyone the following:

      "This is a shonen manga. Three "brats" and a useless teacher defeating a god-like villain is the norm within these manga. Look elsewhere if you're looking for a manga that breaks this mold."

      That is all.

      I would like you to point out where a God-like villain gets defeated by Ass-pulls like in Naruto, no other shounen does that

      Earlier Naruto's villain were defeated in an awesome fashion- but ever since the izanami thing, Naruto has been pulling stuff randomly out of his ass to defeat people

      Most recently Jesus no Jutsu is the best example of that

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    • Yeah. Probably the creation of Sakura is not entirely for the combat matters. She somehow will balance what the Team has. As we all knew the medical ninja rules. those who mastered the Creation Rebirth and the Strength of 100 Technique are allowed to break all of those 3 rules. Sakura probably will provide supplementary support to Naruto and Sasuke.

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    • That would still make sense, kind of like how Minato,Gaara, Kakashi and Rock-lee supported Might Guy

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    • Yeah, they need Teamwork, power only would not be helpful if they does not have any teamwork. How we can see Minato with his disabilities, Gaara and Lee with less chakra and strength to fought with, but with the teamwork. They can somehow fought well with Madara Indeed Guy play the vital role here. So, I would expect Team 7 will show some epic combat moments and a good teamwork between all of the members!

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    • Although the way Obito said that stuff about Rinnegan, seems to me Madara's power level just went over 9000!!!

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    • Obito could barely control one rinnegan cuz it used too much chakra, i wonder how could Nagato handle 2 rinnegan and he wasnt an uchiha, although he was from uzumaki clan with great amount of chakra.

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    • The Winter King wrote:

      Ten Tailed Fox wrote: We interrupt this clearly productive message to remind everyone the following:

      "This is a shonen manga. Three "brats" and a useless teacher defeating a god-like villain is the norm within these manga. Look elsewhere if you're looking for a manga that breaks this mold."

      That is all.

      I would like you to point out where a God-like villain gets defeated by Ass-pulls like in Naruto, no other shounen does that.

      Are you new to shonen? You're new to shonen, aren't you? Clearly you're new to shonen.

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    • @Cyber, from where do people get that Uzumaki in general have lots of chakra? That's what I call an ass-pull, it was never stated anywhere and you can hardly attribute it to an observation, because one half-Uzumaki and one Uzumaki aren't a standard for them all.

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote:

      The Winter King wrote:

      Ten Tailed Fox wrote: We interrupt this clearly productive message to remind everyone the following:

      "This is a shonen manga. Three "brats" and a useless teacher defeating a god-like villain is the norm within these manga. Look elsewhere if you're looking for a manga that breaks this mold."

      That is all.

      I would like you to point out where a God-like villain gets defeated by Ass-pulls like in Naruto, no other shounen does that.

      Are you new to shonen? You're new to shonen, aren't you? Clearly you're new to shonen.

      My friend if i am new to shonen then would you please care to enlighten me in what shonen does stuff like this happen

      I am following Toriko, One piece, Bleach- they aren't pulling stuff out of their ass to defeat God-like enemies and posting in pages here

      As for any legendary shonen Manga, i have read DBZ and even that didn't have this much ass-pulls

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    • Although the shonen genre has a tendency to do stuff like that, everything has a limit. Being a shonen is not a free "do everything as you wish and everyone will be fine" card, there's a line somewhere that must not be crossed or people will stop taking you seriously. Personally, I think Naruto coming back with magic healing powers that can solve everything and NOT knowing how he is doing that was one of these moments. And yes, depening on the stunts Kishimoto is going to pull it may become worse.

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    • I can tolerate their new strength but fixing eyes is just annoying.

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    • Shadow Abyss wrote: Although the shonen genre has a tendency to do stuff like that, everything has a limit. Being a shonen is not a free "do everything as you wish and everyone will be fine" card, there's a line somewhere that must not be crossed or people will stop taking you seriously. Personally, I think Naruto coming back with magic healing powers that can solve everything and NOT knowing how he is doing that was one of these moments. And yes, depening on the stunts Kishimoto is going to pull it may become worse.

      I actually find Naruto to be getting better so that is solely your opinion. Though, I laugh hard at everyone on here who proclaims Dragonball as the shining example of shonen, and then bitches about the kinds of power-ups Naruto can get. And you talk about people not taking who seriously?

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote:

      Shadow Abyss wrote: Although the shonen genre has a tendency to do stuff like that, everything has a limit. Being a shonen is not a free "do everything as you wish and everyone will be fine" card, there's a line somewhere that must not be crossed or people will stop taking you seriously. Personally, I think Naruto coming back with magic healing powers that can solve everything and NOT knowing how he is doing that was one of these moments. And yes, depening on the stunts Kishimoto is going to pull it may become worse.

      I actually find Naruto to be getting better so that is solely your opinion. Though, I laugh hard at everyone on here who proclaims Dragonball as the shining example of shonen, and then bitches about the kinds of power-ups Naruto can get. And you talk about people not taking who seriously?

      Hmm, Dragonball power-ups are pretty much explained, they aren't ass-pulls like naruto.

      Naruto's earlier power-ups were explained but now its just plain ridiculous ass pull

      If you think DBZ powers are ass-pulls then i suggest you stop acting like a "smug know it all" and watch the anime again, cause you clearly seem like a Naruto fanboy who can't take criticism about it and you need to be a little more analytical, you can't simply point anything out in a random anime and call it an ass-pull

      Naruto, didn't have ass-pulls- it was great, but izanami and the current situation are ass-pulls

      The only ass-pull power-up in the entire canon DBZ would be the SSJG form in my opinion

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote:

      Shadow Abyss wrote: Although the shonen genre has a tendency to do stuff like that, everything has a limit. Being a shonen is not a free "do everything as you wish and everyone will be fine" card, there's a line somewhere that must not be crossed or people will stop taking you seriously. Personally, I think Naruto coming back with magic healing powers that can solve everything and NOT knowing how he is doing that was one of these moments. And yes, depening on the stunts Kishimoto is going to pull it may become worse.

      I actually find Naruto to be getting better so that is solely your opinion. Though, I laugh hard at everyone on here who proclaims Dragonball as the shining example of shonen, and then bitches about the kinds of power-ups Naruto can get. And you talk about people not taking who seriously?

      Well, Dragonball Z was indeed my first anime and I'm a fan of it, but I don't think it is the greatest thing Japan has ever produced either. To be fair, I even admit the quality started to decline after the Freeza arc, though Cell's is still good. And I only complain about power-ups when they are either poorly handled and the author doesn't put a lot of thought behind it, which is one of the reasons I don't like the post-Freeza arc's "every Saiyan can be Super" approach, I thought it cheapened the in-story myths about the legendary warrior.

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    • Okay. I think people are overreacting about "asspulls" and "DBZ vs Naruto" stuff. I'll just steer this conversation to the chapter.

      If Madara will have his both Rinnegans in the next chapter how could he use Kamui to get out of there if both his eye sockets have Rinnegan? Can Rinnegan do that? Or would he simply transport himself first and then replace it? Naruto and Sasuke would never give him a chance given Madara has to remove his Kamui Sharingan and THEN transplant the left Rinnegan.

      Or Madara would pull a genjutsu to Obito to transport him back. Genius. Problem solved...

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    • Silenthero27 wrote: Okay. I think people are overreacting about "asspulls" and "DBZ vs Naruto" stuff. I'll just steer this conversation to the chapter.

      If Madara will have his both Rinnegans in the next chapter how could he use Kamui to get out of there if both his eye sockets have Rinnegan? Can Rinnegan do that? Or would he simply transport himself first and then replace it? Naruto and Sasuke would never give him a chance given Madara has to remove his Kamui Sharingan and THEN transplant the left Rinnegan.

      Or Madara would pull a genjutsu to Obito to transport him back. Genius. Problem solved...

      He can always transfer first with the Rinnegan in his hand, then place it on his eyesocket later. Alternatively, once he transfers he can just expel the Rinnegan from Kamui's dimmension just like Obito used to shot his giant shurikens.

      If you really want to make him that more powerful, he can pull a Danzo and put Obito's set of eyes on the Hashirama's face in his chest for Izanagi fodder.

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    • Shadow Abyss wrote:

      Silenthero27 wrote: Okay. I think people are overreacting about "asspulls" and "DBZ vs Naruto" stuff. I'll just steer this conversation to the chapter.

      If Madara will have his both Rinnegans in the next chapter how could he use Kamui to get out of there if both his eye sockets have Rinnegan? Can Rinnegan do that? Or would he simply transport himself first and then replace it? Naruto and Sasuke would never give him a chance given Madara has to remove his Kamui Sharingan and THEN transplant the left Rinnegan.

      Or Madara would pull a genjutsu to Obito to transport him back. Genius. Problem solved...

      He can always transfer first with the Rinnegan in his hand, then place it on his eyesocket later. Alternatively, once he transfers he can just expel the Rinnegan from Kamui's dimmension just like Obito used to shot his giant shurikens.

      If you really want to make him that more powerful, he can pull a Danzo and put Obito's set of eyes on the Hashirama's face in his chest for Izanagi fodder.

      Well as I said earlier the second he returns he'll be pummeled before he has the chance to transplant his eye. Also, transplant... in your hand? Danzo is a crazy creature but I bet Kishi wouldn't stoop that low.

      Making an eye out of nowhere is crazy but having two sets of eyes is just too ridiculous. Also, it would be pretty freaky that Hashi's face has Sharingan eyes. No. Just nope nope nope.

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    • I was refering to just teleport holding the eye, not transplanting it to the hand or anything like that. Also, he could just use Susanoo to not be instantly attacked by Sasuke's blitz, that could buy him enough time.

      Also, considering the creepy stuff Kishimoto has already wrote before (growing bones out of your body, siamese twins that can transfer one their heads to your body, Kabuto's belly snake, everything Orochimaru does, Zetsu's splitting sequence, Shino being a living bug hive), eyes on your chest is not the creepiest thing in this manga. It is mostly a toned down version of Danzo's Sharingan arm when you really think about it, at least this time the eyes would be in an actual face.

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    • Don't underestimate Madara. He will be able to hold back Naruto and Sasuke long enough to take out the Sharingan from his eye and putting in the Rinnegan. After all he is really good at it like he took Kakashi's eye in an instant.

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    • Hagoromo 1234 wrote: Don't underestimate Madara. He will be able to hold back Naruto and Sasuke long enough to take out the Sharingan from his eye and putting in the Rinnegan. After all he is really good at it like he took Kakashi's eye in an instant.

      I don't underestimate Madara (or Kishi, for that matter) but Sasuke and Naruto now knows the danger of having both Rinnegans. They won't just dilly daddle when Madara returns. They'll go berserk at him before he even knows what's happening. Madara was able to take Kakashi's eye out of a surprise. Heck. He should have done that ages ago.

      Madara can use Susanoo but as we saw in the anime you can be plucked out of it or simply crush it by beast mode your way in. Raikage broke a rib of a Susanoo (ok, it's Sasuke's but it's not that different from Madara) and OP Sasuke and Naruto can certainly do better. It's just odd how he can transport himself back without any Sharingan implanted. Kishi has to pull another shenanigans again to explain himself here.

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    • We don't know if Madara can use Susanoo as the Shinju's jinchuuriki. Obito had "plot nerf" with his inability to use Kamui, so I expect some for Madara too, otherwise he would be impossible to beat as he was already God level before he became the Shinju's jinchuuriki.

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    • Elveonora wrote: We don't know if Madara can use Susanoo as the Shinju's jinchuuriki. Obito had "plot nerf" with his inability to use Kamui, so I expect some for Madara too, otherwise he would be impossible to beat as he was already God level before he became the Shinju's jinchuuriki.

      "plot nerf", lol. I'd call it "complete asspull" since Madara could use Kamui as the Ten-Tails jinchuriki.

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    • You guys do realize that Obito's about to lose control of himself to Black Zetsu, right? This means that Zetsu can make Obito use Kamui on Madara.

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    • Uchiha Tajima wrote: You guys do realize that Obito's about to lose control of himself to Black Zetsu, right? This means that Zetsu can make Obito use Kamui on Madara.

      I totally agree with Uchiha Tajima. Here's what I think will happen. Black Zetsu will overcome Obito. Madara take his Rinnegan back, transplant it into himself and command Zetsu to use Obito's Kamui on him and will return to the other dimension ( which has already happened I think ). Then Zetsu will use Kamui on Obito himself and return back with him and leave Obito's body shortly afterwards and fuse into Madara ( Since Black Zetsu is Madara's will to begin with and there is nothing he can do now )

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    • I believe that Madara's Rinnegan are the "bells" for Kakashi's new bell test ;)

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    • Only these bells grant you a but load of powerful techs.

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