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Kakashi's left eye

  • Since Madara stole his Sharingan and Naruto brought back his normal left eye, it looks like Kakashi's days as the "Copy Ninja" are over.

    What do you think?

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    • Yup. But let's be honest, since his >more or less great< fight with Zabuza right at the beginning of the series, we haven't really seen a lot of copycat action. It was always all about Chidori and later Kamui.

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    • Considering he supposedly copied over 1000 techniques, I think he'll be fine. The only thing he can't use at all anymore is Kamui.

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    • Ah, now is the question: can he still use those copied techniques? Or are they bound to his Sharingan? I guess so.

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    • It sucks that Kakashi's somehow helpless for now. But I'm still hoping the unexpected.

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    • Well, you're talking about the who can handle multiple enemies at once while saying he's almost out of chakra... I guess he might not retain all of the techniques, but have some atleast.. Like in the chuunin exams, in the preliminaries, Sasuke used a modified version of Lee's technique, but I don't think his Sharingan was activated at the time.

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    • Lord Otto wrote: Ah, now is the question: can he still use those copied techniques? Or are they bound to his Sharingan? I guess so.

      If he can remember how to use them he can use them, that's all there is to it. If he can use the natures, mould the chakra and perform the hand signs, he can use the jutsu. The Sharingan allowed him to analyze, predict and manipulate his opponents with genjutsu, but plays no part in actually performing the jutsu. Hell, Madara used Susanoo with no eyes, and that's a technique born of his Sharingan.

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    • The more prudent question is can he used the Raikiri and Chidori now without the Sharingan? As Minato pointed out years earlier, the speed to use the technique creates a tunneling effect on one's line of sight that makes seeing everything around the user difficult and leaves them open to retaliation as happened against the Iwa-shinobi he tested it on.

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    • I doubt he'll be able to use Raikiri / Chidori now, for the reasoning you mentioned: it creates a tunnel effect and only the Sharingan can overcome it. Unless he somehow gets the eye back, he won't be using the technique again.

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    • I presume he can still use his copied techniques. Losing the eye is probably irrelevant since he already copied them once and losing an eye doesn't mind wipe people. He will just not be able to copy new techniques, but the ones he already has in his database are probably still with him. He will also be able to Chidori and Raikiri, but not properly, since the technique itself doesn't require a Sharingan, it just fixes the drawback. The only technique he seems to have lost for good is Kamui, but since Madara could still use Susanoo without his eyes, who really knows?

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    • Susanoo is a little different. It's not really produced by the eyes themselves, rather, its unlocked by mastering the powers of each eye. All other known Mangekyō techniques have actually centered around the eye. Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi and Kamui (the ranged version at least) actually require the user to make eye contact with the target.

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    • Well, maybe he will still retain the ability to warp himself between dimmensions. He doesn't need to aim to warp himself.

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    • Shadow Abyss wrote: Well, maybe he will still retain the ability to warp himself between dimmensions. He doesn't need to aim to warp himself.

      whit not a Sharingan i doupt it.

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    • i hate the fact that kishi took away Kakashi's power in an instant, he could've atleast replaced his eyes with a normal sharingan But wishful thinking aside, shouldn't his Kekkei Genkai be removed from the infobox?

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    • The Winter King wrote: i hate the fact that kishi took away Kakashi's power in an instant, he could've atleast replaced his eyes with a normal sharingan But wishful thinking aside, shouldn't his Kekkei Genkai be removed from the infobox?

      No. The article chronicles his whole life, not just the present.

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    • Hasn't Kakashi used Lightning Cutter without Sharingan (as well as Sasuke with Chidori) multiple times in the series? Yes, the tunneling effect made Sharingan a necessity at first for technique, but after mastering it, I think it becomes a lot easier.

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    • (sigh) why did Masashi do this to him

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    • People act as if the Sharingan were Kakashi's only power. The guy still is one of the best Konoha Jounin there is even without some sort of magical eye.

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    • True mate, i agree with you But you gotta admit, seeing the Sharingan at the hands of a Non-Uchiha is amazing, and i dont meant Danzo

      The Sharingan suits him, it might not define him but it still looks great

      And for a memorable character like him to loose such a power at this point in the series seems rather disappointing

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    • You think he can Justus that he copy

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    • The Sharingan wasn't Kakashi's only power, but that's what made him top tier. Okay, still an elite trained famous ninja, but that's the same label we give to characters like Yamato or Asuma, he will still be a far cry from what he used to be.

      The most I can say to him is that maybe now his chakra poll will be large enough so we can see more of his supposed arsenal of a thousand jutsu. Still, I doubt some common copied jutsu will make up for this loss.

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    • I thought the sharingan give a large chakra?

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    • Mook13 wrote: I thought the sharingan give a large chakra?

      I'll assume you mean large chakra pool. No it doesn't, in fact it can cause a large amount of drain on the user, even more so on a non Uchiha.

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    • @Mook, no, in fact it drains chakra.

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    • Ok understood

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    • Kakashi was known as the "Sharingan Warrior" because of the left eye, but the "Copy Ninja" for his 1000+ techniques. He can still use his various techniques, he just won't be able to gain new techniques instantly anymore.

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    • If Naruto hadn't fixed his eye Madara might have given Kakashi his eye back as he won't consider him a threat although I doubt that he would.

      But still Kakashi is still an excellent shinobi although he will be much weaker.

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    • Lol, that would have been a troll, "Here you go Kakashi-brat, i only needed it for few seconds, now use it to escape out of this dimension cause i doubt you can harm me with it"

      But yeah, i realize Kishi is trying to show Naruto's Jesus no Jutsu, but he shouldn't have fixed the eye

      Maybe Kakashi will loose the right eye this time and get Obito's other sharingan XD

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    • Kakashi's favourite hobby is losing eyes.

      Atleast he has Naruto to give him new ones.

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    • Good thing Naruto didn't pull a sharingan out of his ass, cause that would've been like taking it to far

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    • Naruto's new job will be having an eye factory to make those with eye fetishes happy.

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    • Elveonora wrote: Naruto's new job will be having an eye factory to make those with eye fetishes happy.

      • snicker*
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    • you have to remember that kakashi became a jonin and graduated top of his class at an early age before he ever obtained a sharingan, to say he is now useless without it is absurd.

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    • Victor.tykoski wrote: you have to remember that kakashi became a jonin and graduated top of his class at an early age before he ever obtained a sharingan, to say he is now useless without it is absurd.

      He isn't useless, but i doubt despite his skill as a shinobi he can be of any use against Madara

      But i still can't digest the fact that kakashi's eye wasn't returned to him

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    • Even if Kakashi does have a 1000 jutsu under his belt, it'll still be useless because he doesn't have sage chakra and ninjutsu won't harm Madara. Plus he doesn't possess taijutsu skills to the same degree as Gai's, so hand to hand combat is out of the question also. The only way I see Kakashi being useful in this upcoming fight is if Naruto grants him a BS sage-mode power up.

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    • The Sharingan allowed Kakashi to copy a technique as it was being used. Once he performed the technique, Kakashi being Kakashi, it is probably memorized by the man, along with the thousand techniques he copied. The Sharingan shouldn't be needed to execute the techniques. The loss of the Eye just simply means he can't copy any more, or be able to see where the next action will take place before it actually takes place.

      However, Kakashi probably has enough experience to make an accurate guess what that is. He is, after all, a genius.

      As for his Raikiri, Kakashi created that before he had the eye. The eye gave him, at that point in time, the extra prowess needed to eliminate his blind spots. Now that he has had at least a decade of experience as a Jounin, ten of those years as ANBU, no less, in addition to teaching an Uchiha AND the Jinchuuriki Naruto, he should have the observation and speed needed to use Raikiri without the use of the Sharingan. I think Team 7 would have given all the other Jounins a run for their skills, but not dear Kakashi. =)

      As for Kakashi and the loss of the Eye, I think the author did it as a symbolic thing, and it makes things more real in the story. Kakashi came into possession of that eye due to extremely saddening circumstances. He made promises to his comrades and his friends on the Eye, and as far as I can see, has fulfilled them. It is time for our poor Kakashi to relinquish some of the burdens he has carried for far too long. I'm glad Naruto was able to give him his original eye back. Kakashi no longer has to keep living up to the reputation that he has.

      Regardless of what he can or can't do on the battlefield, we know he is a genius, master tactician, and raised three of the best fighters on the field. He sees a lot more than most, Sharingan or no, and it would be a wiser move keeping him where he can keep observing and sharing his observations with his comrades to keep them alive rather than being in the middle of it all the time... especially telling Naruto to keep his head or to stop doing something as that boy has a rather dense hearing problem. Wonder where he got that from...??

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    • There is still a good chance that with narutos jutsu, kakashi can still use the sharingan just hasn't activated it yet.

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    • Obito is dead now, but has both eyes in him. Does anyone think that obito would give both his mangekyos back to kakashi as a final parting gift. If he did it seems like everything would be right. Sasuke and Naruto the two strongest ninja in world. Sakura able to use a hashirama jutsu. And kakashi would have both eyes.

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    • I thought that he would do that. but im not sure cause hes dead right.

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    • The only thing keeping him alive is black zetsu

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    • Kakashi won't get both eyes. If that were to happen he would either cover them both and walk blindly or he'll die from continuously using the Sharingan.

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    • If kakashi did get both mangekyos would he able to use the first stage of susanoo? Just the ribs not full.

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    • Maybe. But Kakashi does not have much chakra.

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    • He wouldn't die? He would eventually get used to used to having both eyes. It would drain his chakra and he'd go blind eventually but it wouldn't kill him I don't think

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    • He might even die before turning blind.

      But first of all he won't get both Sharingans. I am pretty sure.

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    • It's possible though obito is known as being a gift giver. Obito could easily go I forgive you for killing rin. You saved me. Here have my eyes cause I'm basically dead....merry Christmas kakashi

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    • Even if that were to happen. Kakashi would only take one eye.

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    • I don't think so obito would insist

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    • Munchvtec wrote: There is still a good chance that with narutos jutsu, kakashi can still use the sharingan just hasn't activated it yet.

      Does he have to go through *another* horrible, life-destroying event to do so? Wait, I forgot, this is Naruto. Nevermind.

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    • I think that Naruto returned the same eye to him, it was said to give back what he had. It cant be the eye from when he was a kid cause it would be too small and would not even fit in his head. I think the Mangekyo eye was returned to him or reformed by Naruto.

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    • I have a feeling Kakashi will get the eye back one way or another. It was a gift after all from a dear friend.

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    • Maybe Masashi is going to show us that he doesn't need the Sharingan to be great, but I don't think so.

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    • @Much, you make much less sense than usually and that's quite something.

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    • What are you talking about, im here to contribute to the discussion. That has nothing to do with it so if you have something to ask or tell me. use my Talk Page. Thank You.

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    • "There is still a good chance that with narutos jutsu, kakashi can still use the sharingan just hasn't activated it yet"

      Naruto restored Kakashi's own eye, the Sharingan wasn't a part of Kakashi, there is no way for Naruto to recreate it.

      "I think that Naruto returned the same eye to him, it was said to give back what he had. It cant be the eye from when he was a kid cause it would be too small and would not even fit in his head. I think the Mangekyo eye was returned to him or reformed by Naruto"

      The eye's size is fully grown by puberty and doesn't get larger beyond that point I believe.

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    • Elveonora wrote: "I think that Naruto returned the same eye to him, it was said to give back what he had. It cant be the eye from when he was a kid cause it would be too small and would not even fit in his head. I think the Mangekyo eye was returned to him or reformed by Naruto"

      The eye's size is fully grown by puberty and doesn't get larger beyond that point I believe.

      In any case, he didn't summon Kakashi's childhood eye back. From what I can see, Naruto used Kakashi's genetic material to grow a new eye.

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    • My point was that Naruto restored Kakashi's own eye, didn't make a copy of Obito's Sharingan like Munchi believed/s.

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    • Well I already asked you not to call me munching but never mind that, and I do believe the eye grows at the same rate as the head. The head I believe gets larger after puberty, I mean you don't stay with a small head forever.

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