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Should Obito's Mangekyo Sharingan now be listed under Madara's Kekkai Genkai?

  • As of 674, Madara has stolen Kakashi (Obito)'s Sharingan, which is also a Mangekyo Sharingan.

    He may already be listed under a EMS user, but his eye and Obito's are not the same and should be treated as such.

    What do you guys think? Should we include Obito's Mangekyo Sharingan in Madara's Kekkai Genkai list?

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    • In the Infobox you mean? I don't even know if it's possible. But there's already Kamui mentioned in the jutsu list, so I guess that is enough.

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    • Yeah, in the Infobox.

      Sorry, I didn't really know how to describe it any better.

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    • The respective design and techniques of each eye may be different, but it is still the same kekkei genkai. It's already stated in Madara's abilities section that he has a different Sharingan.

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    • And what about Kakashi KKG status? He lost eye.

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    • Madara's Sharingan/Mangekyo/Rinnegan wasn't removed from his infobox while he was rendered blind. Kakashi should have the same status as it showed what abilities were at his disposal in life.

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    • Kakashi will either gain back the same eye, Obito's other eye, or even the left Rinnegan of Madara. He hasn't lost it permanently people come on.

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    • At this point he lost sharingan, when he get`s new i don`t think it is hard to add, but Wikia can`t work on presumptions.

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    • As fsr as the infobx is concerned me still has the eye.

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    • Yeah I think.

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    • NO, he have ems and rinnegan , he used obito's sharingan for Kamui, only Kamui , and in new chapter he implanted rinnegan

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    • storm release is a kkekein genkai , !! this power is not a beast power ,he's he truth kekkei genkai

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    • I that it should be mentioned that Madara was able to use Kamui just after implanting it, therefor he is a user. But Madara's plan would only require him to use it twice, once to get to the other dimension, steal back his Rinnegan eye, use Kamui again to go back to the real world, and then swap out eyes again. If that happens it should be dealt the same this wiki did with Kakashi using Kubikiribōchō for a very short time period.

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    • ItachiWasAHero wrote: Kakashi will either gain back the same eye, Obito's other eye, or even the left Rinnegan of Madara. He hasn't lost it permanently people come on.

      I agree with most of this but don't think Kakashi has the chakra to have the Rinnegan, the MS does a number on him. I do think we'll absolutely see both of Obito's original sharingan in the same person, most likely Kakashi if not both of them, though.

      Minor plot hole here, the Rinnegan allows the user access to all jutsu so why does Madara need to take Kakashi's eye to enter the kamui dimension?

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    • Because it doesn't give the ability to use KKG, he has storm release because of being the Juubi Jinchuriki.

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    • Sammo420 wrote: Minor plot hole here, the Rinnegan allows the user access to all jutsu so why does Madara need to take Kakashi's eye to enter the kamui dimension?

      Nah. It's never stated that Rinnegan allows all jutsu access. Kamui's dimension is unique to Obito's ability. I doubt that Madara would steal Kakashi's eye if he can teleport himself.

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    • Im wondering how Madara can even teleport when he has the wrong eye for it

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    • Poopysauce wrote: Im wondering how Madara can even teleport when he has the wrong eye for it

      It believe that Kakashi hasn't mastered his MS.

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    • IndxcvNovelist wrote:

      Poopysauce wrote: Im wondering how Madara can even teleport when he has the wrong eye for it

      It believe that Kakashi hasn't mastered his MS.

      Kakashi could teleport himself.

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    • Madara shows us that he can use Susanoo even without his eyes, its possible that now he knows how to use Kamui he won't need the eye anymore just gonna swap the eyes and return to the battlefield

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    • I was thinking he'd steal the rinnegan, then use Izanagi to undo his wound and blind the eye before replacing it.

      As for the infoboxes, they should list all the powers and techniques a character has used, not whatever is available to them at any given time.

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    • MERCURIOUS wrote: Madara shows us that he can use Susanoo even without his eyes, its possible that now he knows how to use Kamui he won't need the eye anymore just gonna swap the eyes and return to the battlefield

      The only difference is that Susanoo is Madara's actual power, while Kamui is Obito's power.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: I was thinking he'd steal the rinnegan, then use Izanagi to undo his wound and blind the eye before replacing it.

      As for the infoboxes, they should list all the powers and techniques a character has used, not whatever is available to them at any given time.

      I agree, for example just because kakashi lost the sharigan, we can't take him out of the category of sharigan users thus madara should be listed as a kamui user as well no matter the end result. As for listing it as a KKG, I think him being listed as kamui user is sufficient.

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    • Can you imagine if Obito tore out Sakuras eye out and gave her the rinnegan? That would be hilarious

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    • Poopysauce wrote: Can you imagine if Obito tore out Sakuras eye out and gave her the rinnegan? That would be hilarious

      It'd be better if it was the Sharingan.

      • Madara teleports everyone back to the real world*
      • Madara gouges Sakura's left eye*

      Sakura: AAH!

      • Madara transplants the Sharingan in her left eye socket*

      Madara: There you go!

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    • Poopysauce wrote: Can you imagine if Obito tore out Sakuras eye out and gave her the rinnegan? That would be hilarious

      Sakura could be better than Kakashi with using the sharingan/Rinnegan since she has tons of chakra stored up. Does she still have all that chakra or did she use it all during chapter 632? If it's all gone she can't use the sharingan/Rinnegan because it uses too much chakra.

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    • Cjtrules15 wrote:

      Poopysauce wrote: Can you imagine if Obito tore out Sakuras eye out and gave her the rinnegan? That would be hilarious

      Sakura could be better than Kakashi with using the sharingan/Rinnegan since she has tons of chakra stored up. Does she still have all that chakra or did she use it all during chapter 632? If it's all gone she can't use the sharingan/Rinnegan because it uses too much chakra.

      She still has loads of chakra, otherwise her seal would have vanished.

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    • Kakashi is the only foreign Sharingan User who has awakened it from 2 tomoe to 3 tomoe then mangekyo, so it was attuned better to his body despite the extra chakra usage. I don't think any other non Uchiha could be better with it, or use it better than him.

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    • Sir Suiton wrote:

      Poopysauce wrote: Can you imagine if Obito tore out Sakuras eye out and gave her the rinnegan? That would be hilarious

      It'd be better if it was the Sharingan.

      • Madara teleports everyone back to the real world*
      • Madara gouges Sakura's left eye*

      Sakura: AAH!

      • Madara transplants the Sharingan in her left eye socket*

      Madara: There you go!

      You missed a line.

      Madara: Now you can be closer to sasuke like you wanted.

      ((Assuming sakura still has feelings for sasuke))

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    • Madnesscrazy wrote:

      Sir Suiton wrote:

      Poopysauce wrote: Can you imagine if Obito tore out Sakuras eye out and gave her the rinnegan? That would be hilarious

      It'd be better if it was the Sharingan.

      • Madara teleports everyone back to the real world*
      • Madara gouges Sakura's left eye*

      Sakura: AAH!

      • Madara transplants the Sharingan in her left eye socket*

      Madara: There you go!

      You missed a line.

      Madara: Now you can be closer to sasuke like you wanted.

      ((Assuming sakura still has feelings for sasuke))

      She could genjutsu naruto into being her slave ha ha and then she and sasuke could reproduce the Uchihas xD

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    • Good luck getting Naruto in genjutsu now. He has the cooperation of Kurama now to save him.

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      17:38, May 1, 2014
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      I just wonder how they're gonna stop Madara.

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    • Cjtrules15 wrote: Good luck getting Naruto in genjutsu now. He has the cooperation of Kurama now to save him.

      screw the rules, naruto would do anyting for sakura anyways

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    • Sir Suiton wrote: As of 674, Madara has stolen Kakashi (Obito)'s Sharingan, which is also a Mangekyo Sharingan.

      He may already be listed under a EMS user, but his eye and Obito's are not the same and should be treated as such.

      What do you guys think? Should we include Obito's Mangekyo Sharingan in Madara's Kekkai Genkai list?

      No because he no longer has them

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