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Will Sasuke's Ambiguous Actions Ever Be Acknowledged?

  • Ever since Sasuke arrived to the battlefield, everyone perceives him as "turning back to the good side." While I definitely think Sasuke has changed for the better, ever since he arrived, there have been many hints that suggest that Sasuke's "dark side" is still very much present in his character. Some examples include-

    • Chapter 634: After Naruto and Sasuke attack the Ten-Tails, Sasuke commands the Amaterasu flames to "burn it (Ten-Tails) down." In this panel, he looks incredibly evil. Also, several characters question his true motives.
    • Chapter 635: Sasuke continues to try to disintegrate the Ten-Tails, and he (very evilly mind you) says that he wants to rid the world of Tailed Beasts and create a new world order. Once again, his motives are questioned by several characters.
    • Chapter 639: Perhaps the most ambiguous of all- Sasuke saves Naruto from Obito's attack and he maliciously states that he wants to "delete the past." In this panel, we also see the classic Team 7 photo, with a slash in Naruto.
    • Chapter 645: Sasuke's jealous nature of Naruto's power is shown again.
    • Chapter 671: Sasuke's true answer to Hagoromo's question is never shown. I doubt he said the same thing as Naruto. Sasuke didn't say "I want to protect my comrades, etc."

    I think these examples just prove that Sasuke is not the goody-two shoes that everyone thinks he is. While I still think he wants to protect Konoha, I think he wants to do it in his own, evil way, which will clearly conflict with Naruto. I think he will try to rid the world of Tailed Beasts after the War, which will also mean getting rid of Naruto as well. If Naruto and Sasuke do not fight because Sasuke wants to get rid of all Tailed Beasts, then they will fight because Naruto will not agree with the way that Sasuke wants to rule Konoha as the Hokage.

    What do you think of the ideas posed here? Do you think Kishi will ever address these moments (specifically the one in 639) in the manga again? Do you want him to address these moments? Let me know!

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    • Sasuke indeed has shown no true signs of being one of the good guys again. He certainly disagrees with Madara's actions and has shown a willingness to work alongside Naruto, but all that shows so far is that he is Madara's enemy, not Naruto's friend.

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    • Oh man I can't help but agree with you. This reminds me of the conversation Omega and I had. If there is one thing we agreed on, is Sasuke doesn't want to share responsibility and he probably doesn't trust others abilities. And he would want to rule The Leaf with a forceful hand. But I would assume if we are given a final fight between Naruto and Sasuke, Naruto would drop some heavy words to Sasuke. I mean the dude is 17. He can't be stubborn forever. Obito is in his 30s, the dude lived majority of his life with hate and within one night, he was able to make a tremendous change. So I'm hoping Sasuke will to. But him protecting the leaf from afar does always come into play. But I would assume after the war, no one would start anymore wars seeing as everyone is united. So my guess is as good as yours

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    • Eric Burrell wrote: Oh man I can't help but agree with you. This reminds me of the conversation Omega and I had. If there is one thing we agreed on, is Sasuke doesn't want to share responsibility and he probably doesn't trust others abilities. And he would want to rule The Leaf with a forceful hand. But I would assume if we are given a final fight between Naruto and Sasuke, Naruto would drop some heavy words to Sasuke. I mean the dude is 17. He can't be stubborn forever. Obito is in his 30s, the dude lived majority of his life with hate and within one night, he was able to make a tremendous change. So I'm hoping Sasuke will to. But him protecting the leaf from afar does always come into play. But I would assume after the war, no one would start anymore wars seeing as everyone is united. So my guess is as good as yours

      You do bring up a very good point. I only see Naruto vs. Sasuke ending with Naruto TnJ Sasuke. For once, I actually wouldn't mind if an enemy would be TnJ. I feel like Sasuke is the only one it could actually work against. However, I would not be okay if their final fight was 7 chapters worth of TnJ, and only 3 chapters worth of the actual battle. It needs to be the complete opposite. And that is how the final battle between Naruto and Sasuke would become the best battle of the series.

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    • How do you guys interpret Sasuke's actions in 639? Like I said, I think that is the most ambiguous of all.

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    • I actually think there won't be any more talk-no-Justus. As they once said, once two high class shinobis battle, they can read each other's thoughts with their blows and no words. You know to this day I still don't really understand what Sasuke meant when he said what he said in chapter 639 and he had the flashback of team 7 and had a slash through Naruto's picture but not Kakashi's or Sakura's. I tried to think of other 'motives' Sasuke can have. But I'm not sure what they could be. Well something else bothers me about that upcoming battle. The first time Kakashi stopped them, and the reason they had the 2nd one was because no one was around to stop them. The entire alliance and Sakura is there to witness everything, I don't think everything will run smoothly

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    • think about it, do you think hagaromo would have given HALF his power to sasuke if his true intentions were evil. maybe adter all is said and done they will actually talk about what sasuke did and whether he should be on there side

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    • I doubt Sasuke is "evil" to begin with and Indra wasn't either. Indra's idea of peace just inherently conflicted with Asura as it stands with Naruto and Sasuke being their reincarnations they will invariably conflict there too. I believe the only reason Hagoromo gave Sasuke the other part of his power because he believes he can prevent or even end the Asura/Indra conflict. Since Hagoromo has been shown to not be infallible since he holds himself responsible for Indra being a jealous twat. In fact I'm sure had he shared his power back then as well the conflict would have happened regardless if only because Indra wants to assert his way of "peace through power" as the right one.

      Beyond that Naruto will by virtue of character insist that Sasuke be forgiven and everything he did in the past be overlooked. He will almost certainly even go so far as to ignore everyone elses opinion on the matter.

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    • It will be interesting to see what happens after the war. So far we haven't gotten too much incite into what Sasuke is thinking. I think, like was mentioned before that Sasuke would rule with a iron fist in the same way Madara is trying to. He will want to mold the world in his own way or at least the leaf village. The big thing is would Naruto go against Sasuke vision if it puts the village in danger.

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    • Here is one constant thing about Sasuke, even before he became a missing-nin; Sasuke it driven to follow through with whatever path he believes is the right one, regardless of what others think. Saying he will protect Itachi's legacy can be interpreted in various ways. I personally want Sasuke to be a full-on good guy again, but Sasuke's true goals are still unclear. We will have to see how things will play out.

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    • Well if Sakura doesn't trust him, that means Naruto is the only good guy that truly trust him. Everyone else that trust Sasuke is on Taka side, which is Orochimaru side. With Naruto and Sasuke's upgraded powers, this will make an awesome fight. But I do have to wonder if Obito's question to Sakura will mean anything. You know team 7 and all.

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    • NarutoRevival wrote: Well if Sakura doesn't trust him, that means Naruto is the only good guy that truly trust him. Everyone else that trust Sasuke is on Taka side, which is Orochimaru side. With Naruto and Sasuke's upgraded powers, this will make an awesome fight. But I do have to wonder if Obito's question to Sakura will mean anything. You know team 7 and all.

      How do you know that Sakura doesn't trust him? I mean her words were sincere that she trusted him and is happy that he's back

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    • Eric Burrell wrote:

      NarutoRevival wrote: Well if Sakura doesn't trust him, that means Naruto is the only good guy that truly trust him. Everyone else that trust Sasuke is on Taka side, which is Orochimaru side. With Naruto and Sasuke's upgraded powers, this will make an awesome fight. But I do have to wonder if Obito's question to Sakura will mean anything. You know team 7 and all.

      How do you know that Sakura doesn't trust him? I mean her words were sincere that she trusted him and is happy that he's back

      Begrudginly I have to say that Sakura isn't as naive as Naruto even if she has a similar degree of stubbornness. She tried to kill Sasuke at one point and tried to talk Naruto out of keeping his promise. Arguably this may just have been the case because every other member of the Konoha 12(minus Naruto and Sasuke of course) more or less forced her to, because they actually gave a damn about Naruto's well being but killing someone, especially with poison, is no spur of the moment thing she had to have planned doing it. And she is often times not sincere at all. Considering Inner Sakura often times thought the opposite of Outer Sakura and Naruto even once pointed out how she wasn't sincere in her love confession. Of course Sakura may have bought all that Team 7 reunion nonsense but if she did that is borderline Naruto's compulsory trust level.

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    • Scarthcaroth wrote:

      Eric Burrell wrote:

      NarutoRevival wrote: Well if Sakura doesn't trust him, that means Naruto is the only good guy that truly trust him. Everyone else that trust Sasuke is on Taka side, which is Orochimaru side. With Naruto and Sasuke's upgraded powers, this will make an awesome fight. But I do have to wonder if Obito's question to Sakura will mean anything. You know team 7 and all.

      How do you know that Sakura doesn't trust him? I mean her words were sincere that she trusted him and is happy that he's back

      Begrudginly I have to say that Sakura isn't as naive as Naruto even if she has a similar degree of stubbornness. She tried to kill Sasuke at one point and tried to talk Naruto out of keeping his promise. Arguably this may just have been the case because every other member of the Konoha 12(minus Naruto and Sasuke of course) more or less forced her to, because they actually gave a damn about Naruto's well being but killing someone, especially with poison, is no spur of the moment thing she had to have planned doing it. And she is often times not sincere at all. Considering Inner Sakura often times thought the opposite of Outer Sakura and Naruto even once pointed out how she wasn't sincere in her love confession. Of course Sakura may have bought all that Team 7 reunion nonsense but if she did that is borderline Naruto's compulsory trust level.

      My friend, I'm having a hard time following you, what are you trying to prove? Because remember she wanted to kill him to prevent him from sinking any lower and she wanted to stop this before it could cause naruto any more suffering,she did this because she cared for both Sasuke and Naruto

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    • Eric Burrell wrote:

      Scarthcaroth wrote:

      Eric Burrell wrote:

      NarutoRevival wrote: Well if Sakura doesn't trust him, that means Naruto is the only good guy that truly trust him. Everyone else that trust Sasuke is on Taka side, which is Orochimaru side. With Naruto and Sasuke's upgraded powers, this will make an awesome fight. But I do have to wonder if Obito's question to Sakura will mean anything. You know team 7 and all.

      How do you know that Sakura doesn't trust him? I mean her words were sincere that she trusted him and is happy that he's back

      Begrudginly I have to say that Sakura isn't as naive as Naruto even if she has a similar degree of stubbornness. She tried to kill Sasuke at one point and tried to talk Naruto out of keeping his promise. Arguably this may just have been the case because every other member of the Konoha 12(minus Naruto and Sasuke of course) more or less forced her to, because they actually gave a damn about Naruto's well being but killing someone, especially with poison, is no spur of the moment thing she had to have planned doing it. And she is often times not sincere at all. Considering Inner Sakura often times thought the opposite of Outer Sakura and Naruto even once pointed out how she wasn't sincere in her love confession. Of course Sakura may have bought all that Team 7 reunion nonsense but if she did that is borderline Naruto's compulsory trust level.

      My friend, I'm having a hard time following you, what are you trying to prove? Because remember she wanted to kill him to prevent him from sinking any lower and she wanted to stop this before it could cause naruto any more suffering,she did this because she cared for both Sasuke and Naruto

      I'm trying to say that logically speaking Sakura shouldn't trust Sasuke so easily because it would undermine some of her otherwise "highly praised" traits like her intelligence. But I at the same time I am saying that she could very well trust Sasuke just as easily as Naruto does.

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    • Logically then probably. But her emotions will get the best of her and she didn't seem to really look at him with distaste. Plus Naruto trusting him is enough for Sakura and I'm pretty sure Sasuke is proving himself to her

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    • remember chapter 635 based on Sai's words she doesn't really trust him anymore. Remember the "smile is fake" part. This is besides the point, lets stop before it comes a Sakura basing post. I'm looking at you Scarthcaroth. And Eric Burrell, I doubt it, I mean she did try to kill Sasuke knowing Naruto would never allow it. She has her own beliefs about Sasuke that isn't influenced on Naruto's beliefs on him. I personally think she does want to trust him, but is smart enough to know that isn't possible not anymore. There is Orochimaru's little monologue in chapter 635, he seems a little too giddy at Sasuke's possible path. Hell, we still have no idea what Orochimaru's real reason for trying to destroy Konoha is. But as we have learn for Kishi, he is either good at connecting things in his manga or he hasn't forgotten yet.

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    • I think everything will come full circle with Sasuke and Naruto. For the most part we have seen the same story of how friends couldn't stop other friends and fences can't be mended. Sasuke and Orochimaru along with Taka has many possibilities and it will be interesting to see where it goes.

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