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Senjutsu and the Rinnegan

  • After 673, we learned the Sage's powers were divided between Senjutsu and the Rinnegan. Which in my mind is some genius planning. Think about it we learned of the Sage when Jiraiya revealed Sage Mode, and Pain revealed the Rinnegan. Personally Sage Mode was always felt a little out of out of sync with the rest of the series. It used different energies never heard of, and Naruto already had the Fox's powers, he didn't need another super mode. As Naruto continued to learn of his jinchūriki powers, I thought Sage Mode would be forgotten like Goku's Kaio Ken. But Sage Mode continued to be useful and prominent throughout the series. After 673 everything clicked, and shred some light on previous arcs.

    The biggest was the Pain Arc, that arc despite having some very awesome fights; was also a philosophical battle between Nagato and Naruto. Analyzing the arc, we can see the arc was a struggle over who should be the Sage's successor. With Naruto and Nagato playing as Ashura and Indra respectively by their philosophies and their powers. Naruto having the body of the Sage, Sage Mode and the belief that people can truly understand one another like Ashura believing love was the answer for peace. Pain with the Rinnegan and his belief that a superweapon of the Tailed Beasts will be the answer is similar to Indra's belief that power was the answer.

    The parallel continues in the War arc before Naruto and Sasuke join the final battle, they each have an incredible battle that nearly ended in their lost. But the interesting idea is the opponent that they nearly lost to had part of the sage's power as well. Naruto nearly lost to a fully healed Nagato, who as stated before had the Rinnegan. While Sasuke nearly lost to Kabuto, who had Sage Mode like Naruto, having the body of the Sage. It continued when Hashirama had Sage Mode, which was fitting as he was Ashura's incarnation as well and so he had the body of the Sage like Ashura . If I'm wrong tell me how and if I missed anything.

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    • Yeah and Obito is an Uchiha version of Naruto. The whole manga is full of parallels.

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    • what is the color of sasuke's rinnegan the original or red?

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    • who knows, wait for the manga to color it for us. I mean remember they showed the rinnegan as different colors of black, white and gray at the end of Part I in the anime. Then Kishi gave us a grayish purple.

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    • On Volume 64 cover, the eye is red like the Sharingan. So it is safe to assume it is a red Rinnegan with Tomoe.

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      red*

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    • Sharingan, Mangekyo Sharingan and Rinnegan had markings on the eye, compared to Sage Mode eye with markings outside the eye. You can even say that Dojutsu was descended from the Shinju's Beast Form and Senjutsu was descended from the Shinju's Tree Form.

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    • Georgio722 wrote: Sharingan, Mangekyo Sharingan and Rinnegan had markings on the eye, compared to Sage Mode eye with markings outside the eye. You can even say that Dojutsu was descended from the Shinju's Beast Form and Senjutsu was descended from the Shinju's Tree Form.

      the 10 tails is not the shinju's beast form its kaguya's beast form. they said that the juubi was created by kaguya

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    • Adrian Jasper wrote: what is the color of sasuke's rinnegan the original or red?

      I think red, like juubi's eye

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    • Actionmanrandell wrote:

      Georgio722 wrote: Sharingan, Mangekyo Sharingan and Rinnegan had markings on the eye, compared to Sage Mode eye with markings outside the eye. You can even say that Dojutsu was descended from the Shinju's Beast Form and Senjutsu was descended from the Shinju's Tree Form.

      the 10 tails is not the shinju's beast form its kaguya's beast form. they said that the juubi was created by kaguya

      I thought they said kaguya WAS THE PART OF juubi

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    • The Arabian Ninja wrote:

      Actionmanrandell wrote:

      Georgio722 wrote: Sharingan, Mangekyo Sharingan and Rinnegan had markings on the eye, compared to Sage Mode eye with markings outside the eye. You can even say that Dojutsu was descended from the Shinju's Beast Form and Senjutsu was descended from the Shinju's Tree Form.

      the 10 tails is not the shinju's beast form its kaguya's beast form. they said that the juubi was created by kaguya

      I thought they said kaguya WAS THE PART OF juubi

      black zetsu said the juubi is not just the shinju the juubi was my mother. he went on to say that she manifested her will into the juubi

      He also said that she is the source off chakra(she created it) the part of the juubi that is solely from the shinju is the natural energy in it. (the shinju is not a sentient being its just a tree with a strong life force)

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    • Actionmanrandell wrote:

      The Arabian Ninja wrote:

      Actionmanrandell wrote:

      Georgio722 wrote: Sharingan, Mangekyo Sharingan and Rinnegan had markings on the eye, compared to Sage Mode eye with markings outside the eye. You can even say that Dojutsu was descended from the Shinju's Beast Form and Senjutsu was descended from the Shinju's Tree Form.

      the 10 tails is not the shinju's beast form its kaguya's beast form. they said that the juubi was created by kaguya

      I thought they said kaguya WAS THE PART OF juubi

      black zetsu said the juubi is not just the shinju the juubi was my mother. he went on to say that she manifested her will into the juubi

      He also said that she is the source off chakra(she created it) the part of the juubi that is solely from the shinju is the natural energy in it. (the shinju is not a sentient being its just a tree with a strong life force)

      Oh OK

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    • Arabian Ninja wrote:

      Actionmanrandell wrote:

      The Arabian Ninja wrote:

      Actionmanrandell wrote:

      Georgio722 wrote: Sharingan, Mangekyo Sharingan and Rinnegan had markings on the eye, compared to Sage Mode eye with markings outside the eye. You can even say that Dojutsu was descended from the Shinju's Beast Form and Senjutsu was descended from the Shinju's Tree Form.

      the 10 tails is not the shinju's beast form its kaguya's beast form. they said that the juubi was created by kaguya

      I thought they said kaguya WAS THE PART OF juubi

      black zetsu said the juubi is not just the shinju the juubi was my mother. he went on to say that she manifested her will into the juubi

      He also said that she is the source off chakra(she created it) the part of the juubi that is solely from the shinju is the natural energy in it. (the shinju is not a sentient being its just a tree with a strong life force)

      Oh OK

      Let's just say that Dojutsu was descended from Kaguya and Senjutsu was descended from Shinju. Natural Energy is found everywhere on Earth, so we can assume that this energy is the chakra of plants, since the way to absorb the energy is to be not moving, like plants. The first plant to appear on Earth is the Shinju, so this makes Shinju the start of Senjutsu. Everyone on Earth had Physical and Spiritual Energy before Kaguya ate the Fruit. They had the energy, but they didn't know how to use it to develop chakra. Kaguya ate the fruit, so she obtained Natural Energy, which also ended in her learning how to develop chakra with her Physical and Spiritual Energy, as Natural Energy is chakra. With the chakra of plants reacting to her developed chakra of animals(human), special eyes were then manifested on her, which became the start of Dojutsu. After that, Hagoromo then taught everyone about chakra. This explains how everyone got their chakra, as Hagoromo did not have enough chakra to pass onto everyone. It also explains how everyone else didn't manifest special eyes.

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    • Georgio722 wrote:

      Arabian Ninja wrote:

      Actionmanrandell wrote:

      The Arabian Ninja wrote:

      Actionmanrandell wrote:

      Georgio722 wrote: Sharingan, Mangekyo Sharingan and Rinnegan had markings on the eye, compared to Sage Mode eye with markings outside the eye. You can even say that Dojutsu was descended from the Shinju's Beast Form and Senjutsu was descended from the Shinju's Tree Form.

      the 10 tails is not the shinju's beast form its kaguya's beast form. they said that the juubi was created by kaguya

      I thought they said kaguya WAS THE PART OF juubi

      black zetsu said the juubi is not just the shinju the juubi was my mother. he went on to say that she manifested her will into the juubi

      He also said that she is the source off chakra(she created it) the part of the juubi that is solely from the shinju is the natural energy in it. (the shinju is not a sentient being its just a tree with a strong life force)

      Oh OK

      Let's just say that Dojutsu was descended from Kaguya and Senjutsu was descended from Shinju. Natural Energy is found everywhere on Earth, so we can assume that this energy is the chakra of plants, since the way to absorb the energy is to be not moving, like plants. The first plant to appear on Earth is the Shinju, so this makes Shinju the start of Senjutsu. Everyone on Earth had Physical and Spiritual Energy before Kaguya ate the Fruit. They had the energy, but they didn't know how to use it to develop chakra. Kaguya ate the fruit, so she obtained Natural Energy, which also ended in her learning how to develop chakra with her Physical and Spiritual Energy, as Natural Energy is chakra. With the chakra of plants reacting to her developed chakra of animals(human), special eyes were then manifested on her, which became the start of Dojutsu. After that, Hagoromo then taught everyone about chakra. This explains how everyone got their chakra, as Hagoromo did not have enough chakra to pass onto everyone. It also explains how everyone else didn't manifest special eyes.

      Natural energy is not the chakra of plants and we do not know if the shinju was the first plant on earth

      chakra i the combination of physical and spiritual energy. plants have neither physical nor spiritual energy. they are not sentient Neither is the shinju the shinju was worshiped as a god by the ancient people in Naruto but its not a god, it is just a tree that has a very strong life force. it is akin to an organism. there are organisms that have very diverse genetic features on earth eating say a special berry can have effects on the body like hallucinations it is just the fruit of the shinju had a very strong life force that caused kaguya to develop a very powerful body. with that she combined her physical energy(that was enhanced by the shinju fruit) with her spiritual energies creating chakra)

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    • '-_-....yeah, I'd leave the speculation until we know everything that we can know from Kishimoto...

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