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Senjutsu of the Six Paths

  • Why did Madara say that Naruto got the sage's senjutsu? Could it be because the Sage's power was based on the juubi's, which is pretty much all senjutsu, so when he gave naruto his power...u get the point.

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    • Madara said it because he was analyzing the new power both Sasuke and Naruto just awakened but now your talking about what that sage power is that's a whole different subject.

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    • no, i know the context of WHY he said it... i meant what did he MEAN by it

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    • I don't think him elaborating on his situation has any meaning.

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    • Ok,Ok,Ok. what did he mean by "senjutsu of the six paths"?

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    • I think I understand your question, well I think to answer this you need to know what raw senjutsu is which is Natural Energy. Natural Energy can vary in which Naruto obtained the hermits unique senjutsu. I think that answer's that or am I wrong, sorry if I don't understand the question.

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    • So the sage's unique senjutsu is the orbs?

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    • No just a trait.

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    • The way I get it is that Naruto is now permanently in Sage Mode.

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    • So who is stronger naruto with the senjutsu of the six paths or the rinnegan that sasuke has now. If they fight again... will naruto win? Or will Sasuke win?

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    • The point is them being even

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    • SuperSajuuk
      SuperSajuuk removed this reply because:
      Nonsense, irrelevant to discussion
      15:10, April 22, 2014
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      Who will become hokage then?

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    • sorry but why does it not say on his page at the wiki that he can use Lava style and Yin Yang release. Seriously I know it's manga only but he can use it and it should say that on the page. His saying that because he is using the power of Senjutsu that comes from all 9 tailed beast and natural energy.

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    • Because it's wrong. He never showed YinYang Release and the Lava Release was Son Goku's, not Naruto's.

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    • @Seel, tell this to all-mighty sysops.

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    • naruto is using yinyang release the truth seeking orbs are yin-yang release. if u read back the 2nd hokage had said obito had used this nature transformation to negate all ninjutsu except senjutsu

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    • My analysis, based on observation:

      Six Paths Senjutsu represents the "physical" power of the Sage of Six Paths, as opposed to the Rinnegan which represents his "mental" power. It seems to be characterized by the marking of a single rinne and nine tomoe on the user's back, as well as the manifestation of the Truthseeker Orbs, as seen with Obito, Madara, and Naruto. This particular "Sage Mode" transformation seems to draw its Natural Energy passively from the Jinchuuriki's Biju.

      Obito and Madara underwent physical transformations, whereas Naruto's transformation seems to extend only to his chakra cloak. This may be because Obito and Madara became host to the Juubi including its physical form (the Gedo Statue), while Naruto only became host to the chakra of the nine Biju.

      I believe that the Truthseeker Orbs are likely a simultaneous combination of all chakra natures, infused and manipulated with Natural Energy in the same way that Naruto used Senjutsu to safely wield and throw his Rasenshuriken -- hence the limited range of control. The Truthseeker Orbs are also passively generated and are essentially "always active," causing them to behave more like tools, which can be discarded or lost.

      I believe that Naruto should be listed as a Lava Release and Magnet Release user (he is, after all, using these techniques), it just needs to be noted that these are Tailed Beast Skills, not Kekkei Genkai (same as with Roshi).

      Also, may be worth noting that in Viz's translation, Madara specifically identifies Sasuke's new eye as the "one-eyed Rinnegan," which may have intended signifigance beyond him only gaining one Rinnegan, as Kaguya's single Sharingan also transformed into a sort of "one-eyed" Rinnegan. So it might be that "One-Eyed Rinnegan" refers to a specific type of Rinnegan.

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    • @Sochi, no. What the TSB are before anything else is the Ten-Tails' chakra or as in case of Naruto, chakras of all 9 Tailed Beasts + Senjutsu chakra of Hagoromo. Chakra just don't happen to be a nature, it has to be transformed using nature transformation. This is what people don't get. Obito's usage was "at least 4 natures" and then he added YYR. It means TSB's nature composition varies from use to use.

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    • This man speaks the truth. This is, IMO, the smartest choice of action

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    • @FF-Suzaku

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote:

      Also, may be worth noting that in Viz's translation, Madara specifically identifies Sasuke's new eye as the "one-eyed Rinnegan," which may have intended signifigance beyond him only gaining one Rinnegan, as Kaguya's single Sharingan also transformed into a sort of "one-eyed" Rinnegan. So it might be that "One-Eyed Rinnegan" refers to a specific type of Rinnegan.

      Do you have any idea why there's no raw of that chapter available? I'd like to double-check this but I can't get my hands on it...

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    • No idea. A recent crackdown on bootleggers or leakers, maybe. For quite a while now, the Japanese netabare stuff has actually just been translations of English scanlations, and the people who used to leak pictures or scripts have been MIA, and the one website I recall that used to post up scripts and analysis has just been doing analysis (and complaining about the impact of the new Japanese sales tax on Weekly Shonen Jump).

      And, of course, next week is a double issue and that always has an unpredictable effect on bootlegs and leaked spoilers.

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    • Okay, if next week's a double issue, I was right regarding that...

      But if there's been a crackdown, why's there an even bigger leak from next week's Weekly Shonen Jump now? Also, are the raws released on the weekend leaks, too? I always thought they were regularly bought issues...

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    • Suzaku thinks, you just solved my problem. So it is the One-Eyed Rinnegan, that is the most official name we have for it right now. It should be added to the page and the red tomoe rinnegan image should be added to the wiki and Sasuke's page.

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    • Lately, I think the raws have probably been purchased -- not that it makes them any less illegal. And the Western scanlators are getting their scans from their own (private) contacts much earlier, probably because there's less risk of them getting in trouble.

      I'm not sure why the latest issue of WSJ (No.21) hasn't made it online yet, since the issue was released on Monday. Either the bootleggers were delayed, couldn't afford it with the increased sale tax (haha) or were headed off by Shueisha's lawyers / the authorities / threats. Japanese bootleggers tend to be pretty skiddish, it seems to me.

      The 674 spoilers are from WSJ's ongoing Read Early With a Smartphone!! (スマホで早読み!!, Sumaho de Hayayomi!!) promotion. According to this page, you can only choose to preview one page of the next chapter, and some pages are declared NG (no good / off limits) by the editors. So what most likely happened is one or more people managed to get all of the preview pages by doing the preview multiple times. So that's why it's almost the complete chapter.

      The smartphone preview thing is probably an attempt by Shueisha to curtail spoilers and leaks by giving people an official alternative (which requires both the physical purchase of a magazine and the installation of their bookstore app). They probably also want people to preview different pages and then share/discuss what they saw, to generate more buzz and hype, so it becomes a sort of transmedia puzzle for fans to put together and speculate about. Pretty smart, really.

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    • Naruto can use yin and yang so why does it not show on his chakra nature area that he can use it? It was there before, and now it isn't.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: According to this page, you can only choose to preview one page of the next chapter, and some pages are declared NG (no good / off limits) by the editors. So what most likely happened is one or more people managed to get all of the preview pages by doing the preview multiple times. So that's why it's almost the complete chapter.

      Actually, hah, you can upload the last page of the bootleg scanlation to that site and it works just like taking a photo.

      http://www.shonenjump.com/xmedia/jumpbookstore/acr_hayayomi/wj21/oonntrt/src/page01.jpg

      Then you just change the digits of the url to get the other pages.

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    • So that means this is the fourth week of the promotion, right? Do you have an idea how long this will go on? Someone told me that it would only be three weeks long, but well, it obviously isn't...

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    • I didn't even know that it was a promotion.

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