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  • Does anyone else think that jutsu infoboxes should include the technique's creator (if it is known)? For example:

    Flying Thunder God Technique - Tobirama Senju

    Sexy Technique - Naruto Uzumaki

    Wind Release: Rasenshuriken - Naruto Uzumaki

    Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms - Hinata Hyūga

    Eight Gates - Might Dai

    Shadow Imitation Shuriken Technique - Shikamaru Nara

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    • Way too few techniques with a known creator to justify a field for it. Also, just because Dai spent two decades working on it, doesn't mean he created it. Madara knew about the effects, so unless we learn that the reason he knows that is because Zetsu were spying him use it, Eight Gates were already known of and used before the ninja villages existed.

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    • What sort of number would we be looking at to make it viable? I mean we know the process for Human Puppets was developed by Sasori, and Deidara's explosive clay is his own creation by fusing bakuton and the Iwagakure kinjutsu.

      There's any number of Rasengan and Chidori variants which belong to Naruto, Sasuke, Jiraiya and Kakashi.

      This might actually be a pretty good idea, especially in relation to things like the multitude of game jutsu articles. It would also separate derivitives, like just because Minato created the Rasengan, people might assume he's the authority, but Naruto has actually created the most variations of the technique.

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    • Hawkeye2701 wrote: There's any number of Rasengan and Chidori variants which belong to Naruto, Sasuke, Jiraiya and Kakashi.

      They're also the only user, meaning there's little to gain from singling them out as creator.

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    • Except as I pointed out, it could be used to separate the derived techniques of one user from the core moves of another.

      Especially if we take the core move as example, where as we list Minato, Jiraiya and Naruto all as users of Rasengan, a note on creator in the infobox saves some time distinguishing who used it first as Jiraiya is the oldest user, but not the creator, Naruto is the most prolific user, but not the creator and Minato is the creator and thus first to use the technique. Similar process for Kakashi and Sasuke on the Chidori.

      Fair enough, for techniques with only a single user and no note as to having learned it elsewhere, it doesn't add much, but in the case of techniques with multiple users, it would make a useful shorthand.

      As I'm sure the response to this logic is going to be "Well they can just look at the article for that" this is practically true for the Classification, Tailed Beast, Affiliation, Clan and Family sections of any of the character pages with said information, so please don't respond with that and expect me to accept it as a reasonable response to this. There's going to be repeated information somewhere on the wiki, but if it makes it more accessible and easier to look up for the users, why not do it?

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    • Hawkeye2701 wrote: Fair enough, for techniques with only a single user and no note as to having learned it elsewhere, it doesn't add much, but in the case of techniques with multiple users, it would make a useful shorthand.

      But that just returns to the issue of there not being enough applicable cases to make implementation worthwhile. How many jutsu have more than one user where one of those users is known to be the creator? 10?

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    • Let's see -

      Rasengan - Minato

      Chidori - Kakashi

      Mangekyou Sharingan - Madara (Kinda iffy, it's a mutation, but he was the first to use it)

      Susanoo - Madara

      Yasaka Magatama - Madara

      Ten tails sword - Hagaromo

      Impure World Resurrection - Tobirama Senju

      Flying Thunder God - Tobirama Senju

      Hokage Style sixty year old technique - Hashirama

      true Several thousand hands - Hashirama

      Top Transformed Buddha - Hashirama

      Wood Clone - Hashirama

      Nativity of a world of trees - Hashirama

      Advent of a world of flowering trees - Hashirama

      Great Forest technique - Hashirama

      Wood Release Dragon - Hashirama

      About sixteen that came directly to mind, but if there's more, feel free to inform me, I'd be interested to know all the same.

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    • I don't see any reason why we can't mention this in the technique's text, but need a space for it in the box.

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    • yea i agree as well since it's just going to be one name that we are going to add to each box. I don't see what can possibly go wrong

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    • I'm fine with this since if we assign it a property, we can also add it to the character's infobox, etc...

      The only thing is that the field should be automatically hidden if empty.

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    • It's kinda complicated to make it hidden for certain pages since it's java script we're working with.

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    • Sharveshk15 wrote: It's kinda complicated to make it hidden for certain pages since it's java script we're working with.

      Huh, what? I always thought they called it wikitext.

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    • oh i'm sorry because i'm really new here. In that case I can try to make the pages without a creator of the jutsu automatically hide the field. it's possible.

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    • I won't lie, I thought this wasn't going to go anywhere and I was just banging my head against a wall, but I'm actually kinda impressed.

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    • So have you arrived at any conclusions?

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    • I don't see a need for this, why don't we simply mention it in unique cases like we do now? Naturally Hashirama created most if not all of the wood release techniques and Tobirama the rest of them ;D I guess if say I'm neutral to this.

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    • Tobirama can't have, he doesn't have wood release. Though Yamato and the Zetsus seem to have ones unique to themselves.

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    • I also don't think we need a "Creator section". Basically, because not every technique can have it, and the techniques whom we know had creators are mentioned in the article. It would be an unneeded field.

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