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::::Uuh...? When was it ever stated that he couldn't have his own unique abilities as a unique entity? Exactly, it wasn't. Just because Black Zetsu has displayed Sensory abilities doesn't mean White Zetsu has the same ones, especially since Black Zetsu was shown having to tell White Zetsu of perception, which he would've sensed on his own had he had the capability. Maybe white Zetsu can sense though, but to my knowledge there isn't one notable example of him doing so. [[User:Skarrj|Skarrj]] ([[User talk:Skarrj|talk]]) 07:50, May 30, 2014 (UTC) |
::::Uuh...? When was it ever stated that he couldn't have his own unique abilities as a unique entity? Exactly, it wasn't. Just because Black Zetsu has displayed Sensory abilities doesn't mean White Zetsu has the same ones, especially since Black Zetsu was shown having to tell White Zetsu of perception, which he would've sensed on his own had he had the capability. Maybe white Zetsu can sense though, but to my knowledge there isn't one notable example of him doing so. [[User:Skarrj|Skarrj]] ([[User talk:Skarrj|talk]]) 07:50, May 30, 2014 (UTC) |
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:::::Of course he can. We even saw some - telepathy, body resizing, mind control, live-support, using any abilities of the host. Just don't try to argue something that is not clearly stated. Black Zetsu had WZ body when he used "sensing". Period. There is nothing to add about it. We are very liberal and we are actually adding to BZ any ability of any body he uses - sensing, kamui, mokuton, rinnegan. But let's just stop there and not try to remove respective abilities from other articles.[[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 07:57, May 30, 2014 (UTC) |
:::::Of course he can. We even saw some - telepathy, body resizing, mind control, live-support, using any abilities of the host. Just don't try to argue something that is not clearly stated. Black Zetsu had WZ body when he used "sensing". Period. There is nothing to add about it. We are very liberal and we are actually adding to BZ any ability of any body he uses - sensing, kamui, mokuton, rinnegan. But let's just stop there and not try to remove respective abilities from other articles.[[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 07:57, May 30, 2014 (UTC) |
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| + | ::::::It was never clearly stated that White Zetsu had sensory abilities on his own. He never even demonstrated any sensory abilities when Black Zetsu did. Black Zetsu even had to inform White Zetsu of what he sensed, clearly suggesting White Zetsu didn't have the ability on his own. On top of that none of White Zetsu's clones demonstrated it either, and they were capable of everything White Zetsu was. And "let's just stop there and not try to remove respective abilities from other articles" isn't proof or a reason to assume White Zetsu can sense. He might be able to sense, sure, but Sasori might be able to sense also. The bottom line is that Black Zetsu displayed Sensory Perception, and sensed people, and then had to actually alert White Zetsu of the perception, which clearly suggests White Zetsu could not sense them. [[User:Skarrj|Skarrj]] ([[User talk:Skarrj|talk]]) 21:00, May 31, 2014 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 21:00, 31 May 2014
Possible Dōjutsu
Anyone remember this - http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/File:Zetsu%27s_dojutsu.png ? While BZ can "record" events, WZ eye has properties similar to the Byakugan: Naruto chapter 255, page 10. Back then it made no sense, and now I think Kishimoto purposely didn't show us this jutsu again just to make sure we, readers, won't think about it too early in the manga. But now all of it make sense - WZ is derived from Hashirama's clone, Hashi-.....-Ashura-Hagoromo-Kaguya. And Kaguya had a Byakugan, was original user of it. Should we mention Zetsu's possible dōjutsu and its connection to the Byakugan somewhere in the article? Not directly claiming it's a watered down version of Byakugan, maybe...Faust-RSI (talk) 07:51, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
- Relevant old discussions:
- Zetsu's physical body is literally only a few yards away from Team Guy, so I don't see reason to think he's displaying stellar vision in that scene. ~SnapperTo 08:04, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
Not a Sensor Type
White Zetsu has never been seen sensing anyone, so he should not be classified as such. Is somebody in disagreement with this, or did him being listed as a sensor just slip through the cracks when the articles were split?--BeyondRed (talk) 14:12, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
- White Zetsu is absolutely a sensor. He was the one who alerted Obito to the presence of Naruto and Killer B's chakras on the battlefield, after they escaped the Island Turtle, and then was told to inform Black Zetsu. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
15:15, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
- It was the other way around. Black Zetsu sensed the jinchuriki and informed White Zetsu (and Obito by extension) using roots.--BeyondRed (talk) 15:21, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
- No. Black Zetsu only uses abilities of the body he parasitize on. That time he used white zetsu mass, so he got mokuton and sensor abilities from it.Faust-RSI (talk) 06:44, May 29, 2014 (UTC)
- Uuh...? When was it ever stated that he couldn't have his own unique abilities as a unique entity? Exactly, it wasn't. Just because Black Zetsu has displayed Sensory abilities doesn't mean White Zetsu has the same ones, especially since Black Zetsu was shown having to tell White Zetsu of perception, which he would've sensed on his own had he had the capability. Maybe white Zetsu can sense though, but to my knowledge there isn't one notable example of him doing so. Skarrj (talk) 07:50, May 30, 2014 (UTC)
- Of course he can. We even saw some - telepathy, body resizing, mind control, live-support, using any abilities of the host. Just don't try to argue something that is not clearly stated. Black Zetsu had WZ body when he used "sensing". Period. There is nothing to add about it. We are very liberal and we are actually adding to BZ any ability of any body he uses - sensing, kamui, mokuton, rinnegan. But let's just stop there and not try to remove respective abilities from other articles.Faust-RSI (talk) 07:57, May 30, 2014 (UTC)
- It was never clearly stated that White Zetsu had sensory abilities on his own. He never even demonstrated any sensory abilities when Black Zetsu did. Black Zetsu even had to inform White Zetsu of what he sensed, clearly suggesting White Zetsu didn't have the ability on his own. On top of that none of White Zetsu's clones demonstrated it either, and they were capable of everything White Zetsu was. And "let's just stop there and not try to remove respective abilities from other articles" isn't proof or a reason to assume White Zetsu can sense. He might be able to sense, sure, but Sasori might be able to sense also. The bottom line is that Black Zetsu displayed Sensory Perception, and sensed people, and then had to actually alert White Zetsu of the perception, which clearly suggests White Zetsu could not sense them. Skarrj (talk) 21:00, May 31, 2014 (UTC)
- Of course he can. We even saw some - telepathy, body resizing, mind control, live-support, using any abilities of the host. Just don't try to argue something that is not clearly stated. Black Zetsu had WZ body when he used "sensing". Period. There is nothing to add about it. We are very liberal and we are actually adding to BZ any ability of any body he uses - sensing, kamui, mokuton, rinnegan. But let's just stop there and not try to remove respective abilities from other articles.Faust-RSI (talk) 07:57, May 30, 2014 (UTC)
- Uuh...? When was it ever stated that he couldn't have his own unique abilities as a unique entity? Exactly, it wasn't. Just because Black Zetsu has displayed Sensory abilities doesn't mean White Zetsu has the same ones, especially since Black Zetsu was shown having to tell White Zetsu of perception, which he would've sensed on his own had he had the capability. Maybe white Zetsu can sense though, but to my knowledge there isn't one notable example of him doing so. Skarrj (talk) 07:50, May 30, 2014 (UTC)
- No. Black Zetsu only uses abilities of the body he parasitize on. That time he used white zetsu mass, so he got mokuton and sensor abilities from it.Faust-RSI (talk) 06:44, May 29, 2014 (UTC)
- It was the other way around. Black Zetsu sensed the jinchuriki and informed White Zetsu (and Obito by extension) using roots.--BeyondRed (talk) 15:21, May 28, 2014 (UTC)