Talk: Water Prison Technique

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“	Despite the fact that the prison is made up entirely out of water, it is stronger than steel as stated by Zabuza Momochi.	”

Where this has ever been said? I just saw the anime, re-read the mangá, and I didn't remember to see Zabuza stating that.—This unsigned comment was made by 98.26.246.74 (talk • contribs) .

I can't find where it is said either...--Cerez365^™

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Suigetsu

In which game Suigetsu uses this technique? Rafael Uchiha 17:32, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

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-I think there is two types of this technique, one to catch the opponent and one that lets him drown. The one Zabuza used on Kakashi was ment to keep the prisoner safe (Zabuza said that he wanted to fight Kakashi alone and wanted to get rid of team 7 so the jonins could fight themselves), so Kakashi was still abel to breathe (thus beeing abel to talk and move). Kisame wanted to fight Might Guy alone too, but he caught team Guy insteed, and since he diden't cared about them, he was going to let them drown.  [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 19:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
-:Perhaps, but it's also possible that the jutsu merely lets the user control that aspect of the prison. Unless there is some alternate name or sign used in the creation of it, it wouldn't be right to separate them. ~<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="Dantman does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> [[User:Dantman|Daniel Friesen]]<small> (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire)</small> <sup>([[User_talk:Dantman|talk]])</sup><nowiki/> <small>[[Forum:Javascript addtions to searchbox|current discussion]]</small> <small>Oct 26, 2008 <sub>@</sub> 12:34 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
-::I diden't mean to make two pages, just mention it. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 13:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
-== Neji ==
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+{{Quote|Despite the fact that the prison is made up entirely out of water, it is stronger than steel as stated by Zabuza Momochi.}}
+Where this has ever been said? I just saw the anime, re-read the mangá, and I didn't remember to see Zabuza stating that.{{unsigned|98.26.246.74}}
+:I can't find where it is said either...--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:51, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
+== Suigetsu ==
-Was it that he disrupted the chakra, or that he used Rotation to just burst out? [[User:Thomas Finlayson|Thomas Finlayson]] ([[User talk:Thomas Finlayson|talk]]) 02:03, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
+In which game Suigetsu uses this technique? [[User:Rafael Uchiha|<font face="Magneto" size="4" color="black">'''Rafael'''</font>]] [[Message Wall:Rafael Uchiha|<font face="MV Boli" size="4" color="Firebrick">'''Uchiha'''</font>]] 17:32, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
-:''Once trapped the target is unable to move while within it due to the heaviness of the water.'' From article.--[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate3|talk]]) 02:05, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
-He just release chakra from all his tenketsu, like he did when he couldn't move because of Kidomaru's spiderweb. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:07, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
-Roatation involves letting the chakra burst out, that can be either a phsycial push "or" disruption. [[User:Thomas Finlayson|Thomas Finlayson]] ([[User talk:Thomas Finlayson|talk]]) 02:11, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
-Release chakra from tenketsu disrupts/pushes away other stuff. Release chakra and spinning fast enough pushes away everything. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:29, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
-:According to Kidomaru the spinning was more to cover the blind spot/hide the fact they have one. Moreover, Neji was standing still when Naruto first punched him, he only spun to send him flying about. [[User:Thomas Finlayson|Thomas Finlayson]] ([[User talk:Thomas Finlayson|talk]]) 02:34, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
-::About the releasing chakra from tenketsu, I mean the time when Kidomaru stuck Neji to a tree, and Neji said he can release chakra from all his tenketsu. When Naruto punched him, I think that Neji released chakra from his face, but as that wasn't enough to throw Naruto away, he spun. Just releasing can push something, but to push more than that, spinning is required. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 03:00, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
-And in this case? [[User:Thomas Finlayson|Thomas Finlayson]] ([[User talk:Thomas Finlayson|talk]]) 00:10, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
-:I would say he did only just a regular chakra disruption. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:13, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
-== Class: Defensive ==
-Was it reverted back to just supplementary because of the databooks? [[User:Thomas Finlayson|Thomas Finlayson]] ([[User talk:Thomas Finlayson|talk]]) 23:18, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
-:Yes.--[[User:Deva 27|Deva 27]] ([[User talk:Deva 27|talk]]) 23:20, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
-::(Sigh) Minor question, do jutsu can updates in the databooks if something new happens with them (Rasenshuriken for example)? What I mean is, can we expect the next databook (when will that be again?) to note that it can also be used defensively, or will it mainly be dedicated to the new stuff. [[User:Thomas Finlayson|Thomas Finlayson]] ([[User talk:Thomas Finlayson|talk]]) 23:31, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
-:::There has never been a jutsu update in the databooks. At least not so far, the next might be different. Still, in the meantime, it cannot be denied that the Water Prison has some sort of defensive capabilities. However, this was a very special case. It wasn't so much a defensive use as more of a supplementary use direct on oneself. Kisame didn't use the technique to defend himself, he sued it to lock himself in with the sharks he summoned afterwards.
-:::It's only normal that it would be difficult to break through the prison from the outside. That's why it's a prison. In a normal fight, under normal circumstances, using it as a defensive technique would be silly at best. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 00:33, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
-It's likely this could come up with any number of jutsu. Just keep in mind that the Class is how it's intended to be used, and creative uses are just that. Example, a shotgun is Class offensive, using it as a door jam doesn't make it supplementary. [[User:Arrancar79|Arrancar79]] ([[User talk:Arrancar79|talk]]) 01:01, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
-:...and a sword to block and a shield to club, very well. Could the defensive be noted a wee bit more clearly in the writeup though? Why would it be 'silly' to use it as a defensive technique though? 360 degree defense and normal physical damage unable to do anything. Granted the user is stuck in place as long as it is active, but similiar constraints with earth jutsu defenses. [[User:Thomas Finlayson|Thomas Finlayson]] ([[User talk:Thomas Finlayson|talk]]) 18:42, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
-::As it is currently stated, "Because of the density of the water it can be used for defensive purposes if performed on oneself" seems to cover it, agreed? [[User:Arrancar79|Arrancar79]] ([[User talk:Arrancar79|talk]]) 18:51, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
-:::Using it as a defensive technique would be silly, because Water Prison's first and foremost function is to keep things inside, locked up, and unable to move and breathe. In other words, although you might be quite well protected, you'll also be drowning, immobile, and unable to attack. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 18:53, September 6, 2010 (UTC)