Huh ?
When was it ever decided to make pages like this ? This just appears to contain c/p'd data from other articles and is overall pointless. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 16:56, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
Even tho I disagree with Spey's opinion on article relevance and deletion by accordance to it's supposed insufficiency, I share his sentiments when it comes to this one--Elveonora (talk) 17:14, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- Doesn't necessarily has to be deleted. Redirect to Shinobi Organisational System or something more relevant if it can be found and the entire history of the shinobi world can be found in one place/flow into each other.--Cerez365™
(talk) 17:18, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
It is a notable (canon) event. That appearently has someting of an influence on the current plotline. We list events, canon material (and non-canon for that matter), and things that have influence on the current plotline. Like Cerez-shi said, we can add more to it and make it a respectable page.--Yomiko-chan (talk) 17:30, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
I think it should be kept. It is specifically named and we have enough information, it just needs to be cleaned up a bit. This is a historical era, it would not fit on the Shinobi Orginisational page in my opinion.--Deva 27 17:50, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- Thing is, the contents of this page are mentioned elsewhere on more prominent pages (eg, character pages), a page to centralise it is unnecessary. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 17:51, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- That would be just like if we put all the different vaiations of Rasengan in one page.--Yomiko-chan (talk) 18:09, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- Why does it have to be decided, Speysider, to make an article like this? From what looks like the coming chapters, this era will be gone in thorough detail. 'Its in other articles' isn't the excuse not to have this main page. We have a pain page for the Fourth Shinobi World War and the Third Shinobi World War, so we need this topic to add more information. There is absolutely no reason why this article should be deleted.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 18:51, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- Because we have never made articles for any other events like this. If one is made for this event, then we have to set a precedent and do it for every other event. And you can't compare this to the Arc overview pages, nor can you assume that Kishi will discuss this in great detail spanning a ton of chapters. It's obvious that when people make articles like this one, they don't realise the implications that it creates and don't realise that a precedent is set for it. Food for thought there. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 18:58, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- We haven't? We made articles for the Third Shinobi World War because of Kakashi Gaiden remember? We made articles about the First and Second Shinobi World Wars to mention the rise of the Sannin in the latter and the deaths of the first two Hokage in the former. This event impacts the current storyline big time given it goes down to the central conflict the series had made. From the way you're writing, Speysider, its like you don't like new articles being created at all and if there is one created, its a bad thing. No matter what the topic.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:02, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- Because we have never made articles for any other events like this. If one is made for this event, then we have to set a precedent and do it for every other event. And you can't compare this to the Arc overview pages, nor can you assume that Kishi will discuss this in great detail spanning a ton of chapters. It's obvious that when people make articles like this one, they don't realise the implications that it creates and don't realise that a precedent is set for it. Food for thought there. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 18:58, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- Why does it have to be decided, Speysider, to make an article like this? From what looks like the coming chapters, this era will be gone in thorough detail. 'Its in other articles' isn't the excuse not to have this main page. We have a pain page for the Fourth Shinobi World War and the Third Shinobi World War, so we need this topic to add more information. There is absolutely no reason why this article should be deleted.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 18:51, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- That would be just like if we put all the different vaiations of Rasengan in one page.--Yomiko-chan (talk) 18:09, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
This is my last post in this topic, honestly people need to grow up and stop attacking me for just about everything I do here, it's childish and immature. If you want to talk to me about it more, go to my talkpage.
@SuperSaiyaMan: We've never made articles about two clans warring together. Those other events do not count and are irrelevant to this discussion. Also, stop accusing me of stuff that isn't true. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 19:06, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- But the point is we've gone into other Wars, which set a precedence. This is a war that precedes the entire story and is being put in great importance. And can you blame me for calling you out? All last night you were trying to get new articles deleted, even if they were a named character. And I checked your talk page, TheUltimate3 even gave you a heads up about doing exactly what you're doing here. I didn't mean to sound confrontational, but you were advocating deletion hard work on an event that is being elaborated on finally in canon. Before, we didn't have enough information about the Warring Clans Era. Now, that we do, you advocate deletion even though it seems Kishimoto is staying in this era for two more chapters at least.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:12, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- I don't really give a damn anymore, do whatever the hell you want but don't come to me complaining about any problems this articles creates. You lot need to back off and stop being so defensive just because someone put a delete tag on the page. Anyone here ever heard of good faith ? Clearly not, enlighten yourselves to this section of a policy. The way everyone goes ape crazy over a delete tag is pathetic behaviour. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 19:16, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- Again, you're not seeing it from the point of view of the editor here. What 'problems' exist from this article existing? DO we have problems with the other War articles, yes or no?--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:19, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- Read what I said again. Don't come to me complaining about any issues that may come up in the future from this article, like other warring clans articles being created because of this one. Anyway, discussion closed. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 19:21, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- Again, you're not seeing it from the point of view of the editor here. What 'problems' exist from this article existing? DO we have problems with the other War articles, yes or no?--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:19, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- I don't really give a damn anymore, do whatever the hell you want but don't come to me complaining about any problems this articles creates. You lot need to back off and stop being so defensive just because someone put a delete tag on the page. Anyone here ever heard of good faith ? Clearly not, enlighten yourselves to this section of a policy. The way everyone goes ape crazy over a delete tag is pathetic behaviour. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 19:16, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
Other Clans?
i think you guys that the Hyuga Clan must be mentioned there since it was an ancient clan. --Cassie122 (talk) 18:48, February 27, 2013 (UTC)