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== Useful Info ==
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There is some good info [http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4869 here] that's been translated from the databook that we could have added to the article. Namely I see some stuff about the Military Police Force there. ~<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="Dantman does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> [[User:Dantman|Daniel Friesen]]<small> (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire)</small> <sup>([[User_talk:Dantman|talk]])</sup><nowiki/> <small>[[Forum:Javascript addtions to searchbox|current discussion]]</small> <small>Dec 10, 2007 <sub>@</sub> 05:18 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
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== Eyes. ==
   
== Capitilization ==
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Should something be added to trivia about the eye trenches? Seeing as Madara, Izuna and even their father had them? And it's not just their family who has them. Itachi also has these same trenches, and a few other Uchiha have been shown to have them. Just thought it may be trivia worthy? [[User:SusanooUnleashed|SusanooUnleashed]] ([[User talk:SusanooUnleashed|talk]]) 10:05, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
   
Shouldn't the "C" in ''clan'' be capitilized since it is specifically the Uchiha Clan? 07:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Could you define and elaborate on "eye trenches"? --[[Special:Contributions/98.101.165.89|98.101.165.89]] ([[User talk:98.101.165.89|talk]]) 11:28, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
:Clan is not a proper noun, afaik there is no reason for clan to be capitalized. Clan is just something added onto the name to specify what it is, not a hard-written part of the name. "Uchiha clan" could also be referred to as "the Uchihas" or anything else, it's just a different way of saying it, so by no means is it a solid title where the entire thing is capitalized, besides, the lower case word is better for linking. ~<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="Dantman does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> [[User:Dantman|Daniel Friesen]]<small> (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire)</small> <sup>([[User_talk:Dantman|talk]])</sup><nowiki/> <small>[[Forum:Javascript addtions to searchbox|current discussion]]</small> <small>Feb 16, 2008 <sub>@</sub> 08:16 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
 
   
== Who are the Three New Uchiha ==
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The deep lines that are under their eyes? [[User:SusanooUnleashed|SusanooUnleashed]] ([[User talk:SusanooUnleashed|talk]]) 12:25, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
   
A few weeks ago I saw three new Uchiha names on this page. I wanted to wait to see what happened with the names, but nothing did. I went to check this website called Leafninja.com and the Uchiha with these names, Hikaku, Setsuna, and Yakumi aren't on there. I was going to delete them, but I thought about talking about them first on here on the discussion page, to find out if anyone might know who they are. Again the names are Hikaku Uchiha, Setsuna Uchiha, and Yakumi Uchiha. [[User:Hopemon|Hopemon]] 21:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
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Going through the pics of those you mentioned, only Itachi and Tajima seemed to have had them. Even going through the rest of the named Uchiha, it is those two who seem to have the lines in almost every known occassion. Setsuna Uchiha is the only other one who could have them, based on the only pics I could find of him. The times some of the other characters seem to have details under the eyes appear to be simply artistic decisions to make the character have depth and the face look less flat in certain angles, expressions, etc. But either way, I do not believe there is any evidence to support such an addition to the trivia. --[[Special:Contributions/98.101.165.89|98.101.165.89]] ([[User talk:98.101.165.89|talk]]) 14:20, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
:I think I have seen them before, and then they was removed because they were fan made. I'm going to remove them, and if they are part of some game, change them back. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 04:36, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
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:Relatives usually have similar features. It's not really necessary to genetic things like that. If it were a case where there painted them on (like the Akimichi) or chose to wear their hair in a certain style like the (Nara) then yes. But we don't mention that all Yamanaka are blond(e) well Fū's hair was auburn, but you get what I mean.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]
   
Well Jacce I guess Hikaku, Setsuna, and Yakumi have a spot as an Uchiha. But did they come up in the third data book? [[User:Hopemon|Hopemon]] 04:45, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
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== Dōjutsu ==
:I haven't read the book myself, but their pages were made by a trusted member, so I guess I was wrong. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 05:38, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
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Why can't we add the EMS or Rinnegan to it? Is it because the Rinnegan existed before the Uchiha clan came along in the Sage of the Six Paths? Also I think we should defintely add EMS because it is exclusive to the Uchiha clan just like the regular MS. '''''[[User talk:Banan14kab|<span style="color:black">Banan</span><sup><span style="color:goldenrod">14</span></sup><span style="color:blue" >kab</span>]]''''' 02:28, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
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:EMS is not a natural progression of the eye nor is the Rinnegan. Hence they are not dōjutsu of the clan.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:55, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
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What Cerez says, if we added Rinnegan as Uchiha KKG then we would also have to add Wood Release too because Senju stuff is required to unlock it and Obito/Madara have it for example--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:00, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
   
== Missing-Nin ==
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Though it's not a natural progression, if i'm not mistaken, to unlock EMS it is required to integrate a pair of Sharingan with your own. Which still means it is exclusive to the Uchiha. --[[User:Questionaredude|Questionaredude]] ([[User talk:Questionaredude|talk]]) 03:52, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
   
Ok where did it say they are missing ninja? All of the Uchiha lived in the village and only three have became missing ninja. (Sasuke Uchiha, Itachi Uchiha, and Madara Uchiha) All of the Uchiha clan cannot be missing if they all was in the village till they got killed by Itachi and Madara. Can someone tell me where or when it said they were all missing. [[User:Hopemon|Hopemon]] 18:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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I agree with Questionaredude. EMS should be included. It's not a natural progression, but a modification of the MS which is still from the clan. '''''[[User talk:Banan14kab|<span style="color:black">Banan</span><sup><span style="color:goldenrod">14</span></sup><span style="color:blue" >kab</span>]]''''' 06:18, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
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:However, should Kakashi get his hands on another Mangekyō Sharingan and integrate it into his own, he'd be able to acquire the EMS- that's what I mean by it's not a natural progression. Anybody could do it. Maybe if the eye had more of a distinction then it could be considered separate and apart from the MS, but the EMS is just an MS you can't go blind using.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:04, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
   
*it ment all of the survivors of clan massacre
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EMS isn't level 3 of Sharingan, it's a cheat, godmode on if you will ;D--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:50, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
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:I believe during the series Itachi mentioned that in order to obtain the EMS it is necessary a MS compatible with the owners MS. Until now, i believed that when talking about "compatible" he wanted to say that it has to be a direct bloodline (Brother, Father, etc.) and it has to be both eyes and not just one. Am i wrong here?. [[User:Dan.Faulkner|Dan.Faulkner]] ([[User talk:Dan.Faulkner|talk]]) 12:45, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
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== Members ==
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This page needs an update. New Uchiha clan members were introduced in [[Izanagi and Izanami|''Naruto: Shippuden'' Episode #338]]. [[User:EternalBeast|<span style="font-family:Impact; color:black; font-size:17px;">Eternal</span>]][[User talk:EternalBeast|<span style="color:#92000A; text-shadow:0.5px 0.5px red; font-family:Impact;font-size:17px">Beast</span>]] 09:05, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
   
== Uchiha Clan Breeding ==
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:It updates by itself but the infoboxes are experiencing problems. —'''[[User:SovanDara18|SovanDara18]]''' <sup><small>「 [[User talk:SovanDara18|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SovanDara18|Contribs]] 」</small></sup> 11:00, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
   
Hopefully this doesn't offend anyone, but it seems, at least in Itachi's case, the Uchiha clan might practice Incest as when Madara told Sasuke about Itachi's orders, he told that Itachi even killed his lover, so this meant that she was an Uchiha as well. Though I know that it probably shouldn't be mentioned, should we put this on the Uchiha Clan page? - Juubi no Ryuu
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== statues ==
   
:No, that's speculation, and poorly reasoned at that. Being part of the clan doesn't imply any relation that could be considered incest. Family has two children, those children have children with someone else, and those children have children with someone else, then one of those children marries one of the other ones. By that point in time they are distant relatives, not even cousins, yet they are part of the same clan. This is something that is known to happen throughout history, noble families have done this for centuries in the past to keep their family blood line "pure" by marrying within the distant family. This is nothing new or unexpected for a clan like the Uchiha, though at the same time you could just chalk this up as Itachi going out with another unrelated clan member. ~<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="Dantman does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> [[User:Dantman|Daniel Friesen]]<small> (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire)</small> <sup>([[User_talk:Dantman|talk]])</sup> <small>Apr 17, 2009 <sub>@</sub> 02:03 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
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Not sure where else should I post this... anyway, do you remember those statues shown in the chapter in which Itachi and Danzo talked together? I suppose those were the same as the ones shown on the latest chapter's cover, portrayals of Ashura and Indra, definitely worth of note. EDIT: chapter 590 it is...--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:31, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:Saying what - that Konoha had statues of dieties? It wasn't really associated with the Uchiha per se. It was cool that Itachi decided to walk the path of Asura though.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:57, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
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::Exactly what I was thinking, Cerez. Dat symbolism. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 08:16, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
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:::@Cerez, may you please add this somewhere? Perhaps to Konohagakure page--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:50, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
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::::Sure. I think Itachi's trivia would be best? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:55, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Why there? The actual objects reside in the village. Something like "statues of those gods reside wherever that is and they have also been shown on chapter cover blah blah"--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:16, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
Indeed, it's just speculation, I mean I'm no moderator or anything but I'm pretty sure speculations are not allowed to be posted on an article. It needs to be confirmed in some way, though in Japanese culture cousins do commonly marry/ breed, but we don't know if Kishimoto adapted that feature for the Uchiha (we're sure by speculation but no proof).--[[User:Artist of Flash|Artist of Flash]] ([[User talk:Artist of Flash|talk]]) 11:39, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
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==Children==
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We don't really know how many uchiha clan members there were when they died, but does anyone know if there were any children besides Sasuke. Itatchi is one of my favorite characters, but did he really kill children and infants? I s struggle to think Itatchi and Sasuke were the only young members of a clan large enough to stage a coup against the whole village.{{Unsigned|User:Sunblaster}}
Yes and it also links back to the definition of clan. A group of people united by '''actual''' or '''percieved''' kinship and descent meaning that there are 3 ways to become part of a clan. 1. One or both of your parents where part of the clan. 2. Marrying into the clan. 3. If not related to any member of the clan by blood, accepted as part of the clan by any of its members. The last two mean that not all members of a clan have to be related by blood therefore inbreeding is an option but not a necessity to reproduction of the clan. [[User:WolfMaster|WolfMaster]] ([[User talk:WolfMaster|talk]]) 00:10, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
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:If you asked Cerez, he would tell you that there were no other children besides Sasuke, but we don't know.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:23, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
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::Really ( '-') I don't remember ever having this discussion with you, but yes Sasuke was the only child born in that generation. How do we know you ask? He was the only person not drawn into the coup d'état because he was too young. That is by they said he was innocent. So unless they all thought that the other children who had already awakened their Mangekyō Sharingan were of more use than him, we can safely assume he was the only one. It's not uncommon for there to only be one child born in a generation.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:39, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
== Kirigakure ==
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:::Danzō said that even the young ones had to die. There definitley were other children besides Sasuke. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:52, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
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::::Seelentau's right. The only reason Sasuke was spared was because of Itachi's inability to kill his little brother, also Danzō used Sasuke's life as a bait to force Itachi into murdering his own clan.--[[User:JOA20|JOA20]] ([[User talk:JOA20|talk]]) 13:04, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
There may be Uchiha in Kirigakure since Madara was there {{unsigned|58.166.72.205}}
 
:Since its never been shown, or been mentioned, there's no point..-- [[User:AlienGamer|AlienGamer]]--[[User talk:AlienGamer|Talk]]-- 08:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 
I agree cuz the only Uchiha who've been near Kirigakure were Madara and Sasuke.{{unsigned|Amaterasu789}}
 
 
== Adding Rinnegan Icon ==
 
 
Should we add a Rinnegan icon, it seems that Sharingan was derived from Rinnegan according to Madara's story.{{unsigned|78.160.69.190}}
 
 
:No since no Uchiha's have ever been seen with the Rinnegan. Doing that would cause a lot of unnecessary confusion...--[[User:AlienGamer|AlienGamer]]--[[User talk:AlienGamer|Talk]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/AlienGamer|contribs]])</sup>-- 13:49, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
== Uchiha Shrine ==
 
 
I'm not sure if this is stated somewhere already but the Shrine under the Uchiha house seen multiple times in Sasuke's flashbacks has some signifigants. If its not stated anywhere I think a page or something like that should be made. It seems important and has been pointed out multiple times.--[[User:KingBarragan|KingBarragan, Rest in Peace]] ([[User talk:KingBarragan|talk]]) 10:53, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
== Hyuga's Offspring? ==
 
 
Kay, now it's 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% clear where the Uchiha clan came from. Then why ''"Kakashi explained that the Uchiha Clan was an offspring of Hyuga Clan."''?--[[User:Narutodude|Narutodude]] ([[User talk:Narutodude|talk]]) 02:31, October 16, 2009 (UTC)Narutodude
 
:Because Kakashi explained that the Uchiha clan are thought to be the descendants of the Hyūga clan. Something that can still be true, even with the recent revelations. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 16:45, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 
dont think so uchia and senju connected and from rinnegan but come on hyuga was there at the time as rinnegan we dont know when they came to the village uchia were there from the beginning so we can easily say that hyuga came from them due to know facts they been longerthen uchia first was the son of rinnegan user i think kakashi was talking about rumors but hey no one knew the rinnegan exist except jiraya so they dont know whole trueth of it{{Unsigned|74.141.196.205}}
 
 
:Uchiha and Senju do "connect" as you say, but you don't know how many Mutations [[:File:Dōjutsu Uchiha Ancestor.svg|this]] went through before it became [[:File:Sharingan Triple.svg|this]]. Saying that they weren't there (which is an assumption since we still don't know everything) isn't correct and as such, Kakashi's words still stand.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 20:33, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
no they have no standing at all kakashi is no uchia he would not no there history only uchia members like sasuke itachi in madara would take him for his word alone is crazy the creator probably was gonna link them but then change like he change deidara to having a kekei genkai explosion release if you ask me i think hyuga came from another dojutsu thats not reveal yet beside kakashi untrue words theres no connection madara did not mention them there even mention in the past they probably to leaf from another village ([[Special:Contributions/74.141.196.236|74.141.196.236]] ([[User talk:74.141.196.236|talk]]) 01:32, October 2, 2011 (UTC))
 
:Kakashi said the Uchiha were '''''thought''''' to be offspring of the Hyūga, it was never said that they were confirmed as such. And what others said before still stands, there are ways the Uchiha could be off-spring of the Hyūga. They could have branched from the older son's line before that line became known as Uchiha, for example. Deidara having kekkei genkai in no way contradicts anything ever said about him either when you actually put some thought in it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:51, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
kakashi said himself these are rumors people probably thought cause see uchia bad hyuga and thought uchia was hyuga offspring this is nothing but a rumor they have never mention with uchia senju i think you guys are just holding to this cause kakashi said it face facts that is not true we have more than enough information to prove its not ([[Special:Contributions/74.141.196.236|74.141.196.236]] ([[User talk:74.141.196.236|talk]]) 01:56, October 2, 2011 (UTC))
 
:Evidence such as?--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 02:02, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 
::Like I said, nothing said so far invalidates people thinking that Uchiha are descended from the Hyūga, you're not grasping that. And absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, so there's still the possibility of a connection between those two clans. We cover information from all points in the series, so if at one point that was said, we cover it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:06, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
a rumor is evidence you take kakashi words you guys just want a connection between but the connection only is senju uchia rinnegan only mada does not even mention them they could have come from another village before going to leaf my side still stands i see your points but theres not gonna be a connection rumors are always lies they could have byakugan with rinnegan ([[Special:Contributions/74.141.196.236|74.141.196.236]] ([[User talk:74.141.196.236|talk]]) 02:14, October 2, 2011 (UTC))
 
 
You're still not getting it. Let me put it this way: nothing said so far in the entire manga proves that the Uchiha aren't and weren't ever related to the Hyūga, that says they're not related beyond any argumentation. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:22, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== controlling the the tailed beasts ==
 
 
is it just madara or any uchiha can control the tailed beasts or at least the kyuubi? --[[Special:Contributions/94.183.158.46|94.183.158.46]] ([[User talk:94.183.158.46|talk]]) 19:50, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
..........anyone???
 
 
The relationship between sharingan and tailed beasts still seems to me quite obscure. It seems that Sasuke can somehow supress the ninetails chakra in naruto. It also seems that Madara needed the mangekyo if not the eternal mangekyo sharingan to control de nine tails. And it is also unclear if he could summon it with the summoning jutsu. Madara also tells that the reason the uchiha became feared and segregated in konoha was because of the power to control the tailed beasts. Maybe it is simply because thanks to their natural talent with genjutsu they could easily gain control over the beasts as sasuke does with manda???[[User:Neji uchiha|Neji uchiha]] ([[User talk:Neji uchiha|talk]]) 04:00, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Pictures ==
 
 
Does anyone have a picture of the old Uchiha clan from Shippuuden 140 "Fate" that could replace the manga scan? Just asking.
 
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:Look at [[File talk:Founding Uchiha.png#Third Eye|this]]. Thanks. <font color="#0000A0">[[Special:Contributions/SuperN|¥]] [[User:SuperN|S<small>uper</small> N<small>ovice</small>]] [[Special:Random|↔]] [[User talk:SuperN|T<small>alk</small> <sup>2</sup> M<small>e</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/SuperN|¥]]</font> 02:55, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Sasori's Puppets ==
 
 
Shouldn't the two puppets Sasori had that have Sharingan count as deceased members?[[User:Amaterasu789|Amaterasu789]] ([[User talk:Amaterasu789|talk]]) 00:52, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Descendants ==
 
if the uchiha clan were descendants of the older brother, why is their kekeigenkai not the rinnegan? also i didnt know that only a few people the the villiage had the capability to achieve the sharingan, is tha because only one of an uchiha's parents are descended from the older brother? I actually have more questions about the whole clan thing and breeding and descendants and stuff but thinking up all these questions gets annoying. [[User:Dj q-pid|Dj q-pid]] ([[User talk:Dj q-pid|talk]]) 16:17, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:The rinnegan mutated into the sharingan over time. Even the elder brother already had a spiral instead of rings like the Sage had. The capacity to activate the sharingan is likely based on whether or not it got passed down (like you say, only one of the parents may be a descendant in some cases), whether the person has strong enough chakra to (one could genetically have it, but just be too weak), and so on. [[User:ZeroSD|ZeroSD]] ([[User talk:ZeroSD|talk]]) 19:36, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
What about the Hyuga Clan? Shouldn't the byakugan mutate into the sharingan?[[User:Amaterasu789|Amaterasu789]] ([[User talk:Amaterasu789|talk]]) 20:33, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Female Sharingan Users ==
 
hey who deleted the thing about me saying theres no female uchia with Sharingan its true no lie you all no this im putting it back cause its a fact that theres no uchia whos female with sharingan and dont bring in fanon crap or video games cause those are not canon {{unsigned|74.141.196.205}}
 
:We've seen a total of two female Uchiha, neither of which was in a combat situation. How do you know if they didn't have the Sharingan? Even if they didn't, how do you know no female Uchiha has it? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 00:34, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
::Wait 2 O.o --[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 00:36, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
:::Nevermind, I forgot about Uruchi.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 00:45, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
how you dont know those 2 female uchia were not married an the family is there proof that they were born in the family im putting it back cause you guys cant find evidence that they were blood uchia which is how you get sharingan {{unsigned|74.141.196.205}}
 
:In any case, unless it was stated by Kishimoto that women cannot/ do not wield the dōjutsu, it's considered junk trivia.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 01:13, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
wow so you have know proof that they were not married into the family the sharingan has to be awaken unlike the byakugan so if they did not activate they dont have so tell me how you know have it then or uchia by blood then cause you dont but you know i will just theres currently no living female uchia alive yet cause its a fact in you know it so its going there {{unsigned|74.141.196.205}}
 
 
why delete my thing its all true madara in his brother were the only ones with enternal there has never been an female uchia with Mangekyō Sharingan or Enternal Mangekyō Sharingan and thats true no female uchia has been mention to have and no female uchia is alive im putting it back do not delete its true thank you {{unsigned|74.141.196.205}}
 
 
If we included every trivia point like this, we'd have so much information we could split it all in a separate article. Most of those are coincidences and don't add anything to the article. Do not put it back. And only Madara (and now Sasuke) are the ones with Eternal Mangekyō. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:36, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
people need to know that theres has never been an female uchia with Mangekyō Sharingan or Enternal Mangekyō Sharingan if that you guys did not trivia full than why have it any way in whats so special about those trivias oh an yeah im putting it back cause its true in fact and damn how i forget sasuke has EMS {{unsigned|74.141.196.205}}
 
 
Please sign your posts, just put <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your post. No female with the Mangekyō because very few people ever got it. It's like pointing out that there has been no female with the Rinnegan, or no male with Boil Release. Pointless. The fact no female has it can quickly be understood by reading the infobox, so no point in actually spelling that out. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:47, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
:It's just odd to me that people wouldn't be able to come to that realisation from reading the article or drawing their own conclusions the way you have.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 01:48, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
::I would once again like to point out that there is zero evidence of no woman ever having activated the Sharingan, the Mangekyō Sharingan, and/or the eternal Mangekyō Sharingan. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 10:41, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== are you gonna list rinnegan ==
 
 
are you guys gonna list rinnegan has there kekei genkai ([[Special:Contributions/74.141.196.236|74.141.196.236]] ([[User talk:74.141.196.236|talk]]) 19:12, October 19, 2011 (UTC))
 
:No. One of them awakened it, and we don't know how or why. They weren't known for Rinnegan like the Senju were known for Hashirama's Wood Release. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:40, October 19, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
It has been pretty much hinted and stated by Kabuto and Madara that in the Uchiha clan only a EMS user can awaken it, so once Sasuke awakens it you should put it in there. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 07:23, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
We also don't know how or why or if Hashirama had to awaken the Wood Release. So whatever Kekkei Genkai that a clan member has should be listed in the Clan page even if its a exclusive for one member. So Sasuke's blaze release and The Rinnegan should be added to the Uchiha page, and the Rinnegan should be added to the Uzumaki page. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 07:36, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
I added the Rinnegan since it has Shown up in at least one member of the clan, now a section needs to be made for it more specifically. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 07:43, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
:And I removed it since we don't know exactly how he got it or even if other clan members would be able to do the same. His and Nagato's case are basically the same. Something like that warrants input from other editors at the least.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 11:35, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Yeah your right, I cold of sworn I removed it myself or maybe that was just on the Uzumaki Page I removed it after I added it? Until ShounenSuki gets the raw and confirms things this cannot be confirmed 100% it self. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 18:57, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
" would be able to do the same." That argument is invalid, as we don't know if other clan members can use Wood Release in the Senju clan, or if other clan members can use Blaze Release in the Uchiha clan. So you either take away wood release and blaze release off of the clan pages, or you add Rinnegan to the clan pages. Its a conflict of general agreement and why some of you on here are being bias to the fact. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 19:01, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Wood Release is only listed in the Senju clan article because their leader was highly famed for the kekkei genkai and because that's part of their namesake. So far, everything the Uchiha have done roots back to the Sharingan. Think of it as Blaze Release being to MS what MS is to Sharingan. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:02, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
That would be incorrect until Databook info is made supporting that, the only thing it has been hinted to be is an ability of Sasuke's left Mangekyo eye I think it was, nobody elses. Sasuke has Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Kagutsuchi because of of Itachi sealing Amaterasu the technique itself in his eye. Giving him 3 techniques instead of 2, there for it is not a clan Kekkei Genkai, but a Individual Kekkei Genkei. Which means you cannot list that on the clan page the same way you can't list the Mangekyo techniques on the clan page or Shikotsumyaku on the Kaguya clan page since it was said he was the only on to have the ability in his clan from what I remember which is why Orochimaru wanted his body, and also it is not the same difference as the Sharingan to the Mangekyo Sharingan. It is simply a technique given to him by his Mangekyo. But this is up for debate so ShounenSuki and the other admins need to read this and help decide on it. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 03:07, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
@ItachiWasAHero No, no, no. Sasuke doesn't have Tsukoyomi, Amaterasu because of Itachi. Itachi only sealed Amaterasu into his eye for a one-time use against Madara. He awakened his Mangekyo upon learning the truth behind Itachi. And Kagutsuchi is just the shape manipulation of Amaterasu (Blaze Release) It is not a separate technique granted by his Mangekyo. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 03:30, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
First off I never said he got Tsukuyomi from Itachi, only Amaterasu. Secondly C states clearly it must be his 1 eye's own ability. BLAZE RELEASE is granted by his Mangekyo, making it EXCLUSIVE to him, NO OTHER MANGEKYO USER HAS BEEN SHOWN OR STATED to be able to use it. He sealed the TECHNIQUE AMATERASU IN Sasuke's eye. It may have been for that one time use, but who's to say it did not trigger an awakening of the technique in his Mangekyo, there is no proof to deny that, and in fact more hints to prove it. Kagutsuchi IS the BLAZE RELEASE. everything hints to that and until I am proven wrong I won't believe otherwise. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 03:51, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
First off, stop using all caps. It's the internet equivalent of yelling.
 
 
And you're incapable of proving what you're saying. Itachi did not give Sasuke Amaterasu. If you remember, Itachi's Mangekyo appeared in Sasuke's eye and used Amaterasu. If it had been Sasuke's Mangekyo that activated to use it on Tobi, what you're saying might be true.
 
 
It's not that hard to believe that Sasuke and Itachi just have the same Mangekyo abilities. As we've seen, their skill with their abilities is different entirely, along with the eye used for Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu. Itachi's Tsukiyomi was far above Sasuke's, while Sasuke's Amaterasu was far above Itachi's, hence Blaze Release.
 
 
There is no reason to believe that Blaze Release is an ability granted by his Mangekyo Sharingan. And to be honest, we don't have to prove that it isn't. You have to prove that it is, which you have not done yet. [[User:Ryne 91|Ryne 91]] ([[User talk:Ryne 91|talk]]) 04:29, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Show me another Uchiha who can use blaze release YOU CAN'T, but I can show you 6 Uchiha who can use the Mangekyo Sharingan and 2 who can use the Eternal Mangekyo, also I can point out many more who have the normal Sharingan. Blaze release has not been stated to be used or seen being used by ANY other Uchiha, Itachi never used it. Sasuke on the other hand closes one eye when using it, the opposite eye of the one C says it originates from. All hints by actions and statements are only proving it to be Sasuke exclusive. I don't care if I am using the equivalent of yelling, you people simply aren't understanding the point I am trying to get across. And the clan is NOT known for Blaze Release. It is known for fire techniques demon windmill shuriken techniques, genjutu, and the Sharingan, NOT blaze release. So why is it on the Clan Page? Unless you people want to stop beingf biased and put the rinnegan on the uchiha page and on the uzumaki page. think of what I typed here. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 04:38, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Be civil. There is no excuse for being discourteous in this situation.
 
 
Did you know that if I went to the scientific community and told them that my name was on the back of Pluto, they wouldn't believe me unless I gave them proof? Hints, suggestions, and possibilities wouldn't convince them, and it won't convince any of us in this case.
 
 
All you've proven is that Sasuke has more control over Amaterasu than Itachi did, which was pretty much common knowledge. As far as I can gather, Blaze Release is just manipulation of Amaterasu, thus it is directly related to the Mangekyo Sharingan while not actually being an ability specific to a single person.
 
 
And before you try to claim that only Itachi can use it, let me ask you a question. Have you see any of Madara's Mangekyo abilities other than Susanoo? Have you seen any of Izuna's Mangekyo abilities? Can you, with absolute certainty, say that Shisui only had one Mangekyo ability? Can you, with absolute certainty, say that Kakashi's Mangekyo is only capable of Kamui?
 
 
Until we know all of those answers, it is speculation to say that Blaze Release isn't an Uchiha clan Kekkei Genkai.
 
 
And before you bring up the Rinnegan again, let me remind you that Madara is not a typical Uchiha, especially if he has Hashirama's cells like Tobi claimed, and Nagato's Rinnegan was said to be given to him by Tobi. Until Kishimoto reveals how both characters obtained their Rinnegan, it would be speculation to say that it is the kekkei genkai of either clan. [[User:Ryne 91|Ryne 91]] ([[User talk:Ryne 91|talk]]) 04:57, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Fire Release, and the Uchiha. ==
 
 
Fire Release should be added to all Uchiha. As Tsunade backed up the statement that ALL Uchiha have fire release in chapter 562, when saying since Madara is an Uchiha, they need a way to counter his fire release jutsu. So Shisui, Kagami, Mikoto, ALL of them should have fire release added to their page's. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 14:06, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:Mikoto? You don't even know anything of her origin and you're ready to decree that Fire Release be added to her infobox... Anyway, I think simple notations are enough in the relevant articles (Fire Release, Uchiha clan etc) and though I wouldn't say no to having it noted in the character's articles. It's a somewhat tedious(?) topic but this does seem like a case similar to the [[Hydrification Technique]] and the [[Hōzuki]] but it seems problematic because fire release is more "general"--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 14:17, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
How is this problematic? Mikoto is a Jonin. Tsunade, the manga, and the databooks all have stated all Uchiha have to use a fire release technique to be even Genin and to be adults. Therefor all Uchiha who have been even a genin in their life time has fire release, I am not making things up I am simply going by the facts given here through the manga and databooks. Also nobody else has been seen or heard of using the Hydrification technique, it is also labeled a HIDEN technique, which means it is only known and taught to CLAN MEMBERS of a certain clan, which means only the HOZUKI clan knows it. Btw I am not shouting, the capitalize words are simply bold to make it more clear so to say [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 14:27, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
To me, it seems that Fire Release is characteristic of the Uchiha in the same way red hair is characteristic of the Uzumako. Characteristic, but not a rule. Nothing justifies simply adding Fire Release to all Uchiha. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:11, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
So, the fact that Mikoto probably married into the family has never crossed your mind? Shouting or not doesn't really concern me but just so you know, the wikia has a '''bold''' function. I agree with Omni, it's not like the information is lost on the wikia, it's mentioned in all the relevant area and referenced as well.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 15:17, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:It has '''never''' been said that the Uchiha needed to know Fire Release before being able to become genin. That would be rather cruel, seeing how elemental techniques are all chūnin-level and up. Learning Fire Release was a rite of passage; it marked someone as an adult, rather than a child. There are still plenty of possibilities for an Uchiha not to have learnt Fire Release, though; be it out of rebelliousness or physical inadequacy, not to mention those Uchiha who were simply civilians.
 
:And as Cerez365 said, Mikoto could easily have been from outside the clan. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 15:39, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Didn't we go over not using this as a general talk page for articles that already exist? :? [[User talk:Simant|S<small>im</small>A<small>nt</small>]] 18:20, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Moving discussion.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 12:18, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
I doubt she is from outside the clan, and I didn't see this article anywhere else. [[Special:Contributions/72.66.90.246|72.66.90.246]] ([[User talk:72.66.90.246|talk]]) 21:32, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
@Above That's because it hasn't been stated. We don't know if she's from the clan because she's a woman, hence her last name changed (duh). It was mentioned because it was foolish to assume she was a part of the clan and add Fire Release to her natures based on that. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 21:36, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
It is foolish to assume she is not from the clan too. This is another case where databook and manga evidence needs to be used and found. Which, by the way you above me will not find any to support what you said either. [[Special:Contributions/72.66.90.246|72.66.90.246]] ([[User talk:72.66.90.246|talk]]) 04:44, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Not really. I never assumed that she was or wasn't an Uchiha. The foolish thing to do here '''is''' to assume that she is an Uchiha and thus she can use Fire Release. I don't need to find evidence against in this case because there is none to find, thus saying she has it is speculation. This is a question about her having something that she was never stated or shown to have and an assumption that because she is in a clan (not necessarily ''from'' it) that she possesses a certain nature. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 05:34, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
:No, we're to all assume that people within Naruto only marry within their clans when only one person has been shown to do so and another clan ''assumed'' to do so as well as far as I can remember.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 12:18, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
We dont know if Uchiha breeded between themselves for generations ... theres no evidence that Mikoto is an Uchiha by blood.
 
By your logic Minato must be an Uzumaki as well because his wife and son are named so, and because he can use some sealing techniques of the clan.
 
So even if Mikoto is Uchiha, its not a must for her to have a fire release since it looks like she was more of a housewoman and this coming of age thing was more of a boy becoming a man.
 
And also even if she is not Uchiha by blood, thats not an evidence for her not to have fire release and fireball technique either, since users outside of the clan were seen using it ... although it was only in anime
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:22, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
@Elveonora I guess you didn't notice that Cerez was being sarcastic. :) [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 19:22, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
You people really aren't that sharp are you. [[Special:Contributions/72.66.90.246|72.66.90.246]] ([[User talk:72.66.90.246|talk]]) 19:31, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Actually, I'd say that most of the regulars here are quite sharp. However, unlike you, we don't feel the need to assume things to be true when no evidence exists. We don't know if she is a native clan member, and if that is uncertain, there is no reason to add Fire Release to her infobox. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 19:41, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
That's the most laughable statement i've heard in a while... Anyway, Skitts, please to stop responding to him. This is a regular thing for him that will turn out to be nothing but a total waste of your time when there are [http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_liwvb3yfZp1qdgu7s.jpg vandals afoot].--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 19:52, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Ah, didn't realize he did this often. Nice picture. xD [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 19:54, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Member article protection ==
 
 
Given that (for now) the articles for these members are "complete" I'm putting in a petition for the protection on the articles be upped a little more. Because of the whole Tobi thing, vandals feel compelled to come an interject their opinions in them. Some of the articles just have a string of the same types of revisions being undone.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 15:29, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I'm not a vandal. I'm not making such edit and that's why I'm discussing it.
 
You know ...
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:44, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
:[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Izuna_Uchiha?diff=prev&oldid=616166 Wasn't] [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Izuna_Uchiha?diff=next&oldid=616169 referring] [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kagami_Uchiha?diff=616653&oldid=616075 to] you though friend. If I were I would have spoken to you directly.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 15:50, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I see. This is not "who Tobi is" speculation on my side. Just I find it hard to believe him not being an Uchiha. I know Itachi is a liar and all, but he said there's a 2nd Uchiha survivor and since he lied it was Madara, it must be Tobi. All the mastery, power, knowledge of his and he even has a fan similar to one that Madara used and Uchiha Crest on his clothes. --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:57, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Izanagi and Izanami ==
 
 
Should not we add into infobox of each "Uchiha Clan" I thought once were clan techniques affiliated to the clans --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:29, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
:You mean state that each Uchiha can use it or have it show up in the clan's infobox? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:39, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
"Uchiha Clan" in infobox of each technique, or all Sharingan unique powers in Uchiha Clan infobox.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:14, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
:That's not done for techniques that stem from kekkei genkai only hiden ones. They're shown on the kekkei genkai's article (hence the eye) beside the techniques.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:29, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Oh, I see. Just thought it should be treated as "Uchiha techniques" since apparently everyone can use it unlike MS techniques and maybe my memory is wrong, but I thought once the clan affiliation was being listed in infobox--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:20, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Uchiha clan in movies ==
 
 
Hey, I was just wondering, it says that Uchiha also came in the movies. Does it mean that the entire Uchiha clan came in the movies or just Sasuke uchiha?
 
~NOTASTAFF
 
:I'm assuming it's just [a] member(s). I don't remember seeing anyone's entire clan in any movie.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:27, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Ironic ==
 
 
That Tobi's jutsu, Uchiha Flame Battle Encampment, is considered an Uchiha technique, but he is not currently classified as an Uchiha. Say what you want, but there is '''more''' evidence that suggests he is a member of the clan than not. The only thing that discriminates him from being a member is that he is not who he claimed to be, despite never mentioning the name "Madara", to our knowledge, to Itachi at all.
 
 
Though, I guess I should just be patient since his identity is supposedly going to be revealed within the coming weeks. --[[User:Uchiha Suraku|Uchiha Suraku]] ([[User talk:Uchiha Suraku|talk]]) 05:52, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:The latter would be preferred. It's marked an Uchiha technique because of its name, nothing more.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:25, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
You never know. He might be an Uchiha, and if so, he's more than likely is [[Kagami]]. --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 15:17, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
@Cerez So non-Uchiha can use their techniques now? A Sharingan or the standard Fireball technique are exceptions as the former can be transplanted and the latter is not exclusive to the Uchiha, but this jutsu has the damn clan name in the technique name. But evidently he isn't an Uchiha, just using Uchiha abilities, wearing their clothes, and knows practically everything there is to know about the clan.
 
 
Just pointing out how outrageous and absurd this sounds. Good day. --[[User:Uchiha Suraku|Uchiha Suraku]] ([[User talk:Uchiha Suraku|talk]]) 17:45, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:Not really outrageous. It's possible. --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 17:52, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
At what point exactly have you seen me nor anyone else here say he's not an Uchiha? It's a technique, which is not known to be hiden or no known prerequisites or anything like that, of course someone who wanted people to think he's part of the clan could copy it, just as easily as he'd learn how to use a gunbai to further his story. Just as easily as he could be an Uchiha. Kishimoto himself said that we'll known in a few weeks who Tobi is, stop beating this dead horse and wait for it to be buried. Hopefully you won't die from ignorance by then yes? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:05, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
By not stating he's an Uchiha on this wikia. You don't have to directly say "Tobi isn't an Uchiha" because your actions (or lack thereof) speak louder than if you said he wasn't a member. But your argument that the pile of evidence and facts don't warrant him to be considered an Uchiha is a bunch of BS, and the only reason you refuse to make the change is because of laziness, or more likely, your own ignorance and bias. You can come up with all of these explanations all you want, but it's all just denial and your own opinions leaking out. The man isn't the original Madara Uchiha, fine. That's been established and any simple-minded dimwit that follows the manga can deduce that. However, had he never identified himself as the clan leader period, his actions and knowledge alone are still more than enough to hold the last name of Uchiha. If you take away a person's name, what makes them who they are? Their blood/DNA? Tobi can use Izanagi. The knowledge of the history of the clan and its members? Tobi has great knowledge of the history of Madara and the clan's history. Clothes? I've already addressed that. Abilities? That was my initial point. Attitude? He holds the clan in high regards and wants to use Sasuke to acknowledge it. Appearance? From what's been shown, he sure looks like an Uchiha.
 
 
Just because he isn't the original Madara Uchiha doesn't mean he isn't an Uchiha at all. That's all you've got that leads to him not being a clan member, and everything I just brought up outweighs that fact. --[[User:Uchiha Suraku|Uchiha Suraku]] ([[User talk:Uchiha Suraku|talk]]) 19:53, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:All the things you said are all speculation. It's not proven yet that Tobi is an Uchiha. Why haven't we added to his article that he's an Uchiha? 'Cause it's not proven he is one yet. Till Naruto takes off that mask, we can't till who's Tobi. And please, language. Why you ask? 'Cause of the "BS". --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 20:01, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
No, none of the aforementioned points are speculation at all. All pure, cold, hard facts. Itachi himself, who has a 5 in intelligence in the databook, concluded that Tobi was an Uchiha (NOT yet Madara). So by saying he isn't, you're not only calling Tobi a liar, but Itachi as well. --[[User:Uchiha Suraku|Uchiha Suraku]] ([[User talk:Uchiha Suraku|talk]]) 20:09, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:Tobi lied when he said he's Madara Uchiha. Itachi never said Tobi's an Uchiha. He only referred to him as Madara, in which he was mistaken. And the stats in the databooks aren't accurate about the character themselves, even if Kishi published them himself. --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 20:13, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
See, THAT's speculation. How do you know Tobi is not Madara at all? You don't, so you're theorizing. Itachi said he was Madara, who is an Uchiha, and prior to that, he said this after Tobi questioned him, "...and even look at the secret stone inside Nakano Sanctuary. Only the Uchiha know that place." To which Tobi replied "...You probably know that I'm an Uchiha..." Itachi heavily implied he was an Uchiha, and Tobi just confirmed it. That's practically the exact same thing as Itachi shouting "YOU ARE AN UCHIHA!" --[[User:Uchiha Suraku|Uchiha Suraku]] ([[User talk:Uchiha Suraku|talk]]) 20:23, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
From what I see, you're an idiot. Tobi's not Madara Uchiha. Why you ask? 'Cause the real Madara Uchiha is an eternal zombie with his own free will right now. And what assures you Tobi wasn't lying when he met Itachi? Itachi kept referring to him as Madara several times, most noticeable when he was present with Nagato and Naruto in the war. --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 20:29, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Being open-minded =/= being an idiot. Just because you only see the black and white of situations doesn't mean everyone has to. I could argue that Tobi could very well be a form of Madara, but that would be off topic as that's not what I'm trying to discuss. You just completely disregarded my second point, the main point of this topic, and only addressed about Madara, so I'm choosing to disregard you and my argument still stands. --[[User:Uchiha Suraku|Uchiha Suraku]] ([[User talk:Uchiha Suraku|talk]]) 20:35, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
'''Sighs''' If your main point's that Tobi's an Uchiha, then I only have this: If you think that what crawls is a bird and what flies is a reptile, I can't stop you. --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 20:39, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
@X29, that really wasn't an intelligent reply. It's 99% obvious he is an Uchiha, him taking the mask off won't change anything, w have already seen some of his face, it alone doesn't matter. Name is important. Everything suggests him being one, having an Uchiha technique already added more proof to already obvious thing--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:36, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:Gimme proof that Jutsu belongs to the Uchiha clan, other than it has the name "Uchiha" in it. I ain't gonna lie, I have suspicions on whether he's an Uchiha or not. I'm not saying he is or isn't. Just saying it hasn't been confirmed. --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 21:44, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
There's no direct translation of Uchiha, is there? Not to mention it was translated directly into English, it doesn't mean 'something" flame battle encampment. It even has the same kanji, thus there's no questioning of it not being an Uchiha Clan technique. Speculating on a reason why would a non-Uchiha use Uchiha technique is speculating. There's more proof now than "we will see, no, etc."--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:30, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
So, just 'cause it's got Uchiha in it means it's an Uchiha clan Jutsu? Then, why isn't the Shadow Possession Jutsu called Nara Clan Shadow Possession Jutsu? Or why isn't the Fang Over Fang called Inuzuka Clan Fang Over Fang? --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 22:40, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Read again, there's no meaning of "Uchiha" with such kanji into English. The reason why the techniques weren't called Nara Clan Shadow Possession Technique and Inuzuka Clan Fang Over Fang Technique is simple, it's their signature so everyone knows only they can do that (being hiden) and it would be too long. There's no doubt for it to be an Uchiha technique, if that's a good enough proof for Tobi being one, then that's for the discussion. It's obvious that Kishi is giving a hints--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:00, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
'''Sighs''' I can continue this discussion, but that'd be such a drag. So, the same thing I said to......... Miss Uchiha (The username) will be said to you. If you think that what crawls is a bird and what flies is a reptile, I can't stop you. --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 23:09, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
You don't have anything intelligent to say, that's why your answer is about reptile crap, twice. Give me a reason why would a non-Uchiha related technique have "Uchiha" in the naming with the same kanji--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:15, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Language. And as I said, I could continue this discussion, but it'd be such a drag. Shikamaru once said something about arguments, which I have a different view of. To me, sometimes arguments are things that girls do. --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 23:20, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Enough with this goddamn discussion, we don't know if he's an Uchiha, and he has just as much chance of being one as he has of not being one. Listing him as an Uchiha means he is an Uchiha, not listing him as an Uchiha doesn't strictly mean he's not an Uchiha, it also says he's not revealed as an Uchiha, it leaves the door open for him being one while still being correct with what is known about him. If he is an actual Uchiha by blood when the mask falls, which thank God is soon, because there's only so much of this annihilated horse discussion I can take any more, we will freaking add it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:12, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:Thanks, boss. Hope they get the picture now. --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 02:15, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Yeah, Omni had to explain it better because I couldn't comprehend X29's bird and reptile analogy.
 
Seriously :P I'm sorry that it has angered you, just a convo why there's "Uchiha" in Tobi's barrier technique... well, see ya in 2-3 weeks.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 02:48, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Tobi calls himself an Uchiha in chapter 590. We can't take his word for it? [[User:Racht|<font color="yellowgreen">'''Racht'''</font>]] 00:26, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Since Tobi is going to be revealed soon, the decision was made to wait. But if he turns out to be an Uchiha, I will let Cerez and Omni eat their stubbornness :O--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:57, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
We have very valid reasons not to believe everything Tobi says. While there are several events that we came to know through him giving them exposition, the topic of his own identity was always something he either lied about, or was very private with. And regarding chapter 590, Tobi was already using Madara's identity, even in secret. When Itachi and Sasuke's discussed the massacre before the fight in which Itachi died, Itachi identified the man as Madara. Either Itachi played along with Tobi, or, as is more likely, he was also fooled by Tobi, who himself said he managed to keep secrets from Itachi. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:39, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Don't really think there's anything I'll "eat" from Tobi being an Uchiha, I'll be satisfied knowing I followed the wiki's protocol. If we were to believe any recent cases of Tobi calling himself an Uchiha then we should just remerge his article with Madara's because that's the guise he was under when he said those things.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:23, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Omni, again you know that Tobi didn't introduce himself as Madara to Itachi. Unless you meant that he did to Kisame before meeting Itachi. Also my opinion only, Itachi lied to Sasuke because he wanted him to kill "Madara" and avenge the Uchiha by doing so.
 
That's why he agreed that "Madara" indeed did help to kill the clan as well + the "greatest Uchiha" talk by taking Sasuke's eyes was also to motivate Sasuke to gain power to defeat "Madara" but not that way, because Sasuke originally said that he has his own way etc.
 
@Dear friend Cerez, it's not about instances when he spoke of himself as Madara, it's about:
 
* Uchiha robes
 
* Knowledge about more or less Uchiha related&exclusive stuff from long ago to recent, secret tablet included.
 
* A technique with Uchiha in it
 
* Uchiha Madara-level-like feats and power
 
* Hatred for Konoha
 
* Plant Hashi Clone
 
* Obsession with eyes
 
* His appearance, hair IDENTICAL to Uchiha Madara (during Kisame instance) and possibly face similar to Madara (2nd Kisame instance) unless it indeed was the real Madara the first time there
 
* If it wasn't for the revelation of the real Madara had been dead as has been revived by Edo, thus Tobi being fake... 90% of the fanbase had no doubt about the man being stating who he is.
 
 
Even though we will wait, IMO I think it would be much less speculative to accept him as an Uchiha than to think he might be from some other "x clan" or Ramen Guy or E.T. AND "oh, he still might be Madara's clone or somehow Madara"
 
I disagree, because his dialogue, behavior, style, personality are different from Madara's.
 
 
So if it wasn't for some "protocol" and if I was an admin, I would add and list him as the most probable and least speculative case, the obvious.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:04, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Not worthy a new topic, but doesn't Naruto the movie: Road to Ninja confirm that Tobi is indeed an Uchiha since Menma, after merging with Tobi's "ghost" received one?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:29, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
No. For all we know, he could have an implanted Sharingan and the result would have been the same. This could turn out to be simply another instance of someone displaying the Sharingan due to being under its influence, like Kurama and Manda have been in the past. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:04, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
It's not implanted, "Narubi" actually uses the Sharingan on Naruto, so I wouldn't compare it to a reflection by an influence--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:24, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I'd suggest you stick to the fact that he's called himself an Uchiha. It's a much better basis to work off than that list you provided. Firstly, nowhere on this wiki will you find stuff that is presumed speculation to the level of Tobi's identity. The only thing coming close to that is Tsunade's nature transformation and that had to have a databook entry before it was listed as presumed, I fear that if some of you guys were actually admins the wiki would become overrun with speculation and other needle-maybe I should stop here. Now for la lista:
 
* Robes - so if Guy during this fight goes and puts on armour with the Senju symbol, he's a Senju? Because blood doesn't matter, it's the clothes you wear. Orrr maybe Tobi should've teleported, changed his clothes and come back when it was revealed to him that they knew he wasn't Madara?
 
* What basis are you judging that this stuff is "exclusive"? They're a famous clan with their history well recorded. Also, Tobi and Madara know each other and are/were obviously working together
 
* Hatred for Konoha- ok? [[Unmo Samidare]] also hated Konoha a great deal. You don't seem to understand how hated the five nations are
 
* Again, Tobi and Madara... know each other. How else did he get Hashirama's DNA? Unless you're going to go on to say Hashirama fought two Madaras...
 
* A lot of people covet dōjutsu, Orochimaru was also obsessed with the Sharingan. Also how the fart does that obsession point to him being an Uchiha?
 
* Really? I thought Madara's hair was long... I believe i already brought up the fact that the two probably look alike... possibly
 
I'm not pointing out all these things to say that no, tobi is not an Uchiha, but the fact that I can find so many reasons to counter your suggestions on why he is alone, is reason enough not to add him as such. When you can come up with conclusive proof and say <nowiki><ref>''Naruto'' chapter x, page x</ref></nowiki> says he's an Uchiha (which will come up in the future) and nobody can say nay to it, then by all means he'll be added as such.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:55, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
* One has to have a hell good reason enough to wear clothes with a family's crest on it, you didn't answer the Uchiha in a technique one. Don't tell me Madara taught him that.
 
He didn't need Uchiha clothes to have Minato think he is fighting Madara himself, he didn't need them to convince and deceive Itachi, he didn't need them to prove Onoki "I'm Madara", to a person that had fought the real one.
 
* Tell me how many people have any knowledge of Izuna, I'm yet to see any mention of him by any other person than Madara, Tobi and Itachi.
 
The So6p's tablet is a guarded secret by the clan. We don't know their relationship/connection yet, but according to Kishimoto himself, there's one.
 
I wouldn't reveal my clan's secrets to an Inuzuka.
 
* Tobi is obsessed with destruction of Konoha, even proclaiming how long he had waited for "that moment" and turning Sasuke into a Konoha hater.
 
* Speculation, the real Madara might not even be aware that there's some Hashi plant clone underground or some shit.
 
* "The true power of the Sharingan… this is Madara Uchiha's power!"
 
* I meant that the man (presumed to had been Tobi) that have controlled Yagura had at that time IDENTICAL hair to Uchiha Madara, like copy and paste.
 
* Tobi's ghost possessing Menma in Naruto road to ninja, the latter gaining a Sharingan.
 
Before you say: "movies aren't canon" the concept still apply to manga as it's Kishi's work.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:37, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
* When Tobi left Mountain Graveyard, he was still "Madara" no? I asked whether or not he should've gone home to change his clothes when he was fond out? As for the technique, I could just tell you that it's possible that it's not hidden and Tobi copied it or learnt it some other way, but we all know why Kishimoto made him use it, simple art of troll.
 
* When has the situation called for mention of Izuna, who died before the founding of villages? It's not as though he's obscured, Madara mentioned him to the Kage and no one went "who dat?"
 
* Yes, so secret that Kabuto and Orochimaru had a possible peek at it? Remember that the compound lays abandoned now.
 
* He said all of those things as Madara no? It could have been a farce just as easily as it could be true.
 
* It is true he might not be aware of the plant, but where would Tobi have gotten the DNA from? That'd only lead to even more speculation.
 
* ?
 
* Mmk
 
* What does Menma have to do with any of this? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:11, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Jutsu List ==
 
 
Any objections to adding Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades and Manipulated Shuriken Technique to the jutsu list? The Uchiha are credited with creating them right? [[User:Arrancar79|Arrancar79]] ([[User talk:Arrancar79|talk]]) 16:18, September 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
:bump [[User:Arrancar79|Arrancar79]] ([[User talk:Arrancar79|talk]]) 19:52, September 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Can you find a source that says the Uchiha created it? Because the names are different than what was given in the manga. For the first technique, it says the Sharingan would be required to read the opponent's movements and the latter just sounds like an expert could perform it. But, if there are sources, sure.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:03, September 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
::I was basing it off the page. In the Abilities section it says, "They themselves invented many shuriken move sets which required the use of thin metal wires, one example being the Windmill Triple Blades technique." My guess was that information came from a databook. If there really isn't a source for what's in the article I couldn't say. I don't have the resources to check. [[User:Arrancar79|Arrancar79]] ([[User talk:Arrancar79|talk]]) 00:20, September 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Oh, okay. Well I guess that could be added. Still not sure about the second technique however.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:06, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
Thanks, as far as Manipulated Shuriken Technique I only ask cause it's listed as the parent jutsu and Sasuke was the only one to use it out side of an anime filler. [[User:Arrancar79|Arrancar79]] ([[User talk:Arrancar79|talk]]) 18:09, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Should we also add izanagi and izanami to the Uchiha clan dojutsu list as well? The reason why i ask is because since the sharingan is originated from the uchiha clan
 
then izanagi and izanami should be listed because one needs a sharingan to bring forth these 2 techniques.--[[User:Naruto6paths|Naruto6paths]] ([[User talk:Naruto6paths|talk]]) 15:06, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
:That is for non-Sharingan techniques. Those two are listed in the Sharingan article. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:15, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Stupid Mistake ==
 
I was reverting an anon's vandalism and Firefox deleted the entire page. I'm so sorry and now I can't revert back my edit. Stupid move, I am sorry. Can someone please revert my stupid mistake? --[[User:KiumaruHamachi|KiumaruHamachi]] ([[User talk:KiumaruHamachi|talk]]) 21:23, September 23, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 

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Eyes. Edit

Should something be added to trivia about the eye trenches? Seeing as Madara, Izuna and even their father had them? And it's not just their family who has them. Itachi also has these same trenches, and a few other Uchiha have been shown to have them. Just thought it may be trivia worthy? SusanooUnleashed (talk) 10:05, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Could you define and elaborate on "eye trenches"? --98.101.165.89 (talk) 11:28, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

The deep lines that are under their eyes? SusanooUnleashed (talk) 12:25, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Going through the pics of those you mentioned, only Itachi and Tajima seemed to have had them. Even going through the rest of the named Uchiha, it is those two who seem to have the lines in almost every known occassion. Setsuna Uchiha is the only other one who could have them, based on the only pics I could find of him. The times some of the other characters seem to have details under the eyes appear to be simply artistic decisions to make the character have depth and the face look less flat in certain angles, expressions, etc. But either way, I do not believe there is any evidence to support such an addition to the trivia. --98.101.165.89 (talk) 14:20, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Relatives usually have similar features. It's not really necessary to genetic things like that. If it were a case where there painted them on (like the Akimichi) or chose to wear their hair in a certain style like the (Nara) then yes. But we don't mention that all Yamanaka are blond(e) well Fū's hair was auburn, but you get what I mean.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk)

Dōjutsu Edit

Why can't we add the EMS or Rinnegan to it? Is it because the Rinnegan existed before the Uchiha clan came along in the Sage of the Six Paths? Also I think we should defintely add EMS because it is exclusive to the Uchiha clan just like the regular MS. Banan14kab 02:28, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

EMS is not a natural progression of the eye nor is the Rinnegan. Hence they are not dōjutsu of the clan.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 12:55, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

What Cerez says, if we added Rinnegan as Uchiha KKG then we would also have to add Wood Release too because Senju stuff is required to unlock it and Obito/Madara have it for example--Elveonora (talk) 13:00, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Though it's not a natural progression, if i'm not mistaken, to unlock EMS it is required to integrate a pair of Sharingan with your own. Which still means it is exclusive to the Uchiha. --Questionaredude (talk) 03:52, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Questionaredude. EMS should be included. It's not a natural progression, but a modification of the MS which is still from the clan. Banan14kab 06:18, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

However, should Kakashi get his hands on another Mangekyō Sharingan and integrate it into his own, he'd be able to acquire the EMS- that's what I mean by it's not a natural progression. Anybody could do it. Maybe if the eye had more of a distinction then it could be considered separate and apart from the MS, but the EMS is just an MS you can't go blind using.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 12:04, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

EMS isn't level 3 of Sharingan, it's a cheat, godmode on if you will ;D--Elveonora (talk) 17:50, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

I believe during the series Itachi mentioned that in order to obtain the EMS it is necessary a MS compatible with the owners MS. Until now, i believed that when talking about "compatible" he wanted to say that it has to be a direct bloodline (Brother, Father, etc.) and it has to be both eyes and not just one. Am i wrong here?. Dan.Faulkner (talk) 12:45, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Members Edit

This page needs an update. New Uchiha clan members were introduced in Naruto: Shippuden Episode #338. EternalBeast 09:05, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

It updates by itself but the infoboxes are experiencing problems. —SovanDara18 Talk | Contribs 11:00, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

statues Edit

Not sure where else should I post this... anyway, do you remember those statues shown in the chapter in which Itachi and Danzo talked together? I suppose those were the same as the ones shown on the latest chapter's cover, portrayals of Ashura and Indra, definitely worth of note. EDIT: chapter 590 it is...--Elveonora (talk) 23:31, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Saying what - that Konoha had statues of dieties? It wasn't really associated with the Uchiha per se. It was cool that Itachi decided to walk the path of Asura though.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 23:57, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
Exactly what I was thinking, Cerez. Dat symbolism. Seelentau 愛 08:16, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
@Cerez, may you please add this somewhere? Perhaps to Konohagakure page--Elveonora (talk) 10:50, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
Sure. I think Itachi's trivia would be best? --Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 13:55, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
Why there? The actual objects reside in the village. Something like "statues of those gods reside wherever that is and they have also been shown on chapter cover blah blah"--Elveonora (talk) 17:16, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

ChildrenEdit

We don't really know how many uchiha clan members there were when they died, but does anyone know if there were any children besides Sasuke. Itatchi is one of my favorite characters, but did he really kill children and infants? I s struggle to think Itatchi and Sasuke were the only young members of a clan large enough to stage a coup against the whole village.—This unsigned comment was made by User:Sunblaster (talkcontribs) .

If you asked Cerez, he would tell you that there were no other children besides Sasuke, but we don't know.--Elveonora (talk) 10:23, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
Really ( '-') I don't remember ever having this discussion with you, but yes Sasuke was the only child born in that generation. How do we know you ask? He was the only person not drawn into the coup d'état because he was too young. That is by they said he was innocent. So unless they all thought that the other children who had already awakened their Mangekyō Sharingan were of more use than him, we can safely assume he was the only one. It's not uncommon for there to only be one child born in a generation.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 10:39, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
Danzō said that even the young ones had to die. There definitley were other children besides Sasuke. • Seelentau 愛 12:52, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
Seelentau's right. The only reason Sasuke was spared was because of Itachi's inability to kill his little brother, also Danzō used Sasuke's life as a bait to force Itachi into murdering his own clan.--JOA20 (talk) 13:04, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
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