She clearly says in chapter 164 she turned her chakra into electricity. That IS lightning element. It should be added to her page for real, instead of saying possibly, because even the technique description says she changed her chakra into electricity... which is what Sasuke and Kakashi do for the Chidori and Raikiri. It is NO different than them 18.104.22.168 (talk) 07:15, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
- Talk:Tsunade/Archive 1#Raiton, Talk:Tsunade/Archive 1#Nature Type, Talk:Tsunade/Archive 2#Lightning Release, Talk:Tsunade/Archive 3#lightning release.3F, & Talk:Tsunade/Archive 3#Presumed Nature. Start reading. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 07:21, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that you are referring to Tsunade's lightening release as "presumed" although it was clearly described in the manga that she has a lightening release []. Also, it is described here in wiki [] and your description of this ninjutsu is easily linked to your own description of the lightening release here in wiki [].
You are taking out an obvious power of Tsunade just because it wasn't confirmed in the databook !?
All the new justsu for all characters aren't included nor described in the databooks yet you are not describing it as "presumed".
The manga should have the priority in describing the powers and jutsu for all characters and you should base the information here on the manga first not the databooks.
Also, don't forget that when Tsunade used the Ranshinsho, it was before Kakashi describes how element types work to Naruto. Therefore, it was acceptable in the beginning to not include it in her data, but not anymore.
Please fix Tsunade's data and remove the "presumed" remark.
If you think I'm wrong then please describe to me how is the Ranshinsho different from the Raikiri or Chidori which led you to the concept of Tsunade not having a lightening release?
- I agree with Saint Juste. When she used the jutsu, elemental releases weren't really a big thing then. That was a time when Chidori/Raikiri was still 'visible chakra on their hand' kind of deal. She does say that she changes her chakra into electricity (at least that is what the translations say), which is exactly what lightning release is. Joshbl56 16:09, June 24, 2013 (UTC)
Even if it has a presumed tag, it got listed, which is more than most similar situations get as resolution. Most are either put in the trivia, danced around of stuff, or not mentioned at all. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:14, June 25, 2013 (UTC)
Get Seelentau to look at the kanji and etc of everything. It may be that it simply refers to electricity rather than lightning, in terms of Raiton, which would rest the case once and for all. It'd also perhaps moreso refer to the electrical pulses in ones body in regards to nerves and etc than it is a release. So even if in the case she does turn it into electrical signals, that's not the same as Raiton.--Taynio (talk) 00:20, June 25, 2013 (UTC)
Except not. At first, I didn't support listing her as a user of Lightning Release because her technique was so completely different from all other lightning techniques. Then the Raikage's armour came along, and it worked on pretty the same principle, so I changed my mind. I find it unlikely that the situation will change. It will not be removed to trivia, nor will the tag be removed, because no new information is, or is likely to be available, and perhaps most important at this point, this topic is a beaten dead horse, and every one who has ever taken part of it before is sick and tired of it. The way things are is the compromise between every one of those people who can't stand the topic any more. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:47, June 25, 2013 (UTC)
- so its okay to put presumed by other presumed stuff on this site right? Like with the argument with zetsu?BestKage (talk) 02:15, June 25, 2013 (UTC)BestKage
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- No idea why Droid came in and did that, put the previous image back in place. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 13:35, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
While still a considerable distance from the battlefield, Tsunade quickly recognized her grandfather's chakra, before he said anything telepathically. I think this would at least suggest that she is a sensor-type. Steveo920 September 17, 2013, 16:51
- Was it really his chakra he recognised? Strong chakras in general are easier to perceive. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:02, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
Images of Tsunade attacking Madara
Right now, we have this image for her abilities-section and this for her plot-section. I think using it the other way around would be more reasonable as an image of Tsunade actually destroying Madara's Susanoo seems to be more appropriate to show her abilities, rather than just punching against it. Norleon (talk) 10:34, October 18, 2013 (UTC)
Wood Clone of Madara
Madara only switched with a wood clone to escape sealing. Tsunade hit the real one: this is evidenced by Madara's body regenerating after being hit and paper and ash flying off his body when hit. Wood Clones don't have that effect, they just turn to wood to be used in a counter attack.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 23:50, October 19, 2013 (UTC)
Thats more of an assumption than a fact. They are clones and it has never been stated or proven they can't regenerate. Besides, if Tsunade had hit the real Madara, he would't have had time to switch with a clone as Gaara's sand surrounded him too fast and he would have known right away if Madara switched because he would have had to go through the sand afterwards and Gaara would have felt it. The ground is not applicable as Madara was midair. He switched with the clone before it took the hit and just waited to catch her off-guard. The real one probably would not have been so easy to hit as that. Raikage is faster and he couldn't land a solid hit on Madara and was blocked and Madara was also able to perfectly block Tsunade earlier. The Fox King(The Fox King 20:06, October 20, 2013 (UTC))
- Did Hashirama's wood clones regenerate after being struck by Madara and Obito respectively? Did Yamato's regenerate after being struck by Orochimaru? The manga heavily shows Tsunade hit the real Madara when he fought her fight in Taijutsu.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 20:10, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
She couldn't have as their would not have been time to make a wood clone and it seemed way too easy, as though he took the hit purposely, no guarding attempt or anything. He did absolutely nothing to defend himself. That seems more like a clone and he was just waiting to strike her at the right time. Whats said after the revealation more implies, even in mangastream's version that he switched before rather than after being hit. P.S. lets just have this conversation on here rather than our talk pages. The Fox King(The Fox King 20:14, October 20, 2013 (UTC))