Talk: Third Kazekage

stronger

sasori murder the third kazekage that mean sasori stronger than the third kazekage —This unsigned comment was made by Narusuke55 (talk • contribs) on 23:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC).

No, no it doesn't. It only means Sasori killed the Kazekage. Unless we know exactly what happened during their fight, we cannot say in any way who of the two was stronger. --ShounenSuki ^{(talk | contribs)} 23:11, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Iron Sand

I'm not sure if this was in the manga, but I was just watching the anime episode named after him and in one scene he has winfs made of iron sand and is using them to float.—This unsigned comment was made by 66.65.102.108 (talk • contribs) .

Seperate articles

should we perhaps seperate the articles, so that we have one for the character an one for the puppet, similar to how we have seperated the articles of Sasori and his puppet body. --Gojita (talk) 11:19, January 28, 2011 (UTC)Gojita

I don't think there's enough information on the Sandaime Kazekage for it to warrant a separate page. Majority of the information we have on him is as Sasori's puppet. Scorpion got it's own article because it was used by someone else etc.--Cerez365 (talk) 12:11, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

The Third Shinobi War

I don't think that it lead to the Third Shinobi World War. A war, but not the The Third Shinobi World War. Chiyo states that the Kazekage disappeared ten years prior to Shippuden, which means Sasori would have been roughly twentyfive. And the Third Shinobi World War ended when he was about eighteen (since Kakashi was 13ish when his team destroyed the Kannabi bridge)...Or did Kishimoto just mess up? —This unsigned comment was made by 124.169.169.234 (talk • contribs) .

That's why the article says "...suggested to have sparked...." War is a culmination of small or large events. This just helped.--Cerez₃₆₅™☺ 14:43, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

...But the Kazekage wouldn't have been kidnapped and killed until seven years after the Third Shinobi World War... —This unsigned comment was made by 124.169.169.234 (talk • contribs) .

The Kazekage disappeared about 20 years prior to part II, not ten. You're probably getting this from a mistranslated English source. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:27, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Sasori left Suna "more than twenty years" (二十年以上, nijū nen ijō) prior to Part II, according to Kankurō. The Third Kazekage disappearance had "already been more than ten years ago" (もう十年以上も前, mō jū nen ijō mo mae) according to Chiyo. —ShounenSuki ^{(talk | contribs | translations)} 17:31, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

So they could have happened at the same time. Even so, the way those are worded, it seems to me that there's the implication that Sasori killed the Third years after he left Suna. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:54, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

(Chiyo says Ten years in both the anime and manga ((number 30))) So Sasori left the village when he was about 15, the Third Shinobi World War finished when he was about 18, And he kidnapped/killed the Kazekage when he was about 25. 203.59.18.164 (talk) 07:24, April 18, 2011 (UTC)Woolfy

The Fourth Kazekage was already in office when Sasori was 25. ~SnapperTo 16:22, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well. If Sasori participated in the IIID SWW, he must have left afterwards, right? But if he left the village 16 years prior to series start (20 years prior to part II), then how could he fight in the third war, who started 13 years priot to series start? Seelentau 愛^議 08:02, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

SWWIII ended thirteen years before the start of the series. We don't exactly know when it began. —ShounenSuki ^{(talk | contribs | translations)} 11:12, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

kay. Anyways, is there a source for this: Sunagakure also participated in the war, as it was during this war that Sasori earned fame as Sasori of the Red Sand (赤砂のサソリ, Akasuna no Sasori), due to his ingenious puppets dying the sand red with his enemies' blood. (from here)? Because that could clear up if Sasori himself was using the puppets or someone else. If the latter is right, then Sasori maybe never fought in the war and it would become more logical that he has already left the village when the war started... uh, do you understand what I mean with that? I think I f***ed those lines up... .__. Seelentau 愛^議 14:27, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, I understand you perfectly. The source for that piece of info is the third databook:

Sasori of the Red Sands: The nickname of Sasori, a rare puppet master. It comes from the time of the Shinobi World War, when the puppets he created died the lands of sand red with blood. (赤砂のサソリ●稀代の傀儡師、サソリの異名。"忍界大戦"時、彼の作る傀儡達が、砂の大地を血で赤く染めたことに由来する。)

It is actually rather ambiguous about whether or not he himself used the puppets. It definitely means that, at the least, other people were using his puppets. —ShounenSuki ^{(talk | contribs | translations)} 17:47, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

He was ~1 year old at the time the 2 NWW was held. Then, he left Sunagakure at the age of ~15 and killed the Sandaime Kazekage at the age of ~25. Thus, the only WW he could participate in was the third, when Sasori was 18 years old. But at that time he had already left Sunagakure. That would mean he fought against his own village, huh? I mean, why would Sasori get the nickname, when other people are using his puppets...? Seelentau 愛^議 18:04, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

For puppeteers, their creations tend to be their legacies. Given that timeline, it's probably more logical that it was in fact his puppets that were used just as we've seen throughout the whole series with the Ten Puppet Collection of Chikamatsu and the puppets Kankurō uses.--Cerez₃₆₅™ 18:40, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Again I would like to point out that we only know when SWWIII ended, not when it began. Wars tend to last longer than a year. —ShounenSuki ^{(talk | contribs | translations)} 18:53, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. So Sasori most likely did fight during the third Shinobi World War, though he left the village at the age of 15, so the war ending when he was 18, roughly between 2-7 years before the Kazekage was kidnapped/killed. So it is extremely unlikely that the disappearence led to the Third Shinobi World War. It probably did lead to a war, but none on such an impressive scale as the World Wars, I'm guessing possibly a war between Sunagakure and Iwagakure as they have a history of fighting, though this is just speculation. —This unsigned comment was made by 58.7.200.154 (talk • contribs) .

Magnet Release?

wait, aren't we just speculating he has magnet release? I know the truth's all there, but isn't speculating the number one thing not to do on this?--76.92.243.71 (talk) 23:33, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

What to you think is less speculative: that the Third Kazekage had Magnet Release, even though it wasn't called such at the time, or that there are two different kekkei genkai which allow one to manipulate magnetic forces? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:49, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

"assumptions shouldn't be the way"

Now, how about we remove him as magnet style user and instead of that we add a trivia about the likelihood for his possession of this ability? Because using an excuse that it's improbable for there to be magnetic chakra without this kekkei genkai is an assumption and we may be wrong. After all, we don't list that filler Part I. fat dude as a user, do we? Unless something is sated word by word, we may be wrong and connecting dots "shouldn't be the way"--Elveonora (talk) 15:06, June 22, 2013 (UTC)