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== Image request ==
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Could someone upload a good quality image of Itachi's Susanoo's sword from Chapter 585. His sword appears on the 2nd last page. I was hoping to replace the current anime version as its of his susanoo incorrectly wielding the Sword of Totsuka insted. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 17:36, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:I have the colored volume containing that chapter but I don't know how to save it... If someone wanted to explain how to do that I would gladly do it. I'm using the Japanese E-Book reader to view it if that is needed to be known.--[[User:Narutofox94|Narutofox94]] ([[User talk:Narutofox94|talk]]) 17:40, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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::@Narutofox, make a screenshot of the page and upload it here if you can.--[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg|15px]] [[User:JOA20|'''JOA''']][[User talk:JOA20|''20'']] 17:43, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:::@Narutofox, Most computers have a print screen button somewhere. If you Google the type of computer you have, you can find out what button it is and then be able to get a image of whatevers on you're screen at the time. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 18:08, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:::: I use the snipping tool that came with my computer but I get this error trying to upload it "The title "File:ItachiSwordColoredManga.PNG" has been banned from creation. It matches the following blacklist entry: ^File:[^ ]{15,}\.(jpe?g|png|svg)$" Also the ebook reader refuses to take a screenshot of it from doing CRTL PRTSC.--[[User:Narutofox94|Narutofox94]] ([[User talk:Narutofox94|talk]]) 18:22, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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Snapshot your image with just pressing PRTSC without using CTRL and rename it with something like "ItachiSwordColoredManga.PNG" and that'll work. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 18:30, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:: Again Japan Ebook refuses to let me do that. I know that the wiki only lets PNG files be used so I saved it a PNG file. Also I'm using the Snipping Tool which has been the only way I've been able to capture it but the wiki won't let me upload it.--[[User:Narutofox94|Narutofox94]] ([[User talk:Narutofox94|talk]]) 18:51, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:::You can request that the manga image we had before be restored. It was tankobōn versioned (English?). Sarutobi is right, we have an inacurate depiction of Itachi's sword in the article.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:15, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:::: @''Cerez'' I would gladly add the colored manga version but as I have mentioned before I keep getting a error trying to upload it. Screenshots are also blocked by the Ebook program. If anybody can tell me what that error means so that I can avoid it, I would appreciate it. This was the error btw "The title "File:ItachiSwordColoredManga.PNG" has been banned from creation. It matches the following blacklist entry: ^File:[^ ]{15,}\.(jpe?g|png|svg)$"--[[User:Narutofox94|Narutofox94]] ([[User talk:Narutofox94|talk]]) 20:20, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Don't capitalize the file extension? '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 20:25, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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I finally got it, I just made the file name shorter and it worked. [[:File:ItachiSword.PNG|This is it]]. I don't know how to include it as just a blue word url link. I also can give you guys Itachi's Skeleton Susanoo from the manga as the anime one is bad.--[[User:Narutofox94|Narutofox94]] ([[User talk:Narutofox94|talk]]) 20:32, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:C'est bien. Make the switch.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:35, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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[[:File:ItachiSkeleton.PNG|Here]] is what I think is a good replacement for Itachi's Skeleton Susanoo Too make this easier for people I have voluemes 25, 26, 42, 43, 51, 58, 59, 60, and 61 in digital color.--[[User:Narutofox94|Narutofox94]] ([[User talk:Narutofox94|talk]]) 20:45, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:What should we do? Itachi's Susanoo is colored differently between manga and anime. While the images @Narutodox94 uploaded are digitally colored, they follow Kishimoto's colorings closer than the anime does.--[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg|15px]] [[User:JOA20|'''JOA''']][[User talk:JOA20|''20'']] 21:45, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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::I've asked why we don't just use colored manga images before, and I was told that we only use colored manga images if we have to replace a black and white manga image with it. Otherwise, we'll use anime images. So I think the current image for Itachi's skeletal Susanoo stays, though I would prefer colored manga over anime, it's not up to me. • [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 22:00, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Why do we use anime pictures over colored manga pictures?([[User:Kuroiraikou|Kuroiraikou]] ([[User talk:Kuroiraikou|talk]]) 00:30, October 27, 2014 (UTC))
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::::Do you know anyone with all colored manga issues? • [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 00:43, October 27, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Page format ==
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== Susanoo jutsu's ==
   
I created a [[Susanoo/Test|test page]] to show how it would looks like if the Susanoo was sorted by state instead of character. What do you think? --[[User:Fox616|Fox616]] ([[User talk:Fox616|talk]]) 16:33, September 29, 2012 (UTC)
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So on the Susanoo page, we have a weapon section so i was wondering would it be worth making a section for Jutsu's that Sasanoo utilities and add images like [[:Yasaka Magatama|this]] and [[:Tengai Shinsei|this]]. Thoughts? --[[User:Bio havik|Bio havik]] ([[User talk:Bio havik|talk]]) 06:56, October 27, 2014 (UTC)
   
:I'm not really seeing an issue with how the page looks right now. Also, if you want to create test pages like this, do it in your own userspace, not as subpages of articles (eg [[User:Fox616/Sandbox/Susanoo Test]]) --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:35, September 29, 2012 (UTC)
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== Susanoo with tail beast power ==
   
== Opening 12 ==
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Did sasuke absorb the tail beast in his susanoo permanently or was it temporary to attack naruto?--[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 18:49, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
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:Temporary, all the chakra went into Indra's Arrow--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 10:19, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
Opening 12 updated Sasuke's final Susanoo to its new design, but left it with the same incorrect weaponry it was depicted with in the anime before. Is it worth adding errors only found in an opening to a trivia point, or should this be ignored?--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 02:39, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
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So does susanoo still have the beast within him?, I know he used Indra's Arrow, but before he used that attack he absorb the Tailed beasts chakra into one into susanoo like Gado statue, so could one say that the beast(s) is now trapped(sealed) within susanoo? --[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 14:07, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
:It's an opening, we can't really account for that.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:22, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
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:No, he took just some of their chakra, the beasts are still sealed in chibaku tensei--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 14:08, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 
== new susanoo pic ideas ==
 
 
shouldn't we put pictures of all susanoo versions as the info box pic--[[User:Kmorrison|Kmorrison]] ([[User talk:Kmorrison|talk]]) 17:09, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
:No. That's why we have the galleries. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:30, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Madara's Susanoo ==
 
 
Hello. I saw there are different translations regarding what Madara said about his perfect Susanoo's power. There are ones that make him say it is as strong as the tailed beasts, and others that put Susanoo even stronger than the tailed beasts. Which is correct?--[[Special:Contributions/95.236.178.57|95.236.178.57]] ([[User talk:95.236.178.57|talk]]) 13:14, February 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Correct translation is comparable to tailed beast power--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:19, February 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Kurama/Susanoo Fusion ==
 
 
Can someone please add a cooler version of the Kurama/Susanoo fusion that looks more like a dragon then anything else. The current one tbh sucks. --[[Special:Contributions/209.252.158.250|209.252.158.250]] ([[User talk:209.252.158.250|talk]]) 18:45, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
It's not a fusion, but an armor and feel free to take a shot yourself--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:48, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
The problem is that the pic was removed...soo can someone slap that back together? [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 15:20, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Sasuke's Susanoo color was NOT shown first in the anime ==
 
 
"Itachi and Sasuke's Susanoo are depicted as different colours in the anime than in the manga. This is due to the fact that their Susanoo were illustrated in the anime before being coloured in the manga."
 
 
This is blatantly false. Volume 51, which first showed the color of Sasuke's Susanoo in the manga, was released on April 30, 2010. Shippuuden Episode 214, which first showed the color of his Susanoo in the anime, aired in June 2011. That's almost a full year. Pierrot already knew that his Susanoo canonically has a purple/violet hue, even if they slightly changed the shade to be closer to the traditional purple. [[Special:Contributions/75.183.83.109|75.183.83.109]] ([[User talk:75.183.83.109|talk]]) 05:51, March 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Junk Trivia/Question ==
 
 
I propose that this wiki delete this trivia point, "In Naruto Shippūden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations and Naruto Shippūden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 3, while conjuring his Susanoo's ribcage to defend himself, Sasuke can also conjure his Susanoo's hand to ensnare opponents.". Its junk trivia and all Susanoo users have used the ribcage-arm combo in Ultimate Storm 3 as a part of a attack. If anyone that objects to this just say so but I think its not notable at all. As for my question, why delete the manga image of Itachi's Susanoo Skeleton? The rib cage is different from the anime plus it is worth more of a mention than the above junk trivia I am complaining about. --[[Special:Contributions/67.142.164.27|67.142.164.27]] ([[User talk:67.142.164.27|talk]]) 04:22, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Since no one has objected to it then I am deleting it.--[[Special:Contributions/174.225.194.21|174.225.194.21]] ([[User talk:174.225.194.21|talk]]) 08:32, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Supplementary ==
 
Since Susanoo could be equipped onto a Tailed Beast wouldn't that make it supplementary as well?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 00:46, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:Not sure. It was still being used to attack and defend. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:27, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
But it was used to increase Kurama's offensive and defensive capabilities.[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 02:49, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:That's why it's classified as Offensive and Defensive. [[User:Arrancar79|Arrancar79]] ([[User talk:Arrancar79|talk]]) 03:45, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Let me rephrase that. Susanoo was used to enhance Kurama's capabilities not to attack or defend against Hashirama directly. It's like how the Flying Thunder God Technique is classified as supplemental. Even though it's used for both offense and defense, it isn't used for them directly it just transport the user for offense and defense.[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 03:53, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Classifications come directly from the Databook won't they ?, we will have to stick with given Databook information until a new Databook is released--[[User talk:East Dragons|<font size="4"><span style='color: Red'><font face="David">'''''East Dragons Feast'''</font></span></font>]] 07:09, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
I wouldn't know I've never read the databooks. I thought most of that information was debated among the editors of this wikia to make it as accurate as possible but if it's directly from the databooks I'll end my argument here and now.[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 08:02, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== please, kindly explain to me... ==
 
 
Why do we list [[Susanoo Bow]] and [[Susanoo Sword]] as tools? Those aren't actual tools, just chakra given form just like the very rest of Susanoo, the only tools are [[Totsuka Sword]] and [[Yata Mirror]] ! :-/ we don't list [[Chakra arms]] as tools either, do we?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:18, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Therefore, if they wanted to create any weapon they wanted to, all they would need to do is form the chakra? Those weapons came with people's Susanoo, so we list them as weapons. The weapons Itachi equipped to his own Susanoo simply aren't mentioned there for that exact reason: he equipped them to it.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:49, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Exactly, that doesn't change the fact of the bow and sword being part of the technique made of chakra rather than tools equipped by it. And yes, since it's chakra and we have seen an additional arm forming when needed/desired, it's reasonable to assume those weapons are Sasuke's own choice rather than something predetermined. His Susanoo has a sword, he is a practitioner of kenjutsu, his later form has a bow, later we find he used to be trained in archery as a child. Same goes for Madara, he changes his Susanoo as he pleases, giving it additional weapons and shapes--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:57, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
I agree with elveonora it makes sense that the chakra changes to meet the desires of the user. --[[Special:Contributions/86.98.145.250|86.98.145.250]] ([[User talk:86.98.145.250|talk]]) 11:06, April 22, 2013 (UTC) eastfire
 
 
Anyone else? There is no logic in listing those as tools, I vote for techniques--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:23, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:Is there really any need to have articles for the bow and swords at all? Unlike Yasaka Magatama and Itachi's weapons, none of them have names or backstories and everything we know about them can easily be included in this article. If we need a picture of Itachi's curved blade, we could include that in his gallery as an example of him partially manifesting Susanoo instead of the current ribcage image.--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 20:11, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Well, I would find a removal of them altogether as too brutal of a decision, but more than certainly they aren't tools, we still can somehow justify them as techniques tho--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:19, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Super bump, please don\t ignore this, I find the topic important... it's like people don't even care anymore--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:05, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
:no, they are not techniques since the chakra from the susanoo does the attack, so it is just a part of susanoo that helps with the attack, in other words, is a tool[[Special:Contributions/94.135.128.28|94.135.128.28]] ([[User talk:94.135.128.28|talk]]) 10:41, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Since Susanoo is a chakra and a technique, and the "tools" are just part of it, nothing additionally equipped, that makes them techniques too or as suggested above, should be just merged with main article. You are forgetting that Susanoo aren't characters, they are "avatars" of sorts, extension of the user kinda like chakra arms--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:46, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:This is all just an assumption though. Nothing points to the fact that persons get to choose or envision what weapons their Susanoo use. It could be predetermined based on a lot of things. Sure Sasuke was trained in archery as a child, there's a high chance a lot of people were, they're shinobi after all; still I don't see how this factors into Susanoo very much. That doesn't mean that any of them get to pick choose and refuse with regards to the weapons they wield. As for Madara, I've yet to see him using anything but swords. Granted they've changed forms but that's all they've done. Even though they're "chakra given form" as you say, that doesn't make them any less of tools.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:01, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
How is chakra given form a tool? So are chakra arms tool too? Kunai is a tool, it's an actual thing and they can go and buy it. Perhaps we should also list Naruto's chakra cloak as tool too, it increases his stylishness by hundred percent.
 
As I said, Yata Mirror and Totsuka are tools, it's something Orochimaru was even looking for and Itachi's Susanoo didn't naturally come with. Tho Sasuke's sword and bow aren't, someone can't simply sneak behind and steal it from his Susanoo and use it, it's part of it and a chakra, getting the point?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:48, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== use of Susanoo ==
 
 
in the trivia, there were 3 sources that were used to state that people without Mangekyo were able to use Susanoo (chapters 393/560/577) but after reading them, there wasn't a single mention of that....... was that info in the data book or was that made up by fans.....
 
--[[User:Deathmailrock|Deathmailrock]] ([[User talk:Deathmailrock|talk]]) 00:16, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
:It's not referring to people ''without'' a Mangekyo, it's referring to users of Susanoo using it without having their Mangekyo clearly being active (Itachi when his eyes were blind, Madara when his Rinnegan were the active eye state). [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 01:28, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Sasuke's color ==
 
 
It still doesn't look purple to me, because it isn't. It's not turquoise either. It's Grey-Blue/Silver-Blue ... the best terms for it would be either: Iceberg, Glaucous, Steelblue, Aero or something.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:56, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Policies (or at least some of the chief editors) told me to stick to primary colours. The manga version was described as violet for some time before that rule was enforced. General Awesomo 11:01, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Except it doesn't even slightly resemble any shade of purple or violet, the former maybe from afar, but in-close, it becomes clear that the purple "tint" isn't even there.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:10, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Perhaps listing it as one of those choices could work. But a simple colour to understand, like silver-blue or something. Afterall, Pain's Akatsuki ring was described as purplish-grey through translations of the databook. It's a shame Sasuke's Susanoo is only coloured once in the manga. The manga's version, in my opinion, looks cooler than how it is portrayed in the anime. General Awesomo 11:20, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Also what policies and editors told you "we" stick only to primary colors? What rule? What about describing Kabuto's cloak as "maroon" that's not a primary color either unless I'm mistaken.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:41, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::''"We try to stay away from intonations of colour. Stick to primary/base colours whenever possible"'' - Cerez365 in his summary of his edit to Susanoo's article on 13:03, 26 April 2013. General Awesomo 11:47, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::::Lol'd. Wasn't it you Cerez who came up with the maroon? Just in case... :D--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:56, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::::It was! 05:45, 15 July 2012 of Kabuto Yakushi's article.
 
::::::: #exposed General Awesomo 13:05, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::::: Sorry but I wouldn't want that the color of Sasuke's Susanoo was described blue grey because the picture used in the article. Actually the color of that scan results altered by the photo: in this photo of my volume (also if the quality is not the best) it's possible to see clearly like the color of the Susanoo is violet/purple also in the manga version (even if not a purple so vivid like depicted in the anime): http://i.imgur.com/kMV6HQV.jpg--[[User:JK88|JK88]] ([[User talk:JK88|talk]]) 19:33, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Good that, that indeed looks like it--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:33, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Y'all are ridiculous. When I said that I meant the ridiculous colours that are added like dusty rose, peach almond toast, and hyphenated colours like yes- blue-grey. This isn't a paint shop, Sasuke's Susanoo is purple, albeit a pale shade of it, it is purple, not 50 shades in between blue and grey: purple. What more than that needs to be in the article? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:18, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
::I substituted the picture of "Sasuke's incomplete Susanoo" using another one with a better quality.--[[User:JK88|JK88]] ([[User talk:JK88|talk]]) 12:25, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Pngs are preferred over jpgs, I'm uploaded your png as a new version of the current png. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:37, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Sorry I didn't know it: I will remember this for the future.--[[User:JK88|JK88]] ([[User talk:JK88|talk]]) 18:52, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Naruto's Chakra Influence?==
 
I don't think that Sasuke mastered his Susano'o due to his rival's chakra. Sasuke has never seen Susano'o before fighting Itachi, it was "small" and had no feet. When Sasuke deliver all of his powers to his Susano'o against Kakashi, it is like a brother of Itachi's, both are very similar. But then, Sasuke reaches battlefield and sees Madara's final Susano'o, floating inside it and with a complete body. It is normal that he tries to fight in a similar manner. [[User:MaskedManMadara|MaskedManMadara]] ([[User talk:MaskedManMadara|talk]]) 21:52, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Fixed.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:06, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
:: No 'fixing'. Complete Susano'o, even with Full Body, is ''far'' smaller than what Sasuke is displaying now. Naruto's Version 1 Cloak ''passively'' powers him up, MaskedManMadara and Cerez365. Its no different than with Naruto powering up Kakashi, Hinata, or Team Asuma with his chakra. Oh, and Sasuke hasn't even been paying attention to Madara Uchiha vs Hashirama Senju's rematch, he's been focusign solely on Obito. --[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 22:28, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:::TheUltimate3 has a question? What does Naruto's chakra has to do with Sasuke's Susanoo?--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:37, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::::Start dropping some references for this nonsense you're spouting and then we can talk. You're simply assuming that it has grown in size because everyone else had some sort of boost when actively using their abilities with the cloak. Prove that the sizes are different even though we've apparently already documented that a user can actively change the size of their Susanoo. Had his Susanoo grew and people commented on it like the Hyūga did for example then sure we could add it. Should we also mention that Naruto's chakra is boosting Jūgo's abilities so he can distribute a large amount of natural energy? or mayhaps that it's helping a relic like Hashirama remember the time when he was young? Maybe it's also why Ino's technique range is so far- because you know we can just assume she wasn't able to do that before.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:40, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::: Sasuke's Complete Susano'o was small enough to fit on Aoba's head before Naruto's Version 1 Chakra Cloak. Afterwards, this stage of Susano'o, which isn't anywhere near the size of a Tailed Beast, grows to the size of Naruto's Tailed Beast Mode. We've seen multiple Complete Stage Susanoo be much smaller than a Tailed Beast due to Madara's demonstration of it. And when has ANY Uchiha made a stage of this stage of Susano'o grow to the size of a Tailed Beast? --[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 23:15, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::If I'm not mistaken, I just pointed out the fact that someone pointed out '''and''' referenced the fact that they can change the shape of their Susanoo at will. please see the overview for references. So unless Sasuke was bumping chakras with Naruto back then, your point is moot. Another moot point is comparing them to other Uchiha's forms. No one ever said there was a set size for a person's Susanoo. Susanoo's size varies enough on its own, we don't need to be making such blatant assumptions.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:22, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::I don't think the size of Susanoo has anything to do with Naruto. Also correct me if I'm wrong but I don't even see a chakra shroud around Sasuke when the Susanoo started hitting stuff.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:24, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::::Nah, he does have it. But so does Jūgram and most recently Hashirama whose appeared out of nowhere.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:29, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::: Reread through the reference area. There were no altering of Susano'o's sheer size by Sasuke during that battle, nor actual shape transformation. Complete Stage Susanoo isn't that big on its own too, we've seen countless times that it can fit on Rock Pillars ''Naruto'' chapter 478, pages 08-10 and on Boss Summon heads (like Aoba ''Naruto'' chapter 634, page 10). Why assume Naruto's Version 1 shroud didn't make Sasuke stronger, Cerez when it was clearly established that was the effect? Jutsu becomes larger and stronger with it on.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 23:40, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::: I concur with Cerez and Ultimate. Unless stated otherwise, I don't see how Naruto's chakra has anything to do with Sasuke's Susanoo. Sasuke's Susanoo is still immature, and thus, still prone to developments. This was simply another development. He does it in every major battle he's been in since he gained Susanoo. Not to mention, Tobirama eludes to Sasuke following in Madara's step, as far as skill goes. He makes this note after seeing Sasuke's Susanoo go on the offensive. He would have no purpose of saying that if it was Naruto's chakra doing all the work, as that wouldn't say anything about Sasuke's skill. You can't ever properly reference your material. Most of its is specualtion and personal opinion that you inject into the articles. So unless you have some cold, hard, proof that Naruto's chakra somehow = bigger Susanoo, then it has ''zero'' places on this article. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 01:06, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
::: Other than Susanoo being a ''ninjutsu'' and Naruto's chakra enhancing ninjutsu techniques and other abilities as shown from other people who have received it? If he was doing this ''without'' the cloak, there'd be no debate. But since he HAS it? Complete Stage Susanoo isn't supposed to be this large anyway, its nearly as big as Madara's Final Stage Susano'o (with chakra unstabilized). Sasuke is doing a feat he couldn't have due to Naruto. We have a before and after with it. Its plain as day, I've even cited Sasuke's Susanoo sizes BEFORE this chapter yet you ignore them so you can claim the sheer size of the Complete Stage Susanoo he has now is all his own.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 03:32, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
:: More to the point, this isn't the first time Naruto (or Kurama) enhanced a Mangekyo Sharingan user. Look at Kakashi, his Kamui goes from draining him from warping human sized objects to warping gigantic Tailed Beasts like Gyuki with one go, and even being confident to warp the full Shinju in its multi-kilometer Mature Form with Kamui. Why would Sasuke be ANY different than that?--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 03:48, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
Not sure if Im on SaiyaMan's side, but are you guys saying that Naruto's chakra had no effect on Susnaoo, or on Sasuke? (Despite what you may think) There's a difference. Im all for saying we dont know the extent to which Naruto's chakra ''enhanced'' Sasuke, but we cannot simply say it's effect is null. We have enough evidence to say that it definitely does something. [[File: Senju_Symbol.svg|20px]]'''KotoSenju''' ''('''OldUser:'''JaZZBaND)''-[[user talk: Koto Senju|Talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Koto Senju|Contributions]] 02:28, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
:I am not saying outright that it had 0 effect on Sasuke's Susanoo because to be honest I do not know and that is the point. We can't prove it because it was never stated hence we can't perpetrate it as fact. Should everything that the shinobi have done since then be accredited to Naruto's chakra? Even though we have no basis to say that more than it boosted some attacks before? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:00, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
:: Naruto's cloak has boosted ALL attacks before, not 'some'. Hinata's goes from branch deflecting to Ten-Tails tail tossing, Shikamaru can now restrain the Ten-Tails, Ino can take over Obito without him able to force her out at a speed faster than BM Naruto can move, Choji grows to a far larger size and is able to restrain the Ten-Tails' tail arms, Kakashi can now Kamui Tailed Beast size objects... the increase of power is immense. Sasuke's Susanoo grows from sitting on Aoba's head comfortably to Tailed Beast Size in a Complete Susanoo state. The only thing we can credit for Sasuke is his Susanoo growing legs.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 19:03, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Quick question. Where exactly was it stated that they can "seemingly alter the size of their Susanoo"? Seems a bit too presumptuous. ~ [[File: Senju_Symbol.svg|20px]]'''KotoSenju''' ''('''OldUser:'''JaZZBaND)''-[[user talk: Koto Senju|Talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Koto Senju|Contributions]] 19:08, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Could someone upload a good quality image of Itachi's Susanoo's sword from Chapter 585. His sword appears on the 2nd last page. I was hoping to replace the current anime version as its of his susanoo incorrectly wielding the Sword of Totsuka insted. Thanks in advance. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 17:36, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

I have the colored volume containing that chapter but I don't know how to save it... If someone wanted to explain how to do that I would gladly do it. I'm using the Japanese E-Book reader to view it if that is needed to be known.--Narutofox94 (talk) 17:40, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
@Narutofox, make a screenshot of the page and upload it here if you can.--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna JOA20 17:43, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
@Narutofox, Most computers have a print screen button somewhere. If you Google the type of computer you have, you can find out what button it is and then be able to get a image of whatevers on you're screen at the time. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 18:08, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
I use the snipping tool that came with my computer but I get this error trying to upload it "The title "File:ItachiSwordColoredManga.PNG" has been banned from creation. It matches the following blacklist entry: ^File:[^ ]{15,}\.(jpe?g|png|svg)$" Also the ebook reader refuses to take a screenshot of it from doing CRTL PRTSC.--Narutofox94 (talk) 18:22, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Snapshot your image with just pressing PRTSC without using CTRL and rename it with something like "ItachiSwordColoredManga.PNG" and that'll work. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 18:30, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Again Japan Ebook refuses to let me do that. I know that the wiki only lets PNG files be used so I saved it a PNG file. Also I'm using the Snipping Tool which has been the only way I've been able to capture it but the wiki won't let me upload it.--Narutofox94 (talk) 18:51, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
You can request that the manga image we had before be restored. It was tankobōn versioned (English?). Sarutobi is right, we have an inacurate depiction of Itachi's sword in the article.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 20:15, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
@Cerez I would gladly add the colored manga version but as I have mentioned before I keep getting a error trying to upload it. Screenshots are also blocked by the Ebook program. If anybody can tell me what that error means so that I can avoid it, I would appreciate it. This was the error btw "The title "File:ItachiSwordColoredManga.PNG" has been banned from creation. It matches the following blacklist entry: ^File:[^ ]{15,}\.(jpe?g|png|svg)$"--Narutofox94 (talk) 20:20, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
Don't capitalize the file extension? ~SnapperTo 20:25, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

I finally got it, I just made the file name shorter and it worked. This is it. I don't know how to include it as just a blue word url link. I also can give you guys Itachi's Skeleton Susanoo from the manga as the anime one is bad.--Narutofox94 (talk) 20:32, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

C'est bien. Make the switch.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 20:35, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Here is what I think is a good replacement for Itachi's Skeleton Susanoo Too make this easier for people I have voluemes 25, 26, 42, 43, 51, 58, 59, 60, and 61 in digital color.--Narutofox94 (talk) 20:45, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

What should we do? Itachi's Susanoo is colored differently between manga and anime. While the images @Narutodox94 uploaded are digitally colored, they follow Kishimoto's colorings closer than the anime does.--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna JOA20 21:45, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
I've asked why we don't just use colored manga images before, and I was told that we only use colored manga images if we have to replace a black and white manga image with it. Otherwise, we'll use anime images. So I think the current image for Itachi's skeletal Susanoo stays, though I would prefer colored manga over anime, it's not up to me. • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 22:00, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
Why do we use anime pictures over colored manga pictures?(Kuroiraikou (talk) 00:30, October 27, 2014 (UTC))
Do you know anyone with all colored manga issues? • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 00:43, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Susanoo jutsu's Edit

So on the Susanoo page, we have a weapon section so i was wondering would it be worth making a section for Jutsu's that Sasanoo utilities and add images like this and this. Thoughts? --Bio havik (talk) 06:56, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Susanoo with tail beast power Edit

Did sasuke absorb the tail beast in his susanoo permanently or was it temporary to attack naruto?--Ankhael (talk) 18:49, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Temporary, all the chakra went into Indra's Arrow--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 10:19, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

So does susanoo still have the beast within him?, I know he used Indra's Arrow, but before he used that attack he absorb the Tailed beasts chakra into one into susanoo like Gado statue, so could one say that the beast(s) is now trapped(sealed) within susanoo? --Ankhael (talk) 14:07, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

No, he took just some of their chakra, the beasts are still sealed in chibaku tensei--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 14:08, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
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