Yang vs. Sun
Why is it "Six Red Yang Encampment", not "Six Red Sun Encampment"? Based on Four Red Suns Battle Encampment, shouldn't we rename this page, or that one, so they are both consistent with each other? Yatanogarasu (Talk) 06:53, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- I only ask because I don't want to cause an edit war by changing without first asking. Yatanogarasu (Talk) 06:54, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Because Seenlauntau, our local Japanese translator, got his hands on the RAW and translated it. Never, ever, ever, ever, trust scanalations for proper translations. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
07:00, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Because Seenlauntau, our local Japanese translator, got his hands on the RAW and translated it. Never, ever, ever, ever, trust scanalations for proper translations. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
- No, I mean, both are Yōjin, so why not Sun or Yang for both? Scanlation not counting, why differ in our own translation for these two techniques? Yatanogarasu (Talk) 07:24, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Because kanji have multiple meanings, and this is how this kanji translates. Just because romanji sound the same, do not make them the same meaning. Homophones are rampant in Japanese. Simple as that. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 07:27, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Because kanji have multiple meanings, and this is how this kanji translates. Just because romanji sound the same, do not make them the same meaning. Homophones are rampant in Japanese. Simple as that. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
- Well I know Yō represents both, but how did it occur to us that this kanji means Yang, and not sun, or the other way around for that? Not really arguing, just curious. Yatanogarasu (Talk) 07:39, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- 四赤陽陣 六赤陽陣
- Then I'll argue. Did Seenlauntau actually translate these? Because unless I am more blind than I usually am, they are spelled exactly the same except for the instance of Four and Six. Either one is wrong or both are.--TheUltimate3
(talk) 07:45, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Seenlantau did translate them. Talk:Narutopedia#Chapter 643. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
07:58, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Seenlantau did translate them. Talk:Narutopedia#Chapter 643. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
The thing is, 陽 is the Japanese word for Yang, but as we all know, Yang comprises many things, one of them is sun. If you search for 陽 in the Japanese wikipedia, it redirects you to the Yin-Yang article. That's why I chose Yang over sun as a translation. Furthermore, we have translated 陽 always that way, otherwise we wouldn't have Yang Release, but Light Release. Seelentau 愛議 13:04, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- And my name is Seelentau, dammit :D If you can't spell it, just call me Tau, like the Greek letter :) Seelentau 愛議 13:10, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
Well, lord, its hard to spell >_< From now on, I'll just call him Seel. That's more amusing anyways. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 13:39, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- But "Seel" does not make sense, if it would be "Seele", it could be translated into "soul" but without the e, it would be like "sou". At least "Tau" can be translated into "dew". :DNorleon (talk) 13:58, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- I dun typ gud @ 3am.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 14:06, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- I dun typ gud @ 3am.--TheUltimate3
- Well, thanks for clearing this whole thing up for me. Sorry for being so persistent. And don't feel bad, people spell names wrong, oh how many times do I see my name misspelled, even from government letters. Yatanogarasu (Talk) 16:40, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
The thing is, I think that "sun" makes more sense in these two techniques, because it ties in better as a whole with the lesser technique, Four Violet Flames Battle Encampment. Since they follow pretty much the same naming structure, I believe they should also be translated equally. Following the established format, we would have Four/Six Red Suns Battle Encampment. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:10, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- I agree. I just double-checked with Lord Tangorin and it did come up with sunshine and I know the whole principle behind the Yin-Yang stuff, but sun does follow previous conventions and sounds better.--Cerez365™(talk) 19:25, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Bumping.—This unsigned comment was made by Omnibender (talk • contribs) .
I have a feeling you expect me to say something about this... well, I don't know. First of all, it should be "Battle Encampment". Second, why "sun"? Why not "sunshine" or one of the many other words 陽 can mean? Seelentau 愛議 00:24, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that "Battle Encampment" was 炎陣 (enjin). --TheUltimate3 (talk) 00:30, August 21, 2013 (UTC)