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| − | Considering how the translation for Hagoromo's title was done, wouldn't the name ''Sage of the Six Paths Mode'' be a better option? [[User:Benknightprime|"Let go your earthly tether."]] ([[User talk:Benknightprime|talk]]) 05:01, November 12, 2014 (UTC) |
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| − | :Bump. [[User:Benknightprime|"Let go your earthly tether."]] ([[User talk:Benknightprime|talk]]) 21:52, November 12, 2014 (UTC) |
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| + | == Rename again? == |
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| − | This is what the mode was referred to in the databook. --[[User:OmegaRasengan|OmegaRasengan]] ([[User talk:OmegaRasengan|talk]]) 22:04, November 12, 2014 (UTC) |
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| − | :So it was referred to in English? Okay. [[User:Benknightprime|"Let go your earthly tether."]] ([[User talk:Benknightprime|talk]]) 22:27, November 12, 2014 (UTC) |
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| − | ::No, it wasn't and I'm not entirely sure how to translate the Japanese term. It's either ''Six Paths Sage Mode'' or ''Sage of the Six Paths Mode''. Looking at how Hagoromo himself isn't a user, I'd rather say it's the first option. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:22, November 15, 2014 (UTC) |
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| + | Based on what we got for Boruto chapter 52, I believe Seelentau's rationale for wanting to rename this (check archive 2) got more weight behind it. I think a rename is appropriate. Thoughts? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 19:45, November 20, 2020 (UTC) |
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| − | == Still accessible to Naruto? == |
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| + | I don't really see the point honestly. Six Paths Sage Mode sounds a lot better than Sage of Six Paths Mode, and like the last user in Archive 2 said, it will only cause more confusion, on this site and elsewhere. This issue will become almost as bad as people calling Sasuke's Rinnegan a Sharinnegan, which isn't even a thing. I say just slap it on the page as an alternative name and call it a day rather than arguing over a name due to the order of kanji or it being mentioned a single time. Besides, it could be an oversight on the authors part, similar to inconsistencies within the databook and manga (The Sharingan not being able to tell clones from a real individual within the manga, yet Madara being able to see through Hashirama's Wood Clones, also from the manga.) [[User:Princeharris1993|Princeharris1993]] 21:09, November 20, 2020 (UTC) |
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| − | Okay, one question. After Naruto exhausted all of his chakra in the fight with Sasuke (and lost his dominant arm as well), does he still have access to Six Paths Sage Mode? I mean like, if the Tailed Beasts were to give him chakra, he would be able to use it, right? |
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| + | I agree with Princeharris. Unless I'm missing something about the new chapter. Seel's reasons were clear to me, but as the g.o.a.t Suzaku concluded, we should leave it be because the whole Six Paths thing isnt really clear to begin with and thats the real problem. It's been 4 years since that discussion and we still don't know what the fuck a six paths is, practically speaking. I'm open to any new evidence as to why it ''should'' change, but it already sounds good the way it is and fans know it as that (if they know it at all).--[[User:GunmetalDragon|GunmetalDragon]] ([[User talk:GunmetalDragon|talk]]) 21:39, November 20, 2020 (UTC) |
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| − | [[User:KoPLeaderKiactu|KoPLeaderKiactu]] ([[User talk:KoPLeaderKiactu|talk]]) 08:28, December 14, 2014 (UTC) |
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| + | I agree. In brazilian Wiki Naruto, we do a equivalent correction based on bandai's official translations for portuguese: Modo do Sábio dos Seis Caminhos (english version: Sage of Six Paths Mode). [[User:Lukas Pessoa Dantas|Lukas Pessoa Dantas]] ([[User talk:Lukas Pessoa Dantas|talk]]) 03:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC) |
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| − | :As far as I can gather, he never lost it. In fact he can (apparently) still fly in the movie. Why his form looks different is a question I don't even care about.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:28, December 14, 2014 (UTC) |
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| − | Speaking of which, what does the new appearance of the form look like? I can only find pictures of the updated Nine Tails Chakra Mode. [[User:WolfMaster91|WolfMaster91]] ([[User talk:WolfMaster91|talk]]) 03:36, January 4, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | : As far as I can tell he's only shown using the Nine-Tails Chakra Mode. [[User:Arawn 999|Arawn 999]] ([[User talk:Arawn 999|talk]]) 09:37, January 9, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == Naruto does not combined tailed beast to form the RSM. (Proof) == |
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| − | http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=625003 {{Unsigned|GodlyHades1}} |
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| − | :Looks like someone got way too obsessed with being right. But whatever, this is hardly any proof. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:51, January 17, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Why is the tailed beast chakra removed as a component...new info from the databook or sth? --'''[[User:DARK ZER06 |DARK ZERO]]'''--''[[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]'' 16:15, January 21, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :I...don't know?--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:25, January 21, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::[http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=52141270&postcount=69 This] translation doesn't mention anything about combining tailed beast chakra, just says the power was given to him by Hagoromo. ([[User:Kuroiraikou|Kuroiraikou]] ([[User talk:Kuroiraikou|talk]]) 17:41, January 21, 2015 (UTC)) |
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| − | :::As Seelentau states above, that is hardly any proof. We've seen him use his tailed beasts power in this form. He wouldn't be able to do so otherwise. The transformation came from Hagaromo's power sure, but it without a doubt combining both.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:06, January 22, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::Going over the thread further, several people point out the Original Poster that this that was his fourth attempt to get this acknowledged. Further still, several note that half of those translations ignore blurred texts in scans that state he is in fact combining the chakra.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:11, January 22, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Considering this was stated to have bloomed in him, Hagoromo's power wasn't the only thing which activated it.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 13:24, January 22, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :Essentially, TheUltimateThree is correct, until Naruto is shown to use the other tailed beasts' powers without a single trace of using Six Paths Sage Mode as well, this is not proof. You say the Six Paths Sage Mode does not combine the tailed beast chakra, yet he is never shown to use the other tailed beasts' chakras without this mode. So until he is shown to use those powers in that manner, the wiki will affirm that this mode needing the combination of Hagoromo's, senjutsu and tailed beast chakras to come to form is true. |
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| − | :-- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 00:37, January 23, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::An alternate option to coming to our own conclusions would be just to copy-paste what the databook entry says about this. In fact it still hasn't been added I think. I know Seelentau's Japanese isn't that good to translate entire technique descriptions, but I'm sure it can be found somewhere on fan forums.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 15:11, January 23, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Look at the markings nine magatama and Rinnegan, it's exclusive to those who has all the tail beast chakra and besides how can Naruto use all the tailed beast power without them, he can use sage Art: Lava Release Rasenshuriken and kick Truth-Seeking Ball and it is all part of this mode.--[[User:Naruto uzu6254|Naruto uzu6254]] ([[User talk:Naruto uzu6254|talk]]) 15:20, January 23, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::Naruto doesn't have the Rinnegan. [[User:Arawn 999|Arawn 999]] ([[User talk:Arawn 999|talk]]) 00:03, January 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::He is referring to the Rinnegan marking on Naruto's back, not the actual dōjutsu. You should know what he meant by saying that. -- [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|contribs]]) 00:04, January 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::Ok i'll revert my edits.--[[User:Kuroiraikou|Kuroiraikou]] ([[User talk:Kuroiraikou|talk]]) 09:55, January 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::::U don't have to...already did it... --'''[[User:DARK ZER06 |DARK ZERO]]'''--''[[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]'' 10:26, January 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::::You missed a few, i already did it--[[User:Kuroiraikou|Kuroiraikou]] ([[User talk:Kuroiraikou|talk]]) 10:29, January 24, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == Asura == |
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| − | On chapter 670, Asura uses the same battle avatar as Naruto on this technique. He isn't user of this technique? → <sup>[[File:Hyūga_Symbol.svg|15px|link=]]</sup> [[User:Rafael Uchiha|<font face="Magneto" size="4" color="black">'''Rafael'''</font>]] [[Message Wall:Rafael Uchiha|<font face="MV Boli" size="4" color="Firebrick">'''Uchiha'''</font>]] <sup>[[File:Uchiha_Symbol.svg|12px|link=]]</sup> {{Mod}} 15:13, January 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :People excuse it with "Asura wasn't QB jinch" and so.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 15:49, January 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::The Tailed Beast were given to Asura by Hagoromo, so regardless of how he used them he should be listed as a user of this technique, mainly because of the special multi head conjoined Avatar of Kurama and there were Truth-Seeking Balls around his neck.--[[User:Naruto uzu6254|Naruto uzu6254]] ([[User talk:Naruto uzu6254|talk]]) 16:27, January 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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Rename again?
Based on what we got for Boruto chapter 52, I believe Seelentau's rationale for wanting to rename this (check archive 2) got more weight behind it. I think a rename is appropriate. Thoughts? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:45, November 20, 2020 (UTC)
I don't really see the point honestly. Six Paths Sage Mode sounds a lot better than Sage of Six Paths Mode, and like the last user in Archive 2 said, it will only cause more confusion, on this site and elsewhere. This issue will become almost as bad as people calling Sasuke's Rinnegan a Sharinnegan, which isn't even a thing. I say just slap it on the page as an alternative name and call it a day rather than arguing over a name due to the order of kanji or it being mentioned a single time. Besides, it could be an oversight on the authors part, similar to inconsistencies within the databook and manga (The Sharingan not being able to tell clones from a real individual within the manga, yet Madara being able to see through Hashirama's Wood Clones, also from the manga.) Princeharris1993 21:09, November 20, 2020 (UTC)
I agree with Princeharris. Unless I'm missing something about the new chapter. Seel's reasons were clear to me, but as the g.o.a.t Suzaku concluded, we should leave it be because the whole Six Paths thing isnt really clear to begin with and thats the real problem. It's been 4 years since that discussion and we still don't know what the fuck a six paths is, practically speaking. I'm open to any new evidence as to why it should change, but it already sounds good the way it is and fans know it as that (if they know it at all).--GunmetalDragon (talk) 21:39, November 20, 2020 (UTC)
I agree. In brazilian Wiki Naruto, we do a equivalent correction based on bandai's official translations for portuguese: Modo do Sábio dos Seis Caminhos (english version: Sage of Six Paths Mode). Lukas Pessoa Dantas (talk) 03:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)