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Conflict about the source of chakra

My co-editors, I had edited a section of this page but it was reverted. It is written on this page that Naruto re-entered his Nine-Tails Chakra Mode just before being swallowed by Son Gokū due to the Nine-Tails giving him more chakra, but it is mentioned in neither of the charcters' articles nor in the article about chapter 566. I am going to edit it. If anyone is removing it and if Kurama really gave him its chakra willingly before freeing Son, you should edit the above mentioned articles too. I've already given the links, so it would be easy.Undominanthybrid (talk) 14:08, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Hi friend! I agree with you. I somehow remembered that on chapters. Just remember to use proper redirects by using [[Naruto]] instead of [[Naruto Uzumaki|Naruto]]. $_~ —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 14:17, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Your revision was undone because:

  1. You removed 7083 bytes of necessary information from the article.
  2. The revisions you made were unnecessary nitpicking and confusing in parts.
  3. It's already mentioned that "but resists being eaten by the Four-Tails, now back in Nine-Tails Chakra Mode, as the Nine-Tails opens one eye watching on" What more is necessary than that?
  4. You also made no edit to that section when you did that...--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 14:31, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Hey guys, I am sorry. For me removing information, I think I've found the reason. My computer's down, so I am now using my mobile to check up on the Wikia. Sometimes when I edit pages, if the data is too much for the phone, it won't be able to take in all data. And when I hit the publish button, only whatever that is in the box will come on the page. That's why the information was removed. I realised it only today when I was editing this page. And Cerez, thank you very much for editing this page for me.Undominanthybrid (talk) 16:01, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

My recommendation is you don't edit articles on this site using a phone or iPod as it's slow and I only undo revisions on my iPod. --Speysider (Talk Page) 16:08, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
I also use a mobile to edit but I never faced this problem --Salil Uchiha Symbol (Talk) 17:07, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Long page

This is the second longest page on the entire site. Who ever is adding to this every week needs to practice someself control. -- (talk) 08:39, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for volunteering to clean it up...--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 11:35, September 20, 2012 (UTC)
The inability to filter information is becoming endemic of most articles. I realize it's difficult to determine what will and what won't be important in later chapters (actually, I disagree with myself there; Kishimoto is becoming more predictable as he nears the finale) but there should be some effort to prune older synopses once hindsight is found. Even when the summary is initially written it should be obvious what kinds of information isn't needed: dialogue, characters' thoughts and opinions, plot-minutiae, emotional responses. These are things to put in individual characters' articles, not broad overviews like this. Take the most recent chapter:

Though Chōji tries to console him over his father's death, Shikamaru reminds him and Ino that they are in the middle of a war and must focus on carrying out Shikaku's final strategy. Only Naruto was unaware of Inoichi and Shikaku's deaths with the others' attempt to explain interrupted by the Ten-Tails resuming its attack. Leaping into action, Neji and Hiashi are able to deflect the beast's attack with everyone beginning to praise the Hyūga clan. Hiashi tells Naruto that he must focus in this fight while explaining to him that death is a possibility in war, adding that Shikaku and Inoichi were willingly to die for their children. Neji echoes his uncle's sentiments, referring to his own father's sacrifice, before he, Hiashi, and Hinata state their intent to protect Naruto to their last breath. Meanwhile atop the Ten-Tails, which is slowly resisting their control, Madara and Obito discuss how to proceed with their plan. However, as he is only an reanimated corpse and can not become the Ten-Tails's jinchūriki, Madara needs Obito to sacrifice himself to become a living being once more. Taking advantage of his ancestor's dilemma, and wanting to put the Allied Shinobi Forces in further despair, Obito has the Ten-Tails attack again. As the attacks are being deflected by the Hyūga, Kitsuchi builds his chakra in preparation to use his signature technique. With the beast's hand itself bearing down on the group, Hiashi uses the Eight Trigrams Vacuum Wall Palm to deflect it. The beast then uses a pin-point attack which Hiashi realises they could not deflect in time. As Hinata throws out her arms to protect Naruto, Neji actually intercepts the attack. Naruto calls for the medics, Neji notes that it was already too late and that he will die within minutes. As Hiashi looks on in horror and Hinata cries openly, Naruto questions why a genius from the Hyūga clan would throw away his life for him, and Neji, who notes that he finally understood his father's feelings, states that it was for that exact reason that he did it: because Naruto called him a genius and that he choose to die for those he cares for. With this, the Byakugan sealing juinjutsu on Neji's forehead disappears, confirming his death. Taking delight in Naruto being shocked, Obito mocks him by reminding the youth of his statement that he would not allow his friends to die.

What's there is three times longer than it needs to be.
The longer a purge is put off the more insurmountable a task it becomes. Eventually, this article is going to be longer than Naruto's (which also has a lot of fat to trim). And when the protagonist's article is not the longest a wiki has, there's a serious problem. ~SnapperTo 07:20, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
Like I said before just not in so many words: we just need that one volunteer to get things going. I'll admit that at times, even I have just transposed the summary for the chapter out of laziness, but if the article is purged and a "trend" is set, I find that most of us here, will follow it.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 08:09, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
I attempt to make sections smaller, but my contribution has been limited to character pages and general battle pages. To be perfectly honest I completely spaced that this article actually existed.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 11:17, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
How about putting {{cleanup}} tag? ~ UltimateSupreme 13:45, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it's THAT long... and unless Kishi proves me and others wrong, this appears to be the very final arc, and as Naruto is going to last circa 2 more years, it's length is expected. But yes, that's a pointlessly too much detail put into a summary. For example: "Kabuto increases the army size by reviving the former Akatsuki members, previous jinchūriki, Kage and famous shinobi: Hizashi Hyūga, Dan Katō, Asuma Sarutobi, Hanzō, Chiyo, Kimimaro, Zabuza Momochi, Haku, Gari, Pakura, Chūkichi, Shin and Toroi as they march off to begin the war" Can be cut into: "Kabuto increases the army size by reviving a several groups of Shinobi, as they march off to begin the war" if it gets too tedious, an idea would be to select 4 individuals and each will do 1/4, so I might do from 1.1-1.4--Elveonora (talk) 14:21, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

I forgot about this...
The amount of detail doesn't really become a problem until 1.9 "The Showdown with Tobi". That's approximately where things just become a copy and paste of the chapter summaries. Before that section was started the article was 43,248 bytes. It is presently 126,120 bytes. And that also happens to be about the middle point of the arc; so the first half of the arc makes up 1/3 of the article and the second half of the arc makes up the other 2/3. The math isn't matching up there.
Not that I have any interest in doing anything about it. ~SnapperTo 09:42, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

A thought I have. How does splitting the arc into two pages sound? A second for when the Ten-Tails' revival begins; "Ten-Tails Revival Arc"? --OmegaRasengan (talk)

Becoming Tobi?

I will not change this, but I think that to be a bad name to the section, "The Truth About Tobi/Masked Man" or "The Truth Behind Tobi/Masked Man" will be a best name. --MaskedManMadara (talk) 14:41, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

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