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<span class="warningmessage">QUESTIONS REGARDING TOPICS ALREADY IN THE TALK PAGE OR ITS ARCHIVES <strong>WILL BE REMOVED</strong>, ALONG WITH THE REPLIES TO IT</span>
 
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== Concerning the Mangekyō Sharingan section ==
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== Susanoo flight? ==
   
As I said in the summary of it's edit before: ''"Paragraphs and images—especially his first final Susanoo—were placed in that manner to form some semblance of event order. Topics are being mentioned prior to their descriptions."'' It comes off as a bit jumbled, which is why I tried to re-arrange it the way I did. Concerning the image of Sasuke's final Susanoo, I found it more appropriate to display his first rendition, as it was not only mentioned prior to the the summary of his Eternal Mangekyō, but because there's already a fine example of his Eternal Mangekyō version present in the [[Sasuke Uchiha#Shinobi World War Arc|War Arc]] section.
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At what point in 676 did Sasuke's Susanoo fly? He was clearly jumping with it.--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 20:04, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:And changing direction mid-air? ...--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:50, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:Well, in chapter 677, Sasuke's Susanoo is clearly flying! --[[User:Sir M|Sir M]] ([[User talk:Sir M|talk]]) 16:28, May 21, 2014 (UTC)
   
Lots of quips like that throughout the article, but I was focusing on those present in his Dōjutsu section, as that interests me most... Also, slightly unrelated, but when using the term ''Sannin'', it should be used to describe all three of them, not individually. —[[User:SaiST|'''SaiST''']] <sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px]]「[[User Talk:SaiST|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/SaiST|contrib]]」</sup> 08:56, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
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== Rinnegan inofobox icon==
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It is possible to change a infobox icon of Sasuke's Rinnegan from generic purple one to his own version ? [[User:Mad6|従え]][[User talk:Mad6|!]] 09:26, May 24, 2014 (UTC)
   
:... Er, to clarify: I would simply like to re-instate the format for the Mangekyō Sharingan section as it was in this revision: [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sasuke_Uchiha?oldid=803821] ... Any input, please? —[[User:SaiST|'''SaiST''']] <sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px]]「[[User Talk:SaiST|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/SaiST|contrib]]」</sup> 16:55, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
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== Yata Mirror? ==
::Except here's the thing...we've organized the section in a way that all three techniques have their own ''sub-section'' if you will, displaying the development of each technique...in regards to Sasuke's final Susanoo...it's most complete version of the technique shown so far, which is why it's on display.
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There's never been a mention of it but is that the Yata Mirror in this pic? http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130919130943/naruto/images/b/ba/Sasuke_EMS%27s_Susanoo.png [[User:Arrancar79|Arrancar79]] ([[User talk:Arrancar79|talk]]) 23:35, May 24, 2014 (UTC)
::Also the term Sannin, defines two things...group name and an unofficial rank. [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 17:56, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
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:I believe it was stated somewhere that the shield there is actually a bigger version of the Susanoo's bow weapon, with a shield-like appearance. [[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 23:42, May 24, 2014 (UTC)
   
:::The detail of each technique's development was left intact in my revision. Only the changes affected by the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan were partitioned to it's portion of the section. In my opinion, it comes off more coherent to:
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==Why are we acting like it's not confirmed that Sasuke's Rinnegan allows him to resist Infinite Tsukuyomi?==
:::*Relay the abilities of his Mangekyō Sharingan.
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I just noticed in the artice that it says it maybe the reason he can resist it be but in every single translation I've read it outright states that his Rinnegan is what allows Sasuke and his Susanoo too resist the effects of the Infinite Tsukuyomi.--[[User:Thdyingbreed|Thdyingbreed]] ([[User talk:Thdyingbreed|talk]]) 15:22, May 27, 2014 (UTC)
:::*How they affected him.
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:From the article: ''"Black Zetsu also alluded that Sasuke's Rinnegan may be the reason why he was able resist the influence of the Infinite Tsukuyomi."''--''[[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme</span>]]'' 15:29, May 27, 2014 (UTC)
:::*And how his acquisition of the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan changed '''any''' of that.
 
:::It serves to better distinguish his own eyes' power, from what is changed, or gained from exchanging them for Itachi's... Which is also part of the reason I wish to leave the image of Sasuke's older final Susanoo intact; the other part being that it is so underexposed that many are under the impression that Sasuke's Susanoo didn't gain the ability to conjure up Amaterasu's black flames '''until''' he took Itachi's eyes. It is, ultimately, a very small matter, but it still bugs the heck out of me. :P
 
   
:::And ''"Sannin"'' is never used to identify Jiraiya, Orochimaru, or Tsunade individually. Jiraiya, of course, is referred to as ''"S'''e'''nnin"'', which many fans have mixed up with the term coined for all three of the former teammates for ''years''... —[[User:SaiST|'''SaiST''']] <sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px]]「[[User Talk:SaiST|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/SaiST|contrib]]」</sup> 18:46, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
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The more correct version would be like "Black Zetsu stated that Sasuke's Rinnegan is the reason as why he is able to resist the Infinite Tsukuyomi"
   
Your revision leaves it too far spread to me...and likely most of the other users view it better like it is:
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The one currently suggests we don't know the reason when we do know the reason which is do too his Rinnegan.--[[User:Thdyingbreed|Thdyingbreed]] ([[User talk:Thdyingbreed|talk]]) 13:28, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
:*Denoting the look of the Mangekyo
 
:*Explaning the drawbacks.
 
:*Displaying each technique and their according development.
 
   
Sennin is a translation of Sage, which both Jiraiya and Oro are...there is no confusion in that. And yes it is used to identify them, since it was the term that marked their rise to battle fame as shinobi. [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 23:06, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
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== Sasuke's Rinnegan Color ==
   
: Arguing over the terms used is pointless. The reason he is referred to as "''Sannin''" is because he is one of the three. It doesn't matter if they were ever referred to individually as such, though I recall on numerous occasions him being referred to as "one of the three Sannin". Secondly, your revisions are far too spread. It goes into unnecessary detail about the appearance of the Mangekyō, when only a basic, standard description is needed, which is what we have, followed by how the Mangekyō developed; its drawbacks, the techniques Sasuke developed or learned, and what he can do with them. The current revision is detailed just enough to give us an idea on what he can do with it, without it becoming long winded. We don't need to write a book on Sasuke's Mangekyō, just give readers a general idea on what he can do with it. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 00:19, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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How do we know for sure that red is the color of his sharingan, I mean the official color volume isn't out yet. I mean I know there has been some fans who have been able to give the manga color, but I don't think official. Or is there an official color manga already out that's canon that shows what color his eye is?????--[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 11:48, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
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:The ''Weekly Shōnen Jump'' has released a colored version of chapter #676 which depicts that Sasuke's Rinnegan is red-colored. And it's considered official like chapter #638. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 11:55, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
::Ten Tailed Fox, compared to the current revision, my own possessed approximately 400 less characters. Initially, only around 200 characters were added from my attempted rehaul of the section. The ''"book"'', as you say, was already there; my intention was only to rearrange it's contents to avoid the sporadic mention of abilities, and more coincide with the order of events. With that in mind, I'm curious as to why my summary came off as so long winded to you.
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Oh ok, thanks well I guess this raise more questions about rinnegan. Maybe sasuke has the ultimate form of rinnegan.. --[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 11:59, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
::''"Sannin"'' = ''"Three Nin"''. If you saw any translations depicting any one of them as '''a''' Sannin, or ''"one of the '''three''' Sannin"'', they would be inaccurate. The point of my bringing up ''"S'''e'''nnin"'', which it seems Darksusanoo missed, is that the usage of both terms have been—and are '''still''' being mixed up; which is part of the problem. Jiraiya(and Orochimaru) may be '''a''' Sennin, but he is not '''a''' Sannin. It's a very simple matter, which is why I couldn't help but scratch my head when the correction was reverted. —[[User:SaiST|'''SaiST''']] <sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px]]「[[User Talk:SaiST|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/SaiST|contrib]]」</sup> 03:03, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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Oh yeah what about, shinju beast, kaguya, and Madara's third eye?--[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 12:01, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
::: Oh boy, I can see this is going to be a long one. *sigh* Look, the translations aren't wrong, and you're making a big deal out of something that shouldn't be. There are three Sannin, which indeed means "Three Ninja". Orochimrau, Tsunade, and Jiraiya. Any one of those three are still a Sannin. They have always been referred to as such. When Jiraiya was introduced (I have the Viz, I have read the scanalations, and I'm sure we still have ShonenSuki's translation of the RAW Japanese around here somewhere), he is introduced as one of the "three Sannin". So is Tsunade, at one point in time, and I believe even Orochimaru was referred to as "a Sannin". We won't change the term because it means "Three Ninja". It could mean "Ten-Million Ninja" for all we care. It is the name of a group, as well as the title of its three members. Therefore, they are "Sannin", both collectively and individually. I'll say it again, arguing over a specific term gets us nowhere. It doesn't matter if its grammatically correct or not, that is how the series refers to them, that is how the fans refer to them, and that is how ''we'' refer to them. Its as simple as that. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 04:09, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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@Shak, now you confuse me... was chapter 676 part of the digital volume release of the whole manga or a separate thing? Because if it was the digital volume coloration, then that's not really canon no matter how official. Once the volume cover comes out and it depicts Sasuke's Rinnegan as purple, then that's canon--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:04, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
:::: '''Additionally''': The reason your edit seems long winded to me is that most of it was taking time to describe the Mangekyō Sharingan's shape, which I believe, if I remember the Undo correctly, you called an "atom symbol", which is actually less descriptive and more speculative than what we have now. Also, I'm not disputing the fact that your edit was done to make an improvement, but the way we have it now is fine. It lays it out in a flowing order, which is easy to understand, isn't convoluted, and does exactly what the section is intended to do; describe Sasuke's ability. The phrase, "''If it ain't broken, don't fix it''" comes to mind. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 04:14, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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:Elve-kun. If you read the chapter's article trivia section. You'll understand what I'm saying and I didn't say ''canon''. @Ankhael: Shinju's eye is red according to volume #64 cover. Madara's third eye is also red from the same chapter. For Kaguya's eye, no colored version of it. [[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 12:11, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
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::Latest chapter pretty much confirms that Madara's third eye also is a Rinnegan, therefore so is Kaguya's and Kaguya's presumably the same as Shinju's, so the eye most likely indeed is red, although I still would like a volume cover confirmation :)--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:30, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
Very well. My grammar police badge seethes, but you can consider the Sannin matter dropped. Same with the revision, though I'd just like to say that, along with a few other extraneous details, I '''did''' omit the mention of his Mangekyō Sharingan's atom resemblance after that Undo; it was something I placed in the description of it's [[Mangekyō Sharingan#Sasuke Uchiha|dedicated article]] beforehand, and decided it would be better left there. Anyways, thank you both for taking the time to explain your side of things. I shall now proceed to find a corner for myself to fiercely pout in. >:I —[[User:SaiST|'''SaiST''']] <sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px]]「[[User Talk:SaiST|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/SaiST|contrib]]」</sup> 14:10, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
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I'm new and just want to say, sasuke's rinnegan is nine tomoed, see 673 there's 3 row of magatamas, should be nine right? [[User:Rizki2013|Rizki2013]] ([[User talk:Rizki2013|talk]]) 18:04, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
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:This has been discussed. It's the general consensus that since the six tomoe depiction is more common that it's the correct number. Also, this has its own thread on Sasuke's talk page and the Rinnegan one. [[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 18:07, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
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:: I wonder when Elveonora will realize that the volume covers are done by the same people who do the digital releases? But of course, cherry picking is easier, I suppose. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 18:20, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
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:::I'm gonna assume every tomoe Rinnegan is also red, because of the Ten-Tails' eye and Sasuke's. But I'm just a crazy person.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:22, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
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:::: Apparently we both are. I mean, even by Elveonora's logic (which makes no sense, but for the sake of this argument, I'll entertain it), the Shinju's eye was colored red in a volume cover not all that long ago. But, of course, Kishimoto might've suddenly decided to color it rainbow (and then had Shueisha do it for him, since he doesn't color his manga), and then we'd have to change that. Pity. /sarcasm I'll add it to the article. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 18:25, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Sasuke's Age ==
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@Foxie, are you 100% sure those volume covers are done by the digital guys, like 100% or just your intuition?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:49, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
I know 643 is hasn't been added to the wikia yet, but when it is should we change Sasuke's age in Part II to 15-17? Naruto said he was 16 during his fight with Pain, and Obito said tomorrow in 643 is Naruto's birthday, meaning Naruto will be turning 17 tomorrow. If that is the case, Sasuke, who was born before him, should be 17 already right? [[User:Omega64|Omega64]] ([[User talk:Omega64|talk]]) 06:44, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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: Absolutely 100% certain. Kishimoto decides the colors but he doesn't color them himself. The publisher ultimately makes the final call (as is the case anytime you write anything and publish it through a publisher) and then they have an art team that does the colorings. If I'm not mistaken, Kishimoto's assistant has done a color page before, but I'm not certain if that is true or not. What I do know is that he doesn't color the volume covers. The publisher does. He also does not do the color pages. The publisher decides when it is appropriate and does it themselves. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 19:15, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
:Yes that is true but "Do not add new information if the manga chapter is not fully released yet." So yes as you thought, we should wait until the chaoter is fully released and added to the wiki. {{User:Rainbow Shifter/sig}} 07:05, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
::We should update ages of all characters with known birthdays using Naruto's birthday as a template--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:41, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::But we cannot add it if the chapter in which Naruto's birthday is has not been fully released yet. {{User:Rainbow Shifter/sig}} 12:45, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::I mean once it's out. I brought this up many times but some people oppose for whatever senile reason they have. If we know x character has birthday 10th October and has another birthday, we know EVERY SINGLE character born before the date has aged as well.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:01, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
That would be nearly everyone. Hinata, Lee, Sai and some others excluded. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau ]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 13:12, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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::Well, just to inform you guys, we're probably going to see the color of Sasuke's Rinnegan next week because there's going to be a center-color page and a poster in the chapter. [http://weeklyjump.livejournal.com/ Here's the link]. Anyway, my money's definitely on red.--[[User:The Zeitgeist|The Zeitgeist]] ([[User talk:The Zeitgeist|talk]]) 20:05, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
:Sounds like lots of work for sure, but leaving it not-updated will cause trouble. Like people will think there's more age difference between Naruto and x other character, if we change his to 17 but keep everyone else' the same--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:25, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
::I still don't know if it's a good idea to give ages without databook sources, though. :/ [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 13:26, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::I don't know why it shouldn't be while we know it's correct. We may be waiting for 4th databook to come out after another timeskip for all we know or never.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:31, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Because it's against me idea of what should be added to an article and what should not. But on the other hand, it's logical to add it, since Naruto's birthday is Year 0 and even my whole timeline is based on it... How old was Neji when he died? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 13:36, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
::: I'm of the same mind as Seen for one reason. ''If'' we change ''everyone's'' ages and then, the databook comes out and somehow we're wrong, then, not only have we been misinforming the users/readers, as you seem to be so concerned of doing now, Elve-kun, but we also have to go back and change them all over again. To me, it makes more sense to use databooks (sans, obviously, Naruto whom "tomorrow" in the manga, we know for sure he's 17) because they give you a straight up age. [Character name] is [this many years old]. There will be no need for us to guess, assume, hope, etc. And a databook is likely to come out. Its not like Kishi is just gonna make three and then go "lol, nope. They're gonna have to suffer through without this one." He'll at least make one more. Since it seems the manga is wrapping up, he may be waiting until closer to the end, or after the end to wrap things up and tie up any remaining loose endings. Then we'd have everyone's definite, final ages. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 13:38, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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::: Again, the people that do those pages are the same ones that have been putting out the other colorings. It will be red, the same as it always has been. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 20:10, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
::::There's no way for us to be wrong though, unless Kishimoto has changed birth dates of hundreds of characters. This is children logic and math here, no way to burn ourselves. The thing is, not updating their ages is misinforming as well. Sasuke is older than Naruto, but if we update just the latter's, that will make us lying that it's the other way around. Goes for everyone, let's say Naruto was 3 years older than x character according to 3rd databook, yet a year later, he is suddenly 5 years older, right, that's not misinforming and purposely leaving out information--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:46, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
:::: Elve, I'm saying its going to make for one big heck of a headache if we just start changing ages. Especially for these anons, like the one on Itachi's page, that think the ages are wrong already. Now all of a sudden we're trying to guess ages, and pray to God we're right, when we only know Sasuke and Naruto for sure (I'll give you Sasuke since we saw him as infant prior to Naruto's birth). It would make more sense to go off a concrete source, like a databook, rather than change everyone's ages and pray to all that is good and holy that we did something right. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 13:53, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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== Chidori Eisō? ==
   
"tear drop" I'm not saying otherwise, we can go by 3rd databook's ages and just add 1 year to everyone born prior to October 10--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:56, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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Didn't find it was discussed before. Who decided Sasuke used Chidori Eisō both the latest chapter and to bisect Madara? He is obviously using partial Susanoo transformation, only it is Susanoo's sword rather than hand this time. [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 14:53, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:I'm not sure how small you think the Susanoo's sword is, but that was definitely not the Susanoo sword. Sasuke can't just manifest a sword, he needs to manifest the rib-cage, the arm and then the sword IN the hand. He can't avoid steps. [[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 14:59, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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::The latest events just show that he CAN, both avoid steps AND resize the sword. It looks nothing like Chidori Eisō. [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 15:06, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:::It looks exactly like Chidori Sharp Spear. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:14, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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::::May you remind me since when Eiso has a guard and blade-like shape? [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 15:37, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::For quite a while now actually. It already had sword-like shape tens of chapters back--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:44, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::Maybe I missed it, but what about gourd? It's hard to miss, I'm pretty sure he never had it.[[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 15:48, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::There's no gourd, at least I can't see it. Chapter/page?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:53, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::::Counting colour spread as one page, it 7 page, the best is the last frame after Sasuke teleported. You can clearly see the guard and the grip. [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 15:59, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::::Check the technique's manga debut. It looked like that when he pierced Oro too.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:06, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::::::Ok, found it, thanks. [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 16:09, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
Bump, this one seriously needs concludin' --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:38, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
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== Rinnegan's unmentioned ability... ==
   
::I rather comment on this one than the other one. Since Kishimoto isn't that good with math, I believed he mentioned that, maybe the characters' ages are 16 - 17 instead of 15 - 16. If we put 15 - 17, than those just joining/visiting the wiki, will be confused and believe that their is another timeskip that we aren't covering. Maybe we could put "16 - 17." --[[User:KiumaruHamachi|KiumaruHamachi]] ([[User talk:KiumaruHamachi|talk]]) 18:38, August 24, 2013 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
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[[File:Sasuke First Person View.jpg|thumb|left|Sasuke's potential view and seeing into the Hinata's dream.]]
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I've read through Sasuke's Abilities section and I want to point something out. In chapter 678, page 4 it implies that Sasuke's Rinnegan has the ability to see the into the dreams of the shinobi trapped in the Infinite Tsukuyomi. It looks the same as the first person view as the Byakugan, the colour is just not inverted, as seen in the official coloured version. Should it be mentioned or is it trivial? [[User:Sparxs77|Sparxs77]] ([[User talk:Sparxs77|talk]]) 20:42, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:That is not him looking into them. It is done to show us what some of the victims are going thought. Similer to Narutos sage training he was feeling a sense of danger for his village and we kept on seeing the village under attack. Does that mean he has super vision?
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:Besides what does seeing a into a persons IT dream have to do with him teleporting"?" around the battlefeild before the IT is cast? --[[User:Darkhunter-X|Darkhunter-X]] ([[User talk:Darkhunter-X|talk]]) 21:02, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
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::Yeah, no. Kishi was just showing us some of the Allied Shinobi Forces' dreams. Sasuke's Rinnegan had nothing to do with it. [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]]) 21:03, June 6, 2014 (UTC) WindStar7125
   
== Age ==
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== New part II pic ==
   
According to chapter 643, Naruto's birthday is the next day. Since Sasuke is a few months older than Naruto, isn't Sasuke already 17? --''Kakashi Namikaze'' (retired) - [[User talk:Kakashi Namikaze|talk]] 17:20, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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How about using [[:File:Sasuke Uchiha War.png | this]] from the latest episode, as his infobox part II pic? He looks a bit angry maybe, but at least not so close-up as the other one. --[[User:Kasan94|<font color="#3B0B0B">'''Kasan94'''</font>]] [[File:Nara Symbol.svg|20px]] <sub>[[User_talk:Kasan94|''Talkpage'']]</sub> 21:57, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
:Yes.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:53, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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:{{Support}} Seems better than the current image. It looks good as well and it's rare that we find a smiling Sasuke image. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 22:31, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
::So should it be added? I will go ahead and do it. And shouldn't Naruto's be added if this is the case, seeming as the whole chapter is now out. {{User:Rainbow Shifter/sig}} 18:19, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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:: I'll change it then --[[User:Kasan94|<font color="#3B0B0B">'''Kasan94'''</font>]] [[File:Nara Symbol.svg|20px]] <sub>[[User_talk:Kasan94|''Talkpage'']]</sub> 23:36, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
:::What and why?''' ~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 18:23, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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:::Granted the art of the image is not as good as the previous one, but this is a better image. The other one was too up-close in his face, and you couldn't see the top of his head. The Obito image has the same problem, and I think that should be changed as well. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 23:57, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
::::Well we now know Sasuke and Naruto are 17 according to this chapter... Therefore should it be added to the infobox? {{User:Rainbow Shifter/sig}} 18:32, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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:The new image has shadow all over his face and is unsuitable because of it.
:::::More precisely, we know it's October 10th in Narutoverse.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:41, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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:I like [http://images.wikia.com/naruto/images/archive/c/ce/20140124043530!Sasuke_Shippuden.png this], or at least I like it better than the current or previous. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 18:15, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
:::::Same thing. {{User:Rainbow Shifter/sig}} 19:09, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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:: I would still say I prefer the current one. Yes it has shadows on his face (maybe we'll get a better one in the next few episodes). But I just thinks he looks more..... alive.. In the one you suggested he have very dead eyes, as far as I think. --[[User:Kasan94|<font color="#3B0B0B">'''Kasan94'''</font>]] [[File:Nara Symbol.svg|20px]] <sub>[[User_talk:Kasan94|''Talkpage'']]</sub> 21:56, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
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:::I agree, I think we can find a better Part II image than the current one, but I don't like Snapper's image, mainly because he looks exhausted and barely awake. And though the art of the prior image was spectacular, it was too zoomed in on Sasuke's face, where as the Part I image shows all of Sasuke's head, and I think both images need to be consistent with how much of the character they show (and that goes for every character's infobox images). --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 02:33, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
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:::: Well at least the next chapter will probably feature Sasukes group in the entire chapter, so maybe we get lucky there --[[User:Kasan94|<font color="#3B0B0B">'''Kasan94'''</font>]] [[File:Nara Symbol.svg|20px]] <sub>[[User_talk:Kasan94|''Talkpage'']]</sub> 08:24, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Why wait? Why hope for luck? Why not find some other image from one of the other 300 episodes of ''Shippuden'' that does not have the current's shadows? '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 07:29, June 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
Unless we're only getting the age from databooks, I see no problem with adding it. [[User_Talk:Joshbl56|<span style="color:#3EB489;">Joshbl</span>]][[User:Joshbl56|<span style="color:#4BD8A5;">56</span>]] 20:21, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
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I got some good pics from episode 366 of Sasuke close up. I'll upload them and you guys can choose what you want. They are
: Agreed as to Naruto and Sasuke; but only when the chapter comes out for the "next day" in the manga world. As currently, its the night of October 9th; so only Sasuke is 17. Any other characters, leave their ages alone until a databook comes out. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 20:54, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
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[[:File:Sasuke Shippuden 1.png|Here]] and
::Technically, knowing the date and the age of one character, it does mean he can stipulate the age of some other characters. Pretty much every one from Naruto's year can have their age updated if necessary, every person who we know the age difference from Naruto and the birthday can have it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:47, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
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[[:File:Sasuke_Shippuden_3.png|also here]]
:::^That is true. Just a quick check shows that most of the rookie 9 and team Guy could have their age updated if we do this. [[User_Talk:Joshbl56|<span style="color:#3EB489;">Joshbl</span>]][[User:Joshbl56|<span style="color:#4BD8A5;">56</span>]] 23:45, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::: @Omni: I know that. I'm not saying Elve is wrong, I actually agree that several characters have aged. I'm just ''really'' wanting to be cautious about tampering with ages. Especially since lately, the number of anon we've had around here trying to change ages (Itachi's being prime example) based of some absurd forum conjecture has been high lately and its likely to start those debates all over again. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 00:38, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::You're right. The thing is, I raised Sasuke in particular because Kushina's flashback confirmed that Sasuke was born before Naruto, so that is a given. But consistency too is important. --[[User:Kakashi Namikaze|Kakashi Namikaze]] - [[User talk:Kakashi Namikaze|talk]] 14:11, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
So when the chapter comes out are they going to be alot more edits dones to different characters apart from the konoha 11 then? --[[User:ROOT 根|<span style="color:lime;">Root</span>]][[User_talk:ROOT 根|<span style="color:lawngreen;">根</span>]] 09:45, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Bump--[[User:ROOT 根|<span style="color:lime;">Root</span>]][[User_talk:ROOT 根|<span style="color:lawngreen;">根</span>]] 17:59, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Adding/Changing Images ==
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[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] 18:19, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hi. I have two images from episode 326 that I would like to add to Sasuke Uchiha, but I can't for some reason. They are the anime versions of his New Susano'o and Eternal Mangekyo. Would someone help me out here please. --[[User:LokeTheBrave|LokeTheBrave]] ([[User talk:LokeTheBrave|talk]]) 15:18, August 22, 2013 (UTC)LokeTheBrave
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Sasuke's part II image was just changed last week, there's really no need to change it again. Besides, between stretching and a bit of blurriness, none of these are the same quality as the current image. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:00, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
:Those images have already been uploaded added to the page.... --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:01, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
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I just put in a better quality image. Somebody was deleting my uploads, so it forced my hand. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] 18:13, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
::Thats odd, I didn't see them when I checked earlier. Thanks though.--[[User:LokeTheBrave|LokeTheBrave]] ([[User talk:LokeTheBrave|talk]]) 16:16, August 22, 2013 (UTC)LokeTheBrave
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I don't like the one you have put up now, He just looks wrong. I'm changing it back, until we reach an agreement on this point, and please don't change it until we agree on something here. --[[User:Kasan94|<font color="#3B0B0B">'''Kasan94'''</font>]] [[File:Nara Symbol.svg|20px]] <sub>[[User_talk:Kasan94|''Talkpage'']]</sub> 21:18, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
== EMS image ==
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Well, what was wrong with it? [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] 21:25, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
I think it'd be better to use the manga photo until we have a better anime shot of his eye, wouldn't it? The old one shows the design up close, but now we have the same problem as the photo of Madara's Rinnegan, in that it isn't so much a photo of the eyes, but rather a photo of his face while he happens to have the eyes active. Thoughts? --[[User:M4ND0N|M4ND0N]] ([[User talk:M4ND0N|talk]]) 18:42, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
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: His hair covers to much of his face I think, if you try and compare to the current one. --[[User:Kasan94|<font color="#3B0B0B">'''Kasan94'''</font>]] [[File:Nara Symbol.svg|20px]] <sub>[[User_talk:Kasan94|''Talkpage'']]</sub> 21:28, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
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::But the current image does not really look too much like Sasuke- the character model just looks "off." I propose we change it back to WindStar's image until we can find a perfect picture that satisfies everyone. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 01:24, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
:I doubt a better shot is going to come up for some time yet. I'd say keep the anime image that's there and, if an alternative that shows the EMS better comes up, switch them out. Just how we switch out manga images when anime images become available that depict whatever. Plus, if people can't see the image clearly, they can just click it and view it in the lightbox. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:48, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
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::: I agree.--[[User:The Zeitgeist|The Zeitgeist]] ([[User talk:The Zeitgeist|talk]]) 04:54, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
::I would like to point out that having a "photo of the face with the eyes activated" is actually very good as a character article. If an image is needed for the design in their eye, then the overview page with it's gallery does nicely.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:01, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
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That's exactly what I thought, Kirin98. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] 05:55, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
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: I can't agree with you on this one bit. But if it's the opinion of the majority then I'll have to go along with it. --[[User:Kasan94|<font color="#3B0B0B">'''Kasan94'''</font>]] [[File:Nara Symbol.svg|20px]] <sub>[[User_talk:Kasan94|''Talkpage'']]</sub> 08:35, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
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::Why are people changing the image just because they can? I see literally no consensus here for any of the suggested images and if I can find the image that was being used long before this message was added, I'll add it back in (assuming it even exists). Also, why is there an obsessive need to keep changing the image in the infobox? Pick one and leave it there. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 08:43, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
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:::[[:File:Sasuke Shippuden.png]] '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 08:46, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
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::::But the problem is that it is too zoomed in onto his face, and you can't see his entire head like you can in the Part I image. It's inconsistent. We had the same problem with the Obito image, and that was fixed, and so therefore, I think this should as well. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 17:43, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::It might be zoomed in "too close", but it's the image that had a consensus. None of the images that have been suggested have any consensus for use, hence why the original image that had a consensus was restored. If you can indeed generate a consensus on this, then it can be changed: for sake of not clogging the TP up with discussion on this, it might be prudent to [[Board:Wiki Discussions|make a thread]] and add a topic of the article for more notice. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:23, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
   
Not if you can barely see the eyes and it's mostly their face. The manga image was perfect because the panel it was ripped from was used in a similar manner to his Sharingan and Mangekyo Sharingan images. Simply having color isn't a good enough reason to change it imo, especially when the artwork on the anime photo is cheaply done and in my eyes at least, bad. [no pun intended]. But it's your call, I'm just saying the manga photo did it's job to show Sasuke's EMS, and did it better if what we're looking for is an actual photo of the eye itself and not a zoomed out photo of his face where you can barely see said eye unless you click on the image. --[[User:M4ND0N|M4ND0N]] ([[User talk:M4ND0N|talk]]) 20:10, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
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== The Last Uchiha ==
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Since both Madara and Obito are now listed as "deceased", should Sasuke be mentioned that he's the sole survivor of the Uchiha Clan within his introductory paragraph?--[[User:The Zeitgeist|The Zeitgeist]] ([[User talk:The Zeitgeist|talk]]) 04:47, June 14, 2014 (UTC)
   
I don't see a problem with the picture. I can see it just fine.--[[User:LokeTheBrave|LokeTheBrave]] ([[User talk:LokeTheBrave|talk]]) 21:39, August 22, 2013 (UTC)LokeTheBrave
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Yes. So, I say proceed.--[[User:Hockey Machete|Hockey Machete]] ([[User talk:Hockey Machete|talk]]) 05:59, June 14, 2014 (UTC)
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: Alright then.--[[User:The Zeitgeist|The Zeitgeist]] ([[User talk:The Zeitgeist|talk]]) 06:06, June 14, 2014 (UTC)
   
You could see Sasuke's Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan just fine before without enlarging the image. Even then, I'd still argue that the anime's depiction was sub-par. The prior image was also more fitting as a side-by-side comparison to Sasuke's old Mangekyō Sharingan. I also believe the prior manga image should be retained until we get a more appropriate image from teh anime. —「[[User Talk:SaiST|'''SaiST''']]」<sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px|link=Special:Contributions/SaiST]]</sup> 00:02, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
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== Sasuke has 9 tomoe in his rinnegan ==
   
If we need an anime image that much couldn't we use the depiction of the scene from opening 12? I'm sure there's a creditless version and the artwork is superior to the episode counterpart. I'm not sure how it bodes for our policies but if that's not an option I agree, the manga image is better for now. --[[User:M4ND0N|M4ND0N]] ([[User talk:M4ND0N|talk]]) 02:40, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
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sorry guys I don't mean to start an argument but, sasuke has 9 tomoe in his rinnegan. I know that his rinnegan also appeared to have 6 as well later on, but that was after he had used his teleport ability. in the chapter where sasuke's rinnegan was first shown, he had 9 tomoe in his left eye. let me explain. in the first chapter in which his rinnegan was first shown, if you look at the rings in sasuke's rinnegan, you'll notice that on the first 3 rings he has a total of 9 tomoe, then later after he use his ability he appear to only appeared to have tomoe on the first 2 rings, having a total of 6. who knows if this is a drawing error, but when his rinnegan was first shown he had a total of 9, appearing on the first 3 rings in his rinnegan.--[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 14:36, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
:I don't think we'd be allowed to use that M4ND0N but it would be good if we could --[[User:ROOT 根|<span style="color:lime;">Root</span>]][[User_talk:ROOT |<span style="color:lawngreen;">根</span>]] 17:58, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
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:He was consistantly depicted with six Tomoe. If there's a reason for him sometimes having more or if Kishimoto screwed up, we don't know. For now, he has six. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau ]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:46, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
::What ROOT 根 said. Images taken from the credits do not count and are not allowed. The anime photo stays because, like TU3 said, the picture is fine for the page. An image showing the actual design of the EMS belongs on the MS page in the gallery. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 19:45, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Episode 326 ==
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only after he was using it consistantly, however you right. I still think its appropriate to add that he did infact 9 tomoe before he used and battled with madara.--[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 14:51, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
   
I believe the animators did three things wrong in this episode. First mistake, I'm glad they finally showed Sasuke but he shouldn't have been shown until the end possibly because in the manga when Kishimoto finally revealed his Eternal Mangekyo it was at the end of a chapter. Second Mistake is that Sasuke shouldn't have left the hideout this early I don't think, it was much later in the manga when he left it. Final mistake, when he left the hideout his eyes were black, but in the original colored manga page they were Sharingan. Has anyone noticed these mistakes? If so comment and let me know if you agree or disagree. I really dislike the idea of the animators making such obvious mistakes like that. --[[User:LokeTheBrave|LokeTheBrave]] ([[User talk:LokeTheBrave|talk]]) 04:39, August 23, 2013 (UTC)LokeTheBrave
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kishi has also consistently drew the jubi with six tomoe on occasions.--[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 14:57, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
:Pretty much sure that [[Anime-Manga Differences|anime does not strictly follow manga]].''' ~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 04:59, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
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::Majority of it does though. Excluding the fillers. They never follow the manga.--[[User:LokeTheBrave|LokeTheBrave]] ([[User talk:LokeTheBrave|talk]]) 05:03, August 23, 2013 (UTC)LokeTheBrave
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Dude, I've tried to argue this before. It's not going to persuade anyone. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[User talk:Windstar7125|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]]) 15:50, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
:::It's just simple animation errors... --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 07:50, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
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He was shown with nine tomoe once, and with six in every panel they're visible since. Six until there's substantial reason to say differently. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:12, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
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Aw, come on Omnibender, at least you can make a small trivia, make a little note that "when sasuke first appear with his rinnegan, it appeared to have nine tomoe, later it was depicted with six tomoe".--[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 16:32, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
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:I'm sure that already is stated somewhere.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:49, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
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::Once again, Elve, no it isn't. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[User talk:Windstar7125|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]]) 17:34, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
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::: It will likely be placed in the page of drawing errors (because yes, it is a drawing error). There is no need for a Trivia point here since it has been consistently shown with six since then. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple).svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 17:48, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
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== "Like the Shunshin no jutsu ==
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*In the mangastream translation, Naruto said that Sasuke was able to move around '''LIKE''' the shunshin no jutsu...... what does that mean & was it an accurate translation? If so, should it then be added to his abilities
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**Sasuke has the ability to move around likened to the shunshin no jutus
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:Or something like that?--[[User:Deathmailrock|Deathmailrock]] ([[User talk:Deathmailrock|talk]]) 07:30, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
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::The translations of this weeks chapter are even worse than they usually are, so we can't really tell yet. Please wait for me to get my hands on and translate the raws. :) • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 08:23, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
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== at this point ==
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Wouldn't it make sense to create an article for the teleportation technique? I mean, we've made for Kaguya's techniques, so why not his?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:36, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
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: I can't agree yet. We don't even know what it does. So far we've seen Sasuke disappear and then reappear. Sure we've seen him do it a few times now, but combine that with Naruto's comment that it is "like the shunshin", and even then we don't know what it does. Vanishing and then reappearing isn't worth an article. When we see its mechanics, like if he has to focus his eye, or if he simply has to focus to teleport, then we can do something with it. Otherwise, we simply don't know enough. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple).svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 23:50, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::I wouldn't oppose waiting, but latest chapter made it clear (to me at least) that it is space-time ninjutsu. Shunshin is simply fast movement and unless Sasuke's so fast that he can walk through air, he teleported himself and Naruto to Kaguya--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:54, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::: Honestly I think Naruto was comparing it to Hiraishin, which gets called shunshin a lot lately for some reason. I agree with you, but again, disappearing and then suddenly reappearing isn't special. Even Konohamaru can do that. Until something happens to distinguish it, though, I see no need. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple).svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 23:57, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
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:::: Fair points, but if we don't learn anything more about this technique soon, then I propose we create a page about the technique and we give it the name ourselves. For instance, we created the names of techniques like "Dimensional Shifting", "Space-Time Portal", and "Black Zetsu Merging Technique." And to be honest, we know even ''less'' about those techniques than Sasuke's teleportation technique. Let me know how you feel about this. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 20:47, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
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::::: How do you figure? We know exactly what those techniques do. "Dimensional Shifting" allows Kaguya to rewrite reality to create new dimensions, as per Kakashi's own explanations, the "Space-Time Portal" is obvious. She creates a portal and teleports with it. We've always known what "Black Zetsu Merging" does and his "Recording" technique has existed since Part I. I think you're getting antsy because we created pages that have ''no official name'' for Kaguya and Zetsu, but don't acknowledge that not only do we not have a name for Sasuke's Rinnegan technique, we also don't know what the hell it does. Seriously. One moment he (or his sword) is in one location, the next moment he is elsewhere. That is all we know. That does not constitute a page. Hell, that doesn't even constitute a Trivia point. All we know about it is on his article and should remain that way until we actually get some mechanics here. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple).svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 21:55, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::: Once again, fair points. But I wouldn't count on an explanation on how it works- if there would be one, it would have been in 674 when it was introduced. What we do know is that he can teleport himself and other people and objects a great distance. He can also use this ability to switch places with another person or object. There is a limited space in which he can use this technique, and it is compared to Minato's Flying Thunder God Technique. All that information above is, in my opinion, worthy of an article. That being said, if the mechanics are never explained and/or the technique is never given a name, are we still not planning on creating a page for the technique? --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 14:12, June 30, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::: What do you think of the points I've made? --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 13:12, July 1, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::::Once again, my question remains unanswered. If there is nothing more that we learn about Sasuke's technique at any point in the series, will we still not create a page for Sasuke's Rinnegan teleportation technique, or will we actually create a page with our own name and explanation? --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 18:50, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
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: No we will not. Vanishing and reappearing can be chalked up to a Body Flicker Technique, for one. So if this is all we get on it, then tough pancakes. We're not in the business of inventing explanations when we have none. In every instance of the technique being used, we get too panels. One where Sasuke is standing still, and the next he's a few yards away. Again, Body Flicker can accomplish this too. The only reason we even know its Rinnegan-related is because Madara said he was starting to "figure out" Sasuke's "eye power". That still tells us absolutely nothing about it. Right now, it is documented. Everything we know about it is contained in a sentence (we literally only have a sentence worth's of explanation about it), which is also referenced, in his Rinnegan section. If and when it is explained, be it in the manga, or a databook, then a page can be made. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple).svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 19:39, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
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::Like I've said, you make fair points, and I don't disagree with you. However, I just have the issue that there are pages like Black Zetsu's recording ability, and we know virtually nothing about how it works or it's real name. Besides, I think more people than you and I should be the ones to decide the course of this dilemma. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 22:18, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
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::: I, again, am telling you that you are being very narrow sighted. Black Zetsu's recording ability has been known about since early Part II, and was used as far back as the end of Part I. We may not know ''how'' he does it, but we know what it does, what it has been used to do, and what its purpose is. Hence why there is a decent sized article about it, and only once sentence about this ability. There is no one else needed, its not going to be created with the information had. Period. Even if, by some act of God, you manage to get it created, Cerez, Ultimate, and Spey will immediately request its deletion (rightfully so) because they despise useless articles as it is. Drop it until we know more. Sasuke, so far, has done absolutely nothing special. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple).svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 22:37, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
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::::Very well. Despite our differing opinions, I have enjoyed conversing with you about the subject. Thank you for your insight. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 23:58, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
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== Final Susanoo ==
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The abilities section says that 'Following the recovery of Itachi's transplant, the final stage of his Susanoo underwent a drastic change, with scaled hands, a beak-like hood and a larger bow, with a more shield-like appearance, giving it an overall more intimidating appearance.', however, Sasuke acquired this version of Susanoo during his fight with Kakashi and Team 7, which took place before the transplant.
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No. That was his Susanoo before the transplant, when he had the MS. It had teeth and looked like Itachi's. Check Sasuke's Susanoo gallery. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User:WindStar7125]] [[User talk:WindStar7125|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 16:02, June 26, 2014 (UTC)
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== "Rinnegan Teleportation" Technique Page ==
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Given that we have created techniques that have not been given proper names such as "Black Zetsu Merging Technique", "Event Recording", "Dimensional Shifting", etc., I think we should create a page that revolves around Sasuke's teleportation abilities. For instance, we could call the technique "Rinnegan Teleportation", "Teleportation: Rinnegan", "Teleportation: Sasuke", or something more creative. What do you think? --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 14:15, June 27, 2014 (UTC)
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:http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Sasuke_Uchiha#at_this_point--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:23, June 27, 2014 (UTC)
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::Sorry about that... That subheading title didn't really scream out "name of Sasuke's teleportation technique." --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 20:42, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
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:::I have a thing for fancy titles--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:45, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
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== Sasuke's Rinnegan abilities ==
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Shouldn't we add Water Style, Earth Style, and Wind Style to his Chakra Natures since he has the Rinnegan? Just because he hasn't used any of those natures, doesn't mean he doesn't have them. We did the same thing for the Sot6P and yet we never saw him use them. We also never saw Hagoromo, or Madara use the Six Paths Technique yet those were put on there. So shouldn't Sasuke have those Jutsu's and chakra natures added to his profile?[[User:Sanbi221|Sanbi221]] ([[User talk:Sanbi221|talk]]) 21:36, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
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:I swear this thing has to be explained like every damned week. Rinnegan doesn't grant anyone natures, it simply allows him to learn them faster. I don't know the reasoning behind Hagoromo having all natures in his infobox. For Madara, he specifically told Obito that he would teach him Six Paths Technique, meaning he could use all 6. Hagoromo probably invented it, unless his mother did, in which case usage of all paths is questionable--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:42, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
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::Elveo is right. Except for the Madara thing. Madara has all ''5'' because he's actually used them not because of the Six Paths. Wood = Water + Earth, Fire (duh), Wind (fanned Gunbai), and Lightning (apart of storm release). -- '''[[User:Koto Senju|Koto]]'''<small><sup>[[user talk: Koto Senju|Talk Page]]-[[Special:Contributions/Koto Senju|My Contributions]]</sup></small> 21:50, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Oh I see. I've always been under the assumption that once you have the Rinnegan you're automatically granted all 5 Chakra Natures since every user except Obito and possibly Hagomoro has used it.[[User:Sanbi221|Sanbi221]] ([[User talk:Sanbi221|talk]]) 02:29, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
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==Sasuke's Personality Section==
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Hello, everyone. Yesterday, given the fact that Sasuke's page is now tagged for general cleanwork, I wanted to take the opportunity to trim down his personality section, something I wanted to do for a while now. However, a user kept reverting for who knows why. Not wanting to get into a edit war and get into trouble as result, I'm bringing this to the talk page. The main issue I have with his Sasuke's Personality section is that, for one thing, I've noticed repetitive sentences/already mentioned examples within the article. For example, the two passages below are taken directly from the section, and the issues are in bold:
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"As time passed on with this new path of revenge and with further corruption by Tobi and the Uchiha curse, Sasuke had grown much more cruel and ruthless, with the remaining morality he showed during his time with Orochimaru fading rapidly. '''During Taka's attack on the Kage Summit, Sasuke killed anyone who stood in his way, not caring about his team, and after cornering Danzō, sacrificed Karin who got taken hostage to accomplish his goals of vengeance, and attempted to kill Karin along with his former team-mates and teacher whilst experiencing neither shame, guilt, nor remorse for any of his actions.'''"
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"Though, as he became more consumed by his thirst for vengeance, he showed that he cared little for them and saw them as no more than tools to achieve his hatred-fueled goals, quickly discarding them when they were no longer necessary. '''This is seen at the Kage Summit where he leaves Jūgo and Suigetsu behind, taking only Karin with him who could lead him to where Danzō was, as well as killing many samurai who stood in his way. He would later discard Karin as well, unhesitatingly piercing her just to kill Danzō and then attempted to finish her off to prevent her from being a burden in the future.'''"
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Though written slightly differently, you can the similarities. Also, I want to point out this, which is actually the beginning sentence of the second paragraph below: "'''Initially, Sasuke still held onto the notion of sparing the innocent''' and cooperation, witnessed in his creation of a new group of shinobi."
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Then this is from another paragraph, about three paragraphs above from the the latter: "Despite getting stronger, '''Sasuke seemed unwilling to needlessly kill in his quest for revenge''', displaying that he still had some morals left.''"
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In the section, there are two sentences that stands alone together compared to the other paragraphs: "From his clan's massacre up until discovering the truth about Itachi, Sasuke was disgusted by anyone who would toy with innocent lives for personal gain as he believed Itachi had done. This also served as part of his reason for betraying Orochimaru."
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I felt like this was rather out there, and I wanted to find a place for it to place somewhere in the paragraph. So, I wanted to include in the following paragraph mentioning Sasuke's opnion on Orochimaru: "Despite claiming earlier that he did not care if he had to sacrifice his own body to Orochimaru as long as it served his quest for revenge, when Sasuke felt he had grown stronger than the Sannin, he thought that to give himself up to someone weaker than himself was insulting to the Uchiha. However, despite his disrespect of Orochimaru as a person, Sasuke does have great respect for his power, going so far as to reprimand Suigetsu when he felt the latter was underestimating Orochimaru's capabilities."
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It was also one of the parts that I edited last night, but was (again!) reverted: But this was the edit I made, as seen in the History: "Despite claiming earlier that he did not care if he had to [[Living Corpse Reincarnation|sacrifice his own body]] to [[Orochimaru]] as long as it served his quest for revenge, when Sasuke felt he had grown stronger than the Sannin, he thought that to give himself up to someone weaker than himself was insulting to the Uchiha. '''Additionally, Sasuke was disgusted by how Orochimaru would toy with innocent lives for personal gain, as he believed Itachi had done.''' However, despite his disrespect of Orochimaru as a person, Sasuke does have great respect for his power, going so far as to reprimand [[Suigetsu]] when he felt the latter was underestimating Orochimaru's capabilities."
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This was just a few edits I made yesterday. I also take some words that I felt over-exemplified. Nothing too big, though.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 21:55, July 15, 2014 (UTC)
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:Eehhh... Can we just trim this section down to two or three paragraphs? Does it really have to read as another biography? It's what we have the plot synopsis at the bottom for, right? —「[[User Talk:SaiST|'''SaiST''']]」<sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px|link=Special:Contributions/SaiST]]</sup> 00:51, July 16, 2014 (UTC)
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Doing that would be impossible. Sasuke isn't exactly a round character; he's dynamic. He changes with the story. I want to trim it down as much as possible, but again, apparently, a user is have issues with that. I want to revert to my edit again, but I can't do that without dragging myself into an edit war.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 03:32, July 16, 2014 (UTC)
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:I feel that his personality traits can be detailed without delving into every plot twist 'n turn that has effected them. The Personality section(and I suppose this is true for many of the primary characters on this wiki) has always felt bloated to me because it's been referencing just about every plot point. As I said, it reads like some kind of biography, or a plot synopsis from the character's perspective. Is all that '''really''' necessary to describe how Sasuke acts? —「[[User Talk:SaiST|'''SaiST''']]」<sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px|link=Special:Contributions/SaiST]]</sup> 04:15, July 16, 2014 (UTC)
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I agree with the point you're making, but trying trim it down to just two or three paragraphs? I don't know if that's possible.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 19:38, July 16, 2014 (UTC)
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:Perhaps you're right. I'll be quiet now, as I now realize I'm kind of derailing your purpose in creating this topic. ;) —「[[User Talk:SaiST|'''SaiST''']]」<sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px|link=Special:Contributions/SaiST]]</sup> 20:27, July 16, 2014 (UTC)
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No, it's okay. If you have ideas on how to improve the page, voice them. That's one of the purpose of having a talk page, after all. :) Besides, it doesn't matter anymore. Another user revamped the page. Although I still can't comprehend why my edit, even though it wasn't even big, was reverted without an explanation. :( Again, doesn't matter anymore.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 20:34, July 16, 2014 (UTC)
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First off, sorry for replying to you this late, my country was hit with a big typhoon a few days ago, which blacked out my place and made using the intenret, cable, and any other thing that runs on electricity pretty much impossible. I only just got your message now when the power finally came back on, but the powers' still unstable right now so I'm not sure how long the connection will last, so I'll apologize in advance if I don't respond to your response right away.
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Anyway, the main reason why I kept undoing most of the edits was because I wanted to change it back to as close to the original as possible, then fix it so that it would be less redundant and more informative and detailed, and that includes the entirety of the Uchiha page. See, the original reason on why I started doing this was because of a user called Steve920, who kept editing the sections of Sasuke's Page very badly, (i.e. greammar mistakes, vague explanations, copy and paste from different sites, etc.) when the page was already more or less okay as it was. 
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I waited for a few days to see if anyone would notice the mistakes and try to fix them, but they never did, so I had to fix it myself... And I admit I may have went a little oberboard with the editing and the undoing of edits (in other words, I pretty much lost it), but bad grammar and sloppy works of literature really set me off, especially if they only copied and pasted them of off some other site.
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I also apologize for undoing most of your edits (though I'm not sure if I was the only one), but it didn't seam like there were any redundancies, at least, at the time. And to me, they looked more like previous interpretations of how others viewed Sasuke's personality from before up to now. Sort of like a record on the changes of his personality. And although I'm not sure on whether having a personality section that details the history of his past personality to his current one or a summary of his current personality is better for the page, I prefer the former, so that's what I chose.
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But I see your point now on how it's a little repetitive (I mostly skimmed through the personality section and probably didn't see the repetitions before), like the mentioning of the Kage Summit Arc more than once for example. So how do you feel about melding the two:
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"Initially, Sasuke still held onto the notion of sparing the innocent and cooperation, witnessed in his creation of a new group of shinobi. Though, as he became more consumed by his thirst for vengeance and with further corruption from Tobi and the Uchiha curse, Sasuke had grown much more cruel and ruthless, with the remaining morality he showed during his time with Orochimaru fading rapidly. This is seen at the Kage Summit, where he killed anyone who stood in his way, as well as leaving Jūgo and Suigetsu behind, taking only Karin with him who could lead him to where Danzō was, and later discarding her as well, unhesitatingly piercing her just to kill Danzō and then attempted to finish her off to prevent her from being a burden in the future, showing that he cared little for them and saw them as no more than tools to achieve his hate-fueled goals."
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I didn't put the last paragraph you mentioned in because I think it would be better to include it like this:
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"In Part II, Sasuke became increasingly confident in his newfound abilities. Constantly, he remained composed and unconcerned with the situation at hand. Even when pressured by enemies like Orochimaru or Deidara, he showed no emotional build up unless the situation involved Itachi, ironically acting just like his older brother. However, Sasuke still seemed unwilling to needlessly kill in his quest for revenge, displaying that he still had some morals left."
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Edit: There were other things I mentioned as well, but the stupid editor page reloaded and deleted all of the things I typed, so this is all I could remember. Well, that, and that I think that this:
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"From his clan's massacre up until discovering the truth about Itachi, Sasuke was disgusted by anyone who would toy with innocent lives for personal gain as he believed Itachi had done. This also served as part of his reason for betraying Orochimaru."
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Looks better along with this:
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"In Part II, Sasuke became increasingly confident in his newfound abilities. Constantly, he remained composed and unconcerned with the situation at hand. Even when pressured by enemies like Orochimaru or Deidara, he showed no emotional build up unless the situation involved Itachi, ironically acting just like his older brother. However, Sasuke still seemed unwilling to needlessly kill in his quest for revenge, and was disgusted by anyone who would toy with innocent lives for personal gain as he believed Itachi had done. This also served as part of his reason for betraying Orochimaru. And displayed that he still had some morals left."
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Thought about putting it where you put it but decided against it because I thought the flow of it wouldn't work. That's probably the reason why I undid your edit (or maybe it was because I grew distrustful of sudden edits due to my experiences with Steve920's edits). Well, that, and because taking down a few paragraphs or sentences won't even make a difference in the page's length, Naruto wiki character pages are almost always long, so I stopped trying to make them shorter a long time ago, I'm actually growing to like it in fact, mostly because you don't have to go to another page to see a character's personality or quotes or abilities and etcetera.
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Well, I'll get back to you when I remember the rest. Once again sorry for replying to you this late and also for the wall of text. And I'll also put this on your profile page to make sure you get this. [[User:CroniclerX|CroniclerX]] ([[User talk:CroniclerX|talk]]) 05:31, July 17, 2014 (UTC) CroniclerX
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I watch have Sasuke's page under my Watchlist, so I'll know when something changes on its main page or talk page. In any case, sent you a response via your talk page. Since another user already revamped the section, there's no need to discussion this issue further.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 17:05, July 17, 2014 (UTC)
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==Six Paths==
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We should list Sasuke as a basic user of the six paths. Deva, Asura, Human, etc. we listed Obito as a user when he got the Rinnegan when he didn't use all of them, we should list Sasuke too. [[User:Officialkamuiblade|Officialkamuiblade]] ([[User talk:Officialkamuiblade|talk]]) 23:18, July 17, 2014 (UTC)Officialkamuiblade
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:I seem to recall someone saying that Obito was taught the six paths by Madara or something. Also we don't know what the tomoe Rinnegan can do in comparison with the standard one, so that's too guessy to take for fact. --[[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 23:20, July 17, 2014 (UTC)
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::Obito was listed as a user because he actually used the Six Paths of Pain technique, which meant he automatically had the ability to use it. Sasuke has never been seen casting a Six Paths of Pain technique (or whatever it was), so listing him as a user is speculation. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 23:23, July 17, 2014 (UTC)

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Susanoo flight? Edit

At what point in 676 did Sasuke's Susanoo fly? He was clearly jumping with it.--Reliops (talk) 20:04, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

And changing direction mid-air? ...--Elveonora (talk) 22:50, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
Well, in chapter 677, Sasuke's Susanoo is clearly flying! --Sir M (talk) 16:28, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Rinnegan inofobox iconEdit

It is possible to change a infobox icon of Sasuke's Rinnegan from generic purple one to his own version ? 従え 09:26, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Yata Mirror? Edit

There's never been a mention of it but is that the Yata Mirror in this pic? http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130919130943/naruto/images/b/ba/Sasuke_EMS%27s_Susanoo.png Arrancar79 (talk) 23:35, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

I believe it was stated somewhere that the shield there is actually a bigger version of the Susanoo's bow weapon, with a shield-like appearance. Atrix471 (talk) 23:42, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Why are we acting like it's not confirmed that Sasuke's Rinnegan allows him to resist Infinite Tsukuyomi?Edit

I just noticed in the artice that it says it maybe the reason he can resist it be but in every single translation I've read it outright states that his Rinnegan is what allows Sasuke and his Susanoo too resist the effects of the Infinite Tsukuyomi.--Thdyingbreed (talk) 15:22, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

From the article: "Black Zetsu also alluded that Sasuke's Rinnegan may be the reason why he was able resist the influence of the Infinite Tsukuyomi."--~UltimateSupreme 15:29, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

The more correct version would be like "Black Zetsu stated that Sasuke's Rinnegan is the reason as why he is able to resist the Infinite Tsukuyomi"

The one currently suggests we don't know the reason when we do know the reason which is do too his Rinnegan.--Thdyingbreed (talk) 13:28, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke's Rinnegan Color Edit

How do we know for sure that red is the color of his sharingan, I mean the official color volume isn't out yet. I mean I know there has been some fans who have been able to give the manga color, but I don't think official. Or is there an official color manga already out that's canon that shows what color his eye is?????--Ankhael (talk) 11:48, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

The Weekly Shōnen Jump has released a colored version of chapter #676 which depicts that Sasuke's Rinnegan is red-colored. And it's considered official like chapter #638. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 11:55, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Oh ok, thanks well I guess this raise more questions about rinnegan. Maybe sasuke has the ultimate form of rinnegan.. --Ankhael (talk) 11:59, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Oh yeah what about, shinju beast, kaguya, and Madara's third eye?--Ankhael (talk) 12:01, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

@Shak, now you confuse me... was chapter 676 part of the digital volume release of the whole manga or a separate thing? Because if it was the digital volume coloration, then that's not really canon no matter how official. Once the volume cover comes out and it depicts Sasuke's Rinnegan as purple, then that's canon--Elveonora (talk) 12:04, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Elve-kun. If you read the chapter's article trivia section. You'll understand what I'm saying and I didn't say canon. @Ankhael: Shinju's eye is red according to volume #64 cover. Madara's third eye is also red from the same chapter. For Kaguya's eye, no colored version of it. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 12:11, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
Latest chapter pretty much confirms that Madara's third eye also is a Rinnegan, therefore so is Kaguya's and Kaguya's presumably the same as Shinju's, so the eye most likely indeed is red, although I still would like a volume cover confirmation :)--Elveonora (talk) 12:30, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

I'm new and just want to say, sasuke's rinnegan is nine tomoed, see 673 there's 3 row of magatamas, should be nine right? Rizki2013 (talk) 18:04, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

This has been discussed. It's the general consensus that since the six tomoe depiction is more common that it's the correct number. Also, this has its own thread on Sasuke's talk page and the Rinnegan one. Atrix471 (talk) 18:07, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
I wonder when Elveonora will realize that the volume covers are done by the same people who do the digital releases? But of course, cherry picking is easier, I suppose. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 18:20, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
I'm gonna assume every tomoe Rinnegan is also red, because of the Ten-Tails' eye and Sasuke's. But I'm just a crazy person.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 18:22, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
Apparently we both are. I mean, even by Elveonora's logic (which makes no sense, but for the sake of this argument, I'll entertain it), the Shinju's eye was colored red in a volume cover not all that long ago. But, of course, Kishimoto might've suddenly decided to color it rainbow (and then had Shueisha do it for him, since he doesn't color his manga), and then we'd have to change that. Pity. /sarcasm I'll add it to the article. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 18:25, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

@Foxie, are you 100% sure those volume covers are done by the digital guys, like 100% or just your intuition?--Elveonora (talk) 18:49, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Absolutely 100% certain. Kishimoto decides the colors but he doesn't color them himself. The publisher ultimately makes the final call (as is the case anytime you write anything and publish it through a publisher) and then they have an art team that does the colorings. If I'm not mistaken, Kishimoto's assistant has done a color page before, but I'm not certain if that is true or not. What I do know is that he doesn't color the volume covers. The publisher does. He also does not do the color pages. The publisher decides when it is appropriate and does it themselves. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 19:15, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
Well, just to inform you guys, we're probably going to see the color of Sasuke's Rinnegan next week because there's going to be a center-color page and a poster in the chapter. Here's the link. Anyway, my money's definitely on red.--The Zeitgeist (talk) 20:05, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
Again, the people that do those pages are the same ones that have been putting out the other colorings. It will be red, the same as it always has been. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 20:10, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Chidori Eisō? Edit

Didn't find it was discussed before. Who decided Sasuke used Chidori Eisō both the latest chapter and to bisect Madara? He is obviously using partial Susanoo transformation, only it is Susanoo's sword rather than hand this time. Faust-RSI (talk) 14:53, June 5, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure how small you think the Susanoo's sword is, but that was definitely not the Susanoo sword. Sasuke can't just manifest a sword, he needs to manifest the rib-cage, the arm and then the sword IN the hand. He can't avoid steps. Atrix471 (talk) 14:59, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
The latest events just show that he CAN, both avoid steps AND resize the sword. It looks nothing like Chidori Eisō. Faust-RSI (talk) 15:06, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
It looks exactly like Chidori Sharp Spear. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:14, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
May you remind me since when Eiso has a guard and blade-like shape? Faust-RSI (talk) 15:37, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
For quite a while now actually. It already had sword-like shape tens of chapters back--Elveonora (talk) 15:44, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
Maybe I missed it, but what about gourd? It's hard to miss, I'm pretty sure he never had it.Faust-RSI (talk) 15:48, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
There's no gourd, at least I can't see it. Chapter/page?--Elveonora (talk) 15:53, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
Counting colour spread as one page, it 7 page, the best is the last frame after Sasuke teleported. You can clearly see the guard and the grip. Faust-RSI (talk) 15:59, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
Check the technique's manga debut. It looked like that when he pierced Oro too.--Elveonora (talk) 16:06, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
Ok, found it, thanks. Faust-RSI (talk) 16:09, June 5, 2014 (UTC)

Rinnegan's unmentioned ability... Edit

File:Sasuke First Person View.jpg

I've read through Sasuke's Abilities section and I want to point something out. In chapter 678, page 4 it implies that Sasuke's Rinnegan has the ability to see the into the dreams of the shinobi trapped in the Infinite Tsukuyomi. It looks the same as the first person view as the Byakugan, the colour is just not inverted, as seen in the official coloured version. Should it be mentioned or is it trivial? Sparxs77 (talk) 20:42, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

That is not him looking into them. It is done to show us what some of the victims are going thought. Similer to Narutos sage training he was feeling a sense of danger for his village and we kept on seeing the village under attack. Does that mean he has super vision?
Besides what does seeing a into a persons IT dream have to do with him teleporting"?" around the battlefeild before the IT is cast? --Darkhunter-X (talk) 21:02, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, no. Kishi was just showing us some of the Allied Shinobi Forces' dreams. Sasuke's Rinnegan had nothing to do with it. WindStar7125 (talk) 21:03, June 6, 2014 (UTC) WindStar7125

New part II pic Edit

How about using this from the latest episode, as his infobox part II pic? He looks a bit angry maybe, but at least not so close-up as the other one. --Kasan94 Nara Symbol Talkpage 21:57, June 12, 2014 (UTC)

 Support — Seems better than the current image. It looks good as well and it's rare that we find a smiling Sasuke image. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 22:31, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
I'll change it then --Kasan94 Nara Symbol Talkpage 23:36, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
Granted the art of the image is not as good as the previous one, but this is a better image. The other one was too up-close in his face, and you couldn't see the top of his head. The Obito image has the same problem, and I think that should be changed as well. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 23:57, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
The new image has shadow all over his face and is unsuitable because of it.
I like this, or at least I like it better than the current or previous. ~SnapperTo 18:15, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
I would still say I prefer the current one. Yes it has shadows on his face (maybe we'll get a better one in the next few episodes). But I just thinks he looks more..... alive.. In the one you suggested he have very dead eyes, as far as I think. --Kasan94 Nara Symbol Talkpage 21:56, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
I agree, I think we can find a better Part II image than the current one, but I don't like Snapper's image, mainly because he looks exhausted and barely awake. And though the art of the prior image was spectacular, it was too zoomed in on Sasuke's face, where as the Part I image shows all of Sasuke's head, and I think both images need to be consistent with how much of the character they show (and that goes for every character's infobox images). --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 02:33, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
Well at least the next chapter will probably feature Sasukes group in the entire chapter, so maybe we get lucky there --Kasan94 Nara Symbol Talkpage 08:24, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
Why wait? Why hope for luck? Why not find some other image from one of the other 300 episodes of Shippuden that does not have the current's shadows? ~SnapperTo 07:29, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

I got some good pics from episode 366 of Sasuke close up. I'll upload them and you guys can choose what you want. They are Here and also here

WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task 18:19, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke's part II image was just changed last week, there's really no need to change it again. Besides, between stretching and a bit of blurriness, none of these are the same quality as the current image. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:00, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

I just put in a better quality image. Somebody was deleting my uploads, so it forced my hand. WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task 18:13, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

I don't like the one you have put up now, He just looks wrong. I'm changing it back, until we reach an agreement on this point, and please don't change it until we agree on something here. --Kasan94 Nara Symbol Talkpage 21:18, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

Well, what was wrong with it? WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task 21:25, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

His hair covers to much of his face I think, if you try and compare to the current one. --Kasan94 Nara Symbol Talkpage 21:28, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
But the current image does not really look too much like Sasuke- the character model just looks "off." I propose we change it back to WindStar's image until we can find a perfect picture that satisfies everyone. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 01:24, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
I agree.--The Zeitgeist (talk) 04:54, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

That's exactly what I thought, Kirin98. WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task 05:55, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

I can't agree with you on this one bit. But if it's the opinion of the majority then I'll have to go along with it. --Kasan94 Nara Symbol Talkpage 08:35, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
Why are people changing the image just because they can? I see literally no consensus here for any of the suggested images and if I can find the image that was being used long before this message was added, I'll add it back in (assuming it even exists). Also, why is there an obsessive need to keep changing the image in the infobox? Pick one and leave it there. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 08:43, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
File:Sasuke Shippuden.png ~SnapperTo 08:46, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
But the problem is that it is too zoomed in onto his face, and you can't see his entire head like you can in the Part I image. It's inconsistent. We had the same problem with the Obito image, and that was fixed, and so therefore, I think this should as well. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 17:43, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
It might be zoomed in "too close", but it's the image that had a consensus. None of the images that have been suggested have any consensus for use, hence why the original image that had a consensus was restored. If you can indeed generate a consensus on this, then it can be changed: for sake of not clogging the TP up with discussion on this, it might be prudent to make a thread and add a topic of the article for more notice. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 12:23, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

The Last Uchiha Edit

Since both Madara and Obito are now listed as "deceased", should Sasuke be mentioned that he's the sole survivor of the Uchiha Clan within his introductory paragraph?--The Zeitgeist (talk) 04:47, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

Yes. So, I say proceed.--Hockey Machete (talk) 05:59, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

Alright then.--The Zeitgeist (talk) 06:06, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke has 9 tomoe in his rinnegan Edit

sorry guys I don't mean to start an argument but, sasuke has 9 tomoe in his rinnegan. I know that his rinnegan also appeared to have 6 as well later on, but that was after he had used his teleport ability. in the chapter where sasuke's rinnegan was first shown, he had 9 tomoe in his left eye. let me explain. in the first chapter in which his rinnegan was first shown, if you look at the rings in sasuke's rinnegan, you'll notice that on the first 3 rings he has a total of 9 tomoe, then later after he use his ability he appear to only appeared to have tomoe on the first 2 rings, having a total of 6. who knows if this is a drawing error, but when his rinnegan was first shown he had a total of 9, appearing on the first 3 rings in his rinnegan.--Ankhael (talk) 14:36, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

He was consistantly depicted with six Tomoe. If there's a reason for him sometimes having more or if Kishimoto screwed up, we don't know. For now, he has six. • Seelentau 愛 14:46, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

only after he was using it consistantly, however you right. I still think its appropriate to add that he did infact 9 tomoe before he used and battled with madara.--Ankhael (talk) 14:51, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

kishi has also consistently drew the jubi with six tomoe on occasions.--Ankhael (talk) 14:57, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

Dude, I've tried to argue this before. It's not going to persuade anyone. WindStar7125 (Talk) WindStar7125 (talk) 15:50, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

He was shown with nine tomoe once, and with six in every panel they're visible since. Six until there's substantial reason to say differently. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:12, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

Aw, come on Omnibender, at least you can make a small trivia, make a little note that "when sasuke first appear with his rinnegan, it appeared to have nine tomoe, later it was depicted with six tomoe".--Ankhael (talk) 16:32, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

I'm sure that already is stated somewhere.--Elveonora (talk) 16:49, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
Once again, Elve, no it isn't. WindStar7125 (Talk) WindStar7125 (talk) 17:34, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
It will likely be placed in the page of drawing errors (because yes, it is a drawing error). There is no need for a Trivia point here since it has been consistently shown with six since then. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple) 17:48, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

"Like the Shunshin no jutsu Edit

  • In the mangastream translation, Naruto said that Sasuke was able to move around LIKE the shunshin no jutsu...... what does that mean & was it an accurate translation? If so, should it then be added to his abilities
    • Sasuke has the ability to move around likened to the shunshin no jutus
Or something like that?--Deathmailrock (talk) 07:30, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
The translations of this weeks chapter are even worse than they usually are, so we can't really tell yet. Please wait for me to get my hands on and translate the raws. :) • Seelentau 愛 08:23, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

at this point Edit

Wouldn't it make sense to create an article for the teleportation technique? I mean, we've made for Kaguya's techniques, so why not his?--Elveonora (talk) 23:36, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

I can't agree yet. We don't even know what it does. So far we've seen Sasuke disappear and then reappear. Sure we've seen him do it a few times now, but combine that with Naruto's comment that it is "like the shunshin", and even then we don't know what it does. Vanishing and then reappearing isn't worth an article. When we see its mechanics, like if he has to focus his eye, or if he simply has to focus to teleport, then we can do something with it. Otherwise, we simply don't know enough. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple) 23:50, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
I wouldn't oppose waiting, but latest chapter made it clear (to me at least) that it is space-time ninjutsu. Shunshin is simply fast movement and unless Sasuke's so fast that he can walk through air, he teleported himself and Naruto to Kaguya--Elveonora (talk) 23:54, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
Honestly I think Naruto was comparing it to Hiraishin, which gets called shunshin a lot lately for some reason. I agree with you, but again, disappearing and then suddenly reappearing isn't special. Even Konohamaru can do that. Until something happens to distinguish it, though, I see no need. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple) 23:57, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
Fair points, but if we don't learn anything more about this technique soon, then I propose we create a page about the technique and we give it the name ourselves. For instance, we created the names of techniques like "Dimensional Shifting", "Space-Time Portal", and "Black Zetsu Merging Technique." And to be honest, we know even less about those techniques than Sasuke's teleportation technique. Let me know how you feel about this. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 20:47, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
How do you figure? We know exactly what those techniques do. "Dimensional Shifting" allows Kaguya to rewrite reality to create new dimensions, as per Kakashi's own explanations, the "Space-Time Portal" is obvious. She creates a portal and teleports with it. We've always known what "Black Zetsu Merging" does and his "Recording" technique has existed since Part I. I think you're getting antsy because we created pages that have no official name for Kaguya and Zetsu, but don't acknowledge that not only do we not have a name for Sasuke's Rinnegan technique, we also don't know what the hell it does. Seriously. One moment he (or his sword) is in one location, the next moment he is elsewhere. That is all we know. That does not constitute a page. Hell, that doesn't even constitute a Trivia point. All we know about it is on his article and should remain that way until we actually get some mechanics here. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple) 21:55, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
Once again, fair points. But I wouldn't count on an explanation on how it works- if there would be one, it would have been in 674 when it was introduced. What we do know is that he can teleport himself and other people and objects a great distance. He can also use this ability to switch places with another person or object. There is a limited space in which he can use this technique, and it is compared to Minato's Flying Thunder God Technique. All that information above is, in my opinion, worthy of an article. That being said, if the mechanics are never explained and/or the technique is never given a name, are we still not planning on creating a page for the technique? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 14:12, June 30, 2014 (UTC)
What do you think of the points I've made? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 13:12, July 1, 2014 (UTC)
Once again, my question remains unanswered. If there is nothing more that we learn about Sasuke's technique at any point in the series, will we still not create a page for Sasuke's Rinnegan teleportation technique, or will we actually create a page with our own name and explanation? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 18:50, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
No we will not. Vanishing and reappearing can be chalked up to a Body Flicker Technique, for one. So if this is all we get on it, then tough pancakes. We're not in the business of inventing explanations when we have none. In every instance of the technique being used, we get too panels. One where Sasuke is standing still, and the next he's a few yards away. Again, Body Flicker can accomplish this too. The only reason we even know its Rinnegan-related is because Madara said he was starting to "figure out" Sasuke's "eye power". That still tells us absolutely nothing about it. Right now, it is documented. Everything we know about it is contained in a sentence (we literally only have a sentence worth's of explanation about it), which is also referenced, in his Rinnegan section. If and when it is explained, be it in the manga, or a databook, then a page can be made. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple) 19:39, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
Like I've said, you make fair points, and I don't disagree with you. However, I just have the issue that there are pages like Black Zetsu's recording ability, and we know virtually nothing about how it works or it's real name. Besides, I think more people than you and I should be the ones to decide the course of this dilemma. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 22:18, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
I, again, am telling you that you are being very narrow sighted. Black Zetsu's recording ability has been known about since early Part II, and was used as far back as the end of Part I. We may not know how he does it, but we know what it does, what it has been used to do, and what its purpose is. Hence why there is a decent sized article about it, and only once sentence about this ability. There is no one else needed, its not going to be created with the information had. Period. Even if, by some act of God, you manage to get it created, Cerez, Ultimate, and Spey will immediately request its deletion (rightfully so) because they despise useless articles as it is. Drop it until we know more. Sasuke, so far, has done absolutely nothing special. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple) 22:37, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
Very well. Despite our differing opinions, I have enjoyed conversing with you about the subject. Thank you for your insight. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 23:58, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Final Susanoo Edit

The abilities section says that 'Following the recovery of Itachi's transplant, the final stage of his Susanoo underwent a drastic change, with scaled hands, a beak-like hood and a larger bow, with a more shield-like appearance, giving it an overall more intimidating appearance.', however, Sasuke acquired this version of Susanoo during his fight with Kakashi and Team 7, which took place before the transplant.

Madara solos (talk) 12:21, June 26, 2014 (UTC)Madara solos

No. That was his Susanoo before the transplant, when he had the MS. It had teeth and looked like Itachi's. Check Sasuke's Susanoo gallery. WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task (Talk) 16:02, June 26, 2014 (UTC)

"Rinnegan Teleportation" Technique Page Edit

Given that we have created techniques that have not been given proper names such as "Black Zetsu Merging Technique", "Event Recording", "Dimensional Shifting", etc., I think we should create a page that revolves around Sasuke's teleportation abilities. For instance, we could call the technique "Rinnegan Teleportation", "Teleportation: Rinnegan", "Teleportation: Sasuke", or something more creative. What do you think? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 14:15, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Sasuke_Uchiha#at_this_point--Elveonora (talk) 15:23, June 27, 2014 (UTC)
Sorry about that... That subheading title didn't really scream out "name of Sasuke's teleportation technique." --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 20:42, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
I have a thing for fancy titles--Elveonora (talk) 20:45, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke's Rinnegan abilities Edit

Shouldn't we add Water Style, Earth Style, and Wind Style to his Chakra Natures since he has the Rinnegan? Just because he hasn't used any of those natures, doesn't mean he doesn't have them. We did the same thing for the Sot6P and yet we never saw him use them. We also never saw Hagoromo, or Madara use the Six Paths Technique yet those were put on there. So shouldn't Sasuke have those Jutsu's and chakra natures added to his profile?Sanbi221 (talk) 21:36, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

I swear this thing has to be explained like every damned week. Rinnegan doesn't grant anyone natures, it simply allows him to learn them faster. I don't know the reasoning behind Hagoromo having all natures in his infobox. For Madara, he specifically told Obito that he would teach him Six Paths Technique, meaning he could use all 6. Hagoromo probably invented it, unless his mother did, in which case usage of all paths is questionable--Elveonora (talk) 21:42, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Elveo is right. Except for the Madara thing. Madara has all 5 because he's actually used them not because of the Six Paths. Wood = Water + Earth, Fire (duh), Wind (fanned Gunbai), and Lightning (apart of storm release). -- KotoTalk Page-My Contributions 21:50, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Oh I see. I've always been under the assumption that once you have the Rinnegan you're automatically granted all 5 Chakra Natures since every user except Obito and possibly Hagomoro has used it.Sanbi221 (talk) 02:29, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke's Personality SectionEdit

Hello, everyone. Yesterday, given the fact that Sasuke's page is now tagged for general cleanwork, I wanted to take the opportunity to trim down his personality section, something I wanted to do for a while now. However, a user kept reverting for who knows why. Not wanting to get into a edit war and get into trouble as result, I'm bringing this to the talk page. The main issue I have with his Sasuke's Personality section is that, for one thing, I've noticed repetitive sentences/already mentioned examples within the article. For example, the two passages below are taken directly from the section, and the issues are in bold:

"As time passed on with this new path of revenge and with further corruption by Tobi and the Uchiha curse, Sasuke had grown much more cruel and ruthless, with the remaining morality he showed during his time with Orochimaru fading rapidly. During Taka's attack on the Kage Summit, Sasuke killed anyone who stood in his way, not caring about his team, and after cornering Danzō, sacrificed Karin who got taken hostage to accomplish his goals of vengeance, and attempted to kill Karin along with his former team-mates and teacher whilst experiencing neither shame, guilt, nor remorse for any of his actions."

"Though, as he became more consumed by his thirst for vengeance, he showed that he cared little for them and saw them as no more than tools to achieve his hatred-fueled goals, quickly discarding them when they were no longer necessary. This is seen at the Kage Summit where he leaves Jūgo and Suigetsu behind, taking only Karin with him who could lead him to where Danzō was, as well as killing many samurai who stood in his way. He would later discard Karin as well, unhesitatingly piercing her just to kill Danzō and then attempted to finish her off to prevent her from being a burden in the future."

Though written slightly differently, you can the similarities. Also, I want to point out this, which is actually the beginning sentence of the second paragraph below: "Initially, Sasuke still held onto the notion of sparing the innocent and cooperation, witnessed in his creation of a new group of shinobi."

Then this is from another paragraph, about three paragraphs above from the the latter: "Despite getting stronger, Sasuke seemed unwilling to needlessly kill in his quest for revenge, displaying that he still had some morals left."

In the section, there are two sentences that stands alone together compared to the other paragraphs: "From his clan's massacre up until discovering the truth about Itachi, Sasuke was disgusted by anyone who would toy with innocent lives for personal gain as he believed Itachi had done. This also served as part of his reason for betraying Orochimaru."

I felt like this was rather out there, and I wanted to find a place for it to place somewhere in the paragraph. So, I wanted to include in the following paragraph mentioning Sasuke's opnion on Orochimaru: "Despite claiming earlier that he did not care if he had to sacrifice his own body to Orochimaru as long as it served his quest for revenge, when Sasuke felt he had grown stronger than the Sannin, he thought that to give himself up to someone weaker than himself was insulting to the Uchiha. However, despite his disrespect of Orochimaru as a person, Sasuke does have great respect for his power, going so far as to reprimand Suigetsu when he felt the latter was underestimating Orochimaru's capabilities."

It was also one of the parts that I edited last night, but was (again!) reverted: But this was the edit I made, as seen in the History: "Despite claiming earlier that he did not care if he had to sacrifice his own body to Orochimaru as long as it served his quest for revenge, when Sasuke felt he had grown stronger than the Sannin, he thought that to give himself up to someone weaker than himself was insulting to the Uchiha. Additionally, Sasuke was disgusted by how Orochimaru would toy with innocent lives for personal gain, as he believed Itachi had done. However, despite his disrespect of Orochimaru as a person, Sasuke does have great respect for his power, going so far as to reprimand Suigetsu when he felt the latter was underestimating Orochimaru's capabilities."

This was just a few edits I made yesterday. I also take some words that I felt over-exemplified. Nothing too big, though.--NinjaSheik 21:55, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Eehhh... Can we just trim this section down to two or three paragraphs? Does it really have to read as another biography? It's what we have the plot synopsis at the bottom for, right? —「SaiSTMangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal) 00:51, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Doing that would be impossible. Sasuke isn't exactly a round character; he's dynamic. He changes with the story. I want to trim it down as much as possible, but again, apparently, a user is have issues with that. I want to revert to my edit again, but I can't do that without dragging myself into an edit war.--NinjaSheik 03:32, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

I feel that his personality traits can be detailed without delving into every plot twist 'n turn that has effected them. The Personality section(and I suppose this is true for many of the primary characters on this wiki) has always felt bloated to me because it's been referencing just about every plot point. As I said, it reads like some kind of biography, or a plot synopsis from the character's perspective. Is all that really necessary to describe how Sasuke acts? —「SaiSTMangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal) 04:15, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

I agree with the point you're making, but trying trim it down to just two or three paragraphs? I don't know if that's possible.--NinjaSheik 19:38, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps you're right. I'll be quiet now, as I now realize I'm kind of derailing your purpose in creating this topic.  ;) —「SaiSTMangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal) 20:27, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

No, it's okay. If you have ideas on how to improve the page, voice them. That's one of the purpose of having a talk page, after all. :) Besides, it doesn't matter anymore. Another user revamped the page. Although I still can't comprehend why my edit, even though it wasn't even big, was reverted without an explanation. :( Again, doesn't matter anymore.--NinjaSheik 20:34, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

First off, sorry for replying to you this late, my country was hit with a big typhoon a few days ago, which blacked out my place and made using the intenret, cable, and any other thing that runs on electricity pretty much impossible. I only just got your message now when the power finally came back on, but the powers' still unstable right now so I'm not sure how long the connection will last, so I'll apologize in advance if I don't respond to your response right away.

Anyway, the main reason why I kept undoing most of the edits was because I wanted to change it back to as close to the original as possible, then fix it so that it would be less redundant and more informative and detailed, and that includes the entirety of the Uchiha page. See, the original reason on why I started doing this was because of a user called Steve920, who kept editing the sections of Sasuke's Page very badly, (i.e. greammar mistakes, vague explanations, copy and paste from different sites, etc.) when the page was already more or less okay as it was. 

I waited for a few days to see if anyone would notice the mistakes and try to fix them, but they never did, so I had to fix it myself... And I admit I may have went a little oberboard with the editing and the undoing of edits (in other words, I pretty much lost it), but bad grammar and sloppy works of literature really set me off, especially if they only copied and pasted them of off some other site.

I also apologize for undoing most of your edits (though I'm not sure if I was the only one), but it didn't seam like there were any redundancies, at least, at the time. And to me, they looked more like previous interpretations of how others viewed Sasuke's personality from before up to now. Sort of like a record on the changes of his personality. And although I'm not sure on whether having a personality section that details the history of his past personality to his current one or a summary of his current personality is better for the page, I prefer the former, so that's what I chose.

But I see your point now on how it's a little repetitive (I mostly skimmed through the personality section and probably didn't see the repetitions before), like the mentioning of the Kage Summit Arc more than once for example. So how do you feel about melding the two:

"Initially, Sasuke still held onto the notion of sparing the innocent and cooperation, witnessed in his creation of a new group of shinobi. Though, as he became more consumed by his thirst for vengeance and with further corruption from Tobi and the Uchiha curse, Sasuke had grown much more cruel and ruthless, with the remaining morality he showed during his time with Orochimaru fading rapidly. This is seen at the Kage Summit, where he killed anyone who stood in his way, as well as leaving Jūgo and Suigetsu behind, taking only Karin with him who could lead him to where Danzō was, and later discarding her as well, unhesitatingly piercing her just to kill Danzō and then attempted to finish her off to prevent her from being a burden in the future, showing that he cared little for them and saw them as no more than tools to achieve his hate-fueled goals."

I didn't put the last paragraph you mentioned in because I think it would be better to include it like this:

"In Part II, Sasuke became increasingly confident in his newfound abilities. Constantly, he remained composed and unconcerned with the situation at hand. Even when pressured by enemies like Orochimaru or Deidara, he showed no emotional build up unless the situation involved Itachi, ironically acting just like his older brother. However, Sasuke still seemed unwilling to needlessly kill in his quest for revenge, displaying that he still had some morals left."

Edit: There were other things I mentioned as well, but the stupid editor page reloaded and deleted all of the things I typed, so this is all I could remember. Well, that, and that I think that this:

"From his clan's massacre up until discovering the truth about Itachi, Sasuke was disgusted by anyone who would toy with innocent lives for personal gain as he believed Itachi had done. This also served as part of his reason for betraying Orochimaru."

Looks better along with this:

"In Part II, Sasuke became increasingly confident in his newfound abilities. Constantly, he remained composed and unconcerned with the situation at hand. Even when pressured by enemies like Orochimaru or Deidara, he showed no emotional build up unless the situation involved Itachi, ironically acting just like his older brother. However, Sasuke still seemed unwilling to needlessly kill in his quest for revenge, and was disgusted by anyone who would toy with innocent lives for personal gain as he believed Itachi had done. This also served as part of his reason for betraying Orochimaru. And displayed that he still had some morals left."

Thought about putting it where you put it but decided against it because I thought the flow of it wouldn't work. That's probably the reason why I undid your edit (or maybe it was because I grew distrustful of sudden edits due to my experiences with Steve920's edits). Well, that, and because taking down a few paragraphs or sentences won't even make a difference in the page's length, Naruto wiki character pages are almost always long, so I stopped trying to make them shorter a long time ago, I'm actually growing to like it in fact, mostly because you don't have to go to another page to see a character's personality or quotes or abilities and etcetera.


Well, I'll get back to you when I remember the rest. Once again sorry for replying to you this late and also for the wall of text. And I'll also put this on your profile page to make sure you get this. CroniclerX (talk) 05:31, July 17, 2014 (UTC) CroniclerX

I watch have Sasuke's page under my Watchlist, so I'll know when something changes on its main page or talk page. In any case, sent you a response via your talk page. Since another user already revamped the section, there's no need to discussion this issue further.--NinjaSheik 17:05, July 17, 2014 (UTC)

Six PathsEdit

We should list Sasuke as a basic user of the six paths. Deva, Asura, Human, etc. we listed Obito as a user when he got the Rinnegan when he didn't use all of them, we should list Sasuke too. Officialkamuiblade (talk) 23:18, July 17, 2014 (UTC)Officialkamuiblade

I seem to recall someone saying that Obito was taught the six paths by Madara or something. Also we don't know what the tomoe Rinnegan can do in comparison with the standard one, so that's too guessy to take for fact. --Atrix471 (talk) 23:20, July 17, 2014 (UTC)
Obito was listed as a user because he actually used the Six Paths of Pain technique, which meant he automatically had the ability to use it. Sasuke has never been seen casting a Six Paths of Pain technique (or whatever it was), so listing him as a user is speculation. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 23:23, July 17, 2014 (UTC)

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