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== Rinnegan Tomoe ==
   
<span class="warningmessage">QUESTIONS REGARDING TOPICS ALREADY IN THE TALK PAGE OR ITS ARCHIVES <strong>WILL BE REMOVED</strong>, ALONG WITH THE REPLIES TO IT</span>
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According to Naruto Gaiden 700+8, the tomoe of Sasuke's Rinnegan appear when he's at full power and when he's drained, he loses them...but he was able to use Amenotejikara while it was a "regular" Rinnegan. What?
   
== Concerning the Mangekyō Sharingan section ==
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Can we all agree on something before it's added and starts an editing war? --[[User:NeedleJizo|Jizo 悟]] ([[User talk:NeedleJizo|talk]]) 05:57, June 18, 2015 (UTC)
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:He may have mastered Amenotejikara to a point where he didn't need to use too much chakra. For more grandiose techniques such as maybe the Six Paths Technique and its variants, yeah, he might need the full power of the Rinnegan. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 06:04, June 18, 2015 (UTC)
   
As I said in the summary of it's edit before: ''"Paragraphs and images—especially his first final Susanoo—were placed in that manner to form some semblance of event order. Topics are being mentioned prior to their descriptions."'' It comes off as a bit jumbled, which is why I tried to re-arrange it the way I did. Concerning the image of Sasuke's final Susanoo, I found it more appropriate to display his first rendition, as it was not only mentioned prior to the the summary of his Eternal Mangekyō, but because there's already a fine example of his Eternal Mangekyō version present in the [[Sasuke Uchiha#Shinobi World War Arc|War Arc]] section.
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We know that his Mangekyo was supposed to be his EMS(art error in this chapter), but it is confirmed he has a normal Rinnegan but it is powered up basically 2 Rinnegan in one with his Left EMS Powers put into it adding 6 tomoe to it, when he overuses it, it's back to a normal tomoe-less Rinnegan and we didn't know this before because he simply closed his eyes before. Btw, DB4 says Amenotejikara is a Rinnegan tech regardless, it seems it is just his personal tech, like Madaras personal tech is Limbo [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 06:08, June 18, 2015 (UTC)
   
Lots of quips like that throughout the article, but I was focusing on those present in his Dōjutsu section, as that interests me most... Also, slightly unrelated, but when using the term ''Sannin'', it should be used to describe all three of them, not individually. [[User:SaiST|'''SaiST''']] <sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px]]「[[User Talk:SaiST|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/SaiST|contrib]]」</sup> 08:56, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
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:It's also possible he could only teleport with the tomoe Rinnegan, and when it reverted to its original Rinnegan form he had to wait to regain chakra before transforming it, again. He didn't say he used the normal Rinnegan form to teleport. [[User:Diamonddeath|Diamonddeath]] ([[User talk:Diamonddeath|talk]]) 07:11, June 18, 2015 (UTC)
   
:... Er, to clarify: I would simply like to re-instate the format for the Mangekyō Sharingan section as it was in this revision: [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sasuke_Uchiha?oldid=803821] ... Any input, please? —[[User:SaiST|'''SaiST''']] <sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px]]「[[User Talk:SaiST|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/SaiST|contrib]]」</sup> 16:55, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
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== Healing Power ==
::Except here's the thing...we've organized the section in a way that all three techniques have their own ''sub-section'' if you will, displaying the development of each technique...in regards to Sasuke's final Susanoo...it's most complete version of the technique shown so far, which is why it's on display.
 
::Also the term Sannin, defines two things...group name and an unofficial rank. [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 17:56, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
:::The detail of each technique's development was left intact in my revision. Only the changes affected by the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan were partitioned to it's portion of the section. In my opinion, it comes off more coherent to:
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There seems to be confusion on whether Sasuke has Hashirama's cells or not. Even if he doesn't have his arm, would he not still have his cells due to Kabuto implanting them into him when healing him? Also, if you're going to say that Kabuto didn't implant the cells into him but used his "study" of the cells to help him then can you link the chapter please? Cause that doesn't make any sense. How does the study of Hashirama's super cells help Kabuto heal Sasuke faster? Would it not make sense for him to be implanting Hashirama's cells into him? --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 17:45, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
:::*Relay the abilities of his Mangekyō Sharingan.
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:Well thing is that it actially creates even more mess that we have already, Kabuto implanting Hashirama cells(instead of using knowledge) into Sasuke means that Kabuto himself had them. As we know implanting Hashirama cells is very hard to achive(considering Yamato is sole survivor and Danzo needed Shin's hand) while i ready to buy that Sasuke is able to "acept" them(as Madara did) i doubt that Kabuto is can do the same. Moreover in fight with Itachi and Sasuke, Kabuto stated that his healing power stems from Karin, if had Hashi cells why did not he mention it as better source? ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 18:03, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
:::*How they affected him.
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::You don't need the cells in your own body to apply them to another body, lol • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:16, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
:::*And how his acquisition of the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan changed '''any''' of that.
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:::So snake-hose was not from Kabuto's body?And i didn't see anything that even remotely resembles any equipment(medical for this matter) near Kabuto. ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 18:20, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
:::It serves to better distinguish his own eyes' power, from what is changed, or gained from exchanging them for Itachi's... Which is also part of the reason I wish to leave the image of Sasuke's older final Susanoo intact; the other part being that it is so underexposed that many are under the impression that Sasuke's Susanoo didn't gain the ability to conjure up Amaterasu's black flames '''until''' he took Itachi's eyes. It is, ultimately, a very small matter, but it still bugs the heck out of me. :P
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::::No idea, but he said he used them, not the he himself possessed them. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:21, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
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Yes, it's quite possible that Kabuto simply carried Hashirama's cells and later implanted them into Sasuke. What I'm trying to say though, is if the translation of that chapter is correct, then Sasuke certainly has Hashirama's cells, then he has the healing power doesn't he? That should settle the whole editing war going on on the Healing Power page ya think? --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 21:47, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
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:Well i don't know considering amout of cells that need to heal pierced heart is minimal i don't even think it can work with him. Anyway i think we must list only people who actually displayed this feat and exclude Jugo, Yamato, Sasuke, Naruto who didn't show it. ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 23:09, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
   
:::And ''"Sannin"'' is never used to identify Jiraiya, Orochimaru, or Tsunade individually. Jiraiya, of course, is referred to as ''"S'''e'''nnin"'', which many fans have mixed up with the term coined for all three of the former teammates for ''years''... —[[User:SaiST|'''SaiST''']] <sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px]]「[[User Talk:SaiST|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/SaiST|contrib]]」</sup> 18:46, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
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== Animated Rinnegan Pic (Boruto trailer)? ==
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I can add it, but didn't want to do anything without consensus.--[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 03:15, June 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:I was gonna upload it but it didn't show all 6 tomoe fully. I'd wait a couple of weeks for the anime but thats just my opinion. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 03:39, June 25, 2015 (UTC)
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::It's cool. The current picture is a really good one after all.--[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 04:37, June 25, 2015 (UTC)
   
Your revision leaves it too far spread to me...and likely most of the other users view it better like it is:
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== Part 2 picture ==
:*Denoting the look of the Mangekyo
 
:*Explaning the drawbacks.
 
:*Displaying each technique and their according development.
 
   
Sennin is a translation of Sage, which both Jiraiya and Oro are...there is no confusion in that. And yes it is used to identify them, since it was the term that marked their rise to battle fame as shinobi. [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 23:06, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
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I think his part two picture should be changed to one of these:
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http://imgur.com/7Nx32Tl
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http://imgur.com/aEfR5r8
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http://imgur.com/91Y4QGN
   
: Arguing over the terms used is pointless. The reason he is referred to as "''Sannin''" is because he is one of the three. It doesn't matter if they were ever referred to individually as such, though I recall on numerous occasions him being referred to as "one of the three Sannin". Secondly, your revisions are far too spread. It goes into unnecessary detail about the appearance of the Mangekyō, when only a basic, standard description is needed, which is what we have, followed by how the Mangekyō developed; its drawbacks, the techniques Sasuke developed or learned, and what he can do with them. The current revision is detailed just enough to give us an idea on what he can do with it, without it becoming long winded. We don't need to write a book on Sasuke's Mangekyō, just give readers a general idea on what he can do with it. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 00:19, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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([[User:Clear Waters|Clear Waters]] ([[User talk:Clear Waters|talk]]) 19:17, June 28, 2015 (UTC))
   
::Ten Tailed Fox, compared to the current revision, my own possessed approximately 400 less characters. Initially, only around 200 characters were added from my attempted rehaul of the section. The ''"book"'', as you say, was already there; my intention was only to rearrange it's contents to avoid the sporadic mention of abilities, and more coincide with the order of events. With that in mind, I'm curious as to why my summary came off as so long winded to you.
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:I'm fine with the current one, as other people are. Besides the first image has lightning streaks and a curse mark visible, the second one shows the Akatsuki hood (which isn't something he prominently wears), and the third image I'm pretty sure is edited. All in all, no. --[[User:SSJ2AJB|SSJ2AJB]] ([[User talk:SSJ2AJB|talk]]) 19:26, June 28, 2015 (UTC)
   
::''"Sannin"'' = ''"Three Nin"''. If you saw any translations depicting any one of them as '''a''' Sannin, or ''"one of the '''three''' Sannin"'', they would be inaccurate. The point of my bringing up ''"S'''e'''nnin"'', which it seems Darksusanoo missed, is that the usage of both terms have been—and are '''still''' being mixed up; which is part of the problem. Jiraiya(and Orochimaru) may be '''a''' Sennin, but he is not '''a''' Sannin. It's a very simple matter, which is why I couldn't help but scratch my head when the correction was reverted. —[[User:SaiST|'''SaiST''']] <sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px]]「[[User Talk:SaiST|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/SaiST|contrib]]」</sup> 03:03, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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== Yin–Yang Release? ==
   
::: Oh boy, I can see this is going to be a long one. *sigh* Look, the translations aren't wrong, and you're making a big deal out of something that shouldn't be. There are three Sannin, which indeed means "Three Ninja". Orochimrau, Tsunade, and Jiraiya. Any one of those three are still a Sannin. They have always been referred to as such. When Jiraiya was introduced (I have the Viz, I have read the scanalations, and I'm sure we still have ShonenSuki's translation of the RAW Japanese around here somewhere), he is introduced as one of the "three Sannin". So is Tsunade, at one point in time, and I believe even Orochimaru was referred to as "a Sannin". We won't change the term because it means "Three Ninja". It could mean "Ten-Million Ninja" for all we care. It is the name of a group, as well as the title of its three members. Therefore, they are "Sannin", both collectively and individually. I'll say it again, arguing over a specific term gets us nowhere. It doesn't matter if its grammatically correct or not, that is how the series refers to them, that is how the fans refer to them, and that is how ''we'' refer to them. Its as simple as that. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 04:09, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
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"It states that Naruto was able to perfectly demonstrate the power of Yin-Yang Release after obtaining Hagoromo's power. The panel this caption goes with is the one in which Naruto is trying to explain to Sakura how he created Kakashi's new left eye, meaning he used Yin-Yang Release to create it, not just Yang Release to "regenerate" it."
:::: '''Additionally''': The reason your edit seems long winded to me is that most of it was taking time to describe the Mangekyō Sharingan's shape, which I believe, if I remember the Undo correctly, you called an "atom symbol", which is actually less descriptive and more speculative than what we have now. Also, I'm not disputing the fact that your edit was done to make an improvement, but the way we have it now is fine. It lays it out in a flowing order, which is easy to understand, isn't convoluted, and does exactly what the section is intended to do; describe Sasuke's ability. The phrase, "''If it ain't broken, don't fix it''" comes to mind. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 04:14, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Very well. My grammar police badge seethes, but you can consider the Sannin matter dropped. Same with the revision, though I'd just like to say that, along with a few other extraneous details, I '''did''' omit the mention of his Mangekyō Sharingan's atom resemblance after that Undo; it was something I placed in the description of it's [[Mangekyō Sharingan#Sasuke Uchiha|dedicated article]] beforehand, and decided it would be better left there. Anyways, thank you both for taking the time to explain your side of things. I shall now proceed to find a corner for myself to fiercely pout in. >:I —[[User:SaiST|'''SaiST''']] <sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px]]「[[User Talk:SaiST|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/SaiST|contrib]]」</sup> 14:10, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
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The Databook mentions Sasuke? Or that Hagoromo's power grants Yin-Yang Release in general? [[User:Daidarabotchi|Daidarabotchi]] ([[User talk:Daidarabotchi|talk]]) 00:04, July 10, 2015 (UTC)
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:Databook states that those "touched by Hagoromo" have Yin-Yang Release.
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:{{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 00:05, July 10, 2015 (UTC)
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Interesting... Some source? [[User:Daidarabotchi|Daidarabotchi]] ([[User talk:Daidarabotchi|talk]]) 00:10, July 10, 2015 (UTC)
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:The databook? :| • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 00:38, July 10, 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you guys! [[User:Daidarabotchi|Daidarabotchi]] ([[User talk:Daidarabotchi|talk]]) 00:45, July 10, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Sasuke's Age ==
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== Animal Path? Asura Path? Human Path? NARAKA PATH?! ==
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There is NO confirmation that Sasuke has these abilities. Just because he has the Rinnegan does ''not'' mean he can use them. He doesn't even show a single trait of their use! Don't sit here and tell me 'Oh. All Rinnegan users have the ability, though!' No they do not! Does it say this in a Databook? Am I mistaken? He never uses the abilities, so they shouldn't be in his Jutsu panel. Just because Madara, Nagato, Obito, and Hagoromo show it, doesn't mean Sasuke has the ability. I've seen this same type of argument on multiple different forums, and each time, the same people are involved. And, each time, it's 'Oh. They didn't show the ability and it wasn't even in the Databook.' that is triumphant. Why the heck is this any different? It's not in the Databook. It isn't shown in the Manga. Don't assume something like this. --[[Username:ExyleCage]] ExyleCageWasHere 21:28, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:Alright… Calm down. Sasuke's usage of Chibaku Tensei and Preta Path shows that he can use the [[Six Paths Technique]].--[[User talk:JOA20|JOA<sup>20</sup>]]21:31, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::I apologize. Sometimes I go overboard. But the point of this is, the Six Paths Technique was never even confirmed to be an actual Technique. It's just a reference to being able to use all 6 (7, when counting the Out Path) Paths of the Rinnegan. But Sasuke only shows the usage of 2 Paths; the Deva and the Preta. In no way does that mean he can use the other ones. Don't you think he would have made use of ''at'' ''least'' the Asura Path in his fight with Naruto? I don't know about ''you'', but I woulda used the 4 extra arms to my advantage at some point. Hell, that ''really'' could've been a game changer. I mean, a Chidori ''really'' could've done quite a bit of damage if used with 6 arms. My point is, he used ''2'' Paths. If he had used 1 more, we could pretty much ''confirm'' he could use all 6. But he doesn't. Meaning they shouldn't be in his file. --[[User:ExyleCage]] ExyleCageWasHere 21:45, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::The fact that it's called the Six Paths '''''Technique''''' makes me think it's an actual technique. And about Sasuke's usage, well, same goes for Obito and Madara: only Nagato used all the Paths, the others – even true Rinnegan wielders – didn't. But it's ridiculous to say that Madara couldn't use the powers Nagato displayed through the former's eyes, and Obito was taught the Six Paths Technique from Madara himself. To put it simply: if one can use a Path, one has access to the Six Paths Technique, that's all.--[[User talk:JOA20|JOA<sup>20</sup>]]21:50, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::When the hell did the manga ever even give it that name? Are we assuming it was its name? Or was it really given the name? And I wasn't saying Sasuke would '''''never''''' learn it. I was saying that he hasn't displayed the other ones. Hence why it should not be in his files. At least, not yet, that is.--[[User:ExyleCage]] ExyleCageWasHere 21:54, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Chapter 606, page 15. Sasuke didn't learn Chibaku Tensei and Preta Path either, just pulled them out of his butt like nothing. The point here is, we don't list Sasuke as a user of the techniques, just of the Paths, as having the Rinnegan automatically grants them (heck, it's even called the "Eye of the Six Paths").--[[User talk:JOA20|JOA<sup>20</sup>]]22:00, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::He didn't necessarily 'pull them out of his butt'. He saw Madara use them, didn't he?--[[User:ExyleCage]] ExyleCageWasHere 22:10, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Doesn't matter if he hasn't shown it. The Rinnegan grants the user access to the [[Six Paths Technique]], which consists of all the paths, including the ones you're questioning. Just how it is.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 22:13, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Well, you just raised more questions for me, but, whatever. I guess everyone can just live with an unconfirmed technique. No skin off my bones.--[[User:ExyleCage]]--ExyleCageWasHere 22:16, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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I think every Rinnegan user has access to six paths, but not their derived techniques, as you can see we don't list Basho Tenin or Shinra Tensei to Obito, Sasuke. But we list the paths it is usual for all, even for Hagoromo it is automatically unlocked to whoever has Rinnegan.--[[User:Mecha Naruto|Mecha Naruto]] ([[User talk:Mecha Naruto|talk]]) 22:23, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::The idea that Deva, Asura, and so on are all part of a single "Six Paths Technique" is inherently flawed. Chapter 606 does not define what the "''Rikudō no Jutsu''" actually is any more than it explains what [[Will Materialisation|this]] is, how Yin–Yang was supposedly used to create the Zetsu, or how the black rods are supposed to be used with said Rikudō no Jutsu. It's probably the least explained chapter in the whole manga, so I've never understood why the wiki assumes that the "Rikudō no Jutsu" must refer to the various techniques used by Pain. For all we know, Madara could have simply meant he'll teach "Rikudō's jutsu" (as in Hagoromo's techniques) or any other number of things. All that said, chapter 449 confirmed that the Rinnegan grants all of the powers used by Pain, but we don't automatically list everybody with a Sharingan as a Genjutsu: Sharingan user, and that is also an inherent power of the eye.--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 22:40, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::::That's an interesting point you make, and would've been more valid had Sasuke not pulled Chibaku Tensei and Preta Path out of his ass. He performed them without any training. Turns out Genjutsu: Sharingan, while an inherent power of the eye, is still something that has to be gained through some kind of training. And regarding Chapter 449, well, you reiterated my point. These paths and the Rinnegan is still a package deal.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 22:47, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::::It isn't as though you instantly and automatically obtain the six powers though. Nagato trained with Jiraiya for three years but didn't use any of the Six Paths powers until sometime after their training ended. Sure, Sasuke has the potential to use them all but it's possible he's never actually activated any of them except Deva and Preta. Just like Obito had both Mangekyō but didn't actually use Susanoo, so we don't consider him a user.--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 22:54, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::::::Not really a fan of the Nagato example, because for a long time he wasn't even aware of it until he took down that Iwagakure chūnin, unless I'm remembering that wrong, but point taken. As for Sasuke, his advanced use of the Deva & Preta Paths kinda proves that it does come automatically. Unlike Nagato, he had NO prior training with it. It was brand new. None of us can answer why Sasuke didn't use the others, but we can't deny that he has access to them all, and that alone is enough to leave it be as far as these paths are concerned. It's not like we're listing the derivatives anyway, most of which anyone can easily argue Sasuke has access to. The paths are all part of the origin of the [[Six Paths Technique]], which is bestowed to anyone wielding the Rinnegan. That's my understading anyway.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 23:13, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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I think we all agree Sasuke could use the other four powers if he really wanted to, the question is just whether they should be included in his infobox or not. Personally, I think it could simply be noted in his Rinnegan section that he can potentially use all six paths, but left out of the infoboxes to avoid cluttering them. The same goes for a lot of "parent techniques" and such that characters didn't explicitly use, but I guess that's all part of a larger discussion not suited for Sasuke's talk page.--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 23:38, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:My issue is that I know he HAS them, but he doesn't ''have'' them. Does that make sense? What I mean is, he unlocked them with the Rinnegan, but has no idea that he ''did''. I mean, he saw both Obito and Madara use the Deva Path, and I'm pretty sure he saw Madara use the Preta Path, so he knew he could use them. But, since he didn't see the other paths in use, he ''can't'' use them. See what I'm saying? Maybe in the new movie, he'll see the other Rinnegan users use the Techniques and learn them. But, until then, it is not going to be considered ''his'' ability to use them, as we have no proof as of yet. We're making the assumption that he can use them but he can't. Hell, if we're gonna say he can, then I might as well go say that Asura can use the Six Paths Sage Mode, because it's ''obvious'' he can. But the logic everyone is using for Sasuke, we can do this for every other character who has something related.--[[User:ExyleCage]] ExyleCageWasHere 00:08, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
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Except, Nagato used them all without ever seeing another Rinnegan user use them. Which proves that the paths come with all Rinnegan. Hagoromo was born with Rinnegan, he has the Six Paths Technique, Madara awakened it many years later. Madara has it, he gave it to Nagato, Nagato has it. Obito could use some of it's abilities as well, but not most of them since it drained so much of his chakra and took a huge toll on him. Sasuke awakened his right after Hagoromo gave him his chakra, Sasuke then uses two of it's abilities, and it's stated that his Rinnegan wasn't fully developed, which was probably the reason he didn't use the others. Honestly, this argument doesn't make much sense at all. All of the other original Rinnegan users have this technique, but Sasuke doesn't, just because he hasn't used them all yet? Even though he already used two of them? When his Rinnegan was brand new and not mature yet? What? Also, it isn't obvious that Asura can use Six Paths Sage Mode, since he would need Six Paths Chakra to use that, which he has never been stated to have at all. --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 01:31, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
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:How long did Nagato have his Rinnegan for? Sasuke had it for 10 seconds. Nagato had it from a young age and it took him years to find out a lot of the abilities. Your 'proof' was debunked the moment you said Nagato learned it himself. Why? Because he had it much longer than Sasuke did. In fact, besides Hagoromo, he's the single longest living user of the Rinnegan in history. Madara awakened it near his death before he switched it over to Nagato. How the hell can you say it comes with it when he had more time to learn how to use it than almost every other character in the series? It doesn't prove crap. And you literally just proved my point by saying what you did about Asura. Sasuke was never stated to have had the other 4 (5) paths. You literally just proved me right. Why the hell is everyone in the mindset that it was proven? Hell, it could have even all been given to Madara and Obito just because of how long Nagato had the eyes. The abilities literally could've all come from the eyes themselves.--[[User:ExyleCage]] ExyleCageWasHere 01:45, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
   
I know 643 is hasn't been added to the wikia yet, but when it is should we change Sasuke's age in Part II to 15-17? Naruto said he was 16 during his fight with Pain, and Obito said tomorrow in 643 is Naruto's birthday, meaning Naruto will be turning 17 tomorrow. If that is the case, Sasuke, who was born before him, should be 17 already right? [[User:Omega64|Omega64]] ([[User talk:Omega64|talk]]) 06:44, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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I'll just satisfy all of us by using a footnote in the Trivia section saying that, while he has the ability to use them, he doesn't show any use as of yet.--[[User:ExyleCage]]ExyleCageWasHere 01:58, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
:Yes that is true but "Do not add new information if the manga chapter is not fully released yet." So yes as you thought, we should wait until the chaoter is fully released and added to the wiki. {{User:Rainbow Shifter/sig}} 07:05, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
::We should update ages of all characters with known birthdays using Naruto's birthday as a template--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:41, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::But we cannot add it if the chapter in which Naruto's birthday is has not been fully released yet. {{User:Rainbow Shifter/sig}} 12:45, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::I mean once it's out. I brought this up many times but some people oppose for whatever senile reason they have. If we know x character has birthday 10th October and has another birthday, we know EVERY SINGLE character born before the date has aged as well.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:01, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
That would be nearly everyone. Hinata, Lee, Sai and some others excluded. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau ]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 13:12, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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Him having it longer doesn't change the fact that he later learned how to use all of it's abilities on his own instinctively. He had no training from anyone at all, meaning it already had those abilities. Sasuke hasn't been stated to have the other paths, but since he has the Rinnegan, he automatically has them. That's how the Six Paths Technique works, all Rinnegan users get those abilities, they all have demonstrated either all or some of the same abilities. There is literally no reason to believe Sasuke doesn't have them other than him not using all of it's abilities when having a newborn Rinnegan, which is ridiculous. --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 02:47, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
:Sounds like lots of work for sure, but leaving it not-updated will cause trouble. Like people will think there's more age difference between Naruto and x other character, if we change his to 17 but keep everyone else' the same--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:25, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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:Are you even reading the discussion? I said he didn't know how to use them! I never said he didn't have them! I just meant that he didn't have the ability to use them at the time because he didn't have a properly mature Rinnegan, meaning they would have taxed his body too much. I never made, nor implied, that he couldn't do it! I said he didn't have the ability as of yet! And it IS justified, NOT ridiculous, because extra mechanized arms would have been ''pretty'' damn useful at the time of the fight with '''both''' Kaguya ''and'' Naruto. 4 arms to hold the opponent down while using 2 for Chidori or some other attack would have been a really useful ability. But, again, I am more so on the side that he ''did'' have them, but there is no proof he could do so at the time. Though, now that I think about it, it could have been that he was already extremely taxed over the initial fight with Kabuto and Madara. Either way, he didn't use it. I hate to say this, but it shouldn't be in his file.--[[User:ExyleCage]]ExyleCageWasHere 03:06, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
::I still don't know if it's a good idea to give ages without databook sources, though. :/ [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau ]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 13:26, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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Well of course there is no proof that he could use them at the time, I'm not saying that Sasuke could use them at the time. He just didn't know how too or couldn't use them all at the time because his Rinnegan was new. But he still possess the ability to use them is what I'm saying which is why he should be listed. Currently, Sasuke is in his early 30s and fully grown with his Rinnegan fully maturing and capable of even traversing dimensions. There's no doubt that he can use all of it's basic abilities now just fine but chooses not too or hasn't had a need too yet. --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 03:13, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
:::I don't know why it shouldn't be while we know it's correct. We may be waiting for 4th databook to come out after another timeskip for all we know or never.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:31, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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:Oh. Okay. Sorry about that. I thought that YOU thought I meant that Sasuke would never learn the abilities. I understand your point, now. I'm sorry for this whole thing. I'm also sorry I started to lose my temper. I really hope there are no hard feelings.--[[User:ExyleXage]]ExyleCageWasHere
::::Because it's against me idea of what should be added to an article and what should not. But on the other hand, it's logical to add it, since Naruto's birthday is Year 0 and even my whole timeline is based on it... How old was Neji when he died? [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 13:36, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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It's fine, I don't get upset that easily, there aren't any hard feelings and I'm not upset at all. --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 03:26, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
   
::: I'm of the same mind as Seen for one reason. ''If'' we change ''everyone's'' ages and then, the databook comes out and somehow we're wrong, then, not only have we been misinforming the users/readers, as you seem to be so concerned of doing now, Elve-kun, but we also have to go back and change them all over again. To me, it makes more sense to use databooks (sans, obviously, Naruto whom "tomorrow" in the manga, we know for sure he's 17) because they give you a straight up age. [Character name] is [this many years old]. There will be no need for us to guess, assume, hope, etc. And a databook is likely to come out. Its not like Kishi is just gonna make three and then go "lol, nope. They're gonna have to suffer through without this one." He'll at least make one more. Since it seems the manga is wrapping up, he may be waiting until closer to the end, or after the end to wrap things up and tie up any remaining loose endings. Then we'd have everyone's definite, final ages. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 13:38, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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You gotta admit, though. Sasuke using the Asura and Outer Paths would be freakin awesome.--[[User:ExyleCage]]ExyleCageWasHere
::::There's no way for us to be wrong though, unless Kishimoto has changed birth dates of hundreds of characters. This is children logic and math here, no way to burn ourselves. The thing is, not updating their ages is misinforming as well. Sasuke is older than Naruto, but if we update just the latter's, that will make us lying that it's the other way around. Goes for everyone, let's say Naruto was 3 years older than x character according to 3rd databook, yet a year later, he is suddenly 5 years older, right, that's not misinforming and purposely leaving out information--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:46, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
:::: Elve, I'm saying its going to make for one big heck of a headache if we just start changing ages. Especially for these anons, like the one on Itachi's page, that think the ages are wrong already. Now all of a sudden we're trying to guess ages, and pray to God we're right, when we only know Sasuke and Naruto for sure (I'll give you Sasuke since we saw him as infant prior to Naruto's birth). It would make more sense to go off a concrete source, like a databook, rather than change everyone's ages and pray to all that is good and holy that we did something right. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 13:53, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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== Uchiha Clan ==
   
"tear drop" I'm not saying otherwise, we can go by 3rd databook's ages and just add 1 year to everyone born prior to October 10--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:56, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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The only Members of the Uchiha are Sakura, Sarada and Sasuke himself, wouldnt that make him the Clan head, since Sarada is a child and Sakura only being married into the Clan??--[[User:Keeptfighting|Keeptfighting]] ([[User talk:Keeptfighting|talk]]) 05:29, July 17, 2015 (UTC)
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:Technically,yes.But he hasn't really been around to manage what's left of his clan.--[[User:Vacent|Vacent]] ([[User talk:Vacent|talk]]) 13:44, July 17, 2015 (UTC)
   
Bump, this one seriously needs concludin' --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:38, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
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== .... ==
   
::I rather comment on this one than the other one. Since Kishimoto isn't that good with math, I believed he mentioned that, maybe the characters' ages are 16 - 17 instead of 15 - 16. If we put 15 - 17, than those just joining/visiting the wiki, will be confused and believe that their is another timeskip that we aren't covering. Maybe we could put "16 - 17." --[[User:KiumaruHamachi|KiumaruHamachi]] ([[User talk:KiumaruHamachi|talk]]) 18:38, August 24, 2013 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
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Why is my thing getting roll backed? I'm just trying to contribute on this wiki but its like I can't do anything. All I put was "He showed genuine affection towards her, by tapping her on her forehead (like his brother did to him as a child), before he left to explore the world to seek redemption for himself. His affection for Sakura, later led him to finally giving her a chance, and entering a relationship with her. The two eventually got married, and had a daughter together. Whats the matter with that? Its just a wiki, people should be free to contribute and its not like what I said was wrong, so whats the problem? :/ ([[User:O0o0o0ox|O0o0o0ox]] ([[User talk:O0o0o0ox|talk]]) 03:58, July 30, 2015 (UTC))
   
== Age ==
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Please have a look at the history, and review your edits. I already replied to your question on your talk page. Basically, your edits are getting reverted because you are also completely messing up the pages.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 04:00, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
   
According to chapter 643, Naruto's birthday is the next day. Since Sasuke is a few months older than Naruto, isn't Sasuke already 17? --''Kakashi Namikaze'' (retired) - [[User talk:Kakashi Namikaze|talk]] 17:20, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
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I've seen this before. This appears to be a known bug of the visual editor, which O0o0o0ox's edits are tagged with. Try making your edit using the regular source mode editor. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 04:03, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
:Yes.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:53, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
::So should it be added? I will go ahead and do it. And shouldn't Naruto's be added if this is the case, seeming as the whole chapter is now out. {{User:Rainbow Shifter/sig}} 18:19, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::What and why?''' ~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 18:23, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Well we now know Sasuke and Naruto are 17 according to this chapter... Therefore should it be added to the infobox? {{User:Rainbow Shifter/sig}} 18:32, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::More precisely, we know it's October 10th in Narutoverse.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:41, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::Same thing. {{User:Rainbow Shifter/sig}} 19:09, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Unless we're only getting the age from databooks, I see no problem with adding it. [[User_Talk:Joshbl56|<span style="color:#3EB489;">Joshbl</span>]][[User:Joshbl56|<span style="color:#4BD8A5;">56</span>]] 20:21, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
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I did it with the source editor this time. So it shouldn't get roll backed. If there is still a problem, let me know why, please. ([[User:O0o0o0ox|O0o0o0ox]] ([[User talk:O0o0o0ox|talk]]) 19:58, July 30, 2015 (UTC))
: Agreed as to Naruto and Sasuke; but only when the chapter comes out for the "next day" in the manga world. As currently, its the night of October 9th; so only Sasuke is 17. Any other characters, leave their ages alone until a databook comes out. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 20:54, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Technically, knowing the date and the age of one character, it does mean he can stipulate the age of some other characters. Pretty much every one from Naruto's year can have their age updated if necessary, every person who we know the age difference from Naruto and the birthday can have it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:47, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::^That is true. Just a quick check shows that most of the rookie 9 and team Guy could have their age updated if we do this. [[User_Talk:Joshbl56|<span style="color:#3EB489;">Joshbl</span>]][[User:Joshbl56|<span style="color:#4BD8A5;">56</span>]] 23:45, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::: @Omni: I know that. I'm not saying Elve is wrong, I actually agree that several characters have aged. I'm just ''really'' wanting to be cautious about tampering with ages. Especially since lately, the number of anon we've had around here trying to change ages (Itachi's being prime example) based of some absurd forum conjecture has been high lately and its likely to start those debates all over again. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 00:38, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::You're right. The thing is, I raised Sasuke in particular because Kushina's flashback confirmed that Sasuke was born before Naruto, so that is a given. But consistency too is important. --[[User:Kakashi Namikaze|Kakashi Namikaze]] - [[User talk:Kakashi Namikaze|talk]] 14:11, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
So when the chapter comes out are they going to be alot more edits dones to different characters apart from the konoha 11 then? --[[User:ROOT 根|<span style="color:lime;">Root</span>]][[User_talk:ROOT 根|<span style="color:lawngreen;">根</span>]] 09:45, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Bump--[[User:ROOT 根|<span style="color:lime;">Root</span>]][[User_talk:ROOT 根|<span style="color:lawngreen;">根</span>]] 17:59, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Adding/Changing Images ==
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Hi. I have two images from episode 326 that I would like to add to Sasuke Uchiha, but I can't for some reason. They are the anime versions of his New Susano'o and Eternal Mangekyo. Would someone help me out here please. --[[User:LokeTheBrave|LokeTheBrave]] ([[User talk:LokeTheBrave|talk]]) 15:18, August 22, 2013 (UTC)LokeTheBrave
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Why does it say Sasuke is smiling? "Sasuke is then seen sitting on a rooftop with Sakura, both smiling, as they watch Boruto, Sarada, and Mitsuki, hinting that his mission is finally over and he officially returns to Konoha." He isn't smiling here: http://imgur.com/BuL18Ws ([[User:AcMiillanFan|AcMiillanFan]] ([[User talk:AcMiillanFan|talk]]) 17:59, August 9, 2015 (UTC))
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:Was a talk section necessary? Go edit it--[[User:Vacent|Vacent]] ([[User talk:Vacent|talk]]) 18:15, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
   
:Those images have already been uploaded added to the page.... --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:01, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
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== Sword of Kusanagi ==
   
::Thats odd, I didn't see them when I checked earlier. Thanks though.--[[User:LokeTheBrave|LokeTheBrave]] ([[User talk:LokeTheBrave|talk]]) 16:16, August 22, 2013 (UTC)LokeTheBrave
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[http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=54148604&postcount=183]
   
== EMS image ==
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According to the Boruto movie guidebook Sasuke's "new sword" is the Kusanagi.--[[User:Vacent|Vacent]] ([[User talk:Vacent|talk]]) 12:33, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
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:...so? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:34, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
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::So edits need to be made.I would do it if I weren't on mobile. --[[User:Vacent|Vacent]] ([[User talk:Vacent|talk]]) 12:37, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
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:::What edits? His sword always was a Kusanagi. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:41, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Jesus....His appearance profile states he has a different sword. The "Sword of Kusanagi" page makes no mention of its current appearance.And the section that talks about Sasuke’s Kenjutsu makes no mention of the qualities this sword possess in its new form.--[[User:Vacent|Vacent]] ([[User talk:Vacent|talk]]) 12:46, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Oh, so the article is missing information, lol. Well yes, it was always called Kusanagi, no idea why that was never added. Probably because "hurrdurr, it's nut Oruchimaro's sword". • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:51, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::[[Sword of Kusanagi (Sasuke Uchiha)]]. Unless for some reason the sword was not referred to as such in this article, it was always called such. Got it's own little article and everything.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:57, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::::Thought so, hence my initial confusion. :x • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:59, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
   
I think it'd be better to use the manga photo until we have a better anime shot of his eye, wouldn't it? The old one shows the design up close, but now we have the same problem as the photo of Madara's Rinnegan, in that it isn't so much a photo of the eyes, but rather a photo of his face while he happens to have the eyes active. Thoughts? --[[User:M4ND0N|M4ND0N]] ([[User talk:M4ND0N|talk]]) 18:42, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
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I don't understand what's so confusing.As I said about his appearance section "He is also shown wielding a new sword". For tools he has "sword" & "Sword of Kusanagi" listed, the former was added after chapter 700 because people assumed it wasn't Kusanagi. Furthermore, the section pertaining to his Kenjutsu needs editing as it doesn't describe the current appearance. Fast forward to the page actually pertaining to the sword, and there is no mention of it's current appearance there either.--[[User:Vacent|Vacent]] ([[User talk:Vacent|talk]]) 13:11, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
   
:I doubt a better shot is going to come up for some time yet. I'd say keep the anime image that's there and, if an alternative that shows the EMS better comes up, switch them out. Just how we switch out manga images when anime images become available that depict whatever. Plus, if people can't see the image clearly, they can just click it and view it in the lightbox. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:48, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
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:Perhaps because you were not completely clear and just said "His new sword is Kusanagi". Not much to go on. Anywho, the appearance if the sword doesn't need to go under kenjutsu (and if the old swords appearance does, it shouldn't be there either) and I did edit it to refer to his new sword in Boruto as "a new Blade of Kusanagi". If the actual appearance (or some such) is missing someone else will have to add that as I have yet to see this film.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:17, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
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::Thanks very much :) --[[User:Vacent|Vacent]] ([[User talk:Vacent|talk]]) 13:19, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
   
::I would like to point out that having a "photo of the face with the eyes activated" is actually very good as a character article. If an image is needed for the design in their eye, then the overview page with it's gallery does nicely.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:01, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
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== Sasuke's Dimensional Portal Technique (again) ==
   
Not if you can barely see the eyes and it's mostly their face. The manga image was perfect because the panel it was ripped from was used in a similar manner to his Sharingan and Mangekyo Sharingan images. Simply having color isn't a good enough reason to change it imo, especially when the artwork on the anime photo is cheaply done and in my eyes at least, bad. [no pun intended]. But it's your call, I'm just saying the manga photo did it's job to show Sasuke's EMS, and did it better if what we're looking for is an actual photo of the eye itself and not a zoomed out photo of his face where you can barely see said eye unless you click on the image. --[[User:M4ND0N|M4ND0N]] ([[User talk:M4ND0N|talk]]) 20:10, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
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Sorry for bringing this up once again (especially to you, Seel), but with the release of the film and novel, I think it may be time to talk about this once again. Usually this wouldn't be too big of a deal, but since a few different articles post contradictory information, it's worth mentioning. On some articles, Sasuke's dimension traveling ability is considered Amenotejikara, while it is classified as an unknown technique on others. Therefore, what consensus should we come to?
   
I don't see a problem with the picture. I can see it just fine.--[[User:LokeTheBrave|LokeTheBrave]] ([[User talk:LokeTheBrave|talk]]) 21:39, August 22, 2013 (UTC)LokeTheBrave
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Despite the confusion, I'm not bringing nothing here to help come to a decision. I've done as much research possible, and have come up with a few different solutions. First and foremost, it should be noted that most of the fan base is conflicted on what this technique could be. I've asked a few people who saw the film, and they even said that they're not exactly sure what it is. They say it looks almost like a combination of Kamui and Yomotsu Hirasaka. And while this definitely shouldn't be considered a legitimate source, [http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=54195421&postcount=11 here is a fan-drawing of what the technique supposedly looks like.]
   
You could see Sasuke's Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan just fine before without enlarging the image. Even then, I'd still argue that the anime's depiction was sub-par. The prior image was also more fitting as a side-by-side comparison to Sasuke's old Mangekyō Sharingan. I also believe the prior manga image should be retained until we get a more appropriate image from teh anime. —「[[User Talk:SaiST|'''SaiST''']]」<sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px|link=Special:Contributions/SaiST]]</sup> 00:02, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
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Most say it is definitely not Amenotejikara because it does not display any of the common traits associated with that technique. Some say that it could be Kamui because of how similar the two look, but it doesn't make sense how Sasuke would have acquired that technique. Also, Kamui is a Mangekyo Sharingan technique, and it's obvious that Sasuke is using a Rinnegan ability. Some also say it is Yomotsu Hirasaka, as the characteristics are similar, though the appearance is slightly different.
   
If we need an anime image that much couldn't we use the depiction of the scene from opening 12? I'm sure there's a creditless version and the artwork is superior to the episode counterpart. I'm not sure how it bodes for our policies but if that's not an option I agree, the manga image is better for now. --[[User:M4ND0N|M4ND0N]] ([[User talk:M4ND0N|talk]]) 02:40, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
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In my opinion, I believe the best course of action would be to simply consider this an unknown technique, and create a new article for this technique. The best example of when this was done in the past is [[Shin Uchiha's Space–Time Dōjutsu]]. In reality, this situation is almost exactly the same as that one- where the technique had similar elements of previous abilities, but it was not clear if they were the same. So we decided to create a new article until new information became available. If we want to wait for the film to be released so that we have an image, that is fine. But I just think this is the best course of action. What do you think?
:I don't think we'd be allowed to use that M4ND0N but it would be good if we could --[[User:ROOT 根|<span style="color:lime;">Root</span>]][[User_talk:ROOT 根|<span style="color:lawngreen;">根</span>]] 17:58, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
::What ROOT 根 said. Images taken from the credits do not count and are not allowed. The anime photo stays because, like TU3 said, the picture is fine for the page. An image showing the actual design of the EMS belongs on the MS page in the gallery. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 19:45, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Episode 326 ==
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And though it's kind of unrelated (though also related in a way since Sasuke has been traveling to Kaguya's dimensions), are we going to create a new article for Momoshiki's dimension where the final battle occurred? Unless I'm wrong, this is an entirely new dimension and not one of the original six that belonged to Kaguya.--[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 05:24, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
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:Bump--[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 15:44, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
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:: I have taken the liberty of creating [[Sasuke Uchiha's Space–Time Dōjutsu|an article]] to show you of what I was trying to explain beforehand. Whether or not it stays this way or is deleted all together is still up for discussion, but hopefully this may become an incentive of how to handle this. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 00:40, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
I believe the animators did three things wrong in this episode. First mistake, I'm glad they finally showed Sasuke but he shouldn't have been shown until the end possibly because in the manga when Kishimoto finally revealed his Eternal Mangekyo it was at the end of a chapter. Second Mistake is that Sasuke shouldn't have left the hideout this early I don't think, it was much later in the manga when he left it. Final mistake, when he left the hideout his eyes were black, but in the original colored manga page they were Sharingan. Has anyone noticed these mistakes? If so comment and let me know if you agree or disagree. I really dislike the idea of the animators making such obvious mistakes like that. --[[User:LokeTheBrave|LokeTheBrave]] ([[User talk:LokeTheBrave|talk]]) 04:39, August 23, 2013 (UTC)LokeTheBrave
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== Classification ==
:Pretty much sure that [[Anime-Manga Differences|anime does not strictly follow manga]].''' ~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 04:59, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
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::Majority of it does though. Excluding the fillers. They never follow the manga.--[[User:LokeTheBrave|LokeTheBrave]] ([[User talk:LokeTheBrave|talk]]) 05:03, August 23, 2013 (UTC)LokeTheBrave
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Granted that he is no longer a missing-nin, is everyone okay with adding the "former" tag to it? I think it would help to make the information in his (and others' infoboxes) more discernible at a glance.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:47, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
:::It's just simple animation errors... --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 07:50, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
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:My impression was we do "former" no longer.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 16:03, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
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::I wouldn't mind really, but as Elve said, that isn't something we do anymore. Snapper's the only one who's made that known to my knowledge though.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Uzushiogakure Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 17:33, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Yeah I also thought we don't use (Former) because we are supposed to represent the entire series as a whole, like how we don't add Former-Jinchuriki to Gaara.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:25, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
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::::And yet we put past things in past tense. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:36, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::I always write the stuff in present tense, but then within an hour ''somebody'' comes along and starts changing it to past. Like most of life's problems, this is other peoples' faults.
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:::::The [[writing policy]] can't make up its mind about it either. It says, "Articles are meant to be read not by people up to date with the latest manga," yet also says, "Events timeline on character articles should be written in the third person past tense."
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:::::Generally speaking, fiction is supposed to always be written of in present tense if ever the piece of information was "current". '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 16:32, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
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Because the [[Narutopedia:Manual_of_Style#Writing_style|Manual of Style prefers past tense]]? {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 17:23, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
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:It's usually the manual of style that I follow but we should probably see about correcting that. On a sidenote, I was talking about character's infoboxes and not article content. I'm pretty sure there is no way to write "missing-nin" in past tense...--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 09:58, August 29, 2015 (UTC)
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I was thinking.. it may be tedious and/or impossible. But what if there was 3 infoboxes and they worked on tabs, like the way the profile pics have a tab for each part of the series such as Part 1, Part 2, Epilogue? In the epilogue tab you could remove missing nin from his page. This way we can also remove abilities and other info that no longer exists or is present for each time period of the character. Sounds like a great idea to me.. but is it even possible? [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 11:26, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

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Rinnegan Tomoe Edit

According to Naruto Gaiden 700+8, the tomoe of Sasuke's Rinnegan appear when he's at full power and when he's drained, he loses them...but he was able to use Amenotejikara while it was a "regular" Rinnegan. What?

Can we all agree on something before it's added and starts an editing war? --Jizo 悟 (talk) 05:57, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

He may have mastered Amenotejikara to a point where he didn't need to use too much chakra. For more grandiose techniques such as maybe the Six Paths Technique and its variants, yeah, he might need the full power of the Rinnegan. WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 06:04, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

We know that his Mangekyo was supposed to be his EMS(art error in this chapter), but it is confirmed he has a normal Rinnegan but it is powered up basically 2 Rinnegan in one with his Left EMS Powers put into it adding 6 tomoe to it, when he overuses it, it's back to a normal tomoe-less Rinnegan and we didn't know this before because he simply closed his eyes before. Btw, DB4 says Amenotejikara is a Rinnegan tech regardless, it seems it is just his personal tech, like Madaras personal tech is Limbo QuakingStar (talk) 06:08, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

It's also possible he could only teleport with the tomoe Rinnegan, and when it reverted to its original Rinnegan form he had to wait to regain chakra before transforming it, again. He didn't say he used the normal Rinnegan form to teleport. Diamonddeath (talk) 07:11, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Healing Power Edit

There seems to be confusion on whether Sasuke has Hashirama's cells or not. Even if he doesn't have his arm, would he not still have his cells due to Kabuto implanting them into him when healing him? Also, if you're going to say that Kabuto didn't implant the cells into him but used his "study" of the cells to help him then can you link the chapter please? Cause that doesn't make any sense. How does the study of Hashirama's super cells help Kabuto heal Sasuke faster? Would it not make sense for him to be implanting Hashirama's cells into him? --Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 (talk) 17:45, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

Well thing is that it actially creates even more mess that we have already, Kabuto implanting Hashirama cells(instead of using knowledge) into Sasuke means that Kabuto himself had them. As we know implanting Hashirama cells is very hard to achive(considering Yamato is sole survivor and Danzo needed Shin's hand) while i ready to buy that Sasuke is able to "acept" them(as Madara did) i doubt that Kabuto is can do the same. Moreover in fight with Itachi and Sasuke, Kabuto stated that his healing power stems from Karin, if had Hashi cells why did not he mention it as better source? ./ Rage gtx (talk) 18:03, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
You don't need the cells in your own body to apply them to another body, lol • Seelentau 愛 18:16, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
So snake-hose was not from Kabuto's body?And i didn't see anything that even remotely resembles any equipment(medical for this matter) near Kabuto. ./ Rage gtx (talk) 18:20, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
No idea, but he said he used them, not the he himself possessed them. • Seelentau 愛 18:21, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it's quite possible that Kabuto simply carried Hashirama's cells and later implanted them into Sasuke. What I'm trying to say though, is if the translation of that chapter is correct, then Sasuke certainly has Hashirama's cells, then he has the healing power doesn't he? That should settle the whole editing war going on on the Healing Power page ya think? --Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 (talk) 21:47, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

Well i don't know considering amout of cells that need to heal pierced heart is minimal i don't even think it can work with him. Anyway i think we must list only people who actually displayed this feat and exclude Jugo, Yamato, Sasuke, Naruto who didn't show it. ./ Rage gtx (talk) 23:09, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

Animated Rinnegan Pic (Boruto trailer)? Edit

I can add it, but didn't want to do anything without consensus.--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 03:15, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

I was gonna upload it but it didn't show all 6 tomoe fully. I'd wait a couple of weeks for the anime but thats just my opinion. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 03:39, June 25, 2015 (UTC)
It's cool. The current picture is a really good one after all.--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 04:37, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Part 2 picture Edit

I think his part two picture should be changed to one of these: http://imgur.com/7Nx32Tl http://imgur.com/aEfR5r8 http://imgur.com/91Y4QGN

(Clear Waters (talk) 19:17, June 28, 2015 (UTC))

I'm fine with the current one, as other people are. Besides the first image has lightning streaks and a curse mark visible, the second one shows the Akatsuki hood (which isn't something he prominently wears), and the third image I'm pretty sure is edited. All in all, no. --SSJ2AJB (talk) 19:26, June 28, 2015 (UTC)

Yin–Yang Release? Edit

"It states that Naruto was able to perfectly demonstrate the power of Yin-Yang Release after obtaining Hagoromo's power. The panel this caption goes with is the one in which Naruto is trying to explain to Sakura how he created Kakashi's new left eye, meaning he used Yin-Yang Release to create it, not just Yang Release to "regenerate" it."

The Databook mentions Sasuke? Or that Hagoromo's power grants Yin-Yang Release in general? Daidarabotchi (talk) 00:04, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Databook states that those "touched by Hagoromo" have Yin-Yang Release.
WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 00:05, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Interesting... Some source? Daidarabotchi (talk) 00:10, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

The databook? :| • Seelentau 愛 00:38, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you guys! Daidarabotchi (talk) 00:45, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Animal Path? Asura Path? Human Path? NARAKA PATH?! Edit

There is NO confirmation that Sasuke has these abilities. Just because he has the Rinnegan does not mean he can use them. He doesn't even show a single trait of their use! Don't sit here and tell me 'Oh. All Rinnegan users have the ability, though!' No they do not! Does it say this in a Databook? Am I mistaken? He never uses the abilities, so they shouldn't be in his Jutsu panel. Just because Madara, Nagato, Obito, and Hagoromo show it, doesn't mean Sasuke has the ability. I've seen this same type of argument on multiple different forums, and each time, the same people are involved. And, each time, it's 'Oh. They didn't show the ability and it wasn't even in the Databook.' that is triumphant. Why the heck is this any different? It's not in the Databook. It isn't shown in the Manga. Don't assume something like this. --Username:ExyleCage ExyleCageWasHere 21:28, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Alright… Calm down. Sasuke's usage of Chibaku Tensei and Preta Path shows that he can use the Six Paths Technique.--JOA2021:31, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
I apologize. Sometimes I go overboard. But the point of this is, the Six Paths Technique was never even confirmed to be an actual Technique. It's just a reference to being able to use all 6 (7, when counting the Out Path) Paths of the Rinnegan. But Sasuke only shows the usage of 2 Paths; the Deva and the Preta. In no way does that mean he can use the other ones. Don't you think he would have made use of at least the Asura Path in his fight with Naruto? I don't know about you, but I woulda used the 4 extra arms to my advantage at some point. Hell, that really could've been a game changer. I mean, a Chidori really could've done quite a bit of damage if used with 6 arms. My point is, he used 2 Paths. If he had used 1 more, we could pretty much confirm he could use all 6. But he doesn't. Meaning they shouldn't be in his file. --User:ExyleCage ExyleCageWasHere 21:45, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
The fact that it's called the Six Paths Technique makes me think it's an actual technique. And about Sasuke's usage, well, same goes for Obito and Madara: only Nagato used all the Paths, the others – even true Rinnegan wielders – didn't. But it's ridiculous to say that Madara couldn't use the powers Nagato displayed through the former's eyes, and Obito was taught the Six Paths Technique from Madara himself. To put it simply: if one can use a Path, one has access to the Six Paths Technique, that's all.--JOA2021:50, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
When the hell did the manga ever even give it that name? Are we assuming it was its name? Or was it really given the name? And I wasn't saying Sasuke would never learn it. I was saying that he hasn't displayed the other ones. Hence why it should not be in his files. At least, not yet, that is.--User:ExyleCage ExyleCageWasHere 21:54, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
Chapter 606, page 15. Sasuke didn't learn Chibaku Tensei and Preta Path either, just pulled them out of his butt like nothing. The point here is, we don't list Sasuke as a user of the techniques, just of the Paths, as having the Rinnegan automatically grants them (heck, it's even called the "Eye of the Six Paths").--JOA2022:00, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
He didn't necessarily 'pull them out of his butt'. He saw Madara use them, didn't he?--User:ExyleCage ExyleCageWasHere 22:10, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
Doesn't matter if he hasn't shown it. The Rinnegan grants the user access to the Six Paths Technique, which consists of all the paths, including the ones you're questioning. Just how it is.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 22:13, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
Well, you just raised more questions for me, but, whatever. I guess everyone can just live with an unconfirmed technique. No skin off my bones.--User:ExyleCage--ExyleCageWasHere 22:16, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

I think every Rinnegan user has access to six paths, but not their derived techniques, as you can see we don't list Basho Tenin or Shinra Tensei to Obito, Sasuke. But we list the paths it is usual for all, even for Hagoromo it is automatically unlocked to whoever has Rinnegan.--Mecha Naruto (talk) 22:23, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

The idea that Deva, Asura, and so on are all part of a single "Six Paths Technique" is inherently flawed. Chapter 606 does not define what the "Rikudō no Jutsu" actually is any more than it explains what this is, how Yin–Yang was supposedly used to create the Zetsu, or how the black rods are supposed to be used with said Rikudō no Jutsu. It's probably the least explained chapter in the whole manga, so I've never understood why the wiki assumes that the "Rikudō no Jutsu" must refer to the various techniques used by Pain. For all we know, Madara could have simply meant he'll teach "Rikudō's jutsu" (as in Hagoromo's techniques) or any other number of things. All that said, chapter 449 confirmed that the Rinnegan grants all of the powers used by Pain, but we don't automatically list everybody with a Sharingan as a Genjutsu: Sharingan user, and that is also an inherent power of the eye.--BeyondRed (talk) 22:40, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
That's an interesting point you make, and would've been more valid had Sasuke not pulled Chibaku Tensei and Preta Path out of his ass. He performed them without any training. Turns out Genjutsu: Sharingan, while an inherent power of the eye, is still something that has to be gained through some kind of training. And regarding Chapter 449, well, you reiterated my point. These paths and the Rinnegan is still a package deal.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 22:47, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
It isn't as though you instantly and automatically obtain the six powers though. Nagato trained with Jiraiya for three years but didn't use any of the Six Paths powers until sometime after their training ended. Sure, Sasuke has the potential to use them all but it's possible he's never actually activated any of them except Deva and Preta. Just like Obito had both Mangekyō but didn't actually use Susanoo, so we don't consider him a user.--BeyondRed (talk) 22:54, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
Not really a fan of the Nagato example, because for a long time he wasn't even aware of it until he took down that Iwagakure chūnin, unless I'm remembering that wrong, but point taken. As for Sasuke, his advanced use of the Deva & Preta Paths kinda proves that it does come automatically. Unlike Nagato, he had NO prior training with it. It was brand new. None of us can answer why Sasuke didn't use the others, but we can't deny that he has access to them all, and that alone is enough to leave it be as far as these paths are concerned. It's not like we're listing the derivatives anyway, most of which anyone can easily argue Sasuke has access to. The paths are all part of the origin of the Six Paths Technique, which is bestowed to anyone wielding the Rinnegan. That's my understading anyway.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 23:13, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

I think we all agree Sasuke could use the other four powers if he really wanted to, the question is just whether they should be included in his infobox or not. Personally, I think it could simply be noted in his Rinnegan section that he can potentially use all six paths, but left out of the infoboxes to avoid cluttering them. The same goes for a lot of "parent techniques" and such that characters didn't explicitly use, but I guess that's all part of a larger discussion not suited for Sasuke's talk page.--BeyondRed (talk) 23:38, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

My issue is that I know he HAS them, but he doesn't have them. Does that make sense? What I mean is, he unlocked them with the Rinnegan, but has no idea that he did. I mean, he saw both Obito and Madara use the Deva Path, and I'm pretty sure he saw Madara use the Preta Path, so he knew he could use them. But, since he didn't see the other paths in use, he can't use them. See what I'm saying? Maybe in the new movie, he'll see the other Rinnegan users use the Techniques and learn them. But, until then, it is not going to be considered his ability to use them, as we have no proof as of yet. We're making the assumption that he can use them but he can't. Hell, if we're gonna say he can, then I might as well go say that Asura can use the Six Paths Sage Mode, because it's obvious he can. But the logic everyone is using for Sasuke, we can do this for every other character who has something related.--User:ExyleCage ExyleCageWasHere 00:08, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Except, Nagato used them all without ever seeing another Rinnegan user use them. Which proves that the paths come with all Rinnegan. Hagoromo was born with Rinnegan, he has the Six Paths Technique, Madara awakened it many years later. Madara has it, he gave it to Nagato, Nagato has it. Obito could use some of it's abilities as well, but not most of them since it drained so much of his chakra and took a huge toll on him. Sasuke awakened his right after Hagoromo gave him his chakra, Sasuke then uses two of it's abilities, and it's stated that his Rinnegan wasn't fully developed, which was probably the reason he didn't use the others. Honestly, this argument doesn't make much sense at all. All of the other original Rinnegan users have this technique, but Sasuke doesn't, just because he hasn't used them all yet? Even though he already used two of them? When his Rinnegan was brand new and not mature yet? What? Also, it isn't obvious that Asura can use Six Paths Sage Mode, since he would need Six Paths Chakra to use that, which he has never been stated to have at all. --Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 (talk) 01:31, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

How long did Nagato have his Rinnegan for? Sasuke had it for 10 seconds. Nagato had it from a young age and it took him years to find out a lot of the abilities. Your 'proof' was debunked the moment you said Nagato learned it himself. Why? Because he had it much longer than Sasuke did. In fact, besides Hagoromo, he's the single longest living user of the Rinnegan in history. Madara awakened it near his death before he switched it over to Nagato. How the hell can you say it comes with it when he had more time to learn how to use it than almost every other character in the series? It doesn't prove crap. And you literally just proved my point by saying what you did about Asura. Sasuke was never stated to have had the other 4 (5) paths. You literally just proved me right. Why the hell is everyone in the mindset that it was proven? Hell, it could have even all been given to Madara and Obito just because of how long Nagato had the eyes. The abilities literally could've all come from the eyes themselves.--User:ExyleCage ExyleCageWasHere 01:45, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

I'll just satisfy all of us by using a footnote in the Trivia section saying that, while he has the ability to use them, he doesn't show any use as of yet.--User:ExyleCageExyleCageWasHere 01:58, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Him having it longer doesn't change the fact that he later learned how to use all of it's abilities on his own instinctively. He had no training from anyone at all, meaning it already had those abilities. Sasuke hasn't been stated to have the other paths, but since he has the Rinnegan, he automatically has them. That's how the Six Paths Technique works, all Rinnegan users get those abilities, they all have demonstrated either all or some of the same abilities. There is literally no reason to believe Sasuke doesn't have them other than him not using all of it's abilities when having a newborn Rinnegan, which is ridiculous. --Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 (talk) 02:47, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Are you even reading the discussion? I said he didn't know how to use them! I never said he didn't have them! I just meant that he didn't have the ability to use them at the time because he didn't have a properly mature Rinnegan, meaning they would have taxed his body too much. I never made, nor implied, that he couldn't do it! I said he didn't have the ability as of yet! And it IS justified, NOT ridiculous, because extra mechanized arms would have been pretty damn useful at the time of the fight with both Kaguya and Naruto. 4 arms to hold the opponent down while using 2 for Chidori or some other attack would have been a really useful ability. But, again, I am more so on the side that he did have them, but there is no proof he could do so at the time. Though, now that I think about it, it could have been that he was already extremely taxed over the initial fight with Kabuto and Madara. Either way, he didn't use it. I hate to say this, but it shouldn't be in his file.--User:ExyleCageExyleCageWasHere 03:06, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Well of course there is no proof that he could use them at the time, I'm not saying that Sasuke could use them at the time. He just didn't know how too or couldn't use them all at the time because his Rinnegan was new. But he still possess the ability to use them is what I'm saying which is why he should be listed. Currently, Sasuke is in his early 30s and fully grown with his Rinnegan fully maturing and capable of even traversing dimensions. There's no doubt that he can use all of it's basic abilities now just fine but chooses not too or hasn't had a need too yet. --Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 (talk) 03:13, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Oh. Okay. Sorry about that. I thought that YOU thought I meant that Sasuke would never learn the abilities. I understand your point, now. I'm sorry for this whole thing. I'm also sorry I started to lose my temper. I really hope there are no hard feelings.--User:ExyleXageExyleCageWasHere

It's fine, I don't get upset that easily, there aren't any hard feelings and I'm not upset at all. --Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 (talk) 03:26, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

You gotta admit, though. Sasuke using the Asura and Outer Paths would be freakin awesome.--User:ExyleCageExyleCageWasHere

Uchiha Clan Edit

The only Members of the Uchiha are Sakura, Sarada and Sasuke himself, wouldnt that make him the Clan head, since Sarada is a child and Sakura only being married into the Clan??--Keeptfighting (talk) 05:29, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Technically,yes.But he hasn't really been around to manage what's left of his clan.--Vacent (talk) 13:44, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

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Why is my thing getting roll backed? I'm just trying to contribute on this wiki but its like I can't do anything. All I put was "He showed genuine affection towards her, by tapping her on her forehead (like his brother did to him as a child), before he left to explore the world to seek redemption for himself. His affection for Sakura, later led him to finally giving her a chance, and entering a relationship with her. The two eventually got married, and had a daughter together. Whats the matter with that? Its just a wiki, people should be free to contribute and its not like what I said was wrong, so whats the problem? :/ (O0o0o0ox (talk) 03:58, July 30, 2015 (UTC))

Please have a look at the history, and review your edits. I already replied to your question on your talk page. Basically, your edits are getting reverted because you are also completely messing up the pages.--NinjaSheik 04:00, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

I've seen this before. This appears to be a known bug of the visual editor, which O0o0o0ox's edits are tagged with. Try making your edit using the regular source mode editor. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:03, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

I did it with the source editor this time. So it shouldn't get roll backed. If there is still a problem, let me know why, please. (O0o0o0ox (talk) 19:58, July 30, 2015 (UTC))

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Why does it say Sasuke is smiling? "Sasuke is then seen sitting on a rooftop with Sakura, both smiling, as they watch Boruto, Sarada, and Mitsuki, hinting that his mission is finally over and he officially returns to Konoha." He isn't smiling here: http://imgur.com/BuL18Ws (AcMiillanFan (talk) 17:59, August 9, 2015 (UTC))

Was a talk section necessary? Go edit it--Vacent (talk) 18:15, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

Sword of Kusanagi Edit

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According to the Boruto movie guidebook Sasuke's "new sword" is the Kusanagi.--Vacent (talk) 12:33, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

...so? • Seelentau 愛 12:34, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
So edits need to be made.I would do it if I weren't on mobile. --Vacent (talk) 12:37, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
What edits? His sword always was a Kusanagi. • Seelentau 愛 12:41, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
Jesus....His appearance profile states he has a different sword. The "Sword of Kusanagi" page makes no mention of its current appearance.And the section that talks about Sasuke’s Kenjutsu makes no mention of the qualities this sword possess in its new form.--Vacent (talk) 12:46, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
Oh, so the article is missing information, lol. Well yes, it was always called Kusanagi, no idea why that was never added. Probably because "hurrdurr, it's nut Oruchimaro's sword". • Seelentau 愛 12:51, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
Sword of Kusanagi (Sasuke Uchiha). Unless for some reason the sword was not referred to as such in this article, it was always called such. Got it's own little article and everything.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 12:57, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
Thought so, hence my initial confusion. :x • Seelentau 愛 12:59, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

I don't understand what's so confusing.As I said about his appearance section "He is also shown wielding a new sword". For tools he has "sword" & "Sword of Kusanagi" listed, the former was added after chapter 700 because people assumed it wasn't Kusanagi. Furthermore, the section pertaining to his Kenjutsu needs editing as it doesn't describe the current appearance. Fast forward to the page actually pertaining to the sword, and there is no mention of it's current appearance there either.--Vacent (talk) 13:11, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps because you were not completely clear and just said "His new sword is Kusanagi". Not much to go on. Anywho, the appearance if the sword doesn't need to go under kenjutsu (and if the old swords appearance does, it shouldn't be there either) and I did edit it to refer to his new sword in Boruto as "a new Blade of Kusanagi". If the actual appearance (or some such) is missing someone else will have to add that as I have yet to see this film.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 13:17, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
Thanks very much :) --Vacent (talk) 13:19, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Sasuke's Dimensional Portal Technique (again) Edit

Sorry for bringing this up once again (especially to you, Seel), but with the release of the film and novel, I think it may be time to talk about this once again. Usually this wouldn't be too big of a deal, but since a few different articles post contradictory information, it's worth mentioning. On some articles, Sasuke's dimension traveling ability is considered Amenotejikara, while it is classified as an unknown technique on others. Therefore, what consensus should we come to?

Despite the confusion, I'm not bringing nothing here to help come to a decision. I've done as much research possible, and have come up with a few different solutions. First and foremost, it should be noted that most of the fan base is conflicted on what this technique could be. I've asked a few people who saw the film, and they even said that they're not exactly sure what it is. They say it looks almost like a combination of Kamui and Yomotsu Hirasaka. And while this definitely shouldn't be considered a legitimate source, here is a fan-drawing of what the technique supposedly looks like.

Most say it is definitely not Amenotejikara because it does not display any of the common traits associated with that technique. Some say that it could be Kamui because of how similar the two look, but it doesn't make sense how Sasuke would have acquired that technique. Also, Kamui is a Mangekyo Sharingan technique, and it's obvious that Sasuke is using a Rinnegan ability. Some also say it is Yomotsu Hirasaka, as the characteristics are similar, though the appearance is slightly different.

In my opinion, I believe the best course of action would be to simply consider this an unknown technique, and create a new article for this technique. The best example of when this was done in the past is Shin Uchiha's Space–Time Dōjutsu. In reality, this situation is almost exactly the same as that one- where the technique had similar elements of previous abilities, but it was not clear if they were the same. So we decided to create a new article until new information became available. If we want to wait for the film to be released so that we have an image, that is fine. But I just think this is the best course of action. What do you think?

And though it's kind of unrelated (though also related in a way since Sasuke has been traveling to Kaguya's dimensions), are we going to create a new article for Momoshiki's dimension where the final battle occurred? Unless I'm wrong, this is an entirely new dimension and not one of the original six that belonged to Kaguya.--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 05:24, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

Bump--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 15:44, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
I have taken the liberty of creating an article to show you of what I was trying to explain beforehand. Whether or not it stays this way or is deleted all together is still up for discussion, but hopefully this may become an incentive of how to handle this. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 00:40, August 23, 2015 (UTC)

Classification Edit

Granted that he is no longer a missing-nin, is everyone okay with adding the "former" tag to it? I think it would help to make the information in his (and others' infoboxes) more discernible at a glance.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 14:47, August 23, 2015 (UTC)

My impression was we do "former" no longer.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 16:03, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
I wouldn't mind really, but as Elve said, that isn't something we do anymore. Snapper's the only one who's made that known to my knowledge though.--Mina Uzushiogakure Symbol talk | contribs 17:33, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
Yeah I also thought we don't use (Former) because we are supposed to represent the entire series as a whole, like how we don't add Former-Jinchuriki to Gaara.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 21:25, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
And yet we put past things in past tense. • Seelentau 愛 21:36, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
I always write the stuff in present tense, but then within an hour somebody comes along and starts changing it to past. Like most of life's problems, this is other peoples' faults.
The writing policy can't make up its mind about it either. It says, "Articles are meant to be read not by people up to date with the latest manga," yet also says, "Events timeline on character articles should be written in the third person past tense."
Generally speaking, fiction is supposed to always be written of in present tense if ever the piece of information was "current". ~SnapperTo 16:32, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

Because the Manual of Style prefers past tense? WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 17:23, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

It's usually the manual of style that I follow but we should probably see about correcting that. On a sidenote, I was talking about character's infoboxes and not article content. I'm pretty sure there is no way to write "missing-nin" in past tense...--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 09:58, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

I was thinking.. it may be tedious and/or impossible. But what if there was 3 infoboxes and they worked on tabs, like the way the profile pics have a tab for each part of the series such as Part 1, Part 2, Epilogue? In the epilogue tab you could remove missing nin from his page. This way we can also remove abilities and other info that no longer exists or is present for each time period of the character. Sounds like a great idea to me.. but is it even possible? QuakingStar (talk) 11:26, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

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